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then tucker carlson will be on with the attorney general jeff sessions from el salvador. thanks for inviting us a deer home tonight. that's it for this "special report" from the white house. fair, balanced, and unafraid. stick with fox news for the latest. >> we all come and have a chance to voice those ideas, voice those perspectives, and have a lot of healthy competition. with that competition you usually get the best results. the president like that type of competition, and encourages it. >> martha: breaking tonight, the president "likes that kind of competition," in a moment the press secretary will be her to explain that comment and also to to respond to a profanity laced tirade that was given by her new boss. he has put out another tweet to try to explain that. that's anthony scaramucci, and that is our top score tonight. it all started last night, when politico published an article
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in a now deleted tweet he wrote this. "in light of the leaks of i comic my financial disclosure, i will be contacting the fbi." it turns out that the information that was reported was public. it was not leaked. it sent to him quickly backtracking on that and he tweeted this. "wrong! public notice that leakers are helping to end illegal leaks!" and we move forward to what happened this morning. the white house medications director called into cnn to try to clear all of that up. but the interview did little more than throw more gasoline on what turned out to be a pretty raging fire already. listen to this. >> we've had odds, with heads differences. when i said we were brothers from the podium, that's because we are rough on each other. some brothers are like cain and abel. other brothers can fight with each other and then get along.
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i don't know if this is repairable or not, that will be up to the president. >> martha: all right. in the last couple of hours, it got a whole lot more interesting. during mina, has press secretary sarah huckabee sanders. good evening to you. never a dull moment at the white house. i think everybody who has had a chance to read through these comments from a conversation that anthony scaramucci had with ryan at the new yorker, it's a jaw dropper. the language in there is unbelievable. >> i'm sorry, martha, just the last second. can you repeat the question? >> martha: absolute. the article that came out that came out in the new yorker that detailed his conversation with anthony scaramucci who is going to be the communications director at the white house, has language in it that the that thickest jaw-dropping and really and really shocked a lot of people. he's put out a statement about that. what's your response to a? >> i think he put out a statement just moments ago, and
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stated that this is a guy who sometimes uses colorful and in many circles probably not appropriate language. he's very passionate about the president and the president's agenda, and i think he may let the cap best of them. >> martha: i just want to put up one of these quotes, some of them i have to say we can't really put up on the screen at all. he's going after the commune occasions department, because ryan lizza tells him that he understood that certain individuals were having a dinner at the white house, and he recorded that. according to ryan lizza's story, mr. scaramucci gave him a call and said why do you even know this? how do you know about this private dinner that's happening at the white house? he says they will all be fired by me. i fired one guy the other day, i have three to four people i will follow tomorrow. reince priebus, if you want to lick something, he will be asked to resign very shortly. he is a blinking paranoid schizophrenic. this is revelatory of what's
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going on in the white house. i think american citizens look at that and say "gee, is the business a priority or is that the animus that exists between these two coindividuals? ">> business is absolutely the priority. i think anthony is put something of this. at the white house we are focused on who has a job, that's what we're trying to put forward on the agenda. this is a big day today legislatively. we have the health care vote later tonight. border wall that came out of the house appropriations. we've got russia sanctions bill that just passed. we are focused on the agenda, moving forward, and sometimes people in the staff get pretty passionate about that. hopefully, they'll reel some of their language in. again, i'm very focused. i know the president's very focused, and his team is on pushing his agenda forward. >> martha: we had anthony scaramucci on the show many times, and i think everybody think she's affable, some come out on the podium the first time
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around, and has done a lot at the white house would be happy about. the past 48 hours has been about this fight that is going on between these two men. it does bring a question whether or not that's an effective communicator. >> look, again, i think sometimes we have a lot of passion. not just passion for the president and the agenda, but sometimes when you have the best people from around the country coming in with a variety of backgrounds, very different perspectives, you may not agree on everything. i think we have to push forward and that's exactly what we are doing. we are focused on health care, that will be a big thing over the next several hours. we are very committed to making sure we repeal and replace obamacare. that's going to be taking place later tonight. let's win a majority of our staff -- >> martha: believe me, i have a list of questions that are policy oriented that got not to lower when this news happened. that's my point. it steps on the message. in terms of what's going on out
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there. i would imagine from now on, when it starts a conversation, he will say this is off the record, because we all know that's how it works. unfortunately that wasn't said in that particular conversation. >> martha, i don't think just because a comment is made, it takes about 30 seconds to make a statement like that. there's a lot more hours in the day and this isn't something that is all consuming for us or for our staff. the press and the media may make this the focal point of their day, but we are in the making it the focal point of ours. we are moving forward. tonight, huge health care vote. we get a lot of people in the building that are working really hard to make sure that happens. >> martha: i'm sure you do. as i say, that is the interest of the american people. i just want to put one more comment up on the screen, because you guys have to deal with your own internal affairs. the staff, the people that work at the white house who serve the american people, which we all know is a huge privilege. i know you've said that, sarah, and i know that's what you feel. but this person is quoted, works
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in the white house, said this is getting out of hand. i'm getting concerned for my safety in the office tomorrow. this type of behavior is unbelievable. working in the white house, something like that it's sad, it's a disgrace. what are you guys saying to the other staffers who may now be -- have a lot of fear based on these comments that they might not have their jobs tomorrow? is that a reality for them? >> look, i think the people in this building, we should be focused on who has a job and the rest of the country, not who has a job in the building behind me. that is the focus of the president, that's the focus that i have, and we are working every day to build the economy, get regulations out of the way so that we have a better environment for job creation. in terms of people's safety, i certainly hit that time he feels that way, but i've worked with an incredible team over the last six months. we have a great group of people. i love coming to work every day. i consider it a privilege and i certainly feel very safe in the building and happy to be here. >> martha: i do want to be --
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get to some of these other topics. in terms of jeff sessions, who was interviewed by tucker carlson tonight, he said he found the language hurtful, that the president had said in speaking about a pit he said he intends to stay in his job. his jeff sessions -- does he have that assurance from the white house? as he spoke to the president, and if not when you expect that they will speak? >> i'm not aware if they've had a conversation today. as i've said earlier, and said many times this week, the president obviously is disappointed that he chose to recuse himself. but the president also wanted him to go ahead and do his job. he wants them to get tough on intelligence leaks. he wants them to crack down on immigration which they've done. we've spent a great deal of time talking about today and the president will do so tomorrow in long island. these are big, important issues. the attorney general needs to be focused on that and we hope he is. >> martha: as we said, he's addressing the ms-13 threats right now, and the presidents were to be talking about that tomorrow. his quote was, "if you estimate
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a change he has that right. "he's essentially saying that he plans to stay there unless the president of the nine states personally asked him to leave. what do you think about that? >> that's how every individual in this building is. we serve at the pleasure of the present. if at any point that changes, he should certainly make that decision. he hasn't, and so therefore we continue to go and do our jobs. look, i've said it three or four times, i'm focused on who has a job outside of this building, not those of us that have them in here. i think that's the attitude of every employee. we are focused on promoting the president's agenda, and that's what we are going to doing. >> martha: in terms of the chief of staff position. just one more employment issue at the white house. there's the big question about whether or not reince priebus will leave, and we are privy to a lot of the heat that exists for right now. what kind of status update can you give us on him, because
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senior official said this morning that he is gone. >> i saw him in the building a few minutes ago. he's in there working on the health care bill that is going forth tonight. so i don't have anything other than the fact that we are all putting our heads down, working on getting things done. he's part of that team as of right now and that's what we are doing. >> martha: in terms of health care, there are three senators who said tonight that they will block this skinny bill if it goes through. and doesn't receive the kind of legislative process that they think it should receive. does the president agree with that? what does message to them tonight? >> the same one that we've had since day one of coming into office. we need to repeal and replace obamacare with health care that works for america. that's what we are pushing forward. we hope that the senate and the house can get together on that. these guys have been talking about it for seven years.
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temp then they come together and get the job done. this is part of the process, they are taking tonight. we hope we can pass and we can move forward from here. >> martha: there's a number of fronts where it looks like the president is getting a lot of pushback. one of them is on this health care bill. another has to do with jeff sessions. lindsey graham, who i know has had a good relationship with the president over the course of the last several months, said in very strong language said it's the president tries to nudge sessions out or fire sessions, we are not going to move forward with any effort to replace him. grassley said the same thing. they're putting it on the record as saying he is your attorney general, mr. president, and if you try to sneak another way around that, we will block you at every turn. in fact, lindsey graham use the language that it what you eat the end of the trump presidency. >> i think senator graham has a pretty heavy lift and he should probably stay focused on his job and getting some of the things done in health care and not worry so much about other peopl
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people. he's got a big job to do tonight, and hopefully he gets it done. >> martha: would you say to the senators tonight, it appears that jeff sessions job is safe? what messages the president saying with regard to jeff sessions right now, because there's been a lot of back-and-forth about, he serves at the pleasure of the president, what is it? is he going to stay or not? >> look, the reason that there is so much back and forth is because you guys keep asking the same question over and over. i've addressed this probably 100 times. >> martha: it's easy to say he has the confidence of the president and we expect them to remain attorney general. >> an upset anybody that doesn't have the confidence of the president moving forward, he has the ability to fire them, and if he decides to do that he certainly will. this is in a president that shies away from taking action and taking decisive action. if he chooses to do that, he certainly would be a disputant is the president any reaction to the back-and-forth with anthony scaramucci and ryan lizza and the comments in the article?
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>> i haven't had a conversation since the story hit, so i couldn't comment on his thoughts on that front. it's going all right. sarah, thank you very much. good to have you with us. >> thanks martha. >> martha: good to see you. with richard as data printer, what a secretary under george w. bush. she wrote a beautiful piece imparting some of your experiences. obviously, sarah does a great job, she's in a tough position tonight. >> ethic which he proved annette see his stomach she is a great if you are a staffer, i would follow it seriously. she is grounded and levelheaded. the stuff is happening around her and she is having to manage it. i think what you see also is that there is a lot of pent-up resentment between the newcomen occasions director anthony scaramucci, and the chief of staff reince priebus. i took the show they put on last week saying everything is fine, we get along great, i don't necessarily think that's true. now we see that in these
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comments that there is a lot that has to be decided by the president. this is not something that scaramucci can decide or reince priebus can decide. i actually think this decision comes down to the president. they've both made their case. if they're both going to stay, then the president has to make that happen. if priebus is going to go, other changes, i would suggest making them soon, because the transition because of them not to be able to talk about the things that are going on. >> martha: how to get right back to that with you. we'll take a quick break, and be rebecca dana perino. will get much more reaction to all of that. and also talk about the president's new communication director, anthony scaramucci, we've seen on the show many times. you've seen them -- she he's a bit on the hot seat, but he puts on a tweet to put some of that trust. will it work is the question. also attorney general jeff sessions speaking exclusively to
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>> martha: we are back in a
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busy thursday night here on "the story." more reaction after the president's new white house munication structure called a reporter and unleashes, calling out fellow white house staffers and more. tonight he has responded, sending this tweet out moments ago. we did not get a plot up with sarah huckabee sanders. this is his response. he says i sometimes use colorful language appeared i will refrain in this arena, but not give up the passionate fight for, the president's agenda. make america great again. market -- dana perino is back with us. juan williams is cohost of "the five" ." let's get mark's thoughts first and go around the horn and get back to dana. mark, before you do that, let's put up one more of these quotes so that you can -- so the folks at home who may not have seen them can see them, m we are not pulling them all up for a very good reasons because they are not pg rated. he says i'm not steve bannon,
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i'm not trying to mount bran off of the blank strength of the president. i'm here to serve the country. he threatened to fire the enteric medications department because he was upset that a leak happened that explained who he was having dinner with, with the president of the white house. mark. >> i'm speaking as somebody who wants the president to succeed and wants his agenda to pass. this is an absolute train wreck. think about what's happening. sarah huckabee sanders was just on and she said that he is just so passionate about the president's agenda. if he so passionate about the president's agenda, stop stepping on it. yesterday they had a big announcement with fox con were they investing billions of dollars in wisconsin, gotta create all these jobs paid what we talk about? where talk about the president -- his latest attack on sessions and whether sessions will still be job. now we are talking -- they have tax reform that they've unveiled today. principles for text form. what we talk about? we are talking about scaramucci
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attacking the white house chief of staff as a schizoid paranoid. they are stepping on their own story, and if they were getting stuff done, but they are getting stuff done. it's an absolute train wreck. >> martha: i think your passion is, you know, a lot of times people talk about -- trash the president, you want to support the president, you want the country to do well no matter what party represent in this country. i think that that feeling of being fired up when you see something like that comes out of a patriotic place. i think and hope, whether you're a democrat or republican, because the effect of the matter is -- sarah huckabee sanders, we are really glad you came on tonight, she made it clear that we want to talk about the jobs outside of the white house. the problem is that there's so much -- when you make it all about you, which is what this appears to do in this particular instance, and the other individuals that you work with, you undercut that message in a huge way. let's go to the message master,
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dana perino for another thought on that. >> i do think -- member in the campaign when he said i alone can't fix it. this is an instance where he alone is the only one that can actually fix it. he obviously has two people that he is relied upon in his white house, i'm talking in particular about chief of staff reince priebus and anthony scaramucci, the newcomen occasions director. they've both been loyal to the president as far as i know. the president is the one that needs to set the tone for these two guys. sarah huckabee sanders said today that the president likes this kind of competition. maybe this is not too far. i would say, however, let's not kid ourselves. reporters love this kind of thing. they don't want anthony scaramucci to dial back his leg which. this is the best story that they can get, because i will tell you this. reporters, human beings, they
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will eat dessert first. it's always much more fun to write about and talk about the telenovela that is the white house. imagine if you had cameras -- it's harder to make them eat their vegetables. having them -- make them read a story only about fox kohn, or only about health care, you can do that, but only you at the top of the white house can make sure that happens. >> martha: you have to put the vegetables on the table, and no dessert. one, you think the place is on fire? >> i know it's on fire. the thing about it, martha, it's not just that there is a fire at the white house. it's that nobody inside the white house is interested in getting out. everybody is locked in a deathmatch, and so what you have is scaramucci versus before, but also versus steve bannon. you can read that in the comments. he personally attacks both men,
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and uses scandalous, offensive language. people talk about, we have an agenda. this is been a very rough week for the white house. arguably evidence of dysfunction, going from the president attacking his own attorney general to now you have the new communications director attacking the chief of staff and the chief political strategy strategist president trump's message that he likes competition, but it opens up this white house to attacks from its critics. when i'm noticing is that so many of the critics right now our fellow republicans who are saying, as we heard from people on this panel, you are not advancing the republican agenda here, this is all about ego and competition. he said cain and abel is what scaramucci is his relationship with priebus. that doesn't answer well. >> martha: thanks, guys. let's take a quick break and will be right back with
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morehead. president trump's plan to change the military's transgender policy is not moving forward for now. one of this generations grates, general jack keane, joins us, and he will weigh in on that in just a moment. plus an update to a store that we first told you about last night. there are now new calls for debbie wasserman schultz to be investigated into how she handled the scandal surrounding a former i.t. aide who is now charged with bank fraud. why did she not fire him, and why did she throughout the capitol police who wanted to look at her computer? all that after this. >> under my understanding, the capital police are not able to confiscate members equipment when the member is not under investigation. it is their equipment. so the incredibly minor accident that i had tonight- four weeks without the car. okay, yup. good night. with accident forgiveness your rates won't go up just because of an accident. switching to allstate is worth it.
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>> i think you are violated the rules when you conduct your business that way. there will be consequences. >> martha: that video, which we uncovered here last night on "the story" is getting quite a bit of attention. it shows debbie wasserman schultz scolding the chief of the capitol police, who was there to protect her and everyone else who works on capitol hill. this is starting to get a lot more attention. rnc chair rhonda mcdaniel is calling for the former dnc had
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to testify about all of this before congress, and about the man he see in the right-hand side of the screen, imran awan, who was arrested as he was leaving the country. he is her former i.t. aide. tim canova, wasserman schultz's primary opponent, took a step further saying that the video shows obstruction of justice. he joins us now along with katie pavlich and moa lethe. both are fox news contributor's. good to have you here. tim, obviously, you are running against her. so this is helpful to you. but you believe that there is actual obstruction of justice here? >> you should see for yourself. it's a question, is she obstructing justice when she makes a threat to the head of the capitol police? >> martha: the threat was what, exactly? >> she said there would be consequences, and this was a subcommittee hearing of the appropriations subcommittee on the legislative branch. was she threatening that somehow the budget would be impeded if
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he did not cooperate and handover the laptop or computer that she said was hers? at the very least it shows a pattern of mismanagement. we saw that throughout her tenure as the dnc chair. the dnc lost an awful lot of seats, the democratic party in the last few years when she was chair of the dnc. in addition to losing seats, she didn't cooperate with turning over the servers of the dnc. there's lots of questions about that. there's even a fraud lawsuit against the dnc, which really goes to her tenure as the chair of the dnc. >> martha: with regard to this particular story, the reason that she is getting so much attention is because this man was forbidden from touching any congressional computers, because there was an investigation into whether or not he had access them improperly. he worked for several numbers of congress on the hill. he and other family members who worked in i.t. business with him made $4 million working on the hill. it's amazing can make that as an i.t. specialist, you have to ask
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yourself what's going on and what are they being paid to do. >> what's most troubling, when the allegations surfaced several months ago, every other democratic member of congress who mr. awan worked for fired him very promptly. she didn't fire him until the day after -- >> martha: you know why? >> i have no idea. that's the question test. the people in her district, they want a choice. the problem with debbie wasserman schultz is that it seems to be nonstop drama, unfortunately. that's divided the party and all floppy to the party needs to start unifying, and it needs to unify around some basic principal spirit >> martha: i want katie to weigh in on this. if they smoke and as far? >> absolutely. spirit is there fire and the smoke? >> exactly. the big question for me is why wasn't debbie wasserman schultz more concerned about this person working for her, the national security implications, wiring money to pakistan after having access to the house i.t. system,
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and her question should be not when the capitol police are going to give me my computer, which could've been compromised, back, but please look into as much as you can to make sure that my offices in compromised, that my fellow republicans and democrats are compromised. and that there are people in pakistan who have our information. >> martha: we know -- the democrats didn't want to turn over their server during the hacking investigation last summer, but as far as we know there's no connection between these two things, or might there be? >> like i said, we don't have any evidence of that, but it begs the question why is debbie wasserman schultz so averse to cooperating with investigations surrounded her i.t. systems? whether it's the fbi or the capitol police? >> full disclosure, i worked at the dnc at the time that she was the chair. i would disagree with the characterization that the dnc did not cooperate with the fbi, it did turn over everything that was on that server.
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but you are right, it isn't related to this. i don't understand this. i just don't understand why this got to the point it did. if i'm advising debbie wasserman schultz, and every other democrat has fired the guy, right, i don't understand why. >> martha: we don't know the nature of the work she was to e he was for her , she felt protective of him in some way. >> i don't know. one thing about debbie, knowing her a bit, is there have been -- she's come under fire quite a bit for a lot of different things during her tenure, and her inclination tends to be to dig in. when a guy who is barred from being able to access congressional technology remains as an i.t. director, you raise questions. >> martha: and still getting paid by the taxpayer to do it. >> i don't know if there's smoke, i don't know if there's
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fire, but i do think that there are some questions about that. i do think we should be careful not to try to conflate that with the other -- >> martha: we will continue to ask, because this is a story we don't see to me places, and we wonder why about that, too. because it is a story to dig into. thanks, you guys. good to see all of you. still ahead, a look at the senate floor after seven years could we be seeing the end of obamacare as we know it? tonight may tell that story. we are monitoring the latest here. they're going to vote tonight. if anything breaks, we will certainly get that to you right away. we are watching it very closely. plus an american general warning north korea's missile capabilities is advancing much faster than we thought. general jack keane here on that very serious bit of news when we come back. and then you totaled him. you two had been through everything together.
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stores that are breaking tonight. u.s. officials confirming that iran launched a satellite carrying rocket into space, fueling fears of particular initial development in that region. the threat of north korean -- a top military official issued this warning. >> have advanced significantly and quicker than many had expected, their intercontinental ballistic missile capability that could attack the united states. we are fully in support of the secretary state, their efforts to bring this to a peaceful resolution appeared however, time is running out. >> martha: general jack keane, a fox news military analyst, general jack keane, good to see you. you look at what's going on in the world and everything that they are working on in congress, here at home, these are very serious threats that the united states potentially faces here. what's your assessment? >> it's true. it this nuclear proliferation by
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rogue states, it's a dangerous situation. north korea, kim jong un's calculation is simply this. he believes when it comes down to war as it is acquiescent to his missile technology with nuclear tips we will acquiesce, he uses the backdrop of acquiring nuclear weapons themselves a number of years ago despite u.s. protestations. we acquiesced. the chinese, once they had acquired nuclear weapons, they wanted to acquire icbms. we protested loudly. once they acquired them, we acquiesced. that's what he's betting on here he's betting on the fact that at the end of the day, the united states will not go to war over his capability. >> martha: what should we do? >> i think the trump team, despite the fact the sanctions have always failed in the past, they are doubling down on this. there has to be a sense of urgency, because it takes sanctions well to take hold. if they go all out, it's worth trying that.
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obviously the other option, a preemptive strike, that's not going to work in my judgment. kim jong un will recognize that as an act of war and respond accordingly. we certainly have all sorts of different military options from low-end to high-end that we can possibly execute. i think you look at anyone of those the same way. an act of war. against his nation-state and he will respond militarily. >> martha: position on the south korean set of that border, which is a problem for it i want to ask you some changes about the problems that are changed at nsc today. derek carvey, the middle east advisor to the president, was pushed out. i know he's someone that you respect and admire, correct? >> i've known them for years. derek harvey, he assisted me in my assessments in iraq over a two-year powered . he's the best intelligence and
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analyst have ever met in a military expert. invaluable, i thought, to the trump administration. i'm actually befuddled by. i know they are looking at giving him another position, certainly, and i hope that takes place. >> martha: one last thought on the transgender policy, because the defense department says that it's not a policy yet. it was tweeted by the president yesterday morning, which appears to have cut them a bit off guard. >> yeah, i mean, policy by twitter just doesn't make any sense to me. the defense permit can only respond to a presidential directive in writing. or chief of staff signing for him. that's it. or else they cannot take action. so i think this time that we have here, we've got to come to our senses here. we've got about 2500 soldiers after secretary carter lifted the transgender band, by which the military did not ask for it, but he lifted it, and after that
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about 2500 soldiers came forward and changed their gender. they had served honorably and faithfully before that, and i've no reason to doubt that they served honorably and faithfully now. we cannot break faith with those soldiers in my judgment. >> martha: general keane, as always, good to talk to you. thank you ray much. >> good to talk to you, martha. >> martha: tonight, this is new -- karl rove says that the white house, and his mind, needs to wake up before teen drama overtakes the president's agenda. that is next. i'm so frustrated. i just want to find a used car without getting ripped off. you could start your search at the all-new carfax.com that might help. show me the carfax. now the car you want and the history you need
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the last seven days at the white house have been nothing short of chaotic. the newest headache is this bombshell interview from anthony scaramucci. it's a rant against woodhouse chief of staff reince priebus, and he gets very vulgar at times. ed henry has the latest on this. he is on the north line where it is been pretty busy. >> a lot of drama, martha. let me tell you about your exclusive interview with sarah huckabee sanders and the drama that was caused off-camera that our viewers would have seen while you were talking at the top of this hour with sarah huckabee sanders. a line of reporters that had not been getting calls and emails returned from top white house aides for reaction to anthony scaramucci, strong comments in the new yorker magazine interview, lined up a few feet from where i am trying to grab it sarah huckabee sanders right after she finished with you. once the interview ended, she looked at her phone, said give me a couple of minutes. wanted to find out if anything
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else had dropped in the last couple of moments. was there any new white house strategy to react? as to the report is to walk on the driveway. they did that. they waited for her, and she said much the same that she told you that they are going to be distracted by all this. i will note, remember on a similar occasion when sean spicer was practically hiding in the bushes on the driveway, in contrast sarah huckabee sanders faced the music and took the heat from reporters and tried tonight to push back. you are right, there is a lot of drama. on top of what scaramucci said in the new yorker magazine, you have jeff sessions still under fire here. i've been told by some of the president's advisors that for now they believe the president had been tucked down from firing jeff sessions but he still very angry at the attorney general, but they believe he is at least calm down they tell me that what they are telling the president is that firing the attorney general, a popular conservative, would spark a revolt among the very republicans on the hill the president needs on health care, taxes, and the rest of his agenda. republican ben sykes to to the
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floor to discourage the president from going forward -- firing sessions and using a recess in august to install a replacement without having to get that replacement confirmed. he declared that the presidency is not a ball, and the nation is not a china shop. the strong's as defensive sessions came from republican lindsey graham, who is also authoring a bill that would block the president from ousting robert mueller. the attorney general is speaking out with tucker carlson. >> if jeff sessions is fired, there will be holy hell to play. any attempt to fire rob mueller could be the beginning of the end for the president. >> we see the president's criticism of you. do you think it's fair? >> it's kind of hurtful, but the president of the united states is a strong leader. he wants all of us to do our jobs, and that's what i intend to do. >> on that very point, the interview you can see was
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conducted in el salvador were sessions is working on a way to crack down on the violent gang ms-13. the attorney general also told the associated press in another interview he has no plans to step down. the president had every right to fire him if he wants. again, session saying he has no plans to step down. you can see the full interview at 8:00 it >> martha: ed, thank you very much. tonight, karl rove's former deputy chief of staff. he did that under george w. bush, and is also a fox news political contribute appeared carl, you have a unique perspective on this. you've been in the halls and worked there. when you look at the back and forth that we have seen over the course of this week, what you are about today in "the wall street journal," then a particular this story that broke tonight, what you make of it? >> i wrote my piece for this morning's journal, he went to
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bed -- it was focused on sessions, and i thought he was first of all being mistreated by the president, and i thought the president was acting stupidly. if he removes jeff sessions, there will be hell to pay for the next six months or longer. if you think the last six months of press have been bad for president trump, tried pushing through a message about his agenda when the democrats -- first of all you have difficulty finding somebody, then the nomination, confirmation would be horrendous and go on and months and months. i was writing about something i thought was problematic for the administration and hurtful to the president's attempts to get his message out. i got to tell you, two hours, three hours after my piece went to bed, we had this drama with anthony scaramucci, who i know personally. known him for a number of years. first of all, accusing people of leaking what is actually a public document. his personal financial statement. everybody serves in the administration -- i had to do it seven years that i worked at the white house.
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i do fill out a 278. it was available to anybody. he was working at the export import bank, and 71 over there, and requested a copy of his document which is available to the public. then he wrote about it. for him to rant and rave about it was bad enough, but then to go on, as is done over the last 24 hours, this profanity laced tirade to ryan lizza of the new yorker, is appalling beyond belief. how can anybody overcome that and work as a colleague in the future. he goes after the chief of staf staff, reince priebus, and deeply personal terms. he says objectionable, almost homophobic things about steve bannon, the president's advisor and chief strategist. these things are appalling could how i can imagine that is constructive at all and working towards the filming of president trump's agenda. >> martha: what he think the president is about it? >> he's got something big to deal with.
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he now has brought on the communications chief -- he has to decide. is he going to be reince priebus or is he going to be anthony scaramucci. is he going to be steve bannon or is he going to be anthony scaramucci. that's a tough decision. >> martha: thanks as always, we will be right back. we know steve. switching to allstate is worth it.
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>> martha: finally tonight a moving ceremony at the white house today. president trump honored the men and women who save lives during the horrific shooting at a republican congressional baseball practice. he would've met metals of valor to five officers as well as honoring doctors and first responders. listen to this. >> the assault on june 14th reminded us that evil exists in this world. but it also reminded us that heroes walk in our midst. >> martha: very tribute in attendance was jennifer scalise, the wife of government steve scalise. he is currently in rehab and she sends his best wishes. i would not be here without the bravery of capital officers. they save my life and are my
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heroes. we agree. we will see back here tomorrow night. busy night, right? 7:00 tomorrow night, tucker's life next from el salvador with attorney general jeff sessions. good night, everyone, . ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." we are life from el salvador, and unfortunately cannot do the whole show from here. i wish we could. there are technical limitations. there's a bad delay, thunderstorms, i don't have a teleprompter, something happened to my necktie. so laura ingraham is going to take over the show in just a minute. we are grateful for that. the news seems to be happening back at home. did you see what anthony scaramucci said of his coworkers? the new white house medications director lit up reince priebus and a bunch of other people in the white house. how do i know this? because we are in

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