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there you go. i do not see any christmas decorations. but i am sure there are some. >> have nice american flag decorations. >> is the sixth night of hanukkah, right? >> yes, happy hanukkah! >> i'm chris wallace. republicans released their latest tax plan. will congress send to the president to sign before christmas? >> this is will relief. it gives people a simpler system and a fair tax code. >> as gop leaders push their measure to overhaul the tax code, we will discuss the bills prospect and what it means for you. the secretary of the treasury, steve mnuchin. then, democrat, doug jones, wens and -- wins the race in
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alabama. >> this tax bill without giving the newly elected senator from alabama the opportunity to cast his vote. >> we will sit down with the senator elect in his first appearance on fox news since the start of the campaign. plus, lawmakers seeing whether political bias has taken over robert mueller's investigation. >> how with a straight face can you say this group of democrats partisans are unbiased and will give president trump a fair shake? we recognize we have employees with opinions but as a responsibility it makes sure those opinions do not affect this. >> they say this shows extreme bias against mr. trump. an hour power player of the week. a photojournalist that has risked her life to show what is happening in the worlds most dangerous places.
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>> they were about to execute him. literally one point i looked over and i said, each one literally was -- >> all of that right now on "fox news sunday". >> hello again from fox news in washington. republicans appear ready this week to pass the most sweeping overhaul of the tax code in three decades. a position among gop holdouts is melted away. and party leaders in congress are looking to have the president his first major legislative victory. in a few minutes, we will discuss what the plan means for american families and businesses. treasuries secretary, steven mnuchin. first, we are live on capitol hill with a preview of both the tax vote in the effort to avoid a government shutdown before christmas. >> good morning chris. the next movement on the tax bill comes tuesday when asked lawmakers hope to pass the bill and send it to the senate where it gets a little tougher. the account there is expected to be so close that the vice
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president, mike pence has delayed a long planned trip to the middle east to be available to cast a tie-breaking vote if necessary. but the president is confident that it gets done by the end of this week. >> we have a tremendous spirit for the tax reform. this is going to be one of the great christmas gifts for middle income people. >> are still seven tax brackets under the new plan but the rates are lower until 2025. the new top rate for top earners dropped from 39.6 percent to 37 percent. the child tax credit doubles to $2000 per child. and the standard deduction nearly doubles as well. the $12,000 for single filers. means fewer people are expected to itemized their deductions. there is a new $10,000 cap on deductions. for state and local taxes. the mortgage interest deduction will be capped at $750,000 and obamacare finds the people that do not want insurance under the individual mandate disappear.
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the first of this week republicans will try to transform the tax code and the second half of the week they're going to have to try to keep the government funded. there will be a government shutdown next weekend if they cannot figure out how to do that by friday night.chris? >> peter, reported from capitol hill. thank you. joining me now, secretary of the treasury steven mnuchin. thank you for coming back. >> thank you. >> can you say that congress will pass the tax plan this week and send it to the president to sign before christmas? >> is a historic moment and we are excited to be here. >> have no doubt that congress will pass this this week? >> i have no doubt. this is been a terrific process with the house and senate working together in confidence. it is a bit bill will get to the president to sign. >> all right, let's run through several aspects of this
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terrific bill as you put it. first fairness. this was senate democratic leader chuck schumer had to say about it. >> god bless wealthy people. i'm glad we have them. but they do not need a tax break. >> let me pick up on that because critics note the tax rate for top earners dropped from 39.6 percent to 37 percent. the top corporate tax rate is cut from 35 percent to 21 percent. and the owners are so-called pass-through companies get a 20 percent deduction. the tax policy center analyzed the earlier senate bill which did not even have all of those provisions and said the top 10, the one percent of taxpayers would get 42 percent of the benefits. question mr. secretary, do wealthy americans need all of those tax breaks? >> chris, first of all, the reason we are lowering the top rate is because we are getting rid of lots and lots of deductions. there is a big part of the country that has state and local taxes that we are getting rid of. in fact chuck schumer has been complaining about taxes going up on the rich people in new
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york. it is not the case. that there are all of those taxes going to rich people. >> what about all of the other aspects of it and the analysis for the tax policy center with 42 percent of the benefits to the top one percent? >> i do not agree with those numbers. this is all about middle income tax cuts. as a matter of fact, i researched, you grew up in chicago. the median family that makes $50,000 is going to get extra money back. close to $2000. in a family making $150,000 in illinois will get over $4000 back. it is very meaningful. and people will see the tax cuts starting in february because we have the irs already working on new tax tables. >> again, just to push this question of fairness. and i take your point that because of the fact that you are doing all right with most of the state and local deductions it will be a tax increase for people in high tax states like new york or california. but still, we have talked about a family that makes over $600,000 a year.
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do they need to have their taxes cut from 39.6 percent to 37 percent? and the so-called pass-throughs, because of the deduction you will give them, you will get a situation where a lot of employees that work those companies will be taxed at a higher rate than their bosses. >> well, pass-throughs are the engine of growth in this country. and this is about creating the lowest tax rate for pass-throughs since the 1930s. that is going to be massive, massive economic is about fixing a broken tax system. we have one of the highest corporate tax in the world with companies leaving trillions of dollars offers they do not have to pay taxes. this is a historic event to fix a broken tax system. >> what about the point i just met you can end up with employees of these pass-throughs, and these are not formal corporations and the owners, they end up paying taxes to the individual tax rate, not the corporate tax rate. the idea that you can have
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employees paying a higher tax rate than the owners of those companies. >> chris, is a complicated tax system and this is about simplifying it. the reason why we have the pastor tax rate is because we believe there will be about $4500 in wage growth that will go back to workers. this is all about creating a tax system good for workers. good for working families. >> let's talk about the point you just brought up because it is one of the other aspects that there is a big selling point that you will be making the tax code simpler. and in fact there was an event i want to show where the president met with top congressional leaders and talked about, this will be so simple you would be able to file your tax return on a postcard. take a look. >> great job! thank you. i do not know i was going to -- >> analysts say that in fact, the gop tax did not end up cutting out all of the
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deductions. it makes the tax system more complicated for millions of americans. especially those involved in these pass-through companies. who are going to have an even more complicated tax system to deal with and will not have any chance of looking at filing on a postcard. >> chris, i cannot disagree. americans will thought taxes on the postcard or virtual electronic postcard for just about simplifying taxes. and signifying the business system. there will always be people who complain that are losing tax breaks but this is about making it simple. >> i heard that originally but you're still saying that over 90 percent of americans will be able to file on a postcard? >> absolutely! they will take the standard deduction and that is what they will file with. we are in the process already of designing new forms so americans do not have thousands of pages of tax forms.
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>> let's turn to the deficit. your treasury department issued a one-page statement this week that was pretty controversial. you said the combination of tax cuts, rollback and regulations, welfare reform will not only paper tax reform but reduce the debt net by $300 billion over 10 years. but the nonpartisan joint committee of taxation, the analysts from congress say, even this tax growth as $1 trillion to the deficit and the head of the committee for responsible budget say no we should believe that one-page statement that the treasury department put out. >> chris, i've been to these numbers. let me walk you through them before. they are rather simple. okay first of all, we said all along that the joint tax numbers underestimate growth. they predicted about 500 billion of growth. there is 1,000,000,000,000 and a half dollars in tax cuts. there is 500 billion, the
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difference between policy and baseline. dad takes us down to 1 trillion. if you look at the other 500 billion, the joint tax gets you down to 500 billion. the growth numbers are just too low. by the way the obama administration and the first four years predicted gdp of three percent. when you left they predicted gdp of 2.2 percent. nobody saying three percent. what treasury put out is consistent with what i have said. the difference between 2.9, which is the conservative number and 2.2 is over $1.8 trillion. that is what the report shows. >> the president was on the south lawn on friday or i guess it was yesterday he was on the south lawn and said, four, five or six percent growth. we do not really believe that, do you? >> that it would have quarters of four, five or six percent growth. i do not think that will have over 10 years but we will have periods of high growth. we have already seen it.
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if it weren't for the hurricane. >> and you think that this tax bill is going to turbocharge the academy to that extent? >> absolutely! you're pretty sinless. the stock market is at record highs. average workers see the 401(k)s going up. they already have more money for savings, they will get more money in their pockets. and it will make the largest change in fixing a broken tax system that we have ever had. people said we could not do it. we will do it and we will see that this week. >> i want to talk about two other issues. the president will release his national securities strategy tomorrow. and there are reports that in it, he will accuse china of engaging in quote - economic aggression. how is china an economic aggressor? and are we heading for a trade war with beijing? >> i will not comment on specifics of it but i have been working with the president on
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it. i was with the president and vice president at dinner last night at camp david and he is excited to give a speech tomorrow. china, we are an economic competition with china. the president has said, we don't have fair trade. we have a big trade deficit. he has made it very very careful discussions with the president. we want to have a more balanced and fair trade relationship with china. >> but is it going to court to call this an economic aggressor? and does not lead to the potential for a trade war? >> i want comment on specifically what is in his speech. this is not about trade wars it is about reciprocal fair trade. if we have to protect american workers and put on tariffs or other things where they don't have fair trade with us, the president will do that. >> you are opening the door to new tariffs on china? >> i think we said we will look at where they are, not have a fair trade. we will look at whatever means we need to combat that for the american workers. >> finally, the federal government is due to run out of
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money on friday. will congress find a way to keep the government funded war -- can you will have a shut down? two days before christmas? >> i cannot rule it out but i cannot imagine it occurring. the republicans and democrats understand if they cannot agree on this they need to have another short-term extension to move this january. we cannot have a government shutdown in front of christmas. >> went with the impact be? >> i will not even comment on the impact i just cannot imagine sending government workers home for christmas. i hope that congress gets this done. >> final question. as someone relatively new to washington, we talk about a two week extension were another two week extension, is is any way to run a government? >> well, that's something we'll talk more about chris. hopefully we will get reforms for different things next year.
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>> always a pleasure to talk to you, sir. i appreciate that you take our questions and answer them directly. secretary, thank you for coming in. >> thank you, sir. >> up next will drill down into the republican tax plan and what it means for you. more people shop online for the holidays than ever before. and the united states postal service delivers more of those purchases to homes than anyone else in the country. because we know, even the smallest things are sometimes the biggest. evethey always refer to me as master sergeant. they really appreciate the military family, and it really shows. we've got auto insurance, homeowners insurance. had an accident with a vehicle, i actually called usaa before
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restraints on discovery, innovation and creation and they will restore the hopes and dreams of the american family. millions of middle-class families will win under the plan.>> the president says
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this will transform the american economy. it is time for our sunday group. -- don edwards, brian, co-anchor of fox and friends and author of the best-selling book, andrew jackson and the miracle of new orleans and i have to tell you, people who know us know that brian and i, brian just admit he has never seen a star wars movie. [laughter] so please, send your emails and texts. >> i can still live my life. >> you do not know what you're missing! let's start with the two central questions about the republican tax plan which by all accounts will be passed. is it a good economy and is it fair to middle income americans? the. >> thing is that the economy appeared on the corporate side these are major changes that will bring our system in line with more advanced western economies. there will definitely be
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progrowth. we don't know how much but they definitely will be progrowth. with the middle class, i think this has been a victim ethical raised taxes were lower and middle income people and it is not true. everyone gets a tax cut under this bill. one of the exceptions is people in blue states, there will as much of the state and local deduction. otherwise everyone get a big minus on the tax bill. >> me off the same to congresswoman edwards. good for the economy, fair to working-class americans? >> i think clearly, for corporations and the super wealthy, the tax bill bill gives them a huge benefit. for middle-class families, urged people to do what i did and what your income in a calculated start running some of these changes to the tax code. i think a lot of middle-class families will find that is either going to be a wash for them where they will end up
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paying more taxes depending on where they live. >> what specifically do you worry about in the bill?>> i worry about a trade-off for the standard deduction even though it goes up. there are >> almost double! >> yes but there are other things people lose if you itemize all of this. some things really hurt you. if you are a family that has, we get the individual mandate, now it is taken away. for many families it means a healthcare premiums will actually increase which then affects their quality of life. this really i think, it is not every formative tax code. anyone that this will be able to do their taxes on postcard, something is i want to sell you. because that is not true. that is what was promised and it will not be a benefit for middle-class families. >> brian, only to join the debate on the merits but also the politics because assuming this does pass as secretary
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steve mnuchin said and everyone else, this will be the first big legislative victory for donald trump. is it enough to go to the voters in 2018 and will help them? >> it will be fascinating. because will have legitimate report card in 2018. is not who has the best slogan for the best message or who has -- i'm not sure immigration will that in either but there will be major legislation felt in february. if you are right congresswoman, the people are paying more and it is not working out and most of the american people say this is terrible. he's going to pay the price. but if things begin to improve and growth rate goes over four and everything is on the right track right now, then that is all you can ask for. if you are president trump and a republican, say, great what i did. when i watch marco rubio and i watch senator leahy and i were senator johnson, all lobby hard to get what they want in the bill. i ask you, where do five or six democrats and conservative districts and state that could
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have done the same thing, if joe manchin iii says get me up there and i am in. this did not have to be like this. >> is all about politics and the midterms. it is all about saying that republicans in the first year of the trump administration with republican house and senate, republican-controlled white house they got something done. they have not done obamacare, no immigration but they got something done. let's get away from all this and say what did the american people this sunday morning think about this plan we met the majority, and majority, more than 50 percent say this is a bad plan for themselves and for their families. mayor bloomberg says this is $1 trillion blender. the joint center on taxation, goldman sachs, citizen bad plan for the economy. so this is not a political judgment. these are people. goldman sachs is in the
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moneymaking business and they don't see this is good for them or for americans. instead i think you have is a republican donor class send this is what we want. we want tax cuts. in their delivering on the tax cuts. >> is not as though they just came up with this corporate tax reform out of the blue yesterday because i needed to pass something. barack obama talked about the importance of corporate tax reform. bill clinton as well. our system is out of whack with the rest of the world and was hurting us. >> i think you talk about tax reform, you've got to keep in mind that the actual rate of these corporations are paying as much lower because the deduction -- >> is a complicated system it makes no sense. that's what you want to lower the rate and not at some of the special interest provisions. >> this is actually, let's be clear. this is not a tax reform package. it does not reform the tax code. what it does is it continues many of the special interest rates and gives special
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interest treatment to certain kinds of corporations and pastor incomes. and it as $1 trillion to the deficit. -- >> let me bring the point to both of you as critics of this plan, the transfer economy is doing pretty well. with three percent growth, four percent unemployment. record highs every week in the stock market. this brings further stimulus to the economy, is not going to be a pretty powerful message going into 2018? >> that is a big f! no economy tells you that the growth rates that are being projected by congressional republicans is actually by president trump himself and so it really is a mistake to call this adding to the growth rate. if corporations wanted to put more money into the economy,
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and that all of the capital in the world to do that right now. there is nothing in the tax reform bill -- >> if you're running a major corporation probably have a very bright man or woman. this is a window of opportunity where you finally have the tax deduction he said is keeping you money while shortened investment away. this is a window. if you do not take advantage of the window, if you buy back your stock or keep it overseas you'll never get this opportunity. -- the market has already weighed in. the prospect of having this past boomed the market. anna continues to rise. mike bloomberg wants to take your guns and take away the combustion engine. he also wants to -- >> the minute you jump the broom and started talk about guns, i understand you are -- >> let's talk about taxes but let's forget politics and the sport aspect of it. let's talk about the reality. reality is we have a very good economy right now.
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stock market booming, low unemployment, did gdp that is growing. we're still struggling with wages and workforce participation. but the reality is that there is high income inequality. americans don't want what paul ryan is talking about. a huge deficit that then says we're going to shrink the government and will cut social security and medicare next year? >> do you see some of the things built into this plan already that will help the working class? >> where? >> higher growth -- [multiple speakers] >> we will have you back later in the show, thank you. up next, senator elect doug jones. his first appearance on fox news since the start of the campaign on what he wants to do in congress after his upset victory in alabama.
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president called doug jones to congratulate him. the senator elect joines is now live. mr. jones, congratulations and welcome to "fox news sunday". >> thank you chris i appreciate the opportunity. >> let's start with what you see as your role in the senate starting early next year. this is what you said on election night. >> we have tried to make sure that this campaign was about finding common ground. in reaching across and actually getting things done for the people. >> given the fact that republicans control the house and the senate and the white house, where do you see an opportunity to find common ground and work with president trump? >> well, chris, i think there's an opportunity at every turn. it doesn't matter what the issue is. there's always the opportunity to find common ground. you know and i hope to that waste good i hope this is not just for republicans that we
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have democrats and reach across the aisle hope it is a message to democrats to find the common ground. it is one of the things we have got to reach across, but it is a two-way street. you have to respond back. and i am hoping we will be able to do that with this new voice and i think it sense of enthusiasm coming out of the state of alabama. >> let's talk some specifics. it looks like the senate and congress is going to pass the tax bill before you get to town. but if you were here this week, if you had a chance, would you vote for this bill or against it? >> well, had to be honest with it is a 500 page bill that just landed a people's desk the other day. i've not had a real chance to look at that and study it as a lot of people have not. which is one of my biggest concerns about the way things are going out there right now. it seems to be plopped into a boat too quickly. obviously why i am seeing and hearing and reading about this,
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there are things i like about it. cutting corporate tax rates. cutting some things for the middle class and increasing the standard deduction. my biggest concern is that the process and although the fact that it will increase the deficit by over $1 trillion. that causes me great concern and i am very surprised that it is going to go. do not buy into the fact that it will grow the economy such that the trillion dollar debt will get right down. i think is a major problem. we will wait and see how it goes. we will start looking at it just in case i am up there ahead of time. it is a complicated bill. it is not the simplification process that we all were told about early on. 500 pages is a pretty complicated bill. >> is talk about another one. this is one you may get a chance to vote on. immigration. would you support a deal that fixes daca and protects the so-called dreamers but on the other hand has tupper border enforcement and includes some money for continuing to build
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the presidents wall? >> i said before i oppose the building of the wall. i think it is an expense to taxpayers just do not have to incur. i think there are things that you can increase for security without having to go to the incredible expense of building the wall. at least the figures i have seen. i do support the doctoral program and left to see that extended. i hope it can be some bipartisan effort to do that. immigration has been one of the toughest political footballs going on up there right now. we have had bills in the past that fell by the wayside because of politics. if there's champions of immigration i think it will be very complicated and it is something that i would love to look at. i know it has been in portsmouth state although i'm not sure it is as important as healthcare and some other things right now. >> this is a good case study and we are talking theoretically because obviously
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there is not a specific piece of legislation. there are things you want. you want the dr. fixed, would you be willing even though you're not crazy about the idea, to include some funding for the wall which is something the republicans want if you get your half? >> let's see how it shakes out. it's hard to talk and hypotheticals. right now you've not seen anybody really trying to reach the compromises. what i am seeing up there as you draw a line in the sand, you've not had an opportunity. i will consider anything. i am up here to try as i've said before, trying to find common ground. i know it's on like a broken record. i also know it sounds like it is high eye in the sky. we have to trying to distance by the american public. rather than just talking and hypotheticals. i leave all of the opportunities on the table and tried to come up with the right way to approach immigration or any other issue. >> the president called you the other day and invited you when
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you come to washington to visit him at the white house. but during the campaign, he said that you, if you were elected would be a puppet of democratic leaders. nancy pelosi and chuck schumer. here are some clips from all of that. >> you don't need a liberal person in there. a democrat, jones, i look at his record. it is terrible. it is terrible on the borders, terrible in the military. >> he likes doug jones and looks forward to meeting him in person. >> so, which donald trump do you believe? the one before the election or the one after? >> i am going to believe the one after. you say a lot of things in the heat of a campaign. we are expecting that kind of a checklist of things. but his call to me was very gracious it really was. no substance but a personal call. i'm looking forward to meeting
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him. i am looking forward to getting up there and trying to find the issues we can work together on for the country and the state of alabama. >> you know, the line of questioning i've been engaged in and i think a lot of reporters since your victory is answering the big question here in washington which is, which kind of a democrat will you be? you talk a lot about your mentor when you worked here in washington in the senate, he stepped down as alabama's last democratic senator 20 years ago. leave a picture of right now at a committee meeting. there he is in a much younger doug jones right next to him. kaplan was ranked as a democrat with the most consistent record of support of any democrat during his time in office for ronald reagan. you see yourself as a sin kind of moderate or even conservative alabama democrat? >> you know chris, i will be candid. i have resisted trying to put labels on myself. people are going to do that left and right. i tried to resist that and i will continue to resist that.
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i will be a doug jones democrat for sure. i'll be looking at issues on both sides. i will do what i believe is in the best interest of the country and my state. other people will label me. i think the world has changed a little bit and i think politics has changed. all i can do is try to go forward with what i believe is the best thing to do. that is the only thing i can do. we will see how this shakes out in the next year or two to see what kind of labels you guys in the media want to put on me. >> and we will! [laughter] two more questions i want to get in. your opponent, judge roy moore continues to refuse to concede. he says the race is not over and this week he issued this video. >> today we no longer recognize the universal truth that god is the author of our life and liberty. abortion, sodomy and materialism have taken place of life, liberty and the pursuit
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of happiness. >> what is your reaction to that? and do you think that roy moore is continuing this -- >> i'm trying to find out what the judgment means when he says things like that. i do not find this in america where the mainstream alabama. i think it is time to move on. i think he is hurting the people of the state. i told folks i want to represent everyone. i'm not going to be a senator which people will agree with 100 percent of the time. but i am going to be the kind of senator people can talk to. they can reason with. i want to get an education from them and i want to educate people. i think he is hurt and i think it is time to move on and let's get beyond this divisive rhetoric that you hear from him and others. >> final question. you're not up for reelection until 2020. i want to ask you about the 2018 midterms because some folks say that your victory as
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well as the victory of the democrat and the governors race in virginia put out a kind of blueprint, a game plan for how democrats should proceed in 2018. i want to put up some numbers on your victory. you won the black vote. the younger vote, 62 percent to 36. women 55 to 43. an independent, 55 to 42. question, how do other democrats energize those killers of the traditional party base the 2018 midterms? >> well, you know chris, i think anyone that runs for office ought to talk to those people. i think that was one of the things that we did early on in the campaign and we went straight on issues. roy moore did not talk about issues that we have in common. we talked about issues that were divided. i think we talked about the issues you have in common. of all this gift they'll have
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the same issues about healthcare, education, jobs, economy. trying to raise a living wage. those are the issues people responded to. and i think whether it is democrats or republicans, i think people now have to start focusing on those issues. not just depend on whether or not there will be a straight ticket vote. >> senator elect, jones, thank you. we will see you up here in washington pretty soon! >> thank you chris. i look forward to it and thank you for having me. >> and the fbi under fire. the president launches topic criticism of the, what would you like at the panel about allegations of political bias in the fbi? but the facebook or twitter and "fox news sunday". we may use your questions on the air.
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with the fbi. look at documents and how they have done that is very distrustful. cumulative very angry people. >> the president taking aim at the fbi after the release of anti-trump text messages between two senior officials. peter struck and lisa -- were involved in the special counsel investigation until last july. we are back now with the panel. the washington post had a story this weekend i don't know if you saw this it said that these texts back and forth between them were really an effort to cover up the fact that they were having an extramarital affair. the question i have is those that cleared up for you? >> yes. we have some time so i will fill it. you have to be kidding! the one thing that stood out on the text messages more than anything else was the fact that they were building a plan just in case in august 15 i think
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even referred to as earlier in the show, on august 15 they were going back on text message talking about a plan just in case donald trump one. and they went on to say just like an insurance policy -- >> let me put this up on the screen. if we can. this was the text that peter struck sent to lisa page on august 15, 2016 and it says, i want to believe the pacu through out for consideration and andy's office. we think that was an official in the fbi. the path they hernandez opposite there is no way donald trump is elected by afraid we cannot take that risk is like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before -- continued.>> and charges they put any republican that was worried are on the fence that might have been any bias against the top level the fbi. in against the candidacy. it is preprocessed. unless it is andy griffith who started his own series had
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great success. >> proof positive there is anti-trump bias at the top. and peter struck was at the top of the investigation. and this is where -- when we get back from christmas. >> we ask you for questions for the panel and we got this as a tweet from john h converse that's right, we demand that the military be apolitical on duty although we love them to have political ideology. is it too much to demand the same of the fbi, doj and how do you answer that? >> the military has been political opinions. said to people that are jurors, lawyers, judges. who are fbi agents. we are human beings! >> but if a judge, if we had read the statements that were like favoring one side against the other, they would be forced
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to recuse themselves. >> that's not the point. i was speaking to your point. the fact that she write them down here -- the question is integrity. can you perform the job despite opinions? we know according to the attorney general, the deputy attorney and the fbi director just this week, all have said, the fbi is performing its job very well. >> we are talking about lisa page and peter strzok! >> this whole discussion, it is interesting because it is all part of the trump legal team assault on the integrity of law enforcement in the country. intended to distract people from the potential, the investigation into ties between the trump campaign is officials and russian interference. and this is all set up potentially --
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>> we will get to any minute. rod was assigned testified before congress this week. he took some heavy fire from republicans on this issue. take a look. >> how with a straight face, can you say that this group of democratic partisans are unbiased and will give the president a fair shake? we recognize we have employees with political opinions. it is our responsible to make sure the opinions do not influence their actions. >> and we hope that he will be able to -- [laughter] congresswoman, look, no one is talking. no one is talking about the fbi in general. everyone agrees that it is a good solid agency. return the individual actors here. when you read those texts, where they just trash trump. they say he is lonesome, and idiot. and specifically in august 2016 they talk about you know we have to have an insurance policy in case he gets elected.
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you do not find that troubling? >> and so what? give to employees having affair. they were taken off the investigation in july last year. and now you have a series of indictments that have come from the robert mueller team. this line of questioning attacking robert mueller in the investigation, based on a couple of employees who had an affair and were covering that up in writing stupid emails, so what? >> a lot of these texts are stupid and embarrassing. not necessarily sinister. the sinister one is the insurance policy text. we need to hear from peter strzok under oath about what he meant by that. i also think there is enough now to be right about the investigation.i think that robert mueller for his own good, should dismiss andrew wiseman was a democratic partisans also anti-trump emails were sent. jeff sessions should bring in outside district attorney with
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independency look into the entirety of how the doj and fbi handled 2016 and to get to the bottom of it. but if donald trump takes for all of this, a permission slip to fire robert mueller, it would be catastrophic mistake. the irony as far as we know, looks at robert mueller is not turning up evidence of collusion. i think donald trump can just sit tight, robert mueller probably vindicate him at the end of the day. but firing him will do more damage to trump. >> ef3 different white house officials. congresswoman spires said, it is location. -- >> what did she say? >> she said we were on the hill before christmas he will make a major speech and say that robert mueller is fired. they said we do not even discuss that in private conversations and it has not come up. three different people who work at the white house to make sure i had the right information because i know you demand it, -- >> don't go single source on
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me! about watergate here! >> i great people here to debate with but that will not happen. what happens, if donald trump wants us to and comingb& he would like to have a presidency without this hanging over his head. >> that he needs to stop attacking special counsel. stop attacking robert mueller and you need to let the investigation play out. [multiple speakers] >> has there ever been an independent counsel or special counsel investigation of the president that has not had a partisan reaction? lubbock of the 1990s. the democrats were not very nice to ken starr. >> yes but this takes it to another level. was i think, people talk about colin kaepernick, black lives matter. undermining trust in the police. they have done nothing as comparable to what this president has done to the fbi at this moment! >> the fbi also hurt its own credibility bequests all right!
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do you i like about this panel? i did very little work! up next, our power player of the week. the remarkable woman that took these powerful pictures on the front lines. to homes than anyone else in the country. because we know, even the smallest things are sometimes the biggest. >> if you ever read the new
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york times or national geographic for "time magazine", chances are even seen her work. riveting photographs that bring the savagery of the front lines into your home. here is our power player of the week. >> i never considered myself brave.just consider myself very committed to the story. and that takes me to places that are dangerous. >> lindsay was one of the great photojournalists are the last two decades. just listen to where she has worked since 9/11. >> i've covered afghanistan, iraq, libya, congo, south
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sudan, somalia. >> question? why? >> their great injustices that go on in war zones and fundamental for someone to be there to document that. >> 2004. >> there were skeletons across the desert. people fleeing for their lives. things being burned to the ground. >> in 2007. >> woke up, put on my night vision, take this picture and went back to sleep. >> then pakistan 2000 and with the caliban. with a story that one pulitzer prize.>> if they waited on they will not kill you. it will protect you with their lives. we knew where we hoped that once we got there, because it had been invited, they would not kill us. >> and aircon says for the journalistic reporting on positive libya are now missing. >> but her luck almost ran out. when she and three colleagues were taken prisoner by
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kentucky's forces in 2011. >> they were about to execute us. and where literally, what what i looked over and i thought i set each of my colleagues fighting for their lives. i remember i could barely speak. this said please. at that moment a commander came over and said you cannot kill them there americans. >> lindsay addario and the others were beaten and held for six days. then finally released. two months later, she went back to work. not on the front lines but still, gaza and afghanistan and senegal. by now she was pregnant. >> did your family, did your friends, did you question what the heck you are doing? >> the fact is i was pregnant and i was surrounded by pregnant women and it was the most natural thing! >> i was struck in the wrong place. >> her son is six now and when she comes home he sits on her
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lap while she edits her pictures. sometimes of war refugees. >> he asked about war. i say people get killed.and he's a zombie you get killed? an intimate side, how can answer that? because i cannot like him. so i just say, i will be fine. >> why did she get it? has she risked her life these last few decades? why does she keep risking her life? with lucas waiting for her back home? >> i do not need to take pretty pictures anymore. it is not at all about just being there to travel and take a picture. it is really about the storytelling. about journalism, about truth, telling people stories about making people care about things they wouldn't necessarily care about. i think that this for me is my calling and my mission. it is what i believe in. >> lindsay addario wrote a memoir which is now in development as a movie starring jennifer lawrence. her story is called, it's what i do. that is it for today. have a great week and we will
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