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howie: some pundits blaming the president's situation or the delay on tax reform. we don't know which of these provisions will mean how many millions to donald trump personally. >> how can he do tax reform when he can't admit whether he pays taxes, if he does. howie: are these media forecasts a bit premature. a social media giant avoid being hijacked by criminals? how will the departure of bill o'reilly affect the network. we'll talk to his replacement tucker carlson. this is "mediabuzz."
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the media shifting into the first 100 days mode. the debate is taking shape on who is responsible for this journalistic ritual. >> what is the obsession with getting things done in the first 100 days. where does that come from? >> the white house. howie: is that true? this coming from the *. no matter how much i accomplish the first 100 days, media will kill. joining me, gillian turner, katie pavlich and mo eileithee. the white house seems to be fully engaged holding meetings
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on branding the first 100 days. is it just the media being ridiculous? >> the president said he wants to run the federal government like a business. during the first month of president trump's administration reporters were complaining about him doing too much. it was a neck breaking pace. there was too much to cover and the reporters were exhausted. here we are approaching the first 100 days and he apparently hasn't done enough. he either hasn't done enough or he needs to do more. howie: it goes back to fdr's days and it has become a ritual. whether the white house officials participate or not, the media will have all these stories and web postings. >> it's not a new benchmark. with two round numbers it makes
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sense from a rhetorical point of view. what we are seeing in terms of the media is what i would call the weaponization of the first 100 days. the media has sharpened hair knives to use this -- sharpened their knives to use this benchmark against the president. howie: the president did talk about a 100-day action plan. what do you think about the media weaponizing this benchmark? >> everybody weaponizes everything. it's the age we live in. but i think the 100-day benchmark is a ridiculous one. when donald trump put out a 100-day contract with the voters? he put out a target on his own back.
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he said if i don't do everything on here, i'm open to criticism. if you look at that contract he made some moves on a lot of them, but fell short on a lot. he's trying to give himself a little bit of cover. howie: let the record show mo agreed with president trump on a ridiculous charge. >> that goes to the point of politics on the campaign trail during a heated campaign and trying to get people to vote based on promises and governance. howie: "washington post" putting a bold stamp on the white house. he says obama was instantly comfortable and boldness under pressure. a difference in tone there? >> certainly a difference in tone.
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the "new york times" is full of op-eds about the disastrous 100 days, saying the trump administration is prosecuting minorities. in washington, d.c. it's interesting to see what the definition of success is. republicans and democrats fall into the trap to say we passed something so we can say something has gone to the president's desk. the system was set up for gridlock so which the time something got to the president's desk it was fully debated. there is a lot the white house has done outside of congress that is a success whether it's keystone or neil gorsuch, there is a list of things that could be considered successful. howie: gillian, you worked for barack obama as well as george w. bush. how would you compare obama to
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president trump. >> president obama had the honeymoon period. part of that overlaps with the first 100 days. if i was going to break it down measure by measure. the first 100 days is the honeymoon day. howie: president trump got zero honeymoon. >> he didn't even get a week of a honeymoon period. howie: is there a benefit of the doubt? >> within hours of his taking the oath of office the president was out there in a full-flown war with the media. a lot of it was instigated by him. every single day since then he has gone after the media. so you say the media come up and say we are going to fact check
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this guy more aggressively. howie: he will say he was responding to unfair coverage and he needs to push back. he did it successfully during the campaign. >> the president says something untrue, the media says that's not right, and he says, fake news. we are entering a vicious spiral. but at the end of the day the press has a job to do to call balls and strikes. when he's throwing balls they will call him on it. >> this idea that reporters are calling balls and strikes in this white house or that they call balls and strikes in the obama administration is preposterous. the point is they are overwhelmingly bias. they were softer upon obama than
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they are on trump and they pushed stories and narratives on the first 100 days with trump they didn't with obama. how * liberal commentators saying over and over again tax reform can't happen because donald trump won't release his taxes. they tie that to the progress or lack thereof on tax reform. >> the majority of americans think president trump should release his tax returns for the sake of transparency. but to link it to tax-free form is ridiculous. they are separate from each other. to say the only reason he would do tax reform is to benefit himself personally. he's doing it because he wants the economy to grow at 6%, 7%. howie: the "new york times" headlines.
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trump's tax returns threaten another campaign promise, tax reform. >> i agrow he needs to release his taxes. i don't think what he's going to do is driven exclusively. but i think the american people ought to know if their president is going to benefit from this office. but the second issue is the reason tax reform isn't happening right now is because republicans can't agree on tax reform. you have republicans on the hill saying this will be harder than healthcare reform. he hasn't been able to bring his own people together. howie: one of the hardest things to do in washington because of special interests. president trump announcing a rally in pennsylvania next saturday night which happens to be the night of the white house correspondent dinner which he is not attending. sticking it to the press?
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>> i think so. and he's taking control of the narrative. he was able to do that with much more success in terms of helping to control or rein in the media narrative during the cam panel. part of his press team of and their whole m.o. is let's reminds people of how great that was. let temperatures why he keeps doing these rally events that are completely unnecessary at this point in time. howie: i thought this would happen, something to take the attention away. they will just have to get over it. media -- "mediabuzz" at a the "new york times" asks whether president obama will
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howie: president trump having bombed syria, and isis in afghanistan, a "new york times" news story posed this question, will the talk himself into a war. when the times says critics say, is the underlying message this is potentially a dangerous commander-in-chief? gillian: yes. and the underlying message is this is a president who will sacrifice national security for politics. howie: is that fair given what he has done on the foreign policy and military front so far. gillian: i don't think based on
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his record during the first 100 days that is not fair. he has not done the reckless military operations some in the media feared. you also have to look at the coverage of the media. it's a little bit hypocritical. all the average about having him be this president who wants to take the counsel of the military. listen to his generals. these are all people who are going to serve as a moderating voice and dissuade him from preemptive military strikes. howie: you have nikki haley and rex tillerson talking tougher on russia than the president does. when the president says risk of war. isn't there also a risk of inaction? katie: they act like we are not at war already, they act like we are not under daily terrorist threats.
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they act like the iranians haven't been active. it's north korea who is saying they are going to shoot off a missile every week just to be provocative, this is the to south korea and the united states. it's unfair and it's also inaccurate when it comes to the status of the world today. we are at war in a lot of these places. it may not be a traditional sense. but we have a daily threat of terrorism here at home. howie: ironically the press portrayed hillary clinton as a moderate candidate who would not draw the u.s. into foreign interventions. but the jury is out. mo: i think that's one of the things that gives people unease. we just don't know what is
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guiding him when it comes to national security and foreign policy. the military strikes in syria, a lot of people felt like that was something that needed to happen. a lot of people are wondering what's next. syria was launching military strikes from the same airfield the next day. we don't know what guides him in a lot of this stuff. look how he has been talking about china. want to go call it a currency manipulator. then he says after talking to the president for 10 minutes id. howie: he needs help with north korea, and this is diplomacy. north korea came up. the president's tough talk with north korea making if nuclear threats could be portrayed as risky.
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but the media with just a constant drum roll whether that escalates tensions or gives kim jong-un a platform to make his threats against the u.s. gillian: to turn on the television during those 24 to 48 hours you would think we were on the brink of a nuclear holocaust. the media was fear mongering. people loss perspective. this is nothing new. the handling of their missile program, this is something that has been simmering and boiling for the last three years and the media has not been there covering this the way they should have and this comes as a surprise to people who aren't paying attention. katie: if you look at way they portray the north korean regime as if they could hit the united states tomorrow. that's not the case. i think they are playing this up in an effort to make the
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president look like he's unhinged and incapable of handling the situation. howie: every president had difficulty with north korea, they tried diplomacy and it's tough to deal with this regime. thanks very much for stopping by this sunday. ahead. why facebook has a black eye over the posting of that horrible murder video. did you get tired of hearing about the special election in georgia?
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howie: we were deluged over the fate of a house seat in georgia. >> we begin with a special election going on right now in
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georgia it's seen as a huge test for president trump and the republican party. >> voters in georgia, six congressional districts head to the polls to cast their vote on a special election that's become a refer even duffel on donald trump. howie: jon ossoff captured just under 50% of the vote. >> i don't think this any way to view the 48% he got as anything but a referendum on trump. >> the democrats failed to start that anti-trump revolution they wanted. >> it wasn't an all-out win for ossoff. >> barely meeting that 50% margin in this suburban
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republican district the trump brand isn't selling. in how require wasn't a referendum on trump. was trump a factor? of course. but a special election involving local personalities is just that. onalways some of got 92,000 votes and doughn't even live in the district. -- the next special election is the crucial battle for a house seat in montana. next, fox news cuts its ties with bill o'reilly. we'll look at the impact on the network.
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"new york times" and the "washington post." the ouster of the most prominent and dominant host in cable news. >> we begin tonight with the bombshell announcement from fox news that their biggest stairs out. >> bill o'reilly who has dominated cable news ratings for years is out tonight. >> while bill o'reilly was enjoying an audience with the pope, fox fired the man with the biggest audience in cable television. howie: fox cutting ties with bill o'reilly in the wake of sexual harassment. o'reilly said in a statement it's tremendously disheartening that we part ways due to unfounded claims. that's the unfortunate reality many of us in the public eye must live with today. joining me, susan ferrechio and
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joe concha. joe, it was hard to imagine fox news would cut ties with bill o'reilly even though he dominated cable news ratings for 15 years. joe: when 50 i advertisers leave and it looks like they are not coming back because media matters would shame those companies out of existence. fox had little choice. you saw them going after beck a few years ago. advertisers fled and the show goes bye-bye. one point that wasn't explored is the fact that foxconn deducted an internal investigation conducted by taken outside firm in the name transparency. we have seenter media organizations do internal investigations and not allow outside investigations.
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the investigation were swift and the resignations were even swifter. howie: you had the combination of that "new york times" report talking about $13 million in settlements. some paid by him and some paid by fox. advertisers fleeing. susan: he's ridden it aqueue sayings like this in the past, bill o'reilly has. and he's the number one rated cable show. he could have survived this without the concertedder of these outside -- without the concerted efforts of these outside groups and social media. the combination of that i think is what made this much more untenable than it was when he was first accused of this kind of thing. howie: sexual harassment has
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been a hot button news. susan: and we have the exit of roger alwayroger ails. howie: there is no question fox news and bill o'reilly parting ways is a big story. but the next day, the lead story in the "washington post," here you have the "new york times," two stories up here and a picture of o'reilly meeting with the pope at the vatican. is there something about the way fox is covered that magnified this event even further? joe: i'm willing to bet if bill o'reilly was a cnn or msnbc host
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they wouldn't have covered it. the exercise in media outlets play together media bubble instead of the public interest. a mass shooting in fresno where a guy -- racially motivated -- start firing at people and four people dead. or a terror attack in paris. those didn't get 1/10 the coverage bill o'reilly got. howie: going back to roger ailes who was a force in politic and republican politics. that was part of the appeal of the story. i believe the murdoch family has been trying to change the culture at this company. some of o'reilly's allegations a
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decade old. tucker carlson, "the five," but doesn't o'reilly leave a hole? susan: there is a deep bench of talent. when megyn kelly left the ratings improved. my friend greta left for msnbc and they survived her departure. and the departure of roger ailes. people thought fox would collapse if he left. so far things are going pretty well. bill o'reilly and roger ailes created the ratings empire that fox has become that's quite durable and it can survive people coming and going. howie: my began kelly left --
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megyn kelly left for nbc, maybe if she stayed her ratings would be entire. joe: roger ailes out. greta, bill o'reilly, no longer here. what that tells me is when you look at the ratings, for the last 15 weeks fox has been number one not only over its cable competition, but all newcomers. that shows there is an exceptional brand of news. it avalanches an op-ed and conservative side other networks won't go near. that shows me, i said it once and i'll say it again, it doesn't rebuild, it simply reloads. i think fox can survive this, but this will be their biggest challenge yet. howie: fox news has a loyal
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audience that doesn't trust the mainstream media. susan: "the five" is very popular. moving to the 6:00 p.m. slot is not risky. the pattern has been people will stick to fox news as long as fox sticks to what it's doing. as the liberal activists try to target conservative voices, i think the hosts can be interchangeable. howie: i'll take exception to that with my own point of view. joe concha, susan ferrechio, anti-trump stories? earning your cash back shouldn't be this complicated.
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howie:ed the tucker carlson show moves to 8:00 p.m. after bill o'reilly's departure. tucker carlson, welcome. during the campaign most journalists had a dim view of donald trump. do you think that the media's view has changed much? tucker: i don't.
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i would say before he received the nomination, a lot of reporters like donald trump found him amusing. he seemed less threatening. but the second he got nomination, they piled on. and i think they remained in that posture except when he threw hose cruise missiles at syria. liberals like war. howie: check your twitter. tucker: they do. howie: now that the initial glow has faded. the president is criticizing trump on foreign policy. tucker: but not on russia. remember, he subverted our democracy. howie: he? tucker: trump. he's going to be impeached. as soon as the missile strike took place they dropped the narrative.
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howie: do you think there are rewards within the media culture scoffing at trump? tucker: i think the press ought to have an aggressive posture toward anyone in power. but in this case they live in a world where not a single person they know voted for trump. they have nothing in common with anyone who voted for trump and they despise them. but they are still for pointless foreign wars. howie: did you interview him in terms of his ability to articulate policy? tucker: no, i have known him for almost 20 years. i interviewed a lot of people before and after abecame president. and there is a huge change in the way they seem in person. howie: i had the same reaction. let's talk about your show.
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why can't you hold on to a time slot? now that you will be the 8:00 anchor kicking off prime time. do you envision any adjustments or will you be oriented towards the days top stories? tucker: we have been pretty on the news at 9:00. i think people will want to know what happened and how to understand it, and i think the primary way we explain that is by talking to people who disagree and debate, respectful debates, but tough debates. it can get intense. but hopefully always respectful. we'll continue doing that. we'll tweak the show in the coming months and years. but for now i don't think we'll make radical changes. howie: you bounced around msnbc and cnn before coming to fox. your new real estate reflects a
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turnaround for a pundit whose bow tie is behind him. tucker: i'm not especially self-aware. i don't read one word about myself ever. i don't want to become self-conscious. i want to be a happy person. i have children. i care what the people who love me think and the people i love. but there are a tons of ups and downs. a lot of them are not your doing. some of them are. i'm grateful to have this. it's a great time slot it's one i have been watching for a long time. i'm glad to be here. howie: the new yorker gave you some high praise. he has aimed his scepticism at the current administration.
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donald trump watches fox. he said nice things about fox. is it important to you to be sceptical towards this president? tucker: i'm sceptical towards everyone all the time with the possible exception of my wife. scepticism is the heart of journalism. it doesn't mean working out an agenda. it means not taking things as face value from people in power. the press is tee easy on the people they agree with and accept uncritically cliche's and mindlessness. breakfast is the most important meal of the day? really? everyone says that. howie: there are fervent trump fans who don't like any criticism of the president. tucker: i think people who voted
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for donald trump want to see him succeed. they voted for the things he promised and for what he wasn't which is part of the group ruining the country. no one i met who voted for trump thinks it's out of bounds to ask honest questions ever. this country was run by small group of people who didn't want to be questioned about what they were doing and would attack you if you did ask them what they were doing. i ask honest, direct, non-hostile questions. i think people like it. howie: we'll be watching. great to see you. after that chilling murder posted on facebook, can mark zuckerberg stop his platform
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howie: a manhunt in cleveland for steve stephens who used facebook to post the video of a a -- of a 74-year-old man. >> we have a lot more to do. we were remind of that this week by the tragedy in cleveland. our hearts go out to the family and friends of robert go godwin. howie: it took two hours for facebook to take down that murder video. did facebook blow it? >> not really.
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only 23 minutes after this is reported to facebook they disabled stephens account and the video were gone. i would say that's fairly quick. how require's a big sea of stuff for facebook to police but it's not first time happened. shana: this isn't the first time we have seen videos upload on facebook live. some then streamed live video of a young boy being tortured for 30 minutes. recently a gang rape was on. so awful videos being posted live and uploaded to facebook. howie: you have hundreds of thousands of people look at this stuff. shana: i argue there is a lot of responsibility facebook users bear here.
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they are part of the problem. this video was downloaded and spread all over the internet before facebook was able to remove it. no one reported it for an hour and 45 minutes. howie: if people are sharing this stuff which is against facebook rules, should they be penalized? shana: i think they should be kicked off of facebook. howie: what it's willing to tolerate. some of this in the cleveland case is actually broadcast live on what's called facebook live which is a year old. anybody can broadcast anything if you have got a phone and a camera. does that raise questions about facebook live being subject to this kind of twisted abuse. shana: yes, it does. it shows facebook didn't follow
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the path all the way to the end on what could happen on its platform when they launch video and facebook live. hopefully in the future they will think about the past and how it can be used. howie: would you agree this is by any stretch of the imagination a major p.r. headache. the cleveland guy was called the facebook killer in headlines. shana: yes, it's a giant headache for facebook. howie: what could facebook do differently and not just wait for people to report. shana: they can tune up the reporting stream to make it faster. and they have to look at artificial intelligence to distinguish violence and from
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protests that are for the greater good. howie: shana glenn zer, great to see you. the embarrassing truth involving the patriots visit to
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[♪] howie: sunday's "new york times" carried an op ed attacking israel's occupation and humiliating measures to prisoners. the shocking reality left out of the op ed is he's serving five consecutive life sentences for murder stemming from his role in terrorist attacks. he mentioned his prison term but
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not what he was convicted of. the article failed to provide sufficient context. the man is a cold-blood terrorist. i don't see why the times gave him a platform at all. the african-american post pulled the piece arguing the to deny white men a franchise. the author claimed to be a student but who according to the website cannot be traced and appears not to exist. the scam was perpetrated by yet a white male. marius root quit his job and said he's sorry. after the new england patriots went to the white house the "new york times" tweeted out a shot of the visit and contrasted it when they went to the obama
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white house. when president trump tweeted the "times" just got caught in a big lie. he's right. while fewer patriots players showed up, the total contingent was just about the side. but obama had them on the stairs but trump had them seated out of camera range. jason said bad tweet by me. i'm an idiot. it was my idea, my execution, my blunder. standing owe straition. i'm howard curt. thanks for watching. we hope you like our facebook page. check it out. give us a like. continue the conversation on
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twitter at howard kurtz. how us know what you think of the show. we'll see you back here next eric: spend time with us. have a nice week. take care.. >> fox news alert, first it was brexit. then the election of president trump. now france is facing its own surge of populism, one that could affect all of europe. for the first time in modern history, france shunning major political party, and sending two outsider candidates into a presidential runoff. the choice is two opposites, far right candidate marie le pen and centrist emmanuel macron. le pen wants to leave the european union like the british did. a frexit, if you will, while


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