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o'reilly will be back on monday to make the factor great again. i'm eric bolling, and please remember the spin stops here because we're looking out for you. breaking tonight, a remarkable week between donald trump and the media. he's being accused of inciting violence against hillary clinton and of believing that mrs. clinton and the president were the founders of isis. trump today insisting he's simply misunderstood and he is misrepresented by the media. is he? and if so how might the media influence the outcome of this election? at what point does this start to become a self-fulfilling prophecy? welcome, everyone, to "the kelly file," a special trump versus the media. i'm trish regan in for megyn kelly tonight. so let me walk you through it. quite a week. on wednesday, trump was declaring that president obama and hillary clinton were the
founders of the terror group known as isis. this remark coming just 24 hours after his comments about second amendment supporters comments which some interpret as a call for violence against the democratic nominee. he insists it is not. meanwhile, he told a conservative radio host this about the president and clinton's role in creating isis. listen. >> last night, you said the president was the founder of isis. i know what you meant. you meant that he created the vacuum. he lost the peace. >> no. i meant he's the founder of isis. i do. he was the most valuable player. i give him the most valuable player award. i give her too. >> he's not sympathetic to them. he hates them. >> i don't care. he was the founder. >> today, he said nah, i was just kidding on that writing that quote, the media needs a serious lesson in sarcasm. not only did trump suggest he was kidding, he said this at his pennsylvania rally today. >> so i said obama is the
founder of isis. the founder. and these dishonest media people the most dishonest people they said, oh did he mean? obviously i'm being sarcastic. then then -- but not that sarcastic to be honest with you. >> maybe this is why people show up at these rallies. a little bit of humor there. trump campaign national spokesperson katrina pierson joins us in moments. but first we have more from chief political correspondent carl cameron, who has more from pennsylvania tonight. carl. >> reporter: thanks trish. trump here in altoona, pennsylvania this evening went back to the well when it comes to barack obama being the quote, founder of isis. as you just showed earlier today, he continues to bedate himself on this issue. tonight he renewed that. listen to the new version. >> i have been for numerous days sarcastically saying he is the
founder of isis. don't forget when he took over i think they were in eight countries, seven countries. now i understand they're in 28 countries. they're rampant all over the world. so i've been saying and i'll keep saying because it's true but somewhat sarcastically, i've been saying he's the founder of isis, and i say she's a close second. if it weren't for them you probably wouldn't even have isis. >> self-contradictory statements like that explain why so many republicans have doubts about trump's ability to beat hillary clinton come election day, and there are a number of polls in battleground states that suggest clinton has been surging and trump has been fairly flat in the polls since his convention. new marist polls in florida say trump has slipped to five points behind clinton. in north carolina she's ahead nine points 48% to 39%. in virginia, clinton's up 13 points, 46% to 33%. and in colorado he now trails by 14 points behind hillary
clinton. here in pennsylvania polls this week suggest that hillary clinton has pushed out to a lead and today trump said the only way he's going to lose pennsylvania is if there's voter fraud. cheating is he word he used and he urged his voters when they go to the polls in november to watch for any of it. and if they see any irregularities to call the sheriff or the cops. trish. >> thank you very much carl. joining us right now to respond to the week that was and what's coming up katrina pierson, trump campaign national spokesperson. katrina, the media can't take a joke? >> well they can, but not when a republican tells a joke. i mean the sarcasm is definitely one-sided. i don't recall a four-day fallout or even follow-up questioning when hillary clinton said she wiped her server clean with a cloth. no one asked if it was a terry cloth, if it was microfiber because she knew she was kidding. and this is the exact same thing. and when trump says it was sarcasm but not really of course he's being sarcastic about obama being the literal
founder of isis. of course obama didn't file any paperwork of incorporation, but he's very serious because it was the obama/clinton failed foreign policies that gave birth to isis because we know for a fact they ignored the intelligence coming from the middle east. >> hugh hewitt gave him the opportunity to basically say that and he said no no he's the founder. she's the founder. is that in part because he's trying to drill this message in to people that in fact it is the failed policies of the obama administration that have led to the rise of isis? >> oh absolutely. and even further in that hugh hewitt interview, he talks about the policies and how horrible that they were the way they went into iraq and exited and basically put all of their positions out there for all the public to see. but this goes further than that because i've heard specifically over at cnn saying well donald trump said he would have followed the same timeline. you cannot compare a private citizen that does not have access to intelligence
information like the august 2012 dia report which told obama and secretary clinton that if you go in and arm the rebels in syria, if you do x, y, and z, this is what will happen. they told them in that report in 2012 that there would be a vacuum created and also told them that isis itself would form the islamic state. and general flynn came out and reported blatantly that this wasn't just a blind eye the president and hillary clinton turned. it was willfully ignored intelligence and now we have global terrorism. >> you know let me ask you, katrina. do you think in some ways he's -- he's hurt by the fact that he is willing to go out there and speak so candidly at these rallies, not on teleprompter. i mean hillary clinton it's been 250-plus days since she's had a legitimate press conference. i think the last one was the one where that server joke came up. he's out there talking all the
time. is this what's getting him in trouble? >> i think it's only getting him in trouble with those who have an agenda. the american people see right through this. there's no question about that. hillary clinton can turn out 150 people to her events. donald trump is turning out 15,000. donald trump is speaking past the mainstream media, past the pundits, and speaking directly to the folks, and that's what's important. i wouldn't even look at these polls coming out right now. we saw the last couple of weeks nbc, and abc, those guys were all weighting their polls differently to show hillary clinton above. i have no doubt this is the same thing happening because they see that crowd as well. remember trish, we were told for a year donald trump didn't have a campaign. it was awful. he didn't have staff. there was no ground game and he broke the record in turnout. so the trump campaign we're just fine. we're moving forward and heading into november. >> we'll be watching. thank you so much katrina pierson. so you know katrina talked about the polls. we're going to get to those in a little bit, but she also mentioned whether or not these
controversies matter in the minds of voters. she says they don't. here to debate it den dom niche, and marcy stetch vice president of communications at emily's list. what do you think the takeaway is for the average voter out there? >> i have to say this -- i'm not typically on this program defending something from donald trump, but this week the pearl clutching that i saw from the media over these comments it was just silly. it was gas lighting. this reaction as if he was suggesting that obama had actually organized and founded isis and somein some sort of serious way is ridiculous. were they asking these questions when they said donald trump was the lead recruiter for isis. were they asking this when elizabeth warren was saying republicans wanted to sell guns to isis. this is say foreign policy critique he's making. it's a typical trump exaggeration because he knows if you say created a vacuum that's
not something that's going to get reported about. this comment does. >> yet the other side is doing it. we heard both president obama and mrs. clinton refer to this exact same thing in their own style, in their own way. marcy, i'm going to play this for you, and i'd like your reaction. >> i think the kinds of rhetoric that we've heard too often from mr. trump and others is ultimately helping do isil's work. >> he is becoming isis' best recruiter. they are going to people showing videos of donald trump insulting islam and muslims in order to recruit more radical jihadists. >> whoa. all right. so where was the media then marcy? >> look i have to tell you this week watching donald trump do what he has been doing, defending himself, defending sexual harassment in the workplace, talking about -- >> no no. marcy, forgive me but i did play that clip for you. i want to get your reaction. what do you think of those on the left saying stuff like that and not being held accountable
for that? >> there is absolutely some merit to the questions donald trump is being asked every single day about his credibility on the issues and the ability to keep the american people safe. look i think that we saw this week donald trump incited violence against hillary clinton. >> okay. again, you didn't respond to what i showed you. look i'll let you have a shot at it ben. those folks, both hillary clinton and barack obama essentially said the same thing. i mean maybe they've got a better tone more stylized tone but the exact same stuff. >> i certainly wish that donald trump would talk less and smile more but i think this is a situation where unfortunately for the media, the fact is that in january, donald trump said that hillary clinton and barack obama were the inventors of isis the creators of isis and the founders of isis. he said it three different times in january. here's the difference. in january, he was beating up on other conservative candidates and the media didn't care about it. now he's beating up on hillary clinton, and they do. >> in january he wasn't the republican nominee for president of the united states. >> so the media changes the way
they approach somebody -- >> everything he says is on the table, and the media's job is to ask questions and dig deeper. >> i got one more for you because he was under a lot of criticism as well this week for what many said was inciting violence that second amendment supporters were going to go out and there would be this call to arms for potentially the assassination -- a horrible thing to talk about -- of hillary clinton. he said no that's not what i meant at all. but here you go. how do you like this? back in 2008 hillary clinton is being asked why don't you get out of this race? because you know why? the media wanted obama to take it. here's what she said. listen. >> my husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the california primary somewhere in the middle of june right? we all remember bobby kennedy was assassinated in june in california. i, you know regret that if my referencing that moment of
trauma for our entire nation and particularly for the kennedy family was in any way offensive. >> offensive? i mean here you've got the first african-american candidate who has actually got a shot at winning the nomination and she's talking about bobby kennedy and assassination? i mean so again, you know, two wrongs don't make a right. but i would hesitate to say that donald trump was going as far marcy, as she actually went there. >> i have to tell you that these conversations that we're having right now about things she said years ago are not actually what voters are thinking about and talking about on a regular basis. right now they want to talk about the issues. >> i mean that's where the media seems to be falling short because nobody remembered what she said in -- >> what we are experiencing right now is not mitt romney versus barack obama. look i am a democrat. in 2012 when mitt romney won that election if he would have won that election i would have been upset, but you know what? i wouldn't have been concerned about the safety of the american people. >> we heard that back then as well.
didn't we hear that mitt romney was going to be a disaster for the country? >> "the new york times" called him unfit. they said he was someone you couldn't trust in this office. look this is the situation. the voters care about the fact that under president obama and that under hillary clinton, we saw mistakes made in syria and libya across the middle east that led to the rise of isis. the question of who's going to deal with it going forward is now before them and they have to decide who they're going to trust. >> lots of good stuff to talk about in the coming days. thank you so much to both of you. new calls, everyone to investigate hillary clinton's charity as we get reports that the justice department may have shielded the clinton foundation from the fbi. attorney david wall and alan combs are here on that on whether we can expect answers from the clintons anytime soon anytime at all. plus donald trump is slamming the media for what he's calling an obvious bias in favor of hillary clinton. dr. ben carson says the media is focusing on trump for one simple reason. he's next. >> the biggest rigger of the system is the media.
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the clinton foundation. >> that was former secretary of state hillary clinton on fox news sunday with chris wallace, insisting that she kept official government business separate from the work of her multibillion-dollar family charity, the clinton foundation. but tonight there are new reports being added to a growing list of allegations that those lines were blurred between the state department and the clinton foundation. and investigators and lawmakers are taking this very seriously. fox news correspondent rich etson is live in washington with the latest for us. >> reporter: good evening, trish. a top senate republican is urging the department of justice to investigate the connection between the clinton foundation and the state department. in a letter to attorney general loretta lynch, texas republican senator john cornyn writes representatives of the foundation repeatedly sought special treatment for its donors and associates from senior officials at the state
department. this conduct is unacceptable and reflects the worst concerns harbored by the public about the abuse of government office to bennett powerful. clinton andin -- in january, investigating the possibility intersection of the state department and the clinton foundation. senior justice department communication officials maintain that they know of no current investigation into hillary clinton or the clinton foundation. however, she's same officials say if there were an investigation by other offices, they may not know about it. the clinton campaign is also defending a trip by then secretary clinton's chief of staff, cheryl mills. she traveled to new york to conduct business for the clinton foundation. a clinton campaign spokesman says quote, cheryl volunteered her personal time to a charitable organization as she has to other charities. cheryl paid for her travel to new york city personally and it was crystal clear to all involved that this had nothing to do with her official duties. the idea that this poses a
conflict of interest is absurd. a state department spokesperson adds government employees can work on other projects on their own time as long as they follow federal ethics rules. >> rich edson, thank you so much. as we await responses to these new and lingering questions over the clinton foundation there are now growing concerns tonight over whether hillary clinton will ever give the american people any answers at all. because the last time mrs. clinton held a traditional news conference -- how do you like this? december 4th 2015. that was 252 days ago. one reporter going so far as to say, you know she is the least accessible presidential nominee in modern times. david wolfe is an attorney and trump supporter, and alan colmes is host of the alan colmes show. david, what's she so afraid of? >> well i mean trish, granted she doesn't speak too well off
teleprompter and she doesn't tend to ad-lib too well. she has serious fifth amendment issues. it's been scandal after scandal. first the e-mail server scandal, then the perjuring herself at benghazi sanl. now these 44 e-mails indicate that her chief of staff -- and don't tell me it wasn't at her direction -- engaged in beneficial activities for fat cat donors to the clinton foundation basically in total violation of ethical standards. and in my estimation this could be public corruption criminal charges. so if i'm advising hillary clinton, i'm going to tell her, you know what you're not going to do any press conferences because if you give the wrong answer to one of these questions that are no doubt forthcoming, you could be handcuffed the next day. it's that serious. >> not to mention she's not, as you said earlier, the most natural in those situations with those press conferences. alan you know i got to say, this stuff just doesn't look good. the appearance of it sure doesn't feel good. your thoughts. >> it may not feel good to you.
>> it can't feel good to anyone. i don't want a member of my government you know taking payouts. >> well, there's no evidence of that. that's not been proven. >> let me jump in and you'll get a chance. but one thing that really i have found issue with -- and again i come from a financial background -- united bank of switzerland. about about 55,000 clients. they went to hillary clinton and the state department and guess what? she got them off the hook. it turned out only 4,500 of them had to be investigated by the irs. that was a good deal. then the biggest speaking fee of bill clinton's year $1.5 million in speaking fees he collected from the united bank of switzerland after this whole thing goes through. alan i look at that and i say, you know couldn't she have said hey, hon, maybe sit this one out. you're making enough money already. i'm doing a deal with them on the side.
again, it speaks to this inherent conflict of interest that -- >> again, there's no evidence that there's any quid pro quo here. cheryl mills was on her own time. that's already been proven. >> please alan. >> if i could please finish a thought. david, you just accused hillary clinton of perjury. she's not been indicted. she's not been convicted. you're putting out false information. >> jim comey came out of his press conference and say, yes, she did lie about the e-mail information at the benghazi hearing. >> she was not convicted of perjury. she was not indicted. you're making a false claim. you're making a false claim. >> he said i need a referral and i'll investigate it. but he said yes, she did lie. >> why wasn't she indicted then? >> because he didn't have a referral to investigate. >> david's right. effectively he said she was not fully truthtruthful. >> i don't know how she gets indicted when the president would effectively be indicting his own administration. he had a little bit of a self-interest in making sure the doj did not do that.
>> you had a republican fbi head saying that there was no press dense to indict. there was no reason and there was no intent. that's the reason why. >> alan alan -- loretta lynch -- >> hang on one second david. there's more news coming forward that i want to get to because we just have a short amount of time. >> okay. >> but we are hearing reports that the fbi did want an investigation into perceived conflicts the clinton foundation and the state department and that doj shut them down. alan you know i realize that you know you're more on the left and you're advocating her side. >> proudly. >> however, isn't there a part of you that just says you know maybe it's work checking out because it sure doesn't seem right? >> i would question that you have john cornyn who you mentioned in the introduction who wants to have her investigated in the middle of an election season. gee, i wonder what the agenda here. i question the timing of all of this on the behalf --
[ overlapping voices ] >> by the way, you're supporting a candidate who superior for fraud in is up for fraud. >> a civil suit? i'm not worried about a civil suit. we both agree that loretta lynch won't do anything as far as prosecuting hillary clinton. could it possibly be that her boss has formally endorsed hillary clinton? >> i don't know. maybe it's a conflict there. >> good to see you. >> she's not acting because the fbi said there was no reason to indict. >> thank you. coming up everyone it's not just trump. the media has it out for conservatives as a whole. mark thiessen and rich lowry are going to join us on that. plus "time" magazine and others proclaiming it's meltdown time for donald trump with several outlets reporting on a, quote, come to jesus meeting with the republican national committee. has the media gotten ahead of itself here? we have howie kurtz here tonight. along with dr. ben carson campaign insider. that's next. >> you know i've run out of
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television when if comes to balancing coverage of donald trump and hillary clinton. the media research center points to multiple headlines they deem double standards. "the new york times," wednesday, in all caps blares trump's suggest gun owners act against clinton. alarm at his remarks. from "the washington post." trump decries for gun remarks. critics see his comments on second amendment as a threat against clinton. and from "usa today," second amendment people his secret weapon trump hints. howie kurtz has more live from our washington bureau. howie. >> trish, if one image could capture the recent coverage of donald trump, it would be this "time" magazine cover. meltdown. the media's more hostile approach began with trump's speech at the republican convention. >> what donald trump did tonight is a disgrace. >> the republican party that i worked for for two decades died in this room tonight. we are now represented as a party by a man who believes in
protectionism, isolationism and nativism. >> the press also ripped trump during the democratic convention for what seemed a sarcastic invitation to russian hackers to dig up hillary clinton's 33,000 deleted e-mails. >> you know i've run out of words to express, you know my shock and how completely beyond the pale that donald trump is as a potential leader of the free world and commander-in-chief of our country. >> then came the media backlash when trump criticized a gold star family after the muslim father khizr khan denounced him at the philadelphia convention. some pundits even questioned his sanity. washington post columnist gene robinson calling trump flat out crazy. >> it seems like a lot of people around him, even in his managerial inner circle if that isn't a contradiction in terms, are wondering if not about his sanity about his ability to control himself. >> there was another media uproar when the republican nominee said clinton, as president, would essentially abolish gun rights but that
second amendment people might be do something. >> donald trump spoke off the cuff and took his campaign off the rails, again. >> let me say this to my republican party. you are -- you are letting donald trump destroy the party, and you've done it from the beginning. >> you don't say stuff like that. it can be seen otherwise, and it's not the press. it's not the democrats. this is a self-inflicted wound. >> and trump has been stepping up his own rhetorical assault on those who cover him. >> i would actually say that the media is almost as crooked as crooked hillary clinton. i mean that. i mean that. >> the question now, does trump deserve the tidal wave of negative headlines or is there a bias against him? >> i guess one of the worth while questions is at what point does it become a self-fulfilling
policy. if there is a huge pile-on effect and everyone is running headlines that you've seen and the time cover that you've referenced then does that really seal his fate? >> at some point, the sheer volume of all this trump coverage -- not all of it negative but a lot of it negative as you see, whether donald trump's invited some of it or not with some of his language -- becomes an imbalance in the way that he is covered versus hillary clinton. >> howie, we're going to see you a little bit later on in the show. thank you so much. our next guest says all the controversies playing out right now around donald trump are due to the fact that the media has a bull's-eye on mr. trump's back. dr. ben carson is joining me now. dr. carson if the media indeed has set their targets on trump, then might he want to maybe not do so many live rallies, so many unscripted events? i mean should he be backing off this impromptu stuff? >> not necessarily because, you
know this is really a battle between the establishment, the political establishment and donald trump, who is seen as an insurgent. and some of the political establishment is on the republican side too. they're not all on the democrat side but most of them are. and they've been working for a very long time to get to this point, and he threatens them. they need just one more term so they can get two to four supreme court picks and stack the federal court system and then it really doesn't matter who is the president after that. they know that. and he is a huge threat to that. so they're going to pick apart everything that he has to say. and as long as they can talk about him all the time they don't have to talk about hillary because, my goodness her negatives are through the roof. but if you never get to talk about them then the people don't know about them. >> you know you see so many on the conservative side the conservative elites that are also very critical of donald
trump. have they effectively sealed his fate as well? in other words, if they had embraced him earlier in this process more fully, might we be looking at a different situation in terms of some of the poll data we see? >> well the fact of the matter is if the republicans, conservatives, the people with common sense start working together there is just no way the progressives can overcome them. the progressives know that so they have to spend a lot of time and energy convincing the conservative group that there's a real problem here and that you can't really get behind this person, and then they're going to go home and laugh their heads off. you know conservatives and republicans always seem to find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. we cannot let it happen this time because we're talking about our children and our grandchildren. we're talking about the future of this nation. people have to get over their little things and look at the
big picture here. this is huge. >> you know dr. carson we're going to talk a little bit later in the show about how the media has treated conservatives all along, including mitt romney. but one of the common themes that you hear over and over again is that this person is unfit. they said mitt romney was unfit. they say donald trump is unfit. it seems to be a big talking point from the left. but as i look at this campaign it has ratcheted up to a level that i don't think we've necessarily seen previously. is that a fair assessment? >> i think it's a fair assessment, but it's going to get a lot worse. if the polls begin to tighten or donald trump gets in front, you will see things that you've never seen before. they will pull out all the stops because like i said there's a lot at stake for them and they know that. now, the media unfortunately has become complicit with the progressive movement and my hope is that some of the young journalists will shake
themselves free of the influence of those who are leading them astray and stand up with courage and say, you know there's a reason that the press is protected by the constitution. and we are going to stand with the people and we're going to be objective. i don't care what's going on. we're going to ask the hard questions no matter who it is. i hope to see that. >> dr. carson you're absolutely right. there needs to be more objectivity, so for the media to completely write him off this early in the game frankly isn't following through on their obligations to be actual journalists in this whole process. thank you so much. donald trump taking on the media again today. we will investigate his claims and analyze whether or not his battle with the press is helping or hurting his campaign. plus we go back in time to dig up some of the media's worst attacks against gop figures. mark thiessen and rich lowry, they're going to join me on that next. >> it took the president 14 days before he called the attack in benghazi an act of terror.
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we're taking a closer look at donald trump's often cynical portrayal in the media over these past 14 months. but it's worth noting that there trump is in some ways just the latest in a long line of nominee who's have faced a somewhat hostile press. george w. bush was called murderous and a fascist. john mccain was called intellectually shallow, and mitt romney was called unfit -- we've heard that one -- for office. joining me now mark thiessen and rich lowry. good to see you guys. >> hi there. >> mr. thiessen i want to start with you because you had to have confronted some of this head-on
there as you were working for president bush. what was your experience? >> oh absolutely we did. look i mean media bias is a fact of life for republicans that we just have to live with. it's just like in the olympics when the american athletes always knew that the soviet judge was going to rule against them every time they could. it was just the rare fact of life. you can recall in the bush administration how much press coverage there was of unfounded and now proven wrong accusations that the bush administration doctored intelligence on iraq. well just this week we have a report from congress proving that the obama -- under the obama administration centcom doctored the intelligence on iraq. there's almost no coverage of it. if you look at the 2012 campaign mitt romney was made fun of for saying that russia was our number one strategic enemy. they had fun saying the 1980s called. they want their foreign policy back. now they're beating trump up for the opposite.
>> i have a question for you rich. why is it that so many people in the media are not objective, are actually that far to the left that i think many now feel as though it's their duty to influence the story in a way that hurts conservatives? >> yeah i think trish it's even worse than that. there's an ingrained liberal culture in the media that's self-reinforcing and is so pervasive, a lot of journalists are biased without even realizing it because they swim in this ocean of liberalism. and, you know everything that mark said is correct. i think the most stark example, though was john mccain. he was beloved by the media his entire career. he would joke about how the media was actually his political base. and then as soon as he won the republican nomination the media viciously turned on him. so this is not an unusual phenomenon that the press is so hostile to donald trump. but that doesn't mean that he should be reckless about it and
constantly give them material and i think the question you're asking ben carson a little earlier was very sound. control your message at the rallies more. do fewer interviews. >> don't give them the opportunity, right? >> this week should have been about two things his economic speech and about those devastating judicial watch e-mails. everything else is a loss for donald trump. but instead we've had this nonsense conversation about various gaffes and controversies all week. >> you talk about the institutional bias and i think that's very interesting. i also like dr. carson question if that can change. he made the point that there are younger journalists that are coming into this field every day, and how is it that they're getting so entrenched mark with what everyone else in the organization is telling them to do? >> i think rich is exactly right, that they swim in this pool of liberal bias and they don't even realize it. but the difference between then and now is that at least in the past they used to feign objectivity. they used to pretend they
weren't biases. we had a story in "the new york times" this weekend, quote, let's face it. balance has been on vacation since trump stepped into his golden elevator last year. he said many reporters think donald trump will be dangerous for the country. therefore, if you think donald trump is dangerous, that has to affect your coverage. they're not even pretending to be objective anymore. >> they're patting themselves on the back for being biased. >> exactly. on the front page of "the new york times." >> you guys it's so good to see you. thank you so much. >> thanks trish. a new narrative emerging from today's headlines. donald trump is continuing to look at those he is highly challenged in this race. we have many polls out saying that it's going to be an uphill battle and you have seen a number of media organizations really reflect a bias in that they are saying it is over. is it really over?
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with the media. mr. trump's allegations of unfair coverage they started almost immediately after he announced his bid for the white house back in june 2015. and since then the billionaire businessman has called many in the media, quote, dishonest and part of a rigged system that is working against him and his supporters. fox news host howie kurtz investigated these claims and joins us now with his report. >> trish, from the moment donald trump got into the presidential race much of the media mocked or minimized his chances. a loud-mouth new york billionaire beating all those senators and governors? really? new york's daily news depicted trump as a clown. "the huffington post" relegated all trump stories to its entertainment section. and most pundits dismissed him as a summer fling. >> i think this is donald trump's biggest day, and he will be ignored from henceforth. >> and we better be ready for the fact he might be leading the republican ticket. >> i know you don't believe that but i want to go on.
>> but the laughter faded as trump all but clinched the nomination. david brooks says he was surprised by trump's success because he spent too much time with affluent professionals like himself. >> i didn't think -- not only did i not think he would win, i didn't think he was really running for president. i thought he was trying to drum up some kind of publicity for himself. >> now with trump slipping in the polls, much of the media is again suggesting or flat out predicting that he can't beat hillary clinton. the republican nominee meanwhile practically made press bashing part of his platform. he skips a fox news debate while feuding with mel inkelly. he yanked the press credentials with "the washington post" and politico and now refuses to appear on cnn and msnbc. >> we're going to punch through the media. we have to. "the new york times" is totally dishonest, totally dishonest. and cnn -- boy does cnn -- it's like all trump, all the time.
you walk out of an interview, you said that was a good interview, and then you get killed for the rest of the weekend. >> that kind of tough talk fired up his base during the primaries. but in a general election l it's not clear if trump is being damaged by the constant war fair. >> why is the media not spending more time on the actual policies that would actually be meaningful to our country? here we are talking about the horse race all the time all the things that donald trump does. but nobody out there -- aside, i would point out, from us because we do dive into this policy. but they're not out there talking about his economic platform. it's almost as though they're afraid to. >>le with, well the press is addicted to polls and flap of the day and insults and all of that. what's happened now is that day by day, hour by hour really you have all of these controversies swirling around trump. some of them media generated. some of them self-generated and very little devoted to hillary clinton who i think is deliberately trying to make little news and let the media
and trump bronx itox it out in the ring. >> it's been 252 days since she had a press conference so she ternl is trying to stay out of the headlines and perhaps let him grab the spotlight for attention she doesn't want. joining our conversation we have nellie gulan. she is the former president of entertainment for telemundo and the author of the new york times best selling book self made. good to have you here. i do want to ask you, it's been remarkable in that we've seen a tremendous shift, i think, in how politics is done. the politicking, if you would, of this campaign in that donald trump is out there tweeting. he's out there, you know on various media channels talking to his supporters and getting his base excited. does this mean that going forward, there is going to be a real shift in accessibility of politicians? >> well i think so. i mean look he is a tv person. i mean i was on celebrity apprentice with him. he's someone who knows how to be
scandalous and we has the public love scandal and love arguing. and everything we're talking about today in the media, i mean it's all changed because he's the first real tv personality president. >> but it's one thing to have scandal on a reality tv show. it's another thing to have scandal when you're running for president. >> that's right. i think as someone who just wrote a book about women and latinas being the emerging market and the fastest growing entrepreneurs, i feel like he's missed the boat on talking about women like me. and he's not talking to us. so we're sitting here going, oh my gosh. all this scandal, and, you're right, we're not talking about the facts. we're not talking about the public that's out there that wants real things talked about. >> we need to spend time on that policy because there's a lot of meaty stuff for to all chew into. thank you so much, nely and howie. we'll be back with more kelly file after this.
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file. i'm trish regan in for megyn kelly tonight. i will see you on the fox business network at 2:00 p.m. the intelligence report where i am every day. i'll see you there on monday and back here on monday night. have a greet weekend. "hannity." huckabee is in for hannity next. welcome to this special edition of "hannity," road to the white house. hello, everyone. i'm muk mike huckabee and i'm in tonight for sean. with 87 days to go before the general election republican presidential nominee donald trump is pounding the campaign trail. mr. trump has been very busy talking to voters in several key swing states and earlier today, he held a couple of big rallies in pennsylvania. here's a look at some of the high lights. >> i spent less and won in a landslide. other people spent much much more three, four five times more and they came in seventh. who the hell