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more news, journal editorial is next. ♪ >> no child, no teacher should ever be in danger in an american school. no parent should ever have to fear for their sons and daughters when they kiss them good-bye in the morning. we are committed to working with state and local leaders to help secure our schools and tackle the difficult issue of mental health. paul: welcome to the journal editorial report, i'm paul gigot, that was president donald trump reacting to the valentine's day shooting in high school in parkland, florida, the president and first lady travel to go that community friday night to meet with first
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responders and survivors of the massacre that left 17 people dead and more than a dozen injured in the wake of the attack new concerns over missed warning signs about the suspect, 19-year-old nikolas cruz and police responded to home a dozen times and a person close to cruz contacted them in january to report concerns about him including information about cruz's gun ownership, erratic behavior and disturbing social media posts, dr. sally, practicing psychiatrist and also resident scholar at the american enterprise institute, welcome, good to have you here. >> thank you. paul: so when you see a profile like this and the details about this young man emerging, what's your reaction as a mental health specialist? >> well, the keyword is emerging and all of this is very pat in
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retrospect. you can also connect the dots when you look back on it but even at the time the things that we did know in realtime were that there were as you say 39 calls to the house for domestic violence with some sort of disruption, from 2011 to 2016. that's a small span of time for so much disruption. he was expelled from school and before he was expelled not even allowed to carry a backpack because the school was concerned about weapons and apparently he had shown bullets. he has discussed guns and showed pictures of dead animals to classmates, everybody had a sense that this young man was quite disturbed. the question is and we still don't know all the details is what did people try to do. paul: right. >> for example, did his mother -- obviously she called the cops but did he try to get him some sort of civil commitment. did she at least try to get him
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a court ordered evaluation? we don't know what the formal diagnosis or symptoms were. we don't know what his iq is, he's adopted, we don't know the mental status of his parents were, that may never be known, that could be hard to find out but there are so many details yet to emerge. paul: well, when you -- i guess the question is as a society which wants to maintain order and protect particularly its children be all of us from these kinds of massacres, what is the threshold that you need to intervene and in this case, i mean, even if we don't know everything, should -- should they have intervened? >> as i say in retrospect it's all easy, yes, it looks like as if there were ample opportunity for intervention, you know, i'm obviously a psychiatrist and not expert in guns, but as mentally -- somebody with history of
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mental illness and i'm not talking about the young man bus he did have history but not formal history in record books but if someone has been involuntarily committed they cannot get a firearm. it's just something to think about but when you have a young person obviously history has to start somewhere, people aren't born with history, he established one, if someone -- if there's a record of so many calls to the house for violent episodes, if is school is so concerned about the child menacing behavior, why wouldn't that go on the record somehow and be a red flag for painting a gun at least until age 23 or 35, obviously something to discuss, the mechanisms of how that would work or complex, but we need, i think, to think about all threshold especially when it's a young person with a history like this. paul: what would be the process by which you begin intervention, that happens with parents, the mother died in november and the father died years ago, he was in
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alternative home, people agreed to take him in, a friend, but is this something that would be triggered by medical profession if he had one and didn't need to have one or can people at school or in law enforcement do the committing? >> i believe from for a minor they can all approach a judge in context of question of civil action, civil commitment, maybe not in an institution necessarily but at least requirement that he go to mental health care. he was in a clinic for a while but he dropped out. now, were they -- was there attitude, well, he's troubled but we don't have to worry so much, or were they worried and not acted. florida, excuse me, florida is a state that's notoriously underresourced in terms of mental health care. very few beds and sheriffs in florida have the capacity to bring someone in for sort of a
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civil hearing and civil evaluation. so, you know, i have to say again, the details will come out, but we really have to find out in a microscopic way where the breakdowns were. right now we have more of a global picture. paul: okay, so the president has said he will convene a task force conference of law enforcement, state politicians, medical specialists, if you were invite today that conference, what would you tell him? >> i think i'd tell him not to cut some of the programs that it looks like might be on the chopping block in terms of substance abuse and mental health service's administration. we are putting a lot of money into opioids and i certainly think we should, actually addiction psychiatrist is my specific area, but we can't do any of that at expense of cutting programs for schools which look like they maybe endangered and maybe medicaid, again, not into health care reform, but the point of the fact that medicaid has provided
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mental health care for many people, if that's not the mechanism that's preferred, fine, but we need funding for that as well. >> okay, dr. satel, appreciate you being here, thank you. >> thank you. paul: still ahead the justice department indicting 13 russians for meddling in the 2016 presidential campaign. what the charges mean for president trump and the future of the mueller probe when we come back. and supported with workforce development to create even more opportunities. all across new york state, we're building the new new york. to grow your business with us in new york state, visit esd.ny.gov.
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paul: justice department on friday dieted 13 russians nationals and three russians companies for alleged meddling in 2016 presidential election. the 37-page diet unveiled by deputy attorney general rod rosenstein contains no evidence of collusion between russia and the trump campaign but instead documents a broad social media and propaganda effort operating out of russia with the goal of
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sowing discord in the u.s. political system, rosenstein said friday that there's no allegation that any american knowingly participated and no allegation that the defendant's actions affected the outcome of the election. let's bring in wall street journal columnist and deputy editor dan henninger and columnist kim strassel, so, dan, i think the value of this indict is -- indictment the level of detail of the russian operation to so discord? >> using all of our social media websites and millions of dollars being spent, let's go through the timeline, though, because it's very telling. this began back in early 2014 and they got up and running and they are doing this through 2014, 2015 into the campaign through the election, all right. at that time who was president of the united states? barack obama.
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james clapper, director of national intelligence, john brennan running the cia, james comey, director of the fbi. january 2017 after the election the clapper report comes out saying that we have evidence that there are russian and cyber-attacks going on and we should be paying attention to this. after that, the narrative starts in the press that there was collusion, the word collusion between the trump campaign and the russians. this proves there was meddling, but no collusion. so why didn't they reveal what was going on at the time it was happening? paul: that's a very good question. if they didn't know, why didn't they know because you'll think that they had the ability to know at least a lot of this -- if they did know, why didn't they say anything until after the election, were they going to keep it quiet if hillary clinton had won, that's a very important question and let's talk about
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the collusion issue. trump is saying no collusion, therefore i am vindicated, but, in fact, we don't really know what else mueller might know regarding contacts between americans and russia. >> well, that's one of the problems with indictments is that they don't exist to exonerate people, they are about detailing about what crimes we do happen. you have crime critics saying it does not exonerate him, word unwitting that russians did communicate with trump campaign but officials were unwitting and they did not know what was happening to them. so the question is, is there a different team out there and completely entirely different one that the russians were engaged in that mueller is firing up that could deal with collusion, it's possible but seems as though this is the -- this is the deal, this is what the clapper report was referencing and we've got to wait now and see what the mueller probe does next and when they decide if ever to close up
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shop. paul: clinton partisans are saying, well, this was big enough operation that could have turned 70,000 votes in a couple of key states and therefore the election and they are doing that, of course, that clinton lost the election not by dent of her own miserable campaign but russian influence. there's no way to know that is there? we have a campaign that's loud and countercharges so much information, we don't know how much this would have influenced many votes? >> no, look, i think the important point is they actually do reference money amounts, there was a budget for this operation, we are talking about millions of dollars here but in the context of a presidential campaign in which you get billion dollar figures, this is not the kind of thing that could potentially have made an enormous difference and remember too that a lot of this effort went not to necessarily helping a one campaign or hurting another but on issues, they were
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trying to foment, they were particularly told to target people that were unhappy with social and economic situation and just try to put discord in the political system. paul: if barack obama didn't impose sanctions in january for this effort, that's puzzling to me. but trump's response to this, you know, he keeps saying, look, this means there was no collusion, okay, there's no evidence of that, but i guess my question is, why doesn't he put put i on notice and say, look, you do this again, i mean, publicly not just privately, you're going pay a price for this because we noticed this and it's unacceptable. >> that raises a good point. after indictments mr. trump put
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tweet out that there was no evidence of no collusion and he's right about that so far, so far, but the main reason so many people suspect that something might be going on is that during the campaign and after donald trump would say such admirable things about vladimir putin and how he had a relationship with him and he kind of liked vlad, no one understood why he was saying that. if at this point he publicly puttys tans between him and vladimir putin repudiating the statements, i think that would go a long way towards knocking down the collusion narrative which at this point is very weak. paul: the other point i would make that facebook, twitter and google who were the vehicles for a lot of this information they need to put a lot more control -- >> they look like dupes. paul: thank you, kim. when we come back the senate fails deal on immigration leaving the fate of hundreds of thousands dreamers in limbo, is
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finally and senior fellow jason riley. why did this fail? >> well, basically the right pushed the bill too far. trump issued a veto threat at the last moment on thursday morning warning that this could actually -- paul: compromise. >> compromise version negotiated between two republican senators had backing of 8 republican senators and 7 democrats and likely could have passed that this bill would undermine border security, lead to flood of illegal immigrants coming in that would hurt american workers and a lot of hyperbolic rhetoric. paul: a loss by six votes, basically. >> right, almost all democrats voted for the bill, we don't know if they would have if president trump hadn't issued his veto threat.
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paul: probably. >> enough would and garnered enough support from other republicans, moderate republicans. paul: jason, this is what puzzles me, the wall, one of the symbolic proposal, he got the money for it, why? >> i think the president has gotten too greedy on this issue. he has to decide whether he wants partial victory or total defeat. that's the decision he needs to make. traditionally the trade-off here is legal status for the illegal dreamers versus border security, instead the restrictions wanted more. we want absolute reduction in legal immigration as well. paul: they used this as political ledge to get large part of additional agenda. >> and that is the bridge too far here. not only for democrats, paul, but for a lot of republicans, trump's position is to the right of most of his party. that's his job. paul: even the compromise version that allysia talked
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about, they made vows to reducing family chain migration, that you couldn't bring across parents, for example, couldn't sponsor parents and even current residents couldn't bring in adult siblings. >> i think the lesson here when you go back to bush administration or obama administration is you need to go small on immigration. when you try to bring in too much diversity visa lottery, employer security, e-verify, gets too big and complicated. i think you need to go small and the hardliners are asking -- they want to do too much at once. paul:i don't get the politics from the president's side he could have said, i've got the wall, i solved the dreamer problem that bush couldn't solve and obama couldn't solve he could march here to 2020,i did something nobody else did. >> but he's not going to be able to do that, right -- paul: if it
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fails, he won't. >> what do you we mean by political, the republican and democratic parties are engaged and do back and forth, they are both trying to negotiate for a position going forward. president trump is the one who said off and on during campaign he wanted to do something about the dreamers, he gave them a deadline of march seventh, they went through the process and now has collapsed, that is a failure, that's a political failure, someone is going to get the blame or take the pot for the political failure and going forward, if you're a restrictionist you say, nothing has happened, i'm happy. the democrats will drive the issue and drive up base. tax reform was a positive thing, it was a success. deregulation is a positive thing. this is a negative. i don't see how this helps the republicans in november. paul: do you think, allysia,
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this can be resurrected but i have been talking to republican senator this week that said maybe we can do a one-year or two-year extension on the dreamers legislatively to work permit that is expire on march the fifth and kind of kick this path for 2018 election in. >> right, i think some democrats may be reluctant to do that. i have heard the same thing, border wall in exchange two years of extension of daca. then the question is are we ever going to get this done and this continues to raise uncertainty for the young adults who don't know. paul: 700,000 who have come out of the shadows look, here i am, they are subject to deportation if this -- once their work permits expire, jason. >> yes, yes, they are. with republicans controlling congress, republicans controlling the white house i don't see how they don't take -- there's a lot of sympathy in the
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polls. paul: even among republicans. a majority. >> because trump will have not fulfilled the campaign promise, he won't get wall and won't have done something for dreamers. he said he would do both on campaign trail. paul: really puzzles, white house chief of staff john kelly under scrutiny of handling of allegations on former trump presidential aide, is the white house staffing process working the way it should? we will ask karl rove next.
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paul: chief of staff john kelly ordered overhaul friday of white house security clearance procedures in the wake of domestic violence allegations against former staff secretary rob porter, kelly came under increasing scrutiny for his handling of the porter case after christopher wray offered a timeline that differed from the one provided by the west wing. wray told congress tuesday that the agency had briefed the white house on several occasions about the status of porter's investigation. submitted a completed background check in july and closed the file last month without granting porter permanent security clearance. kelly had defended the white house handling of the matter earlier this week telling the wall street journal, quote, it was all done right. karl rove is a wall street journal columnist and former senior adviser and deputy chief of staff to president george w.
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bush. welcome, karl, so do you think that as john kelly said this was all done right, admittedly you're looking from the outside, but what do you think? >> i doubt it and i think he was probably misled. let's go over what we know. we know that on january 25th, of 2017 one of mr. porter's previous wives, the one who was hit in the face and had a black eye was interviewed by the fbi as part of background check, by march they had preliminary analysis that they shared with the white house, by june they had final report, they submitted in july, there was one leak from the fbi that says they told the white house in june that he was unlikely to get a permanent clearance, the white house raised questions, the questions were answered by november and the file was administratively closed in january 20 -- of 2018. what that means is that the white house knew as early as march and as late as july that there was a real problem with
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this one, somebody raised some questions, perhaps about the underlying charges by the first two wives and the former girlfriend and those were answered by the fbi no later than november. but the question is who inside the white house knew this -- paul: mostly in this kind of situation my understanding the way the white house works is this stuff -- this evidence will be presented to general counsel -- i mean, the white house counsel and then say, wow, okay, this doesn't look good and go to chief of staff and say we have a problem here, sir, because we are talking about a senior white house aide and they would say, having talked to the individual or they would have to say, get his side of the story and then make a judgment on it or say, this just is not going to work, you're going to have leave mr. porter. >> right, that's how it would work in some white houses. the white house personnel director plays a role but we don't know. that's one of the mystifying things about this, it's never really been clear what the process was.
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this doesn't go directly to chief of staff, you want it to be reviewed in most instances by legal counsel and then chief of staff. i cannot imagine that the white house counsel's office took this to the chief of staff in june of last year and general kelly was caught unawares by all of this. i can't believe that. paul: he wasn't chief of staff until july. >> right. paul: what about the calls that for general kelly now to step down as chief of staff, do you think that would help president trump? >> no, i think that rather than fixing the problem the opponents of general kelly, i think some of the comments that have been made about this being largely voiced by people inside the white house who don't like being constrained from their activities like general kelly has constrained them and from outside advisers who want to have unfettered access to the president to cause him to spin off on a moment's notice, those are the people who are calling for his departure, yes,
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ultimately somebody has to be held accountable for the failure of the system to look at this problem and raise the problem to -- and conclude by saying, mr. porter, now matter how worthy he was in his job need today leave the white house, but i don't see -- i don't think the responsibility lies with general kelly, one as you say, he came in july, this was known in march, known in june, the question is with us he briefed about it in july, i find it hard to believe that he was briefed about this when he arrived and allowed mr. porter to remain. paul: it would be difficult to have third chief of staff particularly replacing general kelly who seems to have posed order and discipline on chaotic white house. >> the white house couldn't afford to have another chief of staff, a third chief of staff within a year and a half and he said the white house has only had one chief of staff who has been able to bring order inside the building and that would be general kelly.
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paul: all right, let me change briefly, karl, to immigration, you saw the collapse of the bills, now we will have a blame here over who did to who and what, who do you think gets the most of the blame for the failure of doing something about the dreamers? >> well, i think the panel is right, it's going to fall on the president and the republicans because the republicans hold the white house, the house and the senate, however, there is a big pile of manure underneath the christmas tree but i'm one of those people that thinks there's a pony in there. i had some conversation today with some senior republicans on the hill and, look, there are two avenues to movement here, the senate seems to think that the conversations are going to continue, they were not helped by the president's veto, absolutely did not help the process. the house, people on the house side seem to think if they can pass a bill, even if it's more
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restrictionist than what the senate will accept, this will keep the movement towards some kind of reform going forward, so i'm not certain where -- we are at tend of the drama and not helped the president saying you have to support grassley and that's the only measure i will support. the senate sent him a message that only 39 people voted, he would have been better off by complementing the process and standing back and letting the process move forward rather than trying to call premature into it. paul: thank you, karl rove, appreciate it. when we come back, some good news for republicans heading in 2018 midterms, the new poll showing gop pulling each with democrats in generic congressional ballots and approval rating up. what's behind the shift and will it last? hey, dustin. grab a seat. nice to meet you.
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paul: some good news this week for republicans heading into the crucial 2018 midterm elections with new poll showing the gop pulling even with democrats in the generic congressional ballot. 39% of registered voters say they support the republican candidate for congress in the latest political morning poll while 38% would back the democrat. that same poll showing a bump for president trump as well with 47% of voters approving of the job he's doing as president with same percentage disapproving. we are back with dan henninger, allysia finally and jason riley. jason, it's only one poll and the generic is still wider than the average but this is interesting because of the timing. >> and also it's trending in the right direction for republicans that generic ballot, i think it was around 13 points back in december, now it's down to 7 points in the real clear
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politics average. approval rating is up. i think obviously the tax cut happened and the media trashed it, it was polling very badly itself but then people started seeing the raises, the bonuses, higher matches, are we going to believe new york times or pay stub, i think that's what happened. so trump is seeing the benefit of that tax reform. now, there are some caveats there, independents you still need to see movement there for republicans, women, you are still -- you need to see movement there and some of the more recent developments i don't know if that's going to help or hurt but right now things do seem to be trending in the right direction. paul: well, allysia you had a ten-point spread, that means democrats are taking over the house, if it's close that means republicans might lose a few seats but they could hold their own and keep the majority, what's the big deal? >> right, what we should be looking at also there are about 38 republicans that are retiring
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this year that could make it harder for them to hold the house, but on the other hand, as long as trump's approval rating is, you know, bumping up a little bit and hold steady, i think that'll at least provide some momentum for republicans or at least not hurt them as much. paul: dan, this comes as crucial time too because republicans are trying to make a last-ditch effort to get good candidates in, you have kevin kramer, house republican from north dakota saying he's going to jump in against heidi, rick scott, the governor of florida, may decide to challenge bill nelson. this polling might help them with recruiting. >> might help them with recruiting but recruited candidates have to have something to run on and this is -- we are here in february, the election is in november, it's a ways off, almost an entire year and a lot can happen then, i think they are relying at the moment on strong economy,
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effects of tax cut carrying them through but is that enough? paul: i don't know. >> used to be an old basketball coach called dean smith who perfected something called the four-corner offense. at the end of the day would have players throw ball for five minutes until the clocks run out. do they have to put some more numbers on the board? >> we also have the special elections that we have seen in recent months that have not gone the republicans' way, virginia, georgia, we had a special election in florida for state legislative, the democrats swept. all of that has got to have to the give republicans pause, enthusiasm on the democratic side that we have seen in turnout is something that has to worry republicans. >> the left will crawl across glass to vote in november. paul: broken glass. he's right to prove the seat, trump carried the district by 5 points, the republican is the son of congressman in the area,
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so a famous well-none political name and lost seat to a democrat. >> democrats are pumping money especially the state legislative races instead of governor's races because they want to be in charge of redistricting after 2020 which would allow them to gerri commander and basically throw republicans out of power for perhaps a decade. paul: they finally figured that out after seating the ground for republicans for eight years and i think republicans have to be worried, they are not going to have an even playing field when it comes to money. there's a crucial seat coming up march 13th, i think it is, pennsylvania, southwest pennsylvania district, representative murphy has left or is leaving, the replacement, the republican and a new poll only leading by 3 points in a district that trump carried by 20. >> exactly. what people will watch after that vote comes in is how the republicans turn out, how the
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democrats turn out because the game is to suppress votes on the republican side because generally in midterm turnout is low and animated on the democratic side, you need issues to do that. donald trump's personality, the women issue, maybe even immigration, this is a highly hotly political atmosphere we live in, paul, day day-to-day. democrats will keep elevating issues that will turn voters out and allow republicans to sit on their hands in november. paul: when we come back north korea's olympic charm offensive, kim jong un's younger sister was a sensation but was it diplomatic success? anging with stylish make-overs. then at your next meeting, set your seat height to its maximum level.
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paul: kim un making headlines and the media fawning over her everyday move but her olympic charm a success and did it drive a wedge between u.s. and south korea, back with dan henninger, mary kissel and, mary, did north korea win diplomatic offensive? >> north korea deserves medal if propaganda, they could have invited the athletes, there was no reason to invite the sister of kim jong un and in addition to that, president moon's administration used south korean taxpayer money to pay the costs of the north korean elites that came in and as you said, they got media coverage so i'd say at
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least on propaganda front it's a victory. >> more commentary on the media than anything else, paul, they covered kim's sister so they would have covered kendall jenner, they talked about barely there make-up, no nonsense hairdo, this is journalism of celebrities these days and that's the way they cover everything. the south koreans themselves of wall street journal had good story of how south koreans weren't fooled by kim's sister. they feel they are on the brink of military confrontation with north korea. ic serious people weren't charmed by it but the media gets caught up in these sort of things. paul: look at the wonderful in sync cheerleaders, aren't they wonderful? if they get out of line the relatives are to be shot. >> the cheerleader, the sister, do you ever see kim jong un what he looked like with bad haircut, isn't it better to put the
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pretty face forward? people know about and meant to override the reality of north korea. you know, it's very different. i was out in asia of '88 summer olympics in south korea and was instrumental, but at the same time south korea used olympics to improve relations with china, soviet union, this time they decided we are going to play the game rather than pout on the sidelines. paul: that reinforces mary's sideline, president moon inviting the sister to opening ceremonies, inviting her to the blue house and she basically turn around and said, why don't you come visit the north, moon said i will defer that but nonetheless it was -- it put him back on the spot. >> it did and also, i think, put vice president mike pence in a difficult position, you saw the
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photos of him sitting in the same box of a woman who is let's be honest the deputy director of propaganda and blacklisted by the u.s. treasury for human rights abuses. she's no pretty face, she's a brutal lady presiding with her brother over a brutal regime. so, you know, i think it was very awkward for the united states. paul: how did pence do, dan, he met with -- he came with the father of otto warmbier, young man arrested, american arrested for grabbing a propaganda poster, brutalized and essentially sent home all but dead. >> and he meat with some of the north korean defectors and i think he was very steady in trying to make it clear that the united states was not going to permit the north koreans to get away with this propaganda and he talked about our goal is still denuclearization and, i think, that once the olympics are over paul, we will reboot to reality.
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the reality here is not the same as we've had in the past negotiating with north korea, the new reality in the last year is this, they've created a long-range ballistic missile that can reach the united states, they've exploded a hydrogen atomic device and everybody in the intelligence community understands that it's getting to a point to attach that device to missile, allow it to reenter the atmosphere without disintegrating and that clock is ticking, the japanese know it and the south koreans know it. after the olympics we will get back to talking about that. paul: mike pence did say after his trip that you have to be willing to talk to the north koreans. >> we are always willing to talk to north koreans. dan is absolutely right. we have ice skaters and papering over this reality that they have the -- it's now about attacking the u.s., not about south korea and right now the job of general
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mattis is to expand the president's options and what kim is doing is playing for time. that's the tension that's going on. >> and the problem there is, again, the u.s. defense, the south koreans have been hostage for decades, right. they get worried if we get too strong, they get worried if we get too soft. as much as we have to take them into consideration, this is about u.s. security now. >> well, look, the korean left and president moon is a man of the left, always wants to talk to north korea, remember, i think, almost two decades ago now, paul, south korea paid half a billion dollars to sit down with the north, so they are willing to go there but remember, too, president moon has his own domestic political constrains. i think he can only go so far with the north before he suffers politically at home. so that's another issue to watch. paul: all right, thank you all. we have to take one more break, when we come back hits and misses of the week. note ♪
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>> princeton recently decided to cancel the course that they've offered for several years on hate speech because some students objected to use of the n-word during a class discussion. think about this you sent us on offensive language. and then get upset when the professor uses the offensive language in a class discussion. it is ridiculous. the princeton mascot i believe is a tiger. they might want to change that to a kitten. >> okay. >> a big miss to judge block. he ordered the owner effective building to play $6.7 million to people who defaced it with graffiti. the owners crime was you can't
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have graffiti in your own building. it was under the visual artists rights act which gives them rights. the judge reminded people that the owner expressed no remorse. this is nuts. and we know the property rights should be a lot more important than the people that want to assert their rights as an artist. >> i will give this to peter. as we know, silicon valley investor will now move to las vegas. and this is because of intolerance and he has famously endorsed on time. this is an early morning site of closemindedness. is the most toxic thing you can have the world of technology. and what he is trying to say is that toxic fumes are leaking out all over the valley. the better do something before he kills the valley. >> i'm not so sure he will find hollywood all that much more tolerant. member, if you have your own
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hit or miss tweet it to us. thank you to my panel and thank all of you for watching. we hope to see you right here next week. >> a fox news alert. the white house and intelligence community weighing in on a new chapter as special counsel, robert mueller's investigation. after a federal grand jury indicted 13 russian nationals and three russian companies for their part in an elaborate plot to meddle in the 2016 presidential election. >> good to have you all with this. good to have you here alisha. >> indictment alleges the russian nationalists worked behind the scenes using social media. to give them, then candidate

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