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thank you. come on everybody. aleve. live whole. not part. >> our time line is we're going to try to get this done by august. it's aggressive but we're focused on an aggressive timeline. >> neil: that is aggressive. if you're looking at getting the tax cuts done and get them done by the end of the summer, some might express disappointment in that. obviously that telegraphs that the administration is serious about comprehensive tax reform. now the devil is in the details and keeping to that timetable. welcome. i'm neil cavuto. you're watching "your world." a busy watching the world today where the trump administration is making it clear that a generational change in taxes in this country and how we go about taxing and spending in this country is about to go through a
revolution telegraphed by the treasury secretary of the united states. now, fox business network's blake burman on the timetable they're using. blake? >> the timetable coming into focus and into question on this day, you just heard the treasury secretary steve mnuchin, he spoke with maria bartiromo about the timing of this. the treasury secretary saying the policies might not have a meaningful impact in 2017. so maria asked the treasury secretary as relates to tax reform, might that be something that comes in 2018? take a listen to what he told maria. >> i think we're looking at that. it's preliminary for me to comment. at what point it takes effect. in either scenario, you're not going to see the growth until next year. >> so because he said they're looking at that, neil, i asked
sean spicer, would the president be okay with a package with a time line in which the tax cuts would be enacted and people would feel it in 2018 and not 2017. a bit of ambiguity. here's spicer. >> there's two issues. fiscal year 17 and calendar year 17. for tax purposes, it's calendar year 2017 that they're probably most concerned with. the president as we work with congress will have those details to be able to flush out. >> something that they have to work can congress on. president trump dropped news on this whole conversation just moments ago telling reuters in an interview, speaking about the border adjustment tax, which is a big question in this. the president said, and i'm quoting from reuters here, "it could lead to a lot more jobs in the united states." as that article dropped, spicer talked up the merits of it
saying it benefits workers, americans and the economy. nothing from the white house yesterday, but certainly it appears they're starting to talk it up just a bit. neil? >> neil: very interesting. so that is not dead in their eyes yet. thanks very much. blake burman. by the way, donald trump will be addressing the nation next week and probably spelling this out tuesday. the next morning, we're going to regroup with the treasury secretary again, steve mnuchin and get his views on what the timetable will be. the wind at our back and they hope behind their back will be the fact that the president will have just spelled out to the nation that timetable. i stress that timetable. look what happened to the markets. they were up to record territory again. the tenth straight day running. even delayed, they're not denying. they're not red or blue. they're about green. the more money they make, the happier they are. they seem to like the idea they're on the table and still likely a 2017 event.
what isn't known and this really didn't come up with exact details at the white house pow-wow, with all the fortune 500 manufacturing ceos, about a dozen of them, was whether that roll-out will be retro active. in other words, the tax cut will be retroactive to the beginning of the year. a lot of those manufacturers were encouraged though even in good kidding fun by what they were hearing out of the president. take a look. >> did you bring any more of those jobs back? there's nothing like what you do, the caterpillars are the best. when we raise the dollar and we let other people manipulate their currencies, it's the one thing that stops you, doug, right? >> we'll take them on. bring them on. >> we're trying to talk president trump to doing "the apprentice." that was my assignment at nbc. president trump goes up to a par 3 on his course. he said i'm the richer golfer in
the world. that's a then gets a hole in one. i have to say, you know, i've seen -- i've seen the magic before. >> thanks for the opportunities and bringing the language business back to the white house. i'm here to make chemistry great again. >> thanks for your help. you've been great. >> the last fellow saying he wanted to make chemistry sexy again. the man that runs dow chemical. the prospect of seeing a president trump, he was calling it unlikely and not happy with the tone of the election. that was then and this is now about some encouraging developments going on in this country with this president. take a look. >> the opportunity in this economy to grow more than the 2% rate is there. what i've noticed about this president is that's what he
wants to do. he's reaganesque with the commentary about growth. we'll forgive a lot of other things so the policies we work on at dow, regulation, tax, trade, infrastructure, education, energy and of course work force for the future, that is the agenda. i tell you, this president, whatever anyone ever thought of him before, he wants that conversation. >> neil: the president is planning big tax cuts. they might be pushed back a little bit. it's always in the eyes of the beholders. the markets don't care as long as they happen. i subscribe you want that same view. we talked about the corporate rate at 20%. the president wants 15%. you can live with 20%. >> look, we would love 20%. we'd love 15% even more. we're an energy value adder.
the natural gas prices here help us a lot. we could do more in the downstream if there were a lower corporate tax rate. we're very, very keen on seeing that corporate tax rate come down from the high heights today. >> neil: finally on regulations, this president has been keen on that. you've been keen on that. we talk about the import tax thing, that might not happen now. how do you think that will fall out here? retailers were and still are against it. it was going to pay for a lot of the stuff the administration has wanted to do. any thoughts on that? >> yeah, look, we're pro border adjustment tax. every country in the world has a v.a.t. of some sort that plays like a border adjustment tax. it's totally not fair that we pay something going into one country as an importer and they don't pay anything coming in here. so some people like that, is in the offering from the president
and the cabinet. whether it's the way the house plan is or not, we don't know. we're pro the house plan and we are certainly going to keep lobbying for it. we do believe net-net it will make us more competitive. >> neil: a remarkable turn around what's going on here. this is a man that said of the president in our election cycle a year ago, march 2016, that the presidential cycle -- quoting here -- "is bringing us the kardshian presidency." now smitten by the president and what he's doing. this president has met with these type of ceo forms 11 times in the 30-odd days he's been president of the united states. 11 times. that compared to 18 for the entire eight years of barack obama's presidency. so obviously the president is comfortable in these venues. some of these ceos comfortable in these venues. no matter who they supported,
like i said, doesn't matter red or blue, they're green about making money and their companies making money and shareholders making money and themselves making some money. that is what is going through the markets. former ronald reagan economic advisor art laffer is loving it. it's a remarkable turn around for ceos that were in the dow ceo's case anxious. not so much now. what to you think of that? >> they're not so much now. it's amazing, isn't it? i love your example, it's not red, it's not blue. it's green. >> money, money. that's it. >> economics is about incentives and -- >> neil: you said that about bill clinton. why you liked him. he's got that. >> he sure did. >> neil: you get that. >> absolutely correct. bill clinton did a great job as president of the united states and we saw a huge rise in the stock market and the economy and employment. trump is going along that way as well. the one thing that bothers me,
neil, the pay-for concept. it should not be done on a static basis. fay for, what you have happen, you'll pay for three years out when the economy grows like mad. when we did our tax cuts in 81, we didn't have a pay for. we cut tax rates and let it go. when the economy boomed, that's when we got our pay for and the residents came in and all that. that's what he should be doing and not worry about a border tax adjustment. cut the personal rates and get it going. >> a lot of people look back at the great days and they say the problem with even republicans at the time with all that money that was coming in to washington is they spent it and then some. should there be provisos in there where they can't do that? either party. >> i don't know what you mean by exactly all that money coming in. the border tax -- >> i'm sorry. the revenues you get from tax cuts. you're right. it takes awhile for the money to come in but it does come in.
>> it comes in in huge amounts. we had an enormous time. if you look at the value of wealth, the wealth in america during the regan era, enormous prosperity. that's what you want. they don't have to spend it all but it's fun spending money when you get richer, isn't it? >> neil: a lot of people look at the reagan years and saying this is an opportunity you don't want to miss to address our debt and to get the growth going so we can start chipping away at it. part of the establishment that always a bad word these days, but the sentiment being that they have to be revenue neutral. you said that's -- >> it's not revenue neutral. >> neil: explain that. >> they're looking at these phony types of tax increases that will hurt the economy and cause revenues to fall. you want to do the tax cuts. they will be revenue positive because frankly, if you cut that corporate rate from 35 to 15% as the president has promised,
believe me when i tell you, you'll get more revenue -- >> neil: what if it's 15%? we're hearing the market is priced for perfection. they are expecting a 15% corporate rate and expecting the top rate to go to 33 from over 40% of you including obamacare sur taxes. if it's less than that, they might have a hissy fit. what do you think? >> i don't think so. i want to see it go to 15. >> neil: all right. he obviously was not paying his taxes. out he goes. i apologize for that. the bottom line here, here's what we know very quickly, folks. they are agreeing in principle on a into sweeping tax cut for corporations that would bring the corporate tax rate to 20%. we're hearing the administration would like it to 15%. the markets seemingly are happy with 15 to 20%. it's lower than we have now.
all key tax rates would be condensed to three. they think that will ignite the economic boom, the likes of which we have never seen since ronald reagan. the last meaningful tax reform we had, 1986. i wasn't born. okay. i was alive and well. quite the adult. that was then. we're keeping tracks of things south of the border. we had our secretary of state there. the department of homeland security secretary there. they're chewing the fat with their counter parts in mexico trying to make nice over an issue that has really bothered the mexicans. not the wall, the president's plan to vet immigrants and to chase them down after this.
secretary of state and secretary of homeland security in mexico trying to make nice with the mexicans. not so much as nice but to try to make the mexicans understand where we're coming from with the better vetting process and including hiring ice agents to go after criminals here. the mexicans don't like that. think think this is something they should take up with the united nations. whether anything happens today to ease that anxiety, i don't know. what do you think happened today? did we ease any fears down there? what do you think? >> it was the first meeting, neil. this was going to be a rocky start. i don't think there will be anyway after the campaign rhetoric, the president was tough on mexico. so i expect it to be tough. saying that out of the white house, the president's comments today, saying that, i think that this could be a real area where tillerson and general kelly could be a break-out start. looks like the white house is
running the middle east and china policy really out of the white house. doesn't appear that tillerson has been in those meetings. there's a lot of opportunity for him as relates to mexico and central south latin america, for him to make a great deal for the administration. before tillerson was named secretary of state, he was lauded for the deal that he made on behalf of his company with russia. he's negotiated deals around the world. this is a smart business man. so i think getting mexico to pay for this wall will be incredibly tough. if you're going to put anybody in charge of negotiating this, tillerson is a good choice along with general kelly. >> there's all sorts of ways to get them to pay for it. they seem particular, the mexicans, annoyed about what will be a new immigration vetting thing on the part of the administration. more to the point, anyone coming into this country or for that matter already here. some are so angry that they wasted time to take it up with
the white house and go to the u.n. >> that's bluster. remember mexico is in the middle of a political election themselves. you saw the person the third highest in the polls before trump was elected is now at the highest. people in mexico want to be the toughest to stand up for trump and stand up to mexico. you have to look at the comments to the u.n. and the broader context of wanting to be seen as tough. that's -- tillerson will have to play the good cop to trump being the bad cop. something important to remember, the economy is fragile in mexico. s will clearly a massive drug problem. a problem with central americans coming into mexico. when you look at what will happen over the next year with this election cycle in mexico, we're going to need to support
whoever wins in mexico. support the current administration there. because of the drug problem that could get significantly worse as the economy gets worse in mexico. i was just in bogata. the central and lat ten and south americans are looking at venezuela melting down there with the problems as it relayses to communism. so a lot of problems this this part of the world. we need strong u.s. presence. perhaps tillerson can play a crucial and key role in this administration. >> neil: they were calming figures today. we'll see how that goes. morgan, great chatting with you. >> thank you. >> neil: these are becoming almost a staple event. you can see a republican lawmaker hold a town hall meeting. well-organized protests pop up. there is a way to handle this. meet the republican from virginia that thinks he's found one after this. what's the best way to get two servings of veggies? v8 or a powdered drink? ready, go. ahhhhhhhh! shake! shake! shake! shake! shake!
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>> neil: all right. i want to show you a story of two different republican town hall meetings. what's gotten to be common of late, a disruption. take a look. [chanting]. >> neil: all right. you have throngs showing up. they're angry. they don't necessarily want to hear what you have to say. then there's this. a former navy seal, virginia congressman scott taylor had a different approach to his town hall meeting. take a look. >> calm down, calm down.
[inaudible]. >> neil: you know, it didn't get that bad. maybe the fact that he's a former navy seal and he kept it cool and calm and they got to discussing things in a rationale way, which is doable in this very super heated environment. congressman scott taylor joining us right now. good to have you, sir. >> good afternoon neil. great to be with you. >> neil: that has to be un-nerving. many leaving under security escort. it's gotten out of control. when it got raucous, what did you do? what was your intent? >> our third town hall was last night. there wasn't any shouting. let me say it's important that people have a seat at the table and respected that their voice is heard.
you have to take precautions for safety concerns. we had some things that weren't seen there to make sure that not only our people are safe but the people in the town hall itself. that's the main concern. so there are certainly techniques where people ask questions, how you get them to ask questions. instead of getting a microphone to a crowd. we had people write it open the index card. we would pull out and answer the questions. that being said, you have people that you would have the crowd, because it's largely this crowd as opposed to my policies and the president's policies. they would shout if they didn't like something. that's fine. you did have a couple people that are actually from the local democrat party that were trying to make people cheer and revel. those folks, you have to isolate them. >> neil: how do you isolate them? >> call them out. call them out. i'm from here. i know the people in that party. i can see them start to try to
get the crowd to chant unnecessarily. not even for -- >> neil: in your district? are they allowed to be there or -- we always get the reports. i don't know what is true. people flood these events and they're not from the said district of the congressman or woman. >> we were certainly -- you have to be careful. you want everybody to participate. sometimes people get left out, of course. i didn't see any paid protesters. i'm not aware of that. there were organic folks that have never been involved before, which is good. that's a good thing. when i see somebody trying to cause a problem, i'll call them out. that's not helping for everybody. the whole crowd sees what they're doing. it's contagious. so is the opposite. doesn't take much for the crowd's emotions to go crazy. when the whole crowd is cheering, when they don't agree with you, you let them vent. >> neil: i noticed you were doing that. a lot of your colleagues, congressman, have had it with this and being fed up or becoming a piñata.
some have cancelled their events. one congressman is only taking telephone questions. i'm not sure if details on that. don't hold me to that. that they're getting twice shy by these developments. what do you think of that? >> well, you know, let me first say -- i spoke to a lot of members of congress. they're legitimate safety concerns. have to make sure everything is equipped and everything is okay for that. we should listen to folks. we should talk to them and let them vent. i'll tell you, i had three town halls. each one was calmer and calmer. the first people who had to get it out and go crazy. last night, you had none of that. zero of that. it's waning. that could change on what happens in the environment. we should talk to folks, let them see us.
listen to them. part of the job i signed up for -- we represent a lot of people and diverse opinions. >> neil: thanks, congressman. >> my pleasure. >> neil: there's a way to do this so everybody can feel their needs are addressed. he might have found it. the minnesota democratic congressman that says, you know, we might already have enough grounds to impeach donald trump. are you kidding me? hambone! sally! 22! hut hut! tiki barber running a barber shop?
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>> i think that he -- donald trump has done a number of things that relegitimately raised the question of impeachment. >> if they name deal ellison the leader of the dnc, it commend truth in advertising. >> the next man to be the head of the dnc says it's time to consider impeaching president trump. i kid you not. this is escalating quickly.
we have sara with here and robin. robin, do you think to someone who aligns with the democratic party that is going a little far? >> absolutely, neil. think ellison is much too left for the party. the party needs to understand what the direction of populism in america is. the issues that matter to everyday americans. ellison, i don't think he's our guy. i was really hoping for jamie harrison. he's from my home state of south carolina. i think someone like tom perez, someone that gets it. talking about impeachment, that's sensationalistic and to left even as a democrat. >> and gina, this comes as a time when the democrats are wondering what will be our new soul, our new direction. you hear from a lot of the sanders folks that are, you know, moving in on the local level, county levels and getting
more of the top party spots that, that that will be the face of the party, not necessarily bernie sanders but a far left face. what do you make of that? >> well, i guess -- i'm on ground here at cpac. the whisper campaign among republicans is that they home the democrats pick someone as radical and leftist as ellison. it appears they'll do the same thing that just lost them the election in 2016. the republicans can smell blood in the water for 2020 and saying that's a great thing with us if they want to get somebody that is so far left and leaves out all of middle america's opinion. >> the argument for them getting excited is they're looking at the president's poll numbers and the fact that, you know, he's not being received that well. they think that, as one was telling me on fox business, he's so a one-termer. we jump to conclusions.
we said the same thing about ronald reagan and he won re-election in a landslide. what do you make hoff this? >> the dnc chairman race is showing lack of clarity in the democratic party about where it goes from here. the opposite problem that republicans have. democrats don't have really any ideas and proposals other than pure obstruction of trump's agenda. the republicans are sort of paralyzed on undecision. some of trump's approval ratings are due to the slow pace because of congress. so democrats and republicans sort of suffering from opposite problems here. we're not really seeing a clear direction of the democratic party.
not from the dnc chair race. >> neil: and what do you think of the notion that the republicans are imploding? i don't know how you can say that a month in. they're doing unpopular things, the repeal and replace of obamacare is proving to be heavier than they thought. the tax cuts could be delayed. let them implode and let us watch. what do you think? >> a new pole just came out that showed 55% of people said that donald trump is not a good leader. right now his popularity is hovering at 38%. so those are valid concerns. >> neil: you're right. but that does depend on the survey. they're all over the map. historically he's low. but is that the strategy? just let him implode? is that what democrats think? >> i hope not. because we all suffer. if this president fails, we all suffer. i truly hope that's not the case. i would like to see donald trump spend more time taking intelligence briefings. he's spent six hours doing that
the last month. spent 13 hours tweeting. he needs to take -- >> neil: you didn't have problems with barack obama playing golf? >> donald trump spent 20% of his time on the golf course. >> neil: i'm not going back there. one of the things that i see completely missed here, $3 trillion in market wealth added to the economy. doesn't get much talk in the press and ceos hiring workers and ex-planning plants in this country. i know that goes, but that doesn't seem -- i'm all for getting all the warts out on donald trump too on the media, but at least cover the other stuff. >> yeah, i think that is exactly what we're seeing right now, neil. a focus from -- on the part of the republicans. the republicans seem literally undaunted by the enless smears and attacks coming at them from fake news. the democrats still seem to have
no idea why they lost. last week, they had a candidate up for dnc chair that was talking about doing intraspection a most mortum. he faded away. if they make this choice, republicans will be right there alongside of them celebrating looking forward to 2020. >> neil: sarah, what do you think of that? >> i think you're right, the market confidence is something the administration points to as evidence that they're doing well. that confidence is likely to evaporate if congress can't pass the tax reforms. >> neil: good point. >> that's part of where the confidence is coming from. this honeymoon period that the republicans are experiencing will go away if they don't start moving on the agenda items now that they have all three branches of government. >> neil: thank you all. meantime, you've heard about this president wanting to go after sanctuary cities and states. why a particular sheriff is
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who are saying no, i don't have to do that. the law is what? >> well, this seems to be obviously a case where it's all about the messenger and not the message. the obama administration deported 2.5 million illegal aliens during his last term. you didn't see the coverage and the uproar and the gnashing of teeth you see now. i've been in law enforcement 34 years. the spirit and montra is that we work together and cooperate. the constitution and federal laws are the supreme law of the land. immigration, we have the immigration and naturalization law, an act by congress, which is the law of the land. there's no sheriffs out there that want to round up kids from schools and otherwise people that are law-abiding, doing what they're supposed to be doing. but we have to bring a halt to the influx of illegal immigration in our certain border. it's a big burden on sheriffs, border sheriffs, state sheriffs. it's time that we send a message
that the law be in force. to say we're not going to cooperate or a governor to ask his people not to cooperate with the federal government is appalling. >> neil: now, what is this procedure involve, sheriff? i'm told that you can't deliberately go after illegals. if you're finding someone and you run a red light or speeding and in the process you discovered the person is illegal, you can pursue an arrest and kick them out of the country or whatever. but even that is frowned on in some cities and states that consider themselves sanctuary havens. where does the law specifically apply to cases like that? >> it's as simple as this. sheriffs, deputies out there every day make traffic stops in the routine course of law enforcement duty. if they're arrested under an
offense, they're arrested. ice has the notification of the inmate. they get their records and look at it to determine whether or not the alien fits the category that is being prioritize, whether they have a criminal record, involved in drug trafficking. through some new factors involved that homeland security just came out with looking into the abuse of public benefits and other things. it's not the innocent person not doing anything wrong. they're arrested. if ice comes in, they can ask us to detail for 48 hours. some sheriffs are honoring them, some are not. they're being advised not to do that. take it to its large call extreme. what if we're dealing with someone wanted for murder, a violent individuals? we have violent individuals that are american citizens and we have them that are immigrants. what do we do? not cooperate and just -- it's the law of the land. all we're asking for is we're a country and a nation of laws.
let's enforce our laws. >> neil: well put, sheriff. good having you. >> thanks very much. >> neil: all right. maybe in this low polling environment where the media loves to pounce on the fact that the president's poll numbers aren't up to historical snuff, that they can brag about one that says they're just slightly more popular. that would be like me saying slightly more popular than the most offensive person in the universe. think about that.
president trump. they believe they're not that popular themselves. there's other numbers that flip those around and that president trump is more popular than the media. my point is -- pulitzer prize winning columnist, michael goodwin's point is, be careful what you're bragging about. what do you make of this? the media is saying see, see, we're more likeable than he is. we're more trustworthy and believable than he is. >> neil, that poll did not persuade me of much of anything. when you say "the media", that's such a big universe. >> neil: you're right. >> whether it's the broadcast networks, cable, fox, your local newspaper, the national newspapers, the websites. so i thought it was indiscriminate and lumping everything together. i think the president is more right than wrong on this. he has been unfairly treated and
so have his supporters by the mainstream media that i call the democratic media. it's on a partisan basis that they have attacked during the campaign and continue to as president. so i think that is the -- that is the issue that he is facing. i do think at the same time that he has to be careful not to overplay this hand. because after a while, it can begin to sound like an excuse that i failed because of the media whereas i think what he wants the narrative to be, we succeeded despite the media. that for him is the best position to be in. >> neil: one of the things he mentioned -- i think he makes a valid point here. the media has the pit falls, the problems and that goes for many administrations. he never gets the benefit of the doubt. more like the doubt of the benefit. good news is often left out like what's going on in the markets and the ceos. not across the board. but enough that it bugs him.
he wouldn't be the first president to feel that way. but it's particularly pronounced with him. should he just dismiss it or should he cite it to say like he did in the opening of his press conference last week, here's the good stuff i've been doing. i thought i would let you know because they're not reporting it. >> he's right. if you watch him and follow him, it's through a glass dark lay. everything is negative. if the stock market is going up, it's about how much longer can it last. is it real. what happens when it crashes. so everything takes on a negative approach when it comes to home. i think it's intentional. i don't think it's just being skeptical. i don't think it's even being adversarial in the best sense of the word. it's being partisan. that's what's broken down in the media system. there's no longer a single
standard of rules. there's one standard for democrats, one standard for republicans and another standard for donald trump. >> neil: well-put. michael goodwin, a cracker jack writer. good talking to you. >> thank you, neil. >> neil: sadly the last week or so, we lost some wonderful people. sometimes i like to step back and read what other people are saying about those wonderful people. very revealing. for our latest colleague who has left, very special.
show or his razor-sharp wit or comedic talent. alan really did stand out doing stand-up comedy. maybe because he could step back and find humor, people of all stripes warmed up to him. his cohort and friend sean hannity said it better than i could. appearances on his show, this show, and so many other shows, it wasn't alan politics that defined him but his decency. i've been reading a lot of comments people have been posting and what i immediately noticed right away, no one, not one did the "on the one hand" thing. do you know what that's about? when someone tries to explain or kind word for someone who has just died.
he was kind, decent. not nice -- but just nice. he passionately debated. there was no caveat, no clarification, no asterisks. maybe that's because it just hit us "no alan." he's gone. one moment so much a part of our lives, the next, where did he g go? it's trite to say be grateful you are alive, even more trite to say appreciate those while you still can but you know something? when it's over, when it's all over for any of us, i think of worse things than to be remembered for being decent and kind and making others laugh. it's not a bad commentary on your life for folks of all stripes and views to say you made them smile, not that they just really miss you but they are all the better for simply having known you.
not bad, 11. actually nice. very, very nice. we will miss you, my friend. alan colmes, dead at 66. >> hello everyone. i'm dana perino welcome to "the five." our dear colleague passed away and we will miss him greatly. later, we will pay tribute to him. stay tuned for that. we begin with our top story. cpac kicked off today. president trump will address the conference tomorrow, his vice president will fire up the crowded tonight. earlier some of the president's top aides took the stage, including kellyanne conway, betsy devos, ernst reince pries and steve bannon