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not be a pol trun when writing to the "factor." again, thanks for writing to us. please always remember the spin stops right here. we're definitely looking out for you. breaking tonight. senator ted cruz of texas may be facing his very own alamo, as he and donald trump go all in over a prize that could finally decide who is the republican nominee for president. welcome to "the kelly file," everyone. i'm megyn kelly. the cruz campaign firing up supporters in indiana today with a big announcement, confirming that senator cruz has carly fiorina as his choice for a running mate. >> today i am very proud and very humbled and honored to announce that i have accepted senator ted cruz's offer to be his vice president for the republican nomination.
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>> ms. fiorina will be joining us later this hour for her very first prime-time interview since the announcement today. and the stakes for her team could not be any higher. trump is holding a slight lead in the real clear politics of all polls from the state of indiana. if cruz does not win the 57 delegates up for grabs in less than a week there, the political analysts are saying donald trump will effectively become the republican nominee for president. we're speaking tonight with former romney campaign strategist stuart stevens and trump adviser senator jeff sessions. we'll go live as well to indiana and hear right from the voters when pollster frank luntz joins us with his folk is group. there they are. first let's speak behind the man with the alamo aanalogy tom blevin. tom, why do you say that? explain the stakes for cruz in indiana. >> well, he was mathematically eliminated last night, megyn. this is it. >> meaning he can't get to 1237
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just by votingers pry to june 7 >> correct. and so really if you do the math and you look at the contest from here on out, the only realistic chance of stopping donald trump from getting to that 1237 number is cruz winng in indiana next tuesday. and he's within striking ze ini distance but that might not be enough. but it all starts next week. if cruz cannot beat trump in indiana, it's good to be over. i think trump will easily get to 1237. >> how does indiana decide, is it wairn take all? >> it's three per congressional districts, nine districts so 27 that way. and also then 30 for the winner whoever wins statewide. it's really important that ted cruz wins statewide and wins as many districts as he can and takes the lion's share of those votes if not sweeps them all. that's best case scenario for him obviously. >> he's doing everything he can. he has an alliance with kasich in which kasich basically pulled
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out all of his resources out of indiana and left it to cruz and trump. how does he look there, cruz, right now? last poll showed trump up i think eight points in indiana. >> yeah. fox news poll that came out, we had three polls came out the middle of last week, and they had trump on average up six points, 39-33. and we're dying for some new numbers to see because this pact was announced on sunday. so we don't know. in that fox news poll, interestingly, though, they did -- you guys did a matchup just trump against cruz without kasich. that was two points, 46-44. one of the other problems, megyn, is that people have been able to early vote in indiana since the beginning of the first week of the month. more than 140,000 votes have been cast, about 68% of those republican. a lot of those folks or at least some of the folks have already cast their vote for john kasich. so if this race comes down to a few thousand votes that could be
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a deciding factor. >> obviously trump has the momentum with his five-state sweep last night and new york state the week before. but a lot of people say that indiana is more tailor made for cruz than trump. what say you? >> i say it's pretty evenly divided. certainly without question it is better suited for ted cruz than any of the states he's had since wisconsin. but even then, though, trump is splitting evangelicals in the state. cruz is winning among the more conservative self-identified more conservative voters. but it's neck in neck there i think. and again, momentum and context matters so we'll see if we get new numbers hopefully in the next 24, 48 hours how that plays into where this thing is headed next tuesday. >> you've got to check out real clear politics.com. they put the numbers together and explain them. great to see you, tom. >> thanks.
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>> joining me now stuart stevens former mitt romney strategist and author of "the innocent have nothing to fear." stuart, good to see you. >> thank you. >> it is -- indiana is a make or break state for ted cruz. he cannot lose there, correct? >> i agree with that. i think psychologically it's important numerically it's important. you put them together and it's the big each lanchilada for him >> if the never trump movement understands that, what did they do to make indiana like wisconsin but it doesn't have the talk radio to sort of make those inroads. they don't have a governor yet endorsing cruz. how do they make indiana look like wisconsin? >> you know, i think the question that i would try to pose is who can best represent the values of indiana? who is someone you would vote for if they were running for governor of the state of indiana? to me, that matchup is something that ted cruz wins. i mean, he's just someone you
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could see more likely to win a republican primary for governor in the state of indiana than donald trump. i would try to localize it to bring it back to who would make you most proud to represent our state? that, to me, i think is something that when it exists in these races donald trump doesn't do as well in certain states. when it doesn't, when it's missing, it seems to play to his favor. it wasn't there in south carolina. it was there in iowa. you look at these states that just voted yesterday. these are states that you could pretty well imagine donald trump getting elected governor in easily. i think that's less true for indiana. but conversely, if he pulls out a win, if trump can win in indiana, i think it will be significant. >> what do you make of the trump we've been seeing over the past few days? because originally the reports
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wur trump was going to be more presidential. and then it was kind of like, i don't want to. i want to just be me. it's worked for me so far. then last night he took a shot at hillary clinton suggesting if she were a man she'd have 5% in the polls which has caused some controversy. >> right. i think we should step out of politics and look at our experience in life. if all of us had a friend who was marrying a 69-year-old man and there were a lot of things you didn't like about him but he said he was going to change, i think our advice to that person would be, you better like what you're getting because the odds that someone at 69 years old is going to change is not great. donald trump is not going to change. he is who he is. you have to like what you're getting. just the idea that you can get different advisers that can help him tactically. i think paul manafort has helped tremendously. >> appears to have been pushed off a little to the side. >> well, campaign struggles.
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you have one culture that's existed in that campaign. >> but he was the one who was trying to sort of get trump in line, like you can do this thing, and then trump or the campaign just said, that's not going to work for us. we're going to do what we've been doing. those are the reports. >> here's the push and the pull. they say, we've been successful because we're winning the republican primary. that's true. you are winning a republican y prima primary. but you're getting crushed in a general election with the highest negatives recorded since we've started tracking these things. that's not success. >> you know, brit hume once told me when you get older your give a blank meter just changes. he didn't say blank, but fill it in. it changes. you get more honest and you just -- anyway, stuart, great to see you. >> good to see you. >> joining us with his thoughts on that, republican senator jeff sessions of alabama who is chair of the trump national security advisory team. great to see you, senator. let's start with stuart's last point because i actually just looked into that.
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it is true that trump has the highest negatives for a gop front-runner since the beginning of tracking, since they started tracking that kind of thing back in the '70s. so does he need to do something a little different at this point? >> well, you know, he's been himself. he's been frank. and his vote totals continue to rise. he's had tremendous victories carrying every county in five states. i don't think i've seen something like that in years. >> but stuart's point is it's the primary he's killing it. you have to look at the general at this point. >> he's been subjected to incredible negative advertising for months and months and months and it's really not working. 's getting stronger. i think he'll continue to get stronger. and as more people realize what he's doing, he's defending american working people, he's going to fix and fight back against unfair trade policies,'s going to make sure we have a foreign policy that serves the
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national interest, he's going to end illegal immigration. he's going to fix this border. and he's going to protect american jobs. that's what people have been asking for. that's the kind of leadership they want. that's what the republican establishment has refused to give. so this next election is going to be a big deal, and indiana people are going to vote. not politicians. not the establishment. they're going to decide who wins indiana and who becomes the next president. it's going to be the american people. he's doing pretty well right now. >> trump had a big night here in the northeast last night, a five-state sweep with big margins. today ted cruz who is not a dumb man. everyone can agree ted cruz is smart, announced a running mate. he doesn't have the nomination yet but announced the running mate carly fiorina who will be with us exclusively here in a moment. what do you make of that move and the selection of carly fiorina? >> well, i think it's a very unusual and surprising move, but i guess when you're behind and
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you're facing a critical election like indiana and you've got to maneuver with kasich to try to beat trump and block the people's choice so far, then this is desh's going to make a try. maybe it's a desperate move. maybe it will work. it will be decided by the people of indiana. >> what do you think of her? it neutralizes -- i guess the thinking is she helps neutralize the gender history that would be made on the other side. >> you know, megyn, i don't know how to figure all of that. people have their own perspectives. i would just say that right now it does appear trump is doing well in indiana. it will be a big election coming up next week. and we'll see how it comes out. >> senator, great to see you. thanks for being here. >> thank you. >> so the folks that could decide it all, as you may have gathered, are the voters in indiana. up next, we will go live to indianapolis where frank luntz will poll those voters. there they are! on what they're going to do next tuesday.
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plus, new reports suggest that senator marco rubio may play a surprise role before this is all done. and dana perino and chris stirewalt are here on that. and then carly fiorina was the big story today. there she is live, and we'll have her in moments for a prime-time exclusive. stay tuned. >> she is someone you can be confident in if the occasion should arise to be commander in chief and keep this country safe. [vet] two yearly physicals down.
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breaking tonight. in just the last 24 hours, we have seen reports that the cruz and trump campaigns along with various political action groups have committed to spending more than $4 million on political advertising just this week in indiana. the vote's on tuesday. and you can bet that number is going to grow. tonight we're going live to a special frank luntz focus group to hear what the voters in indiana think about these candidates and the critical role that now falls to them. frank, take it away. >> reporter: megyn, they're excited to be here and they're excited to be the decision makers. first question for you all, you're aware obviously of the kasich/cruz pact, correct? by a show of hands, how many of
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you are bothered by it? that's an awful lot of people. what's the problem? >> it's backroom deals. they don't really care about what's going on with us, the voters. >> but isn't it just like what politicians do to help themselves get elected? >> that's why we don't want them. >> jessica? >> if he were going to do this, they should have done it a long time ago. if they were really going to stop him, it's way past time. >> it looks desperate. >> how does it look desperate? >> again, they should have done it a long time ago. now it looks like they're just grasping at straws. >> in the back? >> we're supposed to be the republican party and the two on the team are coding against him to knock him out? what's with that? >> against the will of the voters, in my opinion. >> that's pretty strong. do you think they don't care about you? do you think the candidates care about you? >> no. they care about themselves. >> but they've been campaigning and they've been spending money and they've been engaged and
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they all were here today. you don't think they care about you? >> you have to take out of consideration what these men have done in the past from their time fighting for the constitution, fighting against obamacare, fighting against amnesty. you have to negate all of that to say they don't care about us. they took on the entire washington establishment for us. for the last several years. >> but if everyone is fighting and fighting and fighting, then we find that nothing gets done. so that's one of my fears, that if we get someone in there that cannot get along with anyone, then we're going to end up with the dysfunction we have right now. >> who do you fear the most that can't get along? >> ted cruz. >> go ahead. >> donald trump knows how to make a deal, and he's talked about compromise. that's just the way you have to did it. we've watched cruz do nothing. we've watched kasich side with the we want someone to represent us. trump will do it. >> kasich was in the bill
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clinton white house. i mean, he -- gosh. >> as a member of congress -- >> he as a member of congress, he balanced a budget under bill clinton. they were in a $5 billion surplus. that's something that cruz has not done. he has not worked with obama. in ohio as governor, he has dropped unemployment. >> we're not doing a campaign commercial here. parker, how old are you? >> i'm 19 years old. >> this is your first vote. >> it is. >> who are you going to cast it for? >> i'm for ted cruz. >> why? >> because i feel like he's the most consistently conservative candidate out of the group. >> so just ideology. >> yes. >> he is the only constitutional conservative running. >> you shouldn't go with anyone else. >> he is the only constitutional conservative running. >> i have to ask all of you, who have changed your minds in the last two weeks? that tells us where things are going. what did you go from? >> i switched from kasich being
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my number one to probably leaning trump because kasich decided not do come to any campaign as if we're not important. he and cruz have combined together for each other's benefit, not for ours. >> but he did that for you to support cruz here. >> i was not going to support cruz. >> who else switched? why? >> i switched from kasich to trump because kasich/cruz have proven they can't win a national election. >> who else switched? why? >> cruz doesn't tell it like it is. i think he's lying to me when he's talking to me. that's how i feel as a person and a voter. >> so when donald trump uses the phrase "lyin' ted" -- >> i believe it. >> you believe it. that doesn't bother you? >> what has ted cruz lied about again? >> let's start with iowa when he fold everybody all of the supporters that he's going home to florida and then he ends up winning iowa, he has never apologized for that. i mean, come on. no, he hasn't!
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>> was there proof that he -- >> hold on, hold on. >> was there proof -- >> this sind iis indiana. indiana is respectful. >> there was never proof he had any fault in that. >> it came from his campaign. if he's a leader he has to take responsibility. the buck stops with the leader. >> do you guys agree with that? go ahead. >> here's the thing. he did apologize. if you watched the debates -- >> no, he didn't. >> in the back, i don't want this battle over iowa because we're in indiana. but i want to make this point, meg megyn, which is, even though we are moving towards the final decision of who is going to be the nominee that they are more divided than in most focus groups i have done. there is more animosity and i'm wondering whether these people are going to come together. are you going to support the nominee? >> yes. >> you are. >> no. >> there's no issue there? >> no. >> who's the most electable of the three?
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which is more likely to defeat hillary clinton? >> donald trump. >> how many of you say trump? now, you know that trump is not doing as well in the polls as either cruz or kasich so why do you think trump is most likely to win? >> i think that the media has sabotaged trump. i think they've ran lots of negative ads on him and they've made him into something that he really isn't. he's not establishment. that's what i like about him. >> partly going along with what she said, i went to a rally with trump in ohio. and they talked about all of the protesters there, it was very respectful. i went to the greta show tonight. all professional people. i went to the rally last wednesday. again, it was all professional and it was young, old, black, white. but the media is portraying a certain type of blue collar, uneducated voter that goes to the trump rallies. that's not the case. >> how many of you think the media is against trump? on that we all agree. >> no.
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no, i disagree. i firmly disagree. >> go ahead. >> certainly fox news i think gives him more time than any other candidate. >> what about cnn? >> it's ratings. >> he's good tv. >> it's all about ratings. >> the reason trump can do it, trump is the toughest guy. that's why he can beat hillary. he's the toughest of the candidates. ted cruz is a nice guy, but we don't need any more nice guys in the white house. we need a tough guy, someone not afraid to say what they think. >> go ahead, angela. >> trump is winning and i think the main thing is, how can we expect cruz or kasich to win when they can't even beat trump? they have to beat the primaries. how can they beat hillary? >> numerous conservative pundits out there have said that hillary will beat trump. and there's -- >> one of the things that we believe here in indiana is in hoosier values and hoosier hospitality.
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at the end of the day we're all going to walk out of this room and we've got to decide what we're going to do with ourselves, whether we'll walk out as friends or enemies. we're fighting against the same people. that's why i love cruz. he recognizes that. >> absolutely. >> so carly fiorina is coming up. i want a one-word phrase to describe her. >> inexperienced. >> fierce. >> tough. >> irrelevant. >> accomplished. >> sharp. >> strong. >> outsourcer. >> brilliant. >> who's got a favorable impression of her? most of you. wow like her to be the vp? >> yes. >> no. >> how many of you would like her to be the vp? >> absolutely. >> tell me why very quickly. >> i think she's a consistent conservative and i think she's a fighter and i think she will be able to take down a lot of hillary clinton's attacks as well as donald trump's attacks. >> rebecca? >> i like her because it seemed like she really had her finger on what was going on in the middle east whenever they brought up any kind of -- any talking pointss she knew what was going on. >> final question, how many of
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you believe that the republican nominee is going to be defeat hilalary clinton in the fall? raise your hands. who believes hillary clinton will be the next president. clearly most of you aren't reading the polls today. megyn, it's a tough group. they know it matters. it's a tough time. emotions are pretty high. but i like what seth said right there, which is i do believe when this is done they're going to walk out friends, they're going to walk out allies and they're going to back whoever the nominee is. >> good for them. responsible citizens. they've got a lot to weigh. thank you all so much. frank, thank you, too. breaking tonight, she is the first vice presidential pick of 2016. you can hear the voters in indiana love carly fiorina. she will be here right after this break, live on "the kelly file". plus, new fallout after donald trump goes after hillary clinton. we'll show you what has happened after this. >> frankly, if hilalary clinton were a man, i don't think she'd were a man, i don't think she'd get 5% of the vote.here's the p.
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ticket with the former gop candidate carly fiorina. cruz made the big reveal this afternoon to cheers and applause from his indianapolis supporters. but it was carly fiorina who stole the show, rounding out the event with a widely praised acceptance speech. her message? watch. >> this, this is the fight of our time. and i believe ted cruz is the man to lead that fight. and i am prepared to stand by his side and give this everything i have to restore the soul of our party, to defeat donald trump, to defeat hillary clinton, and to take our country back. >> joining me now, republican vice presidential candidate and the first vice presidential pick of 2016 carly fiorina. carly, great to see you again. >> thanks for being with me. >> you know this is odd because
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cruz doesn't yet have the nomination. and as you pointed out earlier, this whole election has been odd. but what do you say to those like trump who say it was a desperation play by senator cruz? >> well, of course donald trump would say that. donald trump has been trying to say that ted cruz should get out of the race for a very long time. the only thing is donald trump hasn't won this nomination yet, despite so many people in the media just wishing it would all be over and he would be our nominee. but as i said in my speech, i do think this is about the soul of our party and the future of our nation. donald trump and hillary clinton are virtually indistinguishable in their positions. they are virtually indistinguishable in the fact that they have always been insiders to this corrupt system of crony capitalism and selling access and influence. and he cannot be our nominee. and if he were to be our nominee, hillary clinton would be our president, and that is a future that i'm not prepared to lay by and allow to have happen.
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>> you know that the polls show, including last night, that some 70% of voters in these states say the one who goes into that convention with the most votes and the most delegates should be the nominee even if he doesn't have a majority. what are they missing? >> well, first of all, i would say that a majority of republican voters don't want donald trump to be their nominee. and 1,237 delegates represents the majority of the delegates in that convention. so if you can't win 1,237 delegates, then you don't have the majority of your party and you can't win. of course, as for john kasich, you can't lose 49 out of 50 times and win. but ted cruz has beaten donald trump many times. donald trump had a good night last night. absolutely he had a good night the week before. absolutely. but this isn't over until someone reaches 1,237. and donald trump hasn't and, no,
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close doesn't count. and i believe ted cruz will be our nominee. >> how ke can he be the nominee when the party isn't coalescing behind him either? you look at the numbers here in the northeast, primaries last night. he failed to break 25% in these states. so his critics say even if they don't love trump, cruz isn't getting the party either. >> well, you know, actually, the party is unifying behind cruz if you look at the endorsements that he has received. i think there will be more endorsements coming. if you have the endorsements of everyone from mike lee and scott walker to jeb bush and lindsey graham, that's a pretty broad spectrum of the republican party. what is also true is the majority of republican voters don't want donald trump as their nominee. and the thing is, donald trunnell p tends to win in open primaries, but he tends to lose in closed primaries. and i thought it was republicans' job to elect our nominee. i think the point of today's announcement is to make crystal
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clear what the choice is. on the one hand you have cruz and fiorina, two proven conservatives, two proven fighters who actually know what this fight is about, our jobs, our prosperity, the possibilities and potential of our nation, our liberties and our security. oernld r on the other ha on the other hand, you have donald trump and hillary clinton who are two sides of the same coin, who are ultimate insiders who have played this game all their lives. and i think what hoosier values means is that people understand that someone's character is revealed in the pattern of their life, not in what they tend to say behind a podium when they're looking for a job. hillary clinton says whatever she has to say to get elected. so does donald trump. the pattern of his life reveals who he actually is. >> what do you make of he's being in hot water in some circles tore suggesting that hillary clinton would be at 5% in the polls if she were a man. you were famously on the receiving end of a comment donald trump made. >> as were you. >> both of which got him in some
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trouble, you could make the argument, in the polls and with some voters. what do you make of that comment today? last night that he made about hillary. >> well, you know, i think that donald trump honestly has trouble with strong people who stand up to him, whether they are men or women. and i mentioned that the character -- someone's character is revealed in the pattern of their life. i, for example, think that when we had a terrorist attack in brussels and donald trump immediately pivoted to attacking heidi cruz that reveals his character. and he cannot be our nominee. >> now, the drudge report tonight is raising questions about you that i want to ask about. they point out that in june of last year a ted cruz affiliated super pac gave your super pac $500,000 at a time when you were at 2% in the polls. do you know why that happened? they're suggesting something strange was going on there.
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>> well, you know, the last time i looked what super pacs do, they're not coordinating with candidates by law, and most super pacs give to a variety of like-minded candidates. i think there's been no doubt to anyone who's been watching this race for a long time that ted cruz and i are like-minded. we agree on virtually every position. we are both conservatives. we are both fighters who have challenged the system. so i don't find it particularly unusual, but i don't know the particulars of it. >> i'll ask you the last thing. of course you ripped on ted cruz in the primary season, as -- i hate to make a big deal about it because the candidates rip each other to the shreds and then say, welcome to the ticket. do you want to take any of that back, that he's too divisive to be president, maybe there was a question on his canadian citizenship?
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i'll give you the last word. >> i think it's overstating it to say i ripped him to shreds. in the heat of a basketballou m. here's what i would say. i've been with ted cruz for the past seven weeks. i've come to know him well. what i've come to know is a man who is who he says he is. he believes what he says. he has practiced what he says. he has convictions and principles and values that have been consistent throughout his life. that is not true of donald trump. and it is not true of hillary clinton. and what i see based on the people who get on that bus with us is a guy who unifies people. he also happens to be a fair amount of fun. so what i am proud to say tonight is that i'm proud to stand with him in a fight which i think is all about actually the nation and not about cruz or fiorina or trump or clinton for that matter. it's about what works. and what we know doesn't work is
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crony capitalism, a corrupt system, and the wealthy, the powerful and well-connected who use that system to get ahead. and that defines donald trump and hillary clinton. >> carly fiorina, great to see you again. >> thanks, megyn. >> all the best. coming up, senator marco rubio says donald trump has his backing if the gop front-runner secures the nomination. and where else might that alliance go? a bespectacled chris stirewalt and dana purina join us next on that. >> mr. trump, yes or no? >> i'm with dobnald if he's the nominee. the democrats have two people left in the race. one is a socialist and the other one is a socialist and the other one is under fbi investigation.
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join ted cruz's campaign for president. now questions are being raised about another former presidential candidate, senator marco rubio and where his support now stands. the senator sparking intrigue after these remarks about donald trump. >> look, let's not divide the party, have someone here who has all these votes, very close to 1237, let's not ignore the will of the people or they're going to be angry. >> if indeed it is donald trump, will you support him in. >> yeah, i've always said i'm going to support the republican nominee. that's especially true now that it is aparent that hillary clinton is going to be the democratic candidate. >> joining me now, chris stirewalt and dana perino. that was a ringing endorsement. that's the thing, the rubio sound bite we just listened to, he sounds more enthusiastic than he has, chris, more
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enthusiastic. last time it was like, it gets harder every day. >> you're saying he was more enthusiastic than when he was making fun of trump's anatomy. >> even thereafter. >> that's setting a low threshold. i think rubio is probably representative of what you'll see for a third of the republican party. i think you'll have a third that is dela trump dela trump dela trump trump trump and a third or less that's anti-trump or they will withhold their endorsements. then you'll have another third roughly speaking in the middle that will take a position like that which says, i comply, i welcome our insect overlords and let's talk about how bad hillary clinton is. >> marc thiessen, i said, will you vote for donald trump? he said, like i like to say, i'll walk off that bridge when i come to it. dana, do you think there's any possibility that marco rubio is gunning for the vp slot?
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>> i think there's a lot of people who think so. but based on a couple of conversations i had today with people who know him well, they don't think that that is the case. in fact it was just a few weeks ago that marco rubio was on mark lavin's radio show and he said that he thinks that a conservative should be the nominee and that the remaining conservative in the race at that point was ted cruz. now, he didn't come out and endorse ted cruz either, and i don't think that marco rubio is gunning to be anybody's vice president at this point. i think that maybe he's looking beyond, like maybe to the future of whether or not he wants to run again if at all. >> stirewalt, if rubio wanted to be trump's vp, hypothetically, what could he do with his delegates that would be helpful to donald trump? >> well, he could start by having more than john kasich, and he does do that. but what could he do for donald trump or more likely ted cruz, i think if marco rubio decides to help somebody, i think dana is
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100% right, it would much likely be cruz who is a conservative like rubio. he can peel back some round by round, state by state. rules control whether a candidate can unbind his delegates in that state. rubio could unbind some first round. >> he can't direct them to vote for any candidate. >> no. >> he can free them up to do that. >> like born free, he can release them into the wilderness. ♪ as free as the wind blows dana, what about carly fiorina? >> i think there's a couple of things. i think that if you wanted to change the media narrative for the day, you were able to do that. ted cruz was able to do that. i think he will benefit from having her on the taiicket in indiana. i shouldn't say the ticket there isn't one. >> he's 400 delegates behind. >> right. some have said too little too late. i said it might be too little too early because it's not quite at that point. >> he understands the importance of indiana. >> i think you pick a vice presidential candidate for a
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couple of reasons, one because you trust them and by all accounts they get along very well. they're of like mind when it comes to constitutional conservatism. and she can bring a crowd. i also think that he thinks she can govern. that's a really important pick. like if you -- he was right. ted cruz said it's the most solemn decision you make as a president, that's true. i think he put a lot of thought into it. does it help him in indiana? maybe in terms of getting enthusiasm out there. i think that 98% of the people when they go to vote they vote for who is at the top of the ticket. >> might happen elp in californ >> a little bit. >> stirewalt, your thought on fiorina? >> it's a slate, not a ticket. look, i think from a trumpian media point of view good because it broke the narrative for today. otherwise the narrative for today is everybody in the establishment press would have said, it's happening! trump! everybody shut up. so he broke the spell.
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so that did something. and the other thing is, they like her. the republicans like her. >> >> yeah. >> and if you're ted cruz, why the heck not? >> i have to ask you before i let you go, did you suffer some hillary clinton-esque concussion like with the glasses? we saw her give the testimony in benghazi first time around? >> whatever concussions i have suffered are not related to the spectacles. these are a result of pollen and i can't wear amy contacts. >> mystery solved. very deb anair. great to see you both. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> i have dana perino here. i have to tell you a joke. she gave this to me for my children. why did the chicken fall into the well? >> why? >> because he couldn't see that well. >> corny jokes. there should be a segment on "the kelly file." great one. moving on, is it friday? no. after putting himself one step closer to the gop nomination with a sweep of last night's
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the only thing she's got going is the woman's card and the beautiful thing is women don't like her. okay? >> donald trump getting in some trouble for that remark. fairly or unfairly? robert zimmerman is a democratic superdelegate. david is a trump supporter and attorney. fo good to see you both. your thoughts? >> the issue isn't whether hillary clinton is playing the woman's card, donald trump is not playing with a full deck. he has negatives amongst women voters at 60% according to "usa today." gallup at 70%. he's losing national polls against hillary clinton between 8 pk and 11%, losing states like arizona and now hillary clinton is tied in utah and mississippi. this candidacy has no message, no principles and ultimately the hatemongerers have one card to play, the trump card. >> david? >> let's talk about what he said, robert. hillary clinton's unfavorables skyrocketed over the last year.
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nearly 50% now among women. you have this e-mail server scandal hovering over her head, dozens of fbi agents investigating that, a potential criminal indictment coming down the pipe. we don't know for sure. that's going on. classic clinton scandal. despite that, she just mopped the floor with bernie sanders. she's doing very well. now, it's safe to say anecdotally speaking she's benefiting from the novelty of being the first female presidential candidate. >> how about -- how about being the most qualified candidate ever to run for president? >> let me argue with that. >> how about being the most qualified person ever to seek the presidency? >> she clearly -- >> as a former senator and secretary of state. >> go ahead -- >> david, let me get the point out to you if you want to look at her standings with women versus donald trump in every poll from the "wall street journal" through every other polling source, she's beating donald trump amongst women by 30 points or 27 points. >> go ahead, david. >> when is the election? the election is six months from now. what are the issues? when it comes down to the issues of national security, the
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border, jobs, 2nd amendment, women in the end are going to agree with trump's core issues. it's not going to be a matter of gender, this gender versus that gender. he's got six months to drive that in. you're not going to be able to separate people and drive a wedge between men and women. the reality is trump has better ideas, clinton does have the fact that she's a novelty -- >> that presidential stature is really working well for your campaign. >> are you suggesting hillary clinton's only credential to be president is she's a woman? >> no, i'm suggesting that helps her, megyn. there are clearly women who will vote for her because she's a woman. that's understandable. i think trump understands that. he's saying that gives her a big benefit. >> okay. >> until at least the issues are -- >> i'll give you the last word. ten seconds. >> let's be very clear about this. hx hk hillary clinton winning in every poll against donald trump, record states she's never been competitive in because of her competitive in because of her issues. [ male announcer ] love drama? don't be a yes man.
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tomorrow night we'll have charles krauthammer and anderson cooper. yes, from cnn. is coming over here to "the kelly file." set your dvr right now. we'll explain tomorrow. tonight, donald trump stakes his claim on the republican nomination. >> as far as i'm concerned, it's over. these two guys cannot win. >> and senator ted cruz makes a huge announcement. >> if i am nominated to be president of the united states, i will run on a ticket with vice presidential nominee, carly fiorina. >> newt gingrich is here tonight to react to all of it. and then all eyes are now on indiana in the battle for the hoosier state. >> last night was donald trump's night. today is indiana's day. >> herman cain and dr. benjamin carson, they're here to waeigh n on the 2016 race. plus donald trump unveils his foreign policy agenda in a major speech. >> and then there

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