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throughout tonight, so our viewers in florida, godspeed. good night from washington. our friends at "the five," ready to go. good night. >> dana: fox news weather alert. hello, everyone. i am dana perino and this is "the five." hurricane irma is now a category 410 storm, now steadily making its way towards the sunshine state. it is cordially is expected toe category 5 when it makes landfall in the united states. steve harrigan. >> the wind has been picking up every hour, 5.6 million caribbean's have been asked to leave their homes and evacuate, leave what they have come and get on the highway and seek shelter. of course, such a mass movement has not gone smoothly so far.
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hurricane rita in texas and louisiana in 2005, there are two main roads out of southern florida to the north. florida turnpike and i-95. there've been problems on both. at times, traffic has moved at just 5 miles per hour. there's a shortage of gasoline and hotels and when you see the conditions on the road, it makes people scared to stay and scared to leave. you really see that fear you talk to people here. to get to safety, you basically have to leave the state entirely. what could be a five hour drive could be a ten or 20 hour drive. it makes people hesitant to leave. there've been a number of shelters set up in miami-dade county. it can hold 100,000 people. but they are places of last resort. when you hear from officials of the things on tv, the warnings, first responders can't go out when the winds are over 45 miles an hour, don't call 911 during
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the storm, we can't save you during the storm, it all seems counterintuitive. it builds into the fear of what is going on. we see people in the miami area really struggling with the decision to seek shelter in their homes to try to ride it out or get on the highway and hope to find gas and a place to stay. that's not even talking about the potential from the storm surge. it could be 10 feet along with 10 inches of rain. a 10-foot storm surge means your one-story home could be underwater. people watching potential landfall and as that landfall situation changes, more and more people taking to the highway to try to find safety. dana, back to you. >> dana: let's go to adam housley in key largo, florida. how's it looking down there? >> it's looking pretty empty and that's the good news. they took advice and got out with the first evacuation orders. for the most part and got out,
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there are still some here -- i talked to the sheriff's department, there are some people sticking around. how are you guys going to handle it? the basically next 48 hours? >> we will be active and patrolling the neighborhood, especially in key largo. if they haven't had plans to evacuate, we will have them evacuate immediately for their safety. >> you mentioned a lot of phone calls from relatives outside of the state calling for welfare checks. you have to go to these homes and talk people out of it. so far you have not been able to talk anyone out of leaving. >> we will reconfirm to evacuate. but they have not set in their minds -- they want to ride this one out. >> you see this thing coming. what are your thoughts? >> we pray for everybody involved. the men and women in law enforcement and all the residents that are choosing to stay. >> thanks for your service. good luck. tower pizza, the only place open still in the keys.
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they will close up here. they put the storm shutters over. they will hunker down in a category 5 location. basically that means the location has been built to sustain a category 5. everyone's hoping for the best. the storm continues to move west. that eye is pinpointed to come over the keys. >> dana: thank you so much. be safe. for more specifics on the storm's path, let's bring in meteorologist adam klotz. >> diskettes close to the cubic close. still spinning very tightly. we are expecting it to run basically through the overnight hours before eventually turning north and that's when we begin to see florida get in our eyesight a little bit more. as i said, running along the coast into tomorrow. beginning to do that turn. where exactly it turns, that will make a really big difference on where exactly this
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thing lifts up into florida. currently what we are looking at is the time it takes to move from cuba to south florida. it runs over some very warm water. in doing so, we could see it intensify going from a category 4, back up to a category 5 before making landfall in south florida. it looking at the time frame getting you into sunday morning, perhaps 8:00 a.m. or 9:00 a.m. running up the west side of the state, spinning almost all of sunday, moving up into the monday before exiting and reaching to make wreaking havoc the entire way it goes up the coast. this is what i was talking about, the transition from cuba to florida, you run over some very warm water. that is showing intensity. when that pops up, that the winds getting very strong right as we talk about making landfall. one of the other problems besides that initial wind damage is when you talk about that much
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wind, that's when you start to get a big storm surge. most of our recent models are talking about as much as 10 feet when you get down on the western tip of southern florida. 10 feet above sea level. were sea level is right there at the ground. we could be talking about an entire first floor underwater, it will be very powerful winds. gusts getting up into the triple digits. it will be a nasty storm if it currently keeps the track it's doing, bringing it right up the west coast. >> dana: adam, thank you so much. we are fortunate to be joined -- watching the fox news weather team cover harvey before, what you do is absolutely amazing. how does this compare to anything you have covered in the past? >> there are a lot of storms that are big and scary. certain storms bring dangerous things -- like harvey, it wasn't
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really a byproduct -- of houston. the cat 5 at landfall, that's happened twice in florida and all of the history we are aware of in florida. at florida's population has exploded also. hurricane andrew was the last cat 5 that came in. it was 25 years ago. they were 30 million people living in florida. it was perpendicular. this one is running straight up the entire peninsula and there's 21 million people living in florida now. there are so many people who are going to have hurricane force winds, 150-180-mile-an-hour winds. toppling over power lines, letting everything. this is for sure a scary one. >> dana: how long will this whole process take? >> probably be about 36 hours to get through florida. there will be spots that have 100-mile-an-hour plus winds over ten hours.
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the wind comes and hits you but if it keeps hitting you for that long -- >> they talk about when this is a rain event but this seems to be a wind event. what makes it a wind event versus a rain event? >> it just means we are focused on the wind because that will be the biggest threat without wind, it comes a storm surge as well. there will be 10-20 inches of rain. coastal flooding from the storm surge. it is the wind battering all of the buildings and power lines and trees that will cause powder back power outages. for the people that people that evacuated and went north, there's only one way out of florida, all of the support to get in and get power back on, it could be a while. >> dana: jesse and i were looking at each other in sadness and horror for people that are
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in the car for 20 hours but at least the local and state government had been encouraging it an evacuation for several days the people had some time to plan. >> jesse: governor rick scott has done an amazing job. i don't understand the mentality of people that stay. i know there are different types. your maniacs, elderly, people that just can't leave their house because that's all they have, right. or they don't have the means to leave or family to go to. the people that are staying -- i just feel horrible for them because we heard the people say you can't even called 911. no one will help you. they are going to have electricity or food. what are they going to do? how are they going to get help? >> roadways will be off as well. trees -- some cases, they will be washed out. >> jesse: they can't send people went wind is over 45 miles an hour? the >> rick: true.
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there's plenty of those people -- plenty think it won't be that bad. they formed they warned us that many times. it would you really make -- how do you make the message scary enough for the event that's coming? the hard part is people that don't have the means to get out. they are the ones who really will end up needing help. speak to it you know, i hadn't seen this until today but cops were handcuffing homeless people to get them off the street. then you have the people who are in charge of homeless people in florida saying if you stay on the streets, you're going to die. you can't just be out there. you won't survive. that's shocking to me. there's no way to survive for people that are advocates for the homeless. >> dana: rick, what do we know about the storm damage in the caribbean? we've seen some pictures that have been devastating. a lot of those people have no way to get help, either. as adam was saying, it was built
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to withstand a category 5 hurricane. >> rick: of the strongest on this ever went through the virgin islands and they recorded history. their pictures are terrifying. 95% of the buildings completely damaged and those islands. there's a story behind it. it is not going to come to the u.s. but i want people here to be freaked out about jose but it's a cat 4 storm and it's going to be 20-within 30 miles of those islands again. >> melissa: what are the options at this point? there's still a chance that it moves in a different direction. we always see, i feel like the last moment, it goes east or west. we don't know, it's not so close that it's inevitable? >> rick: it is inevitable. it's going to hit florida. there is no doubt about that. there are not many options, certainly no good options at this point.
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tropical storm force winds by about 6:00 in the morning indicates. we will have the first rain coming in overnight as well. the time is up on that. i had a friend text me and he said i can't get north. i can't evacuate north. i'm thinking of going to naples. i said well, at this point, that might be an okay thing but we are really not sure which way. 100 miles across florida, one direction or another. today he said i was going to naples, what do i do? i'm like well, it could be bad in miami and in naples. that east-west route, you can't really do it. it's being stuck between second and third base. you are stuck, what do i do? all the traffic is here. you don't want to be stuck in your car in one of these storms. >> juan: let's go back and being stuck in the rundown, first and second base. i see that georgia, the governor is also calling for evacuation even as people are coming up into that area to escape the
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storm in florida. >> rick: absolutely. for one thing, georgia will not be as bad. there will be hurricane force winds in southern georgia, maybe all the way up in macon, georgia. you can topple over some trees and cause some power outages. comparatively, that will be minor with what's going on in florida. i also think you have to think about -- what resources am i taking from somebody else who needs it worse? a friend in jacksonville said in my truck has a lot of gas, i would really rather have my car have gas. all the gas stations are full. i'm like, leave your car alone. those people are commuting from south florida to some place in atlanta you need to get gas to get to the house so they can stay with a relative or friend. >> melissa: you made an important point, you don't want to be in your car. >> rick: streets flooded. there's no way out of that.
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we saw in houston, people trying to do something there. the only place out of the car is into the water, flooding into your car. >> jesse: tell me about the buildings. i heard after andrew an '93 that they have new codes where you have to build it to a certain level where he could withstand the wins. if you're going to see winds at 100 miles an hour, web buildings will be able to withstand it and what won't? it seems like residential homes are just going to get demolished. >> rick: 100 miles an hour, it won't get demolished. for ten or 12 hours, it causes a lot more damage. a ton of roof damage. flying debris. branches and trees, light posts, trash cans. all the stuff that's out on the street starts blowing and that wind is going through your windows. >> juan: i don't understand -- melissa and i were talking about this, we are both big fans of disney, how is disney not closed?
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>> rick: i think they are closed for two days. >> juan: seaworld said sunday and monday. >> melissa: maybe they have set up plans. >> dana: we have to set up because we have more on the federal government, doing a lot. let's bring in ed henry. he's at fema headquarters in washington, d.c. >> dana, good to see you. this is fema's national response coronation center. on what they would call a blue sky day around here, they might have a handful of people. two, three, four people monitoring camels, web sites, making sure there's not a volcanic eruption and earthquake or hurricane or natural disaster around this nation or around the world, so that they know what's going on. tonight, there's about 153 people behind me here, just a few blocks from the u.s. capital. these are folks, brave federal workers, who've been working around the clock. in this case, since last
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thursday. they are known as the blue team. two different groups working 12-hour shifts, around-the-clock, literally. making sure the federal response -- it is literally a historic moment in emergency service history. you had harvey, now we have them up but the officials behind me have been working on floods in missouri, forest fires, there are natural disasters all over this country. there are 153 people behind me as i mentioned, dana. about 200 people here in this operation center and existing surrounding forest, working around the clock to make sure they get help to people that need it. >> dana: amazing public servants. ed, obviously fema and the country is stretched in terms of all the resources you were talking about. fema at this point, do they need additional resources in order to be able to help and do what they
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are doing with monitoring? they don't do this on the night of the storm, they are there for the long haul over the course of months in an attempt to help people rebuild. >> they are telling me it's most intense for them before those hurricane force winds that rick was talking about and right after. basically during the hurricane force winds, it's relatively calm because unfortunately, there's very little they can do at the most intensity of the storm. before hand, it is very intense. prepositioning resources. afterwards, i'm told what happens is you have all kinds of groups behind me that figure out first of all, after the hurricane force winds move through florida for example and go to other states, they then have to have assessors go in and look at the bridges, runways, make sure they are in place. if the bridges are messed up, you can't rush trucks and other vehicles in to try to bring food and water and other like that, dana. test is going to cause more loss of life and it's not going to
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actually help anybody. i mentioned the blue team working here around-the-clock since tuesday. they are working right through this coming thursday and then the gold team is coming in thursday to work one week straight. again, two groups working 12-hour shifts around-the-clock. there are a lot of federal workers here who are putting their own lives on pause, if you will. in order to make sure people in texas, louisiana, florida, georgia, south carolina, are getting the help they need. i saw a coast guard to push back official -- all kind of agencies working together and everyone else at the table. the coast guard official was basically saying there was one section in the virgin islands were people were calling in to a coast guard center somewhere else saying what can we do to help? we want to go in and help and frankly, there were people here trying to coordinate so many different response areas that they don't know and so they want to do this in a coordinated
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fashion. anyone in our audience that wants to help, go to the web site. they are trying to update that in real time so the help of our viewers are giving it all around the country actually gets to people that need it. >> dana: if you are a young person that's watching and you are thinking about possible career choices, emergency management, you can do it all across the country and not just in washington, d.c. we will take it around the table with you, add. starting with melissa. >> melissa: 's given that they are still dealing with everything that happened in texas, harvey, how much pressure is that on the system that now we have another hurricane coming in? >> what i have been stunned by so far is officials i am talking to -- obviously there's a lot happening some struggling to hear you -- basically, they feel relatively confident that despite all of these various
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challenges, they are meeting it as quickly as they can. when you talk about the money that needs to get there, melissa, there's a section of budget folks behind me. the split is basically 75% that the federal government gives, fema, and states are responsible for 25% of the resources that go to help people. i am also told that the immediate hours and days after a storm like harvey -- the federal government does not wait around to get a check cut or reimbursement from a state. that would make sense. a lot of times, the federal government pays 100% so when you are dealing with the potential loss of life, they get as much of the resources as possible so you don't have budget crunchers saying where's the $5,000? they have a 75%/25% split. but in the initial hours, they don't worry about that. >> juan: i was interested when you were talking about the
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military. the coast guard. i'm hearing that the military is a major component about the preparation for this storm and that they are sending additional resources through florida. is this correct? >> yes, we have had our colleague jennifer griffin at the pentagon talking about battleships that are prepositioned to try to help as much as they can. there i'll also coast guard officials in the operation center tried to make sure they have the ships and resources to get the help that they need and in particular, the anecdote i mentioned to go -- a coast guard official talking about people in the virgin islands who have already been hit by irma. now saying what can we do to help people who are in puerto rico? again, you have this multilayer of these multiple storms, going to different places, different islands, different parts of the united states and different territories. with the military is trying to do is correlate that as well.
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juan. >> dana: >> jesse: it seems lika as an agency has really improved over the last several years. it had a bad reputation as you know many years ago, it seems to get better and better and better. do you attribute that just to experience and learning from mistakes or from new technology? lastly, what's the morale like over there at fema right now? >> jesse, two good questions. in terms of how if they got better? one way clearly and federal officials i've spoken to -- painfully in some cases, they learned a lot of lessons from what went wrong with katrina, for example. what federal officials are telling me, one thing they learned more than anything is preposition as much as you can. when the storm is heading and immediate aftermath, search and rescue recovery -- when you mention governor scott, what a great job he's been doing down in florida, the key is getting
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people out of these dangerous areas before hand. there's always so much that these federal employees can do if they stay in place as they are supposed to evacuate from. your second question? >> jesse: what is the morale like they are? >> one quick example, you don't hear this about federal employees all the time. people beat up on them and whatnot, when i was coming into fema headquarters, i saw a lot of these employees working around-the-clock -- bringing their kids back to work with them. i saw little children getting on elevators with mom and dad. mom has got a starbucks and dad has something from all pom-pom down the street. when you are doing is, do they bring in food? drink? of course there are critics saying our federal government spending all this money on food. they don't. these people are working around the clock, these federal employees. they have families just like everyone else. they are going and juggling as much as they can.
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the morale i've seen so far is a lot of people seem to be in good spirits and dealing with this -- most of them are huddled behind their computers trying to correlate, communicate, and do all that. i've seen the personal side of it as well. they seem to be dealing with it okay. >> dana: one last question from rick. >> rick: ed, i know a lot of times when there's a big storm and a new storm happens behind it -- it takes up all the oxygen in media and energy. all the energy going towards florida because of her irma, if irma wasn't happening, we would still be talking about houston. there are a lot of people in houston still in desperate need, fema goes in for the long run. if you or someone in houston, is there a message to people they are saying the resources aren't gone, there's still assistance? >> yes, good question. specifically, i don't know how much of what you can see behind me -- there's a red shirt on that chair. there is a group of redshirts. they are doing research support,
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in addition to the federal assistance -- a quarter of army engineers and handling sandbags. the red cross and salvation army just to my left, you have these private groups working in partnership with the federal government to say just what you said, we are not forgetting about the people who are suffering from harvey. and only dealing with irma. they are dealing with harvey. a little bit behind where those redshirts are, their blue shirts. those folks where the blue polo shirts that some press conferences had come up with a focus in our situational reports where they coordinate how exactly to get the resources to the people that need it. quick example, you want to bring in a whole bunch of bottled water in flight into some place in florida. there's only so much runway space. you need to coordinate if the miami airport doesn't have the air space, once you get that
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situational report, i am told by officials here, they need to correlate with someone else to say how are we going to get the runway, get the water and bring it out to the shelters? it's a monumental task but you've seen very hard marks for this agency. as everyone's been noting, they will be challenged yet again. >> dana: ed henry. thank you. let's bring in a person who knows more about them at perhaps anyone else except for maybe rick. dr. ed rappaport. what can you tell us tonight? >> i can tell you that we still have a very dangerous hurricane and what we are most concerned about is the storm surge that we've been talking about. the rise of the water being driven ashore by the wind. we are looking at a storm surge that could be 5-10 feet deep on the florida keys. and then potentially on the south east coach coast of flor.
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these are examples from the past where you can see what storm surge looks like. the kind of damage that can occur. here is the area we are most concerned about, colorized here. along area around the east coast of florida and then the florida keys. all are susceptible to storm surge. here's we where we have a storm surge warning. what that indicates is that there is a likelihood or an expectation of life-threatening inundation. that's what 5-10 feet means. >> dana: how does this compare to storms discovered in the past? you are an experienced professional. you study these all the time. we were talking about it as a historic storm. accurate? >> yes. the last storm even close to this and had some familiar track, back in 1960, hurricane donna. it caused extensive damage.
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it had much less infrastructure. we are most concerned with the florida keys because the water level rise will come close to or potentially top a number of those keys, and then you have the weight damage on top. >> rick: as a meteorologist, i am interested as it why it strengthened back to a category 5 right before landfall. what's the thinking from the national hurricane center on bringing it back to a 5? >> the difference between category 4 and category 5, all that is consequential when we are talking about wins 450 miles -- -- -- 150 miles an hour. same kind of storm surge. you do want to be fixating on the exact track. it's a large storm that will cause a potentially devastating damage over a large area. >> jesse: doctor, i am not a
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meteorologist so excuse me if this is a stupid question, what variables are in play they can either make this thing more dangerous, speed up the winds to make it more treacherous or slow this thing down and perhaps lessen the blow? >> the most significant factor ahead of us now and really the only one is if the center of the hurricane should cross the coast of cuba. it's very close now. we have a forecast right along the north coast before going towards the north. ultimately what that will do, it will bring the maximum wind speeds down but it won't change the overall structure. a large area of working for its wins but maybe we won't have the winds at 155-160 miles an hour. >> dana: dr. rappaport, we appreciate your expertise. more on the massive response to hurricane irma, coming up.
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>> jesse: will come back to "the five," we are keeping track of hurricane irma, category 4 hurricane, probably going up to a category 5 at that may threaten the entire state of florida. evacuations underway and very, very scary. let's bring in adam klotz from fox weather center. >> i'm keeping my eye on south florida. this is a radar image. that storm is still a ways to the south but we are seeing these thunderstorms were closer and closer. a couple of thunderstorms firing up, the brunt of it still a ways away. you are seeing it inch closer and closer. the eyeball of this storm is down to the south running right up along the coast of cuba and as we have learned over the last half-hour, this contract out over the coast a little bit more and get a little bit more land. maybe that slows it down but we are expecting to see this run
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just along the coast which is north of the coast before eventually making a turn. more and more recently, our models are in agreement that it will run to the west coast of florida. i will put it into motion for you. landfall early on sunday morning. both seeing that turn and then basically running right up the coast or to the center of florida, throughout the day on sunday and monday before eventually running your way up into georgia and even there, getting up into the middle of georgia, bringing powerful wins in that entire direction. no surprise, hurricane watches and warnings in south florida will become a warning in central florida before long. i will leave you with this. there is irma, we still have jose behind it. running through some of those same islands. some people who have already been absolutely devastated and have to pay attention to a storm just around the corner. >> jesse: thank you very much. we will be right back with live reports from florida.
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out their guests tomorrow morning by 11:00 a.m. a mandatory evacuation order is in effect for low-lying areas, beach side where we are and everyone in manufactured homes, he doesn't know how many people actually he did that morning but they are opening 21 shelters and we did see people getting ready to get out, at least boarding up their homes. primarily here close to the beach. we saw a lot of people closing up their businesses in daytona beach. among them, rosie and frank marino who opened an italian bakery just over a year ago and are now dealing with their second hurricane since then. how are you prepared? what are your plans? >> boarding up, making sure everything is secure. sandbagging. hopefully we won't lose power. >> is this tough for you? >> a little stressful. >> we did it last year. we did the dress rehearsal. >> not our first rodeo. >> in south daytona beach, be
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some a major sandbagging operation. 400 cubic yards of sand in this one location over the past three days, some sandbagging operations we were told will be up and running tomorrow in volusia county. but that will probably be the last chance for anyone to bag their homes because the storm is expected to get pretty bad starting around midnight tomorrow night, we could have tropical storm force winds into the early morning hours and they are telling us hurricane force winds here in daytona beach by sometime late sunday night, depending on which way the storm goes. >> melissa: rick, thank you. miami-dade struggling with the largest evacuation in its history. downtown miami, joining is now, brian, he looks pretty empty behind it. >> bayside, the intercontinental
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hotel, downtown miami. normally, this is bustling with people. this parking lot over here, full of cars. the intercontinental hotel tonight, keep safe and keep calm, miami. that's the message here. look at, we are expecting a devastating storm surge. over it to my right is bayside. i used to go there as a kid. he would go see mansions, famous people, all the islands, toward south beach. we fully expect the water here, 5-6-foot storm surge to inundate where we are standing right now. that is the holiday inn with wood panels on it. that's evacuated. we are in one of the mip mandatory evacuation zones, some 600,000 plus people in miami-dade told to evacuate. the condominiums over here, the tall towers, there are still people here despite the evacuation order, the lights are still on and i have to stress, as a category 5 hurricane, you
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are talking about 165 miles an hour plus. as you come up those, the winds are felt more and more. when you have a storm surge on the first floor, this is what the officials are worried about. if something happens to you, they can't get to you. that's the problem. they've been warning people that have decided to stay in your to make their condos, go to a stairwell in that sense. >> melissa: wow. bryan llenas, thank you. what we need to know about hurricane irma now, stay with us. (flourish spray noise) (flourish spray noise) (flourish spray noise) (flourish spray noise) the joy of real cream in 15 calories per serving.
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>> this storm has taken lives already and it will take more unfortunately if we are not prepared. please, take it seriously. start thinking a little bit more seriously about getting yourself into a safe place and out of danger. >> rick: such great advice. welcome back. we are continuing to track irma. possibly the worst storm we have seen anywhere in the u.s. and may be about 25 years. i think this is a good time. i always think i'm giving the right information. sometimes i don't know what people really want to know. let's open this up and you guys ask the question. >> jesse: when we look at the
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graphics swirling, what does the red and yellow mean customer >> rick: great question and we never say it. by the way, we make those colors. that isn't necessarily like a standardized thing. every news -- >> jesse: the red looks dangerous. >> rick: the darker the red, the higher the cloud -- the satellite that's looking down on that is picking up a higher cloud top. generally, that means a higher storm. it goes out towards the end for the yellow, that the later part of the storm. >> melissa: my question is about the surge. when the water comes pouring in and they talk about that's what everyone is most concerned about, does the water come in and stay or is it like a wave where it washes in and pulls back out? >> rick: if the storm comes in perpendicularly to a coast, if it comes straight out at, as it does, on one side you have all that water pooling in. once the storm goes out, the rotation of that storm pushes it
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away. it could be up pretty quick event. it was not quick with harvey, where it made landfall. the wind just stayed on shore. >> melissa: why? >> rick: because it was not moving. it wasn't moving. it kept the wind moving in the same direction. >> melissa: what makes the storm move or not move? >> rick: that's a separate question. in this case, the storm is not going to stay in one spot. it is moving perpendicularly or parallel to along the coast. the same orientation as the state of florida is. it's going to continue to see the same direction of wind for quite a while. the storm surge is going to be different. one other thing that makes it different is if you have an elevation gain after landfall. the storm surge, say it is 15-2t elevation comes up, that water cannot go any further. much of florida is flat. a lot of the coastal areas, the
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elevation is to have been 4 feet above sea level. way inland, you can have a storm surge because miles inland in a way that it would not in another place. that's what so concerning in florida. >> dana: within the last hour, there was a tweet from governor rick scott. this is amazing. i don't think we have seen this. a call from -- for nurses. if you think you can help, there's an email for you to check out. rick, you're also rick rick. not governor rick scott. i think people don't realize how long the hurricane season is. i learned this when i worked for the government. it's six months, from june 1st to december 1st. >> rick: you have to have warm enough water for these floods to storm. >> dana: is there a science -- there have been big storms since hurricane sandy. when you are tracking this, what
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tells you if there's going to be a bigger storm season? >> rick: there are a lot of variables to it. there's an oscillation -- >> jesse: >> dana: jesse can sp. >> rick: every 20 years ago, there is an active period in than a less active period, historically. like el nino or la nina, more conducive or less conducive with wins to their being more storms and then water temperatures higher or lower than average? this year, just in place for an active season. last week? six month long but september september 10th -- we are two days away. >> dana: i know you have been up for several days. >> juan: it begins as august as i recollect and goes through september and early october? >> rick: it ramps up.
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>> dana: hurricane sandy was october 30th. >> rick: it was very late. the season is long. >> melissa: second question about whether it's sitting or moving quickly -- what causes it either stall -- >> rick: i'm going to get super nerdy. >> melissa: i love that. >> rick: they are formed in the lower latitudes around the equator, roughly. the earth is rotating. the storms move along the rotation of the earth. >> melissa: okay. >> dana: we follow. >> rick: because the rotation of the earth, the coriolis effect, and wants to curve north. like something spinning -- that energy wants to put it up north. in the atlantic, there is the thing the bermuda eyes, these ss want to move north but there's higher pressure north. it's not letting it move to the north.
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something has to create a weakness in that high-pressure to give it the space to move it where it wants to move. these are cold fronts. low pressure. you need a stronger cold front to create a weakness in that high-pressure and then the storm will cut into that direction. >> melissa: where does the speed come in? >> rick: the speed of it is how strong that low pressure is. >> jesse: melissa, weren't you listening? [laughter] >> melissa: we did not talk about the acceleration. >> jesse: the oscillation. if you are paying attention. >> rick: how big that weakness is, if that weakness is really -- >> melissa: as calculating the second derivative. see? >> juan: rick, imagine that we are back in "the wizard of oz." dorothy has a question for you. dorothy says auntie and tells me to go in the basement and hide. >> dana: that was up tornado.
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[laughter] >> juan: yeah, but what happens when the storm surge comes and you are, as we've heard from certain people in the keys, going into what they think it's a bunker? does the bunker save you if there is a storm surge? >> rick: if you are below, the waters going in. the water comes in and goes up and you have to go to a higher level of your house. >> juan: they are saying if it floods, they can't get you. >> rick: get to the innermost point of your house. at the many walls between you and the outside as you can and less windows between you as well. if you're really scared, put a mattress or something over you. >> juan: not the bathtub. >> rick: put something over you to protect yourself. those are all of my tips. >> dana: thank you, rick. >> rick: some final thoughts coming up in just a moment eds
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houston will be evident in florida as well. we will see you back here on monday, september 11th. much more to come on "hannity," up next. >> sean: many thanks to our friends on "the five." this is a fox news alert. our thoughts and prayers go out to our friends in the state of florida. why? they are in the direct path of a massive hurricane, hurricane irma. it could be a devastating category for ten storm by the time it's the state on sunday morning. pete officials have asked 5.6 million people to evacuate. rick scott is now warning residents to get out before it's too late. on the ground, our own steve harrigan. is it from the storm or suffering apart? >> this is the


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