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defending it. >> it is not important at all because it will be months until the next election. >> john: thank you, folks. we appreciate it. that is "special report" tonight, "the story" with martha maccallum is coming up next. >> martha: thank you, john. breaking tonight on "the story." there is terror in austin, texas, tonight. three package bombs left on doorsteps. two people dead and two critically injured. in the manhunt to stop the next bomb could be anywhere. and is under way. good evening, everybody. i'm martha maccallum. greg abbott is offering a $15,000 reward for information leading to the arrest of anyone responsible for the bombings. the first bomb took the life of a 39-year-old man, and then today, ten days later. the police chief was warning the public after another explosion this morning. right after he spoke, another package exploded. a 17-year-old boy is now dead.
and two women were injured. all of the explosions accord when people were doing what everybody does every single day, went out to their front steps and picked up a package. here is austin police chief brian manley just a short time ago. >> what we know has happened on this incident similar to the other two incidents, the one from this morning and to the one that occurred back on march 2nd, is that the victim in this incident came outside of her residence and found a package out front. and she picked up that package, and then the explosion, the bomb detonated. this again is the third and what we believe to be related incidents that have occurred over the last ten days. we are imploring the community. if you know anything about these attacks, it is imperative that you come forward and that you let us know. we are having innocent people getting hurt across this community. it is important that we come together as a community and to solve this.
it is not time to panic, but it is time to be vigilant and pay attention. we should pull together as a city in a community and solve this. >> martha: chief joins us tonight exclusively on the "the story" and his first televised interview, he will be here in just a moment. we will go to trace gallagher who has a story. >> martha, at 6:45 this morning, 17-year-old boy found a package and brought it inside the kitchen to open where it exploded. killing him and injuring a 40-year-old woman, it is unclear if that was his mom. here's a neighbor describing what it sounded like. >> there was just a loud, loud boom. and i cannot figure out what it was but i thought it was my heater exploding or something like that. it was very loud. >> very loud and very powerful. and very similar to the package bomb that killed the 39-year-old man on march the second. just as police were investigating the parallels of the first two bombs come a third
package exploded severely injuring a 75-year-old woman. no investigators are in the process of establishing any patterns, for example days believe that the explosive devices are similar. and were delivered in similar size boxes though they will not go into detail. we know that the first two explosions have been 12 miles apart, the third bomb went off five and a half miles from the second. both victims i died or african-american part of the 75-year-old female now in critical condition is hispanic. police are not ruling anything out, but too early to tell if the victims were the intended targets or if these might be hate crimes. surveillance cameras near the locations are being scanned to see if the video captured any potential suspects. the packages do not appear to have been delivered by the postal service or shipping companies like fedex and ups could police are now telling everyone in and around the austin area that if a box shows up at your home and you were not
expecting one, call 911. we should note that the southwest music festival is this we can in austin, there are no plans to change that. and back in the '70s, '80's, and '90s there were a planted bombs around the country that killed three and injured several more. it took investigators nearly 18 years to bring him to justice. >> martha: awful, terrifying situation, trace, thank you very much prayed here exclusively on "the story" ," austin police chf brian manley. these have all been dropped off at night or overnight and then around 6:45 or 7:00 a.m., the people that open the doors and pick these up, correct? >> in the first two we had the victims coming out on their porch in the early morning hour and found the packages on their porch. and when they picked them up or in the second incident when they opened it up, both of them detonated. the one that happened this afternoon was in a little bit of
a later hour, but under the same circumstances. >> martha: we pointed out, you were out there telling people what to be cautious of. your hearts must have just sunk when they said, chief, we have another one. a 17-year-old boy who just died one exploded in his hands. >> yes, i cannot explain to you what that feeling is like. because we are trying to get the message out as quickly as possible, letting people know that based on what we had to happen march 2nd, which we thought was an isolated incident and then would happen this morning prayed we realize the importance of getting the message out quickly. and in the process of that to hear that we did have a third incident occur was very troubling given that we now lost two lives. >> martha: it is horrible. you have talked about surveillance, on the video surveillance is there any person walking up to those steps? is there a look at anybody yet? >> not yet, but with this having begun this morning and then with the second incident shortly
thereafter, we are in the process of painstakingly doing post blast analysis and picking up all of the various pieces of evidence that are throughout both scenes and included in that will be the campus of the neighborhood for anyone who have may witness to something or any surveillance cameras that existed in these neighborhoods so that we can get something to start working with. >> martha: somewhere in your area you have somebody who is building bombs and putting them in packages. in this person is out there. do you know or have any sense of whether it is one person or a group of people and how sophisticated are these explosive devices? >> whether it is one individual or multiple, we do not know ed this time. and as far as sophistication. it takes a certain level of skill to be able to build a device like this. and deploy it to your intended target without having it explode in the process. we are seeing how easily they explode once the victims are handling them, so there is a certain level of skill that is
going along with what this individual or individuals are doing. >> martha: can you tell us about the technique or a kind of explosive it is? what is in the boxes as to what you have seen so far? >> a lot of analysis being done by the explosives division along with the fbi as far as the types of explosives that are being used. that is still being analyzed, but what we are doing in the message that we want to get out his do not limit yourself to thinking that it is only if an unexpected cardboard box shows up. if you go out on your porch and you see something that does not belong to you. a package or other item, just give us a call. because we want to come out and take a look at it to ensure that there is nothing suspicious or something that we need to do as a department to make that safe so that we do not lose in another life or have another life significantly impacted by this. >> martha: what about these individuals? two dead, a 39-year-old man, 17-year-old boy today. and then the 40-year-old woman and a 75-year-old woman,
hispanic woman who are in critical condition tonight. is there any connection that you can see between these individuals? >> first i want to say that my heart goes out to these families. it is an unexplainable tragedy at this point. that's exactly what we are looking at now. what can we piece together about these three individuals to determine if there is something that connects them? right now we have not yet identified any ideology that might be behind this. or any specific link between these victims. so that is really at the core of what we are working on right now. of trying piece it together. on top of the evidence collection and all of the analysis that will be done. >> martha: in terms of what was on the package, is their handwriting on the package that has their address? were they addressed to someone in the home that live there? did it have their name on it? >> we are keeping some of these details private right now for the integrity of the investigation. as this is information that is only known to the suspects in
this incident, and that's why we are highlighting to the community here. if you see something that looks suspicious or out of place or if you had a package delivered that you were not expecting, just give us a call and let us come clear at first. spencer now this person, whoever is doing this or this group of people, they know that you guysn to what is going on. and i imagine that you are going to -- are you upping your patrol, your presence around austin, what is your plan? >> we are obviously having our patrol officers be vigilant in the neighborhood. they in addition to all of the neighbors that we are asking to look out for anything suspicious, the officers will be looking for something that looks out of place or suspicious. but there is a level of attention and a level of involvement that we have not seen before. the number of atf and fbi agents that have come into austin to assist us with this investigation. the governor himself has put a $15,000 reward out there for any information leading to a closure
of this case. and then we have also had assistance given to us from any of the local partners as well. we are all working together so that we can clear this as quickly as possible before we move lose any more lives or have any lives impacted. >> martha: it is terrifying. thank you so much. good to have you tonight, chief manley. we hope you keep us posted. you have to find this guy. good luck to you. >> thank you, martha. we appreciate it. >> martha: former deputy assistant, dani, good evening to you. you listen to the story and the chief, what are you picking up here in the tea leaves so far. >> first place, that was an excellent briefing, you do not always see that. he did an outstanding job by getting the people in austin notified that there was a danger. and this case will be solved by a public assistance, i feel quite sure. right now he mentioned this, and i know it to be true, atf and
fbi and gtf and austin pd are putting a full court press on this. there are a lot of things that are going to be done. fbi saw the boston marathon bombing in a couple of days. this may take a little bit longer, but they will solve this case. it will be done a lot by public assistance and the saturation that the law enforcement puts on these types of events. >> martha: you think of the unabomber who the chief mention, i also think of the d.c. sniper, you have a fear of just a random act potentially that are happening anywhere in your city. and you do not know if it will happen to you. it is terrifying for anybody who lives in the area to touch anything coming in your mail. >> we want to them to be afraid. that sounds a little sinister, but we want them to be very much aware of the threat to them. and i think that it is interesting that all of them are at residences and not public places, generally a terrorist bent on making a statement will put it in a public place for
more carnage. the fact that it was done at a home, that may be the focus of the investigation by both the fbi and the apd. i will tell you, i have managed to let the unabomber, really we only caught him because he wanted his manifesto published. before that, we had no idea who he was. they are difficult. >> martha: and that took 18 months. >> yes, no, years. >> martha: >> martha: it is inc. this person is good at what they did. he appears to be 3 for 3 at this point. >> it does, and the chief said this, the truth to this thing, when you talk about sophistication is that it does not go off in your hand. or in your car is who are transporting it. and all of these are a pressure switch coming into the person knows what he or she is doing. that makes it even more sinister. if we get the message out, martha, if you find something on your front porch, do not touch it. no matter if it is a box or a
wooden container, whatever. just be really careful. >> martha: you know how many packages, everything comes to your house, it's the only way people get things these days. >> that is exactly right. >> martha: it will be insane, i would imagine. >> remember, these were not delivered by amazon or fedex. it is just a package with nothing on it. so that makes it's limited to some degree. >> martha: danny, thank you very much. we have to catch this individual or individuals, good to see you. thank you. coming up, we have another fox news alert for you, the house intel committee has completed their brush investigation. they say that they found no evidence after all of their interviews that there was any collusion with russia by either campaign. corey lewandowski appearing before the committee, his reaction to the breaking news tonight coming up next. hillary clinton telling an international audience that she lost because white women were just voting the way their
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>> i really feel strongly about rick saccone, and i know him. i feel strongly about them. he has a fine human being. he is a good person. to go on tuesday and vote. you have to get out there. >> martha: vote like crazy, 12 hours away from voting to begin in what has turned out to be one of the most highly anticipated races this year so far. president trump held a raucous rally over the weekend for rick saccone. his son donald junior was campaigning as well. both fighting to keep a congressional district from turning blue. a district that now president trump won by 20 points in 2016. so they should not even be in play for republicans. the latest polling shows a very tight race. 45% saccone, 51% for conor lamb as we head into election day. joining me now, karl rove, former senior adviser to
president bush in a fox news contributor, and a former senior adviser to hillary clinton, welcome, gentleman paid good to see both of you as always. so karl, pulling out a lot of money. trying to pull him across the finish line. >> absolutely, the democrats have the picture-perfect candidate, a former marine, prosecutor, somebody who says he will not support nancy pelosi, opposed to abortion. applauding things of president trump which he agrees, not the normal democrat. the republican has been underwhelming, but if saccone wins, it will be because donald trump came in and campaigned for them. if he loses, it will be because the president's approval ratings even in this district are not particularly high. they are currently not where they need to be for somebody in a year and a half in office. >> martha: what is your take on this? that should not have been a battle for the republican in the district?
>> it should not have been, and a little bit of what karl rove just said come up with the president does not have any coattails, and we will talk about conor lamb being an exceptional candidate, which he is. but the truth of the matter is that it should not come to this. and if it comes to this repeatedly in november, the republican party cannot put in the resources. they cannot put in $10 million into dozens and dozens of close races. and it is not a good sign, even if saccone spells it out by a couple of points but i would not feel good if i was the head of the rnc. >> martha: how does this reflect on the work that the gnc has done, karl rove? we hear that this is all about candidates, they need really strong candidates in all of these places. >> i am involved in a super packed on the senate side, and there are limits to what they can do, the principal reason a canna gets gets close to winning or wins is because of the candidate in the campaign's organization.
outside groups can help lift them up, but they cannot get them from zero over to 51. i want to comment on something quickly that philippe is saying, democrats are going to find it hard to duplicate conor lamb. we sought in texas, the preferred candidate in one of the best shots to pick up a republican seat was in west texas, the guy who is a former prosecutor, military background, was beaten by somebody who spent $600 to move back to the district after 18 years of washington. six months before the election. and he actually came in fourth behind a guy who spent $20,000 had another candidate who sent lamech spent $40,000. because he was not a typical democrat. the typical democrat is far more left-wing than either hollins or lamb. >> martha: it is about a candidate that has to pull them across the finish line in the
end. here's president trump talking about his new 2020 campaign slogan. >> the new slogan we start running is "can you believe two years from now, "keep america great!" said >> martha: you say watching him over the weekend that you could see him winning again. >> once he won on election night i could see that, and karl rove has better success rate at this than i do, but it seems to be harder to win the office and to keep the office if you go back as far as richard nixon, five of the last seven president saw the second term won it. and it comes with some built in. we saw some of them the other night. i think the president prefers to campaign like that. i was surprised that keeping america great was no surprise,
i'm surprised about the exclamation point, because i'm sure that there is one making fun of jed bush with the jeb! >> martha: i saw this today, and i was a little bit taken aback, she was at the conclave, and here's what she said. she said, what happened in my election was on the way to women demand quinine, jim comey drop that vilifies a to let her come up and down my numbers went paid all of a sudden white women who are going to vote for me in standing up to the men in their lives are told, to jail. what we do not have is at the top of this which i found the most striking in the whole thing was that she said that women voted, that white women voted the way that their husbands and their bosses and their sons told them to. which i think that a lot of women will take great offense to. >> do you want to take this one? >> no, it is for you, philippe.
what do you got? >> i will invoke karl on the one friend, and this is something that she has said before. secretary clinton seems to definitely trigger people when she asks and answers questions about what happened in the election. she thinks out loud. in this particular case she is talking about an oregon state study that does a look at this fact. and i understand why that would come across as insulting. obviously that is not -- >> martha: all of those women who elected this president, karl, they voted that way because their husbands and their bosses -- a woman who has fought for women's rights and women's power as long as she has been in politics. i could not believe that she actually said that. >> help me out here. >> i can't either, frankly. this is a reminder of why she was such a terrible candidate. >> come on.
to speak of the deplorable's and insults, and if you look at the polls, and i'm not a fan of jim comey's, but if you look between that friday announcement and the election, there is very little change in the polls. and somehow to suggest that white women moved away from her because of the remarks on friday that were undone on monday is ridiculous. but women were told so to do so by their husbands or their bosses or their children, and women that voted for her did so out of i don't know what -- it just is jaw-dropping lead tone-deaf. condescending and stupid. >> to correct one thing, you are skipping ten days in between, it was not friday, saturday, sunday, it was a week and a half before. >> but on friday jim comey says we have reopened, and then on monday they say, never mind. >> is not the same weekend. >> ten more days to go. eight more after that.
but the whole thing was that friday. >> do you agree -- >> martha: i want to hear from all of those women that voted just because their husbands and their bosses and their sons told them to you. >> looked up the oregon state. >> martha: think you guys. good to see you both. we have this breaking news as well. watch this. >> we can find no evidence of collusion between either campaign and the russians. >> martha: the house committee says that they are done with their work, they have spent a year investigating and today have their findings. they have done numerous interviews with witnesses. they did not find any collusion not even between the trump campaign in russia come up with the clinton in russia. former campaign manager corey lewandowski has testified in front of the committee twice but he has live here next. and in the wake of a series of paternity hazing deaths, one
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>> a big piece of the puzzle that everybody has been talking about, one of the reasons why your investigation was struck in the first place. no collusion that you found -- >> no evidence. >> between the trump campaign and the russians? how confident are you of that? >> we have had none. >> martha: that was mike conway announcing the house intelligence committee russia investigation has ended. there are others on the hill that say "we have found no evidence on collusion between the trump campaign in the russians as he said they are. the committee has conducted more than 70 interviews during its probe including just last week former manager of president trump president trump 2016 campaign corey lewandowski joins us now. also serving us chief strategist of the trump super pac. good to have you here tonight. >> think of for having me. >> martha: this is something that you have said all along that you believe that there was no collusion. and i will put out what adam
schiff has said in response. he says while the majority of committee members have seen it for some time come under great pressure to ending investigation. it is nonetheless another tragic milestone for this congressman. another capitulation of the executive to the executive branch. he would like for you to come in for the third round. >> it is amazing, i sat voluntarily for a total of 12 hours answering every question that they had about my tenure at the trump campaign. i never interacted with russians and the candidate never interacted with russians, there was no collusion or cooperation or coordination. i could've had that done in 5 minutes. i did not coordinate with anybody to impact to the outcome of the election. but mr. schiff wants this to be a bully pulpit. i sat through on thursday and said, before i get up and leave, i've been here for four and a half hours, are there any additional questions? and there were no additional questions, so this motion that
he wants a grandstand and have people come back and talk some more, he had all of the time on thursday to ask me as many questions as he wanted and that was no more questions. there was no collusion. >> martha: there two pages of pictures, so >> tfor having me. the suggestion that they have not been thorough is going to be kind of tough to sell. at it for a year which most people would consider a fairly reasonable amount of time. and there are other investigations that are ongoing as we know. he says that he might subpoena you because you were selected to what you would answer and not answer, would you do that? speak with the majority knows that i answered every question that was important to their investigation. i answered all of their questions, they have interviewed 73 people before the committee and what chairman conway has said is that he saw no collusion between the trump campaign in the russians, and between the clinton campaign in the russians, and what we have not seen, as you know is the list of
73 democrats including robbie moo and all of the members of the clinton campaign would have had to come and testify. why did not that occur, because the only campaign that i know of that took money and paid a former spy was a clinton campaign. and he took that money and went to russia to create a false dossier. that's what really took place. and the house intelligence committee never looked at that issue, to what i am aware of. >> martha: obviously the number has been out aloud, and said a few things about you. i could play 30 seconds, but here is like seven seconds. you get the idea. >> cory was so lazy, could not organize a campaign. he cannot organize a foreign policy. >> martha: you guys get along really well, right? he fired you twice? >> i fired him twice, if anybody knows me, there are a lot of things you can say about me, lazy is not one of them. i am up at 4:00 in the morning. going to bed at 11:00 or 12:00 at night.
and unfortunately what he said, these are his own words, he was going to testify in front of the grand jury on friday, which he did. he was going to check himself into rehab. clearly he has some substance abuse issues and who should take care of those for his own health. >> martha: last thoughts. i wonder if you heard that hillary clinton quote. basically she was speaking at a conference in india. we are working on getting that sound. she said that women who voted for president trump did so because they basically were pressured by their husbands, their bosses and to their sons. that's why they voted for him. what is your response for that being on the campaign trail for all of those months? >> it is so outrageous to say shows nothing. hillary clinton was a terrible candidate. and would you imagine if donald trump or another republican said the exact same thing? that women aren't intelligent enough to make their own decisions and the only way they can decide who to vote for is if their husbands, their sons or their male bosses tell them to
do so, it is such a disgusting thing. this is supposed to be a person who has fought her entire life to destroy the glass ceiling, fireworks on election night, and now she tapes this type of statement. i hope women around the country stand up and tell her how wrong she is. >> martha: she thinks only democratic women speak their mind. so that's her opinion. thank you, good to see you tonight. still ahead, this is fascinating. amelia ehrhardt's mystery may finally be solved. a new clue that could close the case on what happened to her. but first, more than a year after the death of penn state fraternity pledge. one university is now crossing the line and banishing a sorority. they are accused of being just the status of the boys. mike huckabee on the culture in our country that is creating
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♪ >> martha: developing tonight, the skirt and tea towards hazing at sorority's. over the past five years at least 20 people have died in hazing incidents in fraternity is across this nation. the last year eight fraternities and sororities were shut down nationwide and a trend that may continue. now we are learning about a scandalous scavenger hunt. which seems like a harmless thing out of pennsylvania lehigh university. no one was hurt, but it was enough to get the sorority alpha chi omega, a huge national sorority banished for two years from the campus. they are appealing that. trace gallagher joins us live with the back story. >> does scavenger hunt held back in december was a road rally, happened on and off campus and involved with drugs, alcohol,
sex and other activities that violate policy. alpha chi omega's theta chi chapter was placed on an interim suspension organizations headquarters ordered the sorority to cease and desist all activity. the full investigation has led to a two year ban with the investigative committee saying just because the participants were willing does not mean that it was not hazing. the committee also found evidence that this event has been going on for years saying "this incident was a significant reprehensible event that the entire chapter was aware of and leadership endorsed." this type of behavior is unacceptable considering the current climate on college campuses. that's current climate clearly intimates cases like timothy piazza, the sophomore who during a pledging ritual drink excessive amounts of alcohol in a short period of time and suffered multiple falls including down a flight of stairs. his fellow pledges and fraternity members waited
several hours to get help. and timothy piazza died of traumatic brain injuries two days later. 26 fraternity members were then charged. and there is the case of florida state university andrew coffey who died from alcohol poisoning in november following hazing rituals pretty drink an entire bottle of wild turkey 101 proof whiskey and after passing out he was left on the couch unattended. his alcohol level was six times the legal limit. his parents have now sued the pi kappa phi national fraternity for negligence among other things. >> martha: thank you very much. joining me now, former arkansas governor mike huckabee, fox news contributor. good to see you tonight. we turn to you often on issues of where we are going as a country. and i think that these questions raise this. when you have, this is just one example, but you have the sorority. and a scavenger hunt sounds like a fun thing. you look for things, look for a
certain statue, but it turns out that the stops along the way and the scavenger hunt dealt with sex acts, alcohol and drugs that had to be accomplished of the scavenger hunt, what do you make of this? >> the worst part is the sorority or the fraternity being a part of a sisterhood or a brotherhood, this is treating people like they are slaves. it is an indecent way for a person to be treated regardless of the circumstances. and the depersonalization, the fact that you can take a human being that has been entrusted to the care of the university by parents who are spending an enormous amount of money to send them to college and then they end up needlessly dead because of this kind of outrageous behavior. martha, it is symptomatic of a society that has lost touch. i would say, and let me be bold and saying, lost touch with god and each other and the common
sense of decency. i am hoping that not just the suspension of a sorority, but the sense of a personal and spiritual revival breaks out in the country where we start treating people like human beings will rather than thin's limiting things and objects. >> martha: a lot of people have a nostalgic view of what's fraternities and sororities were like when they were growing up, i was in one when i went to school. and there was, and you know, there is too much drinking, too much of a lot of things. okay, but i find it interesting, because the students today were raised in a culture where they had an enormous amount of focus in grammar school. on things like bullying, sensitivity, fitness and your body and understanding drinking and all of those things. and i'm starting to wonder if these things blew up in our faces. because we have not raised
overall a generation that is treating each other very well. it is not a new situation. >> it is not new, we go will go back to the ' 60s in '70s and there were some raunchy things that were going on in college culture and our regular culture. there's not one thing that is a contributing factor. but social media has given people a sense of a nonamenity that they do not have connections with human beings. they go back to devices. and it has contributed that people are not humans and i can say things to them, do things to them, because i am hiding behind a pseudonym or an identity that i do not have to reveal. and i think that that is a horrible way. when we depersonalize with people whether it is an unborn child, is simply a fetus or jews as the nazis did.
or people of color that they are only three fist of a human being. that is the beginning of horrendous inhumane treatment to other human beings. and i do not think that you can divorce that. the depersonalization is a critical part of it. >> martha: i think that we have to remember when we send kids off to college that they need to look out for themselves and their integrity and where they came from and be able to say, i'm not doing that. i'm not doing that. part of the scavenger hunt, whatever it is. it is tough. a lot of peer pressure. we have to give them strength for it. thank you so much. always glad to have you here. coming up next, for more than 80 years, the fate of amelia earhart has sparked theory after theory. now a mysterious disappearance has been solved. what we just learned that may have answered a whole lot of questions. >> she took off from miami and
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>> martha: the disappearance of amelia ehrhardt, one of america's biggest mysteries may finally be solved. a brand-new analysis found that the bones discovered on a remote island in the middle of the pacific ocean which they once thought belonged to a man. now they did a new scientific analysis and they say coming us. 99% chance that they do belong to the same pilot. amelia ehrhardt disappeared in july of 1927, it has intrigued generations. joining me now, the curator of the aeronautics department at the smithsonian space museum, one of the best stops in washington, d.c., joins us. good to skip tonight, dorothy. talk to us about the science between the new measuring of the measurements of the bones what he was going by, what did you find? >> well, i do not think that he found emily ehrhardt's bones, because i do not believe that she was flying into the vicinity of the island. because she was the morning that
she was add to the island, we knew that she was very close to howland island because the coast guard was there awaiting her. and they were receiving strong radio calls from her that she was in the vicinity there. and she was actively searching for helen island. so for that reason, that is one of the reasons that i believe that she was up near the island. and to the second reason i do not believe that she was down there was because six days later, they overflow that island and saw absolutely no signs of any person or airplane crash. >> martha: fascinating. then there is this picture that was found not too long ago, let's put that up on the screen. that is from 1937. and if you look at them closely, some people believe that that could be amelia ehrhardt on the dock and then her navigator is
off to the left in that picture. what do you think about that theory? do you give it any credence? >> no, that was debunked two or three days later after that broadcast when a researcher in japan notified everyone that that picture had actually been taken in 1935. so she was nowhere near there either. it could be anybody. it could be a man or a woman. that is the backside of someone. so it is really not conclusive at all. >> martha: what do you think in the minute that i have left, what is your theory. >> i do believe that she was very close to helen island, she had an excellent navigator, they were searching in the morning, and tired and got close to the island, they were searching for it, flying into the sun. there was major communication problems with the coast guard's. and with her communication product program. the main thing is that she did
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spirit and houston strong. >> martha: congratulations to them. a tough year for houston and a good finish. more "the story" back here. my friend tucker carlson is coming up next. ♪ >> tucker: this is a fox news alert, a draft report by members of the house intelligence committee says that there is "no evidence of collusion coordination or conspiracy between the trump campaign and the russians." that is the results of 14 months of investigation. good evening, welcome to "tucker carlson tonight," the report we just referred to found no evidence of collusion, says that america was woefully on educated to check the efforts. it also blasts our top intelligence officials were leaking to the media. 150 page report will be reviewed by democrats and intelligence officials before it is where the least to the public. mike conway, the republican representing