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house tonight. that's it for tonight's "special report," fair, balanced, and still unafraid. "the story" hosted by martha maccallum with house speaker paul ryan sitting down starts right now. ♪ >> martha: breaking tonight, and deadly hurricane irma has its sights squarely on florida and the southeast coast. we are going to show you the very latest track in moments, i martha maccallum reporting tonight from washington but we have a jam-packed show for you, including my interview with speaker paul ryan, reaction from kellyanne conway and congressman trey gowdy. but the big story on everybody's mind is this unprecedented powerhouse of a hurricane and the states in its path. tonight, you have got states of emergency in florida, georgia, south carolina, all the way up to north carolina. hundreds of thousands of people
are leaving their homes or they are trying to get out tonight. here is governor rick scott just a short while ago. >> every florida family must prepare to evacuate. i cannot stress this enough. get prepared now. know your evacuation zone now. this is a catastrophic storm that our state hasn't seen. it has already killed a lot of people in the caribbean. don't think you can ride out this storm. >> martha: do not think that you can ride out the storm. there is the president being briefed in his office today on irma. that was a short while ago. also, he address these dire circumstances. >> we don't know exactly where it's going to be landing, where land fall will be, but we think that we are as well-prepared as you can be. we are with everybody in florida, we are working very hard, we have tremendous talent and tremendously brave people there, and hopefully it is going to work out all right.
we'll see over the next few hours. >> martha: that we will. irma has already unleashed a trail of death and destruction. look at this, throughout the caribbean. these images are just incredible. the power of this thing is unstoppable. look at those boats. the tiny island of barbuda has been literally destroyed. >> we just did a flyover, and i have to tell you, my heart sunk. it has been one of the worst days of my life. i know how you must feel. the entire country has been decimated. i have never seen anything like this before. >> martha: awful. unreal. the chief meteorologist rick reichmuth in the fox weather center tonight watching irma's track. rick, what does it look like now? >> over the last five hours or so, i think things are saving may be a little worse for south florida, i hate to say
this. the storm is still a cat 5, since we've had the satellites up there, never had a storm that is dated 135 miles an hour anywhere on the globe for 37 hours like we saw this once. winds are at 135 now. that doesn't make a difference, frequent continue to pull towards the west. here's the bad part. for the eastern part of florida. earlier in the day, this track was a little farther toward the west. i should say, these storms aren't just points. these storms are very big. everybody in florida is going to get something from this. the worst of it is to the right side of where it comes on. we've been seeing a little bit of the trend of this moving farther to the left. the center of that, if it happens, it makes conditions for us much worse. still it is a possibility that this misses the coast and stays out to sea. at this point, it looks more and more like it, make some sort of
landfall now. places like miami, all of this area dealing with the storm surge if this forecast verifies. here is the model, the most reliable model, this is what makes the national hurricane center adjusted forecast. see the center cutting up the coast. the hurricane force winds extend out from the center. this is about 100 miles wide, 7, potentially hurricane force winds the entire length of the peninsula here as we go through time. right now, it is pummeling the turks and caicos, a very long night ahead there, and about two days here to prep the u.s. martha? >> martha: incredible. rick, thank you so much. my next guest is mayor of a community under mandatory evacuation right now, and he has called irma a "nuclear hurricane" and it feels like that for the islands that have been in its path so far. philip levine is the mayor of miami beach, florida. welcome tonight.
what is going on there? has everyone left? give us a sense of what it is like in miami beach tonight. >> well, i can tell you, i'm on ocean drive right now, usually full of a lot of people having a lot of fun. right now, it's incredibly quiet, no one really walking around. we began telling people to leave miami beach about three days ago, before mandatory evacuation. we take this storm incredibly serious. that's why i call it a nuclear hurricane. it is dangerous, it is coming our way. the mandatory evacuation, which came yesterday, we are enforcing it. i'll tell you one thing, which is great. it's orderly. it's organized. our causeways in and out of the beach have been very good, very clear, and people are leaving. now, we are doing everything we can to tell them to leave. we know it's that serious, it's that important. if you any of your viewers are watching for miami beach, please leave. we have buses, we have trolleys, we are on top of speaking to our seniors to organize them, or homeless community, and our
special needs people. >> martha: in terms of the shelters, do you have enough space for all of the people that need to be in them? >> well, we know that we have a tremendous amount of shelters all over miami-dade county. remember something, a lot of people want to go to the shelters. the. delco stayed with friends or families inland, away from the water areas. you never know where this is going to hit. hurricane andrew is going to come towards miami beach. we've got to take into account all of this. once again, we are telling everybody, leave miami beach. i never thought i would ever say that, but i'm saying it these days. >> martha: what about fema, what about the preparation, what about insurance? how do you feel your community is in terms of all that? >> i can tell you our staff has been incredible, we've done a lot of different things in the last five, six, seven days, putting in portable pumps, portable generators, and pruning
trees, tying down all types of material, everything we can do o help mitigate this. i can tell you this, when it comes to a hurricane, it is very difficult, but at the same toke token, coming to a historic hurricane of this magnitude, it only magnifies the challenge. but we've been in touch with the white house. of course, our county government and state government, everyone working together for preparation of this oncoming storm. >> martha: mayor levine, thank you. we wish you well there, and we hope that this thing takes a turn that changes that eventuality. thanks very much for being here tonight. so we'll keep watching that. earlier today, the senate approved a deal to lift the debt ceiling and send hurricane relief funds despite some frustration from republicans over this measure. joining us now, florida senator marco rubio. senator, good to see you, good to have you on "the story." i'm sorry it's under the
circumstances that you are preparing for. how are you doing? >> i think the community is doing well. i'm just home, getting a little ready there. a lot of people watching in florida, it's a huge area that's under a hurricane watch, extensive areas under a warning. you don't really have, like, two days to get ready. starting to see tropical storm winds as early as tomorrow evening, you can really go and put out shutters on the daylight. that's about 12 hours to finish that work. people really need to understand that and either make those preparations or figure out where they are going to be tomorrow when the storm hits. this is a very serious storm. i want to make one more point. it's not just about the wind. you can hide from the wind, but you can't hide from the water. it's going to find you. i want people to think about it this way. the largest atlantic storm ever is going to push basically all of that water from the caribbean basin into coastal areas. there is a map up on the
national weather service that has a map of the area that are going to see the storm storm s. that surge is going to be right behind it, the surge is in many ways more damaging than the wind. >> martha: we were in houston yesterday, and i don't think anything can ever prepare you for walking into your own home and seeing what has happened to it. it's devastating, and it has so many emotions wrapped up in it. your life, your family, your friends, your neighbor's. and i'm sure the good people of florida are going to be there for each other during this, but it really is -- how do you, as a senator and someone who is overseeing your community there, how do you prepare people for that, for sticking together? >> first of all, you try to set the example yourself. you've got to get out there and make sure you are doing the things you're asking people to do. we are out there doing that. by the same token, we want to be sure these federal agencies are ready to respond and get people
confident that when it's all said and done that the federal government is in position to do what it's job is supposed to be. the third is to act as a place. we really have the media to thank created the ability to communicate to people and to let them know things like the storm surge. a lot of people are saying, i've got shutters, a strong house. what about the water? that's what i really want to encourage. this is a massive part of the state, all the way up to lake okeechobee. that is a lot of water to worry about. i hope people in the zones that are susceptible to storm surge, not just flooding, storm surge, that they are getting ready to handle that. >> martha: yeah. i do want to ask you about what is happened back in washington to make the funds available for harvey. i know you put out a statement today saying that you didn't love everything in that bill or the way it was constructed with the debt ceiling that is going to exist for three months and then disappear. in fact, you said you considered
to be among the most politically cynical efforts that you have ever witnessed. what do you mean by that? >> first of all, you take a bunch of people that are victims of the storm, a bunch of people that are facing the most powerful atlantic storm ever, and you say, here's your money for relief, but you can only get this money if you agree to vote yes on increasing the debt limit, on a short-term spending plan for the government. things, by the way, that we have some time -- not a lot of time, but some time to address. you've got these two things that you know people are desperate for. i just think that's really not the kind of thing that you do. obviously, for someone like myself, never voted to raise the debt limit, never supported the short-term spending, it puts you in eight -- forget about it politically difficult position. you're basically saying, if you want to money for storm leaf, you're going to have to vote on some of these things that you find objectionable. it's done, it had to happen, whatever it may be. but really, i find that to be
cynical, and certainly -- i guess nothing surprises us anymore. >> martha: senator rubio, we wish you well. we thank you for being with us, and we are glad you could get your message out to as many people as possible, and we will talk to you about all those other things on another day. good to see you, senator. take care. >> thank you, thank you. everybody needs to get ready. thank you. >> martha: just in to fox news, a big setback for president trump's travel man. we're going to tell you what a federal appeals court just decided in a moment. hillary clinton has a new target, former congressman and fox contributor jason chaffetz, and he is here to respond to the allegations about him and her new book. first, more backlash builds for the presidents budget deal with democrats. unfortunate place for some. i sat down for an exclusive interview today with how speaker paul ryan, and i think you're going to be interested to hear his reaction. >> perfectly reasonable why he is doing what doing.
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circuit court has ruled that grandparents, uncles, cousins of people in the united states should not be prevented from coming to this country. the decision upheld a ruling by a federal judge in hawaii who found the administration's view too strict. obviously, more is that story develops. there is also a storm brewing on capitol hill tonight. president trump's decision to side with democrats on the debt ceiling rippling across washington this evening. some praising trump's art of the deal, shall we say, critics say he turned his back on the party with all of this. earlier today, i sat
on house speaker paul ryan for this exclusive >> martha: mr. speaker, thank you very much. great to be with you. yesterday was a busy day, you were over at the white house. when you look at that deal that was struck in the room for the three 3-month debt ceiling, semisizing up and saying the president was
speaking to republican leadership, he was saying it was a signal to you guys. what do you say to that? >> what he is trying to do is clear the decks so we can get focused on our big things like tax reform. i've spoken to the president, spoke to him this morning, he wants to clear the decks we can get our job done and poke some big issues like tax reform, border security. the second thing is, we are getting hit with two hurricanes. we're still dealing with harvey in texas and louisiana. we are just now getting hit with irma, and he wanted to make this a bipartisan moment where we weren't fighting each other up in washington about hurricane aid. he just wanted to get it done, get it out of the way so that aid is flowing to the states that need it right now so that we can go and focus on things like tax reform. so it's perfectly reasonable and rational why he's doing what he's doing. >> martha: but word was that you were furious. >> no, i wasn't furious. i have a belief on debt issues come up for the credit markets to have longevity on these things, but i understand why he
was doing what he was doing and by his motivation is, we got hurricane relief, let's make it bipartisan, and let's clear the decks we can focus on our shared agenda like tax reform. >> martha: mick mulvaney, our former colleague, was talking to our colleagues at fox business, and he has, is he annoyed with the republican leadership? and this is what he said. i think he probably is, and so am i. as an american citizen, i am to too. >> i can't speak to that. i know mick and i talk of a time. we have passed more bills in the house for the president and his agenda in the first six months of this administration been the first six of obama, clinton, and both bushes. it 260 are still in the senate. still busy working on judges and appointees. but the house is been extremely productive. not just extremely productive, more productive than any congress and the modern era. >> martha: i think it was
mostly talking about health care in terms of his frustration. he went on to say -- >> we are frustrated too. started last may on repeal and replace, and we were hoping to get it done then. we too frustrated this hasn't gotten done yet. what i always say to my colleagues, especially in the senate, where this bill couldn't go through, if at first you don't succeed, try, try again. health care is collapsing, obamacare is a total failure. got to get on it. the house did its job, passed its bill, we got to get added. >> martha: also discussion that chuck schumer and the person to have been doing looking at doing away with the debt ceiling, argue in favor of that? >> i've always thought this was a good tool. as imperfect as it is, i see it as a good tool for fiscal discipline, and i see this is one of our article 1 powers. congress exercising the power of the purse.
experiencing are not in favor? >> i like the fact that congress controls the power of the purse, that gives us opportunities for fiscal discipline. >> martha: one of the fiscal discipline issues that i know you talk to the republican study committee about, they want to make sure that when it comes toe real or form, that it's not going to just be tax cuts. i know from talking to you over the years, this has been your passion for a long time. >> it is. >> martha: one of the reasons were reluctant to take this job. it meant so much to you to do that. now you've got a few months before the end of the year. what is going to look like? tell the american people. >> you can go to the ways and means website if you want to get more details, but basically, what we want to do, for families, dramatically simpler by the tax court. give middle income families a tax code. semper fi the tax code so much that people can fill out the taxes on a postcard. clean up the irs. and then when it comes to businesses, we have got to get tax rates on businesses down. why?
we are taxing american businesses at much higher rates than our foreign competitors are taxing there is, and as a result, we are losing jobs, losing businesses. it rewards businesses to make things overseas, not in america. if you sell it overseas, you can bring that money back because of the taxis it it and make system. >> martha: that is going to take a kind of drain the swamp mentality. >> that is what i've been fighting for since i've gotten here. >> martha: there is so much riding on that vote and on that being real reform so people say, we didn't just get a temporary tax cut, you know it, actually, going to have that reform. tell them that that's not what they're going to hear. >> that's not what they're going to hear. that was the president's motivation with this hurricane harvey deal yesterday, which was, get this stuff done so that we can go focus on real tax reform for the american people. this has not been done -- "this" be encumbrance of tax reform -- since 1986. a different global economy than
we have now. americans have the worst tax system in the industrialized world. we have to get this thing right. it's get rid of the special interest carve outs and we can simplify the system. what were trying to do is get folks focused on this. that is why the president did what he did yesterday and that is my real so focused on this and we are so excited to finally have a president of the united states who is here to work with us on doing just that. >> martha: are you concerned, you hear he is talking to senator schumer about doing away with the debt ceiling vote, that he is looking for a new coalition? that he is frustrated with his leadership and he's saying, i'm going to look around the room and find out who i can put this together with? >> you expect the president to talk to the other party. isn't it natural that a president should be speaking with members of leadership of the other party? that's something to be totally expected. we'll have a disagreement or agreement on various different
issues, but i would expect the president of united states to be talking to leaders of different parties. >> martha: so you're not concerned -- you know, there's a lot this morning, real backlash. orrin hatch was outraged with what happened. a lot of people were. that he turned to him in that room and said, i'm with you guys on that. >> martha: what >> what happened was, it had earlier, you know why? two hurricanes. one thing that was unpredicted, hurricane harvey, now hurricane irma. if the technology that people use now to apply for fema aid is so much faster. we didn't have iphones when we had katrina. now people are using their smartphones to fill out their aid relief, so that money is going through the door so much faster that they are concerned -- fema, the federal emergency management administration -- concerned they will run out of money this weekend for hurricane aid. >> martha: the president had said 15% on the corporate tax rate many times. today, you said you don't think
that will happen. >> here and i have talked about that many times. he said, get that as little as he unsolicited -- as low as he, that's what were working on. 15 is the goal that he has set out. we have to make sure the numbers work out. this is the budget process. we're getting these numbers as low as we possibly can. >> martha: are you going to do a lot of carve outs, loopholes, take away all of the tax promises that have been made to corporations, so they are going to see a lot of that off their plate as a way to lower their taxes. >> get rid of those so we can lower tax rates across the board. we think is simple, fair, and will grow the economy. >> martha: reports that steve bannon and mark meadows are casting about ideas for someone to replace you. what do you say to that? >> i don't worry about that at all. when i took this job at the request of our members, i knew they were going to be arrows. this is not something i worried about. i'm right about getting our agenda passed. >> martha: if you don't get
tax reform passed, would you be looking at saying -- >> come i'm just focused on our agenda. mark and i had great conversations, but i'm not going to worry about any of that stuff. >> martha: and you're going to have dinner with the president tonight? >> that's right. >>
martha: going to be cozy? >> we talk over time. >> martha: nice to see a. >> you too, martha. >> martha: thanks to the speaker for sitting down with us today. as you know, there are these unbelievable warnings of this deadly hurricane, headed towards florida on the southeast coast. >> you realize that you're on your own. >> will keep a close watch on this, give you all the updates, expect a news conference, it is headed right for the united states. plus, will president trump's surprise deal with the democrats as we were discussing alienate republicans. counselor to the president
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in here, officials in key west, listen to what they're telling everybody. we are >> we're so close. we are right on the edge. we have 42 bridges that connect key west to the rest of the mainland, if one of those bridges are out there, even if we don't get hit by the hurricane, i want to thank everyone, all of our staff, see the volunteers, everybody up in key west, up and running. that being said, i want to turn it over to our city manager for some more details. >> the evacuation orders are still out there and resolve opportunities to move folks that don't otherwise have transportation. we will recommence the bus transportation out of town up to the evacuation shelter, and that also at the fairgrounds for those that need to evacuate with
pets. the city buses with the evacuations or signs on them and pick up roots have been defined, and told them of 200 people out of the keys today, 6:00 a.m. from key west and all the way up to the shelters. >> it will run all day tomorrow, during the day, once the buses, will have to determine if we have any opportunity on saturday to continue, but it will likely end tomorrow. >> reporter: [indistinct question] >> at the same as what they say. this is not the place to be for this storm. if you've got any means to evacuate at all, you need to get out of this town and out of the keys. questions? >> reporter: a lot of people are staying, how do you remind them that they are staying.
>> i would have to challenge you on the term, "a lot of people are staying." i think a lot of people have left. those of us that have been doing it for a long time, the keys are a little hardheaded sometimes about evacuation, not this time. this time people are taking it serious, looking at the images, looking at the radar of what this is, and they are taking it very serious. are there a few people still in town? there are. i hope they will heed the warning also, but we are very proud of our residents, we are very proud of our tourists. they are really taking this one serious. you can tell there is no doubt, some of the folks, if you want to talk, he has been near 63 years, and he has seen it for the first time. he was a fire chief and he was also the emergency manager director. i think is this first time seeing this kind of reaction. folks are taking a really serious and were proud of that.
>> reporter: do you know what you're doing to try to get into the keys? seeing a lot of these run out, they may not get to it either? >> or another governor has been pushing some fuel down. the florida patrol came down with them. that is the best we can do. there are some gas stations that are also closing because they are also evacuating the staff. we have, i think, 45, that i last heard that will actually have gas and will be on tomorrow. >> >> reporter: backup generatos for after the? >> something we don't have in ordnance down here like they do at some places, no requirement, but many gas stations do. we're going to be able to support them when the time comes, if the time comes. >> reporter: [indistinct question] >> 149 miles connected by 22
bridges. if a bridge goes down, we're disconnected. we were just talking to the d.o.t. upstairs, they will be doing inspections immediately, but it could take a long time, and it could take weeks, maybe months, depending on which bridge, how big the bridge is, and what happens to the bridge. that's a long time to be disconnected. we have air bridges, will have both bridges, will get supplies done, but it's not the same as being connected. we have our depree contractors all over the keys. they have put trucks and backhoes all over the keys, prestaged all over the keys. whenever that happens, the response, we clear the streets immediately. >> reporter: do you expect that we could see bridge closures, no obvious damages, could see it closing even if it looks like everything has -- >> absolutely. that happened before. we had a fire on the 7-mile bridge, if i were at the top of
the bridge. they had to close the bridge until they could get underneath, and that was ours and ours, even though the fire was already put out. that's an example, you have to go down to structural inspections, something that we can see sometimes. >> should be closure? >> if it is a strong wind, yes. >> [speaking spanish] >> martha: all right, officials in key west. i want to tell you what this gentleman said before we went to it, just in the moments before we went to it. he said, as of tomorrow morning at 8:00 a.m., the bridges will close at 7:00 a.m., all of the hospitals in the key west area will close. the air ambulance will close. 120 miles of islands connected by 42 bridges, he said any one of those bridges goes down, it's going to cut off everything and everyone behind it.
so he is, in very forceful terms, telling people that they absolutely need to evacuate, and he says so far people are doing a good job of that. we'll keep a close eye on that as we get more information throughout the night. also developing tonight, the senate overwhelmingly passing the controversial bill to temporarily raise the nation-state ceiling and fund the government for three months. according to this deal, the boat came monday after the president struck a deal that was somewhat surprising, and that deals with the democratic leadership. it angered many in his own party. >> i thought it was a very, very friendly -- it was a meeting that we all wanted to get to, and i think the primary reason was because you look at north korea, you look at the hurricanes, you look at what's going on, and i said, frankly, it's time we walk out and shake hands and have a deal.
and they agreed.
>> martha: the strategy here, and counselor to the president, kellyanne conway. a lot of head scratching among the g.o.p. leadership. i spoke with paul ryan about this tonight. there has been a lot a backlash. >> i saw speakers >> grants coo you too. he agrees it was smart to act in a bipartisan fashion to clear the decks and lead our way. it's going to be a very busy fault legislative agenda. the crowning touch of that is tax reform, which speaker ryan will be very important helping to pass. you know, martha, the president also didn't want to give up military spending given everything that has happened with north korea and the middle east and elsewhere. his priority right now is to get at it as swiftly as possible for those who are suffering from hurricane harvey. >> martha: was he frustrated in that room? the story is that they were, at 18 months, and then six months, and then they sort of agreed, were going to agree to disagree, six months.
he said, you know it, let's just do three. was he trying to send a signal to the republican leadership, as to think the president is a little bit annoyed with the leadership, and he said, probably, and he said, i am too. is he trying to light a fire? >> people should keep reminding himself that he is a businessman another politician. this is a person who believes in negotiating, believes in getting a good deal for the american people. he is not making a deal with the democrats, getting a deal for the american people, first deal was to get that hurricane aid and assistance. he also wanted to make sure that he has leverage a military spending. frankly, what director mulvaney said today, he doesn't understand by those in the right wing don't welcome a three month deal because it gives them more time to make the argument about the debt ceiling, to go back and restructure.
the president is also saying what other presidents have said, why don't we get rid of the debt ceiling altogether. he is starting the conversation because you have these frequent and politicized votes because of the debt ceiling conundrum. the mainstream media can't happen, he's not bipartisan, he doesn't reach out to the other side. he does that yesterday to try to get the negotiating open, then gets criticized that he didn't coordinate a deal for the democrats. this is ideal for the american people. >> martha: this is what the president tweeted about daca. for all of those concerned about your status during the six-month period met, you have nothing to worry about, no action. nancy pelosi said, that's what i asked them to make clear to people in our meeting. i wanted him to give them relief that they don't have to worry during these six months. another sort of gift to nancy pelosi by some. ann coulter chimed in with this. she said, "i broke my promises.
a possible 2020 slogan for president trump. i broke my promises, betrayed my friends, and is my office to help my family, but, hey, at least i'm not hillary." >> are also saying expect security be part of it. he says he's going to build the wall and expects congress to help fund it, and he's never backed off from that. his administration is making some selections on who will help construct the border wall. he has said clearly, we are a nation that has spent billions of dollars over how many decades helping other nations protect their borders. it's high time that the sovereign nation had physical borders of its own, that we invest in protecting. a lot of americans agree with him. keep the illegal aliens out, but also give the drugs out. he was very clear about that, the drugs pouring through the borders and going into our communities. now, on this one, nobody should read that as a tweet that nancy pelosi put the president
of pate that the president saying that his hand was being forced by the nine attorneys general who are about to file a lawsuit, and so he took action that prevented daca from going that way. daca earlier this year was immediately dishonest because of a decision. the president give a longer runway and a more orderly one by saying six months -- if you want to apply for one by close of business on september 5th, you can do that. people have until march to get it together. the people who have until march to get it together are the congress. they had seven months this year to do something on daca. six years under president obama. >> martha: nothing like the pressure of a business man's deadline. >> should catch up with the
trumpian kind of pace and not the other way around. >> martha: tonight, hillary clinton has a new
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>> martha: meant turning out, bridges closing in key west as he heard metallized news conference moments ago. we are keeping a close eye on us, and when we get the news, will bring it to you. in the meantime, as we take a look at what's going on here in washington, there is this. >> at the time of departure from the fbi, was the fbi able to confirm any criminal allegations contained in the steel document? >> mr. chairman, i don't think that's a question i can answer in an open setting as it goes into the details of the
investigation. >> martha: a lot of questions surrounding this. being asked about the infamous trump dossier. now the house until community is issuing subpoenas. they want to know more about the origin of that document and what it was used for by the fbi. they are reportedly calling on now-fbi director christopher wray and attorney general jeff sessions that they have requested is not provided. here now, one of the people leaving that investigation, congressman trey gowdy, house intelligence committee, good to have you here this evening, congressman. so they want to know, you want to know, and the american people want to know if this dossier, which was later discredited or can be substantiated, at the very least, was used on mass people in the trump campaign, correct? >> was that the evidentiary
basis that the bureau used to launch either a criminal probe or an intelligence probe? it's fine if it were or important, as long as you let me know your vet if the information in the dossier. i need to bureau and doj to say, either be relied upon it or we did not rely upon it, and if we did not rely upon it, this is how we fit of the information before we used it. >> martha: that's pretty significant. you want to understand if this dossier -- also the generation of that dossier. what did they know about the generation of that and who was essentially commissioning that dossier, right? >> who commissioned it is important. what's most important to me -- a friend is capable of telling a lie and an enemy is capable of telling the truth. who commissioned it is important, but i'm more interested in whether the underlying data that was accurate. the only way to know whether it's accurate is for the bureau to investigate the sources and
the sub sources. then i would think everyone would want to know, did our premier law enforcement agency, the fbi, rely on this document to initiate a criminal probe or in court filings and representations before a court. that is an eminently legitimate question, and i really don't know why it's taken to department this long to answer. >> martha: jeff sessions is now the attorney general in charge of the doj, having trouble getting the answers to this information? >> i would be shocked if it had made it up there, but i bet it will shortly become because nek is coming. we don't want the drama, but if you're not going to produce the documents, you need to come in person and explain to us by the entity that created the fbi is not entitled to provide oversight over the fbi. >> martha: in terms of james comey, the senator says he has to come back. he has thinks he needs to clarify. what are those? >> there is evidence -- well,
there is a basis for which to question director comey on whether he reached a consensus before he interviewed the witnesses. there is more than an evidentiary basis that he reached a consensus before he interviewed her. it is, again, not what you meant to ask a law enforcement officer, did you make your mind up before of the investigation? if you're ever in a courtroom, the one thing the jury will tell the truth -- the judge will tell the jury, you cannot make up your mind until the last witness has testified. the reason for that, the last witnessed me tell you all the information you need to know. how you can reach a conclusion before we've interviewed all of the witnesses is befuddling. and if that were done, or if it weren't done, comey needs a chance to explain it, but senator graham needs a chance to ask the question. >> martha: always good to have your update. thank you. coming up, still ahead, the update on hurricane irma and hillary clinton coming out
swinging in an upcoming memoir, even taking a swipe at our own jason chaffetz over and inauguration day running. the former utah congressman is lined up to respond after this. like new nashville hot shrimp drizzled with sweet amber honey, and new grilled mediterranean shrimp finished with a savory blend of green onions, tomatoes, and herbs. feeling hungry yet? good, cuz there's plenty more where these came from. like garlic shrimp scampi, and other classics you love. as much as you want, however you want 'em. but hurry, endless shrimp won't be here long.
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new book has democrats dreading the release, they say, and the attention that it is bringing to them that they don't think it's in the best light. she is adding to the list of those that she feels is responsible for her loss in her run for the presidency. the former democratic candidate expressing regret for not going after james comey when he said she was extremely careless. she says, my first instinct was that the campaign should hit back hard and explained to the public that comey had barely overstepped his bounds. in the end, we decided it would be better to let it go and try to move on. looking back, she writes, that was a mistake. mrs. clinton also takes a dig at my next guest, fox news contributor jason chaffetz serving his house oversight committee chairman, good to see you this evening, jason. >> hey, martha. >> martha: your thoughts on the way she lays this out and wishing, in retrospect, that she had thought about back hard agt his allegations? >> evidently, based on the news accounts, it's a bouquet
probably will never, ever purchase, but based on the news accounts -- look, it's a book about could have, would have, should have, and then a laundrye blames, she blames everybody frm joe biden to bernie sanders, and then there are those of us on the republican side that she also took a potshot at, but that's all right. >> martha: here's the instagram post saying, "so pleased she is now the president. i thanked her for her service." the picture of you guys at the inauguration. "the investigation continues." then she says, "we shook hands and then exchanged small talk. then i realized it wasn't priebus at all." what say you? >> if i was reince priebus, i would be ticked. she had just shaken hands with reince priebus down at the bottom of the stage, i don't
know if she thought he got back in line to shake hands again. i was just trying to be as honest as i could in that tweet. i thought maybe i could have done it a little softer, but i honestly could not be happier that she is not the president of the united states. i think she's the worst candidate, and i worked to expose what she did and how she did it, and i think america, at the end of the day, understood that, and they got it. >> martha: i think it would be surprising if she didn't know who you were and what you're handling, given how close all that was to her. what about the fact that democrats seem to be wishing this book would go away and that she would move on? >> low, the democratic party is still essentially the same. you still have nancy pelosi and chuck schumer, and you got hillary clinton making news time after time again. they still lack a national party leader that they can look to. they don't have a coherent
message. but, hey, as long as hillary clinton continues to take front and center stage and she's going to go on a book tour and gather those, i think it will help the party. it certainly isn't helping the democrats. she has proven she is not going to sail off into the sunset. that's fine by me. >> martha: i have 10 seconds. for the do think about the fact that the president made that deal with nancy pelosi and chuck schumer on the debt ceiling? >> i think it was a reflection of reality. the republicans in the house and senate need to get to the president. looking out for the best interest of the country. i think it's a reflection of reality. >> martha: jason, thank you very much. finally tonight, the names hermie and irma put fear in many and texas and florida, and rightly so. but for one family, for them, this is harvey and irma. harvey is 104, irma at 93, never have they seen their names on two huge hurricane
simultaneously. it may be the last because the fierceness of these means they will likely retire those two names. we like the real schluters better anyway. last night back tomorrow in new york. tucker carlson is up next. ♪ >> this is a fox news alert. hurricane irma carrying it through the the category 5 storm could be the most destructive ever measured. the governor of florida rick scott says the florida keys could feel the effects of the storm very soon with miami and the rest of south florida shortly after. the entire state is, as of this moment, and the path of that storm. fox news chief meteorologist rick reichmuth has been tracking it from the very beginning. >> one of the reasons why this could be the most destructive ever is because it's hitting an area with a lot of population. we had the category 4 harvey that hit texas.