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around the world watched. live aid raised more than $125 million after rock stars helped feed the world 32 years ago today. "your world" with neil cavuto starts right now. >> neil: man, i'm getting old. that was 32 years ago? thank you, shepard. i'm neil cavuto. another record on the dow. if all of these concerns about russia and all this and the french leader and the american leader getting along, if that was a big worry and we're going to hell in a hand basket, wouldn't we be selling off? we're not. we're on capitol hill and it's a frantic rush right now on the senate floor with an alternative that will be acceptable to enough republicans to make this thing happen. in new york city, they're betting that they'll get something cobbled together. that might be wishful thinking when we get into the details of
this. in paris, the big dinner with the president of the united states and the president of france dining at one of the hottest restaurants. average meal sets you back about 230 euros. we've done the math. $260. that's without any wine. just saying. who will pick up the tab? we're on top of it, america. on top of what is happening here in america. fox senior capitol hill producer, chad pergram. they have a plan here. what is happening with it? >> there's a plan on healthcare. the key right now is not if they have the votes to pass it but if they have the votes to get on the bill. takes 51 yays and there's two republican nos.
rand paul of kentucky who says this is a far enough departure of obamacare it's not repeal and replace and susan collins of maine says she's inclined to vote no to call up the bill. she's concerned about how this affects the medicaid expansion. if they get down to 50 votes, they could get on the bill. that's where vice president pence would come into play. he's broken four ties in his short career as the vice president. joe biden never broke a tie. if they're at 50-50, you could have mike pence take the vote and you get on the bill. mitch mcconnell is insistent that they will vote next week. what we're going to look for in the next couple days, monday, a cbo score, the congressional budget office. its an evaluation of what this does to the deficit and taxes and everything else and then you have elizabeth mcdonough who has to rule to make sure it fits in budget reconciliation.
what is that? that's where if you just have 51 votes, you can shut off a filibuster presuming it's not coming from your side. that's the problem that they could be facing here if they least a couple more votes. it has to be within the parameters of budget reconciliation. it can't add to the deficit and has to be fiscal in nature. can't be about policy. if they pass a bill, it could be up to the house of representatives. the senate says it will stay here. the question is the house. >> if the senate is going to give us a healthcare bill, we're going to stay and finish it. >> the question is, if the house will stay here but they have a long way to go, neil. >> neil: there's this procedure matter first. you have to -- the process is first what? >> you have to vote to get on the bill. this happens on almost every piece of legislation. sometimes you have to overcome cloature. you can't get on the bill if they don't start the debate.
>> neil: thanks, chad. he will be keeping us abreast of the developments to a fellow with a lot at stake, gary palmer, the alabama congressman. a member of the freedom caucus. very good to have you. >> good to be on with you, neil. >> i was talking to mark meadows the other day. he was saying while he didn't like the fact that the senate at the time that was the talk, thinking of keeping the taxes for the upper income, the investment taxes and medicare tax in effect and still in place, he could kind of swallow it if it was a means to an end. a means to getting tax reform done and tax cuts in a larger sense done. are you in that camp? >> well, i could be. what i've said all along about the healthcare issue is that we need to do this in phases. if we can move this out of the senate, get it into conference and make some adjustments, i'm willing to take what we can get.
at the end of the day, we've got to figure out a way to bring down premiums. >> neil: all right. what we're dealing with though is sort of like the battle between winning over moderates, as you know, and that ticks off conservatives when that's done. then whatever is done to win over guys like you ticks off the moderates and you have all of these cynics saying there's no way this will happen. if it doesn't and you're confident that it will -- you can come to an agreement and produce an alternative to obamacare, what would you do? just move past this, shelf it and go on to tax cuts or what? >> i couldn't understand all that you said there, neil. say again. >> i barely understood it myself. in other words, you move on to tax cuts even if this fails, if it does. >> well, we're going to move on to tax cuts regardless. the thing with the healthcare bill is that i don't think
anybody really wants to bail out on this. like i said, we need to do this incrementally. i prefer to do it in phases and if it doesn't work, come back to it later. i'd like to see the bill out of the senate, get it over here in a conference committee, make some adjustments and pass that and then come back to the other issues. at the end of the day, what we've got to do is do healthcare reform in a way that reduces premiums. that's what's driving the debate right now. >> congressman, thanks very much. we'll see what happens there. by the way, we're getting word that senator roberts, pat roberts of kansas, says as things stand now, he would support the improved senate healthcare bill. i don't know if he was among the ten not too keen on it prior?
susan collins at the time and certainly rand paul, they're two definite -- look like definite nos. they can't go beyond that. there were eight others that had concerns. if they keep it down the two, the tiebreaker would be the vice president and they would get it passed. again, i don't know if senator roberts was among those leery. he's not leery now. markets are not leery of this. the back and forth. i wonder why that is. so i go to one of the smartest guys i've known since i've been covering this. can you believe decades? i don't look it. gary, what's going on with the markets? why are they so confident or does it have nothing to do with this? >> i think it has everything to do with it. you have to go back to november 9. the market had not done anything for about 1 1/2 years to two years. it lifted off of the election. there's no doubt in my mind what is built in is a lot of expectations of rolling back of lots of taxes, lots of regulations, lots of mandates,
the fixing of healthcare and the worry from me is after a 17% rally since the election, a gargantuan move, if things don't get done -- i'm talking about the big things -- we can roll back some of these good gains and pretty quickly. so i'm keeping fingers crossed that some things get done. i have to tell you, too much in-fighting going on still. >> neil: one market analyst said earlier, you know, neil, i can see a lot of this getting delayed maybe to next year. expressed very little confidence of the healthcare reform. hope springs eternal. he said i see the tax thing being next year. i can live with that. said investors can live with that. what do you think? >> you never know what investors can live with, neil. the good news is this: central banks around the globe are still printing trillions negative of rates in places like europe and japan. that is backstop markets. let me be clear also, earnings
have been decent and interest rates remain low. that helps the market. we're in decent sted. if you like me and believe the 17% rally since the election, a good portion is expectations getting done, you have to worry things turn back done if they don't get done. when i hear in the senate bill that they're not going to take care of the tax hikes, that they're going to leave them in, that really worried me. who is there to fight for the taxpayer going forward. >> neil: that's another $230 billion in spending phased in there if you think about it on top of the other so-called savings they extracted versus the house plan. it won't all be savings. that's problematic. >> neil, if anything is blocking the economy from going to 3%, 4%, it's the amount of government spending which is a gargantuan 4.1 trillion this year as well as the massive
deficits that can continue to be out there. that is the big worry. i was hoping that a new administration would come in and roll it back. so far july 13 and still no big things done, my friend. >> we shall see. all right. thanks, gary. pat roberts, the kansan republican senator looks like he will support this latest measure. he was in the yes camp prior looking like he would support it prior. it's not a pick up among those ten that were against. so we'll have to watch that. you can't have more than two to advance it. lots to do before you get to that point. if the senate can't get this bill passed and republicans are forced to meet with democrats, could that mean more spending in pet pet peter doocy would know. many democrats are eager to meet
and spend more. >> something that gets lost with the debate, democrats admit that obamacare has some problems. they just don't want to do anything close to repealing it. so a group of ten in the house have an obamacare repair. just costs a lot of money. so they have this plan. point number 1 is, a permanent $15 billion reinsurance fund that is paid for by getting rid of premium tax credits. point number 2, keep funding subsidies that would reduce the cost of copays and deductibles. point number 3, pay to keep marketing the obamacare exchanges during open enrollment. point four is more tax credits. point five, make people more eligible for medicare. this is not officially endorsed by nancy pelosi. she says she thinks it as good ideas. it's different than what bernie sanders said that he wants to introduce, single payer coverage, which would be having the government to pay for medicare for everyone.
neil? >> neil: what is interesting about this, we're talking about shades of government programs here, right? one is big. the other is maybe slightly less big. but still a lot of government spending here. >> right. then you have something like this cruz amendment where he's saying, you know, the government will let insurance companies do things differently, but again, since it's not a full repeal and so many of the taxes and so many of the other giant cumbersome expensive programs are not changed, you're right. >> neil: all right. thanks very much. we're watching this closely. among those saying that -- republicans saying that, they're try not necessarily win over the likes of bernie sander whose is no doubt hitting this republican plan hard, but they're trying to win over the more moderate democrats who think that they might go on board with a plan
that still protects medicaid as this one does. with the assurances that the taxes stay in effect for the well-to-do, they might have the makings of this. the irony in this, had they agreed going into this that they weren't going to repeal obamacare, which turns out they didn't do, they would be searching for republican senators to go along. we could talk about mandates on all of this stuff. they did not kill off obamacare. they kind of reigned it in. in the end, it is what it is. all right. senate republicans could be caving on some of these healthcare promises. so that had a lot of folks wondering about tax cuts. are they going to do the same with that? we'll be exploring that tomorrow on fox business network at 1:00 p.m. through 2:00 p.m. if it matters to you and your money, it matters to us. president trump weighing in on a report that loretta lynch
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country was approved by attorney general lynch. now maybe that's wrong. i just heard that a little while ago. a little surprised to hear that. she was here because of lynch. >> neil: all right. what kind of scrutiny will that get? what are we to make of that in the administration being targeted here because it was donald trump jr. who met with this woman, who apparently we're told was not a direct contact of the government? you know the goes, the back and forth on this. jonathan from the hill co-wrote that report. what does this mean? what are we to glean from that? that she was here and didn't have the proper paperwork or what? >> she did have the proper paperwork at the start. initially she sought a visa. it was denied. she appealed that and the justice department citing extraordinary circumstances decided to allow her into the country. she's a lawyer from russia. she was representing a russian
firm in new york district court on an asset forfeiture case. so she was allowed from october 15 through early january. we don't know what happened after that and how she was allowed to state in the country through june, which is when this explosive and controversial meeting with donald trump jr. occurred. there's questions about what she was doing in the country in between january and june, if she was here that entire time. we know in the early summer at least she was involved in lobbying on behalf of some pro russian causes. we know she met with current and former lawmakers from both parties. we know we saw her seated in the front row of a house foreign affairs committee panel on russian. >> neil: so they knew her. she was a familiar figure to both parties.
>> well, yes and no. what we found is that her temporary visa was supposed to lapse in early january. so the question is, was that extended through june? you know, for someone who pitched herself as coming here to work on behalf of this russian firm and do legal work for them, should she have registered as a foreign agent? she was participating in some lobbying on behalf of russia. she didn't keep a low profile about it, which is -- >> neil: when you say she was lobbying on behalf of russia, the russia gift or enties within russian? >> it's murky right now. she was pushing back on an act, something that is revialed by putin trying to derail the legislation or get the name changed. she was working in those records. it's the question, you know, what was she doing here, what was her formal capacity.
did she declare that when she tried to get over here and obtain the temporary visa. a lot of questions about that. >> neil: very good reporting. thanks very much. we'll monitor that closely. meantime, should special counsel robert mueller be considering any of this in his investigation? we're going to ask the guy that took the lead in the whitewater probe. we try to follow the money and the influence here and where it went with both parties. president trump is wrapping up dinner with emanuel macron. [speaking french].
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>> neil: boy president trump and emanuel macron dining at le jules verne. long before it was the big white house hot shot, john roberts was familiar with the five-star michelin hotel locals. now they're covering this. john roberts, they're still eating? >> they are, yeah. just started a short time ago. it's only 10:25 in france. restaurants go up to three michelin stars. this is a single michelin start. famous for lobster and caviar. we don't know if the president will get it with ketchup. if he were to ask for it, he would probably get it. >> neil: you follow this closely. maybe the body language and all.
this is the fourth time these guys have gotten together. each time it tends to get more bromancy. what do we glean from that? >> it does get interesting. everybody talks about the handshake. the two leaders looked like they were trying to get the upper hands. now it's smiles, hand shakes, pats on the back. that was evident in a lot of what we saw whether it was at the hotel, which is the french military museum. they went to visit the tomb of napoleon and at the palace. president trump gave emanuel macron a ride down to the palace and what is known as the beast. the presidential limousine. the two of them quite friendly with each other. president macron calls him my dear donald at one point during the press conference. while there was a lot going on
between france and the united states, some of the biggest meat in the press conference came with a question that was asked by my colleague from abc when she pointed out that the incoming fbi director should he be confirmed said if someone were to have a meeting with a russian offering information that could be damaging to somebody's chances in a presidential election, that would be somebody that the fbi would want to know. listen to how president trump answered that question about his son, donald trump jr. >> my son is a wonderful young man. he took a meeting with a russian lawyer, not a government lawyer, a russian lawyer. it was a short meeting. it was a meeting that went very, very quickly, very fast. two other people in the room. one of them left almost immediately and the other was not really focused on the meeting. i think this. i think from a practical stand
point, most people would have taken that meeting. it's called opposition research or research into your opponent. >> president trump pointed out as you mentioned in your last segment, neil, it's curious the rush attorney got into the country according to the reporting in the hill without a visa. she was allowed in by the loretta lynch department of justice under "extraordinary circumstances." there was a lot that united presidents trump and macron today. there were some things that divided them. one of the points they were united on is this idea of building a better relationship with vladimir putin of russia. president trump has been criticized by many people in europe and the united states for wanting to rebuild the relationship with russia. macron said that's what he's doing. listen here. >> i had two very long meetings with president putin.
the very first one in versilles. the relationship is very important. we have a lot of differences. a lot of discrepancies with russia. in the current environment, in the middle east, it's a necessity to work together to exchange information, to share these agreements and to try to build solutions. >> so he's saying it's a no-brainer to build a relationship with russian. the one thing they disagree on, president macron saying he can understand the decision to pull out, and president trump saying maybe there's some hope for saving it. and i love the way that the french say putin. anybody from french candy knows it's french fries topped in gravy with cheese kurds. you won't get that at that michelin star restaurant but
tastes good. >> neil: do they still put an egg on top of everything there? >> absolutely everything. i woke up after leaving my shoes outside to have them polished. there it was. >> neil: thanks, john roberts, working very hard in paris. you know, interesting weird thing with this. the fact that the president deliberately reaching out and vice versa to the french and maybe not the germans. what's going on here? >> the relationship with the germans and angela merkel has cooled down considerably. let's be honest. donald trump and emanuel macron are similar in many ways. political revolutionaries, swept away old style establishment, the pair of them when they came to power and there are some similarities. macron is a centrist. he's not a far right conservative. but compared to holland, the previous president, who was a
staunch socialist and had a disastrous time in office, mr. macron is talking about tax cuts for the wealthy, is unheard of in france. maybe some will some back from exile in russia. who knows. macron trying to loosen up the rich and labor laws in france. these are things that donald trump would agree with. on some level, they're similar. >> neil: thanks very much. some good news to report to you concerning congressman scalise out of another surgery here. talk about awkward timing. a state democratic lawmaker in maine apologizing for some very inflammatory comments threatening no less than the president of the united states. awkward. ♪
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i can't read that last word. are all the threats and impeachments going on going to backfire on democrats? we should stress these things are the exemption, hardly the rule. there's been a pattern of a couple congressmen saying let's impeach the guy, let's get hopping. it's close to treason or treasonous. are they drilling too far? sarah westwood, former hillary clinton team minute, adrian elrod and hadley manning. hadley? >> we have to talk about how the public is perceiving this. civility and politics. any threat of violence is inappropriate and people, left, right and center would condemn that. there's additional forms of protest that researchers at the university of toronto have found to be counter productive.
>> neil: it scares people. it does scare people. adrian, i know you don't support this type of talk. it does feed a narrative that democrats some, not all by any means, are getting a little too zealous and presumptive that this will happen and further more that they're looking loan opportunityists. what do you think? >> violence should not be supported on either side. that includes donald trump's rallies where there's been a lot of violence. includes this lawmaker in maine making inappropriate comments. look, to your point and impeachment, most democrats withheld from doing or saying anything on this. brad sherman just filed and article of impeachment in congress because they want to wait for more facts to come in. what we learned this week, an intent to collude with russian from donald trump jr.'s meeting with the russian attorney. the question -- >> neil: that's a big leap to
say there was an attempt to collude with the russian government. you're doing the very thing that a lot of people say oh, back up. >> that's exactly why bob mueller, his investigation -- >> neil: leave it at that then. let bob -- >> we'll see what congress decides to do with that information. >> neil: sarah, what do you think? >> democrats do risk putting themselves in a boy who cried wolf situation with this overwrought criticism to everything that comes out of the trump white house. it erodes their credibility to criticize the legitimate problems with the trump administration. that's what you've seen with the donald trump jr. e-mails. this looks bad. no spinning it. democrats have alluded to treason, they have cried impeachment. they have embraced the pop culture images in violence. when a legitimate situation arises, voters are tuning out.
>> neil: what i thought and it's odd the timing of this today, when we got news that, you know, congressman scalise underwent another surgery to treat an infection. hear he's doing okay, in fair condition. he keeps going through this stuff. timing is awkward. we thought that after that shooting that this sort of stuff would die down on both sides. it hasn't. i'm worried about that. when you have people escalating this on social media, it can easily get out of control. >> that's right. we have to be careful not to say one side does it, that's permission for the other side to do it. instead of going low together, we should go high together, this is a criticism of both sides. we have to ask with timing, the senate released a new healthcare bill today. some of the perception, as long as democrats are focused on waiting for the facts to come
out, good governance, that's one thing. be careful if you're the democratic party not looking like another effort to obstruct an agenda that you disagree with. >> neil: i will say, adrian, is there a fear that you get from some of your colleagues it's the agenda that worries you when it's all republicans putting it together and they're fighting, what is wrong if you want to be a political cynic? let these guys implode among themselves? don't help them. >> democrats won't help repeal obamacare. that's something -- >> neil: all the measures that republicans do don't repeal it. >> we're happy if we can come to the table and agree to lower the astronomical costs of healthcare that are growing and that's a problem that both sides and many americans agree needs to be lowered. >> adrian, this is much friendlier than you thought it would be. they're not repealing it.
it's still a huge government program. they're throwing more money at this than anyone can count. >> yeah. >> neil: it's hardly -- you have a perfect reason, an opportunity to help, right? >> again, we'll see what happens. they're having struggles bringing this bill to the floor for consideration; which we'll see if mitch mcconnell -- >> neil: this is basically a democratic program. i think rand paul got that light. it's obamacare light. it's not far from that. >> again, we'll see how things shake up. as a woman, i want to see planned parenthood protected. moderate senators like susan collins, lisa murkowski that are 1,000% behind what i said. we'll see. when it comes to civil discourse, we need to agree that both sides, democrats and republicans are guilty -- >> neil: they are. sarah, you're optimistic. can this pass or will it just
heat up the more investigations and accusations fly back and forth? >> that doesn't help the bill's chances of passage. republicans are feeling pressure from constituents, not to pass a bill that is deeply unpopular. they're feeling pressure with the white house missteps. puts it in peril. >> neil: thank you all very much. in the meantime, president trump is putting the pressure on his fellow republicans as he will be very angry if the senate health care effort fails. so you wonder how that pressure might be affecting some prominent republicans including mitch mcconnell. because jimmy carter also applied a lot of pressure on his closest people. in fact, the guy that helped get him elected. even in pictures he couldn't look at him. what does that say about pat goodell? he elected the guy and he wasn't intimidated. pat is here.
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they have to get it done. >> what will happen if they don't? >> i don't want to talk about it. it would be very bad. i will be very angry about it. >> neil: all right. talk about pressure from the boss. what if his poll numbers remain weak, republicans say, you know what? we're not that afraid of you. it was a phenomena that happened with jimmy carter when democrats abandoned him. the guy that got him elected in the first place stopped looking at him in all photographs. pat, good to have you here. look at this famous one here. jimmy carter saying thank you so much. what are we to glean from that experience and being intimidated? >> well, first of all about being intimidated, i have to make a confession. in this hot house environment of his national hysteria, i have to confess my 11-year-old granddaughter got a new show dog. she's 11.
the dog is from russia. it was not inexpensive. i had to collaborate with the russians to get it. it won its first junior contest. they have not summoned here to be subpoenaed yet to have won with the help of a russian. with that said, let me explain this thing with presidents. they have -- you know, it's very hard for outsiders, carters and trump, outsiders of the system, trump much more so in terms of the hostility and a divided period, but causes problems in your own party. with carter, he had more fights with the democrats. we had a huge majority. they got upset about water projects, they got upset about appointments. in the end when he cajoled them, in the end they held together.
he got about 90% of his legislative package passed, which i was stunned. >> neil: what happens, pat when pole numbers go down or the iran thing heated up with president carter. that is your currency, how popular you are and how much pressure you can exert. we're nowhere near that. depending on your point of view, at this stage. is there a sense that republicans might bristle at the pressure that the president gets? >> let me say it does because of this. first of all, you know, they are less willing to take your phone calls. they don't feel they're being pressured. it can get rough in there. you don't have the same relationships in the establishment. the republicans have a problem. democrats in the end in a crisis will band together as they did for bill clinton during the
impeachment hearings when they thought the republicans went too far. even with obamacare, even though most of those people on the hill, a lot of them couldn't stand obama. republicans are willing -- once jean mccarthy said something about liberal republicans. they shoot their own wounded. these people will drop or fall apart or flake apart. they get scared out of their jock straps by the other side. they don't understand what democrats inherently understand, which is if the president gets in trouble and gets hurt, even if we run from him, we could, too. i think they're making their situation worse. when they don't fight back, like the stuff going on right now, they should be all over the clinton connections, the ukrainian dealings with the hillary campaign. >> neil: they're not. what does that tell you they're not doing that? >> they're not because they don't -- because they don't -- a
lot of them don't like trump. a lot of them support him. but they're afraid, he's going to go it in trouble. what they don't understand, they're in the same pot with him whether they like it or not. >> neil: very good point. >> they all need to defend their own interests. as i say, all democrats know this. republicans are easy to spook. they will not stand and fight the way democrats do when they feel threatened. >> neil: that's the case as of late. pat, good seeing you. thank you so much. happy to hear about the gift for your grandchild. you be good. >> upcoming subpoenas. >> neil: yes. thanks, pat. if any of these things that republicans are reigning in an entitlement, let's say think again. maybe that is the problem. after this. ♪ ♪
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>> neil: former republican senator of south carolina joins us. good to have you. worried about this measure, not so much whether it passes or not, senator, the fact that it's only slightly less government health care program and the one we already have. >> millions of conservatives all over the country are very concerned. for eight years, republicans have promised to repeal obamacare and improve our health care system, make it more affordable and available. they won the house, senate, and the white house, and it seems they're having trouble fulfilling the promise. this could be the biggest failure to fulfill a promise, political promise, that we've ever had in this country. i am as concerned as you are and i hope the republicans in congress can either repeal it as they promised or come at the very least, create a situation where individuals can opt out
and states can create a market where private insurance policies can survive. >> neil: i don't know if that's going to happen. this process, you know it well. the one thing that's the most striking about this is that key taxes are kept in it. medicaid, while it slows, still gets a lot bigger. it isn't a repudiation of the affordable care act. there are some market provisions but it's still a big old government program and i'm wondering what happened to republicans. or is this better than nothing? beats having nothing and then not getting anything done. >> even if republicans don't do anything, they are going to get blamed for obamacare as it collapses over the next year or two. democrats are going to say they didn't find it, didn't put the money into medicaid. they cannot escape this. it's almost a lose-lose situation. republicans need to do with a promise, and that is repeal it. >> neil: they don't agree on
that they fail at this, you know the fear. they don't get the tax thing done. >> i think this is going to get -- it's going to hurt their agenda. your previous guests was saying they can't run from it. all republicans, moderate or conservative, the failure to valve's promise is going to be a very damaging thing to the party. i do believe that if they cannot do what they promised, at the very least, again, we need to keep a private insurance market going, allow states to create a better situation so that over time, as we are doing with the education and other issues at the state level, we can see how to do this right. but if they don't adopt the cruz-lee amendment or something like it, we're going to have a single-payer system. >> neil: thank you very much. i always appreciated.
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>> neil: they are still talking in the stomach, and markets are kind of okay with all of this. in record territory. they are not worried. should you be? >> eric: i am eric bolling with eboni k. williams and kat timpf and we are "the fox news specialists" ." president trump comes out swinging in paris, defending his son donald trump, jr. over his meeting with russian lawyers natalia veselnitskaya. >> i think from a practical standpoint, most people would've taken that meeting. it's called opposition research or even research into your opponents. i've only been in politics for two years but i've had many people call up. we have information on this factor or this