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humane and compassionate removal of victims of this tragedy. i want to assure you we are continuing to operate a 24/7 recovery operation to effectuate that removal. martha: what an awful story. so far only a few have been identified as families and friends await words on their loved ones. bill: meantime there are questions emerging about the safety of that building, with one former resident saying it is a deathtrap. they're not ruling out possibility of a criminal cause. all that when the press conference begins live in oakland. martha: fox news alert as president-elect trump announced another addition to the cabinet. he tapped dr. ben carson as secretary of housing and urban development. we have new reports the secretary of state search has been expanded to former utah governor mike huntsman and former head of9
vice president-elect mike pence says he has faith mr. trump will make a good choice. >> to talk to the president-elect, he is simply looking for the best men and women to advance the agenda that we know will make america great again. martha: peter doocy live outside of trump to youer in new york city. peter, how many people is the president-elect still actually considering for this job of secretary of reporter: it is more than four, martha. so the short list that the transition team had been focusing on for last week has gotten lond e longer. transition team officials had some folks in mind to become the next top diplomat. they didn't know the people were available until now. >> one thing that really strikes us, this is not unique to this president or is unique, there are a number of people we may not have wanted to leave very lucrative private industry to work for government.
they're coming forward. it is exciting at least to get their council. reporter: one of the highest profile names now being floated as a short lister, former utah governor and ambassador to china jon huntsman, who we just heard from. >> greatly honored it is in the mix and expand ad large group of people. i have not had the meeting. i think it is really important. says something about the president-elect, he is taking this job very seriously. he is reviewing the candidates. he is looking at the issues. bringing up different voices, see differently america's role in the world. that's a good thing. reporter: and it is very interesting to hear that a china expert like ambassador huntsman is now in the mix because mr. trump made waves at the very end of last week having first phone call with a taiwanese president in more than four decades. martha: that raised a lot of eyebrows. we'll talk about it more.
jon huntsman was ambassador to the china for the united states for some time. peter, thank you very much. bill: let's drop in on oakland and get mower on the tragedy. >> we have the deputy sheriff who will provide you more additional information regarding victims, loss, families that have been notified. we also have battalion chief drayton, who will be able to update you regarding the work that the fire department has done along with other agencies who have been assisting. i would like to turn it over to deputy modest, thank you. >> good morning. my name is tya modest, spokesperson for the a la media county sheriff's office. we have located and recovered 36 victims. >> speak up please? >> yes. since our last update we have
located and recovered 36 victims. of the 3611 about an identified and their family members have been appropriately notified. that number is inclusive of the eight that were, the number eight that was given last night. at this time we won't be updating this morning the list of names of the located and identified victims. we are giving the family members an opportunity to update other family members to notify them and give them an opportunity to grief together before we release those additional names. >> thank you. >> good morning, once again. can you hear me? the fire department last night at approximately 10:00 was asked by atf and our local
investigators to stop our recovery work in the back of the building based on the fact that we now feel very strongly that we have the section of the building that was the area of origin where the fire started. the investigators will be here in just a few hours to start building out their team and really getting deeper into that area of the building. again it is the back of the building, when we enter and go straight back, center of the wall, center of the building we have a square footage area that has been quarantined off for additional investigation and just after midnight we had some crews doing some surveilling and reconnaissance on the next door roof and noticed a slight lean in the parapet on the a-side of the building, the front of the warehouse, at the very top of the exterior wall. we have about a three-inch lean
going into the center of the building. for us as firefighters working under a wobbly, potentially collapsing exterior wall is extremely dangerous. we will not put our firefighters at this point or we will not put alameda county sheriffs. we did a full work stoppage. we have not been continuing with body recovery since. all of the structural engineers and contract workers will be here to approximately 8:00 a.m. to develop a gameplan. we hope we will be back in the building between 12 and 2:00 today to continue the recovery efforts. >> we know you will have some questions, so we'll go ahead and start over here and we'll work our way to the left. >> could you describe what a
parapet is? >> so at the top of the exterior building, if you imagine where the roof meets the wall there is about a five-foot, unreinforced section of the exterior wall. it is leaning in three inches. it should be straight. we're concerned that unreinforced area potentially could collapse. >> how much of the building -- [inaudible] >> absolutely, at this point we are using the number 70% of the as area of the building that we have searched and efficiently and effectively done recovery back where the area of origin and front area based on safety concern has not been searched yet. >> do you believe there are still more victims -- [inaudible]
cause and we absolutely believe that the number of fire fatalities will increase. >> you say, so when 70%, when you get to 100% will you then conclusively say there are no more victims or will it take more after that to go through the remains of the building for sure? if you get to 100 day or tomorrow will the search be over at that point? >> i -- >> can you speak up a little bit louder. >> when you get to 100 percent, the search once it is done at that point will the search for remains be over or will they have to sift through the remains looking for more? will it be completely done the search at 100%? >> once the search is completed, the primary focus has been on the location and recovery. that is what we've been talking about for the last three days. we're going, actually on day four. this started last friday, december 2nd. we're really on our fourth date.
the primary focus, to answer your question, sir, has always been on the search and recovery. once that is completed, then we'll start having the conversations and shifting this investigation to whichever direction is appropriate. right now it is a little bit too early. again as the battalion chief said, atf has been here. they need to do investigative work to determine which direction this investigation is going to go. very good question. we'll certainly keep everybody informed. we have right now, 36 families not only grieving for their lost ones, but they also want answers. we as a city collectively are working to provide answers. we want to provide endses not only for the families and the communities. also what we can learn from this in our attempts to prevent this happening again if there are lessons learned. amy, go ahead. >> i'm wondering, i know you
have been [inaudible] >> right. so we anticipate based on the weather reports that rain will start on wednesday and increase by friday. the fire department is very reticent in getting in too quickly today obviously. the natural desire for firefighters and anyone in public service is to quickly get in, mitigate a situation, mitigate and emergency and effect rescue, in this case recovery. we will not be going faster to get ahead of the rain. so we're going to be just as comprehensive, just as methodical and just as analytical to make sure we are successful in a full recovery in the next few days. >> [inaudible]ç
were they almost all out of the building or still in the warehouse. >> the last few days the majority over the last two days, since i've been on scene, were in the center of the building. >> how many -- [inaudible] >> go ahead, sir. >> question for you, donna. we know there has been a lot of talk about how inspectors have not been able to gain access to the building. police have been in that building at some point, even this year. would they have been required, if they saw something in there to let the city know that looked like people are living in here? maybe you guys should go check that? what would be the policy? >> that is a very good question and we anticipate a lot of those answers to come in the next days, next weeks. >> this is more of a policy question. >> i'm going to answer your question. so anytime law enforcement, such as the oakland police department first-responders go into any
situation, if they should notice any type of violations, if they should notice any criminal activity, they record it, we document it, forward it. i want to share with you the oakland police department were one of the first law enforcement agencies to have body-worn cameras. a lot of activity we do was recorded. let's say we came to the location, let's say there were concerns of a criminal concern or it's a violation, we may have captured that on our own body worn camera footage. this is a very large, not only incident but a tragedy. and so we immediately, working with other city services, complect tiffly, he one has been work through the weaken and rightfully so. we have a lost answers to provide to the families and to our communities. as we're looking at those answers we're looking at everything from our body-worn
camera footage, how many calls, we as the oakland police department have gone to. what types of calls, documentation. we're working with our planning and building department and alameda county district attorney. so we have a lot of moving parts to this and we'll find answers to all of these questions. we do request patience, time. we want to do a very thorough investigation. whichever direction that takes us, whether it is criminal or remains right now as an investigation, we want to be factual with our information. yes, and you have a question. >> yes. can you tell us more about the point of origin that is being investigated by the atf? >> i think her question was more information about the potential point of origin, is that correct? >> yes. >> based on the significant charring and damage in the
building we've got some areas where the steel is actually twisted and wrapped in the back of the building. we can see fire spread. atf and our local investigators feel very strongly they have identified the section of the building that is the area of origin. >> was that next to a kitchen or anything that we know of that -- >> it appears to be the back of theç building, if we imagine te artist's collective was on the first floor. potentially during this concert the dance floor was just above. >> go ahead. >> [inaudible] >> hot. >> [inaudible] >> extremely hot fire. >> did an electrical fire cause that? >> an extremely hot fire. no way to tell the cause. >> go ahead. >> [inaudible]
>> that's correct. a couple of folks are having a hard time hearing your question. work stoppage, absolute concern for the structure around the safety of the workers that are going in there and additionally, i know we can't to get into a lot of the questions about cause of fire, where it started, i think that the fire department is doing an excellent job facilitating a lot of complicated situations but we also want to talk with atf and have them have their opportunity to come in and do a full inspection where we can provide you more information. i will take, i will take one last question. sir, go ahead. go ahead, sir. >> were -- for the fire officials here. you said something i want to follow up on. did you indicate that this area they're looking at is the origin would have been on the first floor more likely than the second floor? >> it is hard to determine based
on the fact that we have fire damage all the way through to the roof on the back wall. it's in the raft percent on the steel beams. and, until we have is a an absolute i don't want to speculate whether or not it was first or second floor. >> the first answer you may have been indicating first floor am i wrong? >> no. >> we'll certainly provide more information, we would like to have atf on board and have the opportunity to determine causes, areas, things like that. we're going to conclude this portion of our media briefing. throughout the day we will continue to provide information to you. we'll send out a media availability for the next time and location. right now because of the work stoppage, because we have other crews that will be coming back and joining us, it's very difficult for us to set that time. we want to come back to you with
more information. as the alameda county sheriff's office stated we'll provide names of the lost loved ones later today. we'll make sure you do have that information. thank you very much for your patience. >> are you -- martha: what a tragedy. this is incredibly horrible fire and a tragic day for so many of these families. the headline out of this news conference, we just heard from the police information officer and the fire chief in oakland as well, 36 people confirmed dead in the fire that happened over the weekend, a rave, a concert on the second floor of this artist collective warehouse. the artists were residing on the firstç floor. this happened on the second floor. they are basically saying the origin fire was in the back wall along that area and they have had to stop work temporarily because one of those walls is about three inches leaning in an they're concerned about safety of those working on this investigation. so, this is an ongoing
investigation, as they said. and a lot will be said and asked about whether or not this building, which had no permits for residents and was obviously, it appears breaking a lot of rules. bill: no way out. 100 people are there and you have more than a third of the people lost their lives. more from oakland coming up shortly. in the meantime there is a lot to get to on this monday. paul ryan laying out his top priorities in the new year. number one is get rid of obamacare. >> we know we have to make good on this promise. we have to bring relief as fast as possible to people struggling under obamacare. bill: what else is high on the speaker's agenda? the relationship with donald trump. we'll talk to house majority leader kevin mccarthy. we'll talk about that. martha: one simple phone call causing a huge diplomatic dust-up, is the uproar justified or is donald trump doing something --
martha: it was lost and their families and everyone thoughts this morning in oakland, california. look at the scene this weekend. we can now tell you tragically 36 people are now confirmed dead in this awful fire that tore through this building and left people in the building with very few options in terms of how to get out. so we'll get more updates as we go throughout the day. we'll bring them to you live. there you see observation on the scene and investigation continuing at this hour. >> how often are you speaking to the president-elect? >> about every day. >> do you call him or does he call you? >> both. >> when you call over -- >> he answers his cell phone. he just answers the phone. >> you call donald trump on his cell phone. >> all the time. >> how does he answer what does he say?
>> he says hi, hello,. >> he doesn't say this is the president-elect? >> no, he is pretty casual guy. bill: pretty interesting back and forth. paul ryan looking at relationship with the president-elect. as congress gears up to make a new administration in january, man, do we mean new in every way. the house speaker saying creating jobs is a top priority. >> we really want to focus on economic growth and growing the economy. there are a lot of regulations really just crushing jobs. look at the coal miners in rust belt getting out of work. look at loggers and timber workers and paper mills in the west coast. look at ranchers or farmers in the midwest with the regulations. bill: that is just the beginning. a bit earlier i talked to house majority leader out of kevin mccarthy out of california about all this and more. kevin mccarthy, welcome back to "america's newsroom." >> good morning, paul ryan last
night said the first order of business is obamacare. is this something that could take three years to get done? >> no, we have to get this done quickly. obamacare is failing. premiums are skyrocketing. insurers pulling out of the network. individuals see time and time again of the failure of it. we first have repeal it and go through of think of health care differently. i put out just last week a letter to all governors and all insurance commissioners to give us their ideas as well. we've got to have a new approach when it comes to health care. bill: so in your view then, repeal and replace taking how long? >> well i'm not going to put a timeline on it because it is very first thing we've got to get done. i want to make sure we get it done right. first thing as soon as we get sworn in on the process of repealing it and replace it as well. bill: some say it will take three years. that is not going to happen, that is not acceptable? >> we have to get it done as soon as possible. premiums are skyrocketing as i said. they have less choice in the marketplace.
no one who believes obamacare is working. bill: regulation, paul ryan said a lot are just, crushing jobs, that is the phrase he used. give me one regulations that goes immediately? >> well, we're going, first of all, we'll look at anything that has executive order that he can pull. first thing we'll stop is idea of more regulations compounding on you. the obama administration has enacted or proposed 500 major rulings. a major ruling costs more than $100 million. the whole concept of business thinking a new one coming on and time and again, i think that is going to stop. why you see the market growing. entrepreneurship should be there. the first you thought should be government is here to help create jobs, not burden them into pushing them into another country. bill: you were in private practice before going to washington. give me one that goes away. >> the first one that will go away, we'll find, overtime rule. it is being held up.
you have continuing congressional review act on that if that goes through from the very start we can continue to work and that small businesses won't be laying people off. bill: all right. president-elect donald trump says there will be 35% import tax on goods made by american company that take their jobs overseas and try to sell that product back here at home. is that something you would support? >> i have to think we look at this. what the president-elect is talking about how to create more jobs here. the first way we do that is with tax reform. tax reform that you want to lower the burden and make greater incentive to be in america. right you no the incentive is an advantage to have a company outside of america for repatriation to keep your money outside. lower tax being imposed in another country f we lower the taxes make more incentive to be in america we could achieve that goal. bill: could you support 35%? >> you know what? thrill with be a lot of debates
out there. there are many ways of going about doing it m our process of better way there are ways we deal with companies in other parts country. i would like to see ideas on the table. bill: sounds like a no? is that a no. >> i do not want to get into a trade war. i want companies to be built in america. i think lowering the tax incentive is best way about doing that. bill: what is your relationship with donald trump? >> i have a great relationship with donald trump. i was actually a delegate to the convention. we talk about a lot of ideas and the way going forward. he is handling the administration right away. he is ahead of schedule making a new cab bet he is taking the time. i think the point america is not seeing,being a little lincolnesque. he is looking at people that did not support him or criticize him. it may be a team of rivals. it will be a new administration,
make america stronger on foreign policy but more importantly he is focused on jobs and economic growth. bill: i remember seeing you on the floor in cleveland with the california delegation. what is the expectation for the first one 100 days. >> i think people have high expectations. what we first have to do to show this is new administration. people have to realize his cabinet has to be confirmed. he has a supreme court appointment as well. the senate will be busy on many of those items. first and foremost there will job creation and economic growth. so when it comes to regulatory, when it comes to looking at a new health care system, but more importantly, transforming what this government has become too big. making sure it is able to deliver. va reform which so many of us talked about. the va system is broken. we can look at that i'm excited, i can't wait until the first day being sworn in. bill: lincolnesque sets the bar high. we shall see how it goes.
thank you for your time. kevin mccarthy majority leader from california the thank you, sir. martha: a lot happening. president-elect donald trump doubling down after facing backlash from taking a phone call from taiwan's president. mr. trump's senior aide kellyanne conway calling criticism is overblown. >> president trump is aware of one china policy. he accepted a call from the president of the taiwan. that is 40th or 50th leader that reached out to the president-elect. martha: was it more than just a phone call? was it calculated move by the president elect? we'll discuss. what if a company that didn't make cars made plastics that make them lighter? the lubricants that improved fuel economy. even technology to make engines more efficient. what company does all this? exxonmobil, that's who. we're working on all these things to make cars better and use less fuel. helping you save money and reduce emissions.
did china ask us is it okay to devalue their currency, making our companies hard to compete. the u.s. doesn't tax them or build a massive military complex in the south china seas? i don't think. mr. trump's senior aide kellyanne conway also defending that phone call. >> it is just a phone call at this point. it signals the fact he accept ad congratulatory call. i know china has perspective on it. the white house and state department have perspective on it. certainly taiwan has perspective on it. the president-elect's perspective he accepted a congratulatory call. martha: gillian turner, staffer for presidents bush and president obama, a fox news contributor. good to have you here. >> good morning. martha: we heard everybody weighing in what you think about this you believe this was a mistake, right, why? >> it was a mistake by which i mean i think it was a bad decision. i don't think it was an accident. i give the president-elect and
his team a lot more credit than that i believe he knew exactly what this was doing. this was part of a larger strategy to push back against china. what i take issue with is not the phone call itself or the fact that he had communications with leader of taiwan. i take issue with the fact that he ended up acknowledging the country's national sovereignty calling leadership their president and referring to them as a nation. that is very dangerous when it comes to our, the u.s. relationship with china, which is, as we all know, going to be very central to world order in the 21st century. martha: all right. in terms of what it potentially shakes up, i mean it could be that what mr. trump is trying to do is kind of open that dialogue with china and they push back a little bit. obviously one of our biggest concerns is north korea. we haven't always gotten where we want to get with china on north korea. does this open the door to begin a dialogue that might lead to that? >> so, what's happened here is
that, as much as i would like to see the president of the united states push back harder against china i just don't believe this was the way to do it. i think that the reality we still need china order to accomplish many of our objectives overseas. we need them as you mentioned, to help hedge against north korea's nuclear development and hold on to billions of dollars that of u.s. debt they currently own. if they were to sell that on it would precipitate a huge financial crisis here at home of the nuclear component here is one piece after larger puzzle. martha: if i get you right in terms of your first response, there was discussion over the weekend, oh, maybe donald trump doesn't even understand what our relationship is with taiwan on this or with china on this and he hasn't read, not listening to the briefings or state department. but what we're hearing this morning that is very far from the truth. that this was much more likely a calculated, discussed move with his kitchen cabinet secretaries of state he has been discussing things with? >> oh, absolutely.
i think that the criticism that this was a sort of gaff and this was spontaneous call that happened that he answered his cell phone that he had with him is little bit juvenile to be frank. one of the things president-elect trump has been thinking about since he started this campaign two years ago how he wants to reshape and reorder the united states bilateral relationship with china. how he wants our influence in the region to expand. how he wants to deal with the aftermath of president obama's pivot to asia. so this is something that he has been thinking about carefully. i just disagree with is had decision to acknowledge taiwan's national sovereignty in this phone call and in his subsequent comments. i think that was premature. martha: i think it is very clear the businessman in donald trump has been very disturbed by the trade relationship with china for many, many years. that he feels they're dumping their currency. that they're putting us at disadvantage. that the products we're getting from them are cheap.
i heard them talk about windows in pieces of buildings are completely substandard. so this is something that he has been living with for a long time, thinking about for a long time. is it possible he is doing a crazy like a fox thing like president nixon used to do and he throws them out there and wants them to react and opens door to having dialogue and more serious discussion than we've had in a long time? >> that could be very well his strategy. you hit the nail on the head. my concern there, when it comes to foreign policy and our relationships with other countries, there has to be a little bit more caution because, for example, we have people who have come forward like ambassador john bolton and he has said, and i agree with him on this point the president-elect should absolutely speak with any foreign leaders, any foreign heads of state he wants to. but at same time he can't express his personal opinion on the matter. donald trump from this point
forward needs to be aware he is setting policy and that foreign countries are viewing him as the future commander-in-chief. so there needs to be, when he proceeds forward with these kinds of moves he needs to think out a few steps ahead. think about the medium term m in case, well, how is china if they're really incensed by this how would they likely to retaliate. there are pretty ugly ways that they could retaliate that could hurt us. martha: like? >> like, selling off u.s. bonds, for example. acting to undermined our interests by continuing to allow cyberattackers to target u.s. government infrastructure. we need their help and cooperation on a host of issues is my point. towing the line is a little bit in order here. martha: gillian, thank you. great stuff. very interesting. good to see you this morning. >> thanks, martha. bill: michigan start as recount of the presidential hours from now. as jill stein keeps up the
pressure with upcoming news conference in trump tower. our panel debates that, what is driving her hon this debate from sunday. give it a listen. >> dr. stein, how many votes did you get in this election. >> how many votes did donald trump got? >> he got 62.5 million. >> he got 2 1/2 million less votes than hillary clinton. >> i got 62.5 million votes. how many votes did you get. >> dr. stein, could you answer the question? look at this... a silicon valley server farm. the vault to man's greatest wonders... selfies, cat videos and winking emojis. speaking of tech wonders, with the geico app you can get roadside assistance, digital id cards... or even file a claim. do that.. yeah, yeah that should work. it's not happening... just try again. uh, i think i found your problem. thanks. hmm... the award-winning geico app. download it today.
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it went from "fox news sunday." in about two hours, a recount in michigan begins. that is today at high noon. katie pavlich, townhall.com, marianne marsh, advisor for senator john kerry. i have a simple question for you. marianne, if she wins what does she win? >> well democracy wins. bill: oh. the whole system? >> i rarely, the whole system. i mean, this is one time we'll ever agree with jill stein who i was pretty critical of through this whole election. not about her, or hillary clinton or about donald trump this is the first presidential election we had without the voting rights act. there are plenty of questions raised in many states. michigan is the best example frankly, 4.9 million votes cast. 10,000 vote difference between the two, .2%. yet 88,000 ballots, cast mostly in detroit, nothing in the
presidential slot but they voted on every other race, twice as many blanks for the presidential race than in 2012. that should raise questions with everybody. bill: so the whole system of democracy rests on this? >> yes. bill: katie. simple question,. >> okay. bill: if she wins, what does she win? >> i'm not really sure what it means for her to win in this instance. jill stein's argument that the system has been hacked, is completely undermined in michigan where the director of elections has said there is no internet connection to their voting. ballots counted by voting machines. it is not connected to the internet. she does stand to benefit here. she raised more money with the recount effort than she did during her entire campaign. i find it a little bit rich someone like jill stein, comes from the side of the political spectrum has been against measures to prevent voter fraud is now all of sudden concerned about the legitimacy of the voting system in terms of voter fraud. they have fought tooth and nail against every single measure
that conservative groups, that middle of the road, non-partisan groups put into place to insure that there isn't fraud in the system. now all of sudden when she benefits financially, and tries to insert cynicism into the system and doubt into the legitimacy of the system, she's the one who is benefiting financial. i think that is real shame when it comes to breaking down the entire system for her personal gain. bill: she is raising money and making trump look less legitimate. if that is the case, marianne, republicans have been arguing from the beginning. kellyanne conway talk this on quickly too, watch. >> i would say to her give it up as it seems like you're doing in pennsylvania for very simple reason. even your friends in the clinton campaign have admitted that these recounts will not change any results. bill: pennsylvania, they gave it up on sunday, or over the weekend on saturday. marianne, come back to the question, what does she win? i mean, help us try to define that?
all seems like a stunt and it seems rather transparent. >> first of all, one quick point here, jill stein raised money because it takes money to do recounts. unfortunately we live in country where you have to have a bake sale to make sure that election was held fairly and accurately, number one. two, correctly, bill, with all respect, they didn't give up on pennsylvania recount. they're going to federal count. they're counting in philadelphia today. no, they're going to federal court. michigan asked for 1 million-dollar bond to have a hearing today, why they went to federal court instead. i think the question here is, donald trump will end up getting 3 million votes less than hillary clinton. he won the electoral college no question, but why would anyone object making sure all the votes were counted. >> that is not what this is about. bill: every vote 16 years ago. >> they have recounted 25,000 absentee ballots in philadelphia they found.
>> recounted votes in wisconsin based on those returns, hillary clinton went ahead by a single vote. >> that is not true. >> everyone is laughing at jill stein and largest newspaper in wisconsin scathing editorial against hillary clinton and jill stein asking what the point of this is. this isn't about making sure the system is fair and representtation of our democracy. this is about making money, getting attention and delegitimatizing president-elect trump when it was hillary clinton who said it was horrible if nine decided not to accept the results. >> one quick correction here. just before the recount started almost 4911 votes were found in error, tabulation error that all went to hillary clinton. >> doesn't change anything that happened. nothing changes electoral college. bill: i feel like i'm in tallahassee 16 years ago. >> right. bill: thank you, maryian. >> count all the votes. martha: dramatickistic video of
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>> evacuate, evacuate, evacuate. you are to leave everything behind. i mean everything behind. you will take only yourself and children and you are responsible for and exit the aircraft. bill: they walked out of that plane, scary moments. flight attendants warning passengers to prepare to evacuate. emergency landing. here is how it happened.
san antonio, united express plane nose gear collapsing, sparks flying. that plan was headed towards monterey but diverted. everyone was able to get out okay and the plane did not catch fire. one minor injury reported. well-done to the pilot and crew. martha: president-elect donald trump issuing not so veiled threat to american companies tweeting that any business looking to move jobs overseas could be making a quote, very expensive mistake. so what does he mean by that? charles payne, host of "making money" on the fox business network. >> good morning, thank you. martha: he is trying to discourage them from moving overseas. number one you say that would pass along costs to consumers is that true? >> 35%, most companies can't or won't that sort of a cost. they would stop making those particular products or try to pass some along to the consumer. donald trump ask following up great success with the carrier deal which is mostly carrot saying i still have the stick of
in my quiver of potential options. martha: in terms whether or not companies will start claiming that they're moving overseas in order to get these incentives and these, give-backs to their companies, do you worry about that? >> i don't. paul krugmans and bernie sanders say that i think companies, listen, most of these companies already announced. we have four or five companies, i have a list of them, are in the midst of moving jobs over. they announced them earlier this year. they don't do that overnight. i think it would be a dumb, dangerous ploy to play from public relations standpoint. many are saying we can not compete, even in america, let alone around the world with sort of onerous regulations an taxes foisted upon us, particularly over the last eight years. martha: i know you believe that it would be dangerous to trigger a trade war with china but when you look at the way that donald trump works, at least what we've learned so far, throws out the 35%, big number, the wall that stretches across our border, and then, that gives him room to kind of make some
negotiations short of that, right? >> sure. straight from "the art of the deal." you go out, let china know, we'll hit you hard, come at you hard. listen, but china is a very savvy competitor in this regard. i do believe we'll get concessions almost immediately on nafta from china and mexico, and canada, but china is different sort of foe. starting with a he have, very big number. i believe if we had a full-blown trade war, we would win but not without significant collateral damage and job losses in the country. people need to understand as we cheer for this. i would like to see donald trump come in, he campaigned lower taxes, cut regulations, make smarter trade deals, fix the infrastructure, unleash energy. also here is the thing, the key thing, get the economy booming. all those things mitigate the urg or the need to do this business outside of this country. martha: great points, charles, thank you very much. bill? bill: we're watching that and watching this.
trump tower, add another name on the list, dr. ben carson what he might do in the new administration. we'll get you more on the announcement. short list on secretary of state is getting kind of long. the latest on expanding search and what that might mean. so back with that and more. hey there, starting your search for the right used car? i don't want one that's had a bunch of owners just say, show me cars with only one owner find the cars you want, avoid the ones you don't plus you get a free carfax® report with every listing it's perfect. start your used car search at carfax.com
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department of housing and urban development. bill: you might remember dr. carson often talked about urban issues during the campaign. trump said ben shairts my optimism about the future of our country. he's a tough competitor and never give up. martha: joining us now, governor mike huckabee. good to have you with us this morning. there was discussion ben carson would be the head of health and human services. what do you think is significant about ben carson in this housing and urban development spot. he brings it with it a personal
story being raised by a single mom who insisted they get a good education. he understands housing and neighborhoods and how that effects people growing up. dr. ben carson is a brilliant man. he had been awarded by about every national and international organization in the world including the naacp for his humanitarian efforts. he brings a level of intelligence to this and i believe hud needs a revolution, if you will, to put focus back on home own hership and buying into it much like the habitat for humanity which i think is the best model we have in the country. martha: the second part of his
new title is urban development which he will do broadly as yo pointed out. a lot of people in this country wanted him to have a voice in this administration. and it speaks to mr. trump. he was reluctant, dr. ben carson, to take an official role. what may have transpired to convince him to do that? >> donald trump is a convincing salesman. that's what he has done his whole life, close the deal. i don't know what he did to convince him, but i'm glad he did. ben carson will bring i think a real perspective. nobody will be able to say ben you don't know what it's like to be growing up in an urban environment. you don't get it. he gets it. and he will be a silencer to many of the cite hoiks will say this administration isn't going
to live up to the promises for a true sense of looking at the problems america. >> some people think that president obama fell short in that regard in terms of speaking to african-american families, dealing with inner city issues, encouraging fathers to say with their families. but that he wasn't a strong enough voice on that front. he and ben carson have had tough exchanges. how do you think -- what do you think he will be like on the public stage on that issue? >> i think ben carson understands if you don't have strong families, you don't have a strong country. he will push for initiatives that will encourage families to stay as families where fathers stay in the home rather than become an economic advantage to get rid of the father.
our public policies have been deplorable. they pushed for single parenthood which is deb -- whics detrimental. a child who grows up in a single-parent home is 7% more likely to get involved in drugs. he's a great role model and a great dad. of all the things i disagree with barack obama, he's a great father and he could have used that platform in a more effective way. martha: he also knows what it's like to grow up without your dad. that's the experience of so many young people who don't have fathers in the inner city. governor huckabee, always good
to see you, sir. bill: this story in oakland staggering. the death toll now at 36. officials giving an update just last hour warning the number of dead is expected to rise. just a handful of victims have been identified, the flames breaking out during a party in a build if known as the ghost ship. >> we have a lot of moving parts to this. we'll find answers to all of these questions. we request patience, time. we want to do a thorough investigation whichever direction that takes us whether it's criminal oral remains an investigation. we want to be factual with pour information. bill: claudia cowen live from the scene. we understand recovery is on hold. why is that? reporter: that's because one of
the walls is leaning inward. all of the work stopped while officials short up and make structures safe were for firefighters to move deeper inside. that could take up to five more hours and the recovery of more victims will resume. so far 11 families versus been notified their loved ones perished in the fires. including the son of a local sheriff's deputy. 36 families wanting answers. officials determined the fire started in the back of the building, but what caused this fire is under investigation. bill: investigators are looking for the potential for a crime here. what would that be? >> all kinds of laws were broken at this ghost ship, the name this artist enclave that doubled as a nightclub. witnesses and survivors say the
whole thing was laid out like a maze and it wasback packs with furniture, just a narrow ram shackle stairwell. they are going through their records including footage from body cams top to complaints about debris and illegal occupancy. some tenants fade hundreds of dollars to live in rvs parked on the first floor. the man who ran it has a criminal record. neighbors say he laughed off warnings that the place was a death trap. police are interviewing him and look at witnesses and look at the records per tairning to this warehouse. their focus is recovering the victims of this tragedy.
martha: what's being called a populist revolt rocking europe. italy's prime minister says he will resign. voters rejected his proposed constitutional reforms. amy kellogg is live with us in milan. reporter: i thought would appreciate this headline from the communist daily. it says ciao bella. the thing is people are trying to lump this dumping of an incumbent with that global populist wave of protest. but here the people who voted no were voting for the status quo. renzi wanted to shape things up.
the vote was really one against him personally. part of his unpopularity was the fact that he was never actually elected. in an internal party deal he took over the leadership of his center of left party. he was trying to streamline the bureaucracy and shake it up and it didn't work. >> this reform is one we submitted to the vote. we were not successful. but if democracy wins, my experience of government ends here. reporter: markets in the our over were down right after the results of the referendum. they have since rallied. but in terms of markets they did show through the polls it would not win.
some have pointed out the new caretaker government that will fill the void will be the 64th government in italy since world war ii. in that respect there is nothing inherently destabilizing about a change of government. martha: that's what renzi was so upset about. we are going to dig into this a little bit more. good to see you. bill: new controversy at a va hospital. four hospital staffers are resigning before the investigation has been completed. martha: mr. trump cast tag wider net in the search for secretary of state. which is quite fascinating to watch. we'll talk about who is now putting into the mix. bill: mr. trump accepting a call from the president of taiwan and
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mccrory aloud ask for a statewide recount. he says he won't challenge results if the results show his opponent won a heavily democratic county. >> i'm confident our president-elect will continue to assemble a cabinet of people who will be the best for that position. it will be a team of people that will make america prosperous again. some names that are said to be on the list for the state job, jon huntsman, former utah governor. he's also the former u.s. ambassador to china. rex tillison.
and dana rohrbacher, chairman of the house subcommittee on emerging threats. former white house chief of staff to george h.w. bush and author of the "quiet man," john sununu. >> secretary of state is a tough job and president-elect trump needs the best he can get for the job. it's good's looking beyond his list. but i think some of the best folks are on his current list. and maybe he wants to make sure he dotted every i and crossed every t. romney would make an excellent secretary of state. the job needs someone who understands the world in broad terms and understands each country you are dealing with not
only has their relationship with the united states to worry about, but they have to be able to deal with their own neighbors. martha: let's put up the original list, i guess we are calling it which includes mitt romney and rudy giuliani. bob corker is also on that list. why do you think this process has been so public. the meetings and dinners and additions to the list. what do you think he's doing here? >> i think he wants people to know for this particularly important role, he is really going all-out and going the extra mile in looking at a broad list and in-depth at each individual. he wants to make sure people understand this is not an off-the-cuff decision for this particular job.
he wants to make sure this one in particular is seen as having been looked at in depths. >> you think mitt romney is the choice you would prefer. why not rudy giuliani. >> rudy is a good guy. corker can do the job. john bolton's experience is a good qualifier. there is a good list there. unless he gets some exceptional addition to this we don't know of, i think he would be pretty good from picking from that list. martha: you have got defense, then you have the head of the nfc in general flynn. it's important they work well together and have different talents and different takes on the world. would you agree with that?
>> i agree chemistry in the white house and the cabinet is important. i happen to have been part of a white house where the president certainly understood it but brent scocroft had the chemistry with jimmy baker at the department of defense. i'm sure he's talking to those two people as examines candidates for secretary of state. it's not an easy process. i'm happy he's taking his time rather than rushing into it. >> a lot of people like general petraeus. do you agree with that? would you be comfortable with three generals in that t >> i would not. and i was shocked at general
petraeus telling us he didn't vote in this election. martha: do you think it's disqualifying? >> it's disturbing. if you want to be involved in the process, you have to be involved. martha: in the end you believe you have to pick somebody. thank you. always good to talk to you, sir. bill: four staffers at a v.a. hospital calling it quits after an operation. the popular vacation destination that's beginning to look like a winter wonderland. check that out. [♪]
billa veteran being treated at a v.a. facility died after ma mags were found in his wound. pete hegseth, good morning to you. we keep coming back to these stories. is it exclusive to the va or is this the suggestion you have medical issues at hospitals that do not get the attention some of the veterans issues get. what do you believe in a building that's 100 years old in oklahoma that you find a situation like this. >> it am not exclusive just to the v.a.
but for patient in other hospitals they have a choice. but if veterans who live near this hospital, and that's where they are told, indianapolis where they go. the son of the veteran who plead for 21 days to change the bandages says he met with stonewalling. so there were maggots discovered in that wound. it churns my stomach. a single-payer healthcare-run system. in a perverse way, there is such light shown on the va and the problems there. these guys who fight it say we quit.
knowing they will come after us. it may or may not face criminal charges. it's not charges but at least they left. but real progress is firing people in real-time for whether the administrative blockages or poor care inside the facility. until they have that choice, they are not treated like customers. and veterans are world class service. you have a guy 73 years old, the son can't get him care and he's got maggots in his wound. why won't he go to congress and fight for the bills that will give him that authority. he's in the tank with government unions and special tint groups who don't want to change those civil service laws. in addition to an investigation top to bottom. the president-elect talked about
that. he has to start by ripping the scab off the wound. how far does it go so we can overhaul the culture. >> comment from the family here. this is randy parker. during the last 21 days i was there i pled with medical staff to increase hi his meds so his bandages could be changed. >> the culture will change when people are fired and held accountable. donald trump made this a priority from day one of his campaign. he has a 10 point plan to do it which protects whistle blowers. all the things bob mcdonald and the unions have not done.
there are a lot of greet people who work for the va. they are the ones that suffer from the impression they are not doing a good job when the bad ones aren't able to be removed. it's investigation, protecting whistle blowers. a suicide crisis facing them. you can do it. you roll up your sleeves and go to bat. bill: are you going to get that job? >> i don't know. i'm grateful to be considered and honored to serve, but i can't put my finger on that scale. there is only one guy who will make that decision. martha: a months-long standoff over the oil pipeline ends with a victory for the protesters. the latest on what brought the construction to a halt. bill: president-elect trump is taking calls from many world
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martha: the army corps of engineers decided not to move ahead on the dakota access pipeline. the tribe and its supporters have been protesting this project for months. this is a victory for the protesters. you have the local sioux tribe, and you see flags from hundreds of tribes who are here who see
this as a native american rights issue, and the environmental activists. social media has driven it for the last 9 months. they raised money from liberal foundations, casino and the internet. the vets arrived here to act as a human shield for a pla confrontation. but the army corps of engineers refused to issue an easement for under the missouri river. >> it's crucial because of our land being destroyed. if we don't do anything fit now, we'll have nothing left. reporter: the tribal chairman called the president's decision courageous. critics call it interference. the chairman's sister jody
willis is the president's former chief of staff for native american affairs. there is a picture from 2014. so you have got the camp here. where you see the trees, that's where the river is. up on the ridge line, that's where the pipeline is. let me give an aerial view. the pipeline is on the north side, the sioux reservation on the south side. they claim it's land stolen in 1853. >> when this all said and done everybody keeps going. we get to deal with all the local people that looked forward to the pipeline. that's what worries us. reporter: so president-elect trump takes office in 47 days. he supports this pipeline.
he can reinstate the original permit and through executive action approve the pipeline, so we could be here several more months. martha: the. it line would not be on their land, is that correct? reporter: the pipeline is not on indian tribal land. tribal land is south of me. the pipeline is half a mile north of us. it's owned by the pipeline company. the 1,200 mile long pipeline concerns with the missouri river and is owned by the pipeline company. bill: taiwan's president is the leader of a duly elected government. but china krts taiwan a
breakaway province. vice president-elect mike pence says if the firestorm is overblown and points to a double standard. >> it's striking to me president obama would reach out to a murdering dictator in du cuba ad is hailed as a hero, and donald trump takes a courtesy call from the president of taiwan and it becomes a thing in the media. bill: december 2 the president of the taiwan called to wish me congratulations. another. interesting how the u.s. sells taiwan billions in in the equipment by should not accept a congratulatory call. reaction has been what? >> the reaction has been knock the media that president-elect trump would do something like this.
because i think it needs the fire tough of donald trump as a foreign policy neophyte who didn't know about the situation. this morning's "washington post" makes clear with some reporting that this call had been in the works for weeks and trump's advisers were pro-taiwan and wanted to send a signal to china. bill report "wall street journal," "americans have to get used to donald trump breaking paul the rules of the presidential campaign. it looks like the world will have top get used to a president who breaks diplomatic convention." the impression you get from many analysts is trump doesn't know what he's doing. advice he's getting is bad advisor he's not getting briefed.
>> you can argue whether it was worth the provocation to china. but as in that second tweet you read. president-elect trump exposed the polite fiction, it sells tbhils arms but has to pretend that there is no such relationship in order to not -- in order to mollify the chinese government. trump is a disrupter and he will break a lot of rules along the way. bill: last night paul ryan said on "60 minutes," unconventional. another paragraph, president obama had no success? convincing china to rein in pyongyang. last word, howie.
reporter: the counter argument is the u.s. needs china for a lot of geopolitical reasons, including dealing with north korea, and was it worth it that they openly invited taiwan to call. this new president is going to do things in different ways thoonter presidents. we saw that again and again during election. bill: hugo chavez, something we kind of forget in short-term memory world. martha: before president trump's call, china flew bombers around taiwan for the first time.
jennifer give why live at the pentagon with more on this story for us. good morning to you, jennifer. >> the incident occurred november 26 long before president-elect trump took the phone call. november 26 china sent a pair of h-6 nuclear capable bombers to circle taiwan for the first time. a test for allies in the pacific. japan scrambled 8 fighter jets to intercept the bombers. this was the first time china ever attempted to fly around taiwan with bombers, but not all military experts were surprised. >> china has steadily built up a malls i i'm military capability in the area around taiwan.
technically we can't object to flying bomb officers near taiwan if we are flying combat aircraft and reconnaissance aircraft near china. reporter: russia recently deployed missiles to western crimea after ukraine conducted missile tests and. during a visit last week to the u.s. st. george w. bush fox news spoke to the captain of the aircraft carrier about the looming threats the crew will face as they deploy to the middle east. >> it's vital that we understand that russia's capability has been reseason vague rated. they have certain interests that are divergent from ours. we need to understand their capability so we understand what they intend to do so if required we can counter that.
reporter: the u.s. state department approved the sale of $200 million worth of air togroundair-to-ground missiles e polish military. bill: will the same forces that helped donald trump win the white house spreading across europe? martha: a bit frosty in paradise. one of the last places you would ever associate with snow now has a foot it in spots. what the heck is going on there. [♪]
the weekend is being called a major vote for populism. voters rejected constitutional reforms backed by major companies and the european union. the prime minister renzi stepped down as he said he would if the vote was turned down. louise, let me start with you. when you heard renzi speak, he did an interview and "60 minutes" a couple weeks ago. he wanted to shrink the size of government and get more done. he felt was very inefficient. people say that sounds like somebody show wants to do something conservative. >> what he really wanted to do is give himself more power.
you need to be wary when the establishment wants to take that much more power to themselves. the people in rejecting this were able to give a kick to the establishment without being totally anti-e.u. on the flip side at the same time, the far right party in austria got a kicking. and they had effectively a recount for the presidential election there, and the left-wingers, the liberals managed to win that one. i think you are seeing an affection for the nicer side of mr. trump, that side of anti-establishment populism that he has, and rejecting the hangers on that want to sully his presidency and the e.u. movement. >> there are very big issues at
stake in europe and they were at stake in our election as well. let's put up a picture of the big five leaders. you have president obama who will be leaving in january. prime minister david cameron is gone, now renzi gone as well. and the prime minister of austria barely hanging on. >> the northern league has been a prominent partner in the government sometimes and sometimes not. the head of the northern leagues tweeted out viva trump, putin. when i see things like that take place and i see vladimir putin extolled by major parties in italy and by marie lepenn. that troubles me greatly.
that's not europeans becoming nationalists. that's a major realignment with a man i consider to be a despot. but liberal western values. so that to me send a troubling signal, something i recall from my history books from 100 years ago, a march toward something more dark than we anticipated. >> i want to draw a key distinction between between president-elect trump and vladimir putin. lapenn is not going to win the french election, and the more constitutional conservative, a french margaret thatcher, he's the favor to win in france.
in brexit we haven't seen the right triumph. theresa may, the strong woman prime minister, she is a good friend to america. right now the british are conducting war games against a fictional russian invasion. so i don't think europe is lying down for vladimir putin. we know our friends lie to the west and not to the east. thank you very much. great to see you both. bill: winter weather is soon upon us. but it's not supposed to snow here. pay attention to the forecast. this forecast coming up next. hello, i'm an idaho potato farmer
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martha: at 10:30 the trump team hold a conference call. out of that there has been news donald trump says he will support the pipeline which has just been derailed at least for the time being. he says he will review it when he's in office. we just had a live report from the fascinating protest going on out there. we learn that the pipeline is not on the indian reservation property in that area, but a couple miles south of it. the pipeline is north of it. we'll keep a close eye on that. bill: we have an extreme weather alert. snow in hawaii and lots of it. fresh powder falling on the big island's highest mountain peaks. what's going on, janice dean?
is this normal? reporter: you need snow pants under those grass skirts it does snow in the highest of peaks on the big island. they have seen snowflakes up there in june. but to see three feet of snow in aein -- in a matter of days, that's rare. it's because we have had several consecutive system move into the big island and the island chain. you don't see the snow. the snow is gone. the winter storm warning has been lifted. but that's all the moisture we are getting from the pacific. you go to the highest of peaks, 10,000 feet up, you can typically see snow. but this amount of snow, 3 feet of snow is a rarity. the forecast radar shows rain in the forecast. but things will subside. look at some of the forecast rainfall we have seen or will
see, easily 3 to 6 inches of heavy rain. we have got the moisture. when it gets cold up there you see the snow. the rarity is to see 3 feet of the snow lasting this long. that's why we are seeing those pretty pictures -- what do they do? [♪] bill: do you that well. martha: i want to see janice in a grass skirt with snow pants. all right, so president-elect trump naming ben carson as house and urban development secretary. -- as housing and urban development secretary. some new contenders thrown into the mix for secretary of state. see me. don't stare at me. see me. see me. see me to know that psoriasis is just something that i have. i'm not contagious. see me to know that... ...i won't stop
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alabama-clemson. they did not make it. however, based on the way alabama looked over the weekend, it don't matter. [laughter] bill: have a great monday. >> martha: see you later, happening now. jenna: president elect makes his pick for another cabinet post while list of contenders gets long. i'm jenna lee. jon: are you on the list to be secretary of state? jenna: not oh so far. jon: maybe some day. jenna: never. jon: there are now a few more names on that short list to be secretary of state, some of the high pro-file names joining the original final four