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>> tomorrow on "fox & friends" we have house speaker paul ryan. >> in the house find out how to adopt all of these beautiful dogs and some of the people. >> a great promotion coming your way. >> bill: good morning. republicans in the house did something many did not think was possible and now it is onto the next phase while lawmakers feel a bit of heat back home over healthcare. they are flooding some town halls as the high stakes showdown over replacing obamacare faces the next test in the senate. hope you had a great weekend. good morning. welcome to "america's newsroom." >> shannon: i'm shannon bream. the white house says something needs to be done to counter the obamacare death spiral. a new report from the "wall street journal" shows insurers may be ready to drop coverage all together in parts of iowa
and tennessee and despite premiums in virginia and maryland. reince priebus says republicans will eventually be rewarded. >> sometimes to do what's right not politically expedient. by the time the people see better service, premiums lower, more options and more choices they'll reward the republicans that said we won't see the obamacare system which is failing and collapsing continue any longer. we'll do something better. >> bill: kevin corke leads our coverage of the white house. good morning to you. what does the white house think will ultimately reach the president's desk? >> there is cautious optimism but a lot of pragmatism. they understand there is little chance of what the house was able to push over the finish line what the white house would describe as a triumphant friday
will resemble what they get to his desk. talking about the eye do that obamacare is failing and now is the time to do something. republican senators will not let the american people down. obamacare premiums and deductibless are way up. it was a lie and it is dead. what's the guy responsible for crunching the numbers think about what? here is mulvaney. >> one of the promises is we're seeing the healthcare we're providing will be sustainable and be there. the fact that obamacare is already failing in places like iowa and virginia find out this week they won't have coverage in some places. one of the big pushes that we're making is we're going to provide a system that is sustainable and can survive and provide healthcare. >> failing but we'll come up with something better is the message you'll continue to hear. not just the white house but capitol hill. >> bill: is the white house
ready for political brawling in the days ahead? >> a lot of political brawling in the days, weeks and perhaps months ahead. listening to hear paul ryan echoing what we've heard the white house say before. it's failing and the fight is on to fix it. >> the system is failing. we're rescuing people from a collapsing system and keeping our word. that's really important here, george. people expect their elected leaders if they run and campaign on doing something, they expect them to do that. we're keeping our word. >> keeping their word. the president has a busy slate, meeting with vice president mike pence and the national security advisor general h.r. mcmaster. not public meetings but we expect we'll get a read on how they've gone and the briefing later today as well. >> bill: a nice spring day for a change at the white house. thank you, kevin. nice to see you.
>> shannon: sharing the spotlight on capitol hill with healthcare a potentially blockbuster hearing on russia. former acting attorney general sally yates set to testify before a senate panel before russia's meddling in the election. what are we expecting to hear today from sally yates? >> the focus is on the critical six week period leading up to the resignation of mike flynn. much of what we know today is largely based on anonymous sourcing. the first time we have a principal player speaking about that on the record. at the end of last year national security advisor mike flynn had a series of phone calls with the russian ambassador and those phone calls escalated up until december 29th. december 29th is the critical date because that's when the
obama white house imposed sanctions on russia for meddling in the election. fast forward to january and in the middle of that month vice president mike pence indicated flynn had not talked about the sanctions with the russian ambassador during the phone call and then at the end of january yates informed the white house there was a serious problem, a discrepancy between what the white house was saying publicly based on transcripts between flynn and the russian ambassador and three weeks later flynn resigned having lost the confidence of the white house. those who support mike flynn say that he was not doing anything out of the ordinary for an incoming administration and he was trying to build the relationship and made no promises to the russians except to say don't dig yourself a deeper hole. we have a new team coming in, shannon.
>> shannon: sally yates getting the attention today but we'll also hear from clapper. >> he is the intelligence officials that overcease all the intelligence agencies. he told "meet the press" in march but the time he left office january 20th he saw no evidence of collusion between russian officials and senior members of the trump administration. the focus really today is going to be on whether he abides or sticks to that conclusion or whether he provides more context and nuance to what he said at that time. >> shannon: catherine herridge live on the hill. >> bill: more analysis now with fox news contributor byron york. what is significant by sally yates' testimony. >> we'll get a little more information about the fighting going on the obama administration and the trump
administration. there were reports that sally yates told the white house that michael flynn could be vulnerable to blackmail, that was the word used by the russians. what was that about? we have had a number of people former national security advisors, have knowledgeable about the job say there was actually nothing wrong with the incoming national security advisor talking to the russian ambassador even if they were talking about sanctions. so the question is, what was it in those conversations and the transcripts and wiretapped conversations that sally yates knew about, what made her warn the white house? >> bill: a few tweets from just this morning. president trump said this. general flynn was given the highest security given by the obama administration but the fake news doesn't like talking about that. that's a point they've been making for a couple of weeks.
ask sally yates under oath if she knows how classified information got into the newspaper soon after she explained it to white house counsel. that's the reference all the leaks that have been happening so far in this administration. where does that go? >> one, the president had tried to put some blame on the obama administration and barack obama did indeed make michael flynn the head of military intelligence, fired him a couple years later over reports of a chaotic management style and as far as the leaks are concerned, clearly the intercepted communications between michael flynn and the russian ambassador were the highest secret level you can get in the u.s. government. and they got out. the fact that the intercept even occurred. there was a transcript and the contents of the transcript. those are big, big leaks. the white house is right to want to know more about that? >> bill: i want to shift to obamacare. now the battle lines have been
drawn. a leading republican conservative in idaho on friday got an earful. we got some video we can roll on that. as we look at that we want to talk about the death spiral because this is what we're starting to hear. in tennessee 16 counties with no exchange insurers next year. iowa put up the screen up. three or four could leave. this is the case republicans are saying for why you need reform and you need to do it now. lost in the argument has been the democrat's suggestions about what they would do to repair the problems in obamacare today. where does that stack up? >> if you remember the 2016 campaign hillary clinton and other democrats conceded there were problems with obamacare and they basically wanted to fix them by pouring millions of more taxpayer dollars into the system. republicans obviously in the house have a problem now. the bill they passed is very
unpopular. we've seen it rating at 17% approval, disastrously bad. but this is just the beginning of this situation. the bill goes to the senate, the senate will make very, very substantial changes in it. what exists now is not going to be what passes in the future if something does pass. so -- then on this whole death spiral thing. the republicans have been predicting the collapse of obamacare for quite a while. it doesn't look good. you have states like tennessee and iowa with down to one carrier and maybe zero carriers at some point. so the republican what they call the collapse and repeal effect may actually happen in the next few months. >> bill: thank you. more to come on that. we'll see on the senate side and if they get a deal and they'll talk about it. it is a long road ahead.
to predict some political downfall or windfall now could be far too premature. >> shannon: many steps to go. who is to blame for the problems with obamacare? one of the law's chief architects make being this argument. >> before president trump was elected there were no counties in america that didn't have an insurer. since he has been elected. >> you'll blame the problems with obamacare on president trump? >> shannon: how do you blame president trump for president obama's signature law? >> bill: the white house and president dealing with rising tensions in north korea, iran and russia. they haven't disappeared. what advice does condoleezza rice have for the president? more on that in my conversation with the former secretary of state next hour here on "america's newsroom." >> shannon: plus texas taking a stand against sanctuary cities. the governor says also owe common sense, the left says not
so fast. >> i was proud last night to sign this law. this law effectively bans sanctuary cities in the state of texas. isn't that insane that we have to pass a law to force law enforcement officers to comply with the law? last year, he said he was going to dig a hole to china. at&t is working with farmers to improve irrigation techniques. remote moisture sensors use a reliable network to tell them when and where to water. so that farmers like ray can compete in big ways. china. oh ... he got there. that's the power of and.
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sentist emmanuel macron won the election over le pen. getting a shot in the arm to the european union. president trump reacting on twitter congratulations to emmanuel macron on his big win as the next president of france. i look forward to working with him. is the tide turning against the populous forces that have been sweeping the western world? we'll talk about that with with nigel farage who joins us live next hour. >> bill: the white house pointing to more bad news on obamacare including price hikes and insurers leaving markets and saying the senate must act quickly. one of obamacare's chief architects blaming president trump for the healthcare law's current troubles. >> bill: before president trump was elected there were no counties in america that did not have an insurer. since president trump has been elected and massively >> you will blame the problems with obamacare on president trump? >> we had a situation under obamacare there was a one-time
premium increase last year that made up for the fact that insurers massively underpriced in the first two years. the problem was fixed. you have a president who comes in undercuts open enrollment, doesn't honor the obligations this law makes to insurers and as a result premiums are going up and insurers are exiting. >> bill: get a point. katie pavlich and pablo manriquez. we say good morning. katie, this is trump's fault. >> yeah. i know that gruber has made a living out of insulting the intelligence of everyday americans. this just makes it to a whole other level. first of all the reason why counties have the insurance companies leaving is because president obama signed a series of executive orders delaying the implementation of obamacare. second of all, what about the
80 rural hospitals that left counties across the country under barack obama. what about the 6 in 10 doctors who retired early as a result of obamacare? is that all president trump's fault, too? the bottom line is obamacare has been in implementation phases for almost a decade now. the majority of it happening under president obama and now that we have a republican president and republicans in office who by the way beat democrats on a very sufficient level across the country because of obamacare, are trying to clean up the mess. this is all gruber's and obama's fault. >> bill: it's trumps fault, right? >> no, i'm here to blame president trump for trump care which is from a policy percentective dangerous. trump care allows for insurers
to charge you even more than five times more than what you are currently paying. now, overall as mr. york pointed out, this is an extraordinarily unpopular bill polling at 17% right now. we as democrats know what happens when you take a bill that's extraordinarily confusing and can be misleading and try to shove it down the throat of the american people. this is going to be a big problem with republicans in the mid-term. >> bill: let's get to that in a moments. president obama the former president had this to say over the weekend. >> it doesn't take a lot of courage to aid those who are already powerful, already comfortable, already influential. but it does require some courage to champion the vulnerable and the sick and the infirm. >> bill: i don't know how good
your memory is, folks, like your doctor, keep your doctor. like your plan, keep your plan. none of that came to pass for so many. >> obamacare was passed on lies that gruber advocated for. now doctors are retiring early and the markets and the networks that americans used to have have shrunk significantly. president obama talks about courage and wanting people to keep obamacare in place. you know what else takes place is confronting your own narcissism. don't comment on things four months into a new administration. he should take a note from president bush and take a step back. >> bill: i doubt that will happen. >> if he has integrity he will. >> bill: the profile in courage should have been to fix what
was wrong and what's been going wrong. >> i agree with president obama that it does take a lot of courage to defend the poor, sick and most vulnerable in our population and commend fox news on taking so much initiative and attention toward the opioid crisis and tucker carlson has done a tremendous series of reports. trump care again fails in this category. they're proposing a 95% cut to the office of national drug control policy. how are we going to protect these people? how are we are going to solve it? impossible. >> bill: a lot of people did not think the house would repeal this. they have so far. let's see what happens in the senate. pablo, thank you for the kind words. katie, great to see you. happy monday. >> shannon: a big win in the war on terror. we're told special forces took out the leader of isis in afghanistan. we've got details on that daring raid and the future of the fight against that terror
group. >> bill: the travel ban set for a legal showdown in two federal courts. a judge set to decide if it's national security or about religion. the judge andrew napolitano talks about that coming up. my dell small business advisor has gotten to know our business so well that is feels like he's a part of our team. with one phone call, he sets me up with tailored products and services. and when my advisor is focused on my tech, i can focus on my small business. ♪ ♪
>> shannon: major takedown in the fight against isis, the head of the islamic state in afghanistan was killed in a raid by u.s. and afghan forces last month. two american soldiers also killed in that raid. ben collins served three tours of duty in afghanistan. understands it better than most. good to see you this morning. what do we make of this? we're learning in the april 27th raid, this is the long fire fight drawn out. the head of isis in afghanistan months after his predecessor
taken out. there are others waiting in the wings. >> there are. and specifically if you look at the area that isis in afghanistan has taken over it is right up against the border region with pakistan. it's a very porous region. in fact, the originating founder of isis in afghanistan had come in from pakistan. so there are -- there is always somebody ready to step into the leaders' shoes. the more and more we keep decapitating their leadership there will be a time of chaos and confusion. there will be somebody that steps into his shoes pretty quickly if not already >> shannon: they're also fighting taliban forces. we're alied against the taliban and isis. this is a complex stew over there when it comes to u.s. involvement. >> it is. and specifically, though, there is a big difference between, i
think, parts of the taliban. the taliban is a pretty fractured organization now. but there is a difference between afghan taliban and the pakistani taliban and for the most part the afghan taliban their concerns are afghanistan. they want to see all the foreign troops off and want an islamic state there. isis and their branding has tapped into the isis brand of they want to conquer the world in some islamic concept and they have a measure of brutality that is really going against the grain for the civilians. so it's -- i think that their brutality is something that will paint themselves into a corner. we're already seeing the civilian population actually helping us much more in regard to intelligence against isis than they would against the taliban. i think we will eventually be able to get isis out but it will be slow going at a high cost. >> shannon: you talked about
how there are dwindling numbers there. a finite numbers, u.s. estimates are 800 isis fighters in afghanistan, which doesn't sound like a lot but you mention the trouble, the terrain there, the long, hard slog it will be. do you think ultimately the u.s. will and other allies be victorious in cleaning isis completely out of afghanistan? >> afghanistan there might be 800 fighters there but there are probably a couple thousand that are in pakistan. they can keep coming over back and cross and where they get their logistics from, most of their financial support. i do think that they will be victorious. however, we've always had a problem with the porous -- that's how the taliban have been able to reconstitute. they go back into pakistan as well. but it is that brutality. the bottom line if isis holds their validity in this
religious premise. you see them targeting more and more civilians. it will make it difficult for them to hold onto that ability for them to claim what they are doing is fighting the true islamic jihad. certainly the population is tired of seeing that level of violence. we've seen it from al qaeda and the taliban as well. isis has taken it to another level. at the end of the day if there is anything that all the parties that can agree on, you know, from the taliban to russia to china to iran to the u.s. to the afghan government, everybody wants to get rid of isis right away. >> shannon: when the civilians there, those brave folks on the front lines are willing to step in and assist armed forces it makes things a lot difference. ben collins, thank you for your service. >> bill: 29 minutes past the hour now. a brutal double murder. police releasing new details a man accused of murdering two
>> bill: starting today a federal appeals court will be the first to look at president trump's revised travel ban. that will happen today. that order bans foreign nationals from these countries from entering the u.s. for 90 days. james rosin outside the courthouse in richmond, virginia. lay out the arguments. what case will each side make today? >> the arguments that we'll hear today will be familiar to anyone following the story since president trump rolled
out his first version of his executive order on immigration policy one week into his presidency. with that order halted by the courts, however, president trump issued a revised version of it in early march and it, too, has been blocked by federal district judges, this time in maryland and hawaii. the arguments at the appellant level one rung below the supreme court boil down that the president is seeking to enforce a religious ban that targets muslims. the department of justice and others contend the revised order is based on the president's executive authority over immigration policy and his concern for national security. he repeatedly call for a shutdown of muslims entering the united states stays is that islam hates us. he claimed that muslim immigrants represent an extraordinary influx of danger. he was asked if he still planned to implement some form of a muslim band and he said
you know my plans all along. i've proven to be 100% correct. in their reply brief doj lawyers counter plaintiffs argue that two remarks single improper motive. we all know what that means and his pre-inauguration that you know my plans attempting to glean official government purpose from such offhand remarks the department of justice contended requires the type of judicial psycho analysis that previous case law forecloses. 14 judges of this appellate court hear a case together and rarer still that the oral arguments will be submitted live by c span streamed from inside the courtroom. it's called international refugee assistance project versus trump. >> bill: james rosin from richmond. >> shannon: the president has been vocal about this order. check it out.
>> we'll fight this terrible ruling. we're going to take our case as far as it needs to go including all the way up to the supreme court. i was elected to change our broken and dangerous system and thinking in government that has weakened and endangered our country and have left our people defenseless. >> shannon: he talks about this ban before he was elected. will his words come back to haunt him? let's talk about it with andrew napolitano. we have so much to talk about. let's talk about the arguments where there is today. the fourth circuit used to be known as very conservative. it got a makeover under the obama administration. >> bill clinton began it and obama continued it. younger, more liberal judges. if you go by ideology alone.
i still think that judges at times can leave their ideological baggage at home. if you go by ideology at home alone this is not a -- they will probably find attractive that the motivation for this is the words that candidate trump used which were a little incendiary. it was the thick of a political campaign. that motivation shows a bias against religion. if the court finds it is truly a muslim ban and not an immigration national security-based ban, that raises the bar so high that the justice department probably cannot jump over it and the president will lose. if they do not look at candidate trump's words but just at president trump's words and if they just look at the statute, the lower court should be reversed and the travel ban put back in place. >> shannon: that hearing happens today. it takes a while to get a
decision. next week they'll hear this over in the ninth circuit and that is also a court that does not love donald trump policy based on the rulings they've seen so far. in the two courts handle the issue and if there is a split in the circuits, how long could it take to play out? the president keeps saying we'll see you at the supreme court. it could take to the end of the first term. >> let's say the two courts both agree or both disagree. whatever they do, they will probably send this back to the district courts, the trial courts for a trial. there is not yet been a trial in seattle, in honolulu, or in maryland. there has just been preliminary rulings. that means a trial judge looks at the papers, hears oral argument and guesses, predicts which way a trial is likely to go. that guess or prediction results in the injunction and that is what's being appealed. but the supreme court likes to wait until there is a full
record before it meaning a trial in honolulu, in seattle, in maryland and then an appeal of the outcome of those trials and then an appeal of that to the supreme court. >> shannon: we are talking years. >> you're probably talking the full-time of donald trump's term in office, during which the travel ban will be enjoined while those trials are going on. that's probably what is going to happen. on the other hand if the circuits disagree and supreme court wants to set down the law they could hear it as quickly as next april. >> shannon: we'll be watching. it's fascinating to us. when you explain it i think our viewers learn about it. >> it is unusual but all of this litigation would be right under our noses that we can hear the oral arguments and almost watch the development of the law as it happens. >> shannon: i'll be watching c-span. join me this afternoon. bill, back to you. >> bill: thank you, guys. a fox news alert out of texas,
the governor signing a new -- it tefls police to ask the immigration status of anyone they pull over. any officials who don't follow that will face jail time. it is sparking debate and outrage. protestors in the city of austin. challenging the law in court. many police chiefs apose that new legislation. >> shannon: hillary clinton with a cryptic message of for the media. what reporters would let her talk about it. >> the comments so crude by bill maher we won't show it to you. is there even a line anymore in american media? howard kurtz on that next. aperw.
many drinks, this is the result of the his s.u.v. crashing through the wall minutes later sending folks running for their lives. surveillance video capturing the scene in salem, oregon. one person in the bar suffered a minor injury. the driver is facing a bunch of charges as you would expect including for now drunk driving. >> bill: france over the weekend congratulating the winner and taking a swipe at american media. or what was the swipe all about after all? here it is victory from macron for france and the e.u. and the world. defeat to those interfering with democracy but the media says i can't talk about that. howard kurtz, how are we doing, howie? what was that all about? >> first of all the little known reason that she lost the presidential election her twitter feed was boring. i'm glad she is showing personality.
the way she got hammered by the press on the left to some extent as well as the right for an interview she did last weekend with cnn and which she said i take full responsibility for my loss except it was really the fault of jim comey, the russians, wikileaks and never acknowledging any mistakes she had made. >> bill: she crossed off a lot of them in that answer, didn't she? that was something else. when we were talking last week about the colbert situation, there was another situation over the weekend with bill maher on hbo. it was a direct show at the first daughter. when does this stop? or does it? >> i mentioned it on my show yesterday but we don't want to say what it is. a sexual joke and disgusting. no doubt about that. the fact that bill maher drank
in ivanka trump is revealing. there is a feeling in american culture you can insult donald trump in the most vicious ways and ways no modern president has previously been subjected to and it's perfectly acceptable. you bring in ivanka trump for being the president's daughter and taking a job at the white house. >> bill: can you turn that around and imagine if the shoe was on the other foot? >> if these kind of jokes had been made against one of barack obama's daughters. there would be a media explosion. maher floats a little below the radar. to do it in this way and all these jokes about ivanka. i just draw the line. not that she can't be criticized. she is a grown up business woman who has taken this job. but to do it in such a disgusting way i think reflects
this view that well, the president is out of control, we need ivanka to rein him in and moderate him and therefore anything the president does gets sort of blamed on her in a bizarre way. but then to go to the -- the fact that colbert and maher are telling sex jokes about this family. >> bill: newt gingrich is talking about that with chris wallace on fox news sunday. >> the problem you have with humor in america today is that hollywood is so enraged at donald trump that they can't be funny. all they have is pure anger. and that's what's coming out in this stuff. then they think it must be funny because they are called comedians so they exhibit their anger on late night television and you are supposed to laugh. they ain't funny. they're too angry to be funny?
>> is there a level of anger that comes through in the fuel? >> yes, sometimes anger can fuel it in a good way. it is not just colbert, there are others that have take him on in sometimes serious ways and sometimes borderline funny ways. it is fueled by anger and it is fascinating to me with the exception of jimmy fallon. i think all are in the anti-trump camp. were it a different target you would have had more -- >> bill: you have to agree the pay for the hmo service. it doesn't come into your home for nothing. with cbs as a broadcast channel it does come into your home. without so much as a payment,
howie. they will investigate colbert on behalf of the government. does it go anywhere based on the jokes of last week? >> there could be a fine against cbs. it was a scripted joke. i'm not crazy about the government getting involved. people should turn those shows off if it bothers them. >> bill: howard kurtz in washington, d.c. what's next? >> shannon: coming up a gruesome double murder. two doctors killed in their luxury penthouse. a message was scrawled on the wall. what police are saying about the suspect. >> bill: the senate taking up the healthcare bill passed by the house last week. does it stand a chance of getting anywhere next? we'll tell you what the next steps are as reince priebus talks to chris wallace here. >> everyone is excited and take the time necessary to look at the bill. make improvements and the bill will be brought back for a conference.
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>> bill: yankees or cubs fans you might be tired this morning. that's okay. last night game was a grind. 18 innings. six hours, five minutes. 48 strikeouts. that's a record. 15 different pitchers. and a partridge in a pear tree. the yankees win 5-4. 18 innings. sweeping the weekend series at wrigley. pretty good for the yankees. the payroll in cincinnati is like $200,000. that's all right. >> shannon: they were able to
carry out the sweep. have you ever been at one of these super long crazy games. i've got an 11 inning limit and that's it. >> bill: i thought you left when the beer sales were cut off. >> shannon: i leave when they start. they never end, right? we've got a fox news alert out of boston. a double homicide that shocked the city. two doctors engaged to be married found murdered in their luxury apartment building. we're live in boston. molly, what do we know about this horrific crime so far? >> this brutal killing that happened late friday night. the bodies of these two successful doctors were found in their luxury penthouse apartment in south boston just after police engaged in a shoot-out who they believe to be the alleged killer. there was a report of a man with a gun. they went into the building and encountered a male suspect. when he saw them he opened fire. after a violent struggle the man identified as 30 year
teixeira of custody was taken into custody and taken to the hospital. he survived. the swat team made a protective sweep of the location and that's when the victims were discovered both suffering from traumatic injuries, pronounced dead at the scene. they've been identified as richard field, 49 years old and linda bolanos. according to the "boston globe," they had their throats slit. those two doctors were bound by the hand and there was blood on the walls. teixeira has a record. he had pled guilty to robbing the same bank twice. boston police commissioner bill evans does not believe this vicious attack was random. >> someone had come here, go up to the 11th floor to a penthouse, we have to believe there was some type of knowledge of each other here. >> teixeira pled guilty to both bank robberies in september of
2016. he had been sentenced to a year in the house of correction, but clearly he was out on the streets. >> shannon: do we have any word on what charges he could face in this crime? >> just getting word from the district attorney's office he is facing two counts of murder. we're awaiting when he will be arraigned. possibly later this afternoon from the hospital. >> molly love for us in boston. >> bill: my conversation with condoleezza rice on how to deal with north korea, russia, and her advice today for president donald trump. hello mom. amanda's mom's appointment just got rescheduled - for today. amanda needs right at home. our customized care plans provide as much - or as little help - as her mom requires.
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sally yates who says she warned the trump administration about contacts between michael flynn and russia will testify at a hearing on russian interference in the election today. welcome to a brand-new hour of america's newsroom. i'm shannon bream. good to see you. >> bill: i'm bill hemmer, good weekend? >> shannon: fabulous, rain be darned. >> bill: we had a lot of that. the other big story in washington is healthcare. certainly that bill narrowly passing in the house last week facing a battle now in the senate. house speaker paul ryan defending republican efforts calling it a rescue mission for american healthcare today. >> that is what we want to get to and you can't say for healthcare in america one size fits all. one rule for the entire country. our states are different. us keeping our promises and it is much better policy than what we're seeing with obamacare. >> bill: two big topics now. mike emmanuel is running down both of them. what about expectations with sally yates?
is there a bombshell expected today, mike? >> there are clearly some democrats who hope sally yates will drop a bombshell. they believe she may embarrass the white house. she told the white house counsel's office on january 26th there were some inconsistencys in michael flynn east story about his contact with russia. he was let go after he misled pence when he said he didn't talk about sanctions in calls with the russian ambassador before the inauguration. president trump issued a preemptive strike this morning on twitter saying ask sally yates under oath if she knows how classified information got into the newspapers soon after she explained it to white house counsel? that hearing and a senate subcommittee gets underway at 2:30 p.m. today. >> we'll see if that question comes up. what's the latest on the healthcare push in the senate? where is that today as you would characterize it?
>> mcconnell has a working group of 13 senators trying to find consensus on healthcare reform. one of the senators not part of that group says the senate intends to make substantial improvements to what passed the house. >> we'll come up with a whole new fresh approach that solves the legitimate flaws that exist with the aca where we've seen in some markets insurance fleeing so people won't be able to buy subsidized insurance. my goal is to expand coverage for those 28 million americans who still lack coverage today. >> when she makes reference to to aca that's the affordable care act. democrats want to be involved in discussions with the future of healthcare. >> i want to sit down and try to get something done. no one has asked us. i understand we have 13 republican senators working on revamping the bill. our congressional delegation said the senate will fix it. no one has asked any democrat.
>> we expect more conversations and discussions this week over the future of healthcare. it sounds like the senate does not want to be rushed by any artificial timetable. >> bill: mike emanuel on the hill. >> shannon: joining us for more on all these topics brit hume. great to see you. let's start with healthcare. the senate says they're starting from scratch and there are mine fields from the gop. senator collins and mckowski said if it defunds planned parenthood they don't want to talk about it. rand paul won't vote for a subsidy. do you think it gets through to the president's desk? >> not a very appetizing menu there. mitch mcconnell's skills to try to engineer some product through his committees that can
pass the senate and then be reconciled with the house version so that you end up with a bill that it can go back to both houses and be passed again. there is a long, long way to go. people are saying we're halfway there with the house bill. i would say we're probably a quarter of the way there. there are three more steps that will have to be taken, none of them easy, in order to bring this to legislation. only then, i think, can we seriously talk about the political impact of that or the actual impact on our health insurance system. >> shannon: that will take time. something very immediate today this hearing that will involve former acting attorney general sally yates testifying under oath about what she did or didn't tell the white house with regard to general michael flynn. the president tweeting about sally yates saying ask her under oath if she knows how classified information got into the newspaper soon after she explained it to white house counsel. what do you think we'll get from this hearing today? >> someone will ask that question, i imagine someone
would. there are many other questions that have to do with the nature of the warning she gave the white house about the flynn conversations with the russian ambassador, which on the face of it there is nothing improper about that. how extensive were the discussions about sanctions, and whether indeed any promises were made to the russian ambassador about what the trump administration might be prepared to do with regard to those sanctions. all of that will be grist for the mill. the problem is that the fact that there was such a phone call is classified, although it's leaked out. the content of it is also similarly classified. so while there was nothing improper telling the white house about it. that was the right thing to do. the fact that it leaked is an issue and the fact it's classified may limit how much she can say. this is one of those hearings which is long anticipated, a lot of excitement about it, the history of these things is that they don't ever quite amount to as much as you hope or as some
parties hope. we'll see. >> shannon: white house press secretary sean spicer and also chief of staff reince priebus both had similar explanations about what happened with regard to flynn saying that yates gave them a heads-up. there was a conversation that white house counsel immediately told the president about it. they ordered an investigation to see if everything was legally on the up and up or needed to be taken care of and it was essentially put to bed. we expect to hear a different story from sally yates. >> the white house is calling it a heads-up. others are calling it more of a dire warning. if this comes down to the difference between a heads-up and dire warning it won't amount to much. on the other hand if what sally yates lays out about flynn is very, very serious, and the white house then didn't really do anything about it until
flynn misled the vice president about the nature of his conversations, that would be an embarrassment to the white house. in the end you have to be faced with this fact. flynn is gone and indeed long gone. so how much political mileage anybody will be able to get out of what flynn did or did not do is unclear to me. >> shannon: all of this is against the back drop of the investigations into potential russian interference and potential collusion with the trump campaign. so far both sides of the aisle say they have no evidence of that. collusion between the campaign and russia. but it seems all sides agree there was definitely meddling and interference. it also leads to the question about unmasking and how it happened in the context of russian investigations. somebody we won't hear from today is susan rice. her attorney says we weren't consulted on the dates and two weeks isn't enough time to prepare for this type of hearing.
>> she will testify. they can always subpoena her. she can come in and tell her side of the story. she clearly asked for the unmasking of at least one official caught up in the foreign intercept. we'll see what comes of that whether it turns out it was anything highly improper or not remains to be seen. she will have to testify. i think her position on this was it would have looked better for her to come and testify right away, after all how much preparation do you have to do to simply tell the truth. but they will get her eventually. we'll see. >> shannon: lindsey graham said he is not prepared to subpoena her but we'll take care of her. that could be interesting. sometimes these hearings, the expectation is so built up you don't get the silver bullet or thing you're looking for that would wrap everything up in a neat, tidy bow. >> i will say this. i've done this for a long time in washington every now and then one of these
hearings happens and somebody says something you didn't expect and hadn't heard and it changes everything. i think of famously alexander butterfield testifying before the senate watergate committee there was a taping system in the nixon white house that nobody knew about it. i was listening to it on the way to a doctor's appointment. it changed everything in the watergate scandal. those moments don't come along often but when they do, wow. >> shannon: it's why i like to watch these hearings even though no one else wants to watch them with me. >> bill: thankfully we got brit out of florida. where have you been, come on. >> shannon: he has been enjoying the southern hemisphere. >> bill: we missed you. welcome back. thanks, brit. nine past the hour now. here we go. new details on another american detained in north korea. that brings the number to four. we talked to former secretary
of state condoleezza of the biggest foreign policy challenges facing this white house. her advice to the president. that coming up and then there is this. >> shannon: france has elected its next president. the wave of nationalism that swept europe extended to the french. how does it affect americans here at home? we'll have details. but when family members forget, trust angie's list to help. [ barks ] visit angieslist.com today.
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>> bill: macron winning the french presidential election in a landslide. it raises the questions about the populist tied in europe and le pen supporters were acknowledged by macron. >> bill: do that boo them. they have expressed anger and disbeliefs. i will do everything in the five years to come so there is no more reason to vote for the extremes anymore. >> bill: we're watching it live in paris with more on the fallout after the vote. hello. >> there are a lot of magazines out today. think is my favorite cover. la kid, marking the 39-year-old macron as the youngest french president in modern times here. looked skilled and well crafted victory celebration in front of
the louvre after a 66 to 34% win over le pen. he has to put something a government. as for le pen. she got something like 11 million votes. the nationalist message played in some parts of the country but the polarizing rhetoric did her in and 1/3 of the electorate didn't vote for either one with economy and security jitters many french aren't happy with the candidates put to them yesterday. >> do you think he will do a good job? >> i hope so. maybe for something new he needs the energy. >> he is young and he will win. >> no good. why? >> a quick learning curve for him. he has a g7 and nato summit
coming up where he will meet another outsider turned leader, president trump. >> bill: thank you, greg. >> shannon: for more on this let's bring in nigel farage, a fox news contributor. all right. let's start off with the question a lot of folks have stateside. does this send a message that the populist wave that brought us president donald trump is over in europe? >> no, not at all. look, in the first round of this election 46 1/2% of people voted for passes that were -- in this round, it was more like 35%. what that says is that le pen, with the front national brand was not able to bring together people from the left of right of politics under her banner and i think what will happen here is -- i hope, because i spoke to her campaign team last night. i've been talking to her for the last five years.
the front national needs to get rid of the baggage of the past. the shadow of her father. when she does that she will be in a stronger position and secondly fascinatingly 80% of the over 65s voted for macron. generationally it's the older people that are sticking to the old european model and the younger people that are rejecting it. i would say this to you. she got 35% this time. in 2022 i believe she will win. >> shannon: that's a bold prediction. we'll have you stick around and come back and we'll revisit and see what happens. a lot of people are saying what happens if france in the next five years will continue to break the country apart in ways that are possibly irreversible with the economy and terror threat. this endorsement of macron over le pen, people are thinking beyond those things. they don't like the divisive
rhetoric. he was cozy with trump. he didn't formally endorse her. they're staying stateside it was a rebuke to him and the forces that lifted him to office. >> look, the front national has been a very divisive force in french politics and much as she is a more attractive figure than her father clearly not enough to bring all the euro skeptics in that election yesterday. what macron represents. look, he walked up to his victory speech to the anthem of the european union. imagine that. you become president of your country and you march up to the theme of a foreign nation and guess where macron is going this afternoon? catching a plane to meet his new boss in berlin. and in the end what the french are going to see is five more years of failure, five more years of being stuck in the wrong currency and five more years of increasing terrorist attacks. the french may not have gone
for brexit yesterday the way the brits did last year but i believe genuinely sincerely it is only a matter of time. >> shannon: he acknowledged yesterday that there was a lot of anger behind that vote and he will try to work on it. nigel, good to see you, thank you. >> bill: president trump about to go overseas, his first trip at commander-in-chief. lieutenant colonel oliver north on the biggest policy challenges facing this administration. >> shannon: a doctor in the house weighing in on how pre-existing conditions would be covered from the house plan. it led to a fiery debate on fox news sunday this weekend. >> the bottom line is there is a lot of trash being tossed about. there is no change in pre-existing conditions for the people in the affordable care act and are in states that don't have a waiver.
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>> it was ending the ability of insurers you can't get insurance because you have bad genes. americans don't like it. why would you possibly want to reintroduce this? >> it doesn't change pre-existing conditions for the vast majority of people. the your state waives out they can charge you 30% more if you don't want insurance coverage. >> bill: this was a debate about people with pre-existing conditions. my next guest is describing what the republican plan gets right. dr. mark siegel with me in studio. it was all over there on fox news sunday there with the
white board. i want to keep it in english here. under this plan and the way republicans are reforming or would like to reform obamacare, what does it do for pre-existing conditions? >> rove is essentially right. you will get to keep the insurance you have as opposed to what was promised nine years ago. you get to keep it with the pre-existing condition unless you're in a state that asks for a waiver and has something in place like a high-risk pool where they could separate out somebody who is very sick who has a lapse in coverage. you still have a pre-existing condition covered unless you lapse. then you go into a high-risk pool where you are covered. this is the only problem. if you're in that high-risk pool what will you pay? that's where i say the government has to step in and hefsh lie subsidize those pool. the kaiser family foundation
said high-risk pools can work but they're traditionally under fund them. the $8 billion is not enough proposed. high-risk pools for states who asks for waivers. otherwise they will be covered. >> bill: when they say they won't be covered -- >> it's not fair and it's not accurate. >> bill: on the piece you wrote over the weekend for "the new york times" you gave two great examples. following is this. a woman age 60 comes to see you every two weeks with allergy problems. you conclude she doesn't but she still comes back to see you. why is that bad? or wrong? what would you do about it? >> she thinks she is infected. i can't prove it until i see her. when i see her i can tell she is not infected. there may be something else going on but i have to see her to figure it out. here is the thing. i and many other doctors have
to practice defensively these days because we're afraid of missing something or being told we missed something. that's tort reform. the other issue is the insurance system that we have doesn't allow us to charge people more who overuse the system. there is an awful amount of overuse involved a lot with a lot of sick people. people use insurance a lot in the last two years of life. we have innovation. this is a very expensive healthcare system. on top of that we're overusing it. >> bill: what is your solution to an issue like that if there is overuse in the system? >> i think patients should pay more for overusing the system and doctors paid less. >> bill: the second example you give is your 93-year-old father who has a heart condition and has a piece inserted into his heart and it costs $50,000. why do you use that anecdote to
make what point? >> by the way, thank god my father is alive and thank god that worked. i made the point that in the future medicare may not be able to cover all of this innovation. this personalized solutions. a valve like that is only covered because some lobby fought for it. medicare is not covering enough wheelchairs. medicare is going bankrupt, a good reason, we have great technology. in the future that valve may not be covered. i was making the point maybe we ought to start saving now with health savings account. we have retirement accounts, iras. have a health savings accounts. when you get to that age if the valve isn't covered. wait a minute, you don't want your father to get that valve? of course i do. but if medicare were to turn him down he would have another way. that way would be a more private way which you could take your health savings account and i don't want to pay
$50,000, i want to pay $30,000 or $25,000 and negotiate the price down. >> bill: it all goes to costs and what is affordable. >> i want the government to step up and increase the number of federally funded clinics they have in national health service corp. i want to double that so nobody can criticize our federal government and donald trump saying you don't care about poor people. let's provide the care directly to people who don't have. >> bill: marc siegel: >> shannon: we're awaiting a highly anticipated hearing in washington that could clear up conflicting information about former national security advisor michael flynn and his contacts with russian officials. former acting attorney general sally yates will testify before the senate today. she said she warned the white house and the sit down
interview with condoleezza rice and her expertise in russia. what she has to say about the state of u.s./russia relations and so much more. >> eventually the two men will have to go into a room and president trump will have to say to vladimir putin, i understand that russia doesn't like the way that the cold war ended but the cold war is over.
>> shannon: the senate's russia investigation setting the stage for fireworks on capitol hill. sally yates set to testify about her role in the resignation of national security advisor michael flynn. it is the first time yates will get a chance to speak publicly about the concerns she raised to the white house. she is set to appear before a congressional subcommittee. we will have her testimony live as soon as it gets underway
later today. >> bill: amid rising tensions between the u.s. and north korea they say they've now detained another american held for acts of hostility aimed at overthrowing that country. that brings the number of americans now being held that we know of to four. i spoke with the former secretary of state condoleezza rice who already believes that the tensions in north korea developed into a dangerous matters. she has a new book out this week. in a wide ranging interview we talked about this and more starting with the emerging threat from pyongyang. >> it's a very dangerous situation because over the recent years they've gotten more capable with their nuclear program. apparently more capable also with the long range missile program. it puts the u.s. at risk. no american president can allow a reckless a little unhinged
leader of north korea to be able to terrorize the united states. they are trying, i think, a combination of pressure, which is to convince the world that the united states will not stand idly by and let this happen. this pressure is mostly aimed at the chinese who have some influence, not absolute influence, but some influence with the north korean regime because the chinese will have to do some very tough things in order to change the course of this. >> do you think beijing is willing to do this? >> beijing has to understand that the choice is do we let the north koreans go along and what if that regime collapses. they worry about long border, refugee flows but now they need to understand the time is up. as secretary tillerson said, the time for strategic patience is passed. >> bill: under the right
circumstances he would meet with kim jong-un. >> the circumstances need china serious about it and the united states will put all options on the table but frankly they aren't that good. >> bill: you talk about russia and the soviet union and vladimir putin as well. one thing president and vladimir putin have in common they want to defeat isis and the russians have been a victim of terrorism in their own country. is that how president trump best manages this relationship? >> context matters here, bill. i'm all for the russians fighting islamic terrorism. they certainly face it particularly in the south but recently in some of their cities they've had these attacks yet you have to say to putin, do understand that we take very seriously our article
5 and attack upon one is an attack upon all nato obligations to our allies in eastern europe. whether in the baltic states or poland. don't be confused about that. ukraine, you have to understand that we're not going to recognize the forcible incorporation of crimea and so if the context is right i think there is a lot that we can agree with and cooperate with the russians including, by the way, north korea, where if kim jong-un can eventually reach the western part of the united states, he can certainly reach russia. >> bill: what do you think this president's strongest hand is with vladimir putin? they may meet in a matter of weeks perhaps, maybe this summer. >> its his strongest hand is the reestablishment of american military power as a deterrent. this is a president who is not afraid to say that will not stand. so i thought that the strike in
syria was well timed from a number of perspectives. i think rebuilding the american military budget is important as a signal that the united states will not let certain things stand but the two men will have to go into a room and president trump as presidents before him will have to say to vladimir putin, i understand that russia doesn't like the way that the cold war ended but the cold war is over, our alies in eastern europe have to trust us and you have to understand that i will defend them if necessary. >> bill: you met with the president at the white house last month. >> that's right. >> bill: how do you think he is doing? >> i think the president first of all is completely new circumstance in the united states. somebody who has never been in government at all. that's the first time in our history. but he came to office because there were people in our
country who felt that our institutions didn't fully represent them and i respect that. i respect that they went through the democratic process to elect someone who they feel can better their circumstances and deal both with their aspirations and fears. i will always respect the presidency of the united states. >> bill: you're okay with him? >> so far i'm okay. >> bill: 10:00 eastern time with sean later this evening to talk about her books and so many other topics. no plans to join the trump administration. she has no plan to run for president which was the most asked question from all of our views out there and you could probably think the reason rex tillerson has his job in large part to what her job was? >> shannon: how about the nfl commissioner? >> bill: goodell has the job and he likes it. >> they will be waiting in the
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the incoming french president macron attending a ve day ceremony standing along the current president holland. it was his first public event since yesterday's landslide election victory. he got to work quickly. >> shannon: not wasting any time. a lot to be done. >> bill: you like it when we speak of the french. >> shannon: it rolls off the tongue. there are so many languages he speaks. >> bill: not much. >> shannon: president trump preparing for his first overseas trip since taking office. during the nine day tour later this month he will visit israel, saudi arabia and the vatican. joining us now is oliver north. good to see you this morning. so already secretary mattis has visited. we have general dunford there.
what does it tell us about our relationship with israel under this administration. >> it makes good sense. in the aftermath of the meeting with the president and abbas there are no issues of concern in israel. as you pointed out this is the general's third trip to israel and will meet with netanyahu. defense minister lieberman. general mattis has made a trip there. all of this is very appropriate. israel is, after all, the only democracy in the middle east, a strategic ally and they have a busy agenda. joint projects with israel. concerns about the syrian civil war and the chemical weapons they've got. russian interference with the israeli air force's self-defense strikes against hezbollah in syria and the threat to sinai in israel and
u.n. peacekeepers. a lot on the table. >> shannon: there is a lot to unpack there. i have to think that top of mind for israel as well is iran's deal. the nuclear deal with the u.s. which our president was very critical of during the campaign. there are a lot of questions and tough talk coming from the state department and other portions of the administration to iran with regard to that deal. it seems like for now they acknowledge that iran's in compliance but maybe not the best deal if compliance is so easily met. >> exactly. there is no doubt that's the number one concern to israel and it ought to be to us. it's a threat to both of us and likely the prime minister will raise that again. he is probably also going to get an earful to the general about reasons why the palestinian demand for giving up judea and samaria would be a disaster for national
security. the president who said he wants to facilitate a peace deal is potentially a problem. abbas does not speak for hamas. their general principles and policies document they released last week make it clear they're still committed to the destruction of the jewish state. as long as hamas exists, the so-called two-state solution is a pipe dream. >> shannon: you mentioned earlier several issues complicating all of this relationship. with regard to russia and what's going on in syria right now, what can the u.s. and israel as allies do to better that situation? >> well, look, israelis are not in direct contact with the russians in syrians. we are. we have a joint planning session with the russians every week. we have a communications setup from essentially iraq to make sure that russian air strikes aren't hitting our people. the russians are very concerned about the israeli strike last week on the outskirts of
baghdad against a hezbollah weapons column moving from syria into lebanon. and so there ought to be some degree of coordination that can be worked out so the russians don't start firing their surface to air missiles at israel. >> a top secret mission is over. what was this thing doing in space for a long amount of time? we'll talk about that in a moment.
backlash from the passage of the bill last week and defending it as a good jumping off point. senators say there will need to be lots of changes. we're looking at the politics of the bill and its future in the u.s. senate. former acting attorney general sally yates testifying today. we have a preview on "happening now." ♪ >> bill: how about that? unmanned space plane landed successfully orbiting the earth for 718 days in space. earth orbit. the role of the spacecraft remain classified. what was it doing?
we have a guest to reveal the big secrets from space. nice to see you. x37b, what does all that stand for? >> well, it's x means experimental aircraft. in this case the spacecraft. 37b started x37 was the project that nasa had, a lifeboat spacecraft that could stay on the space station for a long time and land on a runway. that got canceled and turned over to the air force pretty much and so what it is doing, i think what the air force is saying it's doing i would assume is what it's doing, looking at technologies for future spacecraft and doing experiments. it's a classified mission, unmanned. >> bill: it takes off like the space shuttle and lands like one >> takes off like a rocket and lands on a runway. it landed on the kennedy space
center runway. first time since the last space shuttle landing. it's reusable. it doesn't splash down somewhere. >> bill: not as big as a shuttle but similar in size. >> the way it looks. it is much smaller. the shuttle is much bigger than this. there are no people and not carrying a big payload. >> bill: you can launch a satellite and stays there for years until it burns out and no longer usable. this was a craft that orbited the earth for 700 days and then came back. >> satellites don't land on runways. this landed on a runway after 718 days. this is something you keep on orbit for a long time and still bring crew back with. no one was inside this one. >> bill: give me a sense of the possibilities you could do with the technology of orbiting for 700 days and landing.
>> for the 700 day orbit. the space shuttle can only stay two weeks or you run out of consumables. even the russian -- you could leave up there and give you a second option and come home in a hurry but be able to leave it up there for a long time. the other thing that's more exciting is this sort of thing could lead to a commercial application in the future. the space shuttle program. just imagine if this could lead like other military aircraft going back to celebrating ve day. going back to world war ii was the beginning of using airplanes more in the air and used it for commercial use. something like this could lead to technology that i think
could be -- orbital space plane talked about for decades and it was too expensive. new york to europe quick or across the country in minutes. >> bill: some people think it could disable satellites in space. >> you can guess what the military application is. i think -- >> bill: that is the ultimate challenge. if you can control satellites, you run the world. >> that's a pretty bold statement. i think you're probably right. i don't know if that's the major objective of this. it might be. i think there are a lot of exciting things that could spill over into a lot of applications. thanks for having me. >> bill: always great to have you. >> shannon: check this out. if paying taxes on earth wasn't enough of a pain, think of paying taxes in space. the tax board wants the public to weigh in on the idea, taxes on commercial space transportation companies. if a company's rocket launches from california it will pay
less tax the farther away from earth that thing travels. hum. we'll see how that does. >> bill: stay out of california. a pearl harbor survivor and skydiver celebrating 96 years this way. what he plans to focus on instead and how he is not planning to give up his parachute. >> every time you do something like this it makes you feel pretty good, you know. nobody else has done it.
>> shannon: a world war ii veteran writing and in his 96th birthday by jumping out of a plane. a pearl harbor survivor, and an experienced skydiver. he says he is putting away the parachute after the birthday jump, now 96. you never know what is going to happen tomorrow. sticking to a busy schedule with plans for traveling, and giving motivational speeches. i'm already motivated.
are you kidding me? thank you for your service, sir. >> bill: i feel old already. >> shannon: it is a beautiful thing. let's go skydiving! >> bill: have a great monday, everybody. we will see you tomorrow! >> jon: a fox news alert, we await action and then senate, repealing and replacing obamacare with a new battle brewing over the gop's health care plan, good morning to you, welcome to "happening now," i am jon scott. >> info jenna lee today, president trump clearly telling senate lawmakers not to let the american people down on health care. but senate majority leader mitch mcconnell indicates that the process will not be rushed. while some other senators are saying that today will start from scratch. still the president's team insisting that health care reform will happen. >> he will get this done. we will repeal and replace