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of "the five." "special report" is next. the race for the white house, with the empire state in the rear-view mirror. it's all about the math. for both parties. this is special report. good evening, welcome to washington, i'm bret baier, while both parties' front-runners say the picture is clear tonight of a possible general election campaign between hillary clinton and donald trump, both races are not over. clinton has piled up a huge delegate lead after trouncing senator bernie sanders in tuesday's new york primary. while donald trump and his newly beefed-up campaign team kept their chances alive of avoiding a contested republican convention. we have fox team coverage, ed
henry in philadelphia, where clinton is trying to keep her momentum going ahead of five northeastern primaries next week. but we begin with chief political correspondent carl cameron, as donald trump looks forward on the calendar after a huge victory in his home state. >> it was indeed, brett. the front-runner won big league last night. and now says his rivals can't stop him. >> we had a great night last night in new york. celebrating a new york primary landslide in indiana, donald trump argued it's now all but impossible for texas senator ted cruz and ohio governor john kasich to win a majority of delegates before the convention. trump carried more than 60% of new york's vote last night in all but one of new york's congressional districts for 91 of 95 delegates. kasich got 25 of the statewide vote, he held trump to 50% on two districts. for a total of 4. before flying to florida, to
work convention members, he spoke to the "washington post" on facebook live. >> nobody is going to have enough delegates so we'll end up in a convention where we'll have an open convention. >> cruz got 14% of the vote in new york. and got blanked in the delegate chase, like kasich, his only hope is to block trump from getting 1237 for the nomination before and during the convention. cruz courted the delegates in florida, too. he argued that neither will not reach 1237. >> i'm not going to reach 1237. donald trump is not going to reach 1237. we're going to arrive in cleveland with me having a ton of delegates and with donald having a ton of delegates. at that point it is going to be a battle to see who can earn the support of a majority of the delegates elected by the people. >> but trump has growing momentum. next tuesday several blue northeastern states vote. pennsylvania, maryland, delaware, connecticut and rhode
island, trump comfortably leads all the polls, all five states award delegates proportionally. then comes a string of red states where cruz hopes to slow cruz. trump is playing to win in indiana and knock cruz back further. >> indiana has lost one in five manufacturing jobs since china joined the world trade organization, 2002. ted cruz supports chinese currency cheating. >> trump's new team wants him to take his speeches and campaign to a new level. but has not halted the insults. >> lying ted. lies, he lies. >> indiana votes in two weeks and trump today met with governor mike pence, a sign trump is courting some in the establishment right. he's been attacking for a year and a half. >> the rnc has 168 members and trump continues to trash them for running what he calls a corrupt and rigged system. his new team of restructured washington insiders all skilled in convention tactics and/or
election law are at the same time aggressively trying to work it. bernie sanders is still insisting he has a shot to win the democratic nomination. but hillary clinton is clear in the driver's seat after a much-needed victory in new york. ed henry is with the clinton campaign in philadelphia. >> while her opponent took the day off, hillary clinton today immediately moved on to the next big battleground of pennsylvania. just hours after delivering a near knockout blow to bernie sanders in new york. and coming as close as she ever has to saying the nomination battle that started last april is over. >> the race for the democratic nomination is in the home stretch and victory is in sight. >> while sanders went home to vermont to recharge his batteries. aides saying he will not reassess the campaign until after pennsylvania and the other four contests next tuesday. and the candidate himself sought to discredit clinton's big win when he grumbled about new york's closed primary, barring
sanders-friendly independent voters. >> almost 30% of the eligible voters, some three million new yorkers, were unable to vote today. because they had registered as independents. >> sanders underlying frustration is one of many signs of trouble ahead for democrats unifying in the general election. >> we have seen that it's not enough to diagnose problems, you have to explain how you would actually solve the problems. >> while a clinton aide said to politico in more colorful language that sanders had his butt kicked, adding quote, i hope this convinces bernie to tone it down. if not, bleep him. >> what peeves clinton is sanders' attacks on her wall street ties may be making her negatives worse ahead of november. a new "wall street journal"/nbc news poll found clinton has hit a new record, 56% of voters have somewhat or very negative feelings towards her. 32% have a positive view.
so far, sanders is showing no signs of backing off the attacks. ahead of the democratic convention here in philadelphia, in july, his top aides may in denial about their ability to peel off the votes of party bosses known as superdelegates. >> it is extremely unlikely that either candidate will have the requisite number of pledge delegates to get to this number, right? so it's going to be an election determined by the superdelegates. >> except among all delegates, pledged and super, clinton is now leading sanders 1,930, to 1,189. now what that means is in order to win, bernie sanders has to secure more than 70% of the remaining delegates, which is basically mission impossible. brett? >> ed henry, live in philadelphia, thanks. we wanted to provide a scenario by which the race for 1237, the majority of delegates, we could lay it out for you visually. there are 15 states on the gop side coming up.
currently donald trump has 845 delegates after last night's win. in new york. so we made some estimates, the number of sites have done this. our brain room is doing it. and these are conservative. in other words, it's optimistic for donald trump in a lot of these states. it's not in stone. it could change. obviously. but these are estimates. and projections. on april 26th, rhode island, 19 delegates are up. we give donald trump nine of those delegates. it's going to add up here. connecticut, 28 total. up that day, trump takes 23 in our estimate. delaware, 16 total delegates, donald trump gets all 16 in the state of delaware. in the state of maryland that day, 38 are up for grabs, donald trump in our estimate gets 32 of those. pennsylvania, a big state, 17 total, trump takes all 17 delegates. on pennsylvania. on may 3rd, indiana has 57 delegates up for grabs. ted cruz is expected to win
statewide, if you win above 50%, you could get 30 delegates of the 57, but the rest are done by congressional district, proportional we give donald trump 12 out of those. may 10th, nebraska, 36 total. also expected to be a ted cruz win. all of those going that way. no change to the trump delegates. west virginia, 34 delegates up. donald trump gets 24 of those delegates. in our estimate. in late may, may 17th, oregon has 28, now that's a proportional state. so it favors donald trump, 11 delegates going to him. as he continues to add up. may 24th, washington has 44 delegates, up for grabs, it's proportional also, it favors ted cruz, we give 16 delegates to donald trump. then the final day of contests, the big one, june 7th, first montana, 27 delegates up, it favors ted cruz. no change in delegates here. south dakota, also favors cruz. again no change there.
and then we have new mexico. 24, this is an allocation that's proportional, trump in our estimate gets 10 of those delegates. the big prize, california. 172 delegates up that day. we give donald trump 103 of those. and then new jersey, is winner take all. total of 51 delegates, all 51 to donald trump. you see he has 1,169. not enough, obviously for the majority. 1237. that means he needs 68 delegates to get over the top on the first ballot. get the majority of 1237. now let's talk about the delegates. there are 2,472 total delegates, to the republican national convention. more than 150 of those will be unbound. in other words, they're free agents on the first ballot. in cleveland. so they could vote for anyone. they're not bound to vote for anyone.
the date of the california and the other contests, the last primaries? june 7th. the start of the republican national convention in cleveland? july 18th. that means there are 41 days for donald trump and his campaign to convince 68 of the more than 150 unbound delegates to sign on to vote for him on the first ballot. to get him to 1237. that is one way he gets there in this projection. obviously he doesn't, cleveland becomes a different story. ted cruz and john kasich are banking on that. >> now remember, those are projections. based on the current average of polls. but a lot can change both ways. trump could pick up momentum and get to 1237. before even the end of all of this. and cruz or kasich could get more delegates to stop trump on the first ballot. and as everyone talks about what might happen in cleveland, at
the upcoming gop convention, the last big meeting of republican party movers and shakers before that july convention is taking place right now, in florida. chief washington correspondent james rosen tells us what they're talking about. >> gathered at the plush diplomat hotel in hollywood, florida, the 168 members of the republican national committee, all delegates to the summer convention got no love or at least face time from front-runner donald trump. instead, newly hired trump strategists, rick wiley seen here avoiding reporters was set to hold a reception for party officials, with fellow trump adviser paul mannafort on thursday that cleared the field for texas senator ted cruz, who argued in favor of a contested convention over simply awarding the nomination to the candidate with the most delegates after the voting ends on june 7th. >> why do you think it is that donald is investing so much time saying it is unfair to expect him to earn a majority? the reason is simple, james, you can't earn a majority. he knows he can't earn a majority. >> earlier cruz's campaign
manager jeff roe warned rnc official as trump nomination would mean severe down-ballot losses. >> we came from the grassroots running campaigns in difficult environments or easy environments. state rep, state senate, congressional, statewide. so the interaction between a presidential campaign and the local party is critical. >> ohio governor john kasich was expected to appear later on wednesday evening. rnc chair reince priebus has urged his flock not to use this meeting to recommend substantive changes to the rules. mike duncan is a former rnc chairman who has attended every convention since 1972. >> the chairman has indicated this is a volatile time and taking precipitous action now might lead people to think there's an unfair outcome. i think the chairman is doing the right thing saying wait, the rnc will fulfill its duty. >> peter teamen is a member of the rules committee from florida. >> i think we're going to go with trump and cruz and let's get on with it and let's win in november.
>> making this a volatile time for the gop is not just the specter of a contested convention. after all that's happened before. albeit not in 40 years. but rather the spectacle of the gop front-runner accusing his own party leaders of presiding over a rigged nominating system. and one state party chairman here this week of montana told me he thinks it's time for that rhetoric to end. brett? >> james rosen live in hollywood, florida. republican party officials confirm to fox they are testing electronic floor voting, for the upcoming convention in cleveland. if adopted, it would be used for procedural voting and not for the presidential and vice presidential contests. the senate has overwhelmingly approved its first major energy bill in a decade. the bill boosts renewables such as solar and wind power and speeds up the permit process for liquefied natural gas exports. it must now be reconciled with the house version that promotes fossil fuel, such as oil, coal
and natural gas. two state regulators and a city employee are the first people charged in the flint water crisis and the attorney general says -- there's more to come. correspondent laura engel has details. >> today we are announcing we filed criminal charges in the flint water crisis against three individuals. >> michigan's attorney general bill schutte announced 13 felony and five misdemeanor charges in the long-running case, which could bring those accused four to five years in prison if convicted. some of the most damaging accusations are against michael prysby, a michigan department of environmental quality official and steven bush, a former department of environmental quality district coordinator. investigators say both men allegedly tampered with evidence of lead levels on certain water samples in homes of residents of flint, after the lead contamination occurred. the two are also accused of refusing to treat river water with controlled corrosion chemicals which allowed lead to
leak from aging pipes and contaminate tap water for 18 months. >> they had a duty to protect the health of families, and citizens of flint. they failed. >> flint's laboratory and water quality supervisor, mike glascow is accused of tampering with evidence when he allegedly changed test results to show there was less lead in city water than there actually was. >> i have friends, personal close friends -- they live here. they they look me, they wonder if there's any truth to this investigation. >> michigan's governor, rick snyder, held a press conference late this afternoon saying if these accusations are true, this would take this case to a whole new level. >> one of the things we clearly want to pursue is the truth. the citizens of michigan deserve it, the citizens of flint deserve it. >> the attorney general adding
these charges are only the beginning. and there will be more to come. brett? >> laura, thank you. up next, are you risking your family's lives by going to a shopping mall or restaurant? we'll explain what the federal authorities are doing on this front. first, what some fox affiliates around the country are could having tonight. fox 55 in springfield, illinois where a state audit finds nearly $4 million was lost on anti-violence programs, by former governor pat quinn. the audit found problems with how grant recipients were chosen, how contracts were written and how spending was monitored. fox 12 in portland, as oregon reports nearly $7 million in tax revenue from legal marijuana sales in the first quarter of the year. each sale of recreational pot is subject to a 25% tax. and a live look at los angeles, sunny los angeles, from fox 11, one of the big stories there tonight, delays in getting body cameras to police officers. only about 700 are currently in
uncovered another drug tunnel that goes under the mexican border. it's the third such passageway to be found in the region in recent weeks. agents were tipped off to a home under construction and watched as trucks began showing up to ferry drugs from a tunnel under a restaurant in mexicali. as the terrorist threat evolves, federal authorities are concerned about the possibility that terrorists could go after you not just where you work or live, but where you shop and play. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge has specifics. >> from a concert hall to the restaurants of paris where a coordinated terrorist assault killed 130 people to the recent airport and subway plots in brussels where another 32 were murdered, public spaces are the new focus for al qaeda and isis. >> with soft targets you can still get the type of impact you're looking for from a terrorist perspective that is mass casualties and psychological impact. >> with heavy security around capitol hill and the white house, the fbi, homeland
security and d.c. police recently held a briefing for local restaurant and bar owners. federal agents said there was no credible threat, but showed owners terrorist propaganda calling for attacks on crowded venues. >> it's obviously very sobering. it could scare the hell out of anybody. >> bar owner duggan said the feds urged businesses to meet with their employees, and evacuate strategy and provide for plans. >> people think about this every day. and we've been insulated for so long, that yeah, think the realities of the rest of the world are possibly coming home to us. >> a former c.i.a. intelligence officer says every plot requires advanced surveillance of the target and an alert staff can go a long way to disrupting terrorist operatives. >> if someone speaks with a bartender or waiter and is asking a lot of questions, do you have military personnel coming here, where are you most crowded? these are the type of questions they will ask.
they will be very aggressive. >> one lawmaker who gets regular classified briefings said the terrorist threat to soft targets goes beyond the nation's capital. >> their capacity to have free spaces in the middle east in which to plan and plot and free spaces within europe presents risk level that i've not seen here in the united states and around the world in my time in service on the committee. >> for restaurant and bar owners, there's a tough balancing act between security and hospitality in the new normal. a magnitude 6.1 aftershock rattled ecuador before dawn this morning, the most severe since the 7.8-magnitude quake over the weekend. the official death toll from that is now 553. at least 11 foreigners are among the dead. president obama tries to smooth things over with the king of saudi arabia. we'll get a live report next.
president obama's trip to saudi arabia ends tomorrow. correspondent kevin corke is live tonight in riyadh, where it's a little before 1:30 thursday morning and president may be counting the hours until air force one lifts off. hello, kevin. >> that's one way to look at it. clearly this is a tough spot for the president. he finds himself wedged in a bit of a spot here on the one hand he's dealing with 9/11 victims family who is want to sue the saudi government. and he's also concerned, obviously that that could end up having the u.s. facing similar measures all over the globe. and it's that to say nothing of the added pressure on a very difficult relationship with a very key ally here in the region. that's just part of what is fraying this once very strong relationship between two long-time allies. the president also looking at a number of other issues, including you may have heard him call the saudis security free riders. he's made that point once again and that's obviously driving a
bit of a wedge between the two countries. then there's the perceived turn towards tehran, thanks to the iran nuclear deal there are disagreements, brett, over the pace of the fight against isis in syria in particular and of course the now infamous 28 pages from the congressional 9/11 report. while that topic did not come up today between the leaders, it remains on the minds of many like texas senator john cornyn, who believes even if the pages implicate the saudis notice attacks, the american people have a right to know. >> my attitude is let the chips fall where they may, let's bring just toys the victims and families of the 9/11 families and deter to the extent we can terrorist attacks on our own soil. >> now as i mentioned, that report didn't make the cut in today's two-hour-long conversation between the two leaders. instead the men focused on another pressuring issue, what to do about the growing threat from iran. defense secretary ash carter stressed despite the president's
push for the iran nuclear deal, the u.s. is not pivoting towards tehr tehran. >> on iran i noted that the united states shares with our gcc partners, the view that even as the nuclear accord verifiably prevents iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon, there are many more issues to be concerned with regarding iran's behavior in the region. >> a big understatement there. now there are critics, brett, who feel like the president is simply pushing the saudis in too many different directions all at once. but that is a position that he rejects. >> our interactions with them around counterterrorism issues has been vital. i think they've been cooperative in trying to stabilize a region that's going through tumultuous times. >> now the president will try to wrap things up with glan lar discussions on security cooperation at the gcc summit that's scheduled to take place later today here, thursday, in riyadh. brett? >> kevin corke traveling with
the president in riyadh, saudi arabia. as the president and congress stage a battle over legislation that could allow familiar list of 9/11 victims to take legal action against saudi arabia, the supreme court has upheld a judgment awarding nearly $2 billion to families of those killed by iranian-sponsored terrorism. chief legal correspondent shannon bream is here to tell us what that means. >> it's time for iran to pay up, at the bottom of the the 6-2 opinion of the supreme court. >> 241 american service members have been fighting to collect damages. after it was discovered, iran's central bank had assets in new york city, congress passed a law making it easier for the victims to collect those funds. iran's central bank countered that the legislative branch had no right to get involved in judicial matters. today if an opinion offered by
justice ruth bader ginsberg the court said by altering the law governing the attachment of particular property belonging to iran, congress acted comfortably within the political branches authority over foreign sovereign immunity and foreign state assets. >> this is the leading state sponsor of terrorism who has denied compensation to these victims for years. at the same time that it's going to be receiving over $100 billion in oil money, returned as part of the iran nuclear agreement. >> in his dissent, which justice sotomayor joined, chief justice john roberts said no less than if it had passed a law saying respondents win, congress has decided this case by enacting a bespoke statute tailored to this case that resolves the parties. >> the terror attacks on this case were committed on foreign soil. current law makes it difficult for americans to sue for terrorist attacks they allege are committed by foreign states on u.s. soil. that has led to this debate over legislation that would enable 9/11 victims and their families
to sue saudi arabia based on links those parties say show a direct tie between the 9/11 attacks and saudi officials. brett? >> we'll continue to follow that. shannon, thank you. another topic that may be headed to the supreme court, federal court has ruled in favor of a transgendered teen in the dispute over public bathroom. we will follow that story and give you the latest. for the first time in 100 years, there will be a woman on u.s. paper currency. the treasury department said 19th century abolitionist harriet tubman will replace andrew jackson on the $20 bill. that decision means the treasury will keep alexander hamilton on the $10 bill. stocks were up, the dow gained 43. the s&p 500 finished ahead 2, the nasdaq was up 8. donald trump and hillary clinton win big in new york. we'll talk about what this means for the presidential races, when the panel joins me after a break.
the people of new york, when they give us this kind of a vote, and it's, just incredible. and i guess we're close to 70% and we're going to end at a very high level and get a lot more delegates than anybody projected, even in their wildest imagination. >> i understand we won manhattan. manhattan island. that's about as cool as it gets. but it sure demonstrates, we basically crushed cruz. so it demonstrates that as we move to this part of the campaign that we're more viable. >> let me tell you what donald and the media want to convince everyone. that pennsylvania is a suburb of manhattan. manhattan has spoken and pennsylvania, we're quietly file into obedience. i've got a lot more faith in the
people of pennsylvania. >> ted cruz in pennsylvania making that comment. here's a look at the new york results last night. and this was as of almost everybody in the precincts. and there you see donald trump as he mentioned. a big win there. but the delegate count is really what matters now and we kind of went through it before. that's the delegate count as of tonight. as you look towards the next big states. one of them being pennsylvania, the real clear politics average of polls has donald trump up. just to be clear about pennsylvania. there are 71 delegates up in pennsylvania. i mentioned on the board that 17 was the number because 17 are really the only delegates that are being voted on that night. 54 delegates in pennsylvania are those unbound delegates that i talked about at the end of that presentation. so let's bring in our panel. jonah goldberg, senior editor, that's charley hurt. we went backwards, charles hurt. welcome.
political columnist, for the "washington times." then we have a.b. stoddard, social editor of "the hill" and jonah goldberg, senior editor of the "national review." charles isn't here, it all falls apart. jonah, your thought on where we stand and kind of the math? >> yeah, so it was obviously not only just a good night for donald trump, it was a better-than-expected night for donald trump. he got you know, five, ten more delegates than anyone thought he was going to expected him to get. that's good for him. at the same time, he's really not that much closer to 1237, according to most forecasts, because this victory was priced in. as is basically the pennsylvania, and most of the northeast corridor contests are priced in to almost everybody's forecast for what he needs to go forward. and that's why everyone is looking at indiana. indiana, if ted cruz wins it, very difficult if not
impossible. for donald trump to get to 1237. if donald trump wins it, he's on not quite a glide path, but a much more comfortable path to 1237. i do just want to say that i am, i'm personally outraged that the way the system is rigged. that donald trump only got 60% of the popular vote, but he gets 90% of the delegates. that's a lot of people whose votes were just simply canceled out. i thought we believed in democracy. >> jonah is tongue in cheek. but donald trump is making the case again and again, they're seeing a lot of response from this, a.b. where he's talking about the system being rigged. the tough part is it takes a while to explain. the delegate system has been around for a long time. they have precinct conventions, county conventions, state conventions to elect delegates. the people on the floor in cleveland and it's complex. >> right. and trump never tells his supporters, when he talks about how rigged it is, that it's rigged in his favor, actually. that he has 46% of the delegates now and as of this morning, 38%
of the share of the vote. you're right, brett, when we sit here and look at delegate trackers all day, we can say well if there's, if this happens in pennsylvania, this happens in delaware, but really, it's what's going on behind the scenes with delegates who are being chosen at these conventions who they're being approached by, how they're being approached and what they're willing to commit to. also rules for the convention from past years don't hold from past cycles. may not hold up in this at this convention. rules for this convention will be decided weeks, if not in late june. two months from now. and so we're grasping at straws here until and until we see donald trump with 1237 on june 7th or before. if i were his campaign manager i couldn't promise him he's on the glide path. he's best-positioned, it's very likely he wins it outright. but it's the wild west if we're sitting here months if now and
we find out the whole thing exploded, i won't be surprised. >> on that map that i did earlier, the reason we did donald trump, charlie is because it's all about whether he gets there or doesn't. all about first ballot. because now mathematically ted cruz cannot get to 1237 on the first ballot. neither could and neither can. john kasich. >> and i think that that is a very major thing that came out of last night. ted cruz passed the rubicorubic is mathematically impossible for him to get to 1237. a month oolg he was using the argument for why john kasich should get out. it was at that point mathematically impossible for him to win it i don't think that ted cruz is going to follow his own advice at this point. but i think that you know, what donald trump is really kind of doing right now, is he is setting up the negotiations for the fight between june 7th and
july 18th and he knows he's a master salesman. he knows if the republicans are talking about convention rules and talking about all this, the unbound and bound and all this stuff, people hate it. they don't want to hear about it. it makes him mad. because it seems, it sounds rigged. when you, when you even when you give a legitimate explanation of what's going on. smartly i think, even if you don't particularly like it, what he's doing is he is sort of setting up the field for either we can be talking about this or we can be talking about all the issues that i have raised, that we wouldn't be talking about if it weren't for me. and those are winning issues i think for republicans. and so by giving them the choice between those two conversations, he's hoping that the republicans will say, let's talk about illegal immigration and terrorism. >> so the pitch in those 41 days, ted cruz is obviously working this delegate system
really effectively state to state. he's got people who are on trump-bound ballots on the first ballot. who could be cruz people on the second ballot. he's got it in the mix. >> what's the pitch trump makes to the delegates as charlie talks about in those 41 days, that gets 68 of them in our scenario to come over. >> have you ever seen the rooms at the mara-laggo hotel? they're beautiful, the best in the world. when donald trump was saying how he doesn't want to bribe delegates and he doesn't think that's right. he was basically reading off a menu of the things he said he was going to offer the delegates, at the end of the day there's going to be a no holds barred fight delegate by delegate, what do you want, whatky give you? even though i don't think trump helped himself that much in new york. i think ted cruz hurt himself. he did so badly. it's much more difficult for ted cruz to say i should get all the delegates and i should win on
the second ballot. if he hasn't had a lot of wins. >> if it's tough for ted cruz, how tough if for john kasich. >> he's like the black knight in monty python. he gets his arm cut off and it's a flesh wound. he makes no sense whatsoever. if donald trump doesn't unify the party and ted cruz can't, then you've got a big problem. >> i think that the problem again is you're persuadable for trump or you're not. he's going to find the delegate who is are persuadable. so much of the party won't be persuaded. they'll be double agents, if they turn on him on the second ballot. >> that is the case that the people voted for me, i have the most votes, the most states, head together convention. you need to do this for the good of the party. >> that's a very persuasive argument and reince priebus, the head of the party says, those people are not going to break the rules if they change them in
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the requisite number of pledged delegates to get to this number. so it's going to be an election determined by the super delegates. >> i find that odd because a few months ago the sanders campaign was decrying super delegates, saying they are undemocratic now they are presenting super delegates as their path to victory. i'm not concerned. i don't know what the rationale is for all these super delegates to suddenly support senator sanders. >> two campaigns on the democratic side hillary clinton and bernie sanders weighing in there. as you look at the results from new york last night. a big win for hillary clinton in her adopted home state. a 8% of the vote. as you take a look at the democratic delegate math, and you heard about the super delegates. and can you see how big a factor that is for hillary clinton in the math here. and looking ahead to one of the big states coming up, pennsylvania. here's the real clear politics average of polls as of today. we're back with the panel charlie, you heard hillary
clinton saying she can see the end of this race for the first time kind of projecting wrapping up this nomination. >> yeah. i generally think that, you know, tough primary fight makes better general election candidates. makes them stronger. it gets through a lot of issues. i think that hillary clinton, for example, made barack obama a better general election candidate 8 years ago. but bernie sanders is hurting her now. and it's gone on a long time. and it's revealed just how much democrats don't like hillary clinton. he is soaking up massive amounts of money. and he is very much pushing her in the -- on substantive issues very far to the left. she is going to have to stick with that stuff in the general election. the stuff about guns and stuff like that. this stuff is going to hurt her. and so i think that she needs to hurry up and put this thing to bed. and, obviously she went a long ways with that last night. but at this point bernie has no reason to get out.
that's a real problem for her. >> what's interesting, a.b., a lot of people are looking at the words that bernie sanders uses in this next week, next few days ahead of the next contest whether he ask as pointed as he has been in recent days. >> look, they know they can talk about the math, the clinton campaign and how it is over for him. he has got her down nationally. she has lost 30 point lead. it's down to 2 points in some polling her negativity. her disapproval, favorability ratings are absolutely awful. and getting worse with every single group. what bernie is doing questioning by spending hillary victory fund joint fundraising committee that she arranged with the dnc and with the state parties this week that with 14 donors alone, raised 5 million, has raised 33 million since january. it's funneling the most money of all of that back to
the hillary clinton complain is telling his supporters the system is rigged. if he continues to do that, she is going to have a big problem with the sanders people in the fall. >> the clinton campaign makes it a pretty strong point about super delegates and where is this title wave of establishment figures going from hillary clinton to bernie sanders. >> yeah, the only thing i can think of when robby says that what is the rationale for the super delegates to switch. it's something completely out of, as far as i can tell, bernie sanders hands which is what we have been calling the fbi primary. if hillary clinton is indicted, you could see a lot of these career politicians who make up most of the super delegates saying, you know, we can't touch this. >> is that the reason he's essentially staying in? >> my ability, despite my shared ethnicity with bernie sanders of reading socialist guy from vermont's mind is limited. but i think, no, i think he has got all cards. he has incredible power over the party. he has got this movement that is energizing him. he is living off the land
and raising enormous amount of money. he actually is a true believer. i think all of those things and there is a bit of a hail as long as he is still running and if hillary clinton is indicted and we can all grade on how probable that is very difficult to put john kerry or joe biden or any of those people in this place she gets the nomination if that happens. >> even if the fbi recommends indictment and doj doesn't move forward with it? >> who knows. then it's a fight, right? >> panel, thank you. that's it for the panel. stay tuned for your voice through our contender's app.
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instead of focusing on the bad guys. we need to focus on radical islamic terrorists and we need to stop them before they carry out acts of terror. that statement belongs to texas senator ted cruz winning for the third week in a row. panelists a couple of you took the quiz. charlie, who did you get? >> ted cruz. >> wow. just a shaking head. john? >> i got ted cruz with a nodding head. >> you seem a little happier about that. >> actually, hillary clinton was my second, which caused my phone to burst into flames. >> thank you for inviting us into your home tonight. that's it for this "special report." fair, balanced and unafraid. here comes greta. "special report" online >> it is thursday april 21st. battle for the east. the presidential candidates look at the next five contests. a firestorm over convention
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with us. nice to have you as well. donald trump urging his rivals to call it quits because it is mathematically impossible for them to win. >> ted cruz and john kasich not going anywhere any time soon. garrett tenney is following the latest developments. >> good morning. we are seeing two strategies play out on the republican side. for donald trump he has a shot to win the nomination out right. he is hitting the campaign trail hard to pick up every delegate he can to do it. 172 delegates are you be for grabs across the northeast. yesterday trump was in maryland making his case for the voters. >> we have a lot of great places. delaware has a lot of great -- oh, who is from delaware? we love delaware. a new poll came out for delaware. i am over 50. it must be because i have so many businesses