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we'll see what the next fox news sunday. >> no child, no teacher should ever be in danger within an american school. no parent should ever have to fear for their sons and daughters before they kiss them goodbye in the morning. we are committed to working with state and local leaders to help secure our schools and tackled the difficult issue of mental health. >> welcome to the journal editorial report. i'm paul. that was president donald trump reacting to the valentine's day shooting at the school in
parkland, florida. he met with first responders and survivors of the massacre that left 17 people that more than one dozen injured. new concerns over missed warning signs about the suspect. the 19-year-old nicholas cruise. they responded to his home and the fbi said someone close to him contacted the fbi in january. including information about his gun ownership and social media posts. doctor sally is a practicing psychologist. she is actually a a resident scholar at the american institute. when you see a profile like this in the details about this young man, what is your reaction is a mental health specialist? >> the key word is emergent. this is all very patton
retrospect. you can almost connect the dots. even at the time the things that we did know in real time with that there were 39 calls to the house for to mistake violence in some sort of disruption from 2011 to may 2016. that's a small span of time. he was expelled from school and before he was expelled he was not even allowed to carry a backpack because the school was concerned about weapons and apparently he showed bullets. he discussed guns and showed pictures of dead in most of his classmates. everybody had a sense that this young man was quite disturbed. we don't all the details. what do people try to do. for example, did his mother, obviously should call the cops. but did she tried to get him some sort of civil commitment.
did she tried to get him a court ordered evaluation? we don't know what the formal diagnosis or system is, we don't know what his iq is. he's adopted. we don't know what the mental status of his parents are. there are so many details yet to emerge. >> paul: the question is, as a society which wants to mean order and protect its children, but everybody from the step massacres, what is the threshold you need to intervene? in this case, if we don't know everything should have intervened? >> in retrospect it is easy. but, yes. it looks like there is ample opportunities for intervention. i'm a psychiatrist not an expert in guns, but, in i'm not talking
about the same and he had a history of mental illness but not formal history in the record books. if someone has been involuntar involuntarily committed they cannot get a firearm. it's something to think about. the history has to start somewhere. people are not bored with a history, they have to establish one. if there is a record of so many calls to the house for violence and the school is concerned about the child. why would back on the record and be a red flag? at least until age 23 or 25. something to discuss how that would work. we need to think about a lower threshold especially when it's young person with a history like this. >> paul: what would be the process you would begin an intervention? the mother died in november. the father had died years ago.
he was in an alternative home and people agree to take them in. is this something that would be triggered by a medical professional? working people at school are law-enforcement to the committing? >> from minor, i believe they can all approach a judge in the context of questions of civil action and commitment. maybe not in an institution but at least a requirement that he go to mental health care. he was in a clinic for a while but he dropped out. was the attitude that he struggle but we don't have to worry so much? where they worried and not active? florida is a state that is notoriously under resourced in terms of mental health care. there are very few beds. also, sheriffs in florida have the capacity to bring someone in
for civil hearing and evaluation. again, the details will come out but we'll find out in a microscopic way where the breakoutbreakdowns were. >> paul: the president has said he will convene a task force conference of law enforcement, state politicians, medical specialist, if you were invited to that conference, what would you tell them? >> i think i would tell them not to cut some of the programs that might be on the chopping block in terms of substance abuse and mental health services. were putting a lot of money into opiates and i think we should, i'm an addiction psychologist but we can't do any of that at the expense of cutting programs from schools which look like they may be in danger. maybe medicaid, not to get into
healthcare reform but medicaid has provided mental health care for many people. if that's not the mechanism that's preferred, fine but we need funding for that as well. >> paul: i appreciate you being here. thank you. still ahead, the justice department indicting 13 russians for meddling in the 2016 presidential campaign. what the charges mean for president trump and the future of the mueller pro. when we come back. t liberating. we took safe, and made it daring. we took intelligent, and made it utterly irresistible. we took the most advanced e-class ever, and made the most exciting e-class ever. the 2018 e-class coupe and sedan. lease the e300 sedan for $569 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. mercedes-benz. the best or nothing. but through goodt times and bad at t. rowe price
paul: justice department on friday dieted 13 russians >> paul: the justice departmentn nationals and three russian companies for meddling in the 2016 presidential election. the 37 page indictment unveiled by rod rosenstein provides no evidence of collusion between russia and the trump campaign. it documents a broad social media and propaganda effort operating out of russia with the
goal of sowing discord into the u.s. system. there is no allegation that any american knowingly participated in the operation. no allegation that the defendant's actions affected the outcome of the election. let's bring in dan and a columnist kim. dan, the volume of this indictment is the level of detail about the extent of the russian operation to show discord. >> tremendous amount of detail. hundreds of operatives in the united states using her social media and websites. millions of dollars being spent. let's go through the timeline. it is very telling. this began in early 2014. they were up and running and doing it through 2014 and 2015 into the campaign through the
election. at that time, who is president? barack obama. james clapper was the director of national intelligence and shame brennan of the cia and jones call me director of the fbi. after the election the clapper report comes out saying we have evidence there's russia and cyber attacks going on and we should be paying attention to this. after this the narrative starts that there is collusion between the trump campaign and russian. this proves there is meddling but no collusion. why didn't they reveal what was going on at the time? >> paul: that's a good question. you think they would have the ability to know a lot of this. if they did know why did they say anything until after the election? would they can to keep it quiet if hillary clinton had one? that's important question.
let's talk about the collusion issue. donald trump is a no collusion so i am vindicated. in fact, we don't know what else mueller might know in terms of contacts between americans in russia. >> that's one of the problems with indictments. they don't exist to exonerate people they are about detailing what crimes we do know happen. of trump critics saying this does not exonerate him. there is the word called on windy that some of the russians did communicate with the trump campaign but the officials did not know what was happening to them. is there a different scheme out there and a different one that russians were engaged in that mueller is following up? it's possible. it seems this is what the clapper report was referencing. we now have to wait and see what the mueller probe does.
>> paul: some of the clinton partisans were saying this was a big enough operation they could have turned 70000 votes in a couple of key states i'm in the election. they're doing that to say that clayton lost not because of her own campaign but because of the russian influence. there's no way to know that. we really don't know how much this would've influenced any votes. >> no. the important point is they reference money amount that was a budget for this operation. the talking millions of dollars. in the context of a presidential campaign, this is not the kind of thing that could have potentially made an enormous difference. a lot of this effort went not to help a campaign or hurting
another, but on issues they're trying to show opposition. they're told to gone target people that are unhappy with the social and economic situation and to show discord in the american political system. >> paul: there's no question that there was a level of russia intent to damage the democratic system. if barack obama did not in post sanctions until january for the suffered, that's a puzzle to me. they were pretty weak sanctions. but trumps response to this, he keeps saying this means there's no collusion, okay. why doesn't he put potent on notice and say you do this again you're going to pay a price for this.
>> that raises a good point. mr. trump put out a tweets and there's more evidence and there's no collusion. he's right about that so far. the main reason so many people suspected something might be going on is that donald trump would say such admirable things no one understood why he was saying that if at this point he put distance between that and putin i think that would go a long way in knocking down the collusion narrative. >> paul: the other thing i would say is facebook twitter and google they need to put more controls. >> thank you kim. when we come back the senate fails to forge a deal on immigration leaving the fate of dreamers in limbo.
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paul: the senate thursday fail >> paul: the senate failed toadr immigration proposals leaving congress without a clear path of addressing the fate of undocumented immigrants known as dreamers. a bipartisan compromise what a given 1.8 million dreamers a path to citizenship while providing trump with $25 billion with his border wall. if you buy a vote of 54 - 45.
the plan backed by president trump and sponsored by chuck grassley garnered fewer votes and failed 39 - 60. let's bring in dan, alecia, and an adjacent. if you been following this, why did this fail? >> the restriction post the built too far. trump issued a veto threat at the last moment on thursday morning warning this that this compromise version negotiated has the backing of eight republicans and seven democrats. but it would undermine border security it would hurt american workers and a lot of hyperbolic rhetoric. >> back cause the republicans not to vote for that loss by six votes. >> almost all democrats voted
for. we don't know if they would have if trump hadn't issued a veto threat. they could've gone dream enough support from other republicans. >> the wall, one of the symbolic campaign proposals come he got the money for. >> i think he's gotten too greedy. he has to decide if he wants a partial victory or total defeat. the trade-off this legal status for the illegal dreamers versus border security. instead they want more they won an absolute reduction in legal immigration as well. >> said that is the bridge too far. that only for democrats but for a lot of republicans. transposition is to the right of most of his party.
>> even this compromise version, they even made some vows in the direction of reducing chain family migration. that you can bring across parents and even current residence i think it was adult siblings. >> i think the lesson when you go back is that you need to go small on immigration. when he tried to bring too much employer security and things like that make is to bake it too complicated. the hardliners want to do too much at once. >> paul: i don't get the politics from the president side. he could is set i got the wall, i solve the dreamer problem that bush and obama could not have solved. he could of march from your to
2020 saying he did something somebody else did it. >> but he's not going to be able to do that. will mean that the republican and democratic parties are engaged in it they do back and forth. they're both trying to negotiate for position going forward. troubles when he said that he wanted to do something about the dreamers. he gave them a deadline of marc. now it has collapsed. that is a political failure and somebody will get the blame or take the cost for. going forward if your restriction is to say nothing of has happened, i'm happy. thus, not vote. the democrats will drive this issue, rev up their base and drive them out in november. tax reform was a positive thing, deregulation is positive. this is a negative. i don't see how it helps the republicans in november.
>> paul: to think this could be rectors resurrected some way? i was talking to a senator that said maybe we can do one or two year extension on the dreamers legislatively. women kick this past the 2010 elections. >> i think some democrats might be reluctant to do that. i've heard the same thing that maybe two years of funding for border wall in return for an extension on daca. this continues to raise some uncertainty with these young adults that don't know. >> 700,000 have come out of the shadows and say here i am. so they are subject to deportation once their work permits expire. >> yes, they are. with republicans controlling
congress and the white house, there's a lot of sympathy in the polls for this group even among republicans. trump will have not fulfilled a campaign promise. he said he would do both. >> still ahead, white house chief of staff, john kelly under scrutiny under his handling of domestic abuse allegations against a former top presidential aide. as the process working the way it should? that is up next.
>> paul: the chief of staff, john kelly ordered an overhaul of white house security clearance procedures. that's in the wake of domestic violence allegations against rob porter. kelly came under scrutiny this week of his handling after christopher ray offered a timeline that differed from the one provided by the west wing. ray told congress on tuesday the agency had brief the white house on several occasions about the status reporters investigation. he submitted a background check in july and close the file last month without granting permanent security clearance. kelly defended the matter earlier this week telling the wall street journal it was all done right.
welcome carl. do you think john kelly said this was all done right? you're looking from the outside but what you think? >> i doubt it. i think is probably misled. we know on january 25 the 2171 of mr. porter's previous wives, the one hit in the face with a black i was interviewed by the fbi as part of the background check. by march a preliminary analysis and by june their final report. they submitted it in july. there's one leak that said they told the white house in june he was unlikely to get a permanent clearance. white house raise questions and those were answered by november. that was closed in january of 2018. that means the white house new
as early as march and as late as july that there is a problem. someone raise questions about underlying charges on the former girlfriend. those were answered no later than november. who in the white house knew this? >> my understanding is that this evidence will be presented by the general counsel. the consulates say this doesn't look good and they go to the chief of staff because you're talking about a very senior white house say. or they'd have to say get his side of the story and make a judgment on for this is a going to work. >> that would typically be how it works the white house personnel director plays a role, we don't know. it's never been really clear what the process was.
it doesn't go directly to the chief of staff. you wanted to be reviewed by the legal counsel and then taken to the chief of staff. i can imagine that they took it to the chief of staff in june of last year in general kelly was caught unaware of it all. >> he was in chief of staff until i think july. >> paul: what about the calls for general kelly to step down as chief of staff? do you think that would help? >> no. i think rather than fixing the problem the opponents of general kelly some of the comments may made that this was largely voiced by people in the white house that don't like being constrained like general kelly has constrained in from outside advisors who want unfettered access causing the president to
spin off at a moments notice. those are the people calling for his departure. ultimately someone needs to be held accountable to look in say no matter how worried he was in his job he needs to leave the white house. i don't think that relies with general kelly. he came in july is known in march and june. was he briefed about it? i find it hard to believe he was briefed about it. >> it would be difficult to have a third chief of staff within a year particularly coming in to election-year and i think general kelly has post some order. >> i was talking to one washington observer who corrected me when i said they couldn't afford to have another chief of staff within a year and half and he said, they've only had one chief of staff who's
been able to bring order inside the building and that's general kelly. >> when we talk about immigration. you've seen the collapse of the bill. who do you think it's most of the blame for the failure of doing something about the dreamers? >> it will fall on the president and the republicans because they hold the white house, the house, and the senate. there is a big pile of manure under the christmas tree. but i think there's still a pony in there. i had conversation today with senior republicans on the hill. there's two avenues, the senate seems to think the conversations will continue. they were not helped by the veto to man. but the conversations are continuing with the hope of doing something before the next spending bill is required. people in the house side think
if they can pass a bill even if it's more restrictive this will take the movement of a reform going forward. this is not held by the president coming out so strongly saying you have to support crassly. the senate sent him a message with only 39 people he would've been better off by complementing the process and standing back and letting it move forward. >> paul: thank you carl. when we come back, some good news for republicans heading into the 2018 midterms. there showing the pole even with democrats. and president trumps approval rating is going up. what's behind the shift? and, will it last?
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paul: some good news this week for republicans heading into the crucial 2018 midterm elections spewing good news for republicans heading into the 2018 midterm election. a new poll showing it even with democrats with a generic ballot. 39% say they would support the republican candidate for congress in the latest political poll while 38% would back the democrat. 47% of voters approve what the president is doing with the same amount disapproving. it's only one pole and we have to say it's still wider than the average but this is interesting because of the timing. >> it's also trending that the generic ballot around 13 points in december is now down to seven
points the approval rating is up, obviously the tax cut happened in the media trashed it, it was pulling badly but then people started seeing the raises in the bonuses and the higher matches and so then trump ascend the benefit of that tax reform. there are some caveats there. independence is still need to see some movement there for republicans, and some of the more recent developments, i don't know if that will help or hurt but things do seem to be trending in the right direction. >> alicia you had a ten-point spread which means democrats would take over the house. if it's close then republicans might lose a few seats.
>> there's also about 38 republicans retiring this year that could make it harder for them to hold the house. but as long as trumps is bumping up, i think that will provide some momentum at least not hurt them as much. >> paul: republican ones are trying to make a last-ditch effort to get good candidates in. kevin kramer, the house democrat from north dakota saying he's gonna jump in against heidi hi kim. rick scott, the governor of florida may decide to challenge. the polling might help them with recruiting. >> but then you recruited candidates have to have something to run on. we are here in february, the election is in november. it's almost an entire year off.
a lot can happen. they're relying on a strong economy, and the effects of the tax cut caring them through. is that enough? please to be an old basketball coach it is something called the four corner offense. he would just have his player throw the ball around for five minutes until the clock run out. the republicans can they do that or do that but more numbers on the board? >> we also have special elections in the last few months. virginia and georgia, florida, all of that has got to give republican some pause. the enthusiasm on the democratic side in turnout is something that have to worry republicans. >> ted cruz said the left will crawl across last to vote. >> he's right. in that florida seat trump carried the district by five points.
the republican is a son of a congressman, he lost that seat by fort points to a democrat. >> the democrats are pumping money into the state legislative races. they want to be in charge of redistricting after 2020 which will allow them to gerrymander seats. >> there finally figured that out after seeding the ground to republicans for eight years. so republicans need to another not gonna have a even playing field. march 13 is crucial, pennsylvania a district represented tim murphy has left are ready. the republican in a new poll is only leading by three points in a district that trump carried by 20.
>> people will watch how the republicans and democrats turned out. they want to suppress votes on the republican side because generally turnout is low and animated in the democratic side. you need issues to do that, donald trump personality. this is a highly political atmosphere. the democrats will keep elevating issues to turn the voters out and allow republicans to sit on their hands in november. >> paul: when we come back, north korea's olympic charm, kim jong-un said sister was a positive. but was it a positive success? hey! we didn't have a homeowners claim last year so allstate is giving us money back on our bill. well, that seems fair. we didn't use it. wish we got money back on gym memberships. get money back
>> soon kim jong the younger sister of kim jong-un is making headlamps at the 2018 winter games with the media fawning over her every move. was her olympic charm a success? and did a tribal wedge between the u.s. and south korea? were back so very, did north korea win over diplomatic offenses? >> i think they deserve a gold medal for propaganda. they could've just invited the athletes. there is no reason to invite the sister of kim jong-un. and in addition, the administration used taxpayer money to pay the cost of the north korean elites who came in. they got fawning media coverage.
from the propaganda front it's a victory. >> it's more commentary on the media. they covered kim sister the way they would've covered kendall gender. they wrote about her makeup and her hairdo, this is the journalism of celebrities these days. south koreans themselves had a very good story on how the south koreans were not fooled by their sister. they feel there on the brink of a serious military confrontation with north korea. i think serious people weren't charmed by a but the media gets caught up in it. >> look at those wonderful insync cheerleaders, they wonderful.
never lined if they get out of my their relatives might be shot. >> the cheerleaders, did you ever see what he would look like with that bad haircut? is it better to put a pretty face forward? people know about it it's meant to override the reality of north korea. i was in asia during the 88 88 olympics which were instrumental in promoting democracy. pinching was a huge loser there. but south korea use the olympics to improve relations with china and the soviet union. i think this time they decided they're going to play the game. >> this man been a diplomatic success. he of the president inviting them to the white house, basically she turned down at say what you come visit the north and he said well i'll defer that, but nonetheless it put him
back on the spot. >> also for vice president mike pence he saw the photos of penn sitting in the same box is a woman who is the deputy director of propaganda and blacklisted for human rights abuses she's a brutal lady presiding with her brother over a brutal regime. i think it was awkward for the united states. >> paul: how to pence do? he came with the father of otto warm beer, young man who was arrested who was arrested just for grabbing of topic propaganda poster and essentially set send home all but dead. >> i think he was very steady and trying to make it clear the united states would not permit them for getting away with this offensive. he talked about our goal is still denuclearization.
once the olympics are over we will reboot to reality. the reality is not the same as we have had in the past. the new reality is this, they created a long-range ballistic missile that can reach the united states. they have a atomic device and it's getting to the point where they have to be able to attach that to a missile allow it to reenter the atmosphere without disintegrating, and that clock is ticking. we know it in the japanese know it. after the olympics will get back to talking about that. >> mike pence did say that were willing to talk to the north koreans. >> i think dan is right, we have this glitz and ice skaters and it's just papering over this is now about attacking the u.s.,
not about south korea. right now the job of general mattis is to expand the option kim is playing for time. >> he's also trying to divide the u.s. from south korea. now it's about the u.s., the south koreans have been hostage for decades. they get worried if we get too strong and worried if we get to saw. as much as we have to take them into consideration, this is about u.s. security. >> president moon is a man of the left and always wants to talk to north korea. almost two decades ago south korea paid half a billion dollars to sit down with the north, but remember president moon has his own domestic political constraints. he can only go so far before he suffers politically.
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over the defeat in his own building and the artist sued under something because the visual artists rights act. which gives artists rights. with the judge reminded people that the owner expressed no remorse. this is nuts, right? we know that property rights should be a lot more important as who are the first people to serve their population someone wants to use them as an artist? >> i will give mine to peter teal. he announced that he will move to los angeles and the reason is in large part, liberal intolerance in silicon valley. i think he famously endorsed donald trump. it is unthinkable in the valley should take seriously. this is kind of an early warning. slows mindedness is the most toxic paint can have an aerobic technology. what he is trying to say is that toxic feelings are leaking out before it does something. >> i'm not sure he will find how it all that much more tolerant. and remember if you're heavy mb
hit or miss tweet it to us. thank you to my panel and to all of you thfor working. we hope to see right here next week. >> and a fox news alert.the president going on a twitter tirade today. he is taking that his predecessor in the oval office, president barack obama after the indictment rebuilding russia's election infiltration began during his second term. but the president was wide ranging sparing few targets? welcome to a brand-new hour of "americas news headquarters". >> the president also using some salty language tweeting quote - if it was the goal of russia to create discord, disruption and chaos within the us, then with all of the committee hearings and investigations and party hatred, they have