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news specialists today lawyer ingraham and chris stirewalt. we thank all of you for watching. it's been a great week. thank you for watching on social media fnc twitter and facebook. 5:00 will never be the same. "special report" coming up now. ♪ >> bret: president trump warns his former fbi director to watch what he says amid reports the president asked james comey for a pledge of loyalty and insinuates it might all be caught on tape. this is "special report." ♪ ♪ >> bret: good evening, welcome to washington. i'm bret baier. new threats, real or implied tonight from president trump as the fallout continues over his firing of fbi director james comey. the president tweeted a warning to comey this morning to be careful what he says to the media. also, the president floated the idea of canceling future press briefings and handing out written statements and answers instead. we have fox team coverage.
catherine herridge tells us what all this means on the investigation going forward. we start off again tonight though with chief white house correspondent john roberts on the north lawn. the social media beat a bit this morning. john. >> just a little bit, good evening, bret, how are you? i can't remember a time when the president of the united states said what president trump said to james comey today. >> in the middle of a ferocious tweet storm from the president this morning, a remarkable shot across the bough to his fired fbi director. the president warning, quote: james comey better hope that there are no tapes of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press. the president was referring to three occasions on which he claims comey told him he was not being investigated in connection with russia. >> he said it once at dinner and then he said it twice during phone calls recall. >> the tweet raised questions as to whether president trump was recording his conversations. at the daily briefing today, press secretary sean spicer refused to elaborate. >> i have talked to the president. the president has nothing further to add on that.
>> and then when asked if the tweet was implied threat against comey. >> that's not a threat, he simply stated a fact that the tweet speaks for itself. i'm moving on. >> the tape's tweet was in reaction to a story in the "new york times" that the president asked comey to make a pledge to him. he may have thought he was leaking the contents of their conversations. though today he denied he asked comey to pledge loyalty to him. >> no, i didn't. i don't think it would be a bad question to ask. i think loyalty to the country, loyalty to the united states is important. you know, i mean, it depends on how you define loyalty. number one. number two, i don't know how that got there because i didn't ask that question. >> as the back story to comey's firing continues to evolve, it is becoming clear that the russia investigation was very much on the president's mind. and it continues to be. last night unprompted president trump sent a letter from his tax attorney to senator lindsey graham who had said he wanted to look into the president's business dealings with russia. the letter, dated march 8th
stated that with a few exceptions a review of the last 10 years of the president's tax returns showed no income of any type from russian sources. no debt owed to russian lenders. no equity investment by russian persons in trump. the president did make money from the 2013 miss universe pageant held in moscow and the 96-million-dollar sale of a florida property to a russian billionaire. while the letter referenced the president's tax returns, the returns themselves were not released. president trump also lashed out today at the media's coverage of the shifting explanations for comey's firing, tweeting, quote: as a very active president, with lots of things happening, it is not possible for my surrogates to stand at podium with perfect accuracy. maybe the best thing to do would be to cancel all future press briefings and hand out written responses for the sake of accuracy. while the initial tweet appeared merely sarcastic later today the president seemed to be serious about
san selling the daily briefing media unfair to him. >> we shouldn't have them. these press conferences are like the biggest thing on daytime television. >> they are. >> you ratings. they are blowing away everything on just about everything on daytime television. what i would love to do is stop them. >> the ranking member of the senate intelligence committee mark warner today said of the tape threat if there are tapes those should be turned over to the appropriate committee as soon as possible. and whether it was the president's tweet or he just didn't want to do it, the former fbi director james comey today announced that he was not going to take off the senate intelligence committee's invitation to appear at closed session on capitol hill on tuesday. bret? >> bret: john roberts live on the north lawn. john, thank you. let's get analysis from catherine herridge. good evening, catherine. what do we know? what's new? >> well, let's take a look at comey's decision not to testify in that nonpublic session next week. i went back to the summer of last year when he made a very public announcement
about the clinton emails, the 15-minute public statement at fbi headquarters. less than two days later he testified publicly before the house government oversight committee for four hours and 38 minutes. and then in september, for a second time, before the house judiciary committee. and that was 7:56 minutes. so in that particular case, he showed no shyness in terms of going to congress. >> bret: yeah, so we don't know yet if he is going to go eventually but not next week, definitely. >> correct. >> bret: james comey, former national intelligence director, he is often cited by -- i'm sorry not james comey, james clapper. >> james clapper, i knew how meant. >> bret: often saying no collusion in that testimony. he was asked again about that in that investigation, take a listen. >> there was no evidence that came -- that rose to that level at that time that found its way in to the intelligence community
assessment which we had pretty high confidence in. that's not to say there wasn't evidence but not that met that threshold. it's not surprising or out of or abnormal that i would not have known about the investigation. even more importantly, the content of that investigation. >> bret: just so everybody understands, there is this report that says there is no evidence of collusion. at the same time, the fbi has a counter intelligence -- counter terrorism, whatever you want to call it, investigation going on. and he doesn't know about it. >> okay. so ci case within the fbi is one of the most compartmented or closely held investigations and typically they don't result in criminal charges. i spoke with a former c.i. agent this afternoon who said it would reach james clapper if charges were eminent or there was widespread evidence that americans were being recruited as spies. but i think in this particular case, the normal rules don't apply. because they were talking about the same issue, which was russian intervention in
the election. and whether they had targeted americans to work with them in cooperation. >> bret: doesn't seem like it's usual. very quickly, the fbi choice going forward. >> correct. >> bret: about 12 names. >> that's the short list, apparently. so there are three that seem to stand out at least for today. one is ray kelly the former new york city police commissioner, longest serving. he has had two terms of federal service in washington. atticus toms and treasury. the former republican chairman of the house intelligence committee mike rogers. mike rogers is someone who has good foreign policy credentials and a former fbi agent. but as we saw when he was up for cia director, he took a lot of criticism for giving a pass in the benghazi investigation that was run by his committee. and then john cornyn, the senate majority whip who was well placed for that job and as you were mentioning today has been radio silent which is often a sign that they may be a serious contender.
>> bret: we will see. catherine, thank you. >> you're welcome. >> bret: the president's attorney general is telling his prosecutors to go for it against the worse criminals. jeff sessions' instructions to seek the most severe charges and toughest penalties are drawing praise from law and order advocates and criticism from civil rights groups. correspondent peter doocy has the story. >> you drug dealers are going to prison. >> and with that a trump campaign promise of law and order became an instruction for america's law enforcement. a two-page memo from the attorney general to u.s. attorneys warns criminals. prosecutors will now almost always pursue charges with the longest possible sentences. and mandatory minimum sentence also even apply to drug offenses with which the last administration tried to be lenient and considered nonviolent. >> we are returning to the enforcement of the laws as passed by congress. plain and simple. if you are a drug trafficker, we will not look the other way. >> that's a major change from an obama administration
approach designed to reduce prison population. >> a primary driver of this mass incarceration phenomenon is our drug laws, our mandatory minimum sentencing around drug laws. >> one of obama's attorney generals eric holder now says quote the policy announced today is not tough on crime. it is dumb on crime. but, the trump white house says the change was carefully crafted. >> this policy was form lathed after extensive consultation with the prosecutors that handled these cases, each and every day around the country. >> prison reform advocates are alarmed by the prospect of a return to the war on drugs. >> the problem with the war on drugs was that it swept up not just people engaged in high level drug offending but lots of people in the lower levels of the drug trade. that had very little impact on drug use and abuse. >> on capitol hill, democrats and at least one republican are scoffing at this new policy, too. senator rand paul says,
quote: mandatory minimum sentences have unfairly and disproportionately incarcerated too many minorities for too long. attorney general sessions' new policy will accentuate that injustice. but, a former federal drug czar sees things differently. >> when they say, when holder crowd and president obama say go easy on this stuff, they want you to think what they are talking about is some guy sitting in his room toking up on a joint. that's not the kind of cases we're talking about. they didn't prosecute major drug dealing cases and this has created more of a problem. >> i was with the attorney general in west virginia yesterday when he announced a more aggressive approach to rounding up drug dealers. now he is saying what he want to do once they are in custody. but the attorney general is not proposing any new laws. is he just saying that this department will no longer pick and choose which ones to enforce. bret? >> bret: peter doocy, thank you. the head of new york city's jail system resigned today after a scathing report
found that he and 20 other senior level employees regularly abused take home vehicle privileges. joseph ponte was hired to reform the city's rikers island jail for decades and inspector's report found month used his city issued suv for 90 days out-of-state trips last year mostly to his home in maine. stocks were mixed today. the dow lost 23. the s&p 4. the dow 5. for the week the dow lost half. the s&p 500 was down a third. the nasdaq was up a third. the u.s. and china have reached a trade deal that is being billed as a first step toward bigger agreements towards the world's top two economies. it lifts the chinese ban on imported american beef. china will be able to send cooked paltry to the u.s. -- poe u.s. have greatest access to bank card market.
american delegates will attend a conference in beijing starting sunday showcasing china's infrastructure and trade plans with arab, africa and europe. let's get reaction from trish reagain who joins us tonight from new york. good evening, trish. >> good evening, bret. >> bret: what do you think? >> it's interesting in that so many people were fearful of donald trump being so protectionist, especially when it came to china. let's not forget he campaigned on this idea of free trade. so instead of putting a ton of tariffs on problems tariff pn from china maybe there is room to work things out. maybe what it is that we need actual fair trade and so part of that means, okay, you want to be banking in the u.s., china, you are want access to all our consumers here? guess what? we need access to your consumers as well. so, it's good for the banking industry, theoretically, if they can get access to those chinese
customers. it's good for the livestock industry and good for the u.s. energy industry and it will now be able to export liquid natural gas to china, something we had not been able to do before, bret. >> bret: so, does this deal have teeth? what happens if the chinese don't honor their side of things? >> it's a very good question. i think everybody is asking that right now. because let's just point out we haven't had necessarily the best luck with the chinese honoring their side of the deal. wilbur roth the customers secretary was pretty explicit though today. what's unique here is we have dates set out. the first date coming up is july 16th. and if china doesn't abide by these dates and these new restrictions set forth, then we'll have to deal with that then. but he did point out that this is important for our relationship with china. and they should want to start things off on the right foot. >> bret: part of that relationship, obviously is about north korea. do you think this deal deals
with china and getting help on nuclear ambition? >> you are spot on. let's not forget when you are friends economically with someone or some country, then you are more in things together in that we need china's help right now to deal with the crazy men in north korea. and if we are aligned with them economically, they are more incentivized to help us. and so i do think that that's part of it. i think that's why have you seen him back off talk on the campaign trail. that's why he is not looking at tariffs. how can we work together so that we, the united states, get something out of this. and how is it that we can hopefully grow all these industries while simultaneously becoming friendlier enough with them that they can be instrumental in dealing with north korea. >> bret: trish, as always, thank you. have a great weekend. >> you too. >> bret: the police chief of
an ohio village is dead tonight after a shooting incident at nursing home. it happened in kirkersville about 25 miles east of columbus. chief steven eric disario was responding to a report of a man with a gun. officers found him dead on the street. once they went inside they found two employees inside that nursing home dead along with the suspected gunman identified as thomas heartless. police say the incident began when heartless took two hostages into a wooded area behind that facility. the faith community is trying to be a bridge between citizens and law enforcement in some of the nation's toughest cities. tonight, correspondent jonathan serrie shows us how ministers in georgia are getting a firsthand look at what police officers face on the streets. [scream] [gunshot] >> these are not police cadets. >> calm down. >> they are ministers. going through police
training to bring their congregation a better understanding of life behind the badge. >> i do want to help them to see the pressure that law enforcement are under when it comes to making split second decisions. >> stay there. >> put your gun down, buddy. you don't want to do. this reverend marquel hutchins says going through a similar exercise made him realize protests in police involved shootings was not reducing tension between cops and communities. >> no one benefits from screaming at each other. we only benefit when we have the courage to talk to each other and a lot of the protests and the demonstrations, while passionate and understandable have fallen short of actually being curative. >> he launched one congregation, one precinct to encourage houses of worship to serve as liaisons between police and the neighborhoods they serve. >> a lot of times people don't think the policeman respects them because of what they see on tv.
that's actually not the truth. >> organizers announced they are taking the program national. the idea is to get cops and communities to understand each other on a human level so they can resolve conflicts before they turn violent. bret? >> bret: jonathan, thank you. up next are u.s. relations with russia getting better or worse? where do they stand now? some of our fox affiliates are covering tonight. fox 32 in chicago with another night of carnage in that city. two people killed. at least 14 others wounded in shootings thursday. more than 1100 people have been shot in chicago this year. the city recorded its 200th homicide of the year earlier this week. fox 26 in houston has about 100 homes are evacuated in a community east of the city after a fire at a crude oil facility. happened around 3:00 a.m. in beach city. fire official says the blaze may have been ignited by a lightning strike. and this is a live look at detroit from our affiliate fox 2. one of the big stories there tonight. fiat chrysler is recalling
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the update tonight from the state department. >> reporter: this week a russian fighter jet much like this one flew within 20 feet of a u.s. navy reconnaissance plan operating in international airspace over the black sea. a u.s. defense official tells fox news the russian jet was armed and the maneuver was therefore provocative. another says high altitude encounters happen almost every day of the week. communication betunited states n many levels has shifted during the trump administration as the two try again to establish a working relationship. >> >> there are a lot of very significant security problem sets across the world. all of them would get easier, right, if russia were to come to the conclusion that it could best advance its interest through cooperating with the united states and others to resolve those conflicts rather than perpetuate them. rhetoric has recently calmed. one month ago rex tillerson met with vladimir putin. recently described state
department employees his conversation. >> characterized to president putin is the lowest it has been since the cold war. he did not disagree. he shrugged his shoulders and notified in agreement. i said it's spiraling down, it's getting worse. >> tillerson then said almost no trust exists between the two countries. though state department officials say tillerson and foreign minister lavrov now speak about every other week. and in oval office discussions this week for lavrov ahead of putin and trump's scheduled meeting this summer at the g-20 summit in germany. the u.s. and russia remain sharply divided on major issues. russia is still backing the assad regime in syria and denying election meddling in the united states and europe. it also occupies crimea and continues its presence in ukraine. state department officials tell fox the u.s. positions on these issues also remain unchanged. they say they have relayed that to the russian government. the u.s. has also been more assertive in syria. >> showing the russians the respect that they really
crave while still implementing what is within u.s. national security interests at the end of the day, that might actually lead to a productive outcome. >> reporter: another area of potential cooperation addressing north korea. a state department official tells fox news the united states has asked russia to be part of an international effort to try to convince north korea to surrender its nuclear weapons program. bret? >> bret: rich edson live at the state department. rich, thank you. north korea is protesting directly to american lawmakers over the latest round of sanctions. correspondent benjamin hall has more on a peculiarier move. >> north korea has taken an unusual step. sending a rare letter of protest to the u.s. congress. on may 4th. the house voted in favor of tough new sanctions against the north and the rogue state responded in writing condemning them as heinous acts of humanity. the latest is north korea newly restored foreign affairs committee which was
revived after 19 years to improve relations with the rest of the world. but the north korean vice foreign minister showed no such signs of outreach. >> america is not just trying to intensify its attempts at isolations, pressure, and nuclear threats against our country. it's also going all out to try and eliminate our supreme leader. >> this a reference to north korea's claim last week that the cia and south korea's intelligence service plotted to assassinate kim jong un with a biochemical weapon. today they demanded the extradition of north korea's spy chief on the left accusing him of being the mastermind. after the swearing in of new left leaning south korean president. relations between the neighborhoods could get closer. president moon sis he favors expanded relations with the north and dialogue. >> if necessary, i will fly straight to washington. i will go to beijing and tokyo. and if the conditions allow to pyongyang as well. >> and today president putin
also reached out telling moan in a phonmoon was ready toa role in the north korean issue and he would be pleased to welcome a special envoy. the election of president moon in south korea could be hugely significant. he is himself the son of north korean refugees. he favors dialogue with the regime. he favors deployment of the antimissile defense system and now with russia reaching out could be very interesting to see who he works with. bret? >> bret: benjamin hall in london. benjamin, thank you. hospitals across england cancelled appointments after apparent cyber attack. northwest england and other parts of the country asked patients to stay away except for emergencies. pictures posted on social media showed screens of hospital computers with images demanding payment in online currency. prime minister theresa may says the hacking is part of a wider international cyber attack. isis is claiming
responsibility for the attempted assassination of the deputy leader of pakistan's senate. the man was not killed in the suicide bombing but at least 25 other people were. government officials say dozens more were wounded. earlier this week here in the u.s., democrats failed once again to pick up a win in typically republican territory. it happened in omaha, nebraska. you may have missed it. it was a mayoral campaign that really became a flash point for democrats over abortion. a mayor's race that went national. and then exposed a real split among democrats. chief washington correspondent james rosen has the story. this election is about change. >> as a 37-year-old former state senator, nebraska democrat heath mellow was considered a strong challenger to gene, omaha's republican mayor in tuesday's election. >> when we come together, there is nothing that can stop us from transforming
this country. when bernie sanders stumped for mellow. a devout catholic. the abortion rights group naral erupted in anger. the reactions today by the dnc to embrace and support a candidate for office who will strip women of our basic rights and freedom is not only disappointing, it is politically stupid. perez then declared that every democrat should be pro-choice adding that is not negotiable city by city or state by state. when mellow lost by seven points points, nebraska's county chair said it's astounding that our party chairman would say pro-life democrats are not welcome. >> you just had that reality hit you on the abortion question. >> at aspen institute event in washington designed to foster bipartisanship former republican chair michael steele cited the nebraska dust up as emblematic of the challenges he faces in trying to unifying the party. >> have you got to recognize that your party is bigger than what you think it.
>> perez admitted candidly that democrats are quote losing elections up and down the ballot. he maintained that the party's official view on abortion is not the reason why. >> the platform of the democratic party is a pro-choice platform. the platform does not say that we did not welcome people who are not pro-choice. the platform says we welcome people of varying views. >> perez moved on before he could be pressed between the apparent contradiction between his statement pro-choice statement is nonnegotiable for party democrat and his party offers varying views. >> bret: the u.s. is expected to broaden ban on in-flight laptops and tablets to include planes arriving from europe. they heard objections from the european union today. could effect routes that carry as many as 65 million people a year. the current ban involves only about 50 flights a day from 10 mostly middle
eastern cities. today's historic space walk outside the international space station went off but not without a hitch. correspondent phil keating shows us what went wrong and what went right. >> wreck on the. >> there is outstanding view of jack fischer. >> 250 miles above earth, nsa's jack fisher and station commander peggy whitson floating in space to the record books, making the 200th space walk in support of the international space station. >> outstanding. nice work. >> the historic space walk suffered a mike low gravity curve ball delayed start two hours. and the station's cooling core. unaffected so a shortened space walk was still able to happen. big task number one replace ago large avionics block provides electricity. faster than expected so they then had time to install a
data routeing spectrometer. >> first element of the international space station. >> very first space walk happened 18 and a half years ago, back in the united states flew space shuttles and the space shuttle was an engine. jerry ross and newman connected the module with the russian module. the orbiting outpost sure has come a long way since then. >> beautiful, beautiful. hold there. >> another record set up today as well. peggy whitson completing her ninth space walk. the most of any female astronaut. bret? >> bret: phil keating in miami. phil, thanks. we have a special sunday edition of "special report" this weekend. one of the things we will bring you an interview with transportation secretary elaine chal. among other issues, we'll talking about efforts to repair the nation's roads and bridges. >> talking about infrastructure and having a plan that actually is getting it across the finish
line in that building behind me are two different things. is there a time line for this? >> we have been hard at work at this. and so we will be releasing principles in about two to three weeks. and then the legislative proposal will probably be tackled by the congress in the third quarter. >> bret: join us for a special prime time edition of "special report" sunday 8:00 eastern. president trump warns his fired fbi director and threatens the media. we'll get reaction from the panel after a break. ♪ ♪ dry mouth can affect how your mouth feels and how you feel. discover act dry mouth, specially formulated to soothe and moisturize your mouth. and try new act dry mouth spray
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♪ ♪ >> people suggest that the question that apparently the "new york times" is selling that you asked comey whether or not you had his loyalty was possibly inappropriate. could you see how they could think that. >> i read that allergy. i don't think it's inappropriate. >> >> did ask you that question.
>> no, i didn't. i don't think it would be a bad question to ask. i think loyalty to the country. loyalty to the united states is important. you know, i mean it depends on how you define loyalty. number one, number two, i don't know how that got there. because i didn't ask that question. >> um-huh. what about the idea that in a tweet you said that there might be tape recordings? >> that, i can't talk about. i won't talk about that. all i want is for comey to be honest and i hope he will be i'm sure he will be, i hope. >> bret: president trump with judge jeanine and this comes after a "new york times" piece today. you can see it big piece. it's a private dinner, trump demanded loyalty, comey demuired as they ate the president made small talk about the election crowd sizes at president trump's rallies. he turned to comey and asked whether or not he would pledge his loyalty to him. mr. comey denied to make that pledge. by mr. comey's account. his answer apparently not
satisfy the president. later in the dinner mr. trump again said to mr. comey that he needed his loyalty. mr. comey again replied that he would give him honesty and did not pledge his loyalty according to the account of the conversation. mr. trump pressed him on whether it would be honest loyalty, you have that, mr. comey told his associates. he responded. well, the president tweeted this morning. james comey better hope that there are no tapes of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press. with that, let's bring in our panel. matt schlapp contributor with the hill. amy walter national editor for the cook political reporter and syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. well, if the media and people who cover washington were not in a flather already and this and this interview, tweets today, it put them over the top. >> wow. it's been a heck of a week. try to even think about what happened this week because so much happened.
and all i can think of when it comes to comey is that as strange as the politics are around it, one of the reasons why james comey got himself in trouble where democrats had lost confidence in him, the president had lost confidence, a lot of republicans like me had lost confidence in him is what we were reading about in the "new york times" which is that he is going to try to win this news cycle. he is going to push back on the president aggressively. it's a two-person dinner and jim comey was the only other person in that dinner and is he getting the story out exactly what happened. that's how he plays the game. that's why he became a political actor and not so much the reveered prosecutor that you are supposed to be when you run the fbi. >> bret: i guess it was this exchange, amy, at the white house briefing that really caught everybody's attention. >> did president trump record conversations with former fbi director comey? >> i have talked to the president. the president has nothing further to add on that. >> why didn't he say that? why didn't he tweet that? what should we interpret
from that. >> as i said earlier the president has nothing further. >> are are their recording devices in the oval office or the residents. >> as the i said for the third time there is nothing to add on that. >> does he think it's present to threaten director comey to speak. >> i think that's not act fall. he stated a fact. the tweet speaks for itself. i'm moving on. >> bret: amy? >> and the president himself telling in your first clip in that interview saying i'm not going to get into that either. so, there is that saying about when you are in a hole to stop digging. it just seems to me that every day the story gets bigger or the lather gets deeper based on self-inflicted wounds. and had the story -- it's not that it's going to end tomorrow, but why would you want to make it bigger and deeper by bringing up the issue of recordings. for democrats who already want to make the parallels between this and watergate,
to bring up the issue of tapes is only going to make that that much more difficult. there were plenty of ways to handle this that i think there would have been some blow back for the president. democrats would have been upset. but, would not have created the firestorm. and, again, it's all coming from within, not from without. >> bret: they have stopped talking about it, charles, but there are as can you imagine after all there was said and tweeted today calls from capitol hill for those tapes if there are tapes. and there are from committees that they would like to see them. >> well, now we have a new rabbit to chase down another rabbit hole. this is as amy says, self-inflicted. who brought up the tapes? when you hear expires saying oh, this isn't a threat, it's just -- i mean, what is it? all of a sudden you are raising something nobody had imagined. and saying you better watch
out. that's, you know, that's unpresidential. which is kind of a nice way of saying that that sounds more like a mafia boss than the president of a free republic. people say well what people like about trump is that he is unconventional. what unconventional means stepped outside of the bounds of the behavior that 40 more individuals have tried to stay within, starting with george washington, tried to set an example of a certain protect at this tuesday and dignity and to talk like well, you better watch out or you might get whacked by tapes, this is -- self-inflicted and unnecessary. i agree. there was total grounds for getting rid of comey. there was sympathy on both sides of the aisle for the mistakes he made and perhaps his unfitness for the job. but that would have made it relatively easy to get rid
of them in a way to not stir this up firestorm. then when it looks like it's starting to damp down, start up with you better watch out or something might happen to you, i think is simply extending a story that is not going to help the president. >> more than the process story, matt, and looking at what was said on all of these fronts and the russia investigation and the ty in the nbc to about his decision to fire comey is the sense that it's a cycle. if this explodes and continues to explode he can't get lawmakers together to pass things on capitol hill. if he can't get lawmakers to pass things on capitol hill, they're going to go home empty-handed and get beaten in 2018. and if they get beaten in 2018, the house and the senate will be run by democrats who will step up the investigations into donald trump. i mean, this is like a giant circle. >> it's amazing. the thing is that i think that the earliest point in a
presidency that we can remember. the other side of the aisle is at war. they don't want to pretend that they can work with each other. that's to the president's detriment. not everything he can pass is going to be on a reconciliation vehicle where you only need republican votes. is he going to need democratic votes on other things he cares about. including long-term fixes to healthcare. you're right, it's not just a problem with democrats being at war and acting like the election every day of the calendar year, the secondary piece is when presidential approval ratings stay as low as they are, it makes your own team start to get bothered. there is two things he has got to do. make sure he has got to get through this investigation. which there is really no credible evidence of any wrongdoing. that's the crazy part of this. we should be able to move beyond it, because nobody can find a scintilla of evidence that the president did anything inappropriate with russia in the campaign. have you got to get beyond this controversy and start focusing on the trump agenda which by and large on the
big very popular. >> bret: for all the leaks we have not had a leak about credible evidence of collusion. there have been a lot of leaks. but there hasn't been that. >> at the end of the lester holt interview, the president says you know what? i want to start talking about jobs and the economy and isis and building the wall. which is great. i think everybody would like him to do that. and then less than 24 hours later he tweets out the tapes and so this makes this t. that much harder. the other piece, of course, a lot of the agenda though, matt, isn't particularly popular. the healthcare piece is going to be a big, big hurdle for republicans, not just getting it passed but making sure that voters don't see it as toxic. and right now it's not particularly popular. so getting members, you're right. not just to stick with you when you are unpopular but to stick with legislation that right now isn't that popular. those are two tough things to ask your own team to do. >> bret: i want to play one more sound bite from this interview with judge jeanine that actually airs this weekend. this is about press
briefings. >> when we have those press conferences, i actually say we shouldn't have them. >> would you seriously consider stopping these press -- >> -- no. we do it in a different way. >> how? >> we do it through a piece of paper with a perfectly accurate, beautiful answer. what i would love to do is stop them. >> you don't mean that. >> well, you just don't have them. unless i have one every two weeks and i do it myself. we don't have them. do you have a level ofs who tilts that's incredible. and it's very unfair. sarah huckabee is a lovely young woman. you know sean spicer. he is a wonderful human being. he is a nice man. >> is he your press secretary today and tomorrow. >> yes, he is. >> he is doing a good job but he gets beat up. >> will he be there tomorrow? >> well, he has been there from the beginning. >> it was not a ringing endorsement, i guess, of sean spicer. >> and i'm not that outraged by his idea. the republic went along for a couple hundred years before television and before
it monopolized daytime television and another interview perhaps it was in this one, trump said that the ratings for those briefings are through the roof. i thought he would ask for the network to actually contribute something to charity as a way to pay back what he is doing for them. but, you know, if you want -- if people want to do it by writing or without cameras, that's fine. that's not the end of the republic. i think his real problem for huckabee and expires is not that they are falling on the job. it's that their job is impossible. they're sent out on the day ever the firing to give one story. and it doesn't last 48 hours before the boss gives it to contradiction. what can they do? what can they say? >> it's not the fault of expires and huckabee. that's for sure. >> bret: if he had a press briefing every two weeks, i don't know. >> that would be fine. >> i think that was the thing he said there that rings the most true which is
♪ >> bret: this is a fox news alert. we are just getting word that the department of justice will start interviews tomorrow, tomorrow morning, 7:45 in the morning for a permanent replacement for james comey at the fbi. and these are the names that we have been given who will be interviewed. alice fisher. she is a lawyer here in washington. she is the former assistant attorney general for the criminal division. we also have the current
acting director mccabe. you saw him testify on capitol hill. he is in the position right now. then john cornyn, senator from texas. he is in the running now. he is the majority whip of the senate, and judge michael garcia. he is the associate judge in the new york court of appeals and the former u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. those are the four that we have been told are interviewing for the position. matt? >> that's an impressive list. and i think a lot of this scandal going away where once again no evidence of any real collusion or wrongdoing by the trump campaign. they should be able to move beyond. this if he picks somebody to run the fbi who is unimpeachable. the list you went through is going to get rave reviews. john cornyn was on the supreme court in texas. i don't think he has an enemy on the globe.
a decent, thoughtful person. mike garcia worked for president bush and headed all of the u.s. attorneys for a period of time. it's a good list. >> bret: any problems getting those through? >> there's nobody right of that list that would raise, you know, the sirens or the alarm bells. that person is so controversial that's going to be really a tough hall for republicans. you want someone, i think, that is going to be, as matt points out sort of unimpeachable but kind of boring, right? kind of get in, do the job, stay below the radar, not going to be doing, you know, getting the kind of, as the president called show boating that you saw from the previous fbi director. >> bret: we should caveat this. this is the list we are given. the interviews we know that are happening tomorrow according to multiple sources inside the administration. could it go beyond this list? i guess. this is the list we are being given. >> it's the right kind of list. it's the right spirit.
the key here is to find somebody boring, unimpeachable. look, what's been the refrain of the democrats? they started this within minutes of the firing. we have to have a special prosecutor. why would you want to have that? because you are implying that the fbi is not going to conduct an honest investigation. you banish that thought, you refute the call by having somebody who is unimpeachable because all that's left then for the democratic argument is to say that the fbi agents themselves are corrupted, which even democrats won't say. so i think he will appoint somebody of integrity and you are done and the story is behind us for now. unless the tapes show up. >> bret: or until tomorrow. >> until tomorrow. there will be a tweet tomorrow. we start all over again there are a lot of rabbit holes out there on the plane. >> bret: we have you covered because we will be here sunday 8:00 p.m. for a special edition of "special report." up next with the panel winners and losers of the
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had the better team on the ice. winner and loser. >> my winner, remember there was an election in france that everyone was talking about, that wasn't that long ago, that was on sunday. a very big success of course we've moved onto other things we can only pay attention now in politics for 14 seconds. the loser right now, the republican health care bill, members of congress going home listening to angry constituents there are a lot of ads up on tv about it. the latest polling, approval rating, only 21%. if there are about two or three other polls, that is the lowestp to 33%. three to times say they strongly dislike them strongly like, democrats have been down this path, republicans have to find a way to message this
better. >> quickly just to follow-up paul ryan says two to three months he says the senate can move something. you have other republicans say were starting from scratch it's going to take forever. >> we know the process commits takes a long time, i don't we will get something voted on before the fall. >> bret: winter and loser. >> slightly more obscure, nobody has ever heard of him, you will hear it of him. he is an opposition candidate, he is very much more sympathetic to north korea than the current administration already he picked a fight with japan within a week of coming into office, he will pick fights with us, he's against the deployment of the missile defense system which we are installing. loser i hate to say it again, sarah huckabee sanders and mike pence, they were left hanging twisting in the wind by their boss who changed his rationale and had them unprotected. >> bret: we'll see what happens next week, thanks for
inviting us into your home tonight. fair balance, and still unafraid. it's a crazy week in washington, so why not? special report, here comes martha. >> martha: good evening everybody this friday, may 12, i martha maccallum this is "the story" ." the president and lashing out at his fired fbi director today as comey's side put out their own version. "james comey better hope there are no tapes of our conversation before he started looking for the press." comey said he's not worried about any tapes. the white house and thoughts to pivot a bit from a tough week and put some questions to rest from the letter from the president's tax attorneys about russia and also a short list of potential new fbi director