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he ate jay passed away -- >> kimberly: that's kind of young. >> jesse: he lived a fast life. set your dvrs, never miss an episode. "special report" up next. bret baier. >> bret: some days it's a harder return than others. thanks, jesse. president trump calls out special counsel robert mueller my name as lawmakers warm about a possible fire of the prosecutor. plus the fallout from the termination of the former number two man of the fbi, just days before his retirement. and russian president vladimir putin says he wants no part of an arms race after winning his fourth presidential term. this is "special report." ♪ good evening. welcome to washington. i am bret baier. president trump is breaking new ground in his resistance to the special counsel investigation of alleged collusion with the russians. the president referred to robert
mueller by name for the first time over the weekend and he is repeating his claim that the entire affair is a witch hunt. this comes while the smoke is still clearing from the termination of the former fbi number two, andrew mccabe. fox team coverage denied. brit hume is here with analysis on what this means. what it may mean. kevin corke on the growing bitterness between president trump and muller. we begin with catherine herridge and where mccabe took notes during his meeting with the president that has turned them over to muller. >> thank you and good evening. tonight special counsel robert mueller has memos from the fired fbi director james comey and has fire deputy director, andrew mccabe, as a political fallout grows. the source close to the fired fbi director confirms that he documented her conversations with president trump or he also raised the case in the unsuccessful rate joe mccabe received money.
the fbi said the damping contributions were not a conflict because it was before mccabe took the helm. critics say the contributions show bad judgment and his termination for cause undercuts his credibility. >> i don't think there's any big deal. i'm sure that president trump never said anything to andrew mccabe that was illegal or implied any type of illegality. you could give all the memos you want. >> president trump, who praised mccabe's wiring is a great gain for the fbi, emphasize that he spent very little time with the fbi's former number two, insinuating that he drafted the memos to help his own agenda. one senior republican called a public hearings to show whether mccabe's termination was suspect, coming two days before his government pension technician. >> when it comes to this issue, we need as much transparency as possible to make sure it wasn't politically motivated. >> fox news has learned the fbi branch that investigates misconduct allegations began looking at mccabe as early as last summer. the grant for their mentation
goes mentation goes beyond media leaks. the special general concluded that he lacked candor on multiple occasions. fbi veterans who want the inspector general to make the evidence possible as soon as possible as soon as possible cb rules are strict. >> lack of candor potentially get you fired. that expectation applies to the branch and a fbi agent and it should apply to the deputy director. >> a senior host democrat indicates that the firing might be justified. a half-dozen of directors comey's closest associates, including james baker, chief of staff james roy beckett, senior agent peter strzok, lawyer lisae gordon, have retired, been fired, reassign, or demoted. >> is this because they corroborate james comey? this is a question we also have to answer. >> in his statement, mccabe sent directors comey knew about us contact with the media, which observers said appears to conflict with the former director's testimony days before he got fired. >> have you ever authorized
someone else at the fbi to be an anonymous source in news or sports about the trump investigation or the clinton investigation? >> no. >> the inspector general's report could come at any time but in recent weeks, sources tell fox news new leads were pursued in new interviews conducted. >> bret: thank you. the president has just returned to the white house after a trip to new hampshire to talk about his opioid strategy. we'll have more on that and just a minute. but first, correspondent kevin corke on the president's increasing hostility toward the russia investigation and what could be next on the president's attorneys. >> it was an unfiltered, unabashed, and unrestrained tweety storm. president trump using twitter over the weekend to to a sale special counsel robert mueller and the russia probe saying there was no collusion and no crime. accusing the fbi, justice, and state departments of leaking, lying, and corruption. adding defiantly, "a total witch hunt with massive conflict
of interest." the muller probe, which is not had five guilty pleas from trump associates so far is awash in controversy. in part because of its sprawling nature and as yet still no evidence of collusion. even as mr. trump becomes increasingly bombastic, leaders on capitol hill including members of the president's very own party are warning him and his attorneys to back off. >> when it comes to mr. miller, he is following the evidence where it takes in. i think it is very important he be allowed to do his job without interference and there are many republicans who share my view. >> if you have an interesting client, act like it. russia attacked our country. let special counsel mueller figure that out. >> the white house is also rejecting suggestions of the president has become so frustrated by the investigation, which has expanded to include documents from the trump organization, that he plans to get rid of the man in charge. white house attorney ty cobb said the president is not considering or discussing the firing of special counsel robert
mueller. the president's complaint that the widening investigation is a witch hunt is not new, nor novel. in fact, it's reminiscent of what clinton white house officials said about the probe led by independent counsel ken starr back in 1998. he was called corrupt. his office, the source of too many leaks, and then president clinton, the object of, you guessed it, a political witch hunt. >> this is the first place i came for the primaries. >> in new hampshire today, the president look to get back on message, promoting his administration's effort to combat opioid abuse. calling for tougher sanctions against drug dealers including the death penalty. the president also extended his legal team, hiring former u.s. attorney for the district of columbia joe digenova. he previously argued that the president may have been framed by the doj and the fbi. a bulldog attorney to his team. >> bret: kevin corke live on the north lawn. thank you. let's get some perspective.
senior political analyst brit hume is here with us tonight. good evening, brit. >> high max, bret. >> bret: first, let's start with mccabe, the fallout from the firing, and what has transpired over the last couple of days. >> bret, i see very little basis based on what we know now to think that this firing was any thing but on the up and up. this inquiry that grew out of it, the inspector general's investigation has been going on back before trump was president. it came across things about mccabe, leaks that he was involved in, and then the lack of candor as it was put. to investigators about it. that is a very big deal inside the fbi. the matter was -- that piece of it -- was passed to the fbi's own office of professional responsibility, which looked at it, and recommended that mccabe be fired. there's been a lot of criticism at the firing was rushed but mccabe was on the verge of retirement, after which he could
not be fired. so the firing came at the very last minute. it seems to me that far from being rushed, it may have been held off until they were facing a deadline after which she couldn't be fired. it looks to me it's on the up and up. we want to know everything until the inspector general's report come out. we will know more about the facts upon which it was based. it looks okay to me. >> bret: talking to senators grassley and graham last week, the list of questions they had and calling for a special counsel seems like they know much more about what is a met ig's report that is upcoming. to mueller outcome of the talk around town is the question, is the president going to fire mueller or somehow set the stage for that. your thoughts? >> he certainly didn't stop him for his criticism of mueller. as we noted earlier, we mention him by name. that is provoked to speculation that he's about to drop the hammer on him. i have my doubts, bret. i notice that ty cobb who speaks
for the president said, in the last 24 hours, that he had no plans or isn't even discussing doing it. of course the president must be aware that the last time that was tried was my richard nixon dealing with a special prosecutor and the consequences of that was that he got another special prosecutor in the investigation went on and led ultimately to where he was up on the verge of being impeached. i suspect he's aware that getting rid of this special prosecutor blood -- or the special counsel -- would only generate another one and he would be right where he started from. >> bret: this is not unprecedented. >> no, it's not unprecedented. it didn't turn out very well for the presidency to the firing. >> bret: rights. as far as the public talk of a special counsel, you covered a white house which did not, as well. >> we certainly -- the stuff we are hearing said, witch hunt, as kevin corke pointed out in his report, this appears to be right out of the clinton playbook, where you don't fire the special
prosecutor, special counsel, what you do if you try to either soften him up by criticize him or her discredit him so he becomes something that's our diverse do you come at believed. my own guess is that that probably won't work if that is what he is trying to do. i don't think that the president's comments on the weekend about the mccabe firing were helpful at all in the sense that his gloating over it only added to the suspicion that he was somehow behind it, although it's very difficult to figure out how that would have worked. >> bret: brit, as always. thank you. >> thank you, bret. >> bret: president trump's personal attorney says he has never threatened adult film actor stormy daniels, who said she had an affair with president trump in 2006. michael cohen michael cohen tells "vanity fair" he has never met, spoken to, emails, or texted daniels. last week, daniels' attorney said she had been physically threatened. michael cohen paid daniels $130,000 to keep quiet.
president trump's attorneys filed paperwork claiming stormy daniels actually owes them $20 million for violating her confidentiality agreement. a long day on wall street. the dow was down almost 500 points. before finishing off 336. the s&p 500 fell 39. the nasdaq nosedived 138. facebook was one of the big reasons for the drop. we'll have a full report on what happened with that. in just a few minutes. as we mentioned a moment ago, the president on the first lady were in new hampshire this afternoon to lay out more details of the administration plan to deal with the opioid crisis. senior correspondent rick leventhal shows us tonight for manchester. >> president trump getting a firsthand look at one of the front lines of the opioid crisi crisis. the manchester fire department says 70% of the incoming calls are for medical issues, primarily drug overdoses. 2600 of the past three years with at least 255 deaths in this
one town. firefighters were responding to so many o.d. calls for decided to invite the addicts here instead. every firehouse became a safe station where users can walk in for a medical checkup and get fast tracked into a treatment program. >> new hampshire was one of the first states to enter this opioid crisis but we will be one of the first is to come out of it because of programs like safe station. >> we first profiled safe station on "special report" just before the 2016 presidential election and got an update from chief dan gruden just last week. >> i don't see an end right now. although i know is that we are providing a service to the community and a place for people to come when they are at that point, we may reach that point, we try to capture that moment that they either have a moment of clarity or they are so detailed that they just need help. that is what we are here to do is capture that and get them a shot at treatment. >> defeating this epidemic will require the commitment of every state, local, and federal agency. failure is not an option. addiction is not our future.
>> the president came to the granite state to unveil a new plan to combat the opiate epidemic, including legislation to reduce the amount of drugs needed to trigger mandatory minimum sentences for traffickers. developing nonaddictive painkillers, expanding access to treatment and recovery programs, and called for tighter enforcement of federal death penalty statutes already on the books, targeting drug king things in major dealers whose product could be killing thousands. >> we are not going to get tough on the drug dealers who kill thousands of people and destroy so many people's lives, we are just doing the wrong thing. we have got to get tough. this is not about mice anymore. >> the president said he spoke with leaders of other countries who say they don't have a drug problem because they have the death penalty for dealers. he says building a border wall will help stop the flow of heroin and other illegal drugs from mexico and that shutting down sanctuary cities is critical because those cities
are sheltering dangerous traffickers from justice. bret? >> bret: rick leventhal live in manchester. thank you. uber has suspended all of its self-driving testing after what is believed to be the first fatal pedestrian accident involving the self-driving vehicles. police in tempe, arizona, state and uber vehicle was an autonomous mode with an operator behind the vehicle when a woman outside of a crosswalk was hit. luber has been testing the self-driving vehicles in several cities for months. the company says as it is fully cooperating with this investigation. officials in austin, texas, are trying to determine whether another package bombing last night is connected to three previous explosions in that city. there are significant differences, but also some similarities in this latest case. officials now may be looking for a serial bomber there. correspondent casey stegall was in the texas capital tonight with this investigation. good evening.
>> good evening to you, bret. this is a city on high alert tonight because you just mention to the police chief's own words at a news conference today saying he fears this could be the work of a serial bomber. the only thing they will say is that there are similarities between the explosive device that was used last night and the other three that have also rocked the capital city in recent weeks. only this time police say the device was more advanced and it had a trip wire attached. then just after 8:30 last night, two men came through with bicycles and may have inadvertently hit the line, triggering the blast. they were seriously hurt and rush to an area hospital, expected to survive. but at one point in the investigation, police had considered whether these attacks were possibly racially motivated because the first victims were either black or hispanic. but that is no longer the thinking after last night's crime.
>> and what we have seen now is a significant change from what it appeared to be three very targeted attacks to what was last night and attack that would have hit a random victim that happened to walk by. we definitely have seen a change in the method that the suspect is using. >> that change has them on aler alert. march 2nd is when this began. the first explosion killed a man when he opened an unidentified package containing a bomb that had been left on his front doorstep. ten days later, across town, similar parcels showed up at two other homes and exploded. a second victim died in one of those blasts and two others were critically hurt. today texas governor greg abbott releasing $265,000 of the states emergency funds to help the austin police department and other law enforcement agencies purchase seven portable x-ray
machines commonly used in bomb and explosively explosive dete. >> bret: casey stegall live in austin, texas. thank you. up next, congressional lawmakers want to talk to facebook's ceo over the misuse of data on tens of millions of users. the big story today we'll bring to you next. first, what our affiliates are covering. fox 2 in st. louis says lawyers for republican governor eric greitens wants is an invasion of privacy trial to start in as little as two weeks. he was indicted last month ricky accused of taking a nonconsensual photo of a woman with whom he was having an affair. the governor says he is not guilty. he is expected to ask for a bench trial instead of having a jury. wtr be in louisville, as four people are injured after two trains collided in georgetown kentucky. norfolk southern says the crew members take into the hospital after the crash were taken there as a precaution. they have been released with no
injuries, the one employee is still being evaluated. this is a live look for miami. our affiliate down there, the big story there, florida international university students return to class following thursday's deadly bridge collapsed. one of the six who died was a student there, a vigil for the victims is scheduled for wednesday. that is tonight's live look outside the beltway from "special report" ." we'll be right back. ♪ feel the clarity of non-drowsy
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house bill 1510 bands most abortions after 15 weeks gestation. pregnancies from rape and incest are not exempted. considering an ordinance to exempt the town from california's sanctuary state law. the proposed measure says city council members have taken an oath to uphold the constitution and the state's policy against cooperating with federal immigration agents may conflict with that. california-based facebook is taking considerable fire tonight over reports the company led a data mining firm affiliated with the trump campaign have access to information about tens of millions of users. may be you. national correspondent william judging us -- william la jeunesse lays it out. >> facebook playing defense after this was a bar claims the company failed to protect the personal data of up to 50 million people. later used by an outside firm to target voters in 2016.
>> facebook, at least an technical sense, it facilitated the project. >> it began when facebook allowed a cambridge professor to create a nap. when users signed up, it asked about their education, work history, relationship, and political affiliation. that professor then illegally sold information to an analytics firm to influence voter opinion. >> what cambridge on the let a guy does a web of diverse information on line so that people start going down the rabbit hole of clicking on blogs, websites, et cetera that make them think that certain things are happening that may not be afraid to speak of the trump campaign hired cambridge analytica, a firm backed by a former campaign manager steve bannon and while the republican donor robert mercer. all of the company and the trump campaign see none of the facebook information was used in the election, critics are not convinced. >> who knew it, when did they know what, how long did this go on, and what happens to that
data now? >> ceo mark zuckerberg could be called to capitol hill to explain. >> we need to find out what we can about the miss appropriation of the private information of tens of millions of americans. >> the company faces two critical questions. one, that i failed to report the unauthorized access to the federal government as required? and did it obtain user permission before sharing personal information? >> the key issue is not so much whether the methodology that cambridge analytica touted, whether it mattered, the key issue is that the data were available to the trump campaign. >> this is a legal and political fight. special counsel robert mueller reportedly wants emails between the company and the trump team as part of his russia investigation. late today, facebook called for a complete audit of what happened. bret? >> bret: more on this with the panel. russian president vladimir putin says he does not want an arms race with the west. putin is coming off a landslide
win to secure his fourth term, not a surprise there. many are crediting his current battle with great britain for giving him a boost. senior foreign affairs correspondent amy kellogg is in moscow again tonight. >> he cleaned up. russian president vladimir putin got 77% of the vote. his campaign chairman said that was thanks to great britain. amidst accusations that moscow was to blame for the poison attack on british soil. the pressure on putin these days and has resistance surely added another eight to 10% to his numbers, according to putin's aid. victories secured, he finally addressed the attack on russian double agent and his daughter for the first time. claiming he actually learned about the "tragedy from the media. >> translator: any sensible person understands business complete fantasy. rubbish and nonsense. for someone and russia might do something like this on the eve of a presidential election, and the world cup.
it is simply on think about. >> the u.k. foreign secretary who is meeting in brussels to discuss the incident with european partners said putin's reaction was straight out of moscow's playbook. >> i think people can see that this is a classic russian strategy of trying to conceal the needle of proof in a haystack of lies and obfuscation. >> this, as reports emerged the poison may have come out through the ventilation system of skripal's car. notable that putin's first appearance election night was at a crimea annexation anniversary party next to red square. it does this by positing saga boosted his numbers, some say crime crimea secured his future. >> the annexation of crimea sent to the message to the nation that there is no alternative. here at home, to what russia is now and where russia is going,
and to his heading russia. >> putin was asked if he might consider changing the constitution against him he could run for yet another term in 2024. he sort of laugh that off, saying what you people think of that he really wanted to keep running the country until he is 100 years old? the question still hangs in the air. bret. >> bret: may be so. amy, thank you. up next, congress is once again facing a deadline to give the federal government funded. we'll bring you that. stay tuned. ♪
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clinton says that she did not realize how hard her comments would hit many who heard them. the u.s. supreme court is refusing to get involved in the ongoing dispute over pennsylvania's congressional boundaries. the justices are letting stand a state court imposed a map could benefit democrats by denying an emergency stay of enforcement filed by g.o.p. state lawmakers. the high court's action came just hours after a separate federal court and state also allowed the redrawn boundaries to take effect. these two court decisions make it much more likely pennsylvania will use the new maps this election year. candidates for congress now have one day to circulate petitions to get on on the may 15th primy ballot. we are just a few days away from yet another funding deadline for the federal government. right now some in congress are coming over a plan to avoid talk of another shutdown. as chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel reports from a capital, this time lawmakers are thinking more
long-term. >> tonight, how's lawmakers are getting their first look at a massive $1.8 trillion government spending package facing a friend and i deadline to get it done. or broken leaders saved like the strongest investment in the military in 15 years. it will help with readiness. a georgia republican who serves in the air force reserve says that investment is critical. >> when you have seen the military in me seated like it was under sequestration, under the obama administration, when i feel is very part military division, we are seeing that coming to pay back. >> the funding bill also includes a 24% pay raise for military personnel. >> the white house and democrats rated offers over the weekend on addressing the so-called dreamers. that included a white house request for $25 billion for the border wall in exchange for extending daca until fall of 2020. democrats said no. >> they want the issue, not the solution, so they are rejecting it. we are trying to get to a
funding bill that will carry us through the rest of the fiscal year. >> democrats demanded to pass the citizenship in exchange for fully funding the wall and talks had a dead end. one of the top center democrats signaled his numbers are not trying a redline on the surgery. >> we are not going to have a shutdown. i'm urging the leaders to basically come together and understand there is an emergency at hand here. 780,000 young people have their lives hanging in the balance because president trump killed the daca program. >> most sources are very optimistic they will get it done but i'll acknowledge the possibility there could be very well be drama before the deadline. >> bret: mike emanuel live on the hill. thank you. you and your family and all of your fellow americans are now more than $21 trillion in debt. the u.s. passed that threshold last week as we reported. deirdre bolden of the fox business network tells us what all this means. >> the u.s. government just hit a record, but not one with
bragging rights. we are in debt, a lot of death. the u.s. government spends a much more than it takes in. during president obama's tenure, the national debt nearly doubled. democrats and republicans agreed to government bailouts of numerous industries after the 2008 financial crisis. this past year, there were a dozen large-scale storms, combined, the cost of responding and rebuilding was about $200 billion. while few citizens find fault with the reasoning, the money is still spent. recently president trump asked for more money for defense, supporting the fight against isis and funding the department of veterans affairs and other agencies. some politicians say there is a limit to what the country cannot afford. >> the greatest threat to our nation as we ourselves. it is our inability to deal with the fiscal issues that we have a the nation had. >> the director of national
intelligence dan coats has said that washington's lack of fiscal discipline undermines national security. president trump is not worried about the national debt. sources say he believes the american economy will grow and compensate for increases spending. in february, president trump signed a law that suspends the debt ceiling allowing the u.s. government to borrow as much as it needs to fund the activities approved by congress until march of next year. some economists say that the u.s. can increase its debt indefinitely, but then we would be an unchartered territory. bret, back to you. >> bret: thank you. next up, president trump calls out the special counsel by name in his latest tweets on the russian investigation. so what is next? we'll get reaction from the panel when we come back. ♪ when you say you need
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♪ >> they basically have said that mccabe leaked classified documents. that is illegal. but then he also lied about leaking classified documents and so the fbi are sticklers on this. they don't tolerate lying from their agents. if all of that is true, i see no way that they could continue in his office on punishment is appropriate. >> is firing may be justified, there is no way for us to know at this point. even though it may be justified, it may be tainted. 21 years of exceptional service and the fbi. so it was clearly rushed. i think there are questions
about that and whether the administration was putting pressure on the justice department to take this action. >> bret: there are many questions and we are expecting to get the inspector general's report any day now. that could have many of the answers that are some of these lawmakers are looking for. in the meantime, the president first tweeting about andrew mccabe, the number two man fired before his retirement. andrew mccabe fired, a great day for the hardworking men and women of the fbi come a great day for democracy. sanctimonious james comey was his boss and made mccabe look like a choir boy. he knew all the lies and corruption going on at the highest levels of the fbi." in the meantime, on the mueller probe, the president tweeting over the weekend... why does the steele have 13
hardened democrats, some big cricket hillary supporters and zero republicans? another recently added, does anyone think this is fair? yet there is no collusion. so it was a busy weekend on twitter and elsewhere. let's bring our panel. guy benson political editor at townhall.com. mara liasson, national political correspondent of national public radio. and mollie hemingway, senior editor at the federalist. mollie, fall out from mccabe and the comments about the molar probe. >> it is never a good thing when you're number two at the fbi is fired for bad behavior. what he has suggested that this is related to him leaking and lacking candor about it. it actually might be much bigger than that and there would be reason to think it would be much bigger. he's had a series of problems related to leaking and manipulation of processes and investigation. so it was a huge hit for this larger narrative. but we were told a year ago was that our intelligence chief and the highest levels of our intelligence agencies and law
enforcement agencies were apolitical, nonpartisan boy scouts who had a very legitimate reason to be worried about donald trump. a year later, we've had all these firings, removals, reassignments, and you have on twitter you can see people tweeting in a crazy fashion against this president. that narrative looks patently absurd now. it looks like a much different story than we were told a year ago. >> bret: mara? >> i think was really interesting is the president's reaction to this. we are going to find out the reasons why mccabe was fired when the ig report comes out. but he was doing a victory dance in the end zone, then he started attacking mueller for the first time by name and then one of his personal lawyers issued a statement saying the mueller investigation should end by that is never happened before. up until now, the white house that they were cooperating. so then became an uproar is the president getting ready to fire mueller? i don't think so. i think he is intent on discrediting the mueller investigation so that whatever he comes up with, he can dismiss it. >> bret: john dowd, who said
what he said. trey gowdy, congressman, was asked about this this weekend. >> the president's attorney, frankly decimated service when he says that and when he frames the investigation that way. chris, if you look at the jurisdiction for robert mueller, first and foremost, what did russia do to this country in 2016? that is supremely important and that has nothing to do with collusion. so to suggest that mueller should shut down and that all he is looking at is collusion, if you have been and is client, mr. dowd, act like it. >> bret: guy? speak about is a fair point for trey gowdy to make braidwood as strange as of mueller and the "special report" firing. in my view complete or separate issues although the president is connecting them and a lot of his fiercest critics are also connecting them. when you look at the mccabe firing, i think you can make a very strong case based on the facts that he would have been fired regardless of who was president.
regardless of the whole mueller investigation even if it didn't exist at all, because the malfeasance that is alleged apparently against mr. mccabe occurred in the 2016 auction. and that investigation, the ig probe, was launched before donald trump became president. it was an obama appointed inspector general who came to conclusions about what mccabe did. last but not least, the person who made the decision of the office had made the decision to recommend firing him was this ethics office at the fbi that was completely nonpartisan and the woman who runs it was appointed by bob mueller. on the merits, it looks like this was misconduct that mccabe is responsible for back in 2016. it should have nothing to do with mueller. >> also, i think what trey gowdy said was also kind of weird. it is possible for federal investigations to go off the rails and it has happened before. you can talk to richard jewels family about that. they basically ruined his life
before finding out he wasn't responsible for the bombing in atlanta. robert mueller and james comey themselves were involved in the worst botching of an fbi investigation of her, which was going after the innocent man in the anthrax killing and they oversaw that and were quite confident about it. ted stevens, the senator from alaska who had his vacated, i think mueller was head of the fbi at that time. sometimes investigations can go off the rails in answer to come at the pond to say that if the investigation -- >> the president has involved himself in a way that no other president has, urging the department of justice to make sure that mccabe was fired before he qualified for a pension, which happened 26 hours before he would've qualified. and then, connecting the mccabe firing with the russia investigation. mccabe would be potentially a witness in an obstruction of justice case. >> is also true that the president has complied with the mueller probe for over a year. >> no, he hasn't -- >> if you know there is no
collusion, but working with them for over a year and it is still going on in this narrative is being pushed to undermine the legitimacy of a president, i can imagine someone getting frustrated. >> bret: there is almost opera for the president speaking out about mueller for the first time and speaking out about the investigation. there was another president to did that. bill clinton. "new york times" ," february 9t, 1998. the white has broadened its attack today on ken starr, and defendant counsel investigating president clinton a former intern, calling mr. starr corrupt and demanding an independent investigation of suspected links to his office. a senior white house political advisor accused mr. starr of using the sweeping powers and a limited budget of his office to conduct a politically motivated witch hunt of the president and to intimidate witnesses into testifying against mr. clinton. >> i remember that very well. don't forget the best right-wing conspiracy. this is a tried a tried-and-true playbook. you are being investigated, you want to discredit the investigator. it is really similar to clinton
with one difference, which is bill clinton didn't go after the fbi. and the president has gone after the fbi. in his tweets, he talked about corruption and lying at the state department, department of justice, and the fbi. he really has gone after institutions here in a way that's different. >> i would say the big difference is the media treatment. a month after that "new york times" headline that you just read, "the new york times" headline was "white house is all out attack on starr is paying off." the media was much more friendly to bill clinton and they are to this one. >> the other point i would make is people are saying there was pressure from the president to fire mccabe before he got his retirement benefits or has pension. i think it is a very things point out. but if it is determined by the nonpartisan ig and the office a professional ability that this man leaked in an unauthorized way to the media and then lied about it, showed that person get a taxpayer-funded pension? that is a completely reasonable question to ask. >> bret: when we return, facebook under fire. ♪
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♪ >> it is really important for people to understand that this company misappropriated data of upwards of 50 million people from facebook. this data was used to create profiling algorithms that would allow us to explore mental vulnerabilities of people. >> we need to find out what we can about the misappropriation of the private information of tens of millions of americans. >> this is a big deal when you have that amount of data and the privacy violations. there are significant. >> bret: facebook under fire, whistle-blowers, you heard there, claiming the company failed to protect the personal data of up to 50 million people
in connection with cambridge analytica. this is this group that worked with the trump campaign. what about the story, where it's going? obviously it had facebook today, guy, and the stock dropped significantly. the implications today? >> i think it is not unusual or necessarily newsworthy that a campaign or some appendage of a campaign was using a lot of data to micro-target people. that has been going on for a very long time. online data, shopping data, that a sort of standard at this point in our politics. to me this is more a question of consent and if the data was properly obtained. there is a new "new york times" follow-up story this afternoon to the original blockbuster and this is what i think it is concerning. short quotes. "only about 270,000 users of for the million had consented to having their data harvested though they were all told it was being used for academic use, which was not true. to me, that is the red flag,
that means to be investigated. >> bret: we have seen this in previous campaigns, we have the obama person out on twitter saying that they did it, too, facebook kind of said, go ahead. >> i think one of the big questions is how do members of congress view facebook now. do they look at them as a giant publisher, the biggest publisher on the planet that is completely unregulated and need some regulation? do they view them as a pipeline for russian propaganda? i mean, this is getting to the point where i think you will have mark zuckerberg testifying in congress and you will have calls or regulation. >> bret: already calls for them to testify. the grassley -- kennedy corbett amy klobuchar asking him to take it up. >> when obama did this micro- micro-targeting in 2012, they were celebrating. facebook said they broker their safeguards but they were okay with it, telling the obama campaign, make sure you knock it off after november. this is not a huge story that the this is happening.
i'm worried about the free-speech applications. on the right, you have people that feel that facebook and google on these new media giants are embedded with democrats and on the left, you've seen the deterioration of support for free speech. i think there is this opening with these to go after these cs that might be going against the founding principles. >> bret: the black cat now. is there a first amendment issue? >> what does that mean in this case. what control do you have over your data? most people figure the minute they are on the internet, they have no privacy at all. i am not on facebook, i'm probably the only person on the planet who is not on it. it doesn't sound like you have much privacy. >> i think that my part of the problem is that people don't think through how they are the product on facebook, they are the thing that's being bought and sold. people need to think about that much more carefully. also i think that a lot of our publishing platforms and all of these companies need to think a lot more about how fair they are being given this responsibility to happen when you are shutting down speech and when you are shutting down conservatives and mostly exclusively
conservatives, that is going to cause a problem for civil discord. >> politically, it's interesting that you have these big tech companies that are culturally much more on the left and taking sides in the culture wars kicking up a lot of republicans in washington, d.c. then you have the regulatory happy democrats in washington, d.c., who are concerned about russia and other things. you might find these big tech companies all of a sudden with very few friends on capitol hill, pushing back against the notion of let's regulate. i'm concerned about more regulation. i don't know that that's necessarily the direction we are headed. they have set themselves up for the situation. it's been what i want to clean up one thing from the last panel about the mccabe pension. it's not going away. >> he still get the vast majority of his pension. it will be affected just slightly. he want to gain access to it at the age of 50 but it will be a little bit of a delay. if people were thinking that he would lose his pension, he doesn't actually lose edge. speak about as a justification? , i'm sure he has had a wonderful career, he's done a
lot of great things. but if he did something illegal and then lied about it to investigators, why should he keep his pension? >> bret: okay. wanted to clean it up. when we come back, a different kind of military news. ♪ ♪ next chapter ♪ . you tell your insurance company they made a mistake. the check they sent isn't enough to replace your totaled new car. the guy says they didn't make the mistake. you made the mistake. i beg your pardon? he says, you should have chosen full-car replacement. excuse me? let me be frank, he says: you picked the wrong insurance plan. 'no. i picked the wrong insurance company.'
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pretty bret finally tonight a reunion for afghanistan veteran and men's best friend. first met apollo when the dog showed up on the campground where he was working with afghan soldiers. this dog was thin and in fear of being put down. he want to the take apollo with him, an organization called puppy rescue mission helped make that happen and raised $5,000 to bring the dog all the way from afghanistan to arizona. >> he had a flight from afghanistan all the way to turkey then from turkey to d.c. and then from d.c. to here. so he had a long travel period. it's amazing to have him back home. >> bret: great story. thanks for your service. thank you for inviting us
into your home tonight. that's it for this "special report," fair, balanced and unafraid. "the story" hosted by martha maccallum starts right now. martha? >> martha: hi there, bret. thanks so much. breaking tonight in austin, texas, a bomber is terrorizing that city. >> the profile from quantico are interested in talking to the bomber. we have agents here from all different kinds of squads. anxious to talk to him to try to understand why is he doing this? >> martha: so the austin police now believe that a serial bomber is loose in the texas capital after a fourth package bomb has now exploded shattering their sense of safety there good evening, everybody, i'm martha maccallum and this the story. we have followed all the breaking developments from austin. we now know that the 8:30 bombing that went off was activated by a trip wire the size of fishing line they show it shows a much higher level 6 so he physician at