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edition of hannity. how should donald trump take on hillary, on every major issue? we will debate that. that's all the time we have this evening. see you back here tomorrow. i have this new pen, by the way, it has a light on it. tomorrow night. thank you for being with us. oue campaign trail as three candidates are still battling it out. hello, everyone, i'm kimberly guilfoyle in for greta van susteren. donald trump holding some major meetings today, one on capitol hill to rally support and another at the new york four seasons to kick his fundraising in to high gear. and on the democratic side, senator bernie sanders meeting with president obama this morning at the white house. but shortly after that meeting, the president officially endorsing secretary hillary clinton. and as all these private meetings were going on, the candidates took to twitter to publicly go at each other's throats. after the president's endorsement, donald trump tweeted. this obama just endorsed crooked hillary. he wants four more years of
obama. but nobody else does. and just five minutes later, secretary clinton's account tweeting this in response to trump: delete your account. and then, rnc chair reince priebus. if anyone knows how to use a delete key, it's you. okay. and hours later, trump striking again at secretary clinton's response how long did it take your staff of 823 people to think that up? and where are your 33,000 emails that you deleted? but right now senator bernie sanders is refusing to back down. the senator is ready to rally in washington, d.c. huge crowds there already. we will take you back live to washington, d.c. when bernie sanders starts speaking. and joining us now, former speaker of the house, newt gingrich goes "on the record." what a pleasure to have you tonight, speaker, and my word, indeed, there was a
lot to discuss for today. so let's get your take on the twitter. >> i thought it was pretty good. i think it shows you a little bit of the speed both of trump and his allies. it was great that reince priebus jumped in. hillary was clever but i think she lost that round. her using the word delete takes you to so many things she has done wrong that it's almost embarrassing. >> yeah. that was really a seemed to be another like tone deaf moment. when you are under investigation by the fbi and been found to be in wrongdoing by your own statement department with an ig review, why would you even act in an irgant way mocking, talking about deleting? i mean, it seems like you are just not getting it especially when americans have put their lives on the line and national security has been compromised by her contact. >> i think that's one of the things that will be fascinating about this campaign. i don't think hillary gets it i think that her advisors don't get it. it was a brilliant book by
charles murray called "coming apart" that talks about the gap between the elites and the rest of us. you just had a fox poll, 64% of independents think hillary is lying. now, the fact that she is not even aware of this. she thinks she can bluff her way through it i agree with you, the notion of her using the word cleat is about as tone deaf as you can be. >> it was a bad move. so, senator would like to retrieve that email. and that tweet. so, let me ask you this. let's talk about the endorsement. obviously everyone was waiting. when is president obama, you know, very popular president with the liberals going to weigh in on this because nobody thought it was going to go this far, this, you know, long in the game with bernie and hillary. today he made his position clear and also we know that he did vote for her, he said, before in chicago. >> well, look, i think obama played this very well. he didn't get in the middle
of it he didn't give sanders any reason to be mad at him. evidence let it go all the way through california. i also think as the leader of the party, he is pretty desperate to stop trump and to preserve his legacy. he knows a trump victory will unwind most of his legacy within a year. he has a huge investment in hillary. and i think that he is now going to start playing that out. he is going to try to talk sanders out of the race. there will be huge pressure on sanders to drop out after the d.c. primary. and, but i think to give him credit, president obama, i thought, did it very ably in a very clever way and probably had as much impact as he could. remember, a large part of this country wants to change washington not get four more years of obama. and hillary has got to sort of do a dance here where she is grateful for his support with but she sure doesn't want to become the obama candidate if you will. >> yeah, absolutely. talk a little bit about
bernie sanders refusing to stand down or back down. he wants to stay in this. this whole socialist movement i think did be very helpful in a way to the trump supporters and republican party saying listen is this who you want, somebody who is pushing forward this type of agenda because it has pushed hillary to the left. >> put yourself in bernie's shoes. you had the white house press secretary today in what i think was probably a boo boo saying that the fbi investigation of hillary clinton is a criminal investigation. now, that's the white house press secretary. he did that shortly after obama endorsed her. so, if you are bernie sanders, you are thinking why should i drop out before the fbi drops out? i mean, if they are still in the game, is he still in the game. and i don't blame him at all. i think that if hillary were to be indicted, sanders will become the nominee because nobody else could compete with him. but, if he drops out, then it's a different game. >> i did want to get to this as well, mr. speaker, about your meetings on capitol hill with members of
congress. if you can give us a little tid bit or tell us everything. [ laughter ] well, i was there, actually, to talk about space policy with chairman babin of the subcommittee and chairman smith of the science committee. and then they said why don't i drop by the trump meeting. i was delighted to do it. it was very, very well done. i was very impressed. there was a lot of members there. there was a lot of enthusiasm there was a very candid back and forth. a lot of practical things when are you coming to my district? what can we do to help you at the convention? i thought, having been through a lot of presidential campaigns, i thought the trump operation looked very impressive this morning and did a very, very good job. and i think there is a lot of sense of they are excited about the chance to beat hillary and they think they are going to. >> okay. so it sounds like you saw some unification there. i could tell by your biorhythms, mr. speaker that it was the most auspicious meeting. >> yes. you got it exactly. very astute. >> thank you very much for being with us. look forward to seeing you
again. brand new fox news polls just released and it is a tight race indeed between donald trump and secretary hillary clinton. the new national poll of registered voters shows secretary clinton with 42%. donald trump sits just three points behind with 39%. however, compare those numbers to may, and it does show secretary clinton's edge over trump is due to a drop in his support in may secretary clinton got 42%. donald trump three is points ahead with 45. the "on the record" political panel, the boys are back from the "wall street journal," john bussey and from "the washington post philip bump. thank you for being here. this is great because these polls were just released 6:00. fox news polls. keep in mind that, in fact, they are within the statistical margin of error which is exactly kind of mirroring the poll earlier back in may. how do you see it? >> i think this is not good news for donald trump. i mean, what donald trump needs to do is he needs to continue making progress against hillary clinton.
one of the things about the polls that came out last month was the fact that he had gained on her, that he had suddenly taken the lead in the fox news poll which is a sign of the republicans coalescing around his candidacy. the problem is it looks as though based on those numbers and they are within the margin of error so it's hard to look too much into them. it looks he has lost some of that support again. the polling was conducted during the time period when there was all the uproar around judge curiel. >> it's certainly not good news. >> how do you read it? >> if anything, it's so within the margin of error that we really can't be sure who is ahead and who is behind right now. reflective, also, of a country that has for a long time been split right down the middle, contests nationally have been veryclose. that said, today was a very good day for hillary clinton. in the last couple of days, have not been good for donald trump. it's not just the judge and ration issue.
it's the fact that the g.o.p. came out with foreign policy plan. it is divergent from what donald trump talks about in terms of putin, in terms of nato. this is still not a unified party behind the candidate. whereas today for hillary clinton, whatever your politics are, you have got to admit, endorsement by increasingly popular president, endorsement by elizabeth warren tonight, most likely, and sanders beginning to back off and signal that the race is over, is he going to back hillary. >> we are waiting for sanders to speak and we will take that for you live when it does occur. we will talk about this, too, philip, which is will hillary or trump benefit more from the, you know, the bernie supporters? because there has been a lot of discussion about who can kind of pick the carcass clone and take what's left and paste it on their side. >> sigh no good argument that donald trump will pick up that support. i see no good argue: it doesn't really make sense, quite frankly. hillary clinton's endorse.
s today were strategic. president obama was very popular with young people go. out and say i support and want you to vote for hillary clinton. he going to have elizabeth warren very shortly endorsing who appeals to the economic democratic side. i think that's what she needs at this point. >> let's see and speaking of the bernie supporters. senator bernie sanders is at the microphone right now at his rally in washington, d.c. talking to his supporters. let's listen. [chanting] thank you bernie. thank you bernie. >> thank you. >> thank you, bernie. >> you know a little bit over a year ago, we began this campaign what the punditry thought is the campaign would not go very far. well, here we are in mid june and we are still standing. [cheers and applause] and we are standing after having won 22 states.
[cheers and applause] and the results have not yet come in from california. [cheers and applause] we have won over 10 million votes. [cheers and applause] and in every state and non-state, i am aware of this issue here in washington, d.c. [cheers and applause] i hope that the next time i'm back, we're going to be talking about the state of washington, d.c. [cheers and applause] but in every state and non-state that we have won in, we have won by very large votes, the young people. [cheers and applause] and the reason that that is
significant is that this campaign is based on a vision that our country must focus on social justice, on economic justice, on racial justice, on environmental justice. [cheers and applause] and when the overwhelming majority of young people support that vision that will be the future of america. [cheers and applause] this campaign has done as well as it has because we are doing having unusual in american politics. we're telling the truth. [cheers and applause]
and the truth has to do with the reality of our lives. >> and that is senator bernie sanders. hugely popular with his supporters at a rally in d.c. today. coming on the heels of the endorsement of president obama of hillary clinton as the democratic nominee. we're back with the panel right now. let's just get your thoughts. john, these supporters, i mean, this is just like gold for these two candidates. we are talking about can trump get some of those tes? do you think he can. >> what we are watching here, i think is bernie song. he has gotten schmoozed by the leadership today. one thing is he probably going to fall in line. this is an opportunity for him to pitch also a platform a last couple of times. and at the end of the day a piece of bernie and who knows how big it is a piece of the bernie supporter is feeling economically disenfranchised and antiestablishment. tough on trade because they feel that china has taken
their jobs or mexico has taken their jobs. what does that sound like? that sounds a little bit like the trump supporter. so you would think that a piece of the bernie voter might, in fact, align themselves with trump at the end of the day. how big that is? is it 2% or 10%? we just don't know. >> same pool upset with disenfranchised with washington. politics as usual and corruption and all of that why not blake a play for all of it. gentlemen, i wish we had more time. i have a sneaking suspicion you will probably be back. thanks so much. developing right now opening statement and witnesses today in the third freddie gray trial officer caesar goodson. the driver of the police van where gray suffered a spinal. griff jenkins was in the courthouse earlier today. he joins us live from baltimore. hi, chris. >> -- hi, griff. >> day one of this trial viewed by many most significant goodson is facing the most serious of the charges. the only officer facing
second degree depraved heart murder charge. it began with a bang as the state claimed in their opening statements that goodson gave freddie gray a quote, unquote, rough ride that resulted in a diving neck injury that proved to be fatal. goodson is facing other charges, five in total, six in total, actually, that involved second degree assault, manslaughter, and misconduct in office. today the state called a total of seven witnesses. four of them members of the police department here in baltimore. and they sought to establish the fact that goodson had the obligation, training, and notice to seat belt freddie gray as well as a duty to act in seeking medical treatment once it was established that gray was injured. judge barry t. williams presided over this trial. it is a bench trial. not a jury trial. that was goodson's election. judge williams is the same judge that presided over the first two, officer porter, you will remember, resulted in a hung jury and officer nero acquitted last month.
the state continues to make its case tomorrow. kimberly? >> high stakes indeed, chris. what happened on day one of officer goodson's trial we go to "on the record's" expert ted williams. he was also inside the courthouse today. before ted was a lawyer, i will remind you that he was an officer as well. all right. ted, thank you. let's talk about this because this is really fascinating. a lot of people felt this was overcharged to begin with definitely overpromising and under delivering with the first two trials. now you have got this one and it's a complicated legal issue with depraved heart murder. haven't tried those cases, right? we know. >> oh, absolutely. and the thing about this is being tried by the court, kimberly, you know how that is. >> oh, yeah. >> there is a big debate around here as to whether this case should have gone to a jury, but judge barry williams, know relations but a brilliant jurist is doing a very good job in this case. but, the question is county
prosecution prove beyond a reasonable doubt that freddie gray's neck was broken as a result of a rough ride by police officer goodson? >> yeah, and, you know, you have been inside that courtroom. i mean, unless something massively changes with some of the evidence, that is a very difficult thing to prove they really set the prosecution up to fail here. and you have got the same judge who has heard this evidence before, so how is kind this case going to get really any better? i understand this specific individual they have got charged but nevertheless. >> well, you are absolutely right. the prosecution has a very heavy bar here. they put on witnesses today to show that there was notice about rough rides, notice that how to handle individuals in a van. but, yet, they have to
connect the dots up and they have got to show that goodson, that goodson actually and purposely with evil will and malice as aforethought decided to give this guy a rough ride, to harm and possibly kill him. >> e.y. i mean, it's about as close to intent as you can get, saying you are so evil and so bad that the law will imply malice and evil intent to convict you. fascinating case. i know you will be keeping close wraps on it for us, ted, thank you so much. breaking news right now, the "wall street journal" reporting new information on a secret arrangement between secretary hillary clinton's state department and the cia about giving the state department more say over drone strikes. fox news chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge joins us live. catherine. >> well, thank you, kimberly. what we have reported his or her at fox news is that among the 22 top secret emails that had been deemed too damaging to release for
national security is that there was a discussion between clinton and her aides about the cia drone program. but the "wall street journal" is reporting tonight, and this is significant because it goes to the issue of intent, that there was a willful discussion between clinton, her aides and ambassadors on the ground in pakistan as to whether they would support or try to block a pending cia drone strike. the state department has sort of a narrow brief window in which to weigh in on these strikes. and the issue here as well it didn't deal with targeting information per se, any foreign intelligence service worth its salt, if they were monitoring these conversations, would know, based on the pattern, that a cia strike was imminent in the region, kimberly. >> why are the democrats continuing to say that this drone program was a secret? >> well, one of the arguments that's made is that the drone program that was discussed in the top secret emails was really just a discussion about "new york times" reporting or
other print reports. but what the "wall street journal" is reporting tonight is that these were predecisional discussions about pending drone attacks in pakistan. so this is realtime intelligence that would go to an operation and to a mission. and despite what you have heard publicly, the drone campaign is what's called a personal access program or sap information. and even if that information appears enemy a newspaper article, if you have a need to know you're read in on that project or program, you still can't discuss it either to confirm or deny elements of it, even if it's in the newspaper. kimberly? >> so, obviously, yeah. a serious breach there and compromise something in a significant way. >> intent. intent is a key here. a willful discussion. not just commenting on a newspaper report. >> unbelievable. all right. excellent reporting. thanks for bringing that to us tonight. >> you're welcome. >> and some of the most important authors ever are
white male poets apparently not welcome in yale's classrooms. undergraduates at yale university have launched a petition calling on the english department to abolish a core course requirement. that course studying some of the most famous authors in the world like shakespeare. why do students want them out? get, this because they are white it creates a, quote,
hostile culture. zach young against this petition is here to go "on the record." thanks for joining us in studio tonight. this seems crazy. like, i mean did, you ever think you would go to school stay great university like yale and there would be this kind of cren shoreship why are you against this petition. >> i think this petition is wrong in both its idea and its tactic. first the idea. i think we should be judging works based on merits and historical significance not the race of the author. that should be a pretty yrl principle. second, i think the tactics are wrong too. when you disagree with your professors. gets 160 signatures and telling your professors it's unethical if they disagree with you. >> it's pretty unbelievable. break this down to do the students actually know what the curriculum is specifically like, you know, for the course before they sign up so they know that these specific authors are going to be studied? >> exactly.
if one ever the prerequisite courses for the english major and it's a year long poetry course that includes eight great english poets. >> now they want to edit the list so the greatness is going to be like liquid papered out. it makes no sense to me. how are you supposed to get this valuable education to people that were so integral to the development of writing and english language and people like shakespeare. i mean this makes no sense. >> their argument of the eight poets all are white men and therefore this creates a hostile climate for students who do not bear those demographics. now, if we were to take that logic in another field like physics, of course, we would be missing out on some the great foundational discoveries because sometimes it's not the most diverse poll there with the founding. in terms of the english language if you go back to the foundational text english language it happens to be from mainly white men. that's why these have been chosen. >> are you going to erase
history? are they going to be upset and frustrated if there is a course on american presidents that they don't like that george washington or other presidents were white? you don't decide and get to delete history. >> right. and i think the curriculum itself shouldn't be chosen by students. i think it's up really to the faculty to deliberate and have a dialogue about what are the most important things for an english major in the 21st century to learn. i think if the students had a disagreement with that as individuals they could have come to their professor and left with their professors expertise and years of experience making major a decision. instead of a tight spot where they look like they're against a movement on campus pretty widespread if they reject the announcement and so i think it's going to be very hard for a professor to come out against it. >> it's more of this like safe spaces and microaggressions and whatever happened to going to a university, getting a great education, debating both sides of an issue and opening your mind? that's the whole point of an
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donald trump is under pressure to get republicans to rally behind him. today top aide paul paul manafot head a meeting to help build up support. are those meetings actually working. new york congressman chris collins was inside that meeting today and the congressman goes "on the record" from capitol hill. thank you for joining us. >> oh, kimberly, yeah. nice to join with you, kimberly. >> all right. fan tank. i want to know. i'm just noz and the viewers woe want to be noz nosey together. tell us how did it go this is a tumultuous news cycle as of late. you have this meeting happening. was he well received? do things seem to be going in the right direction?
>> you know, we are united. the people may portray it anyway they want, but the republican party is united. we have been over the past month since may 4th with donald trump. so today's meeting with rick deer borne and paul manafort and we had former speaker newt gingrich with us as well. overflowing crowd of republicans and really there has been a shift since the primaries are now over in new jersey and california so both parties now recognize that donald trump versus hillary clinton. it's a binary choice. that's what it is. the never hillary forces, those who want to protect america as we know and make america great again for all americans today's meeting was one talking about strategy, policy, a reach-out from the trump campaign to those of us in congress, i serve on energy and commerce to. reach out to those of us on committees like that. for our ideas. the trump campaign is now
launched a website. asking americans. we're going to make america great again for all americans. what are their ideas? what are their concerns? i think this is brilliant. donald trump is not pretending to have all the answers. he wants input from congress, from committee chairman. he wants input from every day americans. so, i mean, truly, i think today, kimberly, this is the beginning of the general election. it's five months from now that we are going to defeat hillary clinton. it's going to be about a policy, about what america looks like when donald trump is president. god forbid what america would look like with a third term of barack obama if hillary clinton is president. >> endorsement today from obama ma'am of former secretary of state hillary clinton. things are starting to narrow down here. >> definitely. >> is there still any measure of resistance? was anybody giving you any trouble in that meeting? name them.
>> none whatsoever not to say this but sometimes the press wants to manufacture that controversy. there is no controversy. donald trump turned the page on the judge issue. we have certainly accepted that we are moving forward. the irony is with barack obama formally endorsing and standing next to hillary clinton. that was a beautiful day for republicans and for donald trump to say she does represent a third term of a failed presidency where the economy is not moving forward. last two months of jobs numbering terrible, depressing. they know wages are not going up. 80% of them know the country is going in the wrong direction. and hillary wants to say i represent a third term of barack obama. thank you, madam secretary, we will take that to the polls tomorrow. >> those are the choices. congressman, you certainly chose early and made your decision up. >> i did. >> so now others are following it. >> i certainly did. >> thank you. and the woman in hawaii
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theory that ann, the passenger in the vehicle was the cause of the accident. essentially the witnesses were stating that there was fighting anna was pulling alisyn's hair beforehand. she was pulling her head. she was grabbing the steering wheel. and then shortly thereafter the car crashed through the wall. that evidence is supportive of the fact that alisyn did not cause the accident. she did not kill her sister. the evidence also presented yesterday showed that anna had hair in both of her hands and that hair belonged to alisyn. >> i worked at the los angeles and san francisco district attorney's office in homicide cases as well. normally you would think that this type of evidence would come forward to the prosecution in evaluating and making a decision as to
whether or not to charge. because, whether you have those forensics that you spoke of, the hair, you know, evidence, coupled with the eyewitness why do you think it took to this point and actually charges were filed? >> it's hard to speculate. the maui prosecutor's office is notorious for overcharging cases. this seems to be a rush in this case. ideally now, based on the court's ruling, they will take a deep breath, step back, and evaluate and assess the evidence further and come to a just conclusion. >> was this customary for them to fight, you know, in that fashion? i mean, otherwise, how was their relationship and then tell us really quickly how is your client doing? >> they are exceptionally close. even by identical twin disanders. they did have a tumultuous type of relationship. that is embodied by their closeness. they were really close.
as far as now, she is trauma advertised. trauma traumatized. her sister is dead. she is experiencing great pain physically and mentally. >> you can only imagine. you have done a very good job for your client, most certainly. thank you for talking to us about this tonight. huge day on the c@d closing the stage
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