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russia and syria to understand what's happening. go to that's all the time we have left. see you tomorrow night. a good . bill o'reilly is up next. ♪ >> dana perino in for bill o'reilly who is on vacation. major developments happening on several fronts today. russia, syria, flayo, controversy at home and abroad. we will be joined by white house press secretary sean spicer, at the center of an ongoing store i. before yesterday, let's talk about the huge foreign policy events much today. rex tillerson met with russian president vladimir putin and president trump met with the head of nato.
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>> in facing our common challenges we must ensure that nato members meet their financial obligations and way this they owe. many have not been doing. that we're not getting along with russia at all. we may be at an all-time low in terms of relationship with russia. this is built for a long period of time. but we're going to see what happens. right now, the world is a mess. but i think by the time we finish, i think it's going to be a lot better place to live. can i tell you, that speaking for myself, by the time i'm finished, it will be a lot better place to live in. because right now, it's nasty. >> the president also said that he no longer thinks nato is obsolete but needs to do more to fight terrorism. as far back as 2015, bill laid out a plan. >> nato should declare war on eye sis.
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they could set up into syria and huge problem might begin to be solved n syria is in danger, protected by nato forces on the ground there's no reason to go to turkey, europe, or america. >> joining us from washington, white house press secretary sean spicer. former press secretary, current press secretary in the no spin zone. sean, will president trump be able to support something like bill was describing, nato can get involved and combat isis and solve this problem in syria? >> there's a lot of great discussion around. that you saw the secretary general discuss his commitment to further rooting out terrorism and isis through the region a lot of commitment that he talked about how there are five countries currently living up to their 2% gdp, what they're supposed to be committing to, to be part of nato. that number is going to rise to 8. we'll see a financial commitment as well as an overall strategic commitment from nato to make
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sure that we combat isis. >> unusual, president trump doesn't always admit that he changed his position. today he was blunt and he said, to the sam ras and the audience that he used to think it was obsolete and no longer thinks that. do you have any more insight? >> it's not so much what necessarily he's done, it's what they have done. as i mention, he's made nato's relevance and the commitment offers this to live up to their financial commitments. for many years too many countries got a free ride. most suntries don't live up to 29%. the u.s. exceeds it. if you realize that five of the nato countries have gotten their 2% commitment, under the current nato secretary general, he admitted in large part to president trump that number is continuing to rise. overall we've seen 3.8% increase in nato funding, in funding from countries in terms of defense. we expect eight of those countries overall to make that commitment to 2%. because of the president's
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stance on this and commitment and making this a priority, i think you're seeing nato move closer and closer to where it should be. >> nikki haley, u.n. ambassador, had a tweet after the voting that, took place around 3:00, if i can pull this up. i thought it was so pithy. after today's vote to hold syria accountable it's strong day for the u.s., a weak day for russia, a new day for china and doomsday for assad. she's basically putting assad on notice. to the point that i think, is the white house saying your move, what's next for you, because we are changing the dynamics of the relationship. >> there's a lot to untack in that one little phrase. you saw starting last week the president had, the president of egypt came and met, then president tsi. we asserted the united states place and prominence in the fight against isis and the conflict in syria, largely one
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place in the world community and bipartisan here at home. what that also did, is those relationships that he built over the two days with the president, you saw russia stand today with the united states, because of the relationship, but i think he and the arguments and the persuasiveness of this president. really, isolate russia, in their stance with syria. syria continues to find itself and its actions in a very, very small group of folks, and mostly states aside from russia that are failed states. victory of getting china to side with us is a huge diplomatic victory for the president and our country. >> because they abstained from that vote at the united nations. that is different, for sure. let me ask you something about one of the things, in fact in this morning it was talked about in the event that you participated in, that there's frustration with the white house, and i remember with anonymous sources especially about internal staff battles.
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yesterday we had the president of the united states himself, not an anonymous source, questioning, i don't know if it's questioning, let me ask you, what was he saying when he was talking to michael goodwin, the new york post columnist, about steve bannon, his chief stradist, "i like steve but." what comes after "but?" >> well, i'll be clear, he values steve's commitment to the team and helping advance the agenda. but he also wants to make sure that everybody understands when you look back in the 1980s and 1990s, the policies that this president is now espousing and championing here in terms of trade policies, economic policies, are policies that he held in some cases two, three, four decades. then he wants to make sure that he's clear that, he won this election because of the policies that he's been laying out for decades and commitment to american workers, to grow the economy and keep our country safe. it's the line that's blurred a little bit, he wanted to make it clear. but at the same time, express
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confidence in the team that's here and the talent that he has assembled. >> the democrats, were a hard on somebody as reasonable and competent as neil gorsuch, the supreme court juts advertise, within the first 1900 days of the administers, sproem court justice. how does the president plan to approach them on something else that he talked about, going forward with changes to thashg, but also more -- changes to healthcare and tax reform. >> both issues, i think democrats here in washington have a choice to make. it's tlo whether or not they continue to be, you know, exhibit obstructionism and stand in the way of progress, whether or not there are issues like tax reform and healthcare reform. take them one at a time, healthcare reform is going bankrupt. the way that the obamacare system is set up, it's continuing to reveal fewer and fewer choices to the american people, premiums are going up, and the infrastructure is crumbling, it's costing more to piece it together. the president laid out a hand
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and said that people work together to achieve a common goal he wants to work with them o tax reform it's similar story. on the corporate size our businesses aren't competitive in the global world. we need to give tax relief to the corporations to help them hire and expand and relocate in the united states. and we additionally have to help middle class taxpayers, who have been bearing the brunt of this. if members of congress on either side of the aisle want to join with this president to grow the economy to put people back to work, then he wants to extend a hand and have them help. >> yesterday, you made an error in the briefing when talking about atrocities committed by the syrian president when you compared it to hitler. you immediately corrected that mistake. i thought your apology was quite sincere and genuine. it was interest to be me that all three networks led the news with that mistake and that apology, rather than the other news.
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setting that aside, when did you know, at what point in the briefing did you know that you had something that you had to fix? >> there's two pieces of that, i guess. i really, i'm not focused on that so much, i think i recognized that i made a mistake. one is there's a personal factor, a lot of people that took offense to that, wanted to make sure they understood that was yearly not my intent. more importantly, not more importantly, but equally, to your point we've been having a great week here advancing the president's agenda, he's dochb a phenomenal -- done a phenomenal job reasserting news the world, helping millions of people who need help, as we continue to combat isis, help the peep in syria. it was unfortunate -- help the people in syria. my mistake created a distraction from the great work the president is doing for the country and throughout the world i knew that it needed to be fixed. and i sincerely, not just regret that what i did to other people,
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my own mistake, but a mistake and you let down the president who you serve. my job is to help do what i can to advance things, not get in the way of it. unfortunately yesterday i did just that. >> were you a little harder on yourself, than even the president was? i mean, did you have a chance to talk to him? >> i did. he's one of the most gracious bosses and leaders i can haj. man. but you are harder on yourself, you know this better than anybody, this is an awesome responsibility to have this position. when you are guilty of making a mistake, you recognize that, you know, that at least for me, a little bit hard on myself because i realize that i was a distraction from the great work that this president has and continues to do on behalf of this country. when you overshadow his accomplishments and the commitments that he's making to put people back to work, reform healthcare, on ed kwags, keeping this country safe in so many ways, you have to reflect and just, you know that you are a
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distraction to his great work and the privilege and honor that he's given me. so, it's disappointing to myself. i hope people will acknowledge that. >> i think you are harder on yourself than you need to be. >> i appreciate that. >> you immediately identified it. looking back for me, i think one of the things i most learned in that job, the most important lessons, were about dignity and graciousness, empathy, certainly humility. no job will hullble you like the white house press secretary. anything else you've learned so far, you're about 83 days into the administration. anything surprise you? . no, i think you gave me some very sage advice during the process. i think it really is, you have to go in every day and be prepared as you can be. you have a lot of homework to could every day, trying to represent the american people, the president. making sure that you understand the key issues at hand. and frankly some of the issues that haven't bubbled up to the top. you're as prepared as possible. and you are as focused as possible. you see sometimes what happens when you are not.
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but it is an awesome responsibility, takes a lot of hard work every day, and you do your best to represent this president, this white house, this administration, and this country. >> and it feels, the press is slightly ahead of where the policymaking is. because events have moved so quickly, especially foreign policy, swamping other things, then the continued russia investigation and all of the other unknowns out there. >> that's right, but if you stop and look at what the president has been able to accomplish over the last 10 days, three world cleeders coming in last week -- leaders coming in last week, making progress, it's amazing how many world leaders the president meets w reboulding the relationship the u.s. has lacked for eight years, re-establishing that, working with this president to advance shared goals, economic or national security ones. and the president had a tremendous week last week and took decisive, justifiable and proportional response with syria, got huge praise from around the world. he makes great traction. what we did today continues to
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show that, with the alliance with nato. >> get home to rebecca. thank you. >> thank you. >> next, reaction to reaction to sean spicer. press secretary sea. stay with
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>> continuing with the top story, major developments in american foreign policy and on the home front. we heard from sean spicer. joining us for reaction to that, from boston, james sindell, from
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the boston globe. and the lovely aaron mcpike, white house correspondence. big day, james. some days i can't figure out what is the headline. i don't know you as well, you might qualify for lovely after this interview. >> probably not. >> you can tell me what the headline of today was. >> look, i thought it was a great master stroke for donald trump to have nato in the white house, at the very moment he has rex tillerson in moscow. i'm not sure anyone is quite positive what exactly our relationship with rush why at this point. you hear from russia and from trump that this relationship has soured, that it's in a bad place. and obviously creates opportunities and lowers expectations to make a deal. one thing that trump was clearly doing today was bolstering the american position, when they try to negotiate, make a better deal, when it comes to russia, when it comes particularly to syria. after these bombings on thursday night, we're wondering what
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comes next. we thought that donald trump would dons answer that question, shift foreign policy, or was this just a one-off. but we're waiting for assad and waiting for putin. and if donald trump is serious about repositioning himself on backing nato he may be bolstering the position from america as it faces negotiation with russia right now. >> erin, when you look at -- you know rex tillerson well, you went on that trip with him earlier this year, he's setting expectations so low, president trump saying things are the lowest they've ever been. rex tillerson says there's little trust. president trump call bashar al-assad evil, a butcher, that's strong language. asking the question from the press corps standpoint, mr. trump, what is your next move. if he is an evil butcher. >> and, that's a great question. i don't know the answer to that. the trump administration, that's the one thing we don't know yet.
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i will tell you what i think the headline is for today. which i know your motto has been embrace the chaos, since the inauguration. and this week we're seeing this administration become so much more conventional. i think we are seeing the impact of steve bannon losing a lot of ground within the white house, and you're seeing a lot of these positions coming from the trump administration that just look so much more conventional. based on everything we heard from that press stress today, including donald trump saying that china is no longer a currency manipulator. >> let me ask you, james, if things are moving in a more conventional direction, republicans think, okay, this i can understand, this makes more sense to me, more within my world view. does that make it easier for president trump to drive on his agenda on capitol hill with members of congress, not only -- his own party but possibly reaching across the is a toll democrats on things like tax reform? >> first off, it was interesting
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in your interview with sean spicer, how he totally dodged the question about steve bannon in the interview. >> i couldn't get him. >> very good of you to answer that question. very interesting how he answered it. in terms of the other question, at some level we see a conventional donald trump, i agree with erin's assessment. but raises a larger question, what is the trump doctrine, if he said that nato was obsolete a few months ago now it's very, very relevant in this particular case. that's a big deal. if he makes, comments and changes on syria, like he did last week that,'s a very big deal. when you bring it back home to capitol hill, if tax reform is the biggest piece of the agenda for him right now, and then back it off the last couple of case, maybe our deadline of august isn't going to happen, there's a lot of shifting dynamics going on. if you're a republican on capitol hill you try to figure out where to land, what exactly is the game play right now.
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and donald trump, pretty confused on that question. >> where do you think they try to go, they have 17 days left, the first 1900 days, maybe 16 days and three hours. they think that -- the first 100 days. they've gotten a lot done, the critics say couldn't get all of the things they wanted done. but where do you put things at 17 days to go? >> i think this has been very unexpected that they've done so much more on the world stage than they have domestically. they haven't gotten through any kind of signature piece of legislation, but they are making some moves on the world stage. i would also point out, as sean spicer said in the interview, if the secretary general of nato said some of the reason they're seeing the uptick in defense spending is because donald trump made that an issue. you saw the secretary general kiss the ring today. we're seeing it from other world leaders, quite surprising. >> no doubt the meetings at the white house, 1-on-1s have been good. thank you, james, erin, appreciate it. lovely james. >> thank you. >> when we come back more palace
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intrigue in the white house, ed henry is here to tell us what's really happening in the west wing. catherine tells us about new revelations, the trump advisor was surveilled by the fbi during the campaign. wait until you hear this. hear e come right
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>> dana: in the impact segment, two big stories out of washington. some explosive new information about the fbi's investigation into russia's influence on the 2016 election. and more palace intrigue with the trump administration. joining us from washington, fox news chief national correspondent, ed henry, the author of "the rest of the jackie robinson story." glad to have a copy. there's a reason they call it palace intrigue. numerous report of internal
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strife between jared kushner and steve bannon. it was reported that the president isn't giving a influential endorsement of bannon. sean spicer, the press secretary, addressed that. is the chaos in the white house in terms of the staffing and this battle becoming a distraction that the president doesn't want to see any more? >> yeah, i mean, i spoke to two top advisors to the president this past weekend, who told me on friday at mar-a-lago he told the advisors get together and straighten it out. another piece of it that the advisors said, the president went further, he said straighten it out or i'm going to straighten it out. that tells me he's getting more involved, frustrated about the infighting, steve bannon there with jared kushner his son-in-law and reince priebus. here is the bottom line, that the president liked some of the chaos early on, the competitive tension. when he's winning. when he was on a bit of a streak early in the administration. back in the campaign.
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but now that he lost the healthcare fight, at least round one, they hope to bring it back, struggling to get the tax reform battle going, he does believe in private that this is a big distraction. and he wants to move on from all this. he's not going to fire his son-in-law, jared kushner. bannon and priebus are on the hot seat. the lukewarm comments about bannon didn't help. >> dana: in bannon's defense, there is a block of voters who appreciated some of the messaging that bannon was pushing. and i know that it's hard to corral everybody and try to find consensus in a big electorate. but he does have some very good pull with that voter base. >> he does. the best thing going for bannon according to the trump advisors i talked to, is that he does have that pull with the trump base of the folks who are the outsiders who want to see washington just ripped up into pieces. there's a fear if you push bannon out that's really going to split the trump co-anything, number one. number two, give more power to
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jared kushner and gary cohn, seen as the wall street wing, the moderate wing inside the white house. the bottom line, the best thing going for bannon is two things. one, they don't want to upset that balance, they want to make sure there's an outside voice in the white house like bannon. and number two, i talked to some presidential advisors who are fearful if bannon gets bushed out, he has britebart, and the alt-right movement. he may turn his guns on the white house. what i've been hearing as a scenario is not bannon losing his job but maybe changes jobs, moves into a different role. people think he will survive in the white house. >> dana: thank you. catherine herridge, fox news chief intelligence correspondent. at least one trump advisor was under surveillance during the campaign. can you tell us about that? >> page worked for the trump
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campaign, informal foreign policy advisor. we've interviewed him twice here at fox news and his story is consistent. he told fox he never worked with the russians to help the trump campaign and never worked country. here's the thing, dana, there's so much daylight between what carter page is saying on the record and anonymous sources who allege that he was the campaign's point of contact for rushia. it's tough on reconcile the two stories. >> dana: i find it interesting that carter page continues to agree to do interviews on the record. is that on the advice of council and isn't he worried about that? >> he says that he's not worried and 457y to tell his story, there's so many errors in the record. you have to give him credit for going on the record. you have to give weight to the fact that he's going to answer some of these tough questions. we didn't throw him a lot of softballs today. on the issue of a surveil lanls warrant, i want to say one thing. the fbi director has made the case that there's a high legal
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bar to get one of these surveillance warrants. but i did research and i found this data. and what it shows is that in 2015, virtually every single request that went to the national security court was rubber stamped. 1457 from the bureau and the justice department. only one was withdrawn. 1,457. >> dana: was that because of pro forma, it's like, they know what they have to do to meet the bar? >> we don't know what is inside the docket that the fbi is putting to the court. but i've spoken with national security defense attorneys who say almost every case they say yes to the justice department and the fbi. it may be a high legal bar but the court always says yes to the government. >> dana: one other thing on paul man i fort today, former campaign chairman who was ousted in late july, august. will be registering retroactively as a foreign agent? >> we were able to get
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confirmation through justice department sources that records have been filed and paul manifort and lobbyists connected to his operation are going to register as foreign agents in light of their work that was very pro-russia. here's the thing in one day, four stories dropping on the subject, sounds to me like democrats may be trying to change the conversation. >> dana: thank you, catherine. plenty more ahead as "the factor" moves along, big-time hillary clinton aid says the press is tougher on democrats than republicans. what? we'll debate it. later, the man who was dragged off the united airlines flight has lawyered up. we saw that coming. hope you stay tuned for those reports. y tuned for those report
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>> dana: unresolved subject, media bias? the democratic party big shot, communications director for
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hillary clinton's 2016 campaign made a stunning claim during a round table discussion about the press and the presidency. >> i think most journalists are probably leaning more to the left than the right. what i found is it means they come after us harder on what i describe as the crap. they come after us harder on the palace intrigue, on the process, on things that really shouldn't matter. >> dana: joining us now with reaction from irvine, california, republican an strategist eric beach and from houston democratic strategist mustafa. you agree with the statement today and during the campaign liberal journalists expected more of hillary clinton than they did of donald trump. can you give me an example? . well, look, i don't think most people expected donald trump to win and i give that you. they didn't give him the scrutiny. now he find out his campaign manager is registering as a foreign agent for russia,
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national security advisor was a registered foreign agent for turkey and took money from russian television. there is a lot more scrutiny that should have been given to donald trump. but of one focused on the e-mail scandal that went nowhere. that's an example of why the press went after hillary kwlin ton far more than donald trump. now that we're faced with this crazy administration in that seasons. >> dana: all right, well, crazy, um, eric the last "wall street journal" poll showed 51% of americans think that the press is too hard on president trump. when you look at this statement from palmieri, did it raise your eyebrows? >> i thought it was unfortunate. here are the facts. 96% of the campaign contributions from the media went to hillary clinton. there was an enthere, not just because they favor her over donald trump. they wanted to shake the narrative of the campaign and distribute that to the public. the facts are, that you look at last week for example, you look
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at judge gorsuch confirmed, the numerous regulations of that been rolled back, the palace intrigue comes from the media and there's been, that's been demonstrated time and time again against donald trump. >> that is just -- >> dana: go ahead. >> look, the campaign manager for donald trump is now retroactively registering for russia. i mean, this is outrageous. >> dana: as a foreign agent which is allowed. you're allowed to work as a foreign agency, you just to have register. which he's doing now. >> and russia have hacked into our system, played an integral role of leaking out information, and you're telling me that that's not national security advisor got paid from russian television? >> dana: let me ask eric something. >> this is the scandal that has to be covered more. >> dana: okay, eric, let me ask you about that. democrats believe that susan rice, the former national security advisor for donald -- for president obama is not
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getting enough scrutiny for her role in unmasking. though she says she did nothing wrong. and there should be more attention, democrats saying, there should be more attention about michael flynn and paul manifort and carter page. the conservative media is certainly able to go after susan rice. but what about these other things? >> well, i mean, i hope miss rice continues to go on media all day long. the facts are this. during the obama administration, he had numerous drone strikes, ten times more than his predecessor. he had 275 executive orders. they were covered as an act of trying to go against a republican opposition. against donald trump they're covered as almost a form of dictatorship. a double standard in the mead yeas really unfair. you have to look at the numbers, the contributors from the media, where they go and the facts are that the media has been overreaching completely for the
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last 80 days since donald trump has been inaugurated, it's unfortunate. >> dana: let me ask mustafaa one last question, you can both comment on it. it was the "new york times" that broke two major stories, one about clinton's private e-mail server and the clinton global initiative that set off bad press. i see if you're a democrat you think the media is against us, as much as they are against conservatives. what do you think? >> well, look, i do think that when you serve in the bush administration, you felt like the media probably was harder on you than the prior administration. >> dana: absolutely. >> every administration feels that the prior administration got a free pass and they aren't getting one. that's the nature of the business. but, in reality, if you look at the number of stories that were covered on the e-mail scandal that went into where, that derailed hillary clinton's campaign, and what the right says about the left journalists, the left journalists were
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bringing out the stories. media bias is a little overblown. we are sitting on the number one cable show right now, and talking media bias. >> dana: we are, indeed. >> dana: last point, eric. >> the only people that don't complain about media bias are the democrats. mustafaa couldn't name one time that president obama was hurt by the media. >> dana: well, i think that we -- >> come on. >> dana: we didn't give him time, we could have come up with something. thank you. the trump administration doubling down on its hard line campaign promises on immigration, we will tell you about it directly ahead. their day to try a new feature from match. so sara, what did you do today? i grabbed a coffee... yes, you have to do that.. and then i checked out a new art exhibit. so now, you have the match app up open up the missed connections tab for me. okay. it shows you people you've crossed paths with in real life. oo, i crossed paths with josh near pine street. maybe he was at the gallery? maybe he loves art? imagine what else you have in common. he's cute. i'd like to find out! i'm on the edge of my seat.
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bill o'reilly. tough language from jeff sessions on the topic of illegal immigration. he traveled to the mexican border yesterday and pulled no punches. >> this is a new era. this is a trump era. the lawlessness, the abdication of duty to enforce our laws, and the catch and release policies of the past are over. pursuant to the president's executive order, we will now be detaining all adults who are be a reended at the border. they will not be released. to support this mission we have served 25 immigration judges to detention center is a long the
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border. i want to thank personally the many judges who answered our call to support this initiative. in addition, we will put 50 more immigration judges on the bench this year and 75 next year. >> dana: in an interview that aired this morning on the fox business network president trump reiterated his campaign pledge to build a border wall. >> we have hundreds of about iters, i have seen ten at the top, i want to see more, people aren't trying to get through because they know we can't. we're looking at designs and making a decision shortly. >> dana: joining us from washington, is democratic strategist and former missouri state representative don calloway and president of the latino partnership for conservative principles. alfonso, why do you like this move? >> well, look, we have to enforce the law. and what the trump administration is doing is looking at people who have
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criminal records. in the case of the border we're looking at people who are entering illegally on multiple occasions and i think it makes sense. in terms of fencing we have to extend the fencing. ironically, by putting in place immigration enforcement measures, extending and guaranteeing border security we will be an environment where we can get immigration reform. donald trump recently said that we have to make sense between democrats and republicans to achieve immigration reform. the focus is not about mass deportations. a lot of people are trying to scare latinos. this is removing bad people with criminal records. >> dana: even though the administration continues to try to emphasis illegal immigration, i want to ask you about your experience, you said you think that this move would be unconstitutional. >> absolutely unconstitutional. let's look at this. we're not talking about canadian immigrants from the northern
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borders or immigrants from africa, the caribbean, this is a decision made to target latin america immigration at the southern border that. 's the fundamental basis of the probable unconstitutionality. latin american immigrants specifically targeted by i.c.e. agents and enforced at the border in a way we won't see happening from immigrants from anywhere else in the world. and as a fundamental denial of the equal protection clause which applies to not only united states citizens, but all living within our borders. the predictable disparity and enforcement from the trump administration. the only question not when it will be invalidated, but will it happen on the front end of the preemptiveness, a tro, or happen on the backend when plaintiffs advocates and immigration action file suit. >> dana: you think that's wrong, why? >> look, no constitutional right
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is absolute. there is much more traffic, of illegal immigrants, through the southern border than the northern border. obviously there's an interest to detain people and ensure that we don't release them. under the bush years we ended the practice of catch and release. every time we released an undocumented immigrant and asked them to show up for the hearing they wouldn't show up. we're re-establishing that. under the owe bam administration, under his priorities, anyone who arrived illegally after 2014, had to be removed as well. even if they didn't have criminal records. they were just not doing the job. i feel we have to do this, this is enforcing the law, prioritizing going after individuals with criminal records, so that we can get into a position that we can bring people out of the shadows who have criminal records. >> dana: don, are you somewhat supportive, though, that president trump has not rescinded the executive order
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about the dreamers, and would you be willing to sort of meet him half way, if president trump says he wants to do consensus immigration reform would you be willing to work that out? >> i would love to see immigration reform. but the reality of the matter in d.c. is the same as it was a year ago. the house freedom caucus isn't in a position that it's about to allow immigration restorm. -- reform. the senate came to consensus on immigration reform. but nothing in the trump administration has even showed it supports the rubio and other republican -- >> that's not true. >> i want to go back to what you said, mr. aguilar, all constitutional rights not being absolute. the problem here is the predictable, digs par at enforcement from this policy. if you are an imgrag grant and not from a latin american country you care about this crackdown about as much as a fish cares about an umbrella, you don't. this is specifically targeted against latin american immigrants. >> wrong.
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the majority of illegal immigrants are from latin america. >> if you are honest about this, we can't be constitutionally singling out one group of immigrants. we will see -- >> the majority of undocumented immigrants -- >> dana: let me give alfonso the last word. >> i am hopeful, i think both parties have to find a way to achieve a consensus. donald trump has not rescinded daca, he has said he wants to find a solution, legislative came here illegally --eamers, >> dana: no fault of their own. >> as minors. and he said that he thinks democrats and republicans need to work together that. 's a positive sign. what we're hearing from democrats -- >> dana: well, maybe we can get together again and work it out. >> this is going to go the way of the travel ban. it will be deemed unconstitutional. >> dana: we'll see. we'll bring you back in that's so. the latest contributing podcast, how the pacific northwest has become the epicenter of president trump's emgrags
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policies, well worth a listen on billowe or itunes two. of his schools are on the best seller list of the "new york times." bet either one for free if you become a billo' premiere member. the man dragged off the united airlines flight, geraldo rivera here.
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segment, as you may have heard, united airlines is under fire for forcibly removing passenger david dao on sunday night. united ceo issued another apology this morning. >> it's not so much what i
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thought it's what i felt. probably the word ashamed comes to mind. as i think about our business and our people, the first thing i think is important to say, po apologize to dr. dao, his family, passengers on that flight, our customers, our employees. that is not who our family at united is much and you saw a bad moment. and this can never, will never happen again. >> dana: late today unite aid announced it would reimburse all the passengers on that flight for the cost of their ticket. mr. dao hired some lawyers. today they made their first legal filing asking a court to force united to preserve surveillance video related to the flight. joining me to discuss is geraldo rivera, correspondent at large. is this a case that ever gets to trial? . delighted to be here. i doubt it gets to trial. number one, united understands
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how shameful, outrageous, how criminal their conduct is. >> dana: criminal? >> i think when you look at the officer removing dr. dao from his seat, to me that's an assault. why do i say that? because this wasn't a hijacking. this wasn't -- nobody was in peril of any danger from this man. he was yanking, pulling, then they dragged him, his face got smashed, his lips are bleeding. why, what happened here? to me, the danger is that by repetition this action will come to seem less egregious than it really is. this to me is an airline run amok, gone mad, with their greed to fill every seat. allows them to violate every concept, every precept of entrepreneurial activity. they usually the customer is always right. here a paying customer got his boarding pass, was seated in his
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seat, along with his spouse, going to, you know, be in a hospital in louisville, kentucky the next morning, had to be with his patients. and is told to give up his seat because a united employee had to get to louisville. that's the convenience of the company. for them to do this to this man, they deserve the $250 million hit this stock took today. >> dana: i was surprised, it's a four-hour drive from chicago to louisville. if united really needed its employees to be there in the morning why didn't they get him a car? >> excellent point. it's almost a four-hour walk in the o'hair airport from one terminal to the next. >> dana: some think the market will solve this, as you mention the stock price takes a hit, people not flying on united a problem for people that live in smaller cities, like -- well denver is bigger now, but a city like louisville doesn't have a lot of choice in air travel. it's not like every air carrier is flying there.
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i don't know if the market can solve it all. >> i think what has to happen now is really severe punitive action. united has to be punished. when he talked about the reimbursement of every passenger on the plane, the danger is the audience will say, oh, how generous. that is peanuts compared to what united ultimately will have to pay for this action that was so outrageous, that it defies explanation. with all due respect to the ceo, munoz, for him to side with his employees initially, and then gradually tepidly get to the place where he should have begun i am ashamed of what we did, this never should have happened, my god, forgive us, what can we do to fix this. he tried to stick it to the guy. then leaking the rumor of his background. >> dana: when i world for
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burson, he wrote a book, that said the best answer is always to do the right thing the first time. then you avoid a lot of problems. >> right. look at shawn spicer on the whole, the hitler didn't use poise an gas. sean spicer ended in the right place. it took a while to get there. >> dana: pretty quick, though, this took four days. sean did it in four hours. >> i don't want anybody fired but i want everyone to know that united will pay. the settlement will be in the millions for dr. dao. >> dana: and happen fast. >> everything will be in the deep tense of millions plus the stock price. united plays greatly. >> dana: thank you. the florida sheriff that put out a highly controversial message to drug dealers and some folks are upset about it. did the sheriff go too far? we'll debate it. we'll be right
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>> dana: in the back of the book segment tonight, tough talk from a florida sheriff. the lake county florida
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sheriff's department putting unique video on its facebook page. >> i've had several phone calls from citizens in this county concerned about the number of overdoses related to heroin. to the dealers i say enjoy looking over your shoulder constantly wondering if today is the day. we come for you. enjoy trying to sleep tonight wondering if tonight is the night, our s.w.a.t. team blows your front door off the hinges, we are coming for you. if our agents can show the nexuf between you the push the poison, and the person that overdoses and dies, we will charge youu with murder. we are coming for you, run. >> dana: while the video has some pro-law enforcement people cheering it's also been criticized for being over-the-top. some critics compared to isis propaganda, joining us with reaction from miami a former. circuit court judge, and a nonprofit group that advocates
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for lowering the number of drug arrests. what's your take on this video? >> believe me dana, i understand the frustration, i've been there. i understand, i didn't wear the mask like those of four guys in the shot with the sheriff but i worked undercover, i commanded nine drug task forces at one time in the state of maryland and i had that frustration. eventually i learned that's not the way to do it. after 50 years of this i would hope that we've learned something by now, this tough on crime approach as it relates to drugs is not the way to go. we're going to continue to push people into the fringes, people who are addicted to.he many of whom are addicted and selling to finance their addictions and supply of drugs to others. we need to do what other countries are doing and make this a 100% health approach like in portugal where they have experienced a 52% reduction in overdose deaths.
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>> dana: that might be worth debating another time, nancy reagan's program worked for me this is your brain oneb drugs, the egg is frying in the pan. that worked for me, does a video like this have impact on people that you see in a courtroom? >> i don't think it does, i think it what it said impact on the is this sheriff is an elected official, they had theit heroin deaths quadruple in one year. heroin dealers are the lowermost form of life in america, theyea don't mind the fact that thousands and thousands of theia customers are dying. as long as they can make enough money to go clubbing that night on the sale of heroin, here's a sheriff who got elected on a tough on crime platform and telling heroin dealers you know what?
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we're coming after you. he says in the video, we've done drug buys with undercoveruy agents and we are just waiting on the warrants were going to come get you. if this message causes heroinn dealers in his county to pick up and leave his county, he's done his job. his job is to protect the citizens of lake county. the fact that it's a tough video the fact that it might intimidate heroin dealers, i don't lose much sleep over their concerns, the heroin dealers concerns. the fact that some of the officers are wearing masks, d frankly most of the officers and narcotics details do undercover work, when they're in public, they wear masks so they don't get burned. >> dana: comparison to a isis does make any sense to last night tucker carlson on his program talked about the opium epidemic in heroin addiction. if you're a mom or dad who has lost a child to heroin overdoses if you saw the video like that i think you might feel like at least somebody is trying to do something, right?
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>> it may seem that way but i have spoken to a lot of parents and brothers and sisters. who have lost loved ones to heroin overdoses. when they understand the situation, when they understand how easy it is to push people into the fringes -- we have people dying because they are in isolation. this type of approach just pushes people further and further into isolation an end that's where the experience and these overdose deaths. most of the people who are out there selling aren't these major drug dealers, these are people trying to manage their addictions. are these people the worst?le the scum of the earth? not in my opinion, these are people suffering from an illness who need medical attention. >> dana: thank you so much, that is it for us tonight, thanks for watching us, i'm
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dana perino in for the vacationing bill o'reilly and please remember the spin stops here because we are looking out for you.ut ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight" despite donald trump being an alleged russian puppets, the american tensions with russia keep rising. a russian official said relations are at the lowest point since the cold war. he set aside his old skepticism towards nato. secretary of state rex tillerson and had an unproductive meeting with vladimir putin in moscow. >> right now we're not getting along with russia at all. if we may be at an all-time low in terms of relationship with russia. >> we need to put an end to this steady degradation which is not doing nothing to restore the trust betw


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