girl or woman on your list. buy it now so you have it in time for christmas. get out there and do it. running out of time. good to have you tonight. is "the kelly file." welcome to "hannity." members of the electoral college formally cast their votes to make donald trump the next president of the united states. earlier today the electoral college put donald trump over the 270 threshold needed to become the next commander in chief, despite all of this, democrats are continuing to try to undermine the president-elect and are still refusing to accept the election results. according to politico, in an interview with his hometown newspaper, former president bill clinton took several shots at president-elect trump saying, quote one one thing he does know is how to get angry white men to vote for him.
clinton blamed the fbi for his wife's life saying quote james comey cost her the election. but that's not all. john podesta is making headlines for refusing to say that the election was free and fair. watch this. >> do you believe theis was a free and fair election? >> i believe the russians clearly intervened in the election and i think now we know that most of cia, the director of national intelligence, the fbi all agree that the russians intervened to help trump. >> you didn't answer the question. do you believe this was a free and fair election? >> well i think it was distorted by the russian intervention. let's put it that way. >> can you imagine if the tables were turned and donald trump's campaign said the same thing? when you have donna brazile who wikileaks exposed as having given debate and town hall questions to the clinton campaign. she's talking to democrat
rushing hacking talking points to a new low level. watch this. >> this was a very intrusive process. the president's party was hacked. not the democrats. his party was hacked. the e-mails were weaponized. the release of stolen hacked e-mails caused a lot of confusion and of course it disrupted our daily campaign lives. donald trump used this information in ways to also sew division. i was very disappointed in his repeated usage of some of the stolen information. he used it as if he received daily talking points. >> as for president obama, he's still making excuses but appears to be finally admitting that the main reason president-elect trump won is because he outworked hillary clinton on the campaign trail. watch this. >> oftentimes younger voters, minority voters, democratic
voters are clustered in urban areas. >> and on the coasts. >> and on the coasts. so as a consequence, you've got a situation where there are not only entire states but also big chunks of states where if we're not showing up, if we're not in there making an argument, then we're going to lose. and we can lose badly and that's what happened in this election. >> joining us now with reaction is the author of the best selling book "treason" former speaker of the house newt gingrich. want to get to the election results and the electoral college vote in a second. but first, i want to talk to you about what's going on in europe. first we saw earlier today we saw the russian ambassador in turkey being assassinated on television, actually videotaped and then later on we thaer that the white house is calling the berlin germany truck that plowed into the christmas market a quote terror attack.
your thoughts. tell us what you see going on. >> well, clearly the man, as i understand it, the man who killed the russian am bes door was an islamic supremacist. that has took an act of terrori terrorism. almost certainly the truck in germany was an act of terrorism. it's interesting to see if it was a person who is a refugee. it will put angela merkel's government in deeper trouble. so this is just part of the dangers of the world we now live in. you may have noticed that tourists were attacked in jordan, something that's very unusual. but yesterday a group of tourists were at a castle in jordan and 12 of them were killed. very unusual happening. we're up against a worldwide
effort and we have no current strategy capable of dealing with that problem. >> mr. speaker, talk to us about the relevance of the russian ambassador being shot. we know what's going on. this at least temporary truce or peace agreement that's supposed to be going on in syria. will it hold? what is the risk to the russian side of this? >> look. well, i mean one of the things that western liberals have refused to recognize is if the russians and the iranians are prepared to back assad, the dictatorship is going to survive. there's not enough force on the ore side. and so what you're seeing happening is slowly they're grinding down the opposition. the opposition is not particularly nice people. we're learning in aleppo, for example, that a lot of people were terrorized. they wore told if they tried to leave they would be killed. this is by the so-called moderates. i think the turks are very upset and they don't quite know what
to do. they have isis and al qaeda directly south of them and the kurds to their east. and they're under tremendous internal pressure now. >> but the syria policy is in shambles right now. you have the russians hardening now, i assume they're going to harden, we're on the other side of this, saying we need assad and let's go. russians are saying assad must stay. what does president-elect donald trump do? what is he stepping into? >> i think this is why general flynn is going to matter as head of national security council and i think that's why general mattis is going to matter and secretary of state is going to matter because they're going to have to sit down and really think through a new strategy. now with jim mattis and with general flynn, you have people who were there, general kelly who will be at homeland security, combat. they have a good sense of the region and i suspect they'll be
giving the president-elect very speshlg advice about what to do president part of it has to do from the realization -- unless we're prepared to deeply nfts, which i don't think so we are, we are limited options right now in dealing with syria. >> we'll leave it there. president-elect donald trump has gone over the 270 threshold. he will be the next president of the united states. now we heard the democrats out in force over the weekend whining. anyone but clinton. anyone but clinton's fault that she lost. donna brazile, you heard her. this is someone who leaked questions about debates and town halls to hillary clinton. should she even have a voice going guard forward in the poli debate? >> cnn believed this and they fired her. i like donna personally. i've known her for years. she's a wonderful human being.
but she got caught up in something that was really to her disadvantage. i suspect she will not be there much longer as national committee chair. but the one that i think is far more interesting is the campaign chairman who remember was in charge of $1 billion, $1 billion, had the incumbent president as his ally, as the national nude media as his ally and they lost. he's looking for anybody he can blame in order to get out from under this. and it's almost comical to watch them look. i think the next phase will be it was martians, this was all done by martians and hillary would have won except for the martians. >> john podesta. the reports are that she got angry with both of them. former president bill clinton
said donald trump what he knows how to do is get angry white men to vote for him. your thoughts on that. >> he got a lot of white women to vote for him, a lot of other people to vote for him. i think he ran ahead of romney on latinos and african-americans, ran ahead of romney with asians. he won the election which is a pretty big starting point. but imagine the problem you've got if you're bill clinton. it's christmas week. your wife just lost. she's going to spend the rest of her life being nonpresident clinton. you're president clinton. you'll say almost anything to make her feel good. what's bill going to say, he's not going to get up and say, i don't know why but my wife just failed. he can't do that. think of what christmas would be like. i give him a certain slack. it's christmas week. do what you can but none of the rest of us should take it seriously. >> you're being generous with
that angry white male comment. >> it's christmas. >> but as you point out, donald trump exceeded mitt romney in the hispanic vote, in the african-american vote as well. you can push back on bill clinton a little bit. hillary clinton, what was the turning point, why did she lose this election? >> well, she lost because she didn't have the energy and the drive to go to pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin. in the end donald trump outworked her. you look, he was doing five and six big rallies a day. she's doing one small rally. well that exchange rate in the age of social media, he's getting 20,000, 30,000 people with their smartphones sending stuff out on facebook. he was creating his own network. a typical trump rally had about the same number of commenntacts msnbc. >> going to leigh it there,
thank you very much. coming up, a truck plows into people at a christmas market at berlin. the white house is calling it an apparent terrorist attack. dr. sebastian gorka reacts next. and then later -- >> her current scandals and controversies will continue throughout her presidency and make it virtually impossible for her to govern or lead her country. >> that was president-elect donald trump slamming hillary clinton on the campaign trail. democrats seem to forget just how corrupt clinton is. peter schweitzer will join us. and later -- >> michelle obama said yesterday that there's no hope. but ui assume she was talking about the past, not the future. >> president-elect donald trump is responding to the first lady michelle obama's comments about
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live from america's news headquarters, i'm kelly wright in washington. the number of dead rising in wer lynn, germany. 12 people confirmed killed when a truck slammed into a crowd enjoying an outdoor christmas market. many of those killed, crushed to death. at least 48 were injured and set to hospitals. the germany police are working to confirm their suspicions of a terror attack. the driver of the truck has been arrested. sources telling fox news no americans are believed to be among the victims. in arkansas police offering a $20,000 reward in the hunt for
a killer of a 3-year-old boy. the boy shot and killed during a road rage understand accident on saturday while christmas shopping with his grandmother. the shooter was angry with the grandmother for taking too much time at a stop sign. that's it for fox news. now back to "hannity." this is a fox news alert. the white house is calling the chilling scene at a german christmas market earlier today an apparent act of terror and president-elect donald trump released a statement expressing his condolences for the victims. joining us now is dr. sebastian gorka. thanks for joining us. a couple of attacks today. what's happening? is this because of the season? is this specifically because it's a christian holiday? >> remember, eric, the san bernardino attack also happened around the christmas season and
in fact malik and farook killed 14 of their fellow colleagues at the christmas party in the offices where they were employed. christmas is the ultimate infidel target. and if it does the turn out that this was a jihadi attack, we can expect more threats of this kind. this is the reality of the world we live in. there is no front line like there was in world war i or world war ii. the front line is when you leave yours house in the morning or go to a christmas market in berlin. >> the state department issued warnings to americans overseas saying be ware of these christian markets because they may be targets of terror. >> yes. this is the sad reality. i often get requests from friends and even people on facebook saying i want to go on holiday to paris or to germany. what do you advise? and it's very simple.
the jihadis have made it clear, al qaeda and their magazine inspire, isis in their publication, go to places where there are large amounts of infidels who cannot protect themselves. tourist attractions, christmas markets. we saw this before in nice. this is the reality where there are a lot of people, a lot of civilians who cannot look after themselves that will be a target. >> meaning it's a soft target, aren't a lot of defense, not a lot of barriers or armed guards. is this a whole new world for if us? >> the fact is the dangerous reality is that isis has learned from the mistakes of al qaeda. al qaeda was ironically too successful on september 11th. they killed 3,000 people in 102 minutes. afterwards they were obsessed with weapons of massive
destruction, they wanted to go bigger and bigger. isis understands, this is just about guerrilla warfare. they've said you don't need to build a bomb. you don't need to get a gun. get in a truck and literally they wrote, mow the infidel down like grass and that's what they did in nice and that's what it looked like they berlin. >> almost the same looking kind of truck, two people got into the truck and started mowing down. but dr. gorka, there's no defense of this. what do you do? do you stay away from public squares? >> well, the first thing you do, and this is what i write in my book "defeating ining jihad", e to be tactically aware. every citizen. look at downtown centers of any suburb and people are walking around staring at their iphone or android. then you're a target.
you've got to be aware of your surroundings. the important thing is that jihadis surveil. they don't decide one morning i'm going to attack the christmas market in berlin. they check it out, videotape it, collect intelligence like any operation. and we should be aware. if the neighbors in san bernardino has reported what they saw happening in that house, we potentially could have saved those people. people need to, as the police say, your head should be on a swivel and you should be tactically aware every time you leave the house in the morning. >> president-elect donald trump issued a statement today, our hearts and prayers are with the loved ones of the victims of today's wterror attack in berli. it goes on, almost giving a warning to americans overseas. >> absolutely. i mean, this is the big thick that's going to change on january 20th. there will be a new sheriff in town and the first thing i can predict, if you listen to his
youngstown speech, read the book by his national security adviser, lieutenant general flynn, the first thing that's going to pap after the inauguration, political correctedness is out of the window and we're going to be honest. they're religiously motivated and they want to eradicate christians. they're trying thar darnest. look at the areas that have been expunged of christian culture and they're trying to come back to burnt houses and destroy churches. that's the enemy and we're going to take them seriously come january 21st. >> dr. gorka, the other horrific event that took place today was an assassination of a diplomat in turkey. a 22-year-old shoots and kills the ambassador in turkey. talk to us about the significance of that. >> this is a lethal threats. the reports that we have already -- as you look at the video, it's a shocking video
which i'm sure we're going to have to live with for years going around the internet. this young fit looking man in a dark suit and a tie, allegedly he was a police officer. this is what we call the insider threat. this is somebody who's inside the security services, authorized to use force, he carries a weapon, he gets inside the perimeter, into the so-called zone and in the middle of an art gallery guns down an ambassador. this is one of the most pernicious threats we have to deal with, the people inside the wire as we say. >> immediately after firing those shots he yells out allah who akhbar several times and makes a reference to syria. we'll die in syria, you'll die here. >> this is connected to the ongoing what i like to call global jihadi movement. a young man who's decided to go against the regime itself, the allies if you will, the people
that are working in the theater and send a very clear message. he shouted god is great or allah is greater multiple times. and then the other thing that needs to be noted, he shot other people in the art gallery. he killed the ambassador but other people were wounded as well today. >> all right. thank you very much. it is a very very dangerous world. thank you very much. >> thank you. coming up next on "hannity" -- >> her current scandals and controversy will continue throughout her presidency and will make it virtually impossible for her to govern or lead our country. >> remember when president-elect donald trump was saying that on the campaign trail? democrats are ignoring those facts and about hillary clinton as they complain about her loss. peter schweizer joining us next. and later -- >> michelle obama said yesterday that there's no hope.
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they're also conducting a second criminal investigation into hillary's illegal pay for play corruption at the state department. we could very well have a sitting president under felony indictment and ultimately a criminal trial. her current scandals and controversies will continue throughout her presidency and make it virtually impossible for her to govern or lead our country. now i don't think it's going to matter because she's not going to win. >> joining me now to remind liberals just why liberals lost the election is the author of "clinton cash," mr. peter schweizer. how rich are bill and hillary clinton? >> well, they've made about $250 million since they left the white house. which if you compare that to
other expresidents, that's maybe eight times what any other previous ex-president has made. they're very wealthy. >> that's amazing. most of all that almost blows my mind. eight times more than any other president. is it corruption, is it cronyism? are either, all or both of these illegal? >> yes. i think there was a lot of illegal activity. if you were to give a sub title to this election it's that corruption has consequences. people don't like corruption. if you look at the exit surveys, three out of four americans believe there was wide spread corruption in d.c. so when hillary clinton, whether it's the clinton foundation, whether it's bill's speaking fees, the e-mails scandal, when people hear about that repeatedly, it bothers them. and the democrats don't seem to think it did bother people. but look, far before the hacking took place going back into 2015,
some 70% of the american people did not trust hillary clinton to be honest and trustworthy. and that has major consequences, particularly when independents vote. >> let's talk a little bit about the money coming in and the money going out. start with the money coming in. a lot of pay to play accusations. tell us about whether it's legal or ul legal, some of the activities that may be questionable. >> well if you perform a favor for somebody in exchange for money, whether it's explicit or not, that is a crime. and whether that goes to a chair you control, like the clinton foundation or ends up in your pocket, it's a crime. if you look at something like -- >> a crime punishable by what? >> by going to jail. it's a violation. if you have a federal government employee, whether you're the president of the united states or someone else, to do a favor, an official government favor in exchange for somebody else, the notion of pay to play. now proving that is not always easy but you can prove it
sometimes of course if you have a videotaped confession or if you catch something on audio, the fbi is listening in. you can also be charged, senator menendez -- >> they use the shell companies for the monies to go into the areas and then it comes back to them. is that enough plausible denineability for them? >> absolutely it's plausible deniability. if you look at the recent prosecutions, former governor of virginia, the former governor of alabama who's in jail right now, senator menendez, in none of those cases was there a videotape or an audio tape. it was based on money flowed and favors were given in turn. the notion that the clintons didn't do anything illegal is incorrect. that's why you have five field offices of the fbi investigating the clinton foundation and they've been doing it since last year. >> that's the money coming in
still questionable and i guess these fbi offices will continue to investigation. the money going out, are they abusing the way they're spending the money of the clinton foundation? >> absolutely. you don't have to go any further than the internal eval wiuation that was done for them by the law firm that chelsea requested. in that review they asked clinton foundation employees to rate the effectiveness of the charity and the way it spent money on a scale of one to ten. clinton foundation employees gave it a 4 for effectiveness. some employees gave it a 1. the review also said they found evidence of quid pro quo donations. it's a settled case that the clinton foundation was ineffective and there was internal -- >> someone has to pay for the travel, someone has to pay for the restaurant. someone has to pay for the security.
should the clinton foundation be paying for their whole family structure to be living this lifestyle? >> no. what they do is sort of double bill. bill clinton takes a trip to india. it may be business related. he may be giving a speech. but because she had a conversation with somebody there about the clinton foundation, the clinton foundation tipicks the tab. no, it's not appropriate. and the irs needs to look at that. they spent $50 million in travel over the course of five years, much of it paying for the luxurious travel of bill and hillary clinton. >> thank you very much. coming up next right here on "hannity" -- >> michelle obama said yesterday that there's no hope. i assume she was talking about the past, not the future. >> president-elect donald trump react tots first lady michelle obama saying his election win is
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of shoppers at a christmas market. many of the victims were crushed to death. the driver of the truck has been arrested and aalleged accomplice died at the scene. the northwest ambassador to the u.n. is urging member nation to put monitor on the crowd in eastern aleppo where a mass exodus is under way. the need for urgency is prompted by reports that many of the people waiting tore evacuated are dying of exposure in bitter cold weather. back now to "hannity." welcome back to "hannity." first lady michelle obama recently sat down with an interview with oprah winfrey saying that americans have lost hope. watch this. >> your husband's administration, everything, the election, was all about hope. do you think that this administration achieved that? >> yes.
i do. because we feel the difference now. see, now we're feeling what not having hope feels like, you know. >> oh now, now. anyway during his final stop on his thank you tour this weekend, president-elect donald trump responded this way. >> michelle obama said yesterday that there's no hope but i assume she was talking about the past, not the future. i actually think she made that statement not meaning it the way it came out. i really do. because i met with president obama and michelle obama in the white house, my wife was there, she could not have been nicer. i honestly believe she meant that statement in a different way than it came out. >> joining us now with reaction is fox news contributor charlie hurt and the host of justice, judge jeanine pirro. judge, you're fired up on this one. this one is getting to you.
>> go ahead. >> now there's no hope. all of the sudden barack is leaving the office and hope is gone. >> hope rises and falls with michelle obama. i thought when they hit low, the obamas go high. when you've got people who are saying when we leave office you guys don't have any hope, that is an outrage. and the lack of hope is why donald trump won this election. the lack of hope is why outsider won an election, why 30,000 people on a cold night got together with their kids, wait in line to see donald trump. hope is why people at carrier get their jobs back because on outsider, not the obamas, not the democratic party make a decision that they're going to elect someone who is going to do something for them. >> do you know small businesses are suddenly showing signs of hope.
consumer confidence is going up. there's hope. there's hope in the economy. hope in the average american now. >> hope in all of the places outside of the white house gates obviously. i think what happens when you spend eight years campaigning on some sort of empty promise slogan of hope. it loses all meaning. what i find really sad about this at the juncture in history, you had the obamas, they had a story that they told people and it really was a very hopeful story and people believed in them and they had this extraordinary moment, this extraordinary opportunity, had eight years to do it, two years of democrats in control of the congress and they completely failed by any measure. and for them to sit back with this rear guard action well now, everything is hopeless. it's a sad day. >> judge, didn't the first lady at one point say i'm finally proud took an american. >> yes. >> what is she insinuating with that?
>> when her husband was about to be nominated a candidate for president. she was 44 years of age. for a woman who was a lawyer, someone educated in this country to say for the first time i'm proud to be an american and then when they leave the white house, hope is gone for all of you because we're leaving. you know when hope was gone? hope was gone for men on a roof top in benghazi. hope was gone for those people at carrier when obama said to them, there's no way you're getting your jobs back. if people lock at what happen during the obama's reign, racial divide, hatred of law enforcement and the military. all of that was destroyed. shame on them trying to convince america who now is so strong behind trump that they are the reason -- their going is the reason we're going to lose and we're a file your. >> what's the end game? what's the play here, to say literally with 32 days left before they leigh the white house. hope is leaving us again.
what is this all about? >> the obamas are going through what all democrats are going through right now, the 12 stages of grief or denial or whatever where they're having to realize that the obama presidency was a complete failure for democrats. this wasn't just a one-night loss. this was eight years of losses for the democratic party. the only democrat to win the election was obama himself. he was able to say i've been a succe success. my trez den has been a victory. no, it wasn't. she skrodestroyed his party in process. think they're trying to cast blame, get out of everybody blaming them. >> i think charlie is right. i believe it's five stages of grief. one of them is sadness, then there's also denial and anger. what stanl age are they in?
>> i remember barack obama saying he's going to take it as a personal insult if they don't elect hillary clinton. they've been mad for a long time. but when you think about it, to say that hope is gone to the american people is really a low blow. >> it's the worst thing you can say. >> it's the worst thing you can say. >> i don't know. could be the worst thing you could say. you're deplorabldeplorable. irredeemable. >> hope leaving the majority. and make so mistake, donald trump ran to win the electoral college and that's what he did. he didn't run to win the popular vote. that would have been a different race. and he ran to win and now he won. now they're saying all of you losers, you deserve to have no hope. >> you know how many stages of grief there are? it's how many excuses they come with up whether it's the russians. >> alt-right. >> at the end of the day, when you count up those, that's how
many. >> leave it there. thank you guys very much. check out judge jeanine's facebook page and check out the opening statement about michelle obama's comments. and coming up next right here on "hannity." >> we will build a great wall and we will stop illegal immigration for good. >> president-elect donald trump is promising to build a wall as a new report from the border patrol reveals over 40,000 illegal immigrants were apprehended just last month alone trying to enter the country. chris covac joins us next, that and more as "hannity" continues. ♪ when it comes to heartburn... trust the brand doctors trust. nexium 24hr is the #1 choice
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and the criminalrorizing all of citizens and the message is that your days are numbered. we're getting you out. we will build a great wall and we will stop illegal immigration for good and we will have doors in that wall. and people will come into that wall and they'll come through that wall by the tens of thousands. but they're coming in legally. >> that was president-elect donald trump over the weekend at his final thank you tour promising to build a border wall and to stop illegal immigration. the president-elect's promises are needed now more than ever because according to a new report from u.s. customs and border protection, illegal immigration along the southwest border continues to increase. in november a total of 47,214 individuals were apprehended on the southwest border. that was november alone, which was higher than previous months. joining me now is kansas
secretary of state, mr. chris covac. look at these numbers. 47,214 in november, 46,000 in october, 39,000 in september. 39, 46, 47, 200. what's going on at the border? >> you know, this is a really interesting phenomenon and it's something new. we've never had a president-elect coming into office promising to increase enforcement levels and to build a wall. it's interesting what happens is the anyell smuggling networks and illegal aliens will often react to what's happening and it appears many are saying i'm going to try to get in now before the wall is built and get in and get embedded in a community now before they start ramping up enforcement under a trump administration. it shows they're taking seriously president trump's promise to restore the rule of law. he's going to do that. >> some of the things that
strike me with an open border as we have, and swiss cheese border, terrorism is a concern. and drug trafficking is a concern. human trafficking is a concern. can we stop most of these? all of these? any of these? >> you know, we can reduce them and in cases and parts of the border, we can bring them to a halt. i say that because in the san ysidro sector there is a 30 mile section there that has a double wall. it is down to virtually 0 crossings there. so yes. in places we can stop it completely. one thing you mentioned is that when you have alien smuggling usually the coyotes will have vehicles that the illegal aliens are in stuffed with drugs as well and they'll force aliens to carry the drugs in backpacks over the border. if we stop alien smuggling we're
going to stop drug smuggling and that is good for america. >> what are the plans for homeland security? what does he want to do? >> i think he's shown that very keen interest in the terrorism that exists south of our border and in parts of central and south america. that awareness of a very real threat is going to be important. having spoken with him and the president-elect i think you're going to see a better focus on securing those terrorists who are using our southern border and we've been aware of this more than 15 years. in many cases it's so easy for them to do that right now. >> have we been lucky we've caught these people that come across the border?
adds you point out? isis said use the u.s. southern border to be getting in. are we lucky it hasn't been worse? >> i guess so. you can say that. there have been a number of terrorists we have caught. for every individual we catch there is probably 3 or 4 we don't catch. so another area is the refugee program. since early 90s there have been 18 major terrorists who have fraudently used our refugee program to get into this country including very big names and master minds of the 1993 attack on the world trade center. bear in mind, i don't want to say we're that lucky.
>> in 2016, talking this year, 408,870 individuals along the southwest border have been apprehended, up from 331,000 in year 15. are people trying to get in? get across the border before president-elect donald trump is sworn into office? >> it's going to be harder to get across the border once the wall is built so i think there is undoubtedly an up tick from that. it's interesting. when you look at the flow of people whenever president obama or some people in the senate would make a promise, tha would cause a surge. aliens would be trying to claim the amnesty. there is a quick response when
we indicate there will be a change coming soon. >> there will be a wall, not a fence, but a wall. >> there will be a physical barrier that will depend on the terrain. so there will be a barrier, no question bit. >> thank you very much. good stuff. coming up, tonight's question of the day, next, don't go anywhere. stick around. with directv and at&t, stream live tv anywhere data-free. join directv today starting at $35/month. no extra monthly fees. ♪ so why are you still puttingy. up with
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