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we seem one election away from solving the big problems. we'll find the can and get back to you. thank you for inviting us in your home. that is it for this special report. "the story with martha" starts now. >> martha: thanks, bret. we begin with a fox news alert. we are awaiting a news conference that we'll get any moment in austin at the austin police headquarters. we do hope we will get some answers to the countless questions tonight about this 23-year-old man from a "good, christian family" whose friends and loved ones apparently never noticed anything amiss. while he was quietly building a bomb room inside his house. and then sending explosives to innocent victims in boxes marked kelly killmore. it ended this morning. he blew himself up in a ditch on the side of i-35. tonight the f.b.i. is determined to get answers.
>> primarily one room that has a considerable amount of material. >> is it safe to assume whoever lived in that house had to known what with us going on and what was being built in that room? >> again, that is a difficult question to answer. to know what people knew. >> martha: what was going on here? neighbors say he was smart and polite. his grandmother called him a peaceful, deep thinker. the aunt saying that is not the young man she knew. >> he was a great kid. he was smart. he was loving. he was kind. i have no idea who this person is. >> martha: wow! trace gallagher joins us now in the west coast newsroom with what we have learned today about the young man. trace? >> martha, in the minutes leading up to his final moments investigators say the bomber mark anthony conditt made a key mistake turning on the cell phone and allowing the police to track him to a hotel 20 minutes outside of austin. s.w.a.t. team surrounded the hotel and called for help but
conditt drove away before the units arrived. miles down the road the suspect pulled off the highway and into a ditch. watch. >> as members of the austin police department s.w.a.t. team approached the vehicle, the suspect detonated a bomb inside the vehicle. knocking one of our s.w.a.t. officers back and one of our s.w.a.t. officers fired at the suspect as well. >> but police say the detonation is apparently what called him. we now know that closing in on the killer was a feat of forensic technology. well before the police identified conditt as the bomber, authorities whittled the suspect pool using cell phone site analysis. the process of listing individuals who were in the areas of the bombing when they exploded. then there were the bombs themselves which reportedly used exotic batteries from asia ordered online. a signature trait that allowed investigators to link the various explosives to the same buyer. the final piece of the puzzle
appears to be surveillance video showing conditt wearing a blonde wig and gloves, taking packages to a fedex store outside of austin on sunday. in a brutal play on words there were reports that conditt addressed one of the bombs using the name "kelly killmore." now it's all about finding a motive. listen. >> i think there is a treasure trove of information in his house as well as the digital information that should shed light more upon who he is, what he was doing and why he was doing it. >> part of the digital information governor abbott is talking sabt the blog condit wrote for a government class in 2012 where he says he thinks he conservative and opposes gay marriage. he also would about al-qaeda terrorist saying he should get a life sentence twice over. the death penalty he writes "living criminals harm and murder again. executed ones do not.
inside the home they found a bomb room filled with a, "considerable amount of the home made explosive material consistent with the other devices." his two roommates have been questioned about what they knew or what they suspected. martha? >> thank you very much. >> here now texas congressman, mike mccaul that represents austin and good to see you tonight, chairman. your thoughts on all that transpired in this case today in your hometown? >> this individual terrorized my hometown for almost a month. now the nightmare is over. now it's time to heal. i have been working closely with the f.b.i., a.t.f. and the local police chief on this matter. i'm glad that we have justice in this case for closure for the victims and their families but there are still many remaining unanswered yeses. especially why? most people are asking why did
this happen? >> martha: terms of the effort to track him down and we are learning so much tonight about the cell phone, site gathering information that they had, tracking the batteries online. really it sounds like some really extraordinary police work. >> i think yeah. i have seen a lot of the cases. you and i talked about the bopston bombing way back -- boston bombing way back when. it didn't work well in that case. this is one of the best law enforcement i have seen at the federal state local level. this asian battery was in all the devices. that is how we knew it was the same bomber attached to the bombs. in addition we had good technology that leaves digital footprints wherever you go with the phone such as that we were able to track the bomber. the final fatal mistake he made was to walk in to the fedex office where we got surveillance video of him. he walked out, got in a red mazda truck which we had leads previously had been at the scene of other bombing sites. we got the license plate tag.
when he turned on his phone we got a ping and we knew that is where he was. that is when the s.w.a.t. team descended on him. >> martha: any indication from what you are learning from the people you are talking to there on the ground in terms of motive? this blog, anything else that they might have found so far on his social media footprint? >> that is the unanswered question that everybody wants to know the answer to. they are conducting a sweep of the home, search of the home as i speak. they had to get the bomb making materials out of the house. they evacuated the area. they had robotics in. right now they are taking the hard drive of the computers. any social media will be valuable in this case to find out number one what was his mote sniff and number two, did he have accomplices like his roommates who have been detained for questioning? >> martha: big questions. any indication there are more boxes out there? >> the austin police department, i talked to the chief minutes ago. they are still urging as is
a.t.f., urging caution for the next couple of days while we can sweep the area. there were addresses found like a target list of the future possible targets. those homes have been sweeped and they were cleared but there is still a threat of the explosive devices out there in the austin area. >> martha: thank you very much, chairman mccaul, gold to see you. thank you. >> thank you. >> martha: go to the news conference to see what we can pick up in austin. >> significant attack that took place in the community over three weeks. anything that resulted in the occurrences last night where we took the suspect in this incident. i am going to address first the people we have with us. we have the honorable governor greg abbott. we are also joined by honorable mayor steve adler, the city of austin. we have the u.s. attorney for the western district, district attorney margaret moore. special agent in charge of the f.b.i. christopher combs.
special agent of a.f.t. and explosives. we have the deputy u.s. marshall and texas d.p.s. with other members of the executive teams from the law enforcement agencies. this community is well aware of the incidents that have taken place beginning on march 2. i will let you know as the police chief in austin taking on the daunting task of taking on the investigation in our community that has never seen something like this was made easy and possible by the assistance we got from the federal partners. we saw a level of federal participation from the a.t.f. and the f.b.i. that is unproduce doesn'ted -- unprecedd with the agents focused to bring peace back in the community. i want to focus on the additional information we have today based on the ongoing
investigation. i will say this is an ongoing. we have made the discovery of a recording where he talks about what he has done. i would classify this as a confession. this was on a phone that we found in his possession early this morning after we had the officer-involved shooting after he detonated the bomb he had with him. on the recording the suspect describes the six bombs that he constructed with a level of specificity that he identified the differences among those six bombs. they all had similarities with the components but there were differences between them and on the recording.
he identified what the differences were. everyone is interested in a motive and they want to know why this we can't put ration behind the acts but after listening to the recording he does not at all mention anything about terrorism, nor does he mention anything about hate. but instead this is the outcry of a very challenged young man talking about challenging in his personal life that led him to this point. based on what we heard on the recording he described the six devices and we have recovered the six devices. he also describes the seventh device. that being the one he had on him early this morning that he detonated as the officers approached causing the explosion and the ultimate officer-involved shooting that took place. we still want our community to remain vigilant as we always should given the day and time in which we live now. i also want to let the community know he described seven explosive devices.
we have identified and no longer in play the seven devices. so i think it is important we put that out and the community be aware. we want to remain vigilant but we have accounted for the devices we have known about. with that i am going to turn it over to the honorable governor greg abbott for comment. thank you. >> chief, thank you very much for what you shared and thank you very much for what you have done and demonstrated over the past few weeks. there is a phrase used sometimes very casually that sometimes turns out to be very poignant. that is sometimes people refer to the local police officers as "the finest." such as "austin's finest" when they talk about the austin police officers. this is demonstrative. why people say that. we saw in the situation austin's finest, austin's police officer galvanized and worked tirelessly together for
the past few weeks to solve one of the most heinous crimes in austin, texas, and in the process literally saving lives. importantly, they did so in a way that achieved maximum response by working so collaboratively with the law enforcement at every single level. this entire effort benefited tremendously by the overwhelming support that was provided to us here at the local level by the federal government at multiple areas of expertise. of course, the state of texas directed by steve mccraw and the texas department of public safety was proud to assist in the effort also. but candidly, in my time, 12 years as attorney general and three years as governor, i have not seen a better job than what we have seen from the police chief and the austin police force.
ensuring that they took every step they could. to locate and apprehend if possible alive the treacherous, evil criminal who committed these acts. and speaking for the chief as well as the members of the force, as well as the texas department of public safety as well as everybody involved in this, there was one motivated factor to ensure that we got up every day, if we ever went to sleep any night. that was to do everything we can to live up to the magnitude of the loss that was suffered. we can never forget the victims. they include anthony house. draylin mason. esteranza herrera. and two yet unidentified
victims. but what we don't know is how many more victims there would have been had it not been the courageous efforts of law enforcement combined. we will take away from this the importance of being able to respond quickly but also lessons learned to make sure that heinous, inexplicable bombing actions by a crazed mad man will be able to be minimized because of the way that law enforcement has been galvanized to ensure that we will keep the community safe. so chief, on behalf of everybody across the entire state of texas i want to say thank you for a job well done. for what you an your entire team has done. and today, we proudly back the
blue in austin, texas. i'm also proud of the man who is the lead chief executive for the city of austin. a pan who has shared -- a man who has shared the effort of responding to the challenge, maintaining peace in our community. and that is mayor adler, who is with us here today. mayor, i would like to toss it to you. >> governor, thank you. our collective thoughts and prayerses a a community -- >> martha: all right. this is the mayor. we'll keep monitoring this. we'll go back but i want to bring in former f.b.i. agent james fitzgerald, f.b.i. criminal profiler who played a critical role catching the unibomber ted kaczynski. big news from the news conference, jim. 25-minute recording that he made on his bone. obviously that is the manifesto and the explanation that everybody has been
looking for. we didn't learn a lot -- we learned what he didn't say. nothing about terrorism, nothing about hate. chief of police said that it was an outcry of a challenged young man that focused on his personal life. your thoughts? >> sure, martha. we have heard it before even with the school shooters or snipers. these people have individual, long-term problems, psychological issues. if they have access to a gun, they may use that. if they have access to bomb-making materials, they will utilize that. if it's driving a truck in a crowd, they will utilize that. the more i am hearing today about this guy, he is so fits description of a classic serial bomber or a serial sniper. cho at virginia tech sent off videotapes to a news network to explain why he did what he did. when we went inside kaczynski's cabin in montana in 1996, there were long autobiographies explaining every part of his bombs and how he did it and what i he
did it. a guy in utah and in illinois in 2006, he wrote letters on why he set off two bombs explaining how they were constructed. eric rudolph did the same thing with the army of god letter. it's like they are following a script one after another but it has to do with deep-rooted psychological issues they don't know how to manifest them in other ways. they have to clear people. >> martha: clearly he wants to indicate his intelligence in some way. all of them want to explain this how i did it and how i got away with it or how i crafted it. the chief talked about how he detailed each of the devices he made, the differences between each of the devices, which was also we hope helpful if he was truthful about the number of devices he built. >> yeah. let's hope it is that exact number. it sounds like there were other components in his room. that is no surprise. i have worked other serial
offender cases, they would have a big trunk in the basement under lock and key and no one could get in. i'm not getting defenses to the roommates. maybe they should have seen or said something but it's possible the items of death, components to make the bombs were somehow hidden within the room itself. perhaps under the lock and key. >> martha: i would expect that in the coming days, hours and days although we have heard him portrayed as quiet, polite. someone loved by his family that through social media, through the writings we are going to learn more about why he was described as challenged young man with a deep personal problem. >> well, as they say. still water runs deep. on the surface you may not notice something right away but a few inches, a few feet down there are lingering ongoing problems that only his tamly will know.
upon -- that only his family will know. upon undertaking a profiler in psychology, they are trying to do everything to get in to what influenced this guy. who guz he talk to? what tv shows, ma -- what does he read or watch online? these will paint a vivid picture of the guy. hopefully we have it in a few weeks or a month or two. >> martha: in the terms of the victims and the targets we did not learn a lot from the chief. if he is answering questions we'll go back. anthony house, draylin mason both killed by the bombs. esperanza. herrera, 75-year-old woman in critical condition and two other men on the bikes. in terms of whether or not he specifically targeted them, whether the address on the box, that is a big question still here. >> it is. we have to determine this down the line. i still say victimology in any
one of the cases will be important. they will have to look to any nexus or the connections between the people, the victim and the bomber himself. it wouldn't be surprising if there is a linkage. in fact, i think the bomber lived in the same town where mr. house used to live. the victim from march 2. so is there a connection there through that town? who knows? we may find this out before long. >> martha: james fitzgerald, thank you. good to talk to you tonight. >> thank you. >> martha: you bet. all right. so also breaking tonight, new speculation that the president may be prepared to fire a member of someone on his close national security team. for leaking to the "washington post" that president trump went against the national security adviser's advice. by congratulating vladimir putin on his re-election or he didn't follow the instructions or chose to ignore them. in the close environment, of those dealings with the
high-level discussions and questions, who would leak that information? that is one of the big questions tonight. chief national correspondent ed henry live at the white house with us on the developing story from there tonight. hi, ed. >> good to see you, martha. officials here making it clear the president is livid about this particular leak. he had already been complaining for over a year now about the so-called deep state. what he calls the obama holdovers from within the government. trying to undermine him. that could be the case here. on the other hand what is more worrisome for them is it could be a trump appointee trying to undermine him. they don't know which is why they are investigating. the chief of staff john kelly thought he weeded out the leakers after a series of recent exits our own john roberts is hearing that kelly is frustrate and disappointed because they still have at least one mole. they are particularly angry over how detailed the leak was about the call to the president. and vladimir putin. the "washington post" reporting the president ignored briefing materials that said in all caps "do not
congratulate putin." only a small number of senior aides have access to the note card. note cards that are printed outside the office and then passed to the president. they are probing which person along the chain leaked the material. one white house said this is not only fireable offense but it might be illegal. the president today sharply defended his decision to congratulate putin saying despite the differences he wants a cordial relationship so russia can help with isis, north korea, iran, syria and while former democratic cabinet official leon panetta says he believes the president should have been more aggressive about pressing putin in meddling of the 2016 election and the allegation that russia used nerve gas in the u.k., former clinton and obama administration seems to agree that the president needs to work with the adversaries. >> presidents talk to kings and emperors and tyrants
regardless of whether or not they were elected with any democratic process or not. so i think the president has a right to talk to putin. and to only see if there are areas that they can agree with. >> in fact, panetta's former boss president obama congratulated putin on his last election victory in 2012. there was no media storm. who can forget mr. obama caught on a hot mic in his own re-election in 2012 saying he would have more flexibility to deal with vat mir after he got -- slat mir after he got -- vladimir putin after he got re-elected. >> martha: thank you. ed henry at the white house. president trump defending himself against the backlash of the congratulations to vladimir putin on his election. here is senator rubio's take on the controversy last night. >> i would not, me personally would not have congratulated him. i thought it would be a mistake. he didn't win an election. all his opponents were in
jail. he picked people that ran against him. no way he would lose. >> martha: the president responded this way. a short while ago. he tweeted this -- >> martha: here now with his take on all of this and how we should treat the russian leader, jack keen. and fox news senior strategic analyst. good to see you tonight. >> good to see you, martha. >> martha: thank you for being here. first of all, the president's reaction. what do you make of his defense of his
congratulations? >> well, you know, i understand his defense. if i was one of his advisers i would have no problem with him reaching out to putin by i would not have used vehicle congratulating him on the election, which is a rigged farcical election to do that. i think the president's instincts are i wanted to reach out to putin with no liability assessed. i don't haven't to give him anything. just renew the relationship. i think his instincts about talking to putin are probably right. this national security team around him and the president has underscored the fact that they know full well that russia is trampling on u.s. and the allies' national interest in the middle east and europe. they are trying to break nay the in the transatlantic alliance and they see russia as an adversary, not just a competitor. that is the foundation. i think when it comes to the
president personally, martha, he is very aware that this guy putin has manipulated our three previous presidents quite successfully. i think our president is itching to get in the room with him and deal with him. he trusts his owning instinct and his own skills. i don't think for a minute talking to putin means appeasing the russians. we have had appeasing the russians by the president's preg said somewhere for eight years -- predecessor for eight years. i don't believe that will be the foundation. by he has confidence in the team to see if he can work something out. it is likely it will not happen in terms of something substantive and tangible where the world is going to change and it will be more stable result. but it is possible. i think we should give him the opportunity to try that. >> martha: i think every
president believes that they will be the president to change this dynamic. the jury is still out whether or not the president can do that. as you say, he has a lot of confidence in his own ability to negotiate. he feels that he can go in there and put up a strong front and deal with putin. we will see what takes place at the meeting. in the terms of you mentioned his national security team. everyone else put themselves in the room they handed him briefing rooms over the phone call and some done over the phone according to the report. it said, "do not congratulate putin" according to the "washington post" story in caps across one of the cards. your take on the fact we know about the story first of all. that is probably the primary question. they are angry about this at the white house. >> well, i'm assuming that trust in a "washington post" story is another matter in
itself. this is a fact early in the administration they had huge problems. something in the chief of staff, general kelly and i think if this is a fact that someone close to the president relessed this information, they have every right to be outraged by that. it's violating the trust of the president of the united states and separating yourself from the president because you may have a disagree with him. go some place else with your life. if you don't want to provide loyalty and service to the president. but you don't have a right once you make that decision to undermine the decision. i hope kelly can find the guy or gal.
fire them and put them in front of the prosecution. >> martha: thank you, sir. good to see you as always. >> good talking to you. >> martha: all right. as promised we are watching the news conference that is underway in austin when authorities begin to take questions from the reporters we'll take you there live. then, shocking. new video of the deadly self-driving uber car crashing into a pedestrian. this has just come in. what the human backup driver in the car was doing at that moment. plus facebook c.e.o. zuckerberg's defense for selling users for the political purposes but admits they have known about the problem for years but never got the data. so why is no one reporting that part of the story? karl rove and mark penn coming up. if you're 65 or older, you may be at increased risk for pneumococcal pneumonia that can take you out of the game for weeks,
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here is the footage inside the self-driving car. the human backup driver which they have in all the test vehicles is supposed to be able to take over if anything goes wrong is seen looking down throughout the beginning part of the tape. it also came out this week that the uber driver, the driver 44-year-old vasquez despite having been convicted felon served four years in prison for armed robbery is the person behind the wheel of the car. i think you just saw the reaction when they realized what had just happened is unbelievable. obviously. uber has a lot of reparations to do with this tragedy. all right. changing our tune here as we move forward on the story tonight. so while many are hyperventilating over the behavior bending abilities of facebook on unsuspecting americans the founder of the
social media behemoth that has enormous impact me me promised o protect your privacy. but is there another ange? is this whole thing part of a chapter to explain how donald trump could have possibly won the election? first facebook had to confess that they allowed $100,000 ad spend by the russians. now they are on bended knee for selling the data of 50 million facebook viewers and their friends. the outrage over that is justifiable. but the suggestion by some this must be how trump won the white house as the editorial in the "new york times" points out the liberal establishment fixation on the facebook 2016 sins. first transmission of fake news and now explaation of the data -- exploitation of the data by the trump campaign still feelings like an example
of blakeing something new because it's -- blaming something new because it's new when the old thing mattered more. they are referring to the old fashioned television and trump's come nation of -- domination of it. what is at stage? karl rove and mark penn, presidential polester. the author of the new book "micro trends: the small fors behind tomorrow's big changes." gentlemen, welcome. good to have you here. >> thank you. >> martha: your thoughts. carte, -- karl, start with you. on the big picture here, mea culpa and the thought on blaming this for the reason that trump was able to win? >> the digital campaign of hillary clinton and the trump campaign, donald trump, did have an impact on the outcome of the election. no ifs, andser -- ands or
buts. but even if the trump campaign did a better job of targeting my sense the impact of the campaign relative weight of the advertising was probably distinctively in favor of hillary clinton. but message matters. at the end of the day, donald trump message in all form of media, personal appearance, cable tv, print, mail, volunteers, digital campaign is i am a candidate of change in a year of which 62% of the american people thought the country was seriously on the wrong track. we have a problem with facebook. facebook has a problem with cambridge analytica who may have or it looks like may have illegally used a huge trove of data from facebook. but let's be honest what drove the election was a message of change. represented in everything that trump did. versus message of keep going just like we are doing and i'm
entitled to it which was hillary clinton's message. >> martha: mark, what is your take on it? >> i think the election was a fight between old economy voters and silicon valley voters. silicon valley has done very well in the last few years and the old economy hadn't done well. i think they spoke up. i don't think the things with facebook really played an important factor in the election. i think facebook has a problem. it's a real image problem with the users. that they are going to have to address. facebook does this, they find the like for like and that is what they normally do. they have a data problem. they have to fix the data problem. but let's remember this is precisely what facebook itself does for users. >> martha: so in terms of facebook and their responsibility because there is a political side of which you address and the facebook side of this. as humans in 2018, every time
we buy something we give over our information. don't we give up the contract in some ways to the privacy? i mean, to catch phrase that people say all the time. there is no such thing as real privacy in this world anymore. >> right. well, that is why one three things that zuckerberg talked about today is important. two things were less important. he says we will go back to all the apps that were in place before 2014. who might have collected the data before to put the new policies in place that would have stopped this thing. we'll go back and look at the apps and do an audit. have people sign agreement they destroyed data and so forth. but the most important thing he said today was the number three point on his mea culpa is facebook will develop a tool to allow every one of the users to say nobody can use my information. that they can deny apps the access to all the ancillary
information including their contact lists and all the preferences and the likes and so forth. all the material uses and develop a profile individual, facebook user and people they are associated with. that tool will be at the top of the facebook page. they say they will allow facebook people to make the decision. >> martha: start from scratch, though, to put back in the bottle everything out there. i'm sorry. short on time because of what was going on in austin. thank you both. we'll have you back. thank you. good to see you both. >> thank you. >> martha: coming up next, the former dnc chairwoman donna brazille is back and crying foul over president trump's war on federal employees as she puts it. like fired f.b.i. director andrew mccabe. >> i think there has been a lot of gratuitous attacks on the federal employees. >> martha: is that true? juan williams joins me on that and the battle for the soul of the democratic party next.
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>> martha: so fox news alert. finally new congressman in pennsylvania district 18. after more than a week after the vote, rick saccone conceded his special election loss to conor lamb. lamb tweeting just got off the phone with my opponent, saccone congratulated me and conceded last tuesday's election. i congratulate him for a hard-fought race and wish him the best. meanwhile in illinois, one of the last remaining pro life blue dog democrats eked out a win against his progressive democratic challenger who had been backed by sanders and gillibrand. i asked brazille because if there are any democrats getting backing going forward. >> we have a big tent party. we have pro-life democrats and democrats respecting a woman's right to choose. we believe every american should have access to the range of reproductive health services so whether you a pro
life or pro choice our party allows about everybody to come in the door and to run in our primary contest. >> martha: now juan williams co-host of "the five" and fox news political analyst is here to react to what donna brazille said last night. interesting question about where the party is going. you have a pro life democrats. >> this is interesting. susan b. anthony people normally support republicans and people pro life came in to support the democrat. you go back in time, martha, to people like bob casey, the former governor of pennsylvania did not feel welcome in the party. so many women groups saying for us a woman's right to choose is a basic items, like a list on the democratic party side. so his victory last night stands out as an exception. i don't think it is the rule going forward. >> martha: interesting. listen to this.
because we were talking about hillary clinton and the comment she made recently about women voters. here is a bit of the interview she did in the netherlands that i asked donna brazille about. >> this is a question that hillary clinton was asked about ivanka trump. play it for you and get your reaction. >> apparently ivanka trump wants to be first female president of the united states. >> that won't happen. >> why not? >> we don't want any more inexperienced trumps in the white house. fool me once shame on you. fool me twice, shame on me. i think the american people have seen what happens when a reality tv candidate wins. >> what is your reaction to that, donna? >> well, laughing at the whole nature of the question. look, i want to see a female president. i wish it was hillary clinton. i voted for her in the general election in 2016. i hope that we can as a
country one day look at the wonderful remarkable talent we have in the country. there are so many qualified women to run. i hope one day we are able, hopefully as soon as 2020. we don't know. but maybe soon we will see a female president. >> martha: it is interesting to me because there is always all this talk on the democratic side of wanting a female president. only a democrat female president. i think people vote on policy and economics. as a woman you want the freedom to vote for whoever you want. even if it's hillary clinton said a it lot of women fall in a trap of voting for who their husband tells them to vote for, which is really reprehensible. >> two things to say here. one, we have at a critical moment in the culture in terms of women and how they vote and the politics. obviously, #metoo donald trump and all the charges and the counter charges create a lot of cultural static.
so you have at this moment a lot of women who may have trouble with trump about his controversies. we have seen especially white suburban women play a key role in the conor lamb victory cemented today and in the virginia gubernatorial race won by northrup and in alabama the doug jones victory there. that is a real difference. i could be a game changer if you get women, white suburban women to vote that way. that helped donald trump in pennsylvania. >> martha: is that why you have so many democrats distancing themselves from hillary clinton comments? >> big-time. >> martha: identity politics here. she is saying one of the reasons i didn't win is because i'm a woman. people still hold grudges. hello! i don't think it has anything to do with why she didn't win. >> i think -- well, i don't know about that. comey comes out ten days before, you do see a shift. >> that may be a factor but not because she is a woman.
>> no. >> martha: she is falling back on that. >> no. she is saying women, husbands and brothers and sons may have influenced the white suburban women. she has to understand power and the changing taking place. more women doing what martha maccallum does every night. >> martha: that is ironic because she leads the charge her career. >> mccaskill saying i disagree. >> if they want to win over the suburban trump voters give them credit for vote the way they want to. karl, thank you -- "karl." >> i think i'm better looking than karl. >> you have so much better looking than karl. thank you, juan. good to see you. so next, more potential hillary clinton hypocrisy claiming that trump is using the oval office to benefit
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her book "what happened." and given the fact that in january federal prosecutors opened a probe in to pay for play accusations of the clinton foundation, the recent criticism of the current president, to get some attention. >> he has undermined the office and used it to enrism himself and his family, disregarding laws,ket call standards. he has crossed into aer thetary of behavior territory of behavior and actions unpredictable, erratic that are undermining the the stability of the global order. so clintons made $240 million, much from the foreign countries since 2001. peter exposed the source of the money in "clinton cash" and now he is back with a new book to expose how other political families enriched
themselves over the years. it's fascinating. so first after all, hillary clinton claiming that the trump folks have enriched themselves at the behest of government. >> it's amazing to have hillary clinton lecture someone on ethical standards when it comes to the issues. but look, it is hard to know. if you look at trump's family you can probably make a case they have lost money going into public service. there are people that don't like him politically and boycotting him. there are restraints on the behavior. i don't think there is clear evidence of self-enrichment taking place. look at this after four years or eight years to see what the case is. i don't think you can make it at all. you have the conflict of interest and the blurring of lines to worry about but i don't see any clear-cut evidence that has happened. >> martha: what you are so good is following the money essentially. now the new book secret empires profiles the carey family, the biden family and the mcconnell family. so, starting with kerry and
biden, explain what you found in business connection, china and the government positions. >> it's interesting because there is a critical period from 2013 to 2016 in the obama administration where the u.s. is engaging with china on the south china sea on the military challenges, on trade and intellectual property. joe biden in december of 2013 flies to beijing in air force 2 with him on the plane is his son hunter biden. joe biden gets widely criticized for going soft on beijing. ten days after they return, his son hunter biden scores a private equity deal for $1 billion. $1 billion with a "b." it is important to know hunter biden has no background in private equity. he has not done business in china before. he and a guy named devin archer, a close kerry family aide start doing deals in
china. there are other deals with them in china worth billions of dollars. the argument they are going to try to make it had no influence over policy. which to me is ludicrous. anytime you engage in commercial ventures with someone, if we worry about $10,000 p.a.c. contribution ininfluenceing a politician we should be concerned about the billion dollar private equity deals going to kids of politicians. >> martha: then there were deals with the defense companies in china at the same time accused of stealing technology from us. >> that is right. so they get the money from the chinese. this billion dollars plus. chinese government money. they take the government money and invest in the other chinese companies or u.s. companies. one of those is a company called c.g.n., china general nuclear. their anchor investor. son of the vice president and archer a close aid to kerry.
senior executives are arrested for stealing nuclear secrets in the united states. one of the engineers pleads guilty and they are trying to get access to reactors that are on submarines. this has serious national security implications and the new gross area of corruption. old days of the politicians stuffing $90,000 in the freezer has been replaced by billion-dollar private equity deals for your family that is a lot harder to detect and find. >> martha: what about mitch mcconnell? >> similar. china. china has adopted the posture of saying they will seek out commercial family members. elaine chow's family is in the shipping business. the china state shipping corporation set them up. they build the ships. they finance construction of the ships and provide chron tractors for the -- contracts to ship them around. the father, patriarch of the
family gave the gift of mcconnell of $5 to $25 million. >> martha: out of time. wish we had more. good to see you. >> thank you. >> martha: that is story. see you tomorrow night. tucker carlson is up next. ♪ >> tucker: good evening. welcome to tucker carlson tonight. austin bomber is dead after killing himself with one of his own devices. who was he? we will show everything we know ahead. details are coming in. first, longer-term story and maybe her profound. law and order breaking down in california. the mayor of locate and warned illegal immigrants ahead of a planned federal raid to allow them to flee. now three of those who did flee, all mexican nationals were arrested for newly committed crimes, robbery, d.u.i. and spousal abuse.