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that. >> now i want some pie. you probably do too. chris wallace doesn't have pie coming up but great interviews on "fox news sunday". we will see you next weekend. >>chris: i am chris wallace. students march on washington and cities across the country. against gun violence. >> today we take to the streets in over 800 markets around the globe and demand common sense gun laws. >> this ismore than just a march, more than just one day, one event . >> fight for your lives before it someone else's charm. >>chris: hundreds of thousands participated in the "march for our lives", we will talk with two of the leading organizers. from marjory stoneman douglas high school. students delaney tarr and cameron kasky. what's the school shooting generations message for lawmakers? the markets are on edge
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after the president launches a tariffcrackdown on china. we will discuss the potential for global trade war with steven mnuchin . it's a "fox news sunday" exclusive. plus, rex tillerson and mcmaster out. mike pompeo and john bolton in. we will ask our sunday panel about the presidents moved to the right on national security and get the latest on the rush investigation after the president's top lawyer quits. our top power player of the week. we meet the pence family's pet bunny. the subject of a new children's book. alright now on "fox news sunday". hello again from fox news in washington. 39 days, that's how long it was from the school massacre in parkland, florida to marches this weekend on washington and more than 800 cities across the nation. here's another number, 187,000.
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the "washington post" says since columbine in 1999, that's how many elementary and high school students have experienced a shooting on their campus during school hours. the scene on the national mall yesterday felt like protests against the vietnam war. organized by survivors of the shooting that killed 17 at marjory stoneman douglas high school, the rally was led by students and roll in emotion. speakers challenged the nation's leaders to act.in a moment, we will speak with cameron kasky and delaney tarr. two of the leading voices of the movement. but first, peter doocy reports from the march. >> camejamie guttenberg and - - reporter: 26 seconds. that's how long emma student silence. >> never again! >>reporter: "march for our
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lives" spread to new york, boston, chicago and parkland, florida where student started this campaign for gun-control. >> we are forced to become adults and targeted as adults. we to do this for them. >>reporter: the trump administration's proposed bump stock band and background check improvements signed friday don't go far enough for students like delaney tarr. >> the pressure is on for every person in power because they know what's coming. >>reporter: lin manuel miranda, ariana grande and miley cyrus were among the celebrity sharing the stage with students saturday. president trump was in mar-a-lago this weekend but a white white house spokesperson applauded their first amendment right. as for the nra, no response
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during the rallies. even though a high percentage of protest signs were aimed at them. >> to all the politicians out there, if you take money from the nra, you have chosen - -! >>reporter: thousands who couldn't get close enough to the stage stood around for hours anyway supporting a course that inspired many young protesters to attend a political rally for the first time in their lives. >>chris: now to just release fox news polls that show strong support for tougher controls. by a 13 point margin, but a protecting against gun violence is more important than protecting gun rights. there is broad support for measures to reduce gun violence. universal background in mental health checks. raising the legal age to buy rifles to 21 point putting armed guards in school and banning assault weapons. the poll also finds widespread doubt congress will act. while 38 percent say it's extremely important for congress to pass gun legislation this year, only
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seven percent think that's extremely likely to happen. joining me now, two students from parkland, florida were key organizers of yesterday to marches. cameron kasky antennae. welcome back to "fox news sunday". >> that you for having us. >>chris: it was a remarkable event. hundreds of thousands of people marching on washington and cities around the country. in practical terms, would you think you accomplished? >> i think the best thing to come out of the march was the fact that while it was important to stand for what we believe in, that people come together on this unified front. i think the fact that young people everywhere were taking initiatives, standing up and leading in their communities showed that we learned our voices matter. so many people came and register to vote. so many people discussed voting. if you look at the photo turnout for our age, it's embarrassing.
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so the fact that this movement has so many people realizing it's important to get to the polls is what i think one of the best things we accomplished. >>chris: i want to pick up on that point which is young people traditionally do not register and vote. take a look at these numbers. in the last midterm election in 2014, 19.9 percent voted. that was the lowest rate of youth turnout in the last 40 years. delaney, what makes you think that 2018 is going to be any different? i understand the rally is exciting but we are talking about more than seven months from now. are people going to go out and are they actually going to vote and how to keep this movement going? >> i think the strongest thing we have going for us is this is a led by the use and is for the use. if we can encourage these people to take action, to be participating in our society and our politics, that's going to encourage voters to turnout. that's what i think will
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continue the movement. even when the media leads, these people are still fighting for their own lives. >>chris: let's talk about the government response. since the terrible shooting at your high school. in the big spending bill, the president just signed a tie in the background check system and allocate $2.3 billion for school safety. the justice department says it will be an bump stocks. your state of florida raise the age from 18 to 21. imposes a three day waiting period. makes it easier to take us away from people considered a danger. fans bump stocks and provide $400 million for school safety. cameron, what grade do you give the state and the federal response? >> estate i will give a very crisp and c-. those things they pass are very important. raising the age to 21 is something the majority of the country can get behind. the three day waiting period, these are great steps in the right direction. as for the country, the federal
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level, i was not impressed at all. because it's important to make the schools safer but this doesn't just happen in schools. night clubs, churches, movie theaters, airports. yes it's important to start school shootings but this does very little to keep the american people out of gunfire. >>chris: what you want to see? >> and assault weapons ban. everybody point each has to be raised to 21. these are things that are, these are important issues. the fact that nobody, in the bill, they don't see the word god wants. what causes all the shootings? there's no specific mental health problem that makes all these shootings happen, it's the weapon. the fact that they are taking action is proof we need to keep going. >>chris: right after parkland, president trump talked tough
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about these issues. he talked about taking guns away from people who have basically - - are, have been seen as a threat. he talked about raising the age to buy a semi automatic, take a look at what the president had to say. >> take the guns first, go through due process second. you can't buy a handgun at 18. yet the way until you're 21. but the one used in this horrible shooting at 18. >>chris: what do you think happened? >> i'm glad he said those words because those are things we would like to see however, i would not see any action to follow through. >>chris: why is it you think the rhetoric ended and he backed off a lot of the more extreme steps were stronger steps? >> had a meeting with the nra after that and suddenly he backed down.>>chris: is that what you think it is? >> to call it a coincidence seems a bit of a stretch. to say all these incredibly
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circumstances and then to immediately backpedal on them after having a meeting with the nra. now long time period after that, seems sketchy to me. >>chris: the - - says you really want to takea away people's guns. he is one of your students talking during the march yesterday. >> they truly don't know what they are marching for. they think they're marching to and school violence but in reality, the "march for our lives" has enlisted they want to ban assault rifles. >>chris: how do you respond to kyle? >> first of all we are not just marching to and school violence. we are marching to and violence all over the country. second of all, we are not
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trying to take people's guns away. i father's a reserve police officer and we have guns in the house. the point is, we're not trying to take everyone's guns away. the nra wants people to think that. they are fear mongers. they want to sell weapons by exploiting people's fears. when we want to put regulations, they tell people we want to steal everyone's guns. the majority of the people see past this. >>chris: will draw the line in terms of limiting guns. would it just be assault weapons? >> i think so weapons need to be banned. smaller weapons used for production of your homes can be sold but there needs to be more restrictions. mental health check, you need to be 21. these are common sense. getting a handgun to protect your home is an important thing if you need to. it can't be that easy. >>chris: we had a school shooting as you know here in maryland last week where a student went into the school and killed his former girlfriend. but he was stopped and died, we are not sure whether he killed
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himself whether he was shot by a sheriff deputy at the school who confronted him. a host on nra tv talked about that deputy. >> to all the kids from parkland getting ready to use your first amendment to attack everyone second memo at your march. i wish i deputy like - - was at your school. >>chris: your reaction to that and the nra argument which is the best way to stop a bad person is a good guy with a gun. >> first of all, our school is marjory stoneman douglas high school. also i'm glad that sheriff had a gun because he is a person who should have a gun. but a teacher? a teacher does not need a weapon like that. a teacher's job is to educate, not to defend.
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the narrative they are pushing, a good guy with a gun. what do they define as a good guy with a gun because i would define it as aprofessional. not filling our classrooms with weapons. >>chris: what is the application was that nobody would know your name . that this is an ego trip. >> i think that's the most pathetic thing i have seen out of this.possibly even be in crisis actors. they can't attack our argument so they are attacking us personally. to say that we just want people to know our names, they have no idea how much we would give for it to be february 13 again. the fact that they stoop that low. i can imagine how much lower they can get. >>chris: want to end this on a personal note because this has been a whirlwind 39 days. i suspect in some way, that organizing that the media attention and all that was a way to get through these 39 days after the shock.
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now the cameras will go away. first of all, how are you doing and secondly, do you look at going back to being high school students as something you will be able to do? >> even through all of the negativity we've seen. there's an overwhelming amount of support and positivity and that's what keeps us going. to know so many people stand with us. even once the chemicals away, that doesn't mean our job is done. that does and we go back to our high school lies because that's forever changed. that is not a possibility anymore. even though our lives have changed, we take it in stride as we will continue working on this. >>chris: cameron?>> it's been a but the people i've been working directly with. my peers, that's how we've gone through this.we've been supporting each other. smiling through the pain together. the fact that we will still have each other, we still have the stillman douglas community, it shouldn't be too hard to
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like everything's okay soon. >>chris: cameron, delaney, thank you both. thanks for taking time out of his busy weekend. we see where the movement goes from here and think everything. up next, we will bring in our sunday group to discuss whether the student movement on the control will have an impact on the midterm elections and beyond.
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>> when politics say your voice doesn't matter because the nra owns them, we no more! >>chris: student organizers of "march for our lives" calling for action in the wake of last month's shooting in florida. it's time now for our sunday group. former speaker of the house newt gingrich. juan williams, julie pace
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washington bureau chief for the associated press and former campaign senior advisor, jason miller. some people are comparing what we saw yesterday to the civil rights movement. to the marches against the vietnam war as a historian, do you see parallels? >> i think it would be fascinating to know who paid for it all? the left has this wonderful ability to mobilize. the day after the inaugural, you have the women's march. people come in buses. who paid for the buses? who brought the entertainers? the left can't govern but they can short demonstrate. >>chris: respectfully, why does it matter paid for it? >> because you'd like to know how does somebody build again and again on ability to demonstrate? i think it's useful to know that. it's part of the political process. >>chris: juan? >> i couldn't disagree more. i think the key point is you saw people turnout in
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astounding numbers. but it's led to which is obviously, we not only saw the events in parkland about a month ago mr. speaker, we've been through combine just coming up on its 20th anniversary, virginia tech. so we know there's a problem with gun violence in schools. i think it came as an expression of genuine concern about our country. and for their lives. to see these young people turnout and these numbers. if folks help them organize, i don't think that is somehow to discount the sincerity of their feelings. >> i don't discount the sincerity. i just said it's an interesting phenomenon that the left great ability is to organize. whether it's the day after the inauguration. let's talk about guns for a second. i adamantly favored having armed guards in school. i think you would radically reduce the danger we just saw. i'm willing to have a debate
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about guns. there are five cities in america that most of the killings in america, all five theoretically have gun control. all five cities are a disaster. by the way, those are almost handguns. >> i don't think that is specific in terms of this march was sparked by what happened in parkland, florida. >>chris: let me bring the other two in. you and i are old enough that we were around for the marches in the 60s. the civil rights marches. vietnam marches. you wrote a great book on the civil rights movement. what parallels do you see and do you think these activists can accomplish what they did? >> i can tell you the speed i don't make predictions but i do see a clear parallel. just before easter 1963, doctor king had young people, people without mortgages. able to go out in the street and take that risk. when the nation saw that, southeastern people up against
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- - and the arrests, the country became galvanized. they thought, these are children in distress. arguments about be patient. take your time. suddenly, all of those people who were on the line suddenly said, this is a matter of conscience to see children in distress and we now want change in terms of civil rights. same thing with vietnam. same thing interestingly with the suffrage movement. young people took the lead so this could be a preview. >>chris: the conventional wisdom, like the student said, are they going to get out registered to vote and put like-minded people into positions of power. the conventional wisdom is that gun rights activists tend to vote more on this single issue than gun-control activists. what i want to put up this gallup poll, 30 percent of gun owners say they will only vote for a candidate who shares their views on gun control. but, so do 20 percent of people
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who don't own guns. jason, gallup says we overestimate the power of the gun rights lobby. >> i think that obviously second amendment supporters are very important. going back to the speaker! as well, we have to look at where the money is going. yet the students marching yesterday. the celebrities that were there. what people haven't been talking about near as much of the gun-control groups was there have been articles talking about the record fundraising. i think one of the groups or a 30 percent increase. this november with the midterm elections. that's what everyone seems to be missing. these have a lot more funding and they will try to turn people out. this nothing missing as far as the paradigm here with this entire debate.don't just look to the future, look at what just happened. the best one of the parkland students would you referenced has already worked with senators hatch, rubio and murphy to test the start school
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violence act. these students are already getting it done before we even get into the radical left groups to try to influence the elections this fall. >>chris: julie, what do your sources at the white house say? how worried are they about the really tough gun-control advocates that they will be able to mobilize people to go out and vote and the impact it could have in the midterms and beyond in 2020? >> i don't get the sense they are particularly worried about that piece right now. i think they are worried broadly about what we've seen over the last several months which is a groundswell of enthusiasm on the left among democrats in marches. the big thing they are looking for is cannot be translated into votes. that's what this always comes down to. regardless of whose funding it. if you have hundreds of
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thousands of people on the streets, it doesn't always translate into registration. it is always show up in young people turning out to the polls. >>chris: is that something they are concerned about or something they are skeptical and think probably isn't going? >> most people say that the enthusiasm on the left is real. it is not a flash in the pan from president trump's election. that it has been sustained. what they are unsure about is the idea of that turning into electoral victories for democrats. think that's still an open question on both sides. >>chris: final thoughts, speaker? >> nothing would make mitch mcconnell stay more than the democrats insist on bringing up a strong gun-control bill because in north dakota, montana, missouri, down the list, every vulnerable democrat - - >>chris: were talking about democrats running for the election facts at least eight of the states. >> they would commit political suicide. >> rick scott, a republican took on the nra and passed
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gun-control measures. i think that's a sign of a political potency for people who aren't necessary on the left. but also independent and republican. >>chris: we have to take a break here. when we come back, steven mnuchin on the escalating trade rift between the u.s. and china. what does it mean for the economy and jobs in the stock market? that's next. last years' ad campaign
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the economy has had choppy waters with the announcement of stiff tariffs, threats of a trade warmth and stomach turning drops in the stock market. joining me now to discuss it all is treasury secretary steven mnuchin. welcome back to "fox news sunday". >> great to be with you. >>chris: u.s. stocks had their worst week in two years. the dow jones fell more than 1400 points. a 5.7 percent drop. what's going on and how long will it last? >> there's a lot of different things impacting the stock market. but i think the most important thing to focus on is the market will go up and down in the short-term. the real important issue is where will it be longer-term. the market is still up since the election and we are confident as we continue on our
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economic plan that will translate into the market doing better. >>chris: to talk about why it is dropping right now, 1100 points of that truck came thursday and friday after president trump announced he will impose tariffs on $60 billion of chinese exports. are there markets want to react so negatively to the presidents tariffs? >> i've never thought the markets are going tonecessarily efficient. as it relates to the tariffs, their sleep in three parts of our economic plan. we've been very consistent since day one. tax reform, regulatory relief and trade. now we are executing on the third part of our plan. i don't think anybody should be surprised. this is a president that absolutely believed in free trade but once free and fair trade. and has been very clear since our first meeting at mar-a-lago with president -xi xi jinping .
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>>chris: are the markets want to be afraid of the presidents tariffs and the impact it will have on the economy? >> i don't expect to see a big impact on the economy. we've been very careful in what we are doing. i think what we are doing is long-term, very good for the economy. which is pressing for free and fair trade. to the extent that china is willing to open up their markets which they are making the right directions on. if they open up their markets, it's an enormous opportunity for u.s. companies. >>chris: of course the fear is that's not going to be the way they respond. the fear is the response to the tariffs is a trade war with china and the day after the president announced his tariffs, china announced plans to impose its own tariffs on $3 billion on u.s. export and the
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possibility of billions of dollars more in u.s. exports whether it's soybeans or boeing jets. i know you spoke with the chinese vice premier yesterday. what according to the chinese news agency said that china is prepared to defend its interests.do you really believe beijing will blank? >> it's not a question of blinking. we been clear on what we want and they understand that. president xi jinping has acknowledged that our objective is to reduce the trade deficit. we're not afraid of a trade war but that's not our objective. i have had productive conversations with the vice premier. he came to washington. we've communicated several times since then. we had a discussion the other night. i think we are working on a pathway to see if we can reach an agreement as to what their trade is for them to open up their markets, reduce their tariffs, stop forced technology
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transfer. these are all the things we want to do. and in negotiation, you have to be prepared to take action and that's what president trump is doing. >>chris: i just want to make i'm clear because the president announced $60 billion in tariffs. the chinese talked about 3 billion and the possibility of more. as i say, the feisty mayor talked about defending beijing's interest. are you suggesting that none of this will happen? that you will be able to afford it and none of these tariffs go into effect? >> we are going to proceed with our tariffs. we are also working on investment restrictions.you simultaneously having negotiations with the chinese see we can reach an agreement. as the president has said, we want to cut the trade deficit 100 billion over the next year. we want to eliminate forced ventures and we are having productive conversations with them.i am cautiously hopeful we reach an agreement but if not, we are proceeding with these tariffs. we're not putting them on hold
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unless we have an acceptable agreement that the president signs off on. >>chris: earlier this month, the president announced different tariffs on aluminum and steel imports into this country. one of his top advisers on trade, peter navarro was on this program after they were announced and he said this was going to be a global imposition of tariffs on every nation that sends metals to this country. take a look. >> as initial start exempting countries, has to raise the tariff on everybody else. as was he exams one country, his phone starts ringing from heads of states of other countries. >>chris: but that's not what happened. the administration exempted canada and mexico and the european union and south korea and almost all the major exporters of aluminum and steel. i guess my question is, what was the point of announcing global tariffs in the first
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place when he took them all away? >> i think the strategies worked quite frankly. we announced the tariffs and said we were going to proceed. we said we would simultaneously negotiate. i am pleased to say ambassador - - reached a productive understanding with south korea. not just on these tariffs but on the trade agreement overall. we expect to sign the agreement soon. there is a quota so south korea will reduce the amount of steel they sent into the united states as part of this. i think this is an absolute win-win. at the g 20 last week, i had discussions with my counterparts where we put a pause on tariffs, we are negotiating. >>chris: president trump said his policies and especially the big tax cut that was passed at the end of last year would unleash strong economic growth. here is the president. >> to get it going in the way i really want where we have gdp getting up to four six percent
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because i think that's possible. >>chris: but the federal reserve, with this projection and if not 4-6 percent growth, it's 2.7 percent decline to 2.4 in 2019. this is the projection of the federal reserve. question, what happened to the boom? >> i think we had a boom and that's why the fed raised its projection to 2.7. part of the reason they are projected to raise interest rates is because of the performance of the economy. as i repeatedly said, our objective is three percent or higher. the president would like us to get higher but at three percent, there are billions of dollars in additional revenue to the government and tens of trillions of economic growth. >>chris: what they say you won't reach three percent. it will be 2.7 and then 2.4.
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>> as you know, the fed is independent and i respect their projections. our projections are higher. i think to focus on their projections are up significantly. we've now had two quarters of three percent gdp. we are well on our way to the three percent growth. tax reform and tax cuts are a big part of that. we are seeing enormous investment back in the united states and great success on that. >>chris: do you think the fed is raising interest rates too quickly? >> i respect fed independent so i will not comment on that. what i would say is the market expects interest rates will go up. so the only question is, how fast do you raise them and where does it stop? i think that something they will balance as they see economic growth. i think the fed is committed to make sure they don't cut off economic growth. >>chris: when the corporate tax bill was passed, you and president promised both of the benefits were going to go to workers but that's not in fact
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what has happened so far. i want to put up this chart. according to one study, s&p companies have givenemployees $5.2 billion in bonuses and higher wages. the kinds of things you and the president talked about but at the same time, they spent $157 billion on stock buybacks . so far, the tax cuts are going to shareholders. not to workers. >> first of all we are only a couple months into this. i think we have one half million americans that received special bonuses. that's an enormous situation. i was at boeing last week with the president. viewing the factory. there were a lot of happy workers there. i was at apple was committed to put $350 billion back into the united states. these are massive commitments. there's nothing wrong with share buybacks. share buybacks adjust the allocation of capital. the company can effectively use that capital, it will return it to shareholders and in many cases, that's pensions and other large investments. to invest that capital back
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into companies that need the capital. >>chris: are you disappointed that $5 billion is going to workers and $150 billion is going to shareholders? >> if not an equivalent comparison. that $150 billion going to shareholders gets recycled into the economy. the 5 billion to workers is an enormous amount of money that we didn't expect to see right away. what we expected to see is over the course of the next year, wages increase. something like 4 and a half thousand dollars. i think you are seeing more of the impact on the tax plan. >>chris: we had drama on friday where president trump threatened to veto the $1.3 trillion spending bill congress passed and eventually signed it. when he signed it, not very happily, he issued this morning. >> if i say to congress, i will
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never sign another bill like this again. i'm not going to do it again. >>chris: question, what is the president saying? is he saying he will not spend another - - spending bill. it's got to be individual for each department and this is something the republicans are in control of in the house and senate. the bill that was passed, aren't they responsible for this big omnibus buyback spending bill? >> not at all. you need bipartisan support in the senate to get the bill passed. even though the republicans control the senate, they couldn't pass this alone. it was a difficult decision for the president and i understand that. the president's main priority was to get money for the military. given everything going on in the world, that is actually critical. the democrats held us up. our original budget was we would keep everything else balanced but the democrats demanded a massive increase in nonmilitary spending. that's going to balloon the deficit and that something we
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have to deal with. >>chris: that will happen next time when an expanding bill comes up in october, they will demand parity as well. i'm not saying it's right or wrong but it's reality works i'm not going to, and what the president will do. >> is not planning on doing this again. i think they should give the president a line item veto. >>chris: does been was unconstitutional by the supreme court serve. >> congress can pass a rule that allows them to do it. >>chris: not unless there's a constitutional amendment. >> there's different ways of doing this. my comment is it's clear what happened. the democrats in order to get us military spending demanded a massive increase in nonmilitary spending. the president made the decision
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it was worth it because given what's going on in iran, north korea, venezuela, russia, all around the world. we need to make sure we have a military that has the necessary resources. >>chris: secretary steven mnuchin, thank you for your time this weekend. i always appreciate your willingness to take our questions and answer them. >> great to be here. >>chris: up next, more shakeups at the white house ads president trump names john bolton as his new national security advisor. we'll bring back the panel to discuss the new hawks on his national security team. things u. you can switch and save time. [cars honking] [car accelerating] you can switch and save worry. ♪ you can switch and save hassle. [vacuuming sound] and when you switch to esurance, you can save time, worry, hassle and yup, money. in fact, drivers who switched from geico to esurance saved hundreds. so you might want to think about pulling the ol' switcheroo. that's auto and home insurance for the modern world. esurance. an allstate company. click or call.
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where can we plan to load your nuclear weapons program as it is beginning next week. >>chris: president trump's new national security advisor john bolton suggesting weeks before his appointment how the president should handle his upcoming summit with kim jong-un.we are back with the panel. to say john bolton is a hardliner is an understatement . in addition, he said it was perfectly legitimate for the u.s. to conduct a preemptive strike on north korea. putting bolton at the nsc and mike pompeo at the state department, do you think that helps or hurts in terms of the president's foreign policy in general and specifically in terms of the upcoming summit with kim jong-un. >> i think it helps the president because i think he always felt he and secretary rex tillerson and mcmaster had a tension. that both of them wanted a more moderate policy than he did.
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now he has two guys that are him. it will allow him to relax and accept that they can work together as professionals. bolton is a solid professional with a very long career.i think bolton and pompeo will provide the president with a range of choices along with secretary matches. they will be going in the room saying, how canwe help get what you want done as opposed to going and saying, what you want done is wrong .>>chris: the new fox poll we were talking about earlier also asked people about the upcoming kim jong-un /trump summit. 62 percent approve of the two leaders meeting when asked, who will get the better deal, 42 percent say president trump. 26 percent say kim jong-un. juan, what do you think president trump putting together what some people call a war cabinet and doesn't increase chances for conflict or for peace? >> to me, the big item here
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chris is that we have the iran deal reauthorization coming up in about a month. the present have been reluctant in the past to sign it. mcmaster, rex tillerson were of the mind that he showed. that it's a good deal for the usa. bolton is a critic and a pony. i think he means in the short term it's less likely the president will allow the iran deal to go forward.what does that mean in terms of north korea? doesn't the united states as we try to negotiate with kim jong-un, that we might be seen as not keeping our commitment? i think it does increase the chances for conflict. not only in the short term, in terms of the iran deal but also with north korea. >>chris: i'm going to make a dramatic change because the president is also changing his legal team.his elite private lawyer, john dowd resigned this week and the president is apparently considering a
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well-known lawyer here in dc named joe - - to join the legal team. there was - - about trump back a couple months ago. >> there was a brazen plot to illegally exonerate hillary clinton and if she didn't win the election, to then frame donald trump with a falsely created crime.>>chris: julie, now there is talk that the president may be having second thoughts about bringing him on. what you know about that and two, with john dowd out and talk about the legal team, what's the strategy here? to get a sense that the president will be more cooperative with a special counsel and sit down and do an interview? will he be more combative, what's going on? >> questions about - - started to percolate quickly. he and his wife have a long-term and his wife is representing another person
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with potential exposure under the mueller investigation and that really encapsulates one of the problems the white house has had. in trying to bolster this legal team. the mueller investigation is incredibly broad so you have qualified lawyers all over town were conflicted out because of other clients that have taken on. the second problem where you have people who are not conflicted out who frankly don't want to join the team right now.it has been a struggle to find high-quality lawyers . >>chris: do you have a sense what his strategy is? >> his strategy as it relates to the investigation has been too full. one has been to say we want this investigation to continue. we think there is nothing the president did wrong either during the campaign or with some of the things we know mueller is looking at since he's taken office. the firing of comey, the crafting of this letter.but you do see the president himself itching to get this over with. getting it over with would mean
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doing some type of interview with mother's team. the president wants to do that interview more than his legal team does. >>chris: jason, what's your stance? what's the strategy going forward after these changes in personnel and do you think the president wants to sit down or not with mueller? >> we've obviously seen the comments from the president thank he wantsto shut sit down i think he should. in a conventional washington with a conventional client, this would be the advice you give the president to say don't sit down with him. but president trump is an unconventional president. he didn't run as a conventional candidate. >>chris: this isn't politics, this is a long. >> it all comes together because every critical moment in president trump's short political career, he has risen to the occasion. whether it's debates, make speeches point he is set down in depositions before and to sit down to say there is no
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collusion between the trunk campaign and foreign entity, i have full confidence he can do that. because he has to take that power away from mueller.right now, the only ones telling the story are president trump's political opponents. even after this recitation wraps up, president trump will be out there telling his story. going into 2019 and 2020. if he hasn't sat down, i think it will make it tougher for the american public to say he's completely cleared the deck. >> the reality is collusion is not what the president's lawyers are worried about. they are worried about what happened after he took office. the firing of comey. >>chris: the potential of obstruction of justice. >> he has the ability to dictate the terms ofwhat this interview will look like. if he's not telling his story, know what else is going to . >>chris: all right, 10 seconds. he picked a fight with you and
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you haven't said a word. >> my only point is this, trump may have done a lot of civil litigation criminal investigation by special councils are very different and very dangerous. >>chris: i think we would all agree. to be continued. this is not ending right here. thank you panel. see you next sunday. up next in our power player of the week. the pence family's pet the bunny is giving children a civics lesson. keep going. humira has a proven track record of being prescribed for over ten years. it's the #1 prescribed biologic by dermatologists. more than 250,000 patients have chosen humira to fight their psoriasis. and they're not backing down. for most patients clearer skin is the proof. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma have happened, as have blood, liver and nervous system problems. serious allergic reactions and new or worsening heart failure.
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years, there is no pet in the white house. but the vice president and his family have brought a menagerie to washington including a dog, cat and a bunny. which brings us to our power player of the week. >> he will sit and hold a pose and wait until you get a lot of shots but it's really adorable. he's kind of a prima donna. >> karen pence is talking about
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the family's pet bunny. the main character in a children's book she and her daughter charlotte have written called marlowe bundles stay in the life of the vice president. before we get to the book, there is marlins story. charlotte was working on a college film project and needed a bunny. >> i asked the owner of how much for the bunny. they said to make him an offer. it became this godfather joke with my friends. >> marlon brando became a marlin bundowax is kind of a metaphor. >> in 2017 when the family moved to washington. photographers parted marlon being carried off air force to. >> for some reason, it became this phenomenon. oh my gosh, the pence's have a bunny so charlotte thought it would be funny to start an instagram account. >>chris: - - an event honoring military families.
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an event that upstaged the vice president. >> whisper it. >> marlon, this is chris wallace. >>chris: that stands for bunny of the united states. my family has had a bunch of bunnies and none of them were as well behaved as marlon. >> he likes the spotlight a little bit. >>chris: so was born the idea for a book. about marlon following grandpa, the vice president, around washington for a full day of meetings. mrs. pence did the illustrations while charlotte did the verse. >> i live with my family here at the vice president's residence. >>chris: the pence's are donating proceeds from the book to charity. to fight human trafficking, mrs. pens to support art therapy. >> when our soldiers come back
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and can't talk about trauma, art therapy covering those emotions to the surface where they can deal with them. >>chris: charlotte saysmarlon brings bunny lovers together. comedian john olivercame out wi his own book, patrolling the vice president. with proceeds going to lgbt and age groups . >> our story is about - - calling and in love with another boy rabbit. >> on his instagram, marlon actually said, the only thing better than one bunny book that benefits charity is to bunny books that benefit charities. >>chris: marlon can be seen on instagram clipping the pages of his book. while mother and daughter are truly enjoying their collaboration. >> every time i see a picture of the kid reading my book.it makes my day. >> one of the first pictures she sent me on her phone where it says binding, pence, pence.
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>>chris: that's it for today. have a great week and we will see you on the next "fox news sunday". welcome to the journal editorial report. the white house shakeup continued this week with president trump announcing that former u.n. ambassador john bolton would replace h.r. mcmaster as security advisor. this comes on the heels of rex tillerson's ouster last week and as the white house faces key decisions on iran and north korea. does it signal a shift in the administration's foreign policy? let's ask deputy editor of the wall street journal, dan henniger, mary kissel and bill

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