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shows starting monday. our friends at "the five" are back at their original spot. "the story" hosted by martha maccallum will be at 7:00, and that show, from new york, starts right now. >> martha: good evening, everybody. i martha maccallum. three big stories tonight, one more surreal in some ways than the next. first up, the president on the way to this spot in alabama. he is supporting luther strange for the open jeff sessions senate seat. the other republican has steve bannon, sarah palin, and now current cabinet member ben carson fighting against the president and send it strange. strange, right? okay. we'll take you to the live rally, moments away. then there is this story
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tonight, also very important. repeal and replace it now in deep jeopardy as senator mccain once again says no. >> we need graham-cassidy and we need it now. >> this is not going to be easy. we cannot, in good conscience, abandon this cause. >> martha: our story tonight begins here with these curious case of some critics who are so against the president that they are giving kudos to dictator kim jong un. kim's retort to the presidency when speech went like this. >> i will tame the mentally deranged dotard with fire." then president trump's response. >> "kim jong un of north korea l be tested like never before." that led to these headlines. in "the new york times." "kim jong un calls trump a dotard." how harsh is that burn? "washington post." "sorry, trump. if you were trumped." and this week, from comedian
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chelsea handler, "a little bit more sane. ." that as we learn that kim is considering testing a hydrogen bomb and the atmosphere which could rain down radioactive material all over the pacific. where ever it, god forbid, might crash land. with all that on our plate, in moments, we will talk two former cia officers about this latest threat. also with the trace gallagher e danger of kim jong un. >> martha, kim jong un's and i trump statements marked the first time that kim the younger has ever issued a comment directly against. and and a sign it is escalatingd that kim might be willing to live up to his threats, which is saying something, considering the north korean leader has
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reportedly put his uncle in front of a firing squad, had his half-brother poisoned, and presides over one of the poorest countries in the world, yet has used its resources to build a nuclear weapons program. kim jong un himself has gone on state-run television claiming his country has successfully detonated a hydrogen bomb underground. some remain skeptical of those claims, but there are no doubters when it comes to north korea's rapid firing of ballistic missiles. 22 this year alone, including one the pentagon says could have reached the shores of the united states. some korean analysts believe kim jong un's nuclear weapons are nothing more than insurance policies for his regime to maintain power. but they also believe his behavior is getting erratic and risky. for example, the recent firing of a missile over north japan, had that missile fallen short, as the majority of north korea missiles had, it could easily have landed inside japan and been declared an act of war.
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and many u.s. authorities still say the brutal treatment of american student otto warmbier, who died days after coming to the u.s., very much a provocation by kim jong un. the u.s. president going back to 19 -- u.s. presidents quebec 1969 have chosen not to retaliate against pyongyang, but the tone and tenor and seems to be changing. >> rocket man is on a suicide mission for himself and for his regime. >> as experts point out, there is no backing down in the north korea rulebook. martha? >> martha: trace, thank you very much. former cia officer and former state department spokesperson maria harp, also fox news contributor. first of all, on the media reaction, what do you make of that? >> this shows us that trumped arrange an syndrome is a powerful right now. you have someone in kim jong un
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who truly is threatening not just us but allies in the region, has the weapons with which he could make good on those promises, and there seems to be this effort to create a kind of equivalency, as the north korean propaganda and donald trump streets are somehow in the same sphere, in the same universe, and the reality here is that there should be a bipartisan sense that we face a very real and growing program know my problem with kim jong un, that we face a regime that we cannot really guess what their next steps are going to be, and donald trump is calling him out, calling that regime out, for what it actually is. he is speaking plainly about a program that everybody sees. >> martha: it makes me wonder, maria, you look at this speech, he called out north korea in such strong and specific terms, detailing a young girl who was taken from japan and turned into a slave in north korea. auto warm beer, what was done to him. in a way that we really have
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never seen a u.s. president do. so this is the response, i guess. just making some light of this and some of these responses. >> i think that donald trump's rhetoric could have a positive impact here because some of his rhetoric is so over-the-top. he has made a lot of serious threats, that it might convince kim jong un that if he uses weapons against the united states or our allies, donald trump will respond. that is at the crux of how you deter a country from using nuclear weapons once they have them. what worries me a little bit and what worries other people is that if we get trapped in this really escalate rate rhetoric where keeps getting hotter and hotter and hotter, there is a bigger chance that someone like kim jong un will miscalculate and do something stupid, start a wider conflict that has serious consequences for the u.s., for our allies, and for our american soldiers stationed today. that is what worries me about this tit-for-tat on twitter.
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>> martha: it is a high-stakes game, to be sure. now you talk about a hydrogen bomb, potentially, being sent out over the pacific. that hasn't been done in 37 years. china tried the last test of a hydrogen bomb back in 1980. it's scary. >> at some point, the provocations will be met with more than just words, and i think that is what president trump has been trying to make abundantly clear, but on this point about the escalation of rhetoric, let's understand there has been an escalation of capability from the north korean regime, there has been an escalation of provocation. they have been doing more aggressive, belligerent stuff than they have four years prior to that. the status quo is unsustainable. the way we have been approaching it, really just a fancy way of saying, don't do very much. this notion of kicking the can down the road endlessly won't come with problems. we can see the problems getting worse and going.
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further with these missiles. i think that is what the president understands we are trying to take action on. i should note that the allies we have in the region understand that miscalculation has always been at play here. there has always been the possibility that kim jong un might try to reunify the korean peninsula by force. i think it is better for them to be reassured that we take a strong stance on this and not just the status quo. >> martha: i want to place and on iran with you. this is general jack keane with us the other night, also john bolton. watch this. >> they are trying to dominate an entire region. north korea is not trying to do that. iran has been indicating business for a long time outside of its own country. north korea is in the business inside of its own country. iran, it gets nuclear weapons, martha, will be a global menace that will dwarf the threat from north korea. >> martha: this from john bolton. the u.s. needs to remember that iran could come up by tomorrow, whatever technology they have
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today. both of these, very smart gentleman with a lot of experience, marie, warning that we are neat and also not take our eye off the ball when it comes to iran and not treat iran as if they are a more sane player in this whole game. >> i think what north korea shows us about iran, your options get much more limited when they already have nuclear weapons. today, iran is, yes, a dangerous player in the region, but thank god they can put a nuclear weapon on one of those ballistic missiles today we can debate about how to prevent iran from getting a weapon. i would argue that the iran deal does that and is the best way to do that. i'm sure they would disagree with me. i think what it shows is that when you have an iran deal like that, most experts would probably take it. once you get nuclear weapons, those options go way down, and the cost of military action goes way up.
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>> disagree on the iran deal entirely, the regime hasn't changed one bit, it also hasn't changed all of its aggressive tendencies in the region. they want nukes. they just get a direct path with the possibility of intervention based on obama looking for a foreign policy intervention. >> we'll do this another time. >> martha: all all right. coming up, president trump will be on the ground in alabama in moments. there's a lot of drama here tonight, folks. he is backing one senate candidate, and his former chief strategist in the white house and current cabinet member are backing the other guy. it's a puzzle. we are there alive. we will take you there in a moment. chris stirewalt helps us break it all down. plus, famed attorney alan dershowitz, what got him despaired up? >> who would imagine that a former cia operative would retrieve that. and, i believe, endorse it. >> martha: will explain the back story there straight ahead. plus graham-cassidy health care
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>> martha: the republican push to repeal and replace obamacare facing new urgency, really, tonight, as the latest effort, the graham graham cassidy billh we have talked about all week, has taken a huge hit. hours ago, senator john mccain announced that he will not support the trump-backed bill that was brought forward in part by his dear friend lindsey graham. chief national correspondent ed henry here with the details and hear with the fallout. >> good to see you, martha. what is particularly frustrating for president trump tonight, after the mainstream media spent all this time, his agenda is off track, they have this big front-page story declaring, weight, the white house has momentum on taxes. the door is open to $1.5 trillion in tax cuts. the president was on the verge of two major victories, taxes and health care, and now it is his fellow republicans pulling the rug out from under him. a tiny glimmer of hope for the
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bill, but one has all but said she is going to say no. that means reconciliation, where the president could use 51 votes, that is done at the end of the month. now senate democratic leader chuck schumer can bank on the fact that it will take 60 votes. the president will have to try to find a compromise with schumer and nancy pelosi that falls well short of repeal and replace or simply do nothing at all. vice president mike pence insisted that they are not giving up. >> we cannot, in good conscience, abandon this cause. a vote against graham-cassidy is a vote to save obamacare. it is time for every member of the republican majority to keep their word to the american people.
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>> "the daily beast" reporting that jimmy, wasn't just publicly speaking out against this bill because of his son's health issues. kimmel is also working privately with chuck schumer, getting facts and figures from his office to slam the bill and his monologues. of course, left out, the fact that under obamacare right now, there are people who have lost their doctors, lost their plans, and john mccain's home state of arizona, your premium spiking 115%. people never mentioned that about the current system, martha. also, the john mccain campaign on the idea that he was going to repeal and replace obamacare. he slipped on that. >> martha: you lined up tax reform, health care, the white house was really feeling like the end of the year was going to be a big policy push with some victories. what did they do now? >> the presidents got on this is to basically let obamacare fall apart under its own weight. he has said that publicly befor before. but the democrats eat this long but it fell apart. the present is now going more than we had general john kelly, his white house chief of staff, let's find some middle ground. find some compromise, you know, prop up markets. do something that will win the
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president's praise, it may be. you know this better than anyone, martha. his political base is going to freak out if it is something short of repeal and replace heading into those 2018 midterms. there is a lot frustrated republican voters saying, we've got a republican house, senate, president. >> martha: if you ask what they care the most about, they'll say this. repeal and replace. thank you. i was good to see it. here now, the president of citizens united and a fox news contributor. also deputy campaign manager for the trump presidential campaign. good to see you tonight. >> thanks for having me. >> martha: what do you make of this? >> >> john mccain solidifies his legacy, unfortunately, as a senator for obamacare. coming out and not only doing it once but doing it twice, and to sabotage this president's agenda again is counter to what he ran on two years ago to get reelected.
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it is counter to when he ran for president in 2008, when he ran against barack obama as the republican presidential nominee. it is and at me why we continue to hold out hope for john mccain. i actually hope that rand paul, when he gets a chance to look at this bill, when he sees the power of the bill in granting money back to the states >> martha: -- >> martha: which was in his original bill. >> it's what rand paul stands for, bringing power back to the states, and that is why i hope when rand paul, who has -- i understand that these senators have not even seen the bill yet. when they see the bill, and i believe there is a hearing on monday or tuesday, when they see this bill in the year the facts, i hope that there is a glimmer of hope that susan townes or lisa murkowski and rand paul could be a "yes." and lead john mccain out there by himself.
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>> martha: there is a lot of sweeteners in this deal for alaska. we will see what happens with murkowski. this is from john mccain street. "i remain fairly behind the governor of arizona and will support whatever health care plan he is best for arizona." let's move on to the one that came up from doug ducey. the people of arizona expect us to repeal obamacare. i remain supportive of graham-cassidy and encourage others to do the same. and then let's look at this tweet from president trump on this. "rand paul, or whoever votes against the health care bill, will forever in future political campaigns be known as the republican who saved obamacare." david? >> that's exactly right. senator mccain wants to hold out his vote to say, my governor isn't going to be forward, then this governor comes out for eight.
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there is no reason john mccain is against this bill except to be against president trump. i don't understand why he is feeling the rest of his republican colleagues who has lectured for the last 30 years for being part of the team to help get these types of bills across the line. and he is a big player. he seems to have been, his entire career, until today. it is incredibly disappointing. as somebody who wants to desperately replace obamacare, repeal and replace obamacare, somebody who -- jimmy kimmel, a ridiculous argument. he has all the money in the world and can afford the best care for his kids. i find it a little bit nauseating as somebody who has four children and somebody who has had major health problems in my family, it is not something to hang your hat on, jimmy. you should be looking at this for all the americans and all the american taxpayers out ther there. >> martha: okay. david, thank you. good to talk to you tonight. a lot of great points in there. we are going to keep watching this and we'll see what happens.
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it's not over until it's over. david bossi, thank you very muc much. so any moment now we're going to watch this stage fill up and this crowd probably go pretty wild, as they usually do when president trump walks out there. in alabama, a place or he is very popular. he has taken sides in a fierce republican senate primary. in many ways, politics doesn't get any more interesting than this, folks. the president's loyal advocates are backing the other candidates. and ours ago, one of his own cabinet members broke ranks with the present president to suppoe other guy. who better than chris stirewalt to weigh in on this. he is excited. he's got his glasses on, and it's friday. plus we want to go back to this tragic situation that we have watched all week in mexico city, heartbreak and hard work and a lot of tears. survivors that may be out there still, still being searched for.
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>> martha: tonight, rescuers are running out of time and a search for survivors. it's now 72 hours since the massive earthquake that rocked mexico city. jonathan hunt has been on the ground throughout the course of this. he is now at a collapsed textile factory where they are digging through the rubble tonight as we speak. good evening, jonathan. >> good evening, martha. it has been an intensely emotional day here at what was a four-story textile factory. and tonight, as you can see behind me, a small group of civilian volunteers is still searching their way through what was the basement of that
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factory, hoping against hope that they might find a sign of life. earlier today, after a man was pulled alive from the rubble here overnight, official rescue teams swarmed this site, using every tool at their disposal to try to discover whether there might be more survivors. but then, about three hours ago, all of those hundreds of workers were called together. they all stood motionless. they removed their hard hats in unison. they sang the national anthem. and then this. ♪ that traditional mexican tribute to the fallen marked, as it turned out, martha, the moment
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at which those official rescue crews deemed it impossible for there to be any more survivors. they then pulled out of this site, but as i say, tonight, a small group of civilians still there hoping against all reality and logic that they might find someone. similar scenes going on around mexico city tonight, martha. search and rescue operations still underway, but clearly we are moving, tragically and inevitably, to the point where the mexican government declares this a recovery rather than a rescue operation. martha? >> martha: amazing. i saw that man who was pulled up this morning. absolutely remarkable. jonathan, thank you very much. the breaking news that we are watching tonight is based in alabama where politics are quite interesting this evening. president trump will be there in a moment. he is said to speak at a campaign rally for
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luther strange. strange is locked in a tight primary race with roy moore. both men are trying to reach out to and curry favor and votes from the trump supporters, but the presidents base is split with people like sarah palin backing judge moore. listen to how this is playing out. >> the president supports me. we have developed a close, personal relationship. >> citizens for trump is going to endorse me tonight. a national spokesman. they know what it stands for. >> a vote for judge moore isn't a vote against the president. make no mistake, big luther is mitch mcconnell's guy. >> martha: chris stirewalt, fox news politics editor. i do not think i have seen anything quite like this. steve bannon, sarah palin, ben carson, all lining up with the other guy from president trump. what's going on here? >> i say this admiringly as a west virginia. alabama politics beats all.
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this is really something. basically what you have are people saying that the president is not in control of himself, that he is not the master of his destiny and he doesn't know what he wants. and if you read between the lines on what palin and the others are saying, it is basically, they will determine what constitutes the real agenda of donald trump, not donald trump. you have to pity the president in this situation a little bit. the truth for him is, he desperately needs some wins. he needs a legislative victory. he has a polling uptick going on right now. he needs to try to get this tax cut over the finish line. got to have something on obamacare, got to have all of these things. luther strange has run, essentially, as an empty vessel to channel the will of donald j. trump into the united states senate. he said, i am nothing but a 6'8" funnel that will flow right into the united states senate. these folks say, not good
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enough, because you don't understand the original attitude that they think they more effectively channel than the president. >> martha: you can see the people who are very driven behind things like the wall on the southern border and the disgruntlement that they have expressed in recent days and months since the white house sort of turned over it differently if and kelly came in and they are seen as sort of more traditional. that is the heart of the battle that is going on here, right? >> this is absolutely the truth. conversely, moore is ahead. luther strange is the underdog. but if trump can pull him over the finish line, the president's chances for getting that health insurance bill across next week go way up. his agenda chances go way up if you can deliver a win forte strange, then it demonstrates that he still has the clout to deliver for republicans and that he can make primary decisions and determine primary outcomes.
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if he fails, if palin and those folks succeed in defeating trump's candidate when trump goes to the senate next week and says, boys, this is a tough vote but i need you to vote for this bill. it is complicated, they are going to think, this guy couldn't even get a win in a state that he won the primary been more than 20 points and win the general by almost 30 points. what gives? >> martha: you know what, president trump, there is nothing he would rather do on a friday night. most people like to do other things. this is what he wants to do, and my guess is he's going to go in there very fired up. the stakes are very high for all the reasons he just pointed out. we'll see what happens. he's going to land in alabama, moments away. chris, thank you very much. still ahead tonight, former cia operative valerie flame famous, so when she tweets, it has weight. why is she is apologizing and apologizing today.
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story. >> particularly shocking because this retweet was on the first day of rosh hashanah, the jewish new year. there was a special counsel probe of whether valerie plame was outed as a cia spy in order to seek revenge against her husband. that made plame a hero on the left, but then she retweeted this disgusting story you mentioned, entitled "america's jews are driving america's wars." coming under fire for allegedly being too close to the pro israel left. over the course of less than 40 minutes, it unraveled for plame. "america's jews are driving america's wars." she wrote, first, "calm down. many neocon hawks, she said, are
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jewish. then, fyi, i am of jewish descent, i'm not in favor of war with iran or getting out of the treaty, there are simply too many that are ready to go to war. then she said, read the entire article and try to put aside your biases and think clearly. alan dershowitz said that the problem for me is that he thinks plame was thinking too clearly, as anything with twitter, you sometimes retweet something so quickly it can reflect your real genuine beliefs. >> who would imagine that a former cia operative would retweet that? and, i believe, endorse it. i don't think this is just retreating. if you want to retweet something that you disapprove of, you can say that. oh, read this terrible article about how people claim jews control the media. this is retreating a blatantly anti-semitic article. >> claiming she failed to do her article and missed gross undercurrents, and one word that sums it up, ugh.
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>> martha: thank you. someone who was swept up in the plame affair, judith miller. a pulitzer prize-winning investigative reporter and adjunct fellow. she is also a fox news contributor. this also lead to a difficult and interesting chapter in her life where she spent some time behind behind bars. when you see this, judith, what do you make of it? >> i think that had it been the first time that ms. plame had actually retweeted an article that contained anti-semitic settlement, i would give her a pass and say we all make mistakes, we all have had too much coffee into a little sleep. but, in fact, this is one of several times that she has retreated things that can be broadly interpreted as anti-semitic. but beyond that, valerie plame has really made a career out of a fraud, and that is out of the
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notion that she was an innocent victim of an outing, her own outing, as a cia agent, which caused terrible harm to national security and terrible harm to her family. she went on and on portraying herself in senate testimony and then a best-selling book as a victim. the truth of the matter is, according to john rizzo, who was the former general counsel of the cia, no harm was done to either ms. plame or national security or any of the iraq he is who she worked with when she was at the cia. it was all for audio and so i believe that ms. plame should not only be apologizing for her anti-semitic tweets, the retreating of them, this vile notion that jews brought us to the war in iraq and threaten to do so again. she ought to really apologize for going along and giving aid
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and comfort to the lie that the cia knew there were no wmds in iraq and they misled the country into war. she was part of that narrative. she benefited from that narrative. she has been giving speeches all over the country based on that narrative. and that is a fraud, and it led to scooter libby's trial. he was the aid to the vice president, dick cheney. it led to his conviction. and i have actually written a book called "the story" which attempted to set the narrative straight in which i recant my own testimony at the trial. so valerie plame has been a very important person in the lives of everyone who tried very, very hard to bring honest information to the american people, and for many of us who did not succeed, we never said we were lied into anything. she continues to live on that
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fraudulent narrative. >> martha: just for background background, you refused to reveal your source in the related story to all of this. and then it was later revealed -- obviously this was a very difficult time for you. first of all, on these articles, on this article that she retweeted, as he pointed out, this was written by a person named philip schiraldi, a former cia case officer, and she has praised his work before, she retweeted an article that he wrote in 2014 and said his argument that criticized israel and benjamin netanyahu was "well put." are we to believe her scrambling sentiment now that she didn't do her homework on this issue? that seems far-fetched. >> exactly. she said she was busy moving, but she told her readers to read the entire article, suggesting that she had done so, so either
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she was lying but having read the article or she has been lying to her twitter followers. she was just lying. thank you very much for joining us tonight. we appreciate it. >> thank you very much. >> martha: still ahead this evening on "the story," the patriots head coach dodges questions about new reports of brain damage suffered by ex-player and convicted killer aaron hernandez. >> i'm not a doctor. i'm not a trainer, i'm a coach. the medical department, they handled the medical part of it. >> martha: aaron hernandez has a very complicated background, all of which is a big part of the story. we have startling revelations about the 27-year-old who committed suicide in prison earlier this year. plus, he was once one of the biggest names in wrestling until a leaked sex tape and ugly
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$31 million settlement with a website that published part of a sex tape, hogan undresses the scandal that nearly led him to end his life. here with a sneak peek of the fox series "objectified" ." >> martha: went went through your mind when you first heard there was a sex tape out? you used the n-word in this sex tape. that was a nuclear bomb, right? yeah, it was. when i knew that was coming out, all the lawyers said, if you want to stop, you can stop. you don't have to go forward. there's a huge amount of money being offered. this will never see the light of day. can't do that.
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>> if this tape was never leaked and suppose there was no trial, do you suppose he would be using that word today when you got angry? >> martha: harvey levin joins us now from "objectified." good to see you. there is a lot here. what else really stood out to you and your conversation with hulk hogan about everything he went through and this huge story. >> remember, his life is epitomized by highs and lows. he made wrestling. i mean, hulk hogan made wrestling. popularized it, you know, it became a thing. it was always kind of a thing, but not to a big group. it was when hulk came around. he has experienced those highs come up with his divorce, with his kid, with that horrible car accident where his son went to prison, the divorce, the sex tape, the n-word, all of this stuff. he has taken his share of lumps. but the way he handles it in this interview is different than
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what i expected. he makes no apologies for it. he doesn't try to explain anything away. and i think that actually the way he has taken it in has given him a final, ultimately, strength. but it almost, like you said earlier, it almost killed him. he had a gun in his mouth. >> martha: what did he say about the bankrolling of this lawsuit? bringing down cocker, closing that operation up really, for good? >> the way i see it, and you are going to have to draw your own conclusions from the show, but the way i see it, it wasn't so much revenge against gawker. he talks about getting a phone call when he was urged to settle this thing before trial. from somebody who kind of suffered something similar where one of their relatives was horribly embarrassed by something that had come out and the relative committed suicide.
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he says to me, that call made a difference to him when he got it. it was really not just about getting revenge. it was about trying to draw a line where people should not be able to do that. he wanted to make an example of all of this, and he talks about it. again, this cost him a lot, this trial. he made a lot of money, but he has been damaged from wrestling for life. that wounds him deeply. he talks about that. not like he passes that off like it's nothing. he doesn't. >> martha: i want to go to aaron hernandez. this is a story we have followed closely as well. it has now been revealed that he had severe cte, brain damage, and his family believes, from the nfl, that they are now going to sue the nfl. quick thought on that? >> you've got to remember, this is the fiance suing on behalf of the child that she had with erin, and they are saying the child was denied companionship with a parent because of this.
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look, there are doctors, the doctor who is featured in will smith's "concussion," maybe he even may be committed the murder because of this. what i find stunning is bella check 's -- belichick's deflection, id it hard to believe that wind up in long discussions with the patriot staff and every football team about cte. they should know about this. and the idea that he said, that is a doctor thing. speak no mexican when he is a man of few words. harvey, thank you so much. harvey, thank you so much. objectified, this weekend. oserv harvey, thank you so much. objectified, this weekend. relief that works as hard as you do. we are the tv doctors of america, and we may not know much about medicine, but we know a lot about drama. we also know that you can avoid drama by getting an annual check-up.
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stop the hammering! stop the hammering out there! who has got a hammer? where's the hammer. go up on the other floor. somebody go up there and stop the hammering. >> what's happening in my ear piece? someone is hitting buttons in my ear piece. why is the woman talking about christmas and my earpiece right now. she is literally describing christmas traditions right now. why is this happening? [bleep] who is drilling? why is there drilling? where is the drilling coming from? stop that drilling. stop the drilling! >> martha: o'donnell apologized, which is fine. any of us with voices occasionally in our heads can sympathize. this just made us laugh a lot. that is always a good thing. have a great weekend, everybody.
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give it right here, president trump about to take the stage in alabama at the luther strange rally. tucker has live coverage of that, and we will see you here with more as "the story" goes on. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: this is a fox news alert. moments for now, president trump will be speaking in huntsville, alabama. he has traveled there tonight to rally support for luther strange, the sitting senator from the state, and he is facing a hotly contested republican senate primary runoff. good evening, welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." peter doocy is in huntsville for us with the latest. what's going on? >> tucker, right this second, there is a "build that wall" chant going on, because they came out and put the presidential seal on the field, which means they are here at the arena in

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