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after you can first take home a prize with your peanuts and cracker jacks 106 years ago today. should news break out, we'll break in. that's what we do. "your world" with neil cavuto is now. >> neil: all right. you're looking at air force one. west palm beach, florida. the president ready to take off after a raucous weekend that again with him visiting the victims of the school shooting. and then you know what happened after that. the tweet storm and the back and forth with the fbi and what they should have done and the russian investigation. all of these as anti-gun protesters are lining up outside the white house for a sit-in or lay-in or whatever you want to call it. angry at a president and republican party that they say fights them tooth and nail reigning in the guns out there. the shooting suspect was back in court today. you'll never believe why and what came of that.
meantime, to kevin corke in west palm beach florida. hey, kevin. >> neil, you have these weekends and sometimes they're sleepy. this was anything but that. we could talk about the shooting and the fact the president was down here comforting the families. we could talk about the russia investigation. let's start this because we have so much. i apologize. i have an emergency vehicle here. let me share a tweet the president put out talking about the russia investigation. this is interesting. the president poses a question. he says obama was president up to and beyond 2016 election. so why didn't he do something about russian meddling? this is a story that you and i have been talking about. he had this tweet earlier. he said if it was the goal of russia to create discord, disruption and chaos within the is, with all the committee hears and investigations, they have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.
they're laughing their rear ends off in moscow. get smart, america. clearly the president is referencing the fact that rod rosenstein last week talks about the 13 indictments, more than a dozen russian operatives indicted for meddling in the 2016 campaign. but we also learned the meddling actually occurred not just in 2016 or 2015. it actually occurred as far back as 2014. this really buffets the question. let's take you to this picture. the question is, what was america's senior intelligence cadre doing in 2014? you have the president of the united states that clearly is briefed on this every day. president obama. he must have known about this. ditto for james comey, james clapper. these people know what is happening. they talk about this on a daily basis. yet we wonder what if anything they did about it. let me share this sound that we
got from mike pence over the weekend. he's talking about the ongoing investigation and what the trump administration has been willing to do about it. let me tell you this. i can just briefly tell you that what the vice president said is listen. we're doing what we can to cooperate. it's clear to him and frankly to a lot of people that there was meddling. did it change the votes though? did it make people in enough important states to vote for trump instead of clinton? we don't know. the questions will continue to be asked, especially this week as we look forward, neil. >> neil: thanks, kevin. i want to go to uva center for politics, larry sabado. i'm going to tick off a lot of people. whatever you think about the russian investigation, the timing of that, the indictment, all of that, this particular weekend near this particular local was not the time to do it. not the time at all. your thoughts. >> you're 100% correct, neil.
look, they should have gotten him out to the golf course sooner sunday. i'll bet most of the staff aides agree with me privately. the tweets were not helpful to his cause and were not helpful to the country. he shouldn't have dwelled on subjects other than the tragic situation in parkland. he should have focused on that. he did some things when he first got to florida, visiting the hospital and talking to emt people and all the rest. this was something to dwell on. because unlike some of the other mass shootings, this has riveted the country mainly because of these young people because of how articulate and eloquent they are. >> neil: and they called them out with tweets of their own. i think you're right. he started off well on friday with this and all. but i thought anything else, whether it was legitimately expressed or not, whether the
rage he feels, the fbi and whether it's distracted and that produces or not, keep it to yourself. now was not the time to do this or feed this anxiety. makes it look like you're making this all about you. >> that's exactly what he did. the tweets were all about him for the most part. a few exceptions. that's the way that he often does things. this was the wrong moment to make it all about him. aside from that, neil and we talked about this before, no matter what he may think about some in the fbi, he is banging on the fbi entirely too much. every president needs the fbi and the cia and the nsa. the intelligence agencies and the law enforcement agencies are domestic bulwark against many of the threats we face. if there's individuals in there that are biassed and causing problems, they can be dealt with
administratively. he needs to get off of this track. he keeps returning to it and it doesn't help him. >> neil: there's a number of people very angry, including 17 sets of parents that lost their children as a result of this miscommunicated or not properly started out fbi interview with someone that knew and was worried about this shooter. why couldn't a surrogate or someone like that express the obvious thing, okay, the fbi botched this one. why do you as president of the united states have to go there? there's no need to do it. >> not only no need to do it, but you should focus on the narrow problem. somebody in the something, maybe a few somebodies dropped the ball. i'll bet you right now it's one somebody that dropped the ball. some of the florida social services people did the same thing. >> neil: there's a lot of people that dropped the ball and a lot
of -- to that point, larry, you could obviously say, all right, we've got to get to the bottom of this. i just think appearances mean a lot more than i think most people appreciate at a time like this. for a president that has to play the role, which he did friday with his speech earlier in the week about being a consoler in chief. helping people out through a crisis. whether people like you or not, whether it's politically popular or not, that this is another level that sadly and you and i just discussed, we've required of our president because this does happen a lot. >> it does and will happen again. president trump has not yet settled into that role of comforter in chief. as you just noted, every president has to do that. they have to master that role. it's not easy. sometimes you have to dwell on it for a while. you can't do an event or two-on-one day and then move along.
or twist the tragedy to benefit you and whatever you're current political disputes and conflicts are. >> neil: he hopes to make this right by saying -- not that he feels he's done wrong here, but meeting with florida teachers and students wednesday. we did know which teachers or students. we don't know whether they will include those that have been critical of him. but that might be an important first step. how do you think that will go? >> i hope it goes well. as you say, depends who is included. my suggestion to the students and i'm impressed by them. they're terrific. they're certainly than young people were in my day and definitely better than they were in your day. >> neil: enough out of you. >> there you go. seriously, i think it's important to have a civil dialogue. my suggestion to some of the students if they're listening and included, be civil. no obscenities, no blanket statements. be civil. have a real dialogue.
this is a great opportunity to make change. >> shepard: absolutely. a lot of those kids are angry at everybody. they're saying we're tired of this. it's not directed at one individual party. it's a rare opportunity where he could address that. we shall see. professor, thank you very much. >> absolutely. >> neil: the shooter was back in court today. what came of that? steve harrigan in florida with more. hi, steve. >> we got our first live look at the shooter inside court today. he came out in a red jump suit. that's reserved for the most violent prisoners. his hands were shackled around his waist. his body language, he looked down the whole time. he's been in solitary confinement and been in suicide watch as well. the public defender that represents him says he's likely to plead guilty to 17 counts of
first degree murder. the scene here in ft. lauderdale and in and around parkland is really a mixed bag of funeral after funeral with some wakes and viewings sandwiched in between them. four funerals yesterday. many of them for 14-year-olds. three today. two more tomorrow. so while some students appear to be stunned at what happened, others are moving forward, trying to determine what happens next. they're getting involved in politics for gun control. there's been a number of rallies over the weekend and some of the students from the stoneman douglas school are planning to lead a national rally in washington march 24 to bring about some gun control changes in the country. neil, back to you. >> neil: i don't want to drop this on you here, but do you know whether any of those protesting students are among those the white house might consider inviting to this wednesday summit on what happens? >> we can only tell you from some of the leaders of the protest movement, people active
out at the rally, speaking at the rallies and speaking on television often, they seem to be very negatively disposed towards the president. i'd be surprised if they're in attendance at that listening summit on wednesday, neil. >> neil: steve harrigan, thank you. you've covered too many of these events. great job as always. the president is going to be leaving west palm shortly. we saw his motorcade in west palm. he will be back in washington tonight. a lot of questions going forward as to what the fbi knew and when they knew it that have raised hackles from no less than florida's governors. already i don't like what i heard about the fbi. i think the fbi director should go. but to add fuel to the fire, he's saying i want every single record of what you missed and how you missed it after this. ♪
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a controversial weekend that began on the right note, visiting victims' families in hospitals as well as a lot of the security and local law enforcement who helped save many others. could have been worse. right now, all the tweets afterwards is still unnerving a lot of folks that said he possibly botched an opportunity to unite the country on all of this. when it came to what went down and the killer's actions, more people seem to be angry in these days at the fbi, what it knew, didn't know and how important communication from a little more than six weeks ago on the shooter never got passed along. the florida governor has said that's grounds for the director of the fbi to leave, to resign. attorney general pam bondi had a different take. >> governor scott was on the ground with me nonstop. he's outraged by the response that christopher wray gave
saying well, we'll get to the bottom of it. i think he believes these families deserved more, deserved a strong response saying whoever did this will be fired, they will be held accountable. i agree with him that that needs to happen. let's see what christopher wray does next. >> all right. i want to go to a former fbi joint task force member. steve rogers. very good to see you. there's a lot of anger at your old player and this feeling that they botched it. did that they botch it? >> they botched it terribly, neil. the fact of the matter is, the american people are losing confidence in this agency because this is not the first thing they botched. let me add this. the director of the fbi should not only resign but the entire leadership executive officers should resign. if they don't resign, they should be fired. what i'm seeing happen here from the day they tried to explain their way out of this in law enforcement, there's something called the blue wall of silence. i'm beginning to believe that a blue wall of silence is being put up and they have to tear
that wall down. who are they? agents maybe who know more than what we're being told as to the who, what, when and why this happened. >> neil: a lot of people say be careful what you wish for. the fbi is also done a great deal of good and stopped more than we'll ever know. so i understand how it works, steve. that you remember the one that you missed and the ones that you prevented. but having said that, do you think the president is right when he says the distractions with the russia probe got in the way of the fbi doing its job? florida? >> yes, i do, neil. i've worked in law enforcement 38 years. as a superintendent, i set priorities. the priorities of the fbi should be the protection of the american people. all this stuff going on with russian probes and political probes, that has to be second to everything else. it was the day that james comey testified before congress and this is the way i and former officers feel, that's when the fbi was politicized and weaponized. it has to get back to basics.
that's to conduct these comprehensive and investigations. they had leads. a good number of leads that could have led them to this guy. >> neil: but thousands work for the fbi, right? >> yeah. >> neil: so how many were committed to the russian probe? a few dozen? >> i don't know, neil. i can tell you this. you got to set priorities. should have been somebody at headquarters communicating with the agent in florida saying hey, look, we have a name, we have something up there that leads us to believe that this individual is going to commit a very serious act. was the local police, did they hand the fbi information? the students we know talk about it. the teachers knew about it. a disconnect somewhere. it's called information sharing and intelligence gathering. that's where the failure was. >> neil: i know where you're coming from here with your views. you think this past weekend was the weekend to do that? with everything going on, with the proximity to where this
horrific event happened for the president of the united states, whatever his issues with the fbi to do that and to say that? >> no, i would have to say, you know, timing is everything. i know he's got a lot on his plate. you know, he's a compassionate man. i know that he's been down there, he's been working very hard and speaking through his heart. but timing is everything, neil. i guess we were off timing on that one. >> neil: would you do it? >> no, i would not. >> neil: steve rogers, thanks very much. more after this.
happen. >> i don't know how mr. rosenstein can make that assessment. it's not the job of a prosecutor to determine that. he's looking for crimes. but i don't know how you can charge 13 individuals with posting what they did at the volume that they did and the amount of money they put in. you can determine that not a single mind was changed. >> that this was democratic congressman rep swalwell telling me this find, this indictment going after a dozen russian institutions and the individuals to say nothing of a few more russian companies didn't influence an individual or a couple of individuals. it certainly would have had to. not everybody agrees with that, including rod rosenstein. he keeps percolating, byron, this notion that these re-lations not only proved that the russians were involved but
they altered it. nothing in this indictment and nothing that has been said since would support that. this congressman took that leap. what do you think? >> well, what you just said is really important. what rosenstein was saying, there's nothing in the indictment that alleged that this russian effort changed the results of the election. such as there was no collusion between the trump campaign and russia. that's just true. there's nothing in there about those things. doesn't mean there could be another indictment coming down some time about that. it's not in this one. what is going on as far as the possibility of the russians actually changing the election results or affecting the election results, i think you have to look at this indictment, but you also have to look at the testimony we heard from facebook and other social media executives a few months ago in front of the house and the senate. they gave us an idea how big
this russian efforts. for example, they said that the russians had spent about $100,000 on facebook and instagram ads. they also said of the impressions from those ads about 44% of them were before the election meaning 56% were after the election, which obviously -- >> neil: that part was amazing. they were still trying to sow confusion and anger and controversy and rage after the election. >> we did see that in the indictment itself. two of the events they organized were four or five days after the election in new york city. they organized an i support president trump rally and they organized at the same time a donald trump is not my president rally. so also, they spend the $100,000 on the ads. most of them are after the election. that $100,000 compared to the $81 million that the trump and the clinton campaigns spent on
facebook ads there. so you see some of that. also, it compares to the $2.4 billion that was spend in the larger campaign by the two campaigns. so these amounts of money that are being spent, even the total russian effort, the indictment that says that in september 2016, they spend $2.5 million on it. compare that to $2.4 billion. >> neil: you raise a good point. but isn't it incumbent on the president to get in front of it? nobody would say this definitely tipped the election and the russians bought it off to make sure it happened. that would be a black helicopter cloud leap. but saying that, it's the russians were involved in the election. so now the president is the
president, he's the establishment. now there's fears the russians will do this again. so if you buy the argument that russians don't seem to care whether they sow confusion on the right or the left, just that they screw us up and get us shouting at one another and they're about to do it again, wouldn't the president want to get in front of that? >> that's probably a good idea. there's always been two parts to this trump russian investigation. the first part is what the russians did. we see that in this new indictment. the other part is to get trump part. there's democrats that hope this investigation would lead to the president being removed from office. trump reacts very badly to that. i think brit hume tweeted today that when trump talks about the investigation as a hoax, he was always talking about it as it applied to him. why is that? because that's what he thinks about most everything. so when he talks about a hoax,
he's talking about the allegation that the trump campaign or trump himself colluded with the russians. you're right. there is multiple factual evidence and it's believed and supported by bipartisan majorities on capitol hill that the russians made an effort to intervene in the election. a lot of argument. we were just talking about whether it was effective or not. it did exist. >> neil: now you're mr. establishment, mr. president. get in front of it. >> there you go. >> neil: very good. thank you. anti-gun protests are in washington right now even though they knew the president wasn't in the white house. they're outside the president. the president is trying to find a middle ground with those affected in florida, teachers and students to have a discussion about that. is that even possible?
>> neil, you said a little extreme? that is incredibly extreme. unfortunately it is politicizing and capitalizing on a heinous crime. we ought not find ways to win elections off of terrible tragedies in this country. we should find ways to solve the problem and prevent these tragedies. >> neil: all right. that democratic senator was connecticut's richard blumenthal that said the only way to get some changes here on gun laws and the rest is to get democrats in the next election in there. ashely pratt, we have aaron mcpike. what do you think of this battle back and forth? the politicalization of it has not stopped. it's gotten entrenched. >> what you're seeing some senators try to do is have some action. what senator blumenthal was doing is trying to spark some of that action. look, you're seeing john cornyn,
the republican senator from texas, trying to move on a background check bill. even president trump said that he's open to that. obviously rick scott and marco rubio, the republican senator from florida, are talking about getting on board with this as well. so i think -- >> neil: senator blumenthal knew two of those developments prior to making these remarks about elections, which just seemed crass. >> if you look at what he's done on twitner the last couple days, he's come around to a little bit of that. i think he's trying to be more productive. so maybe he made some overly political comments at the beginning. i think there's a little movement and it just slows it down to talk about the politicization of the whole thing. >> neil: we'll see. we do have a call out to richard blumenthal. hope springs eternal. ashley, what i'm curious about, where there might be middle ground. we talked about the president meeting with florida teachers, students, presumably at the
light house and how the election process will go. the idea being that maybe there is some middle ground here. the president has talked about maybe tighter mental health background checks, that sort of thing. and other republicans have talked about maybe addressing some of these weapons themselves. but in baby steps. what do you see happening? >> well, i think congress represents the american people, neil. the american people are tired of seeing the senseless violence occur over and over again. most of all, they're tired of seeing innocence lives being taken. it's high time for congress to act on this and find middle ground through common sense compromises. there's plenty of common sense reforms and different regulations out there that could be formed that co-exist with the second amendment and those are the conversations that congress should be having. the more american people see some action being done on this
rather than just political banter, it will go a long way. the problem is this continues to happen. there remains no action to be done. instead, we see more politicalization of these tragedies. it's time for congress to act and they can act and these can co-exist with the second amendment and they can be nonpartisan. these conversations may be difficult but they need to happen. >> neil: erin, there's been some criticisms of democrats refusal to see about violent games and videos and movies have especially when we learn better than three dozen police visits to his house over these many years involved punishments. his mother was beat up for taken away an x box game for days. there's something on that side that can be done.
do you think there's the making of a grand bargain or compromise that both parties take on their respective money makers? >> neil, i think you can do a grand bargain. it will take a lot of work. i think you're right. baby steps will work. you can't solve this problem all in washington. that's a cop out. chris christie said the same thing about the las vegas shooting. the shootings won't stop. congress can get something done here. look, in colorado, the colorado legislature a couple years ago passed a background check bill. colorado is a western state. there's some libertarian leading republicans there that actually got on board with republicans and they passed a bill that's been pretty successful in colorado. it would be nice to see something like that on a broader national scale. ashley? >> i completely agree with what erin said. there's plenty of polls that
show gun owners and those that don't own guns think that background checks are necessary on every gun purchase. why don't we strengthen our systems? we've seen issues with that. definitely in the case of the parkland shooting. the fbi not really doing much by way of receive ago tip on something is a problem. we have individuals out there that are dangerous, dangerous to themselves and others that are getting access to they weapons. we need to look at this as well. >> neil: thanks, ladies very much. because you're both right. for so many of the victims families, been there, done that, heard this. sick of it. more after this. mercedes-benz glc
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california, to provide universal income that everybody gets a set paycheck courtesy of the government. what is going on here? >> well, it's not coming from the government, neil. let me make that point clear. the plan here is to give some of stockton's poorest families $500 a month for a year to spend as they please to see if that can lift their spirits and put them on a path to prosperity. >> if you give people a base amount that they receive regularly, that can be a hand up. that helps them to really gain their own economic success going forward. >> it is a real-world demonstration of universal basic income paying people just for being alive. it's a popular con septembcept silicon valley amid fears that automation wipe away jobs. critics say pay should be earned
and basic income is still a form of welfare. some economists say giving out free money is a disincentive to work. here in stockton where one in five residents are poor. many people we speak to said the money would be a big help. >> i would spend it in my community so it goes back towards the community. maybe buying local fruits, vegetables. >> pay off bills. >> it will help a lot. i just went through a divorce, raising four children. it will be help to pay my bills. >> i will take my children on a trip to disneyland. >> go to disneyland. why not? the recipients will spend the money however they like. many of the details of the program have yet to be released like who will get this money and how their spending habits will be tracked. at the end of the year-long demostration, we'll hear from the lucky recipients first hand
and see if the cash was enough to boost their self-esteem and curb back stockton's poverty. this pilot program begins in the fall. >> thanks for correcting me on the government thing. would the government take note if it's deemed to be working? would the government be incentivized or the signal be for the government to do this type of thing? >> that is the hope by these organizers. one of the big questions if this takes out whether government-funded programs would go by the wayside. they're going to try this program here, see how it goes for a year. several dozen low income families, $500 a month. may not sound like a lot, neil, but here in this community, it could be significant. >> neil: a lot of money over the course of a year. thanks very much. let's get the read on this. we have the host of making
money, charles payne here with us. charles, you talked a lot about growing up in poverty and you know what you speak. so from your point of view, how would something like this back in your day as a child have changed things? >> you know, paying people not to work or paying people money so they feel good about them says is tough. what you're really doing is keeping them in a position where they don't have to do more. they have to do less to get ahead. you can get people to a position where they don't have to do anything to survive. that's sort of rut co be a lifetime rut. it's very dangerous. i recall f.d.r. had four freedoms. the desire, the want for things is what motivates and generates to us do things and actually
unlock skills and gifts that we. have it's been tried in finland. it's been a disaster. anywhere that you have these programs where you tell people don't do anything, we'll do it for you always backfires. >> neil: the argument, madison, against that is saying don't do anything. this isn't sort of hand-out as much as a hand to help you for a while. you say what? >> the reality is, a lot of people aren't going to do anything if there was universal basic income. the reason why this is a problem. that's unsustainable and discourages excellence. it's very difficult to quantify. what would we have as a universal basic income, which will never happen, of course. but that's what these people behind this initiative, this study want. they want to see that. they want it to happen in this country and others won't. it's a ridiculous liberal idea. >> neil: it's a company picking up the tab for now. i know the fear seems to be that this would eventually and others extend to government and
embolden government to do the same. what do you think? >> i have terrible news for those people, which is that it's already happening in one of the most conservative states in the country, alaska. every man and women and child gets about $2,000 from the state government to do with whatever they like. since they have implemented the program, they have not seen employment rates -- >> neil: that's coming -- that's a bounty from oil companies that do business in the state. >> that's fine. the point is, we're talking about essentially the same thing. look, for most people -- >> neil: it's not really, right? it's a business that is getting a lot of bang for the buck and having to share the wealth with their residents. >> can i finish the point? the point is that $500 a month isn't that much in terms of you wouldn't be able to stop working if you got $500 a month. it could be the difference between being able to pay for that unexpected car repair and not being able to get to work. >> neil: it's a substantial amount. what do you think of that,
charles? it sets in motion expectations? >> it does. people come to start to believe this money is owed to them. you want to talk about a lack of incentive? it's one thing when you expect, hey, the post man will show up and bring me my check. i will say this, madison. they have and they have talked about this being a government fund. bernie sanders has talked about it. mark suckerburg has talked about it. this can never be u.s. policy. a lot of people think it's a fair thing to do. i'm telling you, what is unfair, it's unfair to the people and their children born into this sort of system and they never get a chance to tap into their own god-given potential. >>s that not true. >> neil: to christy's point, alaska does have a precedent for this. different case, different reason. but everyone in alaska gets that check. >> christy is wrong when she says this is the same thing. i don't think it's the same
thing at all when we're talking about what charles and i are talking about that bernie sanders are pushing for, basic universal income. that's people getting $24,000 a household a year possibly more if they have children. that's going to de-incentivize many from working. maybe you're talking about something else, but i'm -- >> $500 a month is $6,000 a year. >> you're talking about the study in california. i'm talking about a universal basic income for everybody in this country. >> neil: we don't know how this experiment will go. we'll keep an eye on it. thank you all very much. we'll save time talking over one another. fergie being slammed for her national anthem rendition. i think it's overdone. she's a gifted singer. she overdid it hear. you should hear the tweet storm this has caused.
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didn't strike the tone. i love this country and i tried my best. so she did. america, calm down. she's a gifted singer. didn't deliver the goods. everybody has to calm down. cat sims, to you agree? >> well, neil, i think that, yeah, she tried her best. that's fine. but if you try your best and it doesn't go well, you also by putting yourself out there are giving all of us permission to make fun of you. so yes, i'm going to make fun of her, say it's not good. i don't know what she was thinking. certain points she sounded like a dying frog. i don't know what happened. i think all the people around her that allowed her to do this, she should be reevaluating if they should be in her life. >> neil: a little extreme. fergie has a great voice. she wasn't thrust into it. i wonder about when they were
practicing this, if it was audible to other people and someone say, we might want to dial it back. having said that, she apologized and moved on. i think you should, too. >> yeah, you know, i think that that's one thing. that's fine. i'm not saying she's a bad person. i'm not saying she's a bad singer. i'm saying this is bad. when something bad like this happens, one of life's greatest simply pleasures is to light-heartedly make fun of somebody -- >> neil: have you read the tweets that she received? they weren't light-hearted. they're nasty. they're like the tweets that i get. and i find that a little de-humanizing. >> i get bad tweets, too. i put myself out there and i know that that comes with it. i don't think that nobody should be saying horrible nasty things to her. it's fine to say it's bad and make fun of it. that's what we do in this culture. sometimes we make fun of other people and it's funny or fun. i don't think she cares what i
have to sign. that's fine. but i want to know what she was thinking and also this could be a very good lesson in surrounding yourself with people that say yes to everything you do. a lot of people that said girl, yes, i'm sure, i'm sure around her the entire time because they didn't want to tell her the truth. >> neil: i don't know about that. but i will say this, you know when you go to a baseball or basketball game and they all have their own version and try to put their own stamp on it. and some things you just don't do like that. >> yeah. the national anthem is great how it is. i like the song. a big fan of the star spangled banner. love it. listen to it often on my own time, neil. you know, she tried, but it didn't work. i don't think anyone would say it worked. i understand why people were tweeting. i had to watch the video to make sure i saw what i saw. >> neil: you sound like a hater. >> i do like to have fun when necessary. >> neil: thanks, cat. a word to the wise about singing the national anthem. i'm supposed to do it at the
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