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today.s of 400,000 people expected here for the annual st. patrick's day parade. the river was just dyed green a short while ago. the energy really starting to pick up here. so the big question is, what happened last night? because these donald trump rallies have been increasingly rowdy. we have seen the video. i was told that for the first time it appeared there was an equal amount of energy between the supporters and the protesters. that is it just got too escalated. also, a person did make it on the stage pretty close to donald trump. there was an estimate of 30,000 people there last night. donald trump says he decided to pull the plug, he did not want to see anybody get hurt or worse. he did say he spoke to somebody in law enforcement. i spoke to the illinois state police. i spoke to the chicago police and i also spoke to uic campus police. they all tell me they did not advise donald trump to cancel that rally. in fact, no one even spoke to trump's campaign beforehand to talk to him. chicago police said they had 300 officers there and could have kept donald save safe had the
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rally continued. donald does have other events in ohio today and kansas city. we'll keep you posted if anything else develops. the it's a funway, the weather is great in chicago and everything is going well today in comparison to last night. >> absolutely. we hope it stays peaceful. thank you so much, matt. republican candidates are fanning out over five states this weekend ahead of tuesday's primaries. donald trump and john kasich are pushing hard for support in ohio. while ted cruz focuses on missouri voters and marco rubio fights for his political life in florida. carl cameron is following it all from the sunshine state and joins us now with more. hi, carl. >> reporter: hi, doug. marco rubio has to win florida. he has said as much. and even if he doesn't, he says he'll try to continue on to the contested convention expected in the -- at the republican national convention in july in cleveland. today mr. trump was asked again about the tone and tenor of his rallies, the occasional outbursts of violence.
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and here's what he had to say. listen to this. >> all of a sudden, a planned attack just came out of nowhere. printed by -- it was printed by people that were professional people. if you look at the posters, they're all printed, they have a mark on them, who made them. all done by a group. all very professionally done. a disgrace, if you want to know the truth. >> reporter: and that is how donald trump explained what happened last night. it's a busy day on the campaign trail. they're counting down to this -- what many have called the super tuesday two. florida is very, very important. ted cruz has not been putting much effort in here with the expectation it will be a rubio versus trump battle. and cruz, however, is also making the point that there is still plenty of time and donald trump is the guy to beat. watch. >>
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so we're here in hudson, florida. where just a short while ago, marco rubio's bus tour stopped in for a packed house at a barbecue spot and we had a chance to talk to him on that bus and ask him specifically what his thoughts were about mr. trump's tone and the violence that's erupted. and marco rubio is getting increasingly angry, and it is becoming the dominant theme of his closing arguments here in florida. three days before the vote. this is marco rubio just literally minutes ago. >> i think a lot of people have responsibility for what we've gotten to this point. i had always hoped that voters and eventually the media and others would see through this and define it for what it is. it's only gotten worse. >> reporter: the governor of ohio, john kasich, who has said if he does not win the buckeye state on tuesday will drop out, is also weighing in on donald trump. and just as critical. in both cases of rubio and kasich, they're making the argument that the republican party and the country are at stake. and here is kasich's version of
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that. [ no audio ] >> donald trump has created a toxic environment. and the toxic environment has allowed his supporters and those who sometimes seek confrontation to come together in violence. there is no place for this. >> reporter: the trump campaign has a number of ways in which they hope to sort of address this. in the next couple of weeks, some of his supporters are talking about unveiling what they call their diversity coalition. it would include black pastors. they say they've got hungs hundreds of people from various different minority demographies, who are prepared to come out and publicly express their support for trump, making the argument that they understand what he's trying to say, even if it does incite some to take steps beyond what anyone has seen in political rallies in any recent
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memory. doug? >> quick question for you. i'm curious what the assessment of trump's gop. i suspect it's not going to go over well with trump followers who are there to hear his message. they're not the ones who are interrupting the speeches. >> reporter: right. and that's a big part of the problem. these are trump protesters. these are demonstrators in many cases from the left. democratic and liberal groups. and they are trying to exercise their free speech. but trump campaign's argument is these are private campaign events he pays for and therefore those people should take their protests and demonstrations outside. and, in fact, they do sometimes provide a pen or a location outside the venue for the demonstrates to say what they have to say. but in political rallies, even when they're ticketeded and invitations are required, rsvps and everything else, it's impossible to keep the public out completely, particularly when the rallies are as big as mr. trump has. he tends to exaggerate the
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numbers, by the way. often when he says there's 25 or 30,000 people, it's not that. and the fire marshalls and the sheriffs and the police department will give a different number. but the fire chiefs and the police department don't stand in front of podiums and inflate the numbers, as trump does. doug? >> carl cameron in florida today. thank you, carl. as you heard in that report, ohio governor john kasich is hanging his entire campaign on his home state. kasich has repeatedly expressed a loss in the buckeye state would be the end of the line for him. but he did get support this week from a very unlikely source. gop rival and florida senator, marco rubio. who is asking his supporters to vote for kasich in ohio. the rubio campaign saying it believes kasich is the only candidate who can stop trump in ohio. according to a new fox news poll, that may be true. kasich is leading trump by five points. jock jack tory of the "columbus dispatch" joins us now. thank you for joining us. >> glad to be here. >> we see that kasich -- beyond
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the margin of error is leading, 34% to donald trump's 29%. but i want to ask you, if the ohio voters do, in fact, select governor kasich, is that a speed bump for donald trump, or is that a -- a wall for donald trump, for lack of better words? what type of effect would that have on his campaign? >> i think the actual effect would be this is part of a growing republican strategy to stop trump. they need rubio to win florida, and kasich to carry ohio. and there's this little unwritten detant going on. rubio is not advertising in ohio. kasich is not advertising -- >> what's their end goal there? is there a brokered convention at the end of the line? >> yes, they see that as their only hope at stopping them. john kasich, you have to win 85% of all the outstanding delegates to come up. so he's hoping and rubio is hoping to get in there and get a
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brokered convention. and the only way to do that is to guarantee that you stop trump in certain states. and hope that trump stops himself in other ways. >> i had seen a piece on your website, and it said there's good news for kasich and there's bad news for kasich. if he does not win, that's the end of his campaign. but like you said, then what? then what does the gop establishment do? >> cry? i mean -- >> no other tactic? a brokered convention, is that really an effective tool? >> it's a far more effective tool than having a man at the top of the ticket who right now has about a 60% disael professional rating nationally. and we'll have a great deal of trouble -- i'm talking about mr. trump -- will have a great deal of difficulty of winning votes of women, hispanics and african-americans. we saw that in 2012, where mitt romney ran poorly among those groups. you can't rerun the 2012
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election and hope to win. and the point is, there aren't enough angry white guys out there to elect him. so the republicans know this. mitch mcconnell has told his people if trump is nominated, you run your own races for re-election. >> okay. so we're running that hypothetical. let's run the other hype lettelca. these are winner take all states. >> correct. >> so there's 367 delegates up for grabs. but both ohio and florida on tuesday are winner take all. that's 66 and 99 delegates. what if trump gets both states? >> then i would say it's going to be almost impossible for the republicans to stop him. that he'll be the nominee. and that will put the republicans in a very difficult spot in cleveland. they either get behind him or they launch a third party candidacy and the state election laws are hard to do that. one of the reasons why former new york mayor michael bloomberg chose not to get in this. it's a very difficult thing to do. the republicans nationally are scared to death of this guy.
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>> from your experience in covering campaigns, obviously, this is unprecedented, the rhetoric we have seen. and it's been obviously ratch ratcheted up. what type of effect do you think, especially with the recent violence we have seen or the uptick in troefts in the past 24 hours, what type of an effect is that going to have ahead of tuesday? there are some people who are undecided voters, and there are some people who may see this tactic by the gop and find it appealing. >> i think there's a lot of -- i think one of the ways is look back at the 1968 election where george wallace unleashed a lot of the similar types of emotions. it wasn't called america first, but it was close to making what's making america great again. and those emotions really shook the country in 1968. eventually, though, the country chose between richard nixon and hubert humphrey and they selected mr. nixon. i think you can see the same type of thing happening here. what happened in chicago last night is a real scary thing for
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a lot of national republicans. because he is -- trump -- it's almost like he went and saw rodrick crawford in "all the kings men" to -- here's how you do this. if you watch that film, you will see willie stark appealing to all the basic instincts of his supporters and unleashing a lot of emotions. and once you do that, you don't know where it's going to end. >> i would say that that is one way to sum up what we have seen, unleashing a lot of emotions. it's been a very turbulent campaign. we appreciate you coming on, jock tory. it's very interesting. i hope we have you back and we'll have all eyes on ohio, among other states on tuesday. >> great. glad to be here. >> thank you so much. >> great incite. hillary clinton is taking a break to attend nancy reagan's funeral. she is spending most of her week in ohio ahead of tuesday's primaries. bernie sanders hoping to keep the momentum going from a surprise win in michigan and bring that to e. ed henry, covering it all and
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joins us now from cleveland. >> reporter: doug, good to see you. hillary clinton will be speaking in a couple of hours. part of that obviously about african-american turnout. ahead of tuesday's primary, which you mentioned. but it's also a chance for her to go after donald trump with everything you've been talking about. overnight, hillary clinton putting out a statement noting that there had been that tragedy at an african-american church in south carolina last year, with a gunman going in and killing so many people. and she tied that, actually, to the violence at some trump rallies and said that everybody needs to calm down, cool it. and, in fact, at an earlier campaign stop this morning in missouri, clinton said much the same. watch. >> the ugly, divisive rhetoric we are hearing from donald trump and the encouragement he has given to violence and aggression is not only wrong, it's dangerous, my friend. >> so you can also see this is an opportunity for the
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democratic front runner to go after the person whom she believes she'll be facing in the run up to november in a general election in donald trump. she had been hammering him out here on the trail even before of what happened in chicago. and so has bernie sanders, by the way. interviewed him a couple days ago. and before yesterday's situation in chicago, sanders was saying some of the rhetoric involving muslims, involving mexicans, is something that he deplored, saying that donald trump should cut it out. a short time ago, sanders himself happened to be in chicago, the illinois primary on tuesday, of course. he went after trump, as well. saying that all of this needs to be toned down. and that it's a matter of time before something more violent happens. watch sanders. >> what happened the other day when some young man was being escorted out and he was sucker punched. and we have seen other incidents. so the issue now is that donald trump has got to be loud and clear and tell his supporters that violence at rallies is not
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what america is about, and to end it. >> now, remember, sanders some time ago was endorsed by moveon.org, which is taking some credit for in their words, shutting down donald trump's rally yesterday in chicago. and, in fact, on social media right now, people at least supporting moveon.org are trying to get people out to a donald trump event here in the city of cleveland later this afternoon, saying they also want to try to shut that down, as well. so interesting, donald trump will be in this city in a short time. hillary clinton will be here, as well. doug? >> could be a very interesting couple weeks ahead. thank you, ed. appreciate it. still ahead, military maneuvers in the south, prompts another threat from north korea. this as the country tries to locate one of its missing subs. we'll have all of the details, coming up. plus, ted cruz campaigning in missouri ahead of tuesday, when voters there and in four other states go to the polls. with so many delegates up for grabs in one day, it could be a turning point in the nomination race.
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. a war of words with south korea, its latest move threatening to attack. north korea says its military is ready for a preemptive attack against the south as it sees signs that america and south
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korean troops are invading the north. the heated rhetoric coming as the united states and south korea are holding annual military drills in seoul. today the troops practiced a massive amphibious exercise. meanwhile, u.s. defense officials confirm that north korea has lost a diesel submarine. so far, the u.s. has not been asked by north korea to assist in any search and rescue efforts. as we have been showing you, a close call for donald trump at an ohio rally just a little while ago when somebody in the crowd apparently broke through the security perimeter and reportedly threw something that just missed the republican presidential candidate, although you can't make it out on camera. this happening just hours after angry clashes broke out between protesters and supporters at a cancelled rally in chicago. trump's gop rivals blame what they call his divisive rhetoric,
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but trump claims he is a union fire and blamed the protest on the protesters. here for a fair and balanced debate, craig veroga, and lauren claffy. thank you both for joining us. lauren, who do you blame for this violence? >> i think all parties are to blame for this. i don't think you can levy blame particularly on donald trump or the protesters. i mean, the heightened rhetoric of this -- the political discourse these days is just appalling to see, quite honestly. and i think this is an accumulation of things that has been happening for years. >> craig? >> i mean, i think that this is terrible, what's happening. i do think that donald trump bears a large moral responsibility for this. he started his campaign by attacking americans. and he's joked about murder. he has said that he could commit murder and people would continue to support him. and i think that if you talk like that, you're going to, one, get protesters. and two, the type of rhetoric that he is using is condoning violence. and i think that we're probably going to see more of this.
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and i think it's atrocious, because people's lives are at stake. >> you know, some people ask, where was this righteous indignation over incitement of violence during the obama administration? the past seven years of it. to quote a couple phrases through the years, i know they, the special interests and lobbyists are gearing up for a fight as we speak. my message to them is, so am i. another one, i don't want to quell anger, i'm angry. another one, if they bring a knife to a fight, we bring a gun. because from what i understand, folks in philly like a good brawl. i've seen eagles fans. >> where was this kind of indignation? >> i think that -- i mean, it's one thing to talk about anger. it's another thing to talk about murder. it's another thing to tell your supporters at a rally remove physically protesters. it's another thing to condone when your manager physically acosts a reporter. i think it's a -- you may be right about some of the rhetoric and whether it's appropriate or not. but i do think that there is a
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quantitative difference in what donald trump is doing. and no american politician in either party has talked like this 80 years. >> there has been suggestions that moveon.org is behind a lot of this orchestrated violence. there certainly appears to be, as we have watched these rallies progress through the last several months. a pattern to them. a protester erupts every three minutes, every four minutes, every five or so, making it virtually impossible for him -- for trump to complete his thoughts. >> yeah. i mean, i think it's definitely organized. i think that you have a millennial activist movement happening. they're looking for opportunities to get the attention that they need. and donald trump's rallies are covered wall to wall by the media. nonstop. they're a perfect opportunity for attention-seekers to make a name for themselves, get their voices heard, their issues out there. so it makes sense this would be a target of organized protests like this. >> let me ask you one more
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question, craig, about this. and then we'll move on to another subject. clive cook, is a british guy, wrote earlier last month about his experience being a brit, and working in washington, d.c., but buying property in west virginia. which gave them a new perspective on the kind of people who go to trump rallies. he said, quote, they understand the prevailing view they're bigots. too stupid to know what's good for them. and they see this contempt is reserved especially for them. the ones i know don't seem to be that angry or bitter. they find it funny more than infuriating, but sure don't like being looked down upon. does that explain the violence we're seeing in some respect? >> no, i think it's because of donald trump. there have been americans of good faith and conscience in both parties for decades who have disagreed with each other. but we have not seen this level of violence and this type of rhetoric out of a candidate's mouth in any of our lifetimes. we haven't seen anything like this since the '30s. whether huey long or adolph hitler. >> you just broke godwin's law.
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i won't get -- first person to bring up hitler's name in a discussion loses. >> i'll have to google that. but, look, i mean, both democrats and republicans are beginning to say that. and we're having a discussion in this country about whether he's beneato mussolini or adolf hitler. >> craig ba rowinga, thank you very much. lauren claffy. still to come, a look inside isis as the most detailed information surfaces about the terror group. and looking at live pictures from heath, ohio, where a crowd is gathering for a town hall meeting for favorite son and potential candidate john kasich. we'll bring you that when it happens. stay with us. a lot more from the campaign trail, coming up. at ally bank, no branches equals great rates. it's a fact. kind of like grandkids equals free tech support. oh, look at you, so great to see you! none of this works.
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more than 20,000 gee add histories are being forced out of the shadows after a flash drive with their names and
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personal information was released to the press. the personal files were stolen by an isis defector and could offer key insight into intelligence agencies fighting the terrorist organization. tom borrowingan joins us now. >> great to be with you. >> can we be sure this flash drive is authentic and not some ruse by isis? >> the very interesting thing about this, when it first came out a number of analysts were pointing out some incongruences in terms of the list. since then, one of the reasons why i've come down with pretty good confidence that it is real, and why, frankly, more valuable to your viewers than intelligence services have, the names on the list conform with the cell phone numbers, addresses, references, that we already -- that those services already knew about. were essentially classified. but they have verified there is a conformity there. so i think one of the theories about why there are some sort of things about how the documents are laid out is probably because
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the individual who provided this document to the different media outlets perhaps wanted to make it more saleable on paper. he wanted to show this is a genuine document. but the material in there is of value. and we know it is of value, because it's already generating intelligence leads right now. >> interesting. and the sheer number of it is remarkable. we're talking 22,000 names, addresses, telephone numbers and family contacts of islamiest jihadists. are intelligence agents going to use this information? >> on this list of questionnaires each individual has signed, there is a reference point that someone has said go and join the islamic state. what that allows intelligence sources to do, especially important in europe, is to identify networks, which to say, what names keep popping up as a reference? and where are the combinations between two different people that we didn't know before? had some coact? and so when you have that information -- it then allows
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you to go and get what's called a network picture, understand who are the recruiters, who are the people providing support and safe houses, orientation towards the islam state. and hopefully through that, it allows you to redirect your resources into targeting the most dangerous people. because one of the big challenges that european counterterrorism services face, in contrast with the united states, is where the fbi here, quite frankly, has the resources to monitor very intensely at a human level the suspects they're concerned about. in the u.k., especially, but also france, germany, the intelligence services are overwhelmed and they have to pick and mix who they're following. >> that raises my next question. are there enough fbi agents in this country, or they're equivalent in foreign countries, to track down these 22,000 names? >> i think there are here. i think a challenge -- the challenge with the fbi here is the encryption issue, a real issue. some people say it's exaggerated. but certainly in terms of developing plots in europe, one of the reasons the fbi is very concerned is that you see a lot
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of people in europe being able to evade detection. but in europe, there is a different concern in the sense they do not have enough specifically human surveillance offices. >> would you be able in this country, at least, to get a search warrant based upon this information? or is this considered metadata? >> well, i think because of the specifics on this, it would have to be probably corroborated against other information that the agents had, or the joint terrorism task force has gathered. it's elite, but an important lead. and develops that picture and also develops the kind of connection points between different networks. and as we hear more about isis fighters engaged in the paris attacks on the list, others being -- it also one specific advantage, for example, is that where you have these people on the list, who you know has been killed in iraq or syria already, what it allows you to do is see -- backtrack, where did the slak state put the people they saw as more valuable european fighters into the fight. where are they being trained and developed? so it allows at various levels some of it very in depth,
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tactical and strategic targeting. >> ten seconds left. is the fact that this mandy affected an indication the hierarchy of isis is beginning to crumble? >> i still think they have the very people at top consolidated. probably an internal power struggle the person didn't get the promotion he wanted. as you see with the met as at the as i say around the world, it remains a threat. >> tom rowing an from national review, thank you. >> thank you. other international news making headlines. european leaders meeting in paris say they are making progress across the region. but help can't come too soon for thousands of refugees. they have been stranded for weeks, along greece's border with macedonia after that country shut its borders. groups of mostly iraqis and syrians have set up tents in a muddy camp on the greek border. europe migrant crisis is setting the backdrop for key elections in three german states tomorrow. we'll keep a close eye on that.
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and you're taking a live look at a gathering in ohio, just outside of cleveland, where governor john kasich is expected to speak momentarily. this is a crucial, crucial state for the governor there if he doesn't take this state, his home state, he vows to step out. and the delegate-rich sunshine state. can marco rubio stop the trump train with a win in his home state? ♪ walking on sunshine ♪ whoa ♪ i'm walking on sunshine ♪ whoa ♪ i'm walking on sunshine ♪ whoa ♪ andt's time to feel good innovative sonicare technology with up to 27% more brush movements versus oral b. get healthier gums in 2 weeks guaranteed. innovation and you. philips sonicare. save when you buy the most loved rechargeable toothbrush brand in america.
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a dominican church built in the 16th century has resurfaced from a reservoir in mexico. the relic was built to spread christianity in the area, but was flooded along with a whole town to make way for a dam in 1962. severe drought has lowered the water levels and brought the
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church back into view. ♪ gop presidential candidate, marco rubio, is fighting for his political life in his home state this weekend ahead of tuesday. it's an uphill battle for the florida senator, who, according to a recent fox news poll is losing to donald trump by more than 20 points. the stakes are high in the sunshine state. every florida gop primary winner since 1980 has gone on to win the nomination. the political reporter from "miami herald" joins us now. thanks for joining us, patricia. >> thank you. >> i want to put up a poll for our viewers, talks about early absentee voters. it says 47% have already voted for donald trump. so we are seeing a huge number of people come out. we saw one of our correspondents on the ground there. can you tell me about the surge of the early voters?
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are they new to the political scene, and what is exciting them about this particular election cycle? >> pollsters in florida say they are seeing what they call a typical surge voters, that they attribute to trump. that doesn't necessarily mean they're all voting for him. some could be voting because they want to stop him. generally in other states what we have seen is that this increase in the republican primary turnout is from voters who didn't vote in the 2012 or 2014 primaries for governor or for president. and that they have been brought into the fold, either because they were independents or democrats, or they just weren't into politics at all. mr. trump is coming back to florida tomorrow, and he'll be here on monday also. so we'll be able to get a better gauge of how he's doing. lately when he's been here, he's been having press conferences, but not rallies. so we haven't really seen one of those in the state in a little bit. >> yeah, we're also curious as to the events of this weekend, how that will affect tuesday.
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we have seen a very vocal marco rubio coming out, speaking out against trump. and he's also reaching out to both cuban-americans and other hispanics. is his message resonating throughout that demographic? >> he needs the florida republican hispanics to turn out in big numbers for him. most of the republicans are in miami-dade county. and i've gone to voter sites where have seen a lot of excited rubio voters. there are -- they're not all rubio voters. i mean, there are some voters for cruz, some voters for trump. they don't necessarily vote along ethnic lines. they're voting for the candidate they like the best. but rubio has the biggest operation from what we have been able to see in south florida, calling voters who have absentee ballots still out that they haven't mailed in yet. and just trying to get their early voters out this weekend. many counties in florida shut down their early voting today. but miami-dade continues until tomorrow. so we might see another push for them then.
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>> obviously, florida has always been a hot topic for him. but have you seen him really pick up his ground game, especially if you remember last week we talked about cruz opening up ten offices in florida. when did you see rubio start to focus more intently on florida? >> in the past week, i've talked to voters who got called, which is always a sign they're really trying to get not only the typical voters, but also voters who maybe don't fit their general demographics really going after them. the thing is, voting by mail in florida started weeks ago. and really, an operation that was behind, like in your poll and in others, although others show a smaller gap, should have started earlier. no one was doing it. i mean, not even rubio. but he is a hometown senator. maybe he thought he could turn it arod very quickly, whether he will have enough time to actually make up the gap between now and tuesday is what we'll be watching on election day. >> very interesting. and i have -- we only have about 30 seconds left.
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and this is one interesting question that i had for you. heading into this election cycle, about 25% of voters are unaffiliated. this is a close primary, so they won't be participating. so are we going to see maybe even more of a surge of participation in the general election, looking forward? sort of looking forward as we end our conversation? >> we might. i mean, this is a state that has seen an increase in what we call no party affiliation voters here in florida. especially among hispanics. so when it comes to november, i think the message is, we'll have to be refined a little bit by the candidates here. >> very interesting. patricia, thank you so much for joining us for your insight. we appreciate it. >> thanks. we are standing by in heath, ohio, right now where governor john kasich is about to address reporters at a town hall meeting. we'll bring that to you as soon as it gets under way.
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welcome back. governor john kasich has just been handed the microphone in heath, ohio. this is a crucial state, his home state, a state he must win if he's going to continue in this republican primary. let's listen in. >> i showed up here, and went in and took a little tour of the place. i was getting ready to leave -- this was an amazing thing.
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and i said to the man in charge, how do you know this man, you're shaking your head. do you remember paul lang? so there was a colonel. and he was just getting ready to leave the military. and i said, "sir, before i leave, is there anything that you might want to show me?" and he said, "oh, yeah." and he pulled his desk open. and he pulled out a wrench. and he said, "we had to buy this to run our facility here. what do you think this wrench cost?" i don't know, a couple bucks. i don't remember exactly, $17,000. i said, "$17,000?" he goes, "yeah, and look at this hammer. this was $37,000. and these bolts and -- everything." i said, "are you kidding me?" he said, "no, that's what we're paying for these spare parts." and i said, "can i take that
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stuff?" and -- because this was a shock to me. i was there to make sure that we build a strong defense. i was only on the armed services committee. he said, "yeah, i guess i could give you my tool box." so i took the hammers and the wrenches and the screwdrivers and the nuts and the bolts and i flew to washington. and i went in to see a great, great, great american. his name was bill nichols. he was a very conservative democrat from sillacauga, alabama. and he had had a leg blown off in world war ii. he was as committed -- in those days, we were all committed. we were unified as a congress to bring down -- to destroy the soviet union. i went in to see him. and i said, "sir, let me show you this little tool box i have." and i pulled out the hammer and the wrenches and the screwdrivers. and i remember, he put his glass down over his nose, because he had never seen anything like this before. because it became clear to him that if we were paying these
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kind of prices, the men and women in the military on the front lines were not getting what they needed. and some defense contractor was pocketing this money. and mr. nichols put the money. mr. nichols put the glasses down over his nose and he looked at me and he said, your mama don't have anymore like you at home, does she? and that started a major investigation into making sure that weet our dollars' worth. now how much fun do you think that was? how many friends you think i made with that? but you know, growing up, in a little town outside of pittsburgh, that is exactly like heath. exactly like hebron. exactly like newark. where people work hard, they play by the rules, and often tim oftentimes you don't get the fair shake. the wind blows the wrong way and we find ourselves out of work.
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and that's a lot of the anxiety today. am i going to keep my job? will i ever get a pay raise? i put my money in the bank and i used to get interest. they had my money, they paid me to have my money and now they don't pay me anything. and my son and daughter went to the university and got a degree and they're still living in my basement because they can't find a good job. so these concerns are real. i've spent my entirely political career fighting for people who usually don't have a voice and i realize that the number one thing we have to do. well, there are three things we have to do. i learned this from the former great governor of ohio, jim rhodes. the first thing to focus on is jobs. the second one is jobs. and what do you think third one
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is? jobs. exactly right. so i've spent my whole --y whole political career thinking about how to create an environment for job growth. senator portman talked about these numbers. they tell me that after -- well, that was another fight i had to make. i fought to balance the budget for ten years of my life and i fought the establishment in washington who really weren't interested in change. if you don't have change in business, you die. if you don't have change in government, the debt clock rings up. i always knew that there were two elements to this. one is the $58,000 per kid which our children are going to have to pay. but the $19,000 sends a message to the job creators that the earth is not cure, that there is shaking. when job creators get nervous, they sit on their wallet. and who pays the price?
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we do. our families do. our kids do. particularly small businesses because they're one who employ most of the people with new jobs in this country. we have to respect the small business creators. the men and women who create these businesses, they've got the guts and they do really the lord's work in creating an environment for more job growth. i know when this is out of whack it doesn't work very well. that's why he spent ten years to get us to a balanced budget. and in the meantime we also reformed welfare. you know why? because when you get up and go to work every day, we have to make sure that you are not giving money to people who need to learn how to be responsible. my mother told me this. and i believe her. it is a sin not to help somebody who needs help, but it is equally a sin to continue to
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help somebody who needs to learn how to help themselves. and we use that philosophy to reform welfare, which president clinton wasn't too thrilled about. you know, bill clinton, he's a guy that if he sees a riot coming at him, he'll get in front of it and call it a parade. but we finally got to the balanced budget. and i'll tell you what happened. we balanced the budget four years in a row. we paid down half a trillion dollars of the debt. those numbers started going down, in times square, they tell me, and we never thought about income inequality or wage growth because we were growing like crazy in america. am exploding with jobs and opportunity. and we reformed the pentagon to make sure that the men and women had what they needed and i was also involved in an effort to say that the services need to worg together. we can't have helicopters crashing in the desert like we
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saw -- much of us saw years ago because the services had not really trained together. we had a $5 million projected sl surplus, jobs were growing and i left. i got back to westerville and one of my buddies said, you know, john, the fact is now that you've left with all your buddies they're going to blow the $5 trillion projected surplus. i said you can't blow $5 trillion. you got to get up every day and think about blowing that. and they did. and they were republicans. in the house and in the senate, in the white house. tell you a little secret. democrats love to spend. but we got one here, nick zimers. he loved to spend when he was in the legislature. but let me tell you something about republicans. they love to spend, they just feel guilty when they do it. so i went out for ten years, and
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then came back in because, you though, when you have certain things you're supposed to do in life -- well, let me just hit the nailn head. i think the lord has made us all unique, made unlike anybody that's ever existed and unlike anybody that's ever going to exist. >> governor john kasich speaking in heath, ohio. he's doing very well with 34% according to the late s fox poll to trump's 29% and cruz's 19%. whether that holds, we'll find out in the next 48 hours. >> we'll be continuing coverage of john kich in ohio as well as all the other candidates throughout the day. that's all for us. thanks for joining us. then - those places change every few months? i think i'll pass... quicksilver from capital one puts nothing in your way.
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hello, everybody. this is a fox news alert. it is full speed ahead on the campaign trail today with only three days to go before what could be the make or break moment in the race for the republican nomination. at this hour we are getting or expecting rallies from four gop candidacy as they gear up for are potentially pivotal primaries coming tuesday. ohio governor john kasich an florida senator marco rubio holding events on their home turf. both hoping their favorite son status will give them some advantage in the highly contested race so far and keep their presidential dreams alive. over the next hour front-runner donald trump will take to the stage in cleveland, ohio. in kansa city, ted cruz

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