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the first debate from here in des moines before the iowa caucuses on monday starts right now. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ good evening, everyone. it is time to get started. it is 7:00 p.m. on the east coast, 6:00 p.m. here in des moines, iowa. and we welcome you to the seventh republican debate of the 2016 campaign. i'm martha mccallum. good evening, i'll bill hemmer, we are live at the iowa events center in downtown des moines. in only four days iowa officially kicks off the race for the white house. >> tonight, we are partnering with google for an exclusive second screen experience. search fox news debate on google any time tonight to access exclusive content. can you see the campaigns
respond to the debate in realtime and can you weigh in by voting on the topics that's being discussed. just go to google.com, open the google search app. and type in fox news debate. >> tonight, you are going to hear from the candidates. and four of them are on stage right now. let's introduce them. business woman and former ceo of hewlett packard, carlie fiorina. [ applause ] >> former arkansas governor mike huckabee. [cheers and applause] >> also with us tonight, two-time senator from pennsylvania rick santorum. [cheers and applause] >> and former virginia governor jim gilmore. [cheers and applause] >> in debate, the first debate of the evening, will last one hour. each candidate will have one minute to answer each question. if you run out of time, you will hear this.
[bell] >> never changes. so here we go. 97 hours before iowa chooses, in fact, the last two winners in this state are on this stage tonight. governor huckabee, in 2008 you won by 9 points here. but this time your support seems to be going to senator ted cruz and donald trump. why, governor, is your message not working this time? >> i don't think it's that the message isn't working. i think the message isn't getting out because the message that i have this time, bill, is exactly what i said eight years ago a. i talked about how people standing on their feet on factory floors. people who lift heavy things, who sweat through their clothes are getting gut-punched. they are not having a fair shake in this economy. i talked about that eight years ago. and i'm talking about it now. i talked about the importance of preserving life. i have not just saying that we're going to defund planned parenthood but let's do something bolder. let's get rid of abortion
once and for all by applying the fifth and 14th amendment to every person from conception. because that means that we recognize that no person can be deprived of life or liberty, unless they have due process. and that's not happening in our country. and i believe and continue to practice that we need the fair tax to revive our economy, to make it so that people are able to be rewarded for their work ratherbu [ applause ] >> governor, thank you. senator santorum, four short years ago, you won iowa. you beat mitt romney. pretty much shocked the country. but just the other day you talked about doing what is in the greater good for your campaign. is monday night your last stand? >> you know, listening to what your network was talking about prior to this race, this debate, reminded me of the coverage that many on this floor are getting. this debate was called the under card debate.
the under card debate. it wasn't advertised significantly. in fact, the entire hour leadup to this there was no conversation about any of the four people on this debate stage. and that is the chronic situation. in fact, they put a poll up from "wall street journal," nbc news, they listed thecandid. they failed to mention -- i wasn't listed i got zero. why? because the nbc/"wall street journal" poll never includes my name on the list. this is what the media has been doing over the past year in trying to segregate and take iowans out of the process. what iowans deserves. [cheers and applause] >> is to hear from every candidate on an equal footing. had they applied the same rules four years ago i would have been in the undercard debate. the guy who won the iowa caucuses would have been in the undercard debate, not talked about. [bell] >> we have been talking about an entertainer that may have been trying to run. ladies and gentlemen, you have a chance on monday to put the record straight
about who you want, not who will entertain you but who will fight for what you believe in. i hope you do it. >> senator, do you want a name -- senator, do you want to name that entertainer you are referring to? >> well, look, the entire lead-up to this debate was talking about whether donald trump is going to show up for the next debate. the people of iowa, who i know pretty darn well, care a lot about the issues. they care about who is going to be the leader of the free world. who is going to be able to take on isis and take on iran and make sure that we're safe. they're concerned about whether. [ applause ] >> their agriculture programs. renewable fuel. [bell] >> is going to be maintained. we are not hearing any of those things. we are hearing about whether someone is going to show up for the next debate or not. >> quickly then, after this debate you mentioned donald trump's name. immediately going to event across town here in des moines as a guest of donald trump. >> yeah, i am. >> are you laying the groundwork for maybe your
future, perhaps an endorsement of mr. trump? >> you know, this, again, more of the politics of trying to get people to throw stuff at each other. i'm not going to throw mud at anybody on this stage tonight. i'm not going to throw mud at anybody on the stage later. [ applause ] >> i'm not going to attack donald trump. what i'm -- what mike huckabee and i were asked to come to an event where money was going to be raise to do help our veterans. you know, i thought about it. [ applause ] >> i said well, wait a minute, now, if there were no political considerations and i had some time because i'm not doing anything at 9:00cxçççç tonight. [ laughter ] >> and so if i had some time, would i go. [bell] >> if i could help raise money for veterans? and the answer was yes, i would. and so i'm going. >> thank you, senator. one moment. get to you in a moment, governor huckabee. >> so it will come as no surprise that there is an idea there that there is a civil war brewing within the g.o.p. over the meaning of conservative and the question of who is
electable. there are some in the g.o.p. who are so outraged by trump and cruz that they say they would actually rather have hillary clinton in the white house. [crowd booing] >> so, carlie thorn that, i ask -- fiorina, i ask you. this is your party in crisis? >> when i started my campaign on may 4th of last year, i was 17 out of 16 candidates. nobody polled my name. nobody had ever heard"w[mgoççq%. less than 4% of you had ever heard of me. the people of iowa showed up and they are still showing up. hundreds and hundreds of them at every event. i have done over 150 events in the state of iowa and i have 15 more coming up. [ applause ] >> i start there because someone asked me about midway through my campaign what's the biggest surprise to you on the campaign trail? and i will tell you what the biggest surprise is, the catch. the chasm, what the people
of iowa and the people of this nation talk about. guess what, martha. guess what, the people of they never ask me about the polls. they never ask me about the other candidates. what they ask me about is carlie, tell us why zero based budgeting is so important. tell us why you are a leader who is going to produce results. tell us how you are going to defeat isis. tell us how we are going to replace obamacare. put my faith every single time not in the pundits, not in the polls. most definitely not in the national media i'm going to put my faith in the common sense and good judgment of the voters of iowa. last time i looked, you hadn't started voting yet. so, on monday night, i hope you will stand with me, fight with me, caucus for me. because. [bell] >> citizens, this is why we have to take our government back. the establishment thinks it ownsuthis country. the pundit thinks it owns this country. the media thinks it owns this country.
we were intended to be a citizen government. the game is rigged. you have the power. take our country back. >> thank9you. [cheers and applause] >> governor gilmore? >> as of one week ago, you had not held a single campaign event here in the state of iowa. as of one week ago, in fact, you were the only one in the republican field who had not made a campaign visit to this state. you know how it works here. you know how it's worked over time. why should anyone caucus for you on monday night? >> well, first of all, bill, let me say one thing, i have been in iowa. but this is not the place where i'm choosing to begin my campaign. i am beginning my campaign in new hampshire, and i decided to do that based upon the process that is in place in iowa and the primary that's in place in new hampshire. but never mind that i want to return to something is, i'm the only veteran, bill and martha in this race. i'm not going to any donald trump event over across town on some sort of faux veteran sort of issue.
i'm going to speak to you tonight about the issue that really confronts veterans. i'm going to talk to you about the concerns that they have got with the veterans administration. theñ lousy appeals process that they have got. the fact that sometimes they get good service at the v.a. and sometimes they don't and the fact that protest traumatic stress syndrome is not properly recognized. that psychology positions are unavailable in the veterans administration. i will say this to you, as the only veteran in this race, when i become president of the united states, the veterans are going to be treated with respect and competently in success in the veterans administration in this country. [cheers and applause] >> governor huckabee, word is that new york mayor michael bloomberg is considering getting into this race. if he does, that would make rkers, including sanders, clinton, and trump. one candidate in this race has criticized so-called new york values. so, tell me, in your opinion, are new york values different than iowa values?
>> you know, i would leave that to other people. i'm not going to get into an argument with all the new yorkers because there is a lot of them. [ laughter ] this much i will tell you. i wish that some of those new yorkers had funded as much of my campaign as they did the corporately funded candidates, but they didn't. and to be honest with you, when i say i wish they had, i'm glad they didn't. i'm not a new york funded campaign. i'm not bank rolled by the corporatists, i'm not bank rolledábç by goldman sachs and bank and aig and all the big brokerage houses and the billionaires. i'm sponsored by people like thomas, a part-time uber driver in pennsylvania who sent me $25 this week. he is between jobs. he is driving an uberhçla$ç car. but he believed in what i'm talking about enough that even on a limited, part-time income, he sent me $25 to help in my campaign. i'll stand with the thomas
of the world any day. i will leave all the discussion of the big financiers to other candidates. but there is only a few of us in the entire republican process who are not corporately funded by the same group -- and let me know why things never change depending on whether democrats or republicans are in power and why republicans in iowa and the rest of the country are so frustrated? the reason is because if you follow the money, the same folks who finance the democrats finance the republicans and no matter ads, they get the same results. ifif you want a different result, i'mr(3a-no available. [cheers and applause] >> thank you, governor. >> senator santorum, according to google, the paris terror attacks were the largest story that was searched in 2015. with nearly 1 billion searches of that story worldwide. there have been at 18 terror
attacks so far this year in just january alone in 2016 and it will likely, as we all know, get worse. but what can an american president do to stop these terrifying killings? >> thank you for the question, martha. we have to have an honest discussion with the american people about the nature of the threat thatvó we confront. this president says that isis has nothing to do with islam and as a result has put together a strategy that doesn't take care of what the reality is, which is isis has established a caliphate. a caliphate is like a kingdom ruled by -- a caliphate is ruled by a kay live, the;0 fz kingdom is rule ood by a king. a caliphate is a religious title and is both a religious call to help this state as well to make the state stronger. the reality is that isis has established a caliphate and
is using that to attract people around the globe to follow them as leaders of the sunni world. you say how do we stop them from following them? to be a legitimate caliphate, you have to state under sharia a law. if you don't do that, you cannot call for that support. the answer is we must take their land and make them de. [bell] >> illegitimate in the eyes of the muslim world. so i would put troops on the ground and take the land to its rightful ownership in iraq. that would be legitimizing. >> miss fiorina same topic. the president says many are exsal gear rating the threat to isis it to quote him "this is not world war iii and they do not pose a threat to our national existence." does he have a point? does isis threaten our ability to survive as a nation? >> let me tell you this, news flash, president obama, news flash, mrs. clinton,
climate change is not our most pressing national security threat. [cheers and applause] actually, actually, it is isis followedfmç closely by iran and those two things are linked so that when our president cozies up to iran, all of our allies in the middle east, who are ready to help us, defeat isis, wonder whose side we are on and the truth is under this president we are on iran's side, not our allies who would help us defeat isis. you know, one of the things we have to start with is understanding that we must stand up to adversaries. so hillary clinton famously asked what difference does it make how four americans died in benghazi. this is the difference it makes, mrs. clinton. when terrorists purposefully attack an american embassy and kill four americans, including an ambassador, and the next morning you get up and you lie about a videotape that doesn't
represent our values instead of saying the united states of america was purposely attacked by terrorists and we will seek retribution then you are saying to every adversary. [bell] and every terrorist on the planet it's open season. that is, mrs. clinton, what difference it makes. [cheers and applause] >> thank you. >> governor huckabee, you have said when it comes to isis, quote. if russia is willing to help us kill these savages then on this they are with us and not against us. but we have seen putin's quote,:÷ç unquote, help in crimea and in ukraine. and this week the u.k. implicated him in the poisoning death of one of his rivals. so are you foolish to ever think we can work with vladimir putin. >> i don't trust him. i never said i trusted him. but if somebody is willing to take a shot at the people we are taking shots at, i'm more than willing to let them use their own bullets to do it. let's be very clear about how we take out isis and i think rick santorum is
exactly right. you take away their land. one of the things we have to do is comprehensive strategy to get isis. take away their access to social media platforms. they are using the same social media platforms to recruit, to train, and to direct people as i use to see pictures of my grand kids. that's ridiculous. the second thing, go after them financially. wage war with them. make it so noble can do commerce withp6kfyz isis. not a nickel of transfer. any company, any country, that even gets close to dealing with them, absolutely put sanctions on them. make them pay. and finally you have got to go after them militarily. that means we send the land, the sea, the air forces, the a-10 wart hogs dropping order ordnances and tank and we obliterate them. we have to understand they are a force that's getting bigger and with any kind of cancer you don't contain it, you eradicate it. that's how we have to fight isis is, comprehensively. that's what i would suggest we do.
[ applause ] >> thank you. >> governor gilmore,5f3 sometime this spring 34 more detainees are cleared from release from gitmo. if you were president, as you say, this president wants to close it. as president if gitmo were closed and enemy combatant were found and captured in the field of syria or iraq or libya and you don't have gitmo, where would you put them? >> first of all, bill, i think gitmo ought to remain open. i also want to point out to you is what you are saying is the exact right topic to all these other candidates. that's this international challenge that we are facing, the international war that america is in, even to this day. and i'm a candidate who is best qualified to deal with this issue. a degree in foreign policy in rugs area of studies. i'm the only united states army war in europe. the during the 9/11 attack. chairman on the commission of homeland security for the united states for five years. this is what i will do.
if i become the president, i'm going to rebuild the united states military. we're going to take the sequester off the defense budget. give the navy the ships it needs. refit the united states army. refit the united states marine corps. guerrilla war, we need to recognize our special forces, our intelligence community, and the people that we need in order to really protect us and finally, this war of ideas, we must win this. we must say to the world we will win the international guerrilla war. >> governor, thank you for that. [ applause ] >> coming up, we have more on the top issues in this campaign and you can engage in tonight's conversation right from home. go to google.com, search fox news debate. you can vote on which candidate you think is winning so far in tonight's results after the debate is over. we are back in a moment live from the iowa events center in des moines.
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welcome back to des moines. this is debate number one on what will be a long night here. let's get back to the questions with martha. >> all right. governor huckabee, government grows and grows, in fact, neighborhoods in and around the beltway get richer and richer all the time while our manufacturing towns are disappearing. still, republicans from reagan to bush have vow to do shrink the size of government but it never works. is this presidency, any presidency simply too small a david to slay the goliath of government? >> no, i don't thinkhbx70÷ it's that it's impossible. but we're not going to do it
by doing the same things we have been doing for all these many years. we have lost 5 million manufacturing jobs just since the year 2000. the other day i was in newton, iowa, used to be a vibrant place where maytag washers and dryerers built went out of business in 2007. all those jobs went to mexico. all those people lost their jobs. there was a guy in my forum that day who lost his job. he still has .ou employment that got anywhere near the job that he had. let me ask you. how many people do you think living around the beltway know a guy like that, care about a guy like that? not many. it's because there are six of the 10 richest counties in america that surround washington, d.c. people who live in the bubbles of the high finance world of new york, the government world of washington, the entertainment world of hollywood don't have a clue about how hard people out here in iowa are working every single day. i believe one of the values of campaigning in iowa, you can't win unless you go out
and talk farmers and housewives and welders and unemployed truck drivers. and i would hate. [bell] to think that a president could become president who never met the people who have to struggle to make a living and put food on the table. [cheers and applause] >> thank you, governor. >> carly fiorina, you said you can get the tax code down to three simple short pages. lobbyist whose have twisted the arms of member of congress come sit with you in the oval office and say madam president, sorry, i cannot be with you on this one. you may understand what previous presidents have gone through. no? >> you know, we have a professional, political class of both parties. we have been talking about the same issues for election cycle after election cycle. yeah, government is big and out of control and the only way to get it under control is to control the money. and the only way to control the money is to ask the federal government to budget the way you do, to examine
every dollar, to cut anypí dollar to spend -- to move any dollar. the fancy word for that is zero based budgeting. i call it common sense. that three page tax code i talk about all the time here in iowa. it's been around for 20 years. but politicians don't want to talk about it you bet the lobbyists don't want to talk about it in fact, nobody wants to vote on a three page tax code or zero based budgeting although they have both been around for a long time. you know why? because if you get those two things done you are goring everybody's ox. you are taking the political establishment apart. you are actually challenging the status quo. which is what we need in the oval office. do you know who i am going to count on the citizens of this great nation because you have extraordinary power. but when you do not use it. [bell] you are losing it. take out your smart phone, folks, the people of iowa know what i'm talking about. if you agree with me that three page tax code needs to be passed. lobbyists are are not going to to be in my office. if you agree we need zero based press one for yes,
ladies and gentlemen. 2 for no. citizens, we must take our country back. >> let me stay with you ms. fiorina. you said you would shrink the federal government by 30% in the next two years and those jobs will not be filled and you dual it through retirement. your critics would argued that's when you did at hewlett packard when 30,000 people lost their jobs. if it did not work at hp why would it work at the federal government. >> first of all i haven't said that. in the process of examining every dollar, cutting any dollar, and moving every dollar we happen to know in this vast federal bureaucracy we have about 260,000 federal government employees who are going to retire. and we shouldn't replace them. secondly, at hewlett packard, as you know, the people of iowa know. this we went through a tough time. the wors7 technology recession in 2 5 years a great company called gateway use to do be here in iowa. they didn't make the tough calls necessary to save all those jobs and so they lost every one of those jobs.
yes, i have had to make some tough calls. we saved 80,000 jobs. we went on to grow to 160,000 jobs. and, frankly, i think the american people know we need a president who is going to make some tough calls. so let me tell you where i'm going to start. the american people got a bill passed through congress that said we could fire the' top 400 senior executives at the v.a. for dereliction of duty when we know that 307,000 veterans have died waiting for healthcare and the v.a. handed out $142 million worth of bonuses for suburb performances i am going to start by firing 400 senior executives at the v.a. [cheers and applause] >> thank you. >> senator santorum, bernie sanders asked a woman in iowa what it's like to live in poverty. than $10,000 a year and she is ashamed every day. she leans on her parents for help. she says she can't buy presents for her children. we are all sympathetic to this woman's plight.
on the other hand the g.o.p. is supposed to be the party of smaller government. what would you look her in the eye and say? we have to create jobs that give people wages and benefits that can help them provide for themselves and their families. that he was why i announced from a factory floor in pennsylvania. i pledge to do make america the number one manufacturing nation again in the world. we can do it. china is start something to reorganizing itself away from manufacturing dumping products overseas to providing services to its people. it's an opportunity for america to get those jobs back. by the way, do you want to solve global climate change? take 2 million jobs from china in manufacturing and moving them back here to the united states,÷ one fifth the co 2 when we make things. we can do it all. we can take care of the environment, create more jobs here. 74% of americans don't have a college degree. unfortunately most folks who in the republican party don't talk about what we're
going to do to create jobs for people who feel like neither political party cares about them. [bell] >> you elect me we will create jobs for men and women all over this country. >> thank you, senator. >> nikkei haley. >> did you miss me? did you skip me? >> did i not. >> i'm going to have something to say. you just keep going. >> you bet, governor. we have a couple more in the hopper for a second. >> yeah, i will be there. >> first, governor, governor huckabee. >> nikkei haley warned about listening to the siren call of the angriest voices to which donald trump said he is very, very angry. who is right, governor? >> a lot of americans are angry. and i think it's important to understand why they are mad. they are mad because they see a government that continues to do fine. they see people at the top. they are doing fine. but that person you asked rick about a moment ago, that lady that's making 10,000 bucks a year, do you know what our poverty
programs do to people? they keep them in poverty. they keep them in poverty because we have these arbitrary treasure holds that mean that if you go to work, you lose all the benefits%(ñ for your kids, medicaid, wic, section 8 housing,cwvmfood stamps and then your kids go hungry. i know a little bit about poverty. my sister is here tonight. both of us can tell you we both did not grow up rich. my mother grew up in a house oldest of seven kids. she had lived in a house that didn't have floors. just dirt. no electricity. no running water. i resent it when people say oh people are poor because they want to be. no, they are not. nobody wants to be poor. and that's a stupid, foolish thing, mean thing to say. people are poor because they don't know how to get out of the hole. and government shouldn't push them back in the hole which is what our policies do when they punish people who want to go to work. [bell] >> and don't let them out. [cheers and applause] >> we can fix that but it takes some leadership to get it done.
>> thank you, governor. [cheers and applause] >> governor gilmore, thanks to the iranian nuclear deal president rouhani is currently on a tour of europe meeting with our closest allies in france and italy. in fact, he has already landed some 50 to 85 billion are the estimates in deals with those countries with our allies. more on the way. you and others say you would rip up that deal. but, really, by the time the next president is in office, of the barn? >> you know, martha, it may be out of the barn in that the iranians mayç be moving towards a nuclear program, because this nuclear deal actually gives them a time frame up the road when they are going to be able to do that kind of program. that's very dangerous because it means people in the middle east have to begin to react to that right now. the united states, i think, has to continue to exercise its influence in the middle east, stay active, and not do this pull back type of program that we are seeing
all over the place with president obama, which is creating this kind of danger. the world is a more dangerous place now than when i was an intelligence agent. we have not only this international guerrilla war but also these challenges from other countries as well. martha, i want to say one other thing to you and bill. i disagree with carly fiorina when she says it's a political class in washington. the country has changed. forces controlling our lives that's why people are so angry. one of those is government which is regulating everything through the environmental protection agency and through other places. but the biggest one is the organized establishment media. and i just noticed just now you gave carly fiorina two one-minute answers in a row. this media across the country is$q manipulating and shaping and framing this campaign and has been for at least a year now in order to get the kind of choices that people are going to have an opportunity to see. this is wrong. [bell] >> it has to change and when
i'm president it's going to change. [ applause ] >> we have another question for you, governor gilmore back to back, here we go. >> i'll take it. [ laughter ] >> you got it according to google, gun control is the most searched issue last month, making up nearly 80% of all the u.s. searches people are looking for information on guns. when it comes to the tragic seen in this country, donald trump says that what we need to do is quote build more institutions for people who are sickos. charles krauthammer says in some cases involuntary commitment would help. and you have agreed with that given that institution would be extraordinarily expensive to begin building, how much is too much to ask on this from the american taxpayer? martha, i just visited a community mental health9lçiwç clinic in new hampshire three days ago, as a matter of fact. when i was governor of virginia i tried to move more of those resources into the community. which will give us the resources to identify people who actually might be
dangerous and who abuse second amendment rights. but i do believe this is one of the really principle issues in this campaign. the president and hillary clinton are working very hard to change the culture of this country in order to put us in a position where amendment rights. that's wrong. i am a board member of the national rifle association. the reason i'm a board member is because i believe that individuals in this country can be trusted to exercise their rights under the second amendment and under the bill of rights. to take away people's second amounts rights is to redefine the individual in the society. i'm not going to put up with it as president of the united states when jim gilmore is president of the united states, i can tell you this: gun control is not going to be an issue. if gun control. [bell] comes to the president's desk when i'm president, i will veto it as fast as it takes. hillary clinton to eliminate her emails. >> thank you governor gilmore. [ applause ] >> governor huckabee you have mentioned the -- 50% of
the american workers are making'b less than $30,000 a year. let's talk about what you could do for them. the conservative club for growth has had an issue with your policy on taxes for years. in fact, it called you tax hike mike. and the records show state spending in arkansas increased 54% when you were in charge, 94% if you include federal dollars are in that same period. when it comes to helping 30,000, $32,000 a year, what's better? a tax and spend approach or shrinking government? >> well, i didn't have a tax and spend approach. you have got to understand where the club for growth comes from. a bunch of rich guys sitting around writing checks to go after people they don't like. because i was fighting for the guys at the bottom, not just the guys at the top. i cut the 94 taxes in a state that had never had a general major tax decrease in its history.]r÷ i also was able to see per
capita income growth in my state go up by 50%. i think it's a pretty darn good record. look at the overall record and it was fine. it's not about stats from when i was governor. look, one of the reasons i support the fair tax is because it's the one thing, bill, that would truly empower people at the bottom of the economy by no longer punishing them for their work. if a guy works an hourly job and he works eight hours and gets paid for it terrific. but if he works 16 hours, he doesn't get a double paycheck. because is he going to be bumped up into a new tax bracket and the government will get more of his second shift than he will, so we have actually punished him for being industriesous and hard-working and that is a foolish economic policy. [bell] >> that's hurting americans about as much as anything. >> governor huckabee, thank you. [ applause ] >> same issue, senator santorum, the president says criticism economic policy is political hot air. you consistently talk about manufacturing jobs leaving america. you support a flat tax of 20%. how would a flat tax bring
back 2 million jobs to america? >> well with, in fact, the plan that i put forward is scored by the tax foundation as bringing 3.5 million jobs into this country. and we have provisions in the flat tax for the corporate side that actually has a phase-n manufacturing. manufacturers initially don't pay any income tax: 10% the next year and then 20. have a repatriotcp?÷ ion division. if you have money overseas, apple. bring it back. most you will be taxed is 10%. invest it in america. create jobs in america with all that money that's sitting overseas. it's not just taxes. it's regulation. i have pledge to do cut every single obamacare -- excuse mio bama regulation, including obamacare, and remove those regulations that cost more than $100 million in the economy. that will liberate and that includes waters in the u.s. and the ozone regulations, mercury regulations, all of these just crush our
manufacturers and don't create an opportunity for us to survive.iuwrw3 remember, china produces five times as much co 2 and other pollutants per dollar of g.d.p. as we do. [bell] >> you want to help had the environment, bring jobs back to america. >> senator, thank you. [ applause ] >> still more to come from the republican presidential debate tonight. see how responding to the debate in retime. go to google google.com and type inspect fox news debate. we'll be back siness have a spir? siness have a spir? can a business have a soul? can a business be...alive?
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>> he is right there. he is right there. >> but back in september in an interview you said that you would stick only to the record, your record versus hillary clinton's record. and never resort to personal attacks. so what changed? >> it wasn't a personal attack. i was pointing out the fact that hillary clinton will do anything to gain andj(( hang on to power, anything. listen, if my husband did what bill clinton did, i would have left him long ago. [ applause ] >> here's the deal. hillary clinton has been climbing the ladder to try and get power and here now she is trying for the white house. she is probably more qualified for the big house, honestly. she has escaped prosecution more times than he el chapo, perhaps sean penn should interview her. the woman should be prosecuted. [cheers and applause]
and while mrs. clinton has flown hundreds of thousands of world around the global, i have too. i know flying is an activity not an accomplishment. while she has held many positions and titles she has not accomplished much of anything in her life. she has gotten every single foreign policy challenge wrong. [bell] >> she continues to lie to the american people. it's called the clinton way. both bill and hillary practice it the clinton way. do whatever youcñ÷c#qsá lie as long as you can get away with it. hillary clinton cannot be united states. [cheers and applause] >> carlie, i want to stay with you on this next question as well with. >> you weighed into waded in to the planned parenthood. now the people who shot the indicted and planned parenthood is untouched. hillary clinton has been crowing about this. any regrets about this? >> you know, hillary clinton hasn't been indicted either. so that tells us a lot about
our justice system in this country. but, look, the facts of planned parenthood have not changed, folks, and i will not be rendered silent on this issue or any other issue and it doesn't matter what stage i'm on. here are the facts. planned parenthood engages in partial birth abortion, in late term abortion, they alter those abortion techniques to harvest and sell body parts, they have admitted that they are not going to accept compensation for this anymore. the reality is, most americansckg find this practice horrific. most americans find horrific that hillary clinton's position on this is it's not a life until it's born. most americans find horrific hillary clinton's position or the democrat party's position that a young woman does not need her mother's permission to get an abortion. but if you are 13 years old, you can get an abortion but you can't go to it a tanning salon without your mother's permission. a president fiorina, in a president fiorina budget, there will not be one dime for planned parenthood,
although there would be a lot of money for women's health and we will finally pass the pain capable unborn child protection act. i will always stand for life and religious liberty because this is about the character of our nation. [cheers and applause] >> thank you, carlie fiorina. let me just ask a quick question here to senator santorum. carly fiorina was the only one of the g.o.p. candidates to attend the march for life in washington last week. where were you? >> well, i have7
snow. here's what i would say. if you want someone that's going to talk a good game there are a lot of folks on this stage who have talked a good game on the issue of life. not only i have talked a good game on life, i have done some things, but i have also lived it. you know, one of the things saint francis said was, you know, if you preach the gospel, if you have to speak. bottom line is that twice in my life we were counsel to do have an abortion, one with our son gabriel and one with our little girl bella. and neither time did me and my wife think about it because we know life begins at conception. we know the dignity of every human life and we know the potential of a child no matter how long that life lives. that is a message that can come across to everyîç?; americans and without having to say a word and defend the institution of life and the dignity of life in this country. [ applause ] >> thank you, martha. >> can i just say we have been talking tonight about a lot of issues.
and we have also been talking about the fact that the game is rigged and, frankly, the media has a lot to do with that it's outrageous, frankly, that fox news and you, would question the pro-life credentials of rick santorum. that is outrageous. [ applause ] [cheers and applause] >> thank you, ms. fiorina.èç governor gilmore, who are the moderate muslims -- who are the moderate muslims you seek advice and counsel from on how to deal with the threat of radical islamic terrorism? >> you know, bill, that raises, i think, the future of the republican party. the question is, first of all, i stand second to no one in standing up to radical islamism.
manifesto in paris, 9/11, san bernardino, in boston. i recognize all of that. but i also recognize this. this is a stream of islamism that cannot be supported and stood for. what we need is for people in the muslim community in the united states to stand up and be counted and to say that this is not right. yes, i have met with some people and i am not going to identify who they are. i met with them last week. they told me some terrible stories about how they have been harassed and their children have seen them be harassed. i said to them, you have got to stand up and condemn this radical islamism. war of ideas we are going to have to win to go along with our military conflicts going forward. the point is. [bell] >> we can't have a scapegoats anyone, hispanics, women, african-americans, anyone. if that becomes the future of the republican party, i don't want to be a part of that. [ applause ] >> thank you, governor. governor huckabee, here in
iowa, 43% of democratic caucus goers describe that's a higher number than those who say they are capitalists. they are feeling the berne. this is a country roaded in capitalism. the united states of america. how did we get here? >> i honestly don't understand how anybody with iq above plant life would honestly think. [ laughter ] that we would be better off if we let the government have all of the private property and that the government would dole out what they thought we should have. i'm not feeling the berne, bill. i'm not feeling it. [ applause ] >> when bernie sanders promises these kids free college i'm telling them because i get asked what about free college. if we give you free college when you are 20. pal, you are going to be paying for it when you are are 50. there is no such thing as
the government giving you anything. they will definitely make a mess of it. and i just think there are a lot of people who have never understood the basic understanding of economics, that you do not make people rich by tearing down those you don't help poor people by taking away. you give them jobs. let them work. [bell] >> let them earn and then you let them keep the phone that they earned. that's how we build a great economy. [ applause ] >> thank you, governor.my senator santorum, the president says politics in america have become meaner over the past several years with him in the white house. two weeks ago at the state of the union he said the following. a president with the gifts of lincoln or roosevelt might have better bridge to divide. lincoln and roosevelt. that's pretty good company. if he is right, do republicans share some of the blame? >> the president of the united states has been the most divisive president in certainly my lifetime.
this is a man who constantly. [ applause ] he is not trust worthy. you can't sit down and negotiate with him. won't keep a deal. we have heard that over and over again. here is what he does that really, really creates the friction in washington. he personally attacks people. he ascribes motives that aren't true and tears them down. how are you going to work with someone if you don't treat them decently, honestly and respectfully? i was a tough fighter when i was in washington. i had very sharp elbows. i fought. i went there and joined a game named jim. we took a congress controlled by democrats for 40 years and brought in the first republican majority because we fought and we fought tough. you know what? i was able to then work with those same people that we fought with and able to pass welfare reform. unborn victims of violence act. pro-life bills. [bell] >> health savings accounts.
because i was able to be respectful in the disagreements. that's what we need in washington. someone to be respectful and still unite this country. >> thank you, senator. [ applause ] >> coming up, we will have the closing statements from our candidates tonight as we continue live from the iowa we'll be right back. i'm billy, and i quit smoking with chantix. i had a lot of doubts going in.
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[ applause ] >> in the closing few moments we have, the candidates have an opportunity to make a closing statement. 30 seconds for each. we want to start tonight with the former virginia governor jim gilmore. >> thank you very much, bill. and thank you and fox and google for including me in this debate tonight. i think it's been a wonderful opportunity. i'm the son of a meat cutter. my father worked for safeway
stores for 45 years. my mother was the secretary. she entered her career as secretary for the methodist bishop. i didn't have a father that can give me a million-dollar loan to start my business. but my father did talk character and he provided for his family and he was a wonderful example. i'm not about to go. [bell] >> to go across town tonight to carry the coat for some billionaire. instead i intend to run for president of the united states. speak to the issue of this international war and challenge that we are in. this issue of veterans' rights. [bell] >> and the issue of second amendment rights and i ask for your support. >> thank you, governor. now let's go to senator rick santorum. >> i want to thank the people of iowa. in the last five years i have done 700 speeches and town hall meetings all acrossz the state of ohio. [ applause ] >> and it's been incredible ride. thank you. i want to thank all the wonderful folks like pastor kerry gordon and gave me a smooth stone and said you can slay goliath. tam cook gave up christmas
presents for their kids and they have more than i do just so they could help me on my campaign. that's the. [bell] >> kind of people in iowa. and here's what i'm asking you to do. you are good people. you know good lead. pick the ride person. not what the polls say. not who the money people give to. pick the leader you know is best for this country. thank you. [ applause ] >> governor huckabee. >> well, this week there was a little dust-up about a video we put together with the music of adele. be appropriate for me to begin tonight by saying hello, iowa, it's me. [ laughter ] and you know me. you gave me the largest number of votes in the history of the iowa caucus eight years ago. i think you did it because you trusted me. you believed that i had your when i was governor, i had a little plaque in my office in the governor's office and it simply said. this come, let us reason together. [bell] >> i believe the next president needs to that
plaque in the oval office and needs to lead this country by saying, "come, let us reason together." god bless you and thank you for your support. [cheers and applause] >> thank you, governor. >> in over 150 events i have come to know and love the people of iowa. and the people of iowa know what the rest of americans have figured out. this ain't working anymore. the government no longer works for those who pay for it the professional and political classes and does whatever they need to do to win and does whatever they please. we need to return to a citizen government. that is why i'm running for president. the media, the establishment, they all want to tell it you this election is over. they know who is going to win it, except that you haven't cast a single vote yet. [bell] >> so the people of iowa stand with me, fight with me, caucus for me. it is time to take our country back. [cheers and applause] >> thank you, carlie. that concludes our debate tonight. but tonight has just begun.
>> in one hour seven more candidates take the stage for a debate hosted by bret baier, megyn kelly and chris wallace. up next the o'reilly factor. good night, everybody. [ applause ] ♪ ♪uet,vç hi, i'm bill o'reilly, reporting tonight from los angeles. thanks for watching us. the big republican debate and reaction to donald trump on the factor last night. that is the the subject of this evening's talking points memo. well, we received about 7,000 emails from you guys. commenting on mr. trump's decision not to attend the republican debate in iowa this evening. and, of course, about his chat with me. there was massive coverage on that and i will run it down for you real quickly. cbs morning news, fair. abc good morning america