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she and her husband. evil, evil, evil. terrorist, rotten, doesn't get any worse than that we will see you monday night right here 7 p.m. eastern. good night from washington. it good evening. i'm chris wallace in for bill o'reilly. thanks for watching ago special edition of the o'reilly factor. the war on terror. and let's get right to our top story. the investigation into the san bernadino shooting. big developments today with the fbi confirming what many have suspected about the attack. >> as of today, based on the information and the facts as we know them, we are now investigating these horrific acts as an act of terrorism. there are some telephonic connections between these two individuals, at least
one of these individuals and other subjects of our investigation. >> i'm aware of the facebook posts you are mentioning and i saw the same thing you did. we don't know what's there yet. we are still continuing to look that that. why know it was a general time line when that post was made and yes there was a pledge of of allegiance. >> we are not aware of any further threats in the u.s. at this time. >> that means the san bernadino rampage is now the single deadly youest terror attack on u.s. soil since 9/11. fbi director james comey also came out today to comment on the investigation >> this is now a federal terrorism investigation led by the fbi. the reason for that is that the investigation so far has developed indications of radicalization by the killers and of the potential inspiration by foreign terrorist organizations. so far we have no indication that these killers are part of an organized larger group or formed part of a cell.
there is no indication they are part of a network. we know this is very unsettling for the people of the united states. but what we hope you will do is not let fear become disabling but instead try to channel it into an awareness of your surroundings, to get you to it a place where you are living your life but if you see something that doesn't make sense, you say something to somebody. >> joining us now with more from los angeles, as counter terrorism specialist aaron cohen. with me here in washington jim hanson. i want to talk about this from a counter terrorism perspective, which is both of your expertise. aaron, i think the biggest question for a lot of people is how a husband and wife, living this it n. a quiet american town could become so radicalize and enormous arsenal and apparently no one knew. you say this is what you would call a modified sleeper cell. explain that sir.
>> well, it's -- modified sleeper cell is a term that i'm using to describe somebody who could potentially become radicalize. use the internet to connect with would be or radicals. they don't have to have crossed the threshold, chris and be at that place where they are ready to go commit an act of terror. when they do become radicalize like these two did. they travel overseas. they pick up that wife in saudi arabia. saudi arabia is known, chris, to have a very strong hard core islamic line when it comes to the way that they preach. you can tap into that cell and exploit that like we saw here. keep those weapons in their houses, how do you use tactical gear. put on that gear and then be
able to fire those weapons and this is all being done on the internet through secure databases and blogs. >> i want to talk about the wife. one of the big developments today was the fact that tashfeen malik the wife of syed farook apparently pledged allegiance to isis and its leader abu be a daddy in the moments before the attack was launched. what do you make of reports which don't seem to be confirmed at this point that she may have radicalized? him? >> posting potentially while he is inside reconning the site of the massacre. she posts a message posting allegiance. they are basically saying we are in the jihad. we are part of the caliphate. we are part of the global jihad movement. i think that's not uncommon. you need to look at this. it's easy for people to understand the violent jihadi. heads get cut off o.
people get slaughtered at holiday parties there is a larger civilization jihad that the muslim brother hood is perpetrating in america. they have a plan. they are using the muslim student associations that they formed. they are using mosques where they buy the land where they import the imams and front groups to go ahead and push that agenda. >> i want to pick up on that with you, jim. because you say that the mosques that farook attended, one of a couple that he attended the islamic center of riverside, have you raised questions about that and its ties to the brotherhood. what's your point? >> the muslim brotherhood through a number of front groups, one of which is the north american islamic trust has bought property and put in place most of the mosques in the united states. so they buy them. they set up front groups to go ahead and get them stawfd. they import the imams who do a lot of preaching and bring in traveling imams. this is an operation where they are setting it up to be able to preach i jihad and radical people under the
cover of religious freedom in the united states. it's a cunning plan. >> aaron, i want to pick up on a question that i think has confused or a lot of people and i think it's one of reasons that it took us a couple of days to come to the conclusion it's terror and not work place violence. usually in a terror attack and correct me if i am wrong, you want to strike in the most public way and kind of place terrorize the largest number of people. under those circumstances why strike at a county department of public health christmas party where it was raise the possibility work place violence and not terror at all? >> my answer, chris why not? soft targets are soft for a reason. you go after what you can get. al qaeda is not going to be able to outdo itself and kill thousands of people that it killed using a plane as a tactical instrument to crash into aiding about. isis knows. this isis can tap into this resource again of dormant
potentially radicalled or people who can be radicalized from dormant cells like he pointed out and attack anywhere they want. that's the problem. the reason, chris, why the fbi was very cautious in coming out but realized they had to say this was terrorism because the implications of the larger macrothreat we are facing if they don't look at it as terrorism means that we could potentially be look at a lot more terrorism. so the fbi got smart. and they went hey, let's start framing this thing the opposite way. a little more the way israel does it and start working backwards from here there are too many coincidences to not call this what it could be. i think that was a big move for the fbi. >> so are you suggesting and are running out of time here that this was political correctness or political pressure that they didn't want to call it terrorism because that has implications and also talks to the success or failure of
the obama administration. >> absolutely. i think political correctness is the major security layer that does not exist right now in this country. in israel we don't have that luxury. for every minute we waste, an innocent person is going to get killed. i think that the political correctness is crushing our ability, chris, to be able to realistically insulate this population the way it needs to be so that these type of dormant attackers who can become razzed will strike again. they realized it and they got on camera and decided they had to make a move and get on record with this. so that because they knew that this was a much larger macroproblem here and, again, of the political correctness is definitely the problem. >> let me just bring in jim hanson for a final question. what do you make of the fact that farook and his wife, apparently, smashed their cell phones, destroyed some of their digital equipment, appeared to be trying to cover their tracks? that isn't always the way terrorists act?
interesting what they might have been trying to cover up. specifically the fbi mentioned they were in contact with other folks. there may be an act of conspiracy. there may be other folks still involved. whether they were set to do attacks as well. i think they found out as hillary clinton may that you can't destroy all your digital records. i hope the fbi is doing an amazing forensic sweep. >> jim, aaron, thank you both. >> next on the o'reilly fact special with isis influence terrorism apparently here, is it time for president obama to do a 180 on his strategy to defeat the terror group? two top experts will give us their analysis moments away. centrum brings us the biggest news in multivitamin history. ( ♪ ) a moment when something so familiar becomes something so new. (impact on metal) introducing new centrum vitamints.
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isn't changing the minds of top obama administration officials. >> right here in the united states where we have had people, some of them just loseers with a keyboard who get excited by isil propaganda and decide to take off against our fellow citizens. so this is the first ever social media enemy. so it's a -- it's new. not something we can defeat bowie have to be ingenious. >> joining us now ambassador james woolsey, former director of the cia and in new york the "wall street journal's" bret stephens. bret, let me start with you. you say one of our big problems is that we call isis the islamic state when we should be calling it the islamic caliphate. what difference does that make? >> it's fundamental and it's one of these cases in which the words we use captures or limits our ability to think through a problem a state is
a political entity that has a border. you can debate where it has. it has borders. when you speak of isis. we are speaking of a state in a political region. a caliphate makes claims. makes moral claims on muslims throughout the world. now obviously only a small minority of muslims think that this self-declared caliphate has a claim on them. but it means it's geographical expanse is basically universal. it's basically worldwide. that's one of the reasons we are seeing essentially self actualized isis groups popping up not only in europe, north africa, my gearia, afghanistan, pakistan and, of course, now most infamously in san bernadino, california. >> all right. let me bring in mr. woolsey here because bret is right and we is should properly think of isis now paris and
other attacks it seems to be right as a global threat and not a regional threat. how does that effect the way we fight them? >> we have to fight them everywhere and take them out in their homeland, that's crucial. the homeland of the caliphate in syria and iraq. and they also have to be fought here and in paris and wherever they show up. we can't just kind of rock back and leave them alone. i think the caliphate in mohammed's time expanded very, very rapidly, within 100 years of his death it reached from france to today's pakistan. and that's what they want. they think they should rule everything that was once ruled by muslims. d right away. >> let's talk some specifics. the pentagon announced this week that they are going to add 200 special ops forces. special operators to raid in
both iraq and in syria as opposed to zero. i suppose that's a good number. is it anywhere close to what you think need? >> special forces people are amazing but they are not so amazing that 200 can take over a whole country effectively. >> we have got a fight here. at the once said you may not be interested in war but war is interested in you. our president is not interested in war but war is very much interested in all of us. we have got to deal with that. >> well, so, the question, of course, is how we deal with that bret. do we put thousands of u.s. ground troops back on the ground in iraq and possibly in syria? >> i think you put at least several thousand. we have 3500 troops right now in iraq. although they are mostly on a training mission. i think you probably need something in the order of so thousand. but that's a tactical question. the important point is that you need to deal a tee siive
psychological blow to isis. in 2001, bin laden said there are strong horses and there are weak horses and people are naturally attracted to the strong horse. and right now isis's great advantage is to to many jihadi minded muslims around the world it looks like the strong horse. insofar as the united states is fighting this kind of battle of containment, this battle at the edges and not winning the war it is only feeding that imagination. feeding that perception of isis being a group that has staying power. a strategy against isis has to begin with the united states destroying its cap tam in raqqa. taking back mostly and taking back ramadi and fallujah. does that -- you are not going to achieve this if you are going to fight a war on installment plan. >> let me bring in
mr. woolsey for one final question. while the threat is growing quite remarkably the ns a's bulk collection of data ran out last sunday. edward snowden the person who released this information has blood on his hands how seriously does this hurt us particularly when you are talking about homegrown threats with the possibility that a fellow like farook is in touch with people. >> safety huge amount of data for clients. they can tell you what medium you ought to be using to bring a purchase to a client's attention it, when it ought to happen. what will let you buy something when you are in a store and encourage you to exactly at the right time. the u.s. government doesn't have anything like that. the commercial world is far ahead of what snowden -- where snowden has left us
with respect it to beingably to manipulate data and understand how we might zero in on terrorist groups. >> mr. woolsey, bret, thank you both for joining us tonight. is the homegrown terror threat now a bigger danger than ever following the san bernadino massacre? new jersey governor and presidential candidate chris christie enters the no spin zone with hesitate plan to stop it that's next. i am totally blind. and sometimes i struggle to sleep at night, and stay awake during the day. this is called non-24. learn more by calling 844-824-2424. or visit your24info.com. i built my business with passion. but i keep it growing by making every dollar count.
in the campaign 2016 segment tonight, strong the homegrown terror threat. the issue took center stage in the presidential race this week following the san bernadino attack. do any of the candidates have real solutions to better protect the country? joining us now from jefferson, iowa, presidential candidate and new jersey governor chris christie. governor, during a speech to
the republican jewish coalition this week, you said is that we are in the midst, your words, of the next world war. but talk to us in practical terms, specifically, what does that mean we should be doing differently? >> well, first off, chris, what we need to do is reverse the decision that was made this past summer regarding the nsa's ability to collect metadata. we have weakened our intelligence capability through that and we need to reverse that and we need to support our intelligence community and our law enforcement community to intervene and to give them the tools they need to be able to do that that's not just actual tools. it's also giving them the support and guidance that they need to be able to do that the right way. then we need to go and put together as i you have said before, a coalition of both nato allies and of arab allies to be able to fight isis. we need to disrupt their financial networks and oil flow. those are all things we did with al qaeda. aftermath of 2001 attack and we need to get back to that. >> i want to talk to you
more specifically about the homeland. one of the things that you have been talking about is keeping all, all syrian refugees out of the country. as we saw in san bernadino, the threat from homegrown terrorists is more immediate threat than people coming into the country. if you were president and commander and chief today, what would do you to find out and to stop someone like syed farook who was american citizen? >> >> well, first thing, chris, is that no one else in this race has the experience that i do. in terms of having spent seven years in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 using the patriot act. using the fisa court. using the tools that are necessary to be able to intervene in both the fort dick six case and before attacks happened we were able to prosecute, convict and send to jail all of those terrorists and we would use those very same tools. we would make sure that we have a bolstered and strong patriot act. make sure that we are giving
the resources that the fbi, other law enforcement, cia and nsa need to be able to intervene. the only way to deal with this problem at all, home, chris is, to get as much intelligence as possible, connect the dots and try to intervene beforehand. i want to be clear. it doesn't mean that you will be able to stop every attack. i want to take issue with one thing you said in your question. i don't think the attacks in san bernadino mean that the threat from within is worse than the threat from outside. intelligence and law enforcement one way to protect the homeland. >> there is a new poll that is howted, completed just before the san bernadino attacks. i want to put this up on the screen and discuss it with you. in the cnn national survey. donald trump now leads at 36%. you are running fifth at 4% and specifically on the issue of fighting isis, trump is at 46%. you are running sixth at 4%.
my question is: what do you make of his strength and of your standing when the issue specifically is when it comes to protecting the country? >> you know, chris, we have talked about this in all the teams i have been on "fox news sunday." these national polls are just meaningless. what really matters is what is happening in iowa and new hampshire. that's what is going to define this race ultimately. we have got the iowa caucuses in less than 60 days. we have got the new hampshire primary in less 70 days. those are the polls that really matter. those are the races that really matter. as have you known and seen over the course of your career, if the results in wu or new hampshire are in any way inconsistent with what those national polls are today. those national poll also change overnight. >> >> president obama has said that one of his foreign policy principles is do stupid stuff in an interview that was published today in the atlantic you say that in pursuit of that policy, that
president obama, quote, has done a lot of stupid stuff, although you used a rougher word than that. when you say stupid stuff. >> as did the president, by the way. >> the saying inside there in the white house according to all the reports was is that they use the rougher language. i was repeating the president's rough language. the fact is this. when you promise to take action in syria, if they violate a red line, of not using chemical weapons against their people and then you don't act you diminish america's influence and credibility abroad. when you sign a ridiculous agreement with the iranians regarding nuclear weapons that the iranians are not even following at this point, that is something that's not smart to do: when you put distance between ourselves and israel as the president has done both through his actions and rhetoric, that makes the region nor unstable. and when you put distance between ourselves and our sunni arab allies because of your flirtation with iran, who still is chanting death to america and guaranteeing
that israel will be wiped off the map in 25 years that seems pretty stupid to me, too. >> governor christie, we have to leave it there. thanks so much. thanks for your time tonight. >> chris, thank you for the opportunity. it's good to see you. have a nice weekend. >> thank you. same to you. up next those new polls showing donald trump surging ahead, will his tough talk on terror strengthen his grip on the republican nomination? stay tuned. when i went on to ancestry, i just put in the name of my parents and my grandparents. and as soon as i did that, literally it was like you're getting 7, 9, 10, 15 leaves that are just popping up all over the place. yeah, it was amazing. just with a little bit of information, you can take leaps and bounds. it's an awesome experience.
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this is a fox news alert. i'm patricia shah stark. the woman who helped her husband carry out wednesday's massacre in san bernadino, california posted her allegiance to isis on facebook. now, that's according to the feds who also said today tashfeen malik and her husband syed farook tried to cover their tracks. all the evidence piling up led to this from the fbi. >> based on the information and the facts as we though them, we are now investigating these horrific acts as an act of terrorism. >> that means wednesday's attack in which 14 people were killed would be the deadliest terror attack on american soil since 9/11. the fbi, however, not discussing whether anyone affiliate with the islamic state communicated with directly with the killers who were gunned down by authorities. i'm patricia stark and now back to the o'reilly factor.
in the factor follow-up segment tonight, terrorism in the 2016 campaign. as we said, a new cnn poll completed just before the san bernadino shooting had some good news for donald trump. trump now has the support of 36% of republican voters. that's 20 points ahead of senator ted cruz, who is second at 16%. dr. ben carson 14%. followed by senator marco rubio at 12%. the remaining candidates in single digits. tough talk on terrorism like this from trump is apparently appealing to g.o.p. voters. >> you have got to define, take out their families, what does that mean? >> bill, bill, do you think the wives and the families knew exactly what was going to happen with september 11th? i do and i know they did. i think they did. and take. >> take out though? what does that mean? >> you have to do what israel was doing for a period of time. take out means that you have
to wipe out their homes where they came from. you have to absolutely wipe them out. that's the only way you are going to stop terrorism. >> joining us now with reaction from new york real clear politics reporter caitlin burns along with philip bump from "the washington post who is covering the trump campaign. caitlin, let me start with you and poll numbers, 36% of the national poll, 46% specifically comes to fighting isis is. do you think that is a reaction? trump's rise to the increased focus on terror? >> i do think. so and it actually runs counter to what many of us thought would happen in this campaign after the terrorist attacks put a more of a focus on national security and foreign policy issues. many thought that candidates like marco rubio or ted cruz or others, chris christie who have made this a focal point of their campaign would be able to rise. we haven't seen that be the case. we have seen a decrease, however, in ben carson's numbers. but donald trump has been talking this way very
aggressively. and i think his supporters are responding to that. >> let me pick up on that, philip, because a lot of the so-called experts thought, you know, if this became a focus on the commander and chief primary if you will, who is the best person to protect the country, people would be looking. voters would be looking for someone with foreign policy experience. it seems that what they are responding to is trump's tough talk. >> yeah, i think that's right. trump has been very aggressive since he started his campaign on immigration, on terrorism, and i think that that resonates. you know, he hasn't been terribly specific in what he is going to do about it just talking tough, i think it's helpful. i will say i think part of the issue with the recent polls is that decline from ben carson. ben carson dropped off a lot. i think we could have seen that coming because he wasn't viewed very strong on foreign policy. that helped cruz and helped trump. not as good as numbers on the economy. it's not as strong a poll for trump as you might suspect. >> so you think, in effect,
philip, that he is winning -- in other words, is he picking out the outside or none of the above vote that some the carson people have. >> yeah, i think that's right. carson dropoff has been mutually beneficial for trump and cruz. >> you know, as philip says, well, maybe this is going to begin to fade, caitlin, you know, i have to think that a lot of us have kept saying well, back in june or july or august, you know, it's a summer fling and the trump support will fade. we're now less than two months, considerably less than two months away from the actual voting starting at the iowa caucuses. it's not fading. trump's lead is growing. >> it's certainly not. he actually just hit his highest point in polling ever in our real clear politics polling average. we do still have two months to go. there are still voters undecided. but the time is really running out, quite frankly. and the fact is that the other -- none of these other candidates show any signs of backing out. so there isn't really going
to be a consolidation around a trump alternative. any time soon. so i project this to continue on at least through iowa and new hampshire and we will see how the other candidates address this by either staying in the race or dropping out or, you know, whether the party gets more involved here. we're not sure. >> philip, are you prepared to say at this point that donald trump can win the republican nomination? >> oh, yeah. he absolutely can win it i'm not prepared to say he is going to win it i think the points just made were very strong points. i will just add as very strong point. two thirds of the people made up their minds in iowa did so before election day. three quarters almost in new hampshire before 2012. that's a lot of last-minute decision making. trump is a anomaly, who knows what will happen. certainly a lot of people make up their minds closer to election. >> i would just point out one last thing. that is the fact when you ask various people who support various candidates
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thanks for watching this special edition of the o'reilly factor. the war on terror. i'm chris wallace in for bill o'reilly. in the unresolved problem segment tonight, how to stop terrorists from entering the u.s. the san bernadino attack is sparking calls for tougher visa and refugee restrictions after it was discovered the female shooter was allowed into this country on what's called a fiance visa in 2014. a major standoff between president obama and congressional republicans is now brewing over that issue. >> tell me if i'm misstating it. he is such a fanatic, senator, that he is willing to shut the government down to keep the flow of
joining us now from new york immigration attorney michael wilds along with mike gallagher a fox news contributor and radio talk show host. so, mr. wilds the wife in this case tashfeen malik came into f 1 visa. intends to get married near 90 days. how much screening is involved in that? >> tremendous amount of screening. thank you, chris, for having me on. there are by metrics. there are all sorts of bona fides of the legitimacy of the marriage since the 1980s and 1990s when there were russian mail order brides. takes you effectively need to get police clearances from every country ever lived in for six months. that's where we have a blind spot. somebody who visits syria or saudi arabia for a few weeks
or months who might become radicalize might slip through the cracks. almost a year later, if only there are easier ways to sneak into this country with our porous borders. >> let me bring in michael gear at this point. mike, that is a lot more screening than a lot of people coming into this country get -- we will get into that in a moment. would you end the k 1 visa. >> listen, chris, i'm not sure the american people are interested in the nuances of the k-1 visa program. you knowed government says strict and refugees. this is why there has been push back over the syrian refugee issue. americans are compassionate but that doesn't mean he are stupid. that doesn't mean you going to leave the door wide open or not ask about the identity of someone coming in the door. at the end of the day the only solution to this is a political solution.
it's why donald trump is fairing so well because of his tough talk on imgrasmghts he has done it from day one. that he was why he is enjoying such success. the american people are fed up. a president last night saying listen, we are looking at this still as a possibility of work place violence. you have got to be kidding me. this has to change. there is going to be a sea change. >> there is a much bigger hole in the system. much bigger than the refugees and bigger than k-1 that's the visa waiver in which people from a bunch of countries, dozens of countries especially europe can come into this country without any screening at all. isn't that a much bigger problem. >> up to 90 days come in on a visa waiver. our fathers were facing sedition and pirates. we seem to react to shoe bombers and underwear bombers and radicalization on the women's side of the ledger. we cannot be respond sing -- america has to be out there first and ferret out this cancer and stop it the visa waiver, i'm sorry, mike, the
visa waiver program, we have curtailed business. we have. >> i get the point and let me ask gallagher about that because there are millions of tourists who come to those countries under the visa waiver are you going to shut the door. >> you cant shut the door but there is nothing wrong with greater scrutiny. that's why senator cruz is asking for full disclosure about the path that this woman took to come into the united states. all republican candidates are asking for is scrutiny. deeper scrutiny we are not going to have open borders a number of democrats in favor of open borders. how you can scrutinize someone who comes in on k 1 visa. we have to have a mind set. seed change. has to happen politically. only way we are going to solve this thing. >> mr. wallace very quickly. 30 seconds. one of the things people say is garbage in, garbage out.
as you pointed out yourself there is no database. screening isn't going to work. >> you are right, chris. the sad thing is there isn't the seemlessness, intelligence services military or otherwise, we need to be that proactive on this issue. immigration is the fuel of our economy. the family reunification and the very reason our founding fathers came here. we can't allow these terrorists to stop us from doing this. >> gentlemen, we are going to have to leave it there mike, mr. wides thank you very much. bill o'reilly gives a lot of money to charity and as he always says at the end of the show it's because of you the viewer. please go to bill o'reilly.com. buy gifts for christmas and hanukkah. we hope everyone does that this weekend. including bill's big best seller killing reagan. when we come back, the media is invited into the san bernadino killers by their landlord. what was discovered inside? stay tuned.
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. in the personal story segment tonight, going inside the home of the san bernardino killers. in one of the most bizarre developments yet, the home's landlord gave a surprise invitation to the media today to come in and check it out. everything from islamic books of prayer to toys for the couple's 6-month-old daughter. identification cards and family photos were still inside. joining us now with more from san bernardino, fox news correspondent adam housely. adam, all of us saw in the video today, reporters crawling all over each other, taking pictures of the crime scene. i know the fbi said they have completed their investigation of the house that couple were
renting, but no evidence from the crime scene that was still needed by the investigators? >> no. they say no evidence at all. in fact i got that from not only the local folks here, who have been doing the investigation, but also the national people. they say as crazy as it looks, and they can't determine how the media covers it, but they say, listen, we went through this place with everything inch by inch. we got a lot of information out of there. we needed nothing else in there. it is normal for us to hand it back over to the homeowner when we're completely done with it. >> the evidence was clearly leading in that direction. and you're reporting the last day or so, certainly leading in that direction. i have to say, i thought it was pretty dramatic today when the lead fbi person on the investigation out there in san bernardino said, they are now the fbi is investigating this as an object of terrorism. >> yeah. you know, i could tell you from early on, chris, they thought it was an act of terrorism. they've been saying that to us o here on the ground. they don't want to worry about
the terminology from washington. they've been wanting to call it that. we got tipped off yesterday at about 7:00 p.m. that he would come out today and say that. it was supposed to be a new local press conference and they changed it to 11:00 a.m. because the national director was coming out to speak on something else. and it ended up being on this as well. and so kind of interesting how it happened, chris. but i'll tell you, i thought it was dramatic as well. even though we knew on the ground, it's been going this way from the beginning. it is very dramatic when you hear that. when you hear the guy in charge say, this is terrorism. >> has the mood there changed at all since that announcement adam in the sense that you know, if it is workplace violence, it is terrible, but somebody else's problem. if it is a terrorist cell, even those two people, there is a question, is there somebody else out there and is there another attack? how do people in the neighborhood feel? >> i don't think people here have changed the feeling. they've been tense. obviously once the two were killed in that shootout we covered a couple of days ago, once that happened, the energy did relax a little bit.
but people here knew what this was. i think a lot of people in the country knew what this was. i can tell you, there's been a debate in washington behind the scenes about what to call this. there was pressure at one point, chris, to call this workplace violence that caused terrorism, believe it or not. that that was actually part of a debate behind the scenes. so people here on the ground knew what it was. when you're here, you feel it, you know it, and you hear reporting from here on the ground and also investigators are all over this place. there is a massive presence of investigation work going on that only here in redlands but also san bernardino and really across the region. >> and our final 30 seconds, adam, i assume that this weekend now that we have a better sense of what caused this, that some of the focus will return to burying the dead. those 14 people who lost their lives. >> yeah, you know, here are amazing stories. one woman that actually kind of knows my brother in an indirect
way, the only one that survived at her table at that event. you are hearing those types of things, along with the family, remembering their loved ones as they lay them to rest. knowing this is a terrorist attack officially. obviously this community has come together like a lot of communities do but they also know they are in the middle of arguably what is the most event. as one of the fbi agents said to me, adam, there is a game-changer. >> adam, thank you. thank you for your insight. ahead, the 14 people who lost their lives in the san bernardino shooting. we'll be right back with that. ♪
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>> probably the worst day of my life. >> not knowing how to tell your kids that daddy's not coming home. >> they range in age from 26 to 60. fathers, mothers, the cousin of a new york giants player, and police officers wife who fled islamic extremism in iran. >> what's the best thing about your wife you will remember? >> everything. she was an angel. >> 27-year-old yvette's uncle said his niece is one of four sisters. >> they are very close family. very tight knit family. >> shannon johnson, aurora godoy, sierra clayborn. >> one of sierra's cleburne's pictures is covered in blue, white and red, honoring those in
the paris massacre. even as you go, your picture is out of love for victims elsewhere. >> jennifer says her husband, nicholas, worked with syed. >> i feel he was martyred. and i just know he is in a better place. >> he had this grin that made it look like he was up to something. >> when things were starting to get to you, daniel would show up and it was like -- >> he would pull some stunt and make you laugh. >> the world will suffer from having one less person like him. ♪ hallelujah >> a total of eight men and six women died in the attack. our thoughts and prayers are with their families. that's it from us tonight. thanks for watching this special edition of "the o'reilly
factor." watch fox news this sunday, broadcast in the morning and replays on fox news channel. i'm chris wallace in for bill o'reilly. please remember, the spin stops here. because as always, we're looking out for you. breaking tonight, tough new questions for the commander-in-chief as the fbi confirms the worst domestic terror attack since 9/11. on u.s. soil. and president obama remains silent. welcome to the kelly file, everyone, i'm megyn kelly. the christmas party massacre left 14 dead and 17 wounded a little more than 48 hours ago. among them, abc news obtaining the first pictures of tashfeen malik, the 27-year-old mother, who along with her husband, murdered 14 innocent people in cold blood. the same woman, we have learned, posted a pledge of allegiance to isis and its leader on a facebook a