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all right? that's what we call an exciting open. speaking of exciting, connell mcshane on what happened. >> yeah, it's an interesting day, a fun story to watch. we're here in amazon square where the stock price trades. that's what this is about, the stock price. when it was running up as it had been, from bezos was able to pass mr. gates. take a look at a chart of amazon. from the beginning of the year till now, it's up 40%. really been on a tear, has amazon. from some perspective, if you took 1,000 when amazon first started trading publicly in 1997, $1,000, put it in amazon, that $1,000 would be worth $530,000. that tells you the type of run it's been for amazon and why mr. bezos is a rich man. mr. gates taking over again by the end of the day. when the headline crossed everywhere today we had a new
richest man in the world, we took to the streets and started talking to people about it. you run into all kinds of people in new york and the united states as far as hawaii. but some other countries as well. israel, india, scotland. we met up with them today. they all new amazon, all used amazon. as for mr. bezos, you'll see. we had some fun. >> you know who that is? >> on the left, me. >> on the right? >> bill gates. >> who is the other guy? >> i'm not sure. >> that's bill gates. the other gentleman -- >> bezos? >> bezos. he's got it. >> bill gates. jeff bezos. >> you know who this is? >> dean caputo. >> close. who has the most money of these three people? >> i'd say him. >> why? >> he looks younger.
he just look successful. >> jeff. he just passed bill gates. >> what do you think of that? >> amazon is taking over the world. >> that's the guy on -- i love him on the weekend show on fox. not bret baier. >> you like cavuto? >> i don't know. >> i feel the same way. >> so you see we learned a lot, neil, in talking about jeff bezos, bill gates and the dean caputo. i'm sure you assigned me the story. >> thank you, carl. connell mcshale. and connell says you know the company, you know the brand but a lot of people don't know the guy. over these many, many years that he's had amazon,'s always been intrigued by jeff bezos and how he was building this fortune, long before the time it was anything like the fortune it is today. let's go back in time with the man that is now on the verge of being the world's richest.
>> we've gotten efficient enough to drive prices low. that's a big part of what is driving our growth today. >> do you use your site? >> in fact, some people would accuse me of having kind of an addiction. yeah, i've got boxes coming every day. >> every stitch of clothing i'm wearing now was purchased from our new apparel store, including my hanes t-shirt and eddie bauer -- >> we've goes from $3.50 to $10 today. the problem is we want via 100. >> i remember that by people. >> yes. >> a lot of people are getting up hope that you'll get back to those levels. what do you say? >> what i say to those folks, we are not focused on trying to predict our stock price at any moment in time. we don't know when or if or how
it's going to work out in that regard. what we do know is that we are well on our way to building a darn good company. >> neil: all right. jeff bezos over the years. you can see the advance certainly in the stock. he has 80 million shares of amazon stock. when you do the math, just this year he made $24 billion on the stock. you can see in that point back in 2001, the stock had gotten as hi as 100, fell to under $10 a share and a lot of people were sinking his death, including this reporter. the fact is that it went up and up and up. the analyst community said this is going nowhere fast. he stuck to that vision. keep in mind, it was 22 years ago, long before it went public that he was shipping books out of his garage and couldn't find enough people to help him out. he promised them incentives. maybe i'll give you a stake in my company. very few took him up on the
offer. the ones that did are billionaires including jeff bezos. we have charlie gasparino, heather and jonas. so jonas, this climb, you know, we're going to get more numbers out of amazon in the latest quarter, but it's been largely uninterrupted in the last couple years. it has its hiccups. he never lost sight of that or the preachings and the analyst community that hey, you're pouring too much money in this business and not making it back. how did this come to pass? >> it is an amazing story. more of revenue growth than earnings growth. amazon never earned a fraction of microsoft. microsoft is a company wall street loved because it dealt a monopolies and fast-growing areas like pcs and office software and made a fortune. once that stock came down as you alluded to after the 2000 boom,
this was a company that people wrote off. $10 a share, over $1,000 now. it was you're never going to make money, e-commerce, low margin. but the growth is outstanding. microsoft has taken off the last few years after going nowhere for many years. so it's an amazing story. now everyone has piled on and no one doubts him, again, it's no microsoft earnings machine. >> neil: when i was looking at it, a lot of people said whether he makes it today, it's just a matter of time because the growth and trajectory of amazon is much more than microsoft, which is a more traditional software company. i know getting into other facets, i don't mean to dismiss it. the growth prospects are staggering. but with that comes the scrutiny of government. what do you make of that? >> it is. the stock market has helped propel all of these men to
higher brackets of wealth. and i think it is the -- the government is in play because a lot of people are going to want to tear them down. we wanted to destroy the rich to help the poor. that is not really what happens. if you think of finance or econ 101 and the velocity of money, the easier it is for goods and services to be transferred ie less regulation from one party to another, you'll see the flow of goods and services and an uptick in velocity and transfer of wealth, of money. it doesn't come from increased regulation. that's not where it comes from. >> neil: all right. we should say with early numbers out in the latest quarter, the stock is falling after hours missing key growth metrics out there. we'll get into the details shortly. that's the pressure put on a company that has run up so far so fast. so how in the course of this nasdaq run dominated by amazon and apple and alphabet, a google
parent, how sustainable is that, if these are the guys leading it exclusively? >> right. i'm probably the oldest person here except for you. i do remember covering amazon in the bubble years. the analysts got in trouble allegedly hyping the stock and -- >> neil: i remember that. >> in 1989, 98 before it came down again. amazon is the ultimate momentum stock. let's not get ahead of ourselves. it will run up with the momentum of the markets. it leads the momentum of the markets up but pulls back. >> neil: and pulls back mightily. very volatile. >> you pointed it out. hit it on the head. ultimately stock prices reflect earnings growth. they may have great growth in the future. the reason why, microsoft performed and made money.
amazon will have to do this. what i like about jeff bezos, why we tip our hat to him, he's a great entrepreneur, yes and also not afraid to take risks. he bought "the washington post." he's looking for the future. he had to do this stuff, take the losses on certain items, integrated into a broader model and have this stuff that makes money carried to the future. at some point, wall street asks to show us the money. i will be really careful with this stock. it's a momentum play. >> as well defines rich. bill gates may have helped bezos get this close because he's been giving so much of his stock away, right? he and warren buffet, a big fan of the bill and melinda gates foundation. he could be taking issue as tough table. >> and bezos doesn't have as big as philanthropic efforts as bill gates and the bill and melinda gates foundation. it's all dependent on the stock
market right now. it's going to be dependent on people moving money, continuous little to the markets in order forest specially bezos to outpace gates. >> also who has more cash? listen, i mean, we're talking gazilli gazillionares, here. >> you're one, charlie. >> microsoft throws off a ton of cash and he has a ton of cash. that's the separation here. bezos, not taking anything away from him since we're horse racing this, has done this on the momentum of the stock. if you look at who has more cash, it would be gates. >> neil: i will take away one thing, jonas, if you look at the high tech performers -- amazon is getting knocked around with the disappointing earnings report right now, but i will say
between amazon and microsoft, facebook and alphabet, you have all-american companies leading this charge. we go back and forth and bash this country, we're not what we were. but all of these companies, their founders, present ceos believe in that and in the case of apple, now expanding production through foxconn to build more iphones in the u.s. there's the american technology here as well. >> and this whole starting your company out of a garage and becoming a billion dollars is an american thing -- >> neil: they all start out of their garage. very few out of a basement. >> i don't want to bash bezos. running software code in your garage -- nobody will bank on the book guy. a hard thing to pull off in merchandising in this circle.
>> but he did it. >> it's an amazing story of e-commerce if not software engineering. >> one other country that gets this, where the opportunity exists, it's china. look at jack. started it out of his apartment. >> that's true. away we go. >> you're not the only place. >> you're right. you're anti-american, charlie. >> of course. >> he provides that perspective that we need. seriously, guys. thanks very much. just to review, some disappointing numbers out of amazon after the bell. of course, this was key for success. briefly jeff bezos passing bill gates as the world's richest man. after hours trading, gates is back and widening. but remember the gap was more like $30 billion and the roughly $1 billion it is right now. and that comer from behind, mark zuckerberg who isn't that far away and very close to passing
warren buffet. american brings all. the dow with all of these cross currents closing at an all-time high. we'll have all that market reaction to the earnings tomorrow and all these tech guys that some have been saying they're worried about it. all the guys, all the stocks have climbed. meanwhile, president trump already plotting a replacement for jeff sessions? ♪ backpack, check. that's the family taking care of business. awesome notebook! check. but who takes care of them? office depot / office max. this week, these composition books are just 25 cents each. ♪ taking care of business your insurance on time. tap one little bumper, and up go your rates. what good is having insurance if you get punished for using it? news flash: nobody's perfect. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise your rates due to your first accident. switch and you could save $782 on home and auto insurance.
>> talk about a rival by storm. anthony scaramucci finding that he's starting fights with a lot of folks. the darndest folks. kevin corke at the white house. >> listen, this is like the ultimate game of intrigue. let's take you to a tweet. if you haven't had a chance to watch it, busy tracking the market, up there working hard on wall street, let me take you through the latest here at the white house. here's the back story.
anthony scaramucci is the white house communications director and felt like some material had been leaked by someone on the inside. we're talking about his personal financial disclosure form and felt like it was leaked to politco. so he took the twitter and tweeted this. "in light of the leak of my financial disclosure info, which is a felony, i will contact the fbi and the justice department and #swamp@reince45. that's reince priebus. later he tweeted this. wrong! tweet was public notice to the leaker that all senior administration officials are helping to end illegal leaks. now it's no secret these two men have different perspectives to the white house. as someone said to me off record, they're not grilling buddies. still, it's been suggested that if priebus was the leaker, this would be another major
distraction for the white house. >> he's making clear that even though these documents are eventually precurable publicly, that somebody doesn't want him here. somebody is trying to get in his way and scare him off from working here, which is a huge mistake. >> for the record, the reporter said it's public information, it's available. it's not a leak. either way, this is yet another distraction to the white house that could use a break right now but won't be getting one any time soon. >> neil: i have an idea. thanks, kevin. the "washington post" is reporting that the president could be considering a recess appointment to replace jeff sessions. gregg jarrett on that rather dicey approach. greg? >> if you look at the rules of the senate, the democrats who are threatening to block any recess appointment could try to
do it but likely wouldn't succeed. they can try the filibuster, but the republicans can change it to a straight up or down vote. president trump's problem may be that if his attorney general leaves, sessions has a lot of friends in the u.s. senate. and some republicans might side with the democrats forcing what is called a pro forma session. everybody leaves town except for one guy that walks in and bangs the gavel. the u.s. supreme court has said sorry, you can't make a recess appoint meant during a pro forma session. it's a can of worms if he tries to a recess appointment. >> neil: what if he did and found a way around that or they end up being in recess more than three days, let something slip -- >> then he could do it. >> neil: then there's the danger to ask that guy or woman to start firing people like mueller. then you're inviting real problems. >> his better course of action
is don't make a recess appointment. name someone as acting attorney general. it would be rod rosenstein who is deeply conflicted and ought to recuse himself. the betting money is rachel bade at the d.o.j., already confirmed, a rock-hard and respected republican lawyer. she be authorized to rein in robert mueller to the directive that is expressed to look into russian meddling and any links to the trump campaign. >> neil: that sounds like a richard nixon -- >> no, no, no. not at all. especially in sessions were to decide i've had enough pressure, the president doesn't have confidence in me, i'm going to resign. then you have to make an appointment -- >> neil: i'm talking about firing mueller. >> pardon me? >> neil: if he went to fire mueller. that's another thing. >> if you fire mueller, yeah,
saturday night massacre, a political quagmire. >> neil: thanks. jeff sessions will be with tucker carlson tonight. we'll get a sense of how he's feeling a lot more. more after this. no, please, please, oh! ♪ (shrieks in terror) (heavy breathing and snorting) no, no. the running of the bulldogs? surprising. what's not surprising? how much money aleia saved by switching to geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more.
>> neil: where is this going, this investigation? >> we requested documents yesterday in the judiciary committee and filed a resolution calling for a special counsel. james comey asked the right questions. he said why would i do that? why would the attorney general instruct the fbi director to call in an investigation? he's not the director of the federal bureaus of matters. he complied. he said willingly, knowingly intentionally misled the american people. why? because they tried to help clinton win. >> neil: some democrats have said this is the republican's
way of postponing problems for president trump and any russian collusion. the republicans feel differently by calling james comey and the former attorney general loretta lynch, they can get into how much they knew or were trying to help hillary clinton get elected as president to the united states. molly hemingway on where this is going. what do you think, molly? >> this is still related to russia. it's worth remembering the only actual crime in this whole russia-related thing that we've seen evidence of is the leaking of criminal classified information. james comey admitted to being a leaker. he leaked government documents to seek vengeance for his firing. somebody that did that might have answers to other leaks that happened at the same time. there's the issue of how the fib handled the russian dossier. we have word that they were paying or trying to pay the people that created that opposition research document. we have word that they used that
russian dossier to seek a fisa warrant against an american citizen. if that is true, that is scandalous behavior. >> neil: depending on the media, good luck getting anything approaching equal treatment, although there's a lot of questions to be asked here. what i'm asking you, how much traction this particular investigation would gain? >> well, again, if people are interested in finding out the truth about the whole russia operation, people had thought one way about that dossier, now learning the group that produced it is itself russia funded. they were involved with this other meeting that took place at trump tower. there's just so much that needs to be learned. if people really want to know about it, they should investigate it fully. of course, it's worth remembering that what the media are interested in is and in fact in some cases should be different than what law enforcement officers are interested in. it's very hard to get federal law enforcement authorities to
investigate law breaking by their own fbi-type people. where the media can help, it's important for the country to have confidence in fbi and law enforcement. there's so much reason under the comey era to lose trust in that. >> neil: you're right about that. one thing that stuck in my mind, molly, after loretta lynch said this is a matter, not an investigation, the next question i had, why did comey just go along with that? a matter it is. >> even on that it's important to remember that comey always presets himself as the hero of every story. people don't like loretta lynch but she says he asked her for the meeting. he asked her how to talk about it with the concern being that they never confirm or deny whether an investigation is taking place. she said he asked if he had a problem with the phrasing. he said no. it's good when comey is telling a story to get all sides. that's true even with very partisan people like loretta lynch.
>> neil: so her concern was using the word was explosive? if it was very important to him, he would have said a matter, sort of relegates it to not important. but he didn't. >> right. time to address the issue is when someone asked him, if we believe loretta lynch here, the time would be to ask him if he had a problem with it. it's a part of a pattern of storytelling by james comey. he always comes out as the hero. as we have learned, for someone claims not to be leaking, he does a very good job with it. since leaking is a main issue of concern here and in fact could be a matter of law breaking, that needs to be investigated. it's true even though he's out of his position now. >> neil: hillary clinton is writing a book where she talks about this and resurrects the comey thing, the russian thing. sounds like she's not letting go. but i'm going sight unseen here. what is your sense? >> right. again, hillary clinton lost because of who she was as a candidate. she does have a legitimate
complaint about how that investigation was handles. even in so far as the way that comey said she was guilty of everything she did but she wouldn't face prosecution. that was unfair to her. it left it in the hands of the people to hold her accountable for what she had done. we have these systems of law to go through these things in a fair matter so everybody gets to have their side of the story told. he basically convicted her in that press conference but let her get off scot-free. i don't think it helped her as much as he thought it was. >> neil: molly, thanks very much. the name of the book is called "what happened." hillary clinton trying to finally put the kabash on everything. president trump continuing to slam his attorney general for now. what the rnc chair ronna mcdaniel told me yesterday that has a lot of you speaking out. this is a story about mail and packages.
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>> well, he's letting him know he's not happy. i'm sure there's things he's happy with, too. jeff sessions will look into the leaks -- >> neil: are you surprised, ronna, that sessions hasn't quit? >> i don't know the back and forth between the white house. frankly, this isn't surprising with the president. i like -- if he says hey, i don't like what you're doing -- >> neil: but tell me to my face. don't tweet it to the world. tell me to my face. >> neil: all right. rnc chair ronna mcdaniel defending the president's attacks on jeff sessions. some of you say the attacks are for show. potus and jeff sessions are laughing their ass off. the media just does not get president trump. the media isn't the issue here as much as whether this is distracting from his agenda and it's not a good way to treat
people. i'm gullible, never a trumper. globalist. are you referring to my waist line? we have patrice lee, let's begin with you. this is a legitimate issue. it's an issue that cuts across party lines. i just don't think jeff bezos is being tweeted well. you don't like the -- jeff sessions. i apologize. i'm focused on the other guys. if you don't like him, you appoint him, you can get rid of him. dragging him out, not good. what do you think? >> it's pretty tough to be jeff sessions right now. he has a lot of support on capitol hill as we know. what is interesting, he doesn't have a lot of support among the regular americans. 37% of americans, you know, like the job he's doing and like him in office. >> neil: who? sessions or the president? >> jeff sessions. >> neil: that's roughly the same numbers for the president.
>> they're in the same boat together. this is a distraction to what the administration is trying to accomplish. a lot of americans want to see it happen. >> neil: okay. judy, my point is it's a distraction that is self-made. i'm not saying you run across cabinet officials that disappoint. but this is something unlike i've ever seen. >> you're right, neil. it's unprecedented to be attacking a cabinet official this way. some viewers think this is a manipulation by president trump. he's been known to steer the conversation -- >> neil: yeah, it's a clever strategy to get us to stop talking about donald trump jr. a big hurdle there. >> that's not what this is. president trump is genuinely mad. he blames jeff sessions for a lot of the russia investigation. president trump is also in a bit of a pickle. might make a good plot line for
"the apprentice" but he doesn't what tonight to fire a lot of law enforcement officials. >> neil: if he were to force him out and the guy quits and maybe jeff sessions will give us an inkling tonight when he talks to tucker carlson, but i get the feeling he's humiliated. say what you will, he was a loyal friend to the president, one of his earliest. he made instrumental differences with his early backing in february of 2016. so he deserves better. this is where i'm coming from. it's not a party line here. he deserves better. what about you? >> absolutely. he deserves more than this. he was an early supporter. he indicated today, he's digging his heels in. he's not quitting. how appropriate is it today that the white house just had this ceremony honoring first responders because i think that this presidentsy right now could you some cpr. donald trump is his own worst enemy. if he fires jeff sessions, it's
going to be really bad optics for his presidency. >> neil: the question becomes in that scenario, how you have an interim replacement, with the way they're doing, the senate is not in recess. leaving that aside, i'm wondering about the collateral damage. many say by talking about this, we're talking less about donald trump jr. and jared kushner but also talking less how the president scored a victory on this procedural vote where we're getting little mention, not on this show, but little mention of the markets continued run-up and the wealth for americans, the job thing. foxconn committing to thousands of workers in wisconsin. that's also what the obsession is doing. >> yeah. when you consider that the air has been sucked out of the room and media attention is diverted to so many different directions, that americans are thinking what is going on with this administration.
i also want to add to your list, neil, the government overreach that has been scaled back because of the regulatory reform and we're expecting in the next month or so, a soup to nuts report from every federal agency on all the waste and the fraud -- >> that's why these are all encouraging developments. i'm looking at them. i know you say president trump hasn't den good. but he has. his own fixation is hurting his good. >> it is. >> he's venting -- sorry to interrupt. he talks to "the new york times," the "wall street journal," talks in press conferences on camera about his -- how upset he is -- >> neil: so robin, what do you make of that? >> he's wearing his emotions on hi sleeve. >> americans love drama. >> neil: we do not like drama. >> he's giving them what they want. >> neil: thanks. good sports all of you.
those of you that are nasty, send them to hannity at foxnews.com. meantime, we're getting interesting developments. the vice president is coming to the capitol later tonight to cast a tie-breaking vote. they must be calibrating the possibility that they're going to come up with that skinny repeal bill on healthcare for which they will need the vice president to make a tie. that's my quick read on this. the vice president will be up on capitol hill after midnight to cast a potential tie-breaking vote. we'll have more after this.
>> is there anything that they could do to get you on board with the plan as you best understand it? >> i think i have a pretty good track record of being an independent thinker and making sure that my state's interests are represented. growing to do just that. >> what do you think about what the administration officials have reportedly said. >> if they're true, they're very
disturbing. >> neil: those two republican senators were among those that opposed this procedural vote that was broken by the vice president of the united states. the administration, particularly the president, not too happy with them sort of bucking the party line here. doug is here on the pressure that can and is often applied to those that go astray. doug, good to have you here. we're told senator murkowski got a call from someone at the interior department, i think, the secretary, presumably reminding her about the funds that come from the federal government to alaska. i don't know if it was that blatant. what do you make of that? >> yeah, that's nothing new. l.b.j. was a master jaw boning, it was called. he was a bully. he would plead, he would harass. he would threaten. many -- abraham lincoln did. many great presidents did. >> neil: i'm glad you point this out.
this is not unique to this administration. barack obama was good at twisting arms. and bill clinton did it. i guess how it's done. sometimes it's subtle, sometimes not so much. >> not so much. donald trump, once again, channelling andrew jackson who was at war with the media, at war with his own cabinet and at war with his senate. the senate got so tired of him mouthing off that they censured him and he was the first president that the senate actually blocked one of his own cabinet officers, wouldn't approve it. they did it to one of his ambassador appointments. that made jackson mad, so he took that would-be ambassador under the ticket with him when he ran for re-election and became the eighth president of the united states, martin van buren. you just couldn't win with andrew jackson. >> neil: amazing. one of the things i ask about with this stuff, we're so
startled about donald trump and in your face. you mentioned this with andrew jackson with his own cabinet. but jackson had a pretty successful presidency, you'd agree with that. how do you think this is going? it's a bumpy six months. that's an understatement. >> i don't know. andrew jackson landed on his feet. he had the war with his own cabinet. he started meeting with informal advisers in the back room of the white house. it leaked. they called it the kitchen cabinet. they said this is unconstitutional, this is outrageous. every president has had a kitchen cabinet since. there's no guarantees here. it didn't work for lyndon johnson. he became isolated from the people. you can brow beat the senate and the cabinet. if you lose the people, you lose. jackson hung on to the popular people. if donald trump can hang on to that base, maybe he can make it, too. >> neil: and i think abraham
lincoln said the end justifies the means. right? >> he had a tough time. he was dealing with a lot. he was walking a high wire. he pushed to the edge constitutionally. it was a tough time. >> neil: all right. does it change votes in the end? yes, they can change votes. those senators can act very brave. they got to count their beads. >> exactly. oh, that federal funding. all right. doug, you're the best. thanks very much. presidential historian extraordinaire. the republican healthcare bill is heading into its final stretch. now the republicans are calling on the vice president to come to the capitol after midnight just in case there is a vote. we need you to break a tie. that seems to indicate that might be making progress on something called a skinny repeal bill.
>> neil: all right. big news going on in the capitol right now. chad pergram who is a big deal now, his people have people. he has a large following. chad, what the heck is going on with this talk of the vice president they want in there just in case for a tie-breaking vote after midnight? >> right. we're thinking it's a tight vote no matter what. vice president pence is expected to be on call to come to the capitol to break a tie like he did a couple days ago. here's the other interesting thing, neil. they're on 20 hours of total debate on the healthcare bill. that's who is allotted.
that will expire around 8:00, 8:30. we thought around 1:00 or 2:00, we might get more information on the voterama, the lengthy series of votes that would culminate with a final vote would start. we don't have anymore information on that. what that tells us is this. they don't have the votes. if they would have the votes and they knew what the plan was and if everything was in concrete and etched in stone, they would forge ahead. the fact that they're maximizing their time and drawing this out says a lot. >> neil: what would it mean for a skinny repeal, as they call it, one that would take away the requirement you have to buy healthcare, maybe get rid of the medical device tax. is it your sense that by calling in the vice president that that is the fall-back they envision and that there's at least 50-50 support for that or what? >> we were told earlier by roy blunt, republican senator from missouri that he thought about
half the conference was for that. so you know, depends on what form this takes. people still want to see a final piece of paper. we don't have a definitive final piece of paper. susan collins said when are we going to see this? at 3:00 a.m.? that's why we'll have this all-night session of vote after vote after vote. they have not had a voterama since january in the session. this will take quite a while here. peach will be catching cat naps and maybe trying to sneak a few wings on some cots here. there's senate cots that they roll out. we haven't seen them today but they have rolled them out before, neil. >> neil: the vice president has an elaborate office there. i assume he has a bed there. what do we know? >> we don't know. he has a separate office on the capitol and the house side. he might know when they're going to get to when the roll call vote is and they bring him up to the capitol.
it's a few minutes drive. he know the vote will happen sometime after midnight. the way it's looking, the fact they haven't started and we don't have more intelligence to when it might start, it's probably going to be later. this might be a crack of dawn type of vote instead of the mitch of the night witching hour vote. >> it's not a give me even with the vice president there on stand by to support? >> right. i talked to john mccain, republican senator from arizona earlier. he said he was certainly not for what was being proposed right now. lindsey graham and a couple of others along with mccain are trying to put together an alternative plan. again, when you look at the vote that they took tuesday, 50-50. that shows that they don't have a lot of turning radius. if it took you 50-50 to get on the bill, let's debate it, the devil is always in the details. people want to see the details. they don't have them yet. >> neil: amazing. as are you, chad. chad pergram is the best. the fall out from that after
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>> neil: all right. everyone wants to know what the heck is jeff sessions thinking. he is sort of like a piñata every day with the president blasting him. wouldn't you know he caught up with our tucker carlson. take a gander at what the two had to discuss. >> you've seen the president's criticism of you. do you think it's fair? >> well, it kind of is hurtful. but the president of the united states is a strong leader. he is determined to move this country in the direction he believes it needs to go to make us great again. he has had a lot of criticisms, and he's steadfastly determined to get his job done. he wants all of us to do our job. that's what i intend to do. >> neil: all right. at first i wonder where he is. apparently el salvador.
that interview, that should be great with tucker, the embattled attorney general of the united states goes one-on-one. you have an inkling there how he feels about this. not too happy. we'll see you tomorrow. >> hello, everyone. i'm kat and eric and eboni. this is "the fox news specialists." a show down over leaks at the white house heats up as newly appointed white house communications director anthony scaramucci shakes things up and calling out reince priebus for calling out his unauthorized release of his finances. >> i don't like the