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we may want tomorrow to be. every someday needs a plan. let's talk about your old 401(k) today. hello, i'm kimberly guilfoyle along with juan williams, eric bolling, dana perino and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." the los angeles school district shut down classes for more than 600,000 students. canceled for what officials say was a quote credible threat. we're now learning it was a bomb threat that came through an email. the same email also sent to new york city. but they quickly determined it was a hoax. fox's adam housley is live in los angeles with more on the scare. and the different responses. adam? >> kimberly, it's interesting to see what's happened here.
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two different responses in los angeles. you have the crowd that says better to be safe than sorry. and the other crowd says it's setting a bad precedent b. 10:00 is when we're told the threat came into the los angeles unified school district. we're told that authorities, federal and local were notified. early on everyone takes it as credible. because they have to, special entry light of san bernardino. early on also at least federal authorities started to see it may not be a credible threat. i'm told by the middle of the night, that it was determined it was not credible. and that was told to the superintendant. i'm told the superintendant out of a preponderance of caution had made up his mind and decide odd to go forth with shutting down the schools. in the press conferences you heard some interesting responses. in new york city you had a bit of a criticism towards los angeles. and in l.a., you had the authorities who spoke after the superintendant, who didn't say they supported the decision. they said the decision was the superintendant's solely. in any case, it has put a
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precedent in place that a lot of authorities are worried about. because now what you do you do when you have other threats? something that's going to play out as we go forward. but the good news is it's determined officially across the board. everyone will tell you it was a hoax and schools will be back in session tomorrow and they'll be walked through by 7:00 tonight. over 900 different facilities. kimberly? >> more to come on that story later. but first, the fifth gop debate a few hours away. the stakes keep getting higher for the candidates, with just seven weeks to go before iowa. and the poll positions have changed a bit this time around. a new "washington post"/abc news survey has donald trump still on top, but ted cruz is now at number two. rubio and carson are tied in third. trump is feeling confident going into tonight's face-off. >> so many people, many of them don't have a chance. you say what are you doing? just go home and relax. go home and relax.
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the other candidates should be thankful. because i'm giving them a chance to make total fools of themselves. in front of -- in front of millions of people. so we're watching television before we're hearing all of these announcers saying who's going to take on trump tonight? who's going to hit him hard? i'm saying to myself -- i say bring them on, who cares, what difference does it make? but i would say it won't be, this will not be like an evening in paradise for me. do we agree? >> do we agree? will it be trump versus everyone tonight? his rivals are giving a preview. >> now is the time for candidates to begin to show that in fact they understand how difficult and complex these challenges are and have real proposals to address them. i don't think he's met that test and others perhaps have not as well. but this is what these campaigns are about. >> he's not electable. he doesn't have serious views and as such would be eaten alive by hillary clinton this guy is national security becomes an
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issue, hillary clinton is very vulnerable. and he takes away that advantage that we have. >> so there's some previews of what to expect kind of tonight. kind of the thought process and pattern of who is going to go after who and let's see how the table calls it bolling, who does trump go after tonight? >> nobody. trump sits back and i think he's right. i doubt he's going to have a lot of attacks coming at him. the ones who aren't the top three, trump, rubio and cruz will go after probably rubio and cruz. to try to see -- there's about 30% between the two of them. >> everyone else is polling in the single digits. some of them are polling 2%, 5%, most of them. they'll go after -- it's proven no one has proven effective to go after trump. i would expect the other two will get a lot of heat and donald trump, last couple of times he sat back. rubio has had three great debates in a row. three great. you look for him to do well again. this is the things he does well
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with these stages. and ted cruz had a good one last time. >> and christie had a good debate. and is back on the main stage. >> he's got to make his presence known. >> if anybody decides to take trump on, he's a counterpuncher. dana, how do you see it tonight? who needs to do what? >> you've got to lock down the reason for your candidacy. now that people are starting to pay attention, we're getting into the seven-week timeframe so people are getting ready for the holidays this is the last gasp for politics before people go for christmas and new year. i think that's important. because imagine you're going to be gathered with friends and family. and politics is going to come up. and you're going to want to know, who does uncle bob support or aunt kathy. i think having a strong debate no matter who you are is good. i think that all of these campaigns, including in the undercard debate. they must have some sort of reason internally for them to believe that they have a chance at least somewhere in those
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early states. the national polls are terrible for everybody but donald trump and maybe a little bit for cruz and rubio. the national polls show trump way, way ahead. if you're somebody like santorum or huckabee and you know that iowa could be the place where you could get a foothold, i think maybe you figure a way to keep it going. i don't see them dropping out after this. even though they're in the undercard debate at 6:00 p.m. >> greg? >> i'm looking forward to the debate. it's a shame it's not being televised, you can't find it anywhere. it's going to be oral legend. i wouldn't bother looking for it any other cable network. keep it on fox news. we will let you know what we hear. >> what a team player. nicely done. >> you bring up the most important point. why are you there? and it's about the events, why this election is important. we saw today that you can paralyze the country with threats of terrorism. right now the left still sees terror as a sideshow. obama can barely contain his
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disgust, his cynicism for legitimate concerns. so you can't trust them. you have to trust the republican party to take the mantle as the only party that can handle national security that is your reason for being there. so i think the person that states that most persuasively and clearly, will probably win the debate. >> that's an interesting prediction. >> yes. that's my prediction. >> no, for the winner. >> just a same no one will be able to see it on tv, though. >> oral legend? >> all transmitted by oral legend. >> until midnight when i'm on live with megan kelley. >> the problem with this is, it's all about trump. all of these debates to me have been about donald trump. he's so entertaining. the piece of tape you played at the top, is unbelievable. is he real? or is that someone playing donald trump? but it's donald trump and he's saying the rest of you guys just go home.
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you know why bother. but when it comes to the attack and counterattack we're talking about, you were saying he's a great counterpuncher, without a doubt. in a class by himself. he's in trouble this week for going after cruz. not supposed to say anything about cruz, you're not a real conservative and cruz and rubio have been going after each other. that could be the main event tonight. i think those two battling out for the evangelical vote, the strong conservative vote, really is what is the key element going towards january 1. and the start of what i think is the real contest. this is kind of you know the preliminaries, if you will. this is the last debate of the year for the republicans, i think the fifth overall that's been held. what we see is with terrorism rising as a concern among republicans, and i say that very pointedly, because greg, i think this is something that the candidates put out there to stir the republican base.
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guess what, republicans are now concerned -- principally with terrorism as they're concerned. i think -- >> i think terrorists put it out there. >> juan, you're half right. republicans are concerned about terror. but so are democrats. >> not to the extent of republicans. >> that's true, but pew came out today and said brand new study for the first time since 9/11, americans, all americans feel government, their job rating on terror is going negative, 52 negative, 46% positive. very importantly all through this, though, both sides being polled, obama and terror, it's, it has a 37% approval rating. 57% disapproval rating. that's both sides. >> right, so i think what's dominating, everybody is watching these debates, by the way, these debates are getting bigger audiences than in the last two cycles, right? but let me finish -- >> you hung terror on republicans. >> let me finish the point. i think right now part of why
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these debates are capturing not young people, but older people, and republicans, is the terror angle. and they are fascinated by it and the media keeps feeding people this kind of, watch out for those terrorists. >> the media has said nothing about climate change. >> not much. >> has any republican congratulated anybody on the climate deal? >> no. >> i love, they're so offended that they didn't get congratulated. >> i think the climate deal was great. >> the fox news ratings was very good. 25-54 does care when we're doing the debate. trump has been going after ted cruz since his surge in the polls, but rush limbaugh thinks that's a very bad idea. >> my questioning about the way trump has gone after cruz, calling him a maniac, refusing to work with people in the senate, that's a huge mistake for any of you who are holding out hope that trump is a genuine conservative, genuine conservative, even in the republican field would not go
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after cruz this way. so that's, i just raise a red flag for me, made me somewhat curious. >> and itchy. meaning, that didn't sit too well with him. does that surprise you, juan? >> i was a little curious, i was thinking what's rush talking about. why is it you can't attack cruz in this way if you're donald trump? i guess that he's saying we should, you shouldn't mention it or something. i wasn't clear what did you think, eric? >> i understand what rush is saying here. if you have trump was polling 38% and cruz at 53, 53% of the vote between the two of them. why would you do that? but as donald trump said from the very beginning, if you take a shot at me, i'm going to hit you back harder. i will win that. maybe he's showing the rest of the field. >> so it's a tactical thing or not a substance thing. >> you mean donald trump? >> no, what rush is saying. >> what, not to attack -- look,
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think anyone who questions what donald trump has done or is doing has been proven wrong for three months now. >> dana, what do you think? >> i do find it curious, that cruz is the only one that gets the protection of rush limbaugh if you say you're a conservative. trump has had no problem trashing all sorts of conservatives. people who would self-describe as a conservative. i think maybe one of the things they're starting to worry, maybe trump isn't as solid a conservative as we thought. we've been talking about him for six months and they're like oh wait, maybe we like cruz. i didn't understand it i think it's been unfair to a lot of people, including most of the people on that stage. for several months. >> you know what's interesting, to tag back to something we were talking about earlier, is the rubio/cruz fighting at each other, i think benefits jeb bush and maybe even christie. they're waiting to pick up points. >> i don't see that evangelicals would go to christie or bush. do you think?
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>> it depends on what the ultimate choices are. hillary clinton? >> in the rush versus trump thing, they're actually both correct. rush is signaling something to the conservative base if trump does what he calls a genuine conservative. that's the phrase he uses. twhoos come in a trump presidency? actually rush has been right on this. trump changes his mind a lot. his, he's not ideological. and principles often get tossed if he finds that they don't work to his benefit. that's whey does. he's also, he's for ethanol. he's for eminent domain. russia said it before -- he's not a conservative. trump however is right by hitting cruz, he, he tests the reaction of the base. you know, he's basically saying if you're okay with me insulting these people. what if i go after you? you saw all the talk radio giants going after trump for this. so suddenly he crossed the line
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after making fun of a p.o.w. and making fun of a woman's face and making fun of a disabled guy. but now you've crossed the line. i say good for trump, i salute him for doing this. for going after cruz and saying you know what, no one is immune from the trump. >> that was interesting. >> what do you mean? you understand what i'm talking about? >> that's pretty much been the case for the last three or four months. since he declared. he hasn't gone after ted cruz, but he warned him. he said to cruz, don't go after me, you don't want this. >> i was commenting more on peemt who have remained silent. who have remained silent. a guy who was a p.o.w., who, who denied his own exit because he felt it was wrong. was still, you know called names. still kind of >> when you said the trump, is with thinking the rock. no one is immune from the rock. >> if your litmus test for grace is that person on your team, is that right?
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>> that's why, that's why trump went after cruz. he said this guy doesn't work well with the congress. he said he's not going to get anything done. and then limbaugh comes back and says, a real conservative wouldn't go after someone who is challenging -- >> they're both right on that. >> and -- let's see who is right at this table. >> is everyone at this table going to be right? chris christie sounding an alarm ahead of tonight's debate. he said show time is over. his call to get serious, when "the five" returns. what super poligrip does for me is it keeps the food out. before those little pieces would get in between my dentures and my gum and it was uncomfortable. just a few dabs is clinically proven to seal out more food particles.
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♪ chris christie says tonight's the night to get serious. it's like the hometown date on "the bachelor" but with too many homies. >> when i get to the oval office, i'm not going to sit in that chair, spin around and go gee whiz, isn't it great to be president. isn't this cool? it's not time to bring some amateur and put them behind that desk. it's too serious. it's too important. so it's time. it's time to to have a serious conversation over the next seven weeks. about who's going to be the next president of the you stits.
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who is ready. >> christie implies that no one was taking it seriously before. true, most people watched the debates because it's fun. and why not. its star is a bona fide celebrity. an unpredictable chap prone to shock. that's why 70% of the american public have already tuned in to parts of it it's time to listen to all the candidates, seek specifics, not slogans, persuasiveness, not platitudes. and please, candidates, can some of you go home? seriously, what if we promised awe talk show? the previous debates have been informative but misleading. we think we're choosing the leader. but what chooses a leader are events. like paris and san bernardino. it's why president obama evaporated like a pud until a florida parking lot. a man out of time for the world has moved on to an adult era and he's alone. a sullen windsock. his legacy gone limp. events call for a serious person who gets national security and terror. don't look to the dems, for
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progressives see their world as a mall. each store an identity or grievance that exists independently. if one store closes, another one will open it. it can go on forever. conservatives see life as a skyscraper. the base of the tower is security. and all other issues or floors rely on that remove the base and the tower collapses. we don't need another one of those. >> so dana, christie is saying the casual dating is over. it's time to give out a rose for the women at home. >> we've gone on from dating, i said they're trying on the dresses. >> i think that -- >> answer the question you want to answer. >> i had an idea. one of the things i think trump can do tonight. christie, what he's saying you can't send an amateur into the oval office, i think he is suggesting that the amateur would be donald trump donald trump. i don't know who else he would
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be -- maybe ben carson. maybe fiorina. he is basically saying you have to have someone who is tried and tested and true. you cannot win this primary or election by a complete anti-establishment vote. at some point if you are the anti-establishment candidate, you have to appeal to some people who would be called establishment so can you try to win. i think something trump could do tonight would be something that cruz could not do with confidence, i don't think is to say to all republicans out there that if you're running for office and you're in the down ticket if you're running for house, senate, state house, i will help you. and try to, not just show like an olive branch, but to say i am committing to you right now that i am running for president and i will try to help you in the office. i don't know if he would want to do that. i think it would be pretty effective and it would be hurtful to somebody like ted cruz who is seen by many of the establishment candidates that ran in 2014 to have been hurt by him. >> interesting.
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>> you know eric this new fox poll out i believe it's fox news, never can tell these days, so many polls, national security and terrorism ranks as the number one concern, 41%. there it is up there. national security and terrorism. is this another area where trump could probably hit cruz, because cruz you know, was against the nsa programs, whereas trump is for every security -- >> i think he would want to -- i think chris christie will jump on board with donald trump in that respect as well. and that might put ted cruz on a bit of an island. there was a "60 minutes" piece a couple of weeks ago about a russian double agent. he came over here, ended up wanting to stay here. he fell in love, had a family here. he said i was trying to figure out a way to make the russians not want to kill me either here or if i go back. i decided to tell them i had aids. the thing about russia in the '80s. it was in the '80s. russia in the '80s, they're a
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frayed of two things they're afraid of aids and ronald reagan. the point being, remember ronald reagan, he was an untested entity. i know he was a governor of california. there was a perception around the world of don't mess with this guy. this guy will kill us if you tick him off enough. donald trump needs to continue that kind of rhetoric. needs to keep every other leader in the world not knowing whether or not he's going to drop the bomb on them, bomb the f out of them or what. >> so you compare trump to aids? >> no to reagan. >> well i want to make sure for the audience that you're comparing trump -- to a president and not to a deadly disease. juan, thoughts? >> well you know, the only guy who says that he has real experience in dealing with the preoccupation of terrorism, is chris christie. he says that as the governor of new jersey he actually had to deal with it he's not just going after trump and carson, he's
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also going after rubio. he's going after cruz, he's going after people like rand paul. egoing after all of those first-term senators, saying you guys talk a game. but i've been there. if you really care about battling terrorism. i'm the guy who can show you where i have experience. his whole campaign at this point rests on new hampshire. he's doing pretty well there. look for him to be the surprise tonight. >> look at this, though. it's all about who's going to have the best voice as it relates to foreign policy and national security. especially with schools getting shut down today. that's fresh on everybody's mind. children are in play, the whole thing. whoever can articulate that message and i hate to say it, great sound bites and great moments, look for good debaters, like rubio and cruz. trump if he gets an opportunity. anybody is at game tonight to be able to do that. whether it's jeb, christie, et cetera. this is one of the pivotal points so far in this campaign and who's going to be able to stand out from the rest.
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carson has to have a great night, too. this is the one thing they were worried about with him. >> you're right. so where are the democratic candidates? >> their next debate is buried on a saturday. what's wrong with a saturday? the hunt for hilary, ahead. the flu virus.
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children and adolescents in particular may be at an increased risk of seizures, confusion, or abnormal behavior. the most common side effects are mild to moderate nausea and vomiting. anti-flu? go antiviral with tamiflu. the gop race is dominated the headlines and if you've been wondering what happened to the democratic candidates, including hillary clinton, you aren't alone. so is stephen colbert. >> even though she is the presumptive democratic nominee, these days she's harder to find than her emails, their next debate is on cnn, december 19th, the saturday before christmas, otherwise known as the tv scheduling fant am zone. the only ones watching will be people stranded at the airport, weeping in their panda express. >> as long as the media isn't talking about her emails, hillary clinton must be a happy
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camper with this scant coverage. the secretary did just resurface with a speech in minneapolis to showcase her counterterror strategy. listen. >> we can't afford another major ground war in the middle east. that's exactly what isis wants from us. it will require more u.s. and allied air power. and a broader tart set for strikes by planes and drones with proper safeguards. it will require special operations units to advise and train local forces, and conduct key counterterrorism missions. what it will not require is tens of thousands of american combat troops. that is not the right action for us to take in this situation. >> but with tonight's big republican debate, that speech won't be what everyone is talking about tomorrow. dana, did you hear her say we can't basically get rid of isis,
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because that's what they really want us to do. >> that's what isis really wants, i'm so tired of that. i don't care what isis wants. i care what we want. think that's what american people are looking for. okay like what are you going to do about it you were secretary of state, what's your record and now president obama has what did you say 37% approval rating on fighting terror. that's not good. so what are you going to do, hillary clinton, that would be different from what barack obama would do? democrats are very smart. they have hid all of these debates, times when nobody is going to see them. but it kind of doesn't matter because she's going to be the nominee. greg, saturday night. >> like doing homework on your vacation or bringing work to the beach. let's, we've got, we have a hypocrisy alert here. we have the five on fox news asking where's the hillary coverage. that's like going to a monastery and asking where the women are. we are the cable news chefs serving up the menu and the menu
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is all you can eat trump, there's trump stew, there's trump soup, there's trump stir fry. and it's dangerous, we're living in a time where terror is being married to technology. you have a person who cannot handle her email. she treats her email like coupons for a nail salon. plus her chief aide is married to anthony wiener. >> i would be willing to bet if the dnc gave fox news a democrat debate, we would air it and it wouldn't be on a saturday night. >> it would rate. >> i've made this case. but you know, they don't like fox. what are you going to say? i will say -- >> they're foxists. >> but fox as you were pointing out is oftentimes very hocstile. >> no -- >> i did not say that juan put words in my mouth. >> but hillary's position in
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this speech in minneapolis, two things to say. one is the setting, minneapolis, lots of somalis and lots of concern about home-grown terrorism. she picks minneapolis. second thing to say is she is more hawkish than obama, but it not by you know, it's an interesting mix. she wants to be very clear to the general election audience that if you have concerns that eric was talking about in the polls, where you know, 37% i think is approval for obama -- >> 37% approval that she gives you reason to say she's tougher than obama and i can like her and she's going to do more. but what is the difference? it's not troops on the ground. it's a little bit more in terms of the know fly zone. >> look that way because kimberly is going to respond. >> what about accomplishments, why would we trust her with anything? she cannot function and operate the device. she's done a better job so far for being the spokesperson for what isis wants than what the american people need. next, a bomb scare in los angeles kept more than 64,000
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kids home from school today -- 64,000. city officials are defending the shutdown. did they go too far?
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everything is okay in los angeles, but today there was a big scare that led to the shutdown of all the city's public schools. more than half a million students were told to stay home after a school board member received a threat by email. los angeles's superintendant doesn't regret the decision saying it was made out of an abundance of caution, but new york's police chief said it was an overreaction. >> we cannot allow ourselves to raise levels of fear, certainly raise levels of awareness. this is not a credible threat and not one that requires any action on our part similar to what my understanding is, the school system in los angeles
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took. >> the chief of the lapd had this to say to him and others. >> i would say this to people that are critical -- it is very easy in hindsight to criticize a decision based on results that the decider could never have known. it's also very easy to criticize a decision when you have no responsibility for the outcome of that decision. >> all right if i put myself in his shoes, eric, i don't know what i would have done. i can understand the abundance of caution, but-day see bratton's point as well. >> i know this didn't happen, but it doesn't seem like it did, based on all the back and forth. but if i were the lapd or the police chief or the superintendant, i would have gotten on the phone with the major cities of the country saying hey did you get anything like this? if t feels like l.a. got it. they didn't call new york. new york said we're not going to act on it. this apparently happened last night. they received the initial threat. and then they just went ahead and made the decision on their
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own, independent of anyone else. in what's the congresswoman from california who was on tv today. saw the email said these are supposed to be islamic fundamentalists, they had a small "a" for allah. and referenced a sexual body part and said there were 32 accomplices. a lot of loose ends to the email. the threat, i think they would have asked other cities what they were doing before they locked down education. >> san bernardino in my experience, is 60 miles from l.a., i think there's a higher level of anxiety maybe right now in officials in that area. and the second thing to say is, you know, the whole country is at the moment given what's happened recently in paris and san bernardino, a little anxious, and i think bratton was exactly right. we've hardened targets. >> bratton is right or l.a. is
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right? >> i understand. i think they both made the right decision if it was up to me, i don't react to hysteria. i think the hysteria is overblown. >> what do you think, kimberly? >> i think that l.a. shut it down because of threats and what they had uncovered on their account. i think that gave some credence to it and also there's a history of al qaeda targeting schools. so some of the terror connections in the nexus that goes back to the attack that happened in san bernardino. would you hate to be wrong on this one. >> i agree. what do you think? >> culprit is trigonometry. you know there was a tough test somewhere. and the guy said if we make a wide threat they can't bin it on our school. if you played it safe, you get criticized. if you don't play it safe you get criticized, if something were to happen. >> catch-22. >> in my view you got to play it safe and save lives rather than not shut it down and watch people die.
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this raises another point about terror. terror require as very small investment. preventing terror and dealing with terror is a life-long commitment. all it takes is an email to create 700,000 people basically having to change their lives. that's the reality. >> not only that, but kimberly, they're going to do a sweep of the 900 schools. how much personnel does that take? >> over time, cost, the whole thing. you add it up and it will be big bucks. i think because they didn't look at this in a vacuum. they looked at it in light of what happened with san bernardino. >> so do we think new york was negligent? >> no, the same exact threat. the same email. they made i think the right decision. they saw the flaws in the email that you described earlier. >> how can one be right and one be wrong? >> because of san bernardino. because of tashfeen malik and syed farook had specifically photographed a rialto high school in san bernardino. and you couple that with yes,
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bad grammar on this other email. and they say, well, you know what, there might be more legs to this one. new york didn't have the same -- >> can i just add, the scary part is this could all be a test. >> it could be a test. >> this is what bratton said. bratton said this was intended to scare people. and it's a demonstration of the power that we give the terrorists if we react to everyone in this way. i think at some point you have to take responsibility and clearly bratton and the other officials in new york would have had to pay the price if anything had happened. they made a tough call. >> we have to trust the local officials. ahead we return to tonight's gop debate in vegas. we go to predictions. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is here. lease the 2015 gs350 with complimentary navigation
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some final thoughts ahead of tonight's fifth gop debate. what we like to hear as well as our predictions. so let's begin with miss kimberly guilfoyle. >> like the strong and a strong leader. i want to hear tonight from somebody who has real vision for the country and shows strength and specifics as it relates to national security. that has a real answer and
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resolve to permanently put isis out of business. i want to hear that tonight. i'm looking for it. >> eric, this is the first debate after california, after paris and also after donald trump said bar all muslims, what do you think. is that going to come up? >> i would assume that that will come up. >> raise your hand. >> wants to bar all muslims. the very interesting thing is that you guys nailed this. i thought this was election was going to be jobs and the economy. that 23% number pales in comparison to the 40% national security and terror that you guys said was going to be the big issue in the election and the debate. >> wish it wasn't so. >> it's true, and you are so right about this being the last big debate before people go home and spend sometime and talk about politics, wow. this is big, big. >> dana, i was looking at some of the numbers, trump is plus 6 since november.
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now up to 38 in the "washington post" poll. cruz is plus 7, up to 15. rubio is plus 1. he's up to 12. but ben carson is down 10 and looks like you know, in the land of no return. >> it does. and so this is what i would like to see. i want someone to take a risk, right? no risk new york city reward. so -- >> did you just come up with that? >> i say it all the time. like before you, would prep a politician, or the president, for an interview, they say it's a big one. if you don't risk doing an interview like this high profile. you're not going to get any possible reward. what i would say with the candidates is no talking points, strip off the masks, stop listening to your consultants, go into a room by yourself and say how would i want to explain this to my best friend or my neighbor, and talk to us like that, rather than to your consultants or to your fundraisers. just like be yourself. i think authenticity can be spotted a mile away and if
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you're inauthentic. that's something that's a huge red flag for me and i would write you off before christmas. >> i mentioned carsen in a slide. jeb bush is down there percolating at a very low level. some people say you got to get tough. you got to get hard, you got to volume. the whole idea is break out now. >> you know what i say, juan? i say it all the time. i say go big or go home. >> did you just make that up? >> yeah, it's actually on a shirt. >> how do you go big? >> broken up for sure. i think you're right. there's some people have to break out and if you're not going to break out then you should go home. like if you do it now -- >> you have to look in the mirror and maybe it's time, is this helpful? >> it's helpful if you're trying
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it's time for one more thing, greg, yeah? >> yeah, time for one more thing. greg's secrets to happiness. watching the debate can be stressful. there's research showing the
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best way to reduce stress, to pet a small animal like a dog or cat n. this case, down under as they call it, this kangaroo found his relaxation in the soft belly of a cat. >> eww! is it licking it? is it alive? >> yeah, it's alive. a very friendly, intimate relationship we are watching. i think we are intruding on it. i told you this would happen after gay marmarriage. cats and kangaroos. enough. >> i don't know about that one. i'm on the fence about that. i have a better one. let's show this guy some love. the shirtless wonder. over 1 million views of this guy. take a look at this. this is ethan reno, the shirtless wonder. the chicago reporter is interviewing him. look at this hotty. >> i love running in the rain. i'm also single, so --
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>> he got 900 friend requests, all the ladies, you know, want to go out with him. interestingly, my producer, sean o'rourke picked this saying awww, nothing better than a hundred ki, shirtless jogger making a pitch. >> i don't know if i want to be call add viral hit. >> as long as you are not contagious. eric? >> ps 169 in new york where the principal decided there would be no more christmas, a heritage festival instead of thanksgiving and the pledge is not said. today, she reversing that. the pledge was said over the loud speaker. the principal said i apologize for any confusion this may have caused. >> yeah! >> end of story. >> why? cool. >> i had some sad news.
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foundation in response of liz's great life. >> how did you know her? >> she was my best friend in san diego. >> god bless. >> this christmas season is hard. >> the importance of early detection, anything you can do. >> well, so, last night, i'm watching the football game. in the midst of the game, guess what happened? look at this. this is unbelievable to me. 69-year-old tom crunched by his own quarterback and guess what? that 69-year-old guy, he got right back up. that's tough, folks. in fact, one of his players says he practiced what he preaches in the locker room, be resilient, get your butt back up. >> in the locker room he says
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that? >> giants won and are tied. >> what about -- >> dvr us so you never miss the five. fears of terrorism mean school's out for more than a half million students in the nation's second largest district. was it is hoax, a test? what authorities are saying about the threat and the reaction to it. this is "special report." good evening and welcome to washington. i'm bret baier. we begin in los angeles with 640,000 students had an unscheduled and very unsettling day off. an e-mailed bomb threat with details of a large scale attack prompted an immediate cancellation of all classes and buses on their way to pick up youngsters turned around and headed back to


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