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ruth and it is one probably every president can relate to see specially when the going gets tough the bambino said you can't beat the person who never gives up. truth, right? we'll see you here tomorrow night. >> bill: "the o'reilly factor" is on tonight. >> when a nominee doesn't get 60 votes you shouldn't change the rules. you should change the nominee. >> that will not happen and it should not happen. that will hurt all of us. talking points. we'll deal with it tonight. >> i want you all to know we are fighting the fake news. fake. >> bill: an explosive new report says a confidant was involved in the controversy of the trump campaign. if true, that's huge. >> why is columbia liberal? >> i don't know it is. >> really?
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>> bill: and jesse watters going to one of the most liberal universities in the nation to talk to the students. >> is fox news welcome here? >> why not. i'm talking to you guys. >> bill: caution, you're entering the no-spin zone. "the factor" begins right now. hi. i'm bill o'reilly thanks for watching. civil war and congress is the talking points. it's all about hating trump not partisan politics. there's no doubt judge neil gorsuch is qualified so sit on the supreme court and he will. a confirmation coming friday one way or another. republicans in the senate must p p prevail on the judge or the party and president will be greatly damaged. that's what the democratic party wants. the strategy is simple, oppose
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every change the president wants to make and everything he wants to do. create as much mayhem as possible and tell the american people mr. trump doesn't know how to govern. meanwhile the american people get hammered because worthy people like neil gorsuch are disparage and innovative policies are sabotaged. i mean, did you watch any of the gorsuch hearings. i don't want to compare the judge to jesus but it was the same thing. democratic senators trying to trap the judge into saying something controversial. trying to paint the man as someone not worthy of being on the court. now, fair-minded folks have political differences, i know i do, but political hit jobs are office. they have questions designed to demean the judge. we now have an opposition agenda
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designed on hatred not what's best for the country. listen. they say the president is destroying the country on immigration and global warming have created fury and moderate democrats are under pressure to support the hate trump strategy. interesting to watch the missouri senator claimed judge gorsuch as cold and against the folks and missouri is turning republican so the senator may come to regret her stance. finally, many republicans oppose president obama's agenda. there was little common ground but five gop senators confirmed the liberal elena kagan and president obama got his trade authority and debt limits were raised. the system was strained under mr. obama but it functioned. now political hatred is
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threatening our republican and we the people will pay a huge price if things don't change. now joining us from washington, charles. am i overstating things, doctor? >> yes. i'm sure there's an element of trump hatred for just about everything the democrats do on capitol hill but there's nothing like the level of vitriol in the board hearings in the thomas clarence hearings when george h.w. bush was president. >> bill: but those men were much more conservative than judge gorsuch is. >> i don't think you can say that about clarence thomas. add the fact he was head of the eeoc. that was a political hit job of the first order and it was all --
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>> bill: do you think do you think the hatred of ronald reagan was at the same level of donald trump? >> i don't. that's why i don't think it's a bad hatred of the president. i think it has to do with the democrats deciding and there's no doubt it decided is the hearings they decided 200 years of tradition which was you should generally approve a judge that is somehow educated, intelligence, experienced -- scalia was approved 98-2. to the difference ideologically between scalia was nothing. they decided however, the court they had to have the court liberalism is a minority about 20%. if you want to continue to dominate the way liberals had
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you weren't going to do it through the congress or presidency where the people decide. the only way to do it would be to control the court and that's where they went. it's not to do with trump him sef or trump hatred. >> bill: i can't believe you don't see it. expand it out. >> i can't believe you see it. >> bill: expand it out. is there anything donald trump has proposed from a crackdown on illegal immigration to the wall to taking regulations away and letting the fossil fuel industry do more to the pipeline to national security to vetting people in countries that can't vet. is there anything the democrats so far have supported? no. nothing. zero. >> expand this out, if gorsuch was a nominee and ronald reagan were president or george h.w.
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bush were president do you think the democrats would be any more accommodating and wouldn't try -- >> bill: i can't answer that. >> the answer know. >> bill: look, there isn't anything donald trump campaigned on," anything, the democrats will support. not even improving the economy by having a tax cut. not even that. not even revamping obamacare which has punished working americans. they're not going to support anything. they hate him. they can't stand his face. >> well, i'm glad there's at least one psychiatrist in our discussion. it appears to be you. you appear to have direct insight into the motives. i don't know the motives. for some people on the congress, perhaps yes. for some no. the explanation is the party is
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enraged. they lost the election to a guy they think is unworthy and can't get over it. >> bill: you're saying about what i'm saying. >> no, i'm not. you boil it down to its simplest form they're so angry and can't stand him. >> the "they" you use can be for anything. i'm saying the politicians are responding to the threat and the demands of the base. they don't want to be primary. so you're mayor mcclaskill you're worried to lose. does she hate trump. i don't know, we don't know but we do know she wants to be
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re-elected. >> bill: ok. i don't know. i don't know. and another thing, one more thing before i let you go. >> one thing. >> bill: the washington nationals the mets are going to stopping you and beat your butt. >> so much error, so little time. >> bill: all right. next on the rundown will the democratic party admit that hatred for the president's getting out of hand? we'll find out. and a shocking report said the obama confidant susan rice was involved in trump surveillance. brett hume upcoming.
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marjorie clifton. >> i don't know it's party specific. i think there's lots of people who have strong emotions because he's done things to evoke responses about the wall and comments about women that go beyond politics but when it comes to things like the hearing we're talking about i think that's separate and what is like you talked about the base being fired up, that's going to energize politicses who politicians. >> bill: we did a survey and people don't follow the supreme court like that and don't know who neil gorsuch is or watch the hearings we're talking about the general folks not people who watch "the o'reilly factor." this is a good man, gorsuch, you see that don't you?
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honorable man? >> he seems such. i agree this is not the food fight i mate be worth in a ditch climate. >> bill: he's a good man and his record on the bench is stellar. it's a stellar record then when he was appointed to the lower court all the democrats went along with it, ok. now they don't. it's not because of gorsuch it's because of trump. they don't want to give trump the big win and it will be a big win for trump on friday. you know it will be. and here's what i don't understand and maybe you can explain this to me. they know gorsuch will be confirmed one way or another so now they're just being obstructionist. i don't care if he has a good record. don't you think that will upset independent americans. >> it's about fairness and how the president has been operating has felt unfair to people part of the political process starting with the fact --
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>> bill: you're making my point. they want to punish president trump because he's not fair. >> i'm making the same point charles made is they have to see to their base and districts who are fired up because of the policies of what this seemingly republican administration -- >> bill: it's not a major issue. >> but they care about when, for example, him trying to undermine the entire judicial system saying so-called judges. i think the need for fairness -- >> bill: come on, it's an off-hand comment. he won. >> but the pettiness that we have seen from trump , his takig to twitter. >> bill: you consider him petty and some liberals so we're going to oppose anything he does? that's exactly my point. you're making my point for me. thank you. >> but another point i'd also
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make is i don't think democrats and republicans alike feel gorsuch is the way he rules on different subject matter is exactly super fair. so that is -- i don't think that's a universal truth but more not fair is when the democrats put judge garland up they refused to give him a trial at all. >> bill: if you have a good guy now that can help the country. >> it's about fairness. it's about who's going to be a unifier and trump is not being a unifier. finding ways to bring people together to feel we're part of a process everyone honors is a key and partial thing. i'm with charles. >> bill: you made my point for me. they don't like him so anything he does they're not going to
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cooperate. bret hume on explosive allegations that susan rice was involved in the surveillance and jesse watters talking to students about left-wing politics. the reports after these messages. dry mouth can affect how your mouth feels and how you feel. discover act dry mouth, specially formulated to soothe and moisturize your mouth. and try new act dry mouth spray for relief when you need it.
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>> bill: fox news senior correspondent adam houseley susan rice was involved in the trump surveillance. the president tweeted the trump tower was surveillance and led to media on the issue. a number of trump campaign people were picked up on wiretaps and susan rice requested in january that they be unmasked.
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president trump this morning tweeted the revelation was amazing but has not yet been confirmed as true. joining us now is bret hume. you may tell everybody the fox news report is based on anonymous sources. that makes me uneasy but houseley is a good reporter and now john roberts is getting the same information. >> and eli lake at bloomberg has the story and susan rice has not responded. if this not the case the consensus is she'd be quick to say so so we can't conclude it's' real deal but there's real efforts and confirms of surveillance and unmasking is a
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legitimate thread. >> bill: we don't want to be like other cable networks who put anything on the air and say it's through and have putin and trump vacationing in thailand. it's madness. here so people understand, susan rice, very close to valerie jarrett who is the top adviser, was the top adviser to barack obama. susan right said the video caused the benghazi uprising and attack turned out not to be true and we have houseley, robertson and lake now saying that rice ordered in january right before the inauguration unmasking of people who should not have been unmasked on wiretaps but she ordered it and secondly we know
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the obama administration allowed sharing of all kinds of intel that had never been shared before so these people -- their names would have been all over the place. that's what i can deduce from this. >> right. and this presumably is what house intelligence chairman devin nunes was talking about or looking at. so there's anything here and the precise form we don't know. it's conceivable susan rice could have had legitimate intelligence purpose for unmasking the names. it would be very interesting to find out what that legitimate purpose was. it's also the case, bill, devin nunes said the information he saw that indicated the unmasking did not have to do with russia. so this is a -- >> bill: you would think an incoming administration would be talking to foreign leaders and talking to people trying to set
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up appointments after they take office and all that. so there wasn't anything nefarious about trump administration people. >> nothing nefarious and legitimate reasons where that would have occurred. >> bill: here's the smoking gun. susan rice now you assume will be called in front of the intelligence committees in the house and senate and asked. you would assume she'll fake take it fifth. i can guarantee it and then the whole thing blows up. >> i can see why you would conclude that but it establishes something's wrong if she's trying to avoid self-incrimination and she's also likely to be questioned by the feb if it's doing its job
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appropriately. >> bill: we'll never know. >> the current fbi director may know. >> bill: the senate and house will be all over this. this story is starting to explode dwarfing the russian thing because the russia thing's going on for a while and there's no evidence. even schiff the ranking democrat -- >> he didn't say that but came close. this means we'll have dual-track investigations in both houses at a minimum and the whole question of the gathering of intel surveillance and unmasking of american names will be a significant part.
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there's no way to turn back from that now. >> bill: i'm real curious. i were nunes i'd call susan rice next week. why do you think it's going it take a while? >> normally the way this stuff works, bill, is you do a pr pre-interview with staff and bring them forward for the grand public questioning. >> bill: i'm prepared. >> i can tell. brit hume. "the factor" has inside information president trump is already changing his white house staff. and columbia university. >> do you believe conservatives are welcome on campus? >> i wouldn't necessarily say welcomed. >> bill: we hope you stay tuned for those reports.
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>> bill: president trump may be retooling his white house staff after two and a half maths in -- months in office. we have more. you're the chief national correspondent, right. you know more than anybody about what happens -- >> i don't know about that. >> bill: you wouldn't be the chief. that's an important title. >> i don't know more than "the
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factor." >> bill: well, nobody does. i'm assuming you more than anybody than john roberts and he's good. >> after the health care defeat he was thrashing around, tweeting and i'm told by three different advisors to him not currently in the white house saying he's started to call a lot of them and reached out to newt gingrich and chris christie and said putting aside some anger. now it's time to get to work and the aide said this is vintage trump he suffers a blow and then retools. he did it three times in the campaign. >> bill: what's the white house staff have to do with the failure of the new obama care? >> chief of staff, reince priebus and others told him he has the votes. >> bill: are you sure? >> i've been told by several people close to the president.
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>> bill: we know ryan did but priebus also told him along with speaker ryan this is going to pass. nobody likes to get bad information and look silly. >> i've been told over the next couple weeks we should expect more changes. how quickly, how high up, we simply don't know yet or want to speculate but the advisors are saying there's chatter among the white house staff and advisors outside the white house he's ready to bring in a second wave of people. >> bill: already? wouldn't that make him look weak? >> it could. he wants separation from the whole mike flynn business because that's embarrassing. you do another retooling after you take out the national security adviser. but as several advisors told me it looked bad in the campaign when he fired two campaign managers. they said it was a mess.
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>> bill: so you see gingrich and christie and giuliani. >> i'm not sure they're getting senior positions but bring them in the fold. the point is he's reaching out to some of the people with him at the beginning. the fear among former campaign people not inside the white house is there are a lot of people the president's been listening to in the first 50, 70 days who were not on board at the beginning including speaker ryan -- >> bill: ryan looked bad himself. it's his job get the votes and he didn't do it. >> and i'm told the speaker ryan wasn't the speaker or reince priebus it was the freedom caucus. that led to the president tweeting angry stuff at the freedom caucus and now i'm told inside t
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inside the white house -- >> bill: there's been a couple article the white house is in disarray. >> that's not true. >> bill: you wrote a book on jackie robinson and a lot's been written and the first african american ball player and today's opening day. >> 70 years ago broke the color barrier this month. >> bill: what's the headline? what don't we know? >> he almost wasn't signed after second thoughts. the general manager. i found this out from a relative from a minister in brooklyn who had a knock on the door from ricky saying i don't know if i can go through with this. >> bill: what was he afraid of? >> there were votes from other managers saying we don't want to integrate and he was standing up against them but afraid -- and
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i've spoken to others that if jackie failed the experiment went under ricky would have been washed up, done. he went to this minister among many other meetings he had and said to the minister i've decided to sign jackie robinson to the first baseball contract. it's the hardest position in my life and need to be in god's presence to know it's the right thing to do. >> bill: robinson was great. >> there's a lot of new information in the book how jackie's faith sustained him when people were using the "n" word and threatening his life. >> bill: he prevailed. >> it's a wonderful legacy. >> bill: ed henry. check his book out. we come right back to another outrageous story.
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a college under attack for creating safe spaces. the witch hunt continues and we talk politics. moments away.
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>> bill: i'm bill o'reilly and craziness on college campuses. my new book deals with a lot of the madness. the snowflake culture being imposed on american students. we gave a number of examples. many are funny but underneath the chuckles are tragedy. now at northern arizona university. the president of that school being asked to resign because she opposed safe spaces. >> at a forum but on this week students raised concerns over incidents on campus they say promotes hate speech and racism. >> i'm not sure i have any support at all for safe space. >> and the president responding to survive in the world students should develop skills to have different opinions. >> we need to provide the
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opportunity for discourse and debate and dialog and academic inquiries and i'm not sure that's correlated with the notion of safe space. >> mary anne marsh and i side with the president but why is this happening? >> for a couple reasons. first i think we should applaud president chang for rejecting the students and rejecting their nonsense and saving them from themselves. they'll be far more prepared for the real world than they would have been than if she'd accepted their safe spaces so they only heard things they wanted to listen to and agree with. it keeps happening. despite what president chang saying it's the professors organizing the push for safe spaces. they're the ones teaching about
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micro aggressions. >> bill: real quickly define what a safe spacing is on northern arizona's campus. what would that be? >> essentially a safe space say place you can go where only liberal ideas are espoused you happen to agree with. >> bill: it's a liberals-only zone. like segregation. mary anne, when you and i were at harvard and were at the smartest people at the kennedy school by far -- >> sure. >> bill: there weren't safe spaces there. everybody just walked around. you got a dopey locker and ate lunch with everybody and this doesn't come up. what's changed since 1845? >> it was about that long ago. i think colleges have come to reflect our society which is increasingly divide and no one can work anything out much like our politics. it's not a surprise.
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i do support the fact president chang decide to reject safe space and thought her reason was good. it's better to try to deal with issues you disagreed with rather than hide from them. that's what college is all about but i think where she may have fallen short is not showing enough leadership on a couple controversial issues that happened on campus she could have stood up for and address. >> bill: i wasn't there and you weren't there and i've seen far too many times where things have been distort and if you disagree with somebody it's hate speech. if you criticized african americans you're a racist. that's the environment in which we live right now. go ahead, katie. >> a student compared about a man named brother jeb who goes around not just to nau but campuses and i remember seeing him. he doesn't just say anti-gay
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things and straight thing and horrible things and serves as a good example of how i don't want to be and because students are exposed they know that's not what they want to be. he shows up saying ridiculous things. >> bill: he just shows up. if to the school doesn't like him -- look, i'm a freedom of speech guy but if i were the college president and uncle jed i'd put him right out of there. >> it's in the a safe space. >> bill: i don't want disruption. >> he's in the public square at a public university. >> bill: if you want to do it do it from the middle of town. >> bill, they can say the same thing about you. >> bill: i'm not sympathizing with the snowflakes. mary anne gets the last word. >> the president signed a letter
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in supporting it so undocuments students felt supported by this president. the best thing to do whether it's a controversial speaker or not using your interlect and information to refute that person. use every opportunity you have to show kids how to handle situations. to handle the world better. >> bill: i don't want to give power to come on and disrupt anything. that's my line. watters is on deck and travels to a conservative college, columbia university to talk politics with the students. watters is next. [ grunts ] leave him! leave him! [ music continues ] brick and mortar, what?! [ music continues ] [ tires screech ] [ laughs ] [ doorbell rings ] when you bundle home and auto you get more than a big discount.
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>> bill: watters world. why are so many american universities so far left? to get a grip on the question
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watters went to columbia university here in new york city. >> what's your major? >> history. >> i was a history major. look how i turned out. i haven't seen this many radicals in one place since woodstock. >> i feel like that's going a bit far. >> truth has nothing to do with reality. >> are you a far left radical? >> yes. >> your not going to fire bomb me are you? >> of course not. yet. >> why is columbia so far left? >> i think being in new york city certainly is just a typically more liberal location. >> i voted for trump. the people that grade my papers once they know who i voted for they're opinion of me radically is changed. >> oh, i get it. >> have you one left-wing professor that was a member of
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the weather underground. have you had her for a class in >> i have not. >> lucky you. has the trump election traumatized you? >> yes. >> after the election they professors want safe spaces to cry about the election. >> i don't think crying will accomplish anything. >> the staff and faculty are overwhelming liberal. nine times more to republicans. >> is that an alternative fact. >> i've had professor who's have challenged me and i identify as a liberal and they've been on the conservative spectrum. >> are conservatives tolerated at the school? >> some conservatives are tolerated but generally the mob tries to shut us down and call us stupid or racist if we try to say anything. >> is fox news welcome at columbia? >> i will always welcome you.
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>> define kooky? is free speech allowed by conservatives? >> for sure but in free speech you have to allow for challenging of those ideas. >> i didn't know all that so i'm sorry. >> do you think fox news is welcome here? >> why not? i'm talking to you guys. >> you can't have it both ways so make up your mind. >> do you think bill o'reilly would be welcomed here? >> i'd love to meet him. >> definitely not. when the iranian president spoke here everybody listened politely but when the u.n. ambassador spoke there were protests. >> protests is how we engage in civil discourse. that's what democracy means. >> do you know who i am? >> i don't. >> i'm watters and this is my world. >> nice.
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>> bill: i was born at columbia presbyterian hospital. they booted me right out. one day, you, out of there. >> there's pro-palestinian groups and they have anti-israeli professors there i can't pronounce and people go there because of these professors. >> bill: i don't understand it. you have it on the upper west side it's jewish primarily and the university is so anti-jewish and i could never figure out why. i guess they feel they've taken the palestinians land? >> yes, the occupation. they're very upset about that and it was very hostile territory for me. i've never had so many "f" bombs
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thrown at me. lots of "f" bombs. >> bill: and you didn't reply in kind. >> of course not. i never talk like that. i said it's my world. i was in a safe space. >> bill: was it the logo on the mic? aback to the tip of the day saving kids in big trouble. moments away.
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ninnyhammer. i am bill o'reilly, please remember the spin stops here. we are definitely looking out for you. >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight," broadcasting live from an new studio paid for by you. fitting because today we saw perhaps the biggest twist yet in the serpentine story of president trump and the alleged surveillance of him and his staff by the obama administration. multiple news outlets reported that president obama's national security advisor susan rice personally and repeatedly ordered the unmasking of trump associates whose comedic occasions with foreigners were monitored by the u.s. governmen government. now, let's get to the