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♪ [ laughs ] [ male announcer ] research, price, find. only helps you get the right car without all the drama. a fox news alert as you look live at 10 downing street. they have voted to leave the european in what is nothing but shocking news. we had expected to hear from david cameron in victory in voting to stay. you suspect he is probably eating a large peace of humble bags inside 10 downing street, perhaps some say even packing his bags.
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we're hearing that david cameron could resign. he certainly staked his future on the eu referendum and he has lost. >> it is a night we will be talking about for a very, very long time. the sun just coming up there in london. what is it, 7:00 in the morning now. you can imagine a lot of people are waking up in shock, not just prime minister david cameron. over 70% came out to vote either to stay in the eu or to leave the eu. there was a lot of talk leading up to this about it being close but potentially it going in favor of remaining with the european union. that's what a lot of people thought. >> a lot more than talk. the markets expected it, it seemed to really be the safe bet in more ways than one. we're watching the market to it, which is decidedly negative. >> it does not like uncertainty. we were seeing that play out today. we had steven moore on just a
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few moments ago. he predicted it would tamper down in just a few days but we don't know that. you look at the numbers now. it's an unpredictable time. we have not seen this happen before. we were talking about what we can compare it to in the past and maybe the most similar time was in 2008 during the financial crash. but otherwise, this is really unprecedented time. >> unprecedented. dow down about 700 points for the dow futures. moments ago you can see the pictures at 10 downing street. there was a cat standing outside 10 downing street. you can imagine the cat waiting to hear what david cameron thinks about brexit. >> he was waiting so long. >> we were waiting so long, too. >> you think about the economic
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implications and then you go to the implications worldwide lead kingdom had a lot of parallels to donald trump's campaign that is still ongoing. and talk a little bit about what happened there, the vote and how it broke down. head of political research in europe, the middle east and europe and africa, appreciate you doing this, sir, early in the morning there. give us a sense of how everyone got this so wrong. who came out and voted and why that we didn't understand? >> well, in a sense the country is extremely divided. our polls showed the leave campaign ahead recently but neck and neck. we expected the remain would take it based on the most recent trend.
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the people who supported leaving were far for supportive of the issue and the people for remain, it was not as important. that came out to be an issue of turnout. i think that was part of the reason for the change. >> we talk about people in the uk waking up about now to this news. some of them probably wanting to run out and celebrate in the streets in shock, and other people wanting to put their head in their hands, wondering as you said, leland, how they got it so wrong. joe, how do you think the rest of the world is going to respond waking up to the shocking news today and just the impact this is going to have globally? >> well, globally there's
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obviously the impact that it will have on the markets and on the counties. but very pressing is the impact that it will have in europe and particularly within other european union states. this was hailed consistently as an opportunity to provide a mandate, democratic mandate for the european union because there hasn't been an in/out referendum of this time in decades. now it's occurred and the result is that we appear to be leaving. and what that means for countries like holland, denmark, france, which have strong, growing populist movements, what that means to them and the future of the project for the whole is a great uncertainty. we just don't know what that
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means. and within each country there are these great divisions. in this country, for instance, overwhelmingly people who were university educated favored remain. people were fewer qualifications favored leaving. young people, around three quarters of them supported remain. older people, the over 65s, two-thirds of them supported leave. then you've got areas like london which which supported remain and scotland, outside london overwhelmingly favored leave. how disunity is brought back together will be a huge challenge over the next few years. >> as you said, who leads the country -- >> maybe the cat will lead. >> i think the cat already left. the cat's gone.
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he abdicated and said i'm out, this is too complicated for me. as joe was pointing out, these big demographic splits in who voted for leave and who voted for stay. we're seeing some of the same demographic splits here in the united states. >> we are. we want to get the politics from tom rogan and jessica tarlog money and we've been talking about the similarities at home, the establishment wanting something different for their lives. how similar is this to what's playing out here with the donald
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trump movement? >> i think it's quite similar in terms of people from different political persuasions bucking the trend, bucking the establishment and doing so by a pretty significant margin based on polling data of the lafew weeks. i think there is an indication of this momentum against the idea that the status quo is in some way sustainable. so the reflection of that in terms of donald trump, i would use a very good example and let's see if it holds. but bernie sanders the other day with the campaign polling suggesting how many bernie sanders supporters would vote for donald trump. it was about 22%. that suggests to me that donald trump can galvanize on immigration that uses anger to create a major change against that establishment.
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>> tom rogan, we'll bring in jessica tarlove. if you look backward, we look at president obama in what many say is an unprecedented move and said if you guys vote to leave, you go to the back of the queue to net a trade deal with the united states. he was almost threatening. clearly we have the united kingdom voters rejecting that soundly. what does that say about the influence of the president of the united states in the world? >> well, i think it says he's the president of the united states and he's not the prime minister of britain. i think this is a blow obviously to president obama. by the way, basically all world leaders who were in the stay camp there. david cameron was certainly not alone in that. but, yeah, it doesn't look good for president obama.
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obviously it's a worse day for david cameron. you've been discussing the fact we could see a resignation tomorrow. it was good to see over 80 mps came out to support that he stay. i think that's a good sign for cameron. there's no other way to say his position is untenable as we go forward. >> untenable as the british found disintegrates. >> they expect to have a conversation between president obama and david cameron in the next day or so. we're supposed to hear from the prime minister probably within the next hour or two. this is a huge shock to many politicians, a wake-up call that
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thought they had this in the bag, especially prime minister cameron comparing this to falling out of a plane, you can't get back, basically saying if you don't stay in the eu, this is sort of the end of the world as you know it. who even knows if he had a speech prepared for this moment. if you were in his shoes, what would you say? >> he definitely had a speech repaired. what he's going to say is he respects the will of the people and he accepts the judgment and the main point of the speech will be an effort to calm the markets. he'll say this will be a process, we'll move toward the will of the people but in a way that gives reassurance and confidence and understanding, especially to foreign investors into the united kingdom so that they know what their interests are and what they're going to be because his key concern now will
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be consolidating the economy. they do not want to have a -- you've seen the impact on the pound already. i suspect you'll see similar comments from president obama, backing away from the line that britain has to get to the back of the queue. if there's a ripple effect in the uk, that will quickly spread to france and germany. >> just as we compare this to politics here in the u.s., do you think that the democrats have reason to be concerned when you compare the movements playing out here with donald trump and this anti-establishment wing and what's played out today in the uk, do the democrats have reason to be nervous about this happening just in the next few months here in the united states? >> well, i think there definitely is cause for concern. donald trump definitely wins this one, though he doesn't have the deepest knowledge about what brexit meant but he was in favor
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of it. there's a real concern about the quality of polling out there right now. we have a tight race and hillary clinton has moved ahead 6 to 8 points but we also had the stay camp 4 to 6 points ahead and leveled out to a dead heat right before hand but i think we can't underestimate this populist force and get this as accurate as possible so we know what's going on in the polls in the country. i think david cameron will hon the the people. that will be a big point of contention at the republican convention and establishment republicans who would like to see him dethroned there. >> if anything, it speaks to bernie sanders and the movement he brought to us over the last year. >> you the have similarity, the
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populist revolution movement. at the same time, just to touchl on this to tom, the last time we had this kind of sea change in the united kingdom, you go back to the election of margaret thatcher, a lot of the same issues on the table right now were on the table in 1979. now you fast forward a year, you get to 1980 of the election of ronald reagan here montana united states and so many people are drawing that comparison now. you have the leave movement, the victory tonight, does that foreshadow here comes november. >> you talk about the traz, you talk about economy and you talk about administration. >> that's exactly what donald trump -- really, that's the the key of his campaign. perhaps not a a coincident.
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we can expect probably to hear from him on twitter when he lands. but before he left he talked about how he would be in the leave camp as well. >> he hasn't tweeted yet so he must be asleep. it's 7:15 in the united kingdom. the british pound is down to the lowest it's been in 30 years against the u.s. dollar. there's a lot of fear there as we look live at london. you would certainly think that david cameron would want to come out of 10 downing street and in some way alleve some of those fears. the sun is already up and i'm sure people were making up to this news. >> the calm very much in shock. i want to thank tom and jessica
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for joining us this morning. we're supposed to hear from david cameron, we're hearing, in the next 45 minutes. >> it would make sense before the markets open as you a currency dropping like this has enormous affects across the entire economy and what it does to the euro. >> i don't think we realize how connected we all are to each other. and when one nation goes through any sort of turmoil or any sort of change, just the ripple effects that happen and what happened in the u.s. stock markets over the possible greek default on bonds, which could been a significant issue. but certainly not a seismic event as this is. you're looking at the bottom of your screen just to sort of get you in tune of what's happening in the financial markets, the dow future, which gives the
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play. >> these are big numbers. >> it's almost like you can't digest what those numbers mean because that's just not something that we've experience about the uk leaving this afternoon. >> we'll see you after this. nexium can take 24 hours. try cool mint zantac. no pill relieves heartburn faster.
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we're back with the breaking news about the great britain leaving the eu. l happen in the next few days. >> this vote is not technically legally binding. now we're going to go to sky news, the chair of the electoral commission announcing the votes. >> the total number of votes cast in favor of leave was 17,410,342. [ cheers and applause ] >> the number of ballot papers
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rejected were as follows: no mission remark, 282, nos and voted for, 984. >> that's the formal declaration in manchester for you and the t. >> well, there you have it, the official announcement, 7:2 a.m. the united kingdom has voted to leave the european union. this has robbed the financial world to its core really. >> the political world as well. we're supposed to hear from prime minister david cameron in the next 40 minutes or so. someone who was really hoping, campaigning on staying with the european union. and waking up this morning i'm sure he had an all-nighter last night in shock with how this all
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happened. >> they really thought they had this one in the bag. cameron had been so powerful, they thought they had it won until about five, six hours ago. you're watching on your screen the playout on the financial market. they invoke article 50. you can almost think of that as a very vague pre-nup to the european union and now we begin the very messy divorce. >> so it's unbinding, which means he could decide to not listen to his own people -- >> i'm sure that would go other well. >> which is unlikely to happen but it's still an option that he has. not really a possibility if we a had to get guess.
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>> we'll know in the next 40 minuteshether or not he's going to invoke that or not. worth looking at "sky news", the united kingdom independence party leader is talking there saying it's a victory for ordinary people and against big business. that's what we've been hearing in terms of the leave campaign. there is the leader of the uk independence party coming in. >> there's a woman saying why don't they come and see what they've done to my community, what they've done to my kids. people here are too wealthy. they don't get what open door massive immigration as a result of eu membership has done, ability of getting gp appointments or getting their kids into school. so i'm thrilled that we've done
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this and i believe the other big effect of this election is not what's happened in britain but what will happen in the rest of europe. i mean, the rest of the eu, an opinion poll of the netherlands said that a majority there now want to leave. so we may well be close, perhaps to nexit. and similar in denmark are favor of leaving so we could be close to dexit. we could be close to austria, sweden and perhaps italy, too. i open we've knocked the first brick out of the wall. friends together, neighbors together but without flags and a useless unelected president.
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what happens next? 17 million people have said we now leave the european union. we now need a government that will be mindful that already many of the german car manufacture leaders. let go on buying motor cars and wine and cheese with each other, but a government also that at the same time using the opportunity of brexit and the opportunity is we're now freed freeh to start making our own trade deals and associations with the rest of the world. we've left behind with this result a failing political union. we've given ourselves the chance to rejoin the world. so we need, as i say, brexit government. we need the negotiation to start as soon as you believe partner. and the other thing i think that
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needs to happen is that june the 23rd it will become a national bank holiday and we will call it independence day. >> wow. nig nigel, the leader of the party. >> he said this is a win for the every day people. he said, "today we are free." >> something else he said that is key, "we need a brexit government." david cameron is not a brexit government. we're waiting to hear from the prime minister in the next 30 minutes or so. one of the things you have to think he's going to address, the
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folks are worried and rightfully so. it would be very interesting to hear what he has to say in just a few moments from now. we'll be right back.
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a fox news alert. it is official now, the united kingdom voting to leave the european union. unexpected. shocking not on politically but economically as well. you see the numbers below on the bottom of the screen to what's happening in the u.s. financial market, the british pound now the lowest it's been in 30-plus years. >> in terms of voter turnout, over 70% came out to vote. 60 million to remain, 70 million to leave. >> this campaign has been going on for months now. >> we just heard from the head of the uk independence party who was very excited -- >> colorful. >> very enthusiastic waking up this morning because he thought it wouldn't go that direction. he said this is a sign that the eu is failing, is dying and this is about freeing the people in the uk and how this could
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potentially lead to other members of the eu considering leaving as well. so the implications here are huge, not just for the uk but for the world. they're just waking up there at 7:30 in the morning in the uk. they're voting to walk out on the european union on thursday. that means the clock could be ticking for british prime minister david cameron and former mayor of london boris johnson. is he next in line to lead the uk? >> give us a sense -- morris johnson broke with david cameron and picked up the lead mantle here and he has been successful. this is really pretty huge. >> it is absolutely massive.
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he is supporting david cameron now. he said because they voted to leave, david cameron can't remain in his possible. there's no doubt boris has always had big as respirations, when he ousted ken livingston. he's a big thinker. he's educated the same as david cameron and george osborne, the chancellor, they both went to oxford but boris' personality is much more of the working man, even though he's talking in absurd latin phrases all the time. >> this lead campaign that he was a part of was a populist movement, some of the very same themes you're hearing from donald trump, immigration, trade and the economy. >> yes, but i would say in
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boris' defense there that i'm no huge fan of donald trump that he was very careful to stay away from the xenophobic attacks on donald trump. >> he was but -- >> no, no, i'm agreeing with you. >> there are parts that were far more -- >> 100%. i would bring up douglas carswell. he was switched over for this issue and he came out against nigel farage of dark skin people running through fields, saying it was more of an -- i think the undertones of the campaign are very similar to what donald trump is doing here, which is what is very concerning for many
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americans. >> the wall street journal is saying he is the winner out of this whole thing. there's even talk about if prime minister david cameron resigns and there have been reports that could happen in the next 24 hours, that boris johnson could come in to take his place. he is an interesting character. he does remind me in some ways of like a bernie sanders in the sense that he just doesn't care how he looks all the time, he's not always so politically correct. he might have political ambitions but he's just someone that you can't help but like in his style. >> absolutely. >> you worked for boris johnson. what was he like to work for and is it a possibility for him to take over? >> i think it is a real possibility. i think it's something that he's been thinking about and a lot of conservatives have been thinking about. boris johnson is just as fun as he seems on television. it was a running joke within the campaign that every time he did something that seemed like it would be a mistake, his poll numbers would shoot up.
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there's a famous picture of him embarrassing riding a zip lynn with his crotch situation not looking great. instantaneous poll bump. so he kind of defies all the odds. >> it's so interesting because this is what i sense hillary continues to struggle with. she lacks this ability to be as likable, to be as just real as some of the politicians that we see today that people are wanting in these movements, whether it is donald trump, bernie sanders or boris johnson. they aren't just these they look perfect, they sound perfect. there's something that's going on whether it's here in the u.s. or in the uk where voters are wanting a human being that's just real. >> that's that old poll question they ask, who would you rather have a beer with.
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david cameron's statement has been pushed back to 8:15. >> he didn't have it ready. >> it's always a bad move to not have both speeches written. >> certainly when it was this close, it was really neck and neck there and i think looking forward going into our on election and it's neck and neck, maybe there's a little advantage for the populist movements because we've be been seeing this happen all across the country and all over the world. david cameron needs a few minutes. he might have had the speech and be looking at his tea cup and say how did this happen, even though he's prepared for it. i'm not sure it be his last day as prime minister but i'm pretty sure this haven't how he wanted to go out. >> coming up, we're going to bring back ashley webster, who has been on the ground in london
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we're back with breaking news. the united kingdom votes to leave the eu. the votes were close, 17 million voted to leave, 16 million to remain in the eu. we're supposed to hear from prime minister david cameron in the next 20 minutes or so. someone who campaigned very hard to remain in the eu. it will be very interesting to hear what he has to say. but certainly a night and morning, leland, that we will never forget. >> the head of the lead party, the united kingdom independence party saying this is the uk's
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independence day. you think about this is breaking news out of london, live pictures there, 7:45 in the morning, but the reverberations for this, especially in the financial markets are truly worldwide. we bring in ashley webster live in london. we know the british pound has crashed. the ftse is expected to open way down and now we hear that david cameron is not going to speak until 15 minutes after the markets are supposed to open. what do you make of that? >> it's interesting. he was supposed to come out of 10 downing street hours ago and it just kept being pushed back and back. i heard your conversation earlier that he should have had two speeches, one where he won or one where he lost. i don't think he ever believed he was going to lose. i'm sure mr. obama has been on the phone and those leaders
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across europe as well. his first yob is to calm everybody down and say the world is not coming to an end, the british voters have had to stay and pair, does he tint continue to rept the united kingdom or will he come out and resign? but the message is clear in the uk and that we've been hearing in the united states as well that there's a massive disconnect between the people of the country and those elected to represent them. it something we're seeing time so boris johnson could be a good candidate but he's certainly a member of the political establishment. he grew up in brussels, the son of a euro democrat. his father, by the way, has the same crazy blond frock, the same
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crazy style. though he is a member of the establishment, he connects well with people. we know that president obama has been briefed on this. he is expected to speak with prime minister david cameron in the next day or so. we haven't gotten any tweets in donald trump or hillary clinton clinton. we'll everyone enforced how there was still what -- a, what changed people's mind in the last minute and b -- i lost my
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train of thought here. b, how did we get it so wrong? a lot of people were saying to believe it didn't happen. but -- i think the fear mongering got to a point where people didn't fear anymore, they didn't buy it. and let's get back to our faith and -- the young people are split. they wanted the ability to live and work as in 27 other countries, whereas the older population says we've got nothing out of brussels, we way 16.8 billion u.s. dollars for the year, why don't we keep that
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money for ourselves. that was the message that won through. there are parts of scotland, it's very much a pro eu country. they voted universally to state but they wouldn't show up in the numbers to pip the ball have another they'll want to get out of the ue in the netherlands and denmark. he said it was nexit and dexit. >> also the leader of that independent party saying today the people of england are free. he was very enthusiastic in that
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speech. ashley webster, thank you for being with us. the idea they were going to stay in the eu. i think we should take a commercial break and get you a cup of coffee. >> so can i remember my thoughts. >> a cup of coffee and maybe a donut or two. and we'll be right back to david cameron's speech to the country and to that matter, to the world. or something else. so i jumped at the chance to take the dna test through ancestry. and my results ended up being african, european and asian. it just confirmed what i guess people had seen in me all my life. i do feel like ancestry helped give me a sense of identity. "what are you?" now i know. discover the story only your dna can tell. order your kit now at
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it's almost 8:00 in the
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morning in the uk, now voting to leave the european union. we're waiting anymore moment for prime minister david cameron to come out and speak about the vote. obviously he campaigned very hard for remaining a part of the european union. he said this is like jumping out of a plane, it's something you can't get back. after the markets open in the uk, which people are wonder and you need to hear from your leader. >> we see the door open and one of the monties walking out there. we'll obviously keep an eye on the markets. you can see the market down.
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mark ashe, author of "saving america" joins us now. i appreciate you staying up with us so late. give us the sense here of how big of an earthquake this is globally from the markets. are they overreacting in the way we're seeing or is this real? >> no, i think there's a discussion about people jumping out of heir air lien. the reality of it is the american constitution was founded in taxation without reputation. i think what we're seeing is taxation without performance. people are weary of paying ritz quality taxes and getting boats
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ak and really nothing happening in washington, d.c. you wonder if that will have an all an impact on our elections in discussed a few months from now. what are your thoughts out there and how we respond in this shows this is democracy at plate plai. a vote matters. >> first i think the most unhappy american waking up today must be hillary clinton. everything looked like this was going to go through and england was going to remain by 4 points. i think the other part that is significant here is the democrats in america nominated their insider candidate, whereas the republicans goj play out in
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inc. land. >> mark ashe, hopefully we can bring you back in just a few minutes. we have to jump to a break now but we'll be back right after this.
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she got full replacement on her tuffets. the burglar was later captured when he was spotted with whey on his face. call geico and see how much you could save on homeowners insurance. and now a fox news alert. 8:00 in the morning where they have voted to leave the european union >> any moment now prime minister david cameron will come out and give a few re, mas. we know he campaigned to stay in the eu. it will be interest -- interesting to hear what he has to say. the markets are just opening up. >> 8:00 a.m. in the british union. the implied opening based on the future is that it could be down eight or nine percent. we could see a bottom fall out of the financial markets at least in