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at foxnews.com/propertyman. i'm bob massi. i'll see you next week. [ woman vocalizing ] this week on "the journal journal editorial report" as new news, we'll talk to ray kelly about combating the homegrown terror threat. plus, president obama helps significant progress against fighting isis. while the cia director warns of more attacks. and has terror makes a return to the campaign trail a look at how the presidential candidates are responding. but fi new tension between the u.s. and russia. the pentagon accusing moscow of
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deliberate ti targeting u.s. backed rebels in syria. russia is claiming the air strike was nearly 200 miles away from the wr the u.s. said rebel forces were operating. there was an effort to better coordinate efforts. tens of thousands of demonstrators taking to the streets of okinawa protesting troops on the japanese island following last month's rape and murder of a 20-year-old woman. an american contractor worked on a u.s. base and has been arrested and charged in her death. see you at the top of the hour. back now to "journal editorial report". hope you are enjoying your day. welcome to the journal editorial report. i'm paul gigot. as details emerge about the events leading township the orlando nightclub shooting,
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questions are raised about what, if anything, could have been done to prevent the deadliest terror attack on u.s. soil since september 11. 29-year-old omar mateen was twice the subject of fbi scrutiny in both investigations agents concluded he did not pose an immediate threat. former new york city police commissionerlu ray kelly is vic chair at k-2 intelligence and author of the book "vigilance." welcome back. >> good to be with you. >> you live this every day. how do you anticipate and stop a lone wolf terrorist like this? >> with great difficulty. no question about it. they are able to encrypt their messages. there is really no easy way of tracking these people. it used to be we could get into chat rooms and identify people with a bent toward violence. very difficult. there are one on one chat rooms. inscription is everywhere. as jim comey said it is like finding a needle in a hay stack
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and trying to determine what piece of hay will turn into a needle. monitored him twice on two occasions. he was in their sights but both times they said he doesn't pose a dthreat. if you are an fbi agent or nypd intelligence officer looking at somebody like this, what are you looking for to be able to say, you know, he is going over the line. >> you're looking for a manifest act. >> action. something you can point to. it's important to note that it was a preliminary investigation. under thehe attorney general's guidelines theseel investigatio have time limits. if it was a full field investigation there are no timelines. >> they hads, to show every 90 days why the investigation yes re mains pope benedi s open.
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jim comey said he would look at this.s perhaps there are lessons to be learned on how the investigations are conducted. >> maybe have more of them that go beyond that? >> yep. >> what do you call the next stage? o >> field. maybe there should be a category that allows it to go forward. >> does the fbi have the resources to track them, the man power to do it? there are a lot of people who will show perhaps tendencies on chat rooms or on facebook account toward islamic state but wouldn't act on it. >> you're right. they need more resources but it is always an issue for government agencies. everybody wants more resources. >> i knowur that, but -- exactl. but it's a question of how to make sure people who are at least -- who have shown
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indications of radicalization. do they have the man power to track those people? >> i think that i do. it depends what category you put them in. i think it can be done. we don't know the doets of the case. >>s that's true. >> they say they took confidential informants. what are the details? he said some outrageous things. >> to co-workers. >> and to agents when they interviewed him. he wanted to die a martyr. >> you can't arrest anybody for saying something. only for taking action. >> yyes. it means you can surveil him in a variety of ways. if there is suspicion there. based on the statements he made, i think he warranted more surveillance. >> what do you think of sting operations in which the fbi or new york police department or somebody else basically gives
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somebody who is suspected of being radicalized? criticized as entrapment or .it's unfair, they are reall not threats. that's a way to dhon strait action. >> nobody is taken into custody for what they say. they have to have a manifest ak. they have arrested people in the last two years for manifest act. you can go to iraq and syria or talk abouty conducting a violen act and accumulating materials to do that or starting to do it. you have to act quickly and sting operations are essential in this area. >> mm-hmm. >> it's ephemeral in terms of what people are saying. once they make that act, the motion, iit's appropriate.
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>> step back, big picture. everything you know about the terrorist threat of the islamic state, how big oh threat does it remain? >> it's a significant threat. >> to the homeland. >> john brennan was talking about the threat to the homeland. he's saying irrespective of how much we reduce the footprint in the middle east, their inspirational reach is significant a and will be for quite a while. so that's what we primarily are concerned about in this country. >> i was it a mistake for your successors in new york to take down from the nypd website the radicalization of the west report your administration did which identified that threat? >> it was a bad signal. they capitulated. this is a demand that's been put forward by activists for a long time. i think it gave the wrong signal certainly in the environment that we are in. the report was very well done.
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it was an early effort done in 2007. to get our arms around. >> it anticipated what happened. >> exactly. is it done by two outstanding nypd analysts mitch silver and alvin bott? it was heralded certainly by the counter terrorism world that it was a seminal document. they took it down in response to a lawsuit. i think it was the wrong move. >>r commissioner kelly, thank yu very much for being here. >> thank you. >> when we come back a grim warning from john brennan about islamic states' growing influence days after president obama claimed significant progress in the fight against the terror group. influence just days think fixing your windshield is a big hassle? not with safelite. this family needed their windshield replaced
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we judge it will intensify the campaign to maintain dominance of the global terrorism agenda. >> cia director john brennan on capitol hill warning that isis is likely to step up attacks on the west. brennan's remarks came just days after president obama claimed the terror group was on defense and under more pressure than ever thanks to the u.s.-led military campaign in syria and iraq. let's bring in "wall street journal" columnist and deputy editor dan henninger, and best of the web columnist james toronto. what do you make of the difference between the president and the cia director? >> the president is saying something one can't possibly believe. for him to come out, the president to come out right after this mass murder in orlando, the worst terrorist attack t on american soil since 9/11 and say, isis is on the defense it reminds me of -- do you remember baghdad bob, the
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saddamng hussein press spokesma who said everything is going swimmingly. >> everything the president said is true. those are signs of progress. 25%. >> how much progress if they have an increased likelihood to attack us here and they are expanding all over the world. it's not just john brennan. his head of central command three months ago said we need more troops to defeat isis over there. almost every time someone who is responsible for getting the job done speaks, he contradicts the president. >> other dispute this week is over whether or not the president should say radical islamic terrorism as his critics like donald trump say. that's just words the president says. is that right? >> in the president's mind it is semantic, but not just words. that's made clear by john brennan's testimony and the fact you had the extraordinary
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dissent channel signed by state department officials objecting to the policy in syria. >> they want it more aggressive. >> when president obama spoke to the air force academy he emphasized at great length how diplomacy works better than war. the president's head is totally in diplomacy. doesn't want to be george w. bush again in the middle east. the national security bureaucracy is saying the islamic state no matter how much pressure unless they are suppressed willte support it lo term. >> you were in the white tehous. presidents don't want to lose credibility. it's the coin of the realm. why would the president risk going out and giving you the sunny side of the story. >> he has to. he's the man who gets us out of
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wars. >> i'm afraid we are back in one. >> is there something else going on here? does he just want to put the best face on it? as the would be successor goes into an election campaign. >> the president's refusal to acknowledge that islamic terrorism is islamic. he now says that's just words. of course it's not -- that belies everything he said for the past several years. he insists on avoiding disconnection. we learned from jeffrey goldberg of the atlantic that, in fact, obama privately knows full well that islamic terrorism is islamic. he doesn't use the term for politically correct reasons.
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it doesn't speak well of the president's vaunted political ability he can't come upp with way to discuss this which takes into account -- >> there are uses and making explicit who enemy s. that's not allin but it is a certain eleme of radical islam. thank thanks, everybody. still ahead, a look at how the presidential candidates responded to the orlando attack when we come back. when we come back.♪ ♪ ♪ take on the unexpected with a car that could stop for you.
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and despite so many attacks, repeatedly refused to even say the words radical islam. she supports so much of what is wrong and what is wrong with this country, and what's going wrong with our country and our borders. >> a ban on muslims would not have stopped this attack. neither would a wall. i don't know how one builds a wall to keep the internet out. not one of donald trump's reckless ideas would have saved a single life in orlando. >> terror made a return to the campaign trail this week with donald trump and hillary clinton both going on the attack in the wake of the orlando shootings. kim strossel also joins us. hillary clinton first, how would you judge her response to orlando? >> well, to the extent that she
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reassuring for voters out there. she's talked about the need for greater intelligence gathering, but very vague on how that would happen. harsh words for countries that spread this ideology. but mostly, she's lambasted donald trump's ideas and also has seemed to want to take what's an urgent matter of national security and turn it into a domestic policy fight over gun control. >> so changing the subject, much like the president has done. >> yeah, absolutely. i mean, i don't think anyone believes that reinstating president clinton's assault weapons ban, so-called assault weapons ban, is the answer to dealing with radical islam ideology. >> and yet, what she is doing, she's trying to contrast herself as a matter of temperament with donald trump. she's saying i'm cool, i'm calm, i'm experienced. donald trump, you can see he's angry. he focuses on division. i'm a uniter. >> well, he fettered some lines with his overreach, the ban on all muslims rather than making it, as paul ryan says, a
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national security test and so forth. so he's handing that -- to me, i agree with kim. this is classic hillary. it sounded tougher than it was. it's more of the same. i'm not sure of the long-term. i'm not sure it helps mrs. clinton to have her policies so tied to president obama's. >> so you don't think there's much difference between them? >> no. if you look at what she's saying, we're going to have an air war and three green berets go in and do it and it's not going to cost us any more. he did also force them both to confront the radical islam issue. and we're going to see how this plays out. it's going to be going on for months. >> what about donald trump, dan? how do you assess hiswell, his interesting. the most controversial thing he said was to suggest that something else was going on with president obama here, and maybe he was sympathetic with the terrorists, implying that. >> our colleague james toronto called that pure innuendo. not specific, just let it hang out there.
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>> kiit's not as though donald trump is the only person in america who has had those thoughts, granted, but he personalized the post-orlando response in a big way, which forced the president to respond in the same way. to track back, joined by hillary clinton. and they started describing trump as reckless, and so forth. then they got basically air cover from the mainstream media. he just got torched by the press and electronic media as well. it suggested to me that this showed what trump is going to be up against going forward. and he's got great skills. but to take on the entire media, the entire democratic party that is defining him as unstable i think is a dangerous situation, politically, to get into. >> kim, as i heard that speech, i thought about 80% of donald trump's speech was about the immigration ban. the tougher borders and particularly the muslim -- he calls it a temporary ban on all muslims. but it is a ban on all muslims
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coming in for a certain period of time. that got rebuked not only by democrats, but criticized by some republicans, too. that can't help donald trump. >> yeah, he's reverting to what gave him some support back during the primary. but how that plays in the general public, we still don't know. and you just hit on i think one of the real problems he had this week, which was that one of donald trump's hugest challenges is still going into this republican convention, trying to unite the party. and what some of these statements do, and the way he makes them, continues to make it very hard for republican leaders to coalesce around him. and that's a growing problem for him, to this day. >> who do you think, bill, has the advantage here on this terror question? i will tell you, i think if donald trump can't win on this issue, he probably can't win. >> i think he should have the net advantage, because i think president obama showed the hollowness of his policy and trying to command facts to fit his world view, and mrs. clinton says, that's my game, too. but he's allowed all these
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distractions. one thing i would say is, on the muslim ban, which i don't support, the public does. in fact, that support is up. so i think this is going to play out for a long time. >> all right, thanks, bill. we have to take one more break. when we come back, hits and misses of the week. with diabetes. steady is exciting. oh this is living baby! only glucerna has carbsteady, to help minimize blood sugar spikes. and try new glucerna hunger smart to help you feel full.
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♪ ♪ time now for our hits and misses of the week. kim, first to time now for our hits and misses of the week. kim, first to you. >> a hit to the house oversight committee for this week voting to sensor john koskanen. instead, he spent two and a half years stone walling congressional investigations and making excuses for the irs. this is finally about trying to hold somebody accountable. it's a good first step and maybe
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next up impeachment. >> james. >> this is a hit to president george h.w. bush for being a class act, a letter that he wrote and left in the oval office for president elect clinton has been circulating this week and it's a model of grace and civility. among other things, the outgoing president who had just been defeated soundly by mr. clinton, wrote, i wish you great happiness here. you will be our president when you read this note. your success now is our country's success. i'm rooting hard for you. somehow it's hard to imagine president obama leaving such a gracious letter for president elect trump. >> all right, bill. >> a miss to the senate for passing a defense bill that leaves afghan interpreters out in the cold. the general in charge of our troops says this is absolutely vital to our cause and our credibility and our work against the taliban, but because of procedural gridlock and some anti-immigrant feeling, they didn't extend these visas for these afghan interpreters. i think even donald trump would say these are the kind of people that we should be letting in. >> and they're taliban targets. >> people that have put a target
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on their back by helping us. >> all right, bill. if you have your own tweet or miss, tweet it to us. that's it for this week's show. thanks to my panel. thanks to you for watching. hope to see you right here next week. >> hello, everyone. i'm arthel neville. welcome to "america's election headquarters." >> i'm greg jarrett in for eric shawn. happy father's day to all the fans out there. top of the news this hour, we are awaiting details in the orlando massacre as the investigators prepare to release a transcript of calls made to police. plus, new questions about whether omar mateen's wife will face charges in this case. this after investigators revealed she allegedly drove him to that nightclub to case the scene and helped him buy the