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>> ♪ ♪ abby: look how happy. pete: that's right. pete: one more show tomorrow. don't miss us on easter. ed: chairman of the house tomorrow. >> fox on top of republicans not backing down, growing demands this hour for a second special counsel, after attorney general jeff sessions says not now. but with claims of fbi misconduct mounting, is house judiciary chair bob goodlatte taking no for an answer, he's here and the battle against california's sanctuary state is spreading, now san diego county maybe joining the fight the official who started it all is here and roseanne may be pro trump but one of her co-stars igniting a firestorm saying female trump voters can't think for themselves, now where have we heard that before plus did facebook just open the book to
more regulations, a leaked memo blowing the lid off this scandal and we're live in west palm beach where motorcycle riders are raising money in honor of parkland victim meadow pollach, her father arranging it all he joins us live. welcome to cavuto live. hi, everybody and happy easter to you all, i'm david asman, in for neil cavuto and no rest for facebook this weekend, as it scrambles to contain a massive scandal. and wall street's very worried about the fallout spreading to f bn lauren simonetti with the very latest. lauren: david we've got a lot to get to first new reports that facebook allowed the sale of user's personal data to the survey app that gave the information to cambridge and ultimately to the trump campaign the financial times says automated updates to the app didn't show facebook employees the changes and conditions and
policies, and that ultimately allowed the sale of data. meanwhile, facebook pursuing a pretty ugly growth strategy, buzzfeed published a memo from 2016 from the vice president of facebook, andrew bosworth. in it he said growing the company was more important than anything else, here is a quote. maybe it cost someone a life by exposing someone to bullies. maybe someone dies in a terrorists attack, coordinated on our tools. well, bosworth did clarify what he said on twitter saying that the purpose of this post was to bring to the surface issues i felt deserved more discussion. well facebook ceo mark zuckerberg has diplomat a vowed the memo and agreed to testify before congress about his company's privacy practices and that testimony reportedly scheduled for april 12. since this scandal broke facebook shares are down nearly 14% and guess what? facebook they're not the only
tech titan getting scrutinized. president trump also attacking amazon claiming that company doesn't pay enough in taxes to state and local government among other allegations in fact just this morning this is what the president tweeted on amazon. it is reported that the u.s. post office will lose $1.50 on average for each package it delivers for amazon. he goes on to write if the post office increased rates, amazon's shipping costs would rise by $2.6 billion. this post office scam must stop, amazon must pay real costs and taxes now. all right, truth be told, we'll start with taxes first. amazon does collect sales tax in all 45 states that have one. it does not generally collect state sales taxes for its third party sellers although that is slowly changing. of course the ceo of amazon, jeff bezos, he also owns the washington post and that is a newspaper often critical of the president at the white house, if you take a look at amazon shares
this week, i mean an amazing company on the year, but they were down in the past week, david. david: they took it on the chin thank you very much lauren so did facebook just open the book for more regulations? joining us now is financial analyst, adam lashinsky and forbes media editor in chief steve forbes. steve, lauren read some of that memo, i just got to read one part where the writer this is not like a low-function area of facebook. this is the vice president his name is andrew bosworth. he wrote the ugly truth is that we believe in connecting people so deeply that anything that allows us to connect more people more often is de facto good. didn't facebook go over the line here? >> it did and it's paying a severe price for it today, but the key thing is what you do in response. we don't want what mark mills the technology are you calls big regulation, that will stifle innovation, help facebook by
keeping future competitors out that fall under heavy government regulation so the key thing is what you do about it. apple has to tighten up and the industry comes up with its own standards because if government gets in all of us are going to pay a price for it. david: adam you spend a lot of your time covering silicon valley you're out there quite a bit. is this really the tone of what goes on there that anything goes as long as it's good for the bottom line? >> yes, absolutely, aided by respectfully steve with the kind of mentality that just steve just articulated these are people who believe that all government regulation is bad because as steve said quite accurately just now, it will stifle innovation. i obviously -- david: but wait adam then why is it that if they're against government regulation why aren't they pro-trump? >> [laughter] >> so are you, [laughter] -- >> yeah, you've got it. >> well that's an interesting question, i mean, the history of silicon valley is that these people are largely libertarians.
just leave us alone to develop this great technology. i can't begin to answer why or what their actual political views are but there's no doubt in my mind, david, that facebook needs to be regulated just in the way the broadcast arrivers are regulated and many other examples. david: but heather, there is an irony here a dramatic irony that is the internet is so successful and these companies are so successful, there's so many billionaires out there precisely because there isn't that much regulation. i'm kind of surprised and shock ed that they are so anti- trump when he's delivered so many anti-regulatory business advantages to america. >> you're right anti-trump because it benefits them right now taking advantage of tax loopholes and corporate welfares in the case of amazon with jeff bezos the richest man in the world amazon raking in $5.6 billion right now trump is going after them, president
trump is, he is in favor of supporting the middle class and small businesses, not big business, so they are democrats because democrats have become the party of the elites actually , and it's the other way around. david: very strange. very very strange. >> yes. we're changing the subject here david. david: go ahead adam. >> with regard to amazon and heather and president trump are misrepresenting what's going on, i'm not taking amazon side here. he says amazon doesn't pay its taxes. that debate is about -- david: we'll talk about that for a second but let's keep it on facebook adam and the point is here when you're talking about regulation and i want to get to steve on this too but first to you since you spoke up. who would you rather have in control of all that personal information? facebook or the government? >> well it's a false choice. david: no it's not at all. the government is going to be regulating our information and
the government has more access to our information. >> sure, sure, well if you put it to me that way david i have no problem putting the responsibility with the entity that keeps our skies safe, our food and drugs safe and we can go down that list. david: yeah we can go down okay let me go to steve now because we can also go down a list of the way in which the government has abused their control of our information and, you know, it's not that i want facebook to have all of my details but i'm not going to give facebook all of my details. i have that choice. i'm not sure i want the government to have the choice, steve. >> not at all, david and the thing is high-tech is on the verge of a huge breakthroughs as we bring in a lot of new companies if you don't have government regulation in the areas of healthcare, construction, manufacturing, big breakthroughs are coming this is precisely the time you don't want government getting involved and in terms of privacy information i guarantee you facebook is going to be a little more responsive to safeguards now than they were in the past, following up to make sure people follow their policies about against abuses.
david: heather, in the end, it's up to us. i know that they're always talking about these long forms that you're required to fill out most of us don't read it. i agree. david: perhaps we should emphasize the part that says you don't want facebook to share this with any other person particularly people that have a political interest in my information. okay i get that, i understand that, but other than that, what else should the government be doing that it's not? >> well, i think right now, obviously we don't want the government over regulating the tech sector but mark zuckerberg and cheryl sandberg are on an apology tour right now. it's not right to sell our data without our permission and that's what we're going after that they violated our trust and therefore the got has to step in but i'm by no means for over regulating the tech sector. its been phenomenal but in this
case they violated our trust and that's not right. david: adam let's stick on business the business of what's going on in silicon valley. how much and of course the stock implications of it, how much did the stock downturn and not just to facebook but of the entire tech sector have to do with fears about the government getting in and regulating? >> well that's part of it. i don't think the government there's any concern that the government wants to be the arbit or of this data. that's what i meant when i said you were presenting a false choice. david: but just in terms of the money that we're talking about here and what happened to the stock in facebook and in other tech companies how much of that downturn is because of concerns about overregulation? >> it's a concern as heather put it that facebook has violated the trust of its customers and though facebook does a good job of connecting people, they also do a great job of selling this data.
the concern is they will have a harder time selling this data. david: i understand gang thank you very much good discussion. what more republicans demanding a second special counsel to probe the fbi after attorney general jeff sessions rejects their request, house freedom caucus member dave brat is one of them and he is here. and you're looking live at harley riders hitting the road in honor of parkland shooting victim meadow pollachbeings traveling 43 miles to the coral springs home of her father, andrew, where a fundraiser will begin and he will be joining us, live you don't want to miss it that's coming up.
reporter: hi, david conservative s are still very disappointed with the attorney general for not appointing a second special counsel to investigate with an outsider's perspective potential law breaking at the fbi but democratic lawmakers are now saying that they're not surprised they see this as the republican playbook, just where the attorney general sessions just follows the lead of the house intel committee which wound down their russia probe earlier this month. >> it's really lockstep with what chairman nunes was doing creating additional investigations on separate matters is the only way to describe it. reporter: the leader of this new investigation is u.s. attorney for utah john hoover, doing all of this work outside of the belt way, and the primary purpose of his probe is to try to figure out if fbi agents who text messages who suggest favored hillary clinton in the election and then used an unverified and
sensational dossier to fudge applications for a fisa warrant so that they could spy on a trump campaign advisor named carter page, who now says that he was not trying to shape the campaign's russia platform that he was never a central figure in the campaign, but page is the central figure of this new probe 's origin story. >> i feel guilty that i didn't fight back harder when this first started 45 days before the election when the fake news story started coming out and defaming me and so part of me feels bad that i didn't do more to stand up for my rights. reporter: the only investigation tied to any of this that's wound down so far is the house intel committee. they cast carter page as someone who had his rights violated in a major way by the justice department but the results of that investigation so far have been dismissed by some on the
left as partisan because democrats did not sign off on the majority on the republican conclusions. now though they've got a season ed prosecutor looking to see exactly what happened with page and who knows what he'll come up with. david? david: peter doocy in a setting down in florida good to see you peter enjoy your easter weekend, house freedom caucus member dave brat has been calling for a second special counsel the virginia congressman joins me now, now congressman i'm guessing you're not happy with this move, right? >> yeah, no, we're not happy at all. the new appointment isn't sufficient. he reports to rosenstein and he's in the middle of the dossier fault lines, the entire problem. you've got 10 fbi starting with the top comey fired or displaced 10 top political appointees that the fbi are missing and the attorney general sessions who i respect says there's not enough there to go forward with the special prosecutor. when you've got 10 of the top
fbi officials stepping down or being fired there's enough there and then the new hire reports to rosenstein whose now in charge of the investigation and it's like the fox guarding the hen house, right? so everybodies friends, they're all formally under comey and the american people say what's going on here, where is the closure? no one gets fired, no one goes to jail. there's nothing hillary clinton had a $2 billion foundation funded a lot with international money that now goes to zero when she loses political influence so economics right i taught economics for 20 years. when you see incentives like that when somebody gets $2 billion and it goes to zip, it's pay-to-play all over the place. david: also congressman, jeff sessions is saying that there's not enough there for a special counsel. what was there for the mueller special counsel? i mean, there was no evidence of a crime. i would venture, even though there's, there have been some convictions or at least some
plea deals with mueller clearly that's true but it didn't involve the election itself, it involved past crimes. you think of what happened with regard to not only the carter page situation and fisa and whether that fisa court is so important for our freedom in the united states was misused for political purposes, you think of all the people that were working for mccabe working with peter strzok and his friendlies a page and then brian ore at the doj there seems to be more there than there is in the mueller investigation. >> yeah, that's exactly right and so that's why the person people are scratching their head there's nothing there that shows russian collusion with the white house and the administration so now they're probing for other stuff. on the other side we have mccabe lying four times as my colleague jim jordan noted the other night we have 12 material breaches of information not provided as my colleague mark meadows mentioned the other night on breaking news and you have a dossier which is funded by the clinton campaign
and that's the only short tie to russia that we know of, right? russia is our enemy. we are in clear opposition of them on policy, on foreign policy on economics, but -- david: but congressman just one final question. we all know what happened with ken star who started out investigating whitewater and ended up with monica lewinsky. now, we have prosecutor special prosecutor started out with russian collusion where there doesn't seem to be any so he's going off on other topics, why wouldn't the same happen with a new special counsel? >> yeah, well i think that's fair right? i taught ethics for 20 years too and you put down the criteria ahead of time so these thins need to be constrained. david: but we had a criteria for mr. mueller and he's going far beyond that criteria. >> yeah, well i think we need to tighten it far more, so it's too sloppy. we need to con strain it this is very clear on the democrat side, right? the obstruction with the dossier , false documents, 12
material breaches, four lies you just go right down the list it's all there connected to the thesis statement. david: congressman brat great to see you have a wonderful holiday weekend thank you for joining us. you too everyone out there happy easter. david: well pro trump roseanne bar's show is a big hit with americans but now one of her cast members is bashing women who voted for trump. plus, as more california cities and counties fight the state sanctuary law, california's top prosecutors threatening to arrest anybody who disobeys the state law. we'll meet someone who is facing that threat, coming next. >> it's my job to enforce state law. i will do so and we want to make sure that every jurisdiction including orange county understand what state law requires. u'll need in retiremen? then we found out how many years that money would last them. how long do you think we'll keep --
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david: san diego county is the latest place in california considering a fight against the state's sanctuary law this is president trump praises orange county's board for joining a federal lawsuit against the state law, but california's attorney general saying he'll arrest anybody who disobeys it. orange county vice chair shawn nelson joins us now. mr. nelson are you worried about getting arrested? >> not at all, but i suppose having never been arrested it would be a little sporty, but no that's not something i'm concerned about. david: well you're taking it in good cheer but it does put county officials in a very difficult position who do you obey? the federal government or the state government? >> well the good news for our
sheriffs personnel is our sheriff has made it clear they are going to follow the law. she was able to sort of outsmart the legislature. david: i'm sorry follow which law the state law or federal law >> well right now the state law because of course they're sworn peace officers in the state of california. the reason we're starting up for them and fighting is because they're put in a predicament being asked to ignore federal officials who rightfully they need to communicate with that's what this fight is all about. david: but mr. nelson it's more than just we can laugh about it there are some extraordinarily crazy things about this but there are real consequences and the main one being are dangerous criminals being let out on the street by this state sanctuary law? >> 100% and i have the data to prove it. the opponents want to claim that that's not happening but those are just not the facts and it's not too difficult to prove otherwise. david: well isn't your primary
responsibility of any government official to protect the citizens and if a law is interfering with the protection of citizens, it's clearly a bad law, if not something that should just be thrown off the books. >> well it's not only a bad law in this case, it's unconstitutional to prevent law enforcement officers from appropriately communicating with the right federal authorities. david: so why are you following an unconstitutional law? >> well for right now, what we're doing is the sheriff has a work-around but the challenge that we're in is our deputies are the working men and women and the last thing i need for officer smith is to have them suspended. we've chosen to file a lawsuit, and join the federal government so we can clear this up and not put these people in the pickle they're already in. david: i always like to bring it back to the real world and there was a very real world example of how dangerous all of
this is in sacramento, this cop killer who was convicted of killing a cop and he made a pledge in the courtroom with a s mirk on his face he was going to breakout and kill more if he could. there is the person i won't even mention his name he doesn't deserve it to be mentioned but would the california law, i mean he is an illegal alien and would the california lawfully give sanctuary to somebody like that? >> well they would when he's arrested. what the california law does and if you listen to the opponents carefully they try to hide behind it. when he's arrested here is our problem. if you get arrested on real serious charges but you bail out you're not yet convicted. california wants to only deal with convicted people. a lot of people are about to be convicted but if they make bail which is our problem, whose more than likely to never show up for court again for a serious felony someone who just bailed out and those are the people i'm most
concerned about but california also made a lot of misdemeanors a few years ago and that's a whole other set of problems. david: we only have 30 seconds but i'm wondering how far the attorney general becerra is willing to go if he loses in the courts would he defy the courts? >> that's a great question. i think he represents a group of government officials in this state that would rather that the state have to follow no federal rules and if they could let all the criminals out that are alien s just to prove a point i suspect they would. it's ridiculous and putting people in danger and someone had to stand up and that's why we got involved. david: shawn nelson we thank you very much, good luck to you. >> thanks for having me. david: absolutely well, coming up the main character in the hit show roseanne loves trump but one of her cast members saying in real life, some women voted for trump because they can't think for themselves. we'll play the tape. and we want to take you back back to florida where you're looking live at the ride for
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david: well after just one show the roseanne reboot already getting picked up for a second season the sit com getting high praise from viewers and the president for tackling political issues from both sides of the aisle take a listen. >> i guess i didn't mean to imply that you're some right- wing jack ass. i should of tried to understand why you voted the crazy way that you did. >> [laughter] >> and i should of understood that, you know, you want the government to give everybody free healthcare because you're a good hearted person who can't do simple math. david: [laughter] but that explanation may not have been good enough for one of the show's cast members. listen to this.
>> white women for trump. >> can't understand it. don't know where it comes from other than, you know, being i think that it's a couple of issues it's being either under the thumb of your husband or it was being so offended by hillary clinton and bill clinton's legacy that you turned on her or feeling inadequate. a lot of women have compromised, given in, gotten married, raised their kids and not had the luxury of being able to think for themselves. david: of course hillary clinton recently saying something very similar to that, so are they right or wrong? back with us is fbn's lauren simonetti and joined with fox news contributor jessica tar love. cat first you what do you think? i think that not being able to think for yourself is something that people often do but that's an idiot thing and not a woman thing and i think that it's very offensive to suggest that these millions of american women who voted for trump only did so
because they were idiots. david: jessica how does hillary or sandra for that matter know that some women weren't actually the ones to direct their husband's to vote in a certain way? i know in my household very often my wife convinced me of things that i was on the other side of? >> absolutely and i think at base here we know that one household has one economic interest right? everybody has the same bills to pay and they have the same amount of money coming in and most people vote on the economy so it would make sense that a husband and wife would share the same political interest. hillary clinton is making a point that there are a number of studies that support this about how women vote and that's what hillary clinton was going off of and what sandra is echoing here. david: what do you think about those studies by the way because there's studies that tell you just about anything you want them to tell you. >> totally. you can find studies. david: do you believe that women will do what their husband's tell them to do politically? >> i don't think it's like hey honey you'll do this type of
thing but within families it's obviously complicated and people get pushed in certain directions that's not how i would explain hillary clinton's loss it's not how i would explain why it is that white women tend to vote republican. i think it has a lot to do with a certain set of values that are aligned with the republican party. i'm just saying they didn't just make this up. david: lauren let's talk about the politics of hollywood so to speak. ben stein used to say that hollywood's the only place where carl marks was right where there is no rhyme or reason but at least abc is not ignoring the marketplace. it seemed that a lot of people in hollywood they would see the ratings go down with all of the anti-trump stuff and they wouldn't change their ways. abc is recognizing if you have at least a hint at a pro-trump character, it's good for ratings lauren: well there's more than just the coast. there's the whole interior of the country that might not see things as new york and california too. david: the coast did not tune into roseanne. i think both new york and la turned it off. chicago was the only mass market
actually. lauren: this is an awakening i think for so much as a country that you can have successful entertainment that has different views. back scott sandra bernheart commentary. i don't even know if i should take it seriously. she's older, this is a different generation but i worry about my mortgage and how i'm going to pay for my mortgage. i'm worried about how we're going to do all the things we need to do and i do not rely on a man, not only for my political views but for anything financially and i'm married. so it's just -- david: and about to have another baby. lauren: so i think she was just trying to understand where this is coming from and then to say that women would be jealous of a successful woman like hillary clinton? david: right. lauren: why would you be jealous of a woman like whose successful david: we here, particularly because it's our bread and buttere tend to focus on politic s all the time. that's what he talk about and what we get paid to talk about
let's be frank about it. most of america probably is not, i know it's a more political time than it used to be but still, they're more interested in the bread and butter issues lauren was talking about than politicals right? >> right absolutely and people voted for donald trump for all kinds of reasons. some people he was a pro-life candidate so whose ever is pro- life that's who they vote for. for some people they saw him on the apprentice and kind of liked him i don't know but to say all these women voted for him because their husband's made them first of all in the ballot box you're by yourself so you can kind of do whatever you want and nobody will ever know. >> you could just lie about it. >> [laughter] >> but there's something racial go on here and why did white women vote for trump and the new york times picks this up in an editorial that was written and the author was saying well, part of the election was the fact that only white people lost their jobs, so that's why they might have been more inclined to vote for the president so racial
nuances -- >> but that's the same in every election. david: ladies we could go for an hour. thank you very much. next week we'll get back to you next week. meanwhile an american held captive by terrorists in syria is accusing the fbi of using him as bait. he is here. wait until you hear his story plus mcdonald's and walgreens latest companies sharing tax cuts with their workers but some democrats are back home telling voters that cuts are a big scheme. will that backfire come november ♪ with expedia you could book a flight, hotel, car and activity all in one place. ♪
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every day. david: meanwhile, call it the gift that keeps on giving. more companies are sharing the tax cut with workers this week, walgreens saying the corporate tax cut will allow it to give employees a raise and mcdonald's is using it to triple the tuition benefits for its workers all this as the upcoming corporate earnings season is expected to be the best in seven years but some democrats are still calling cuts a scheme. here now is the ranking member of the house budget committee democratic congressman from kentucky, john yarmoth. john you don't think all these benefits are just crumbs do you? >> well, no. i think if somebody in the middle income range gets $50 a week, $2500 a year or so, that's significant. david: not if you're a wealthy millionaire congresswoman though like nancy pelosi then it's just crumbs. >> well but you look on the other side at a company like
pfizer is going to benefit to the tune of $220 million a week, so -- david: but you know how many millions of stockholders there are for a company line that so they benefit as well but the point is that $50 a week that's a couple extra bags of groceries i mean this could be a significant change in people's lives this tax cut. why are democrats still running against it? >> well, we're perfectly in favor of giving middle income americans a break, and we're all supportive of that. what we're not supportive of are these massive tax cuts to billionaires and to large corporations. the vast majority of which is not going to be used to raise salaries to reinvest. we already know more -- david: but congressman just last week we got word the gdp was increasing to 2.9%, there's a 4% increase in retail sales, there's signs of economic growth all over the place and of course
the unemployment levels we have some of these levels are at 45- year lows that's really good news for the majority of people in this country. you don't think it has anything to do with the tax cuts? >> well i think it's too early to tell. we haven't seen much re investment, morgan stanley estimated that two-thirds of the corporate tax cuts would go to dividends and stock buybacks and to mergers and acquisitions. stock buybacks already totaled about $220 billion so i think it still remains to be seen whether this is going to trickle down to most americans. on a permanent basis because remember, neil, those tax cuts evaporated a few years. david: well you're absolutely right the individual ones and the president wants to do a tax cut phase ii in which he would make those individual cuts permanent. would you be with the president on that? >> depends how far he goes. again if it's targeted at middle america which is what the republicans said the initial bill was, then i think we would
be receptive to that. if it's just an excuse for more tax cuts for everybody else for the rich as well, i wouldn't, and here is the thing. david: but hold on a second i've got to correct something. you said just for the rich. it's obviously not just for the rich. the takehome pay of millions of americans are increasing. >> if the balance of the benefits go to the rich. david: okay. >> but here is the thing that we need to focus on. that the economy functions in obviously very complex pays. david: sure. >> and what we want to make sure is that any tax changes don't mess up the deficit that they don't, they actually do promote growth and again, we're going to see the jury is still out on whether there's any growth promotion from here but again you've got republicans calling for a balanced budget amendment and how disingenuinous is that?
david: well some would say how disingenuinous is it to talk about the debt when it doubled under president obama but you look at the generic polls that is would you generally vote for republicans or for democrats, and the democrats have been going down, the republicans have been going up and i'm just wondering if you think that has to do with you guys focusing on how bad tax cuts are that most americans seem to like more and more. >> i don't know i think it's probably a little bit of a natural balancing out but six or seven points is enough for us to take the house back and neil you remember in that special election in pennsylvania, republicans tried to use the tax cuts as an argument to elect their candidate and they had to pull those ads off the air because they weren't effective. david: rick saccone a lot of people say he ran away. best of luck to you congressman, have a wonderful holiday weekend all right? >> thanks, neil you too. david: thank you, thank you very much. it's an honor to be called neil
even though i'm david meanwhile american photographer matthew sh rier was kidnapped and tortured in syria by a terrorists group and he managed to escape but now he says the fbi actually used him as bait to help track the terrorists. his amazing story is with you next with matt himself, that's coming up. >> you're saying the fbi used your safety in order to track al qaeda? >> yes. has pro-skin technology designed to quickly wick away moisture to help maintain your skin's natural balance. for a free sample call 1-877-get-tena.
says the fbi mishandled his case , even using him as bait. he describes it all in a new book called dawn prayer, matt sc hrier joins us now. matt good to see you again briefly explain a lot of people don't understand why anybody would want to go into a war zone like syria when you have these crazy terrorists groups chopping off people's heads. why did you go in there? >> well at the time this was before everyone's heads were getting chopped off. the only journalist missing was austin tice, and he was captured outside of damascus. actually there were three missing but the fbi was encouraging all the families to keep quiet which gave off the impression that as long as you stayed in the forth with the fsa , the free syrian army you wouldn't exactly be safe but you'd be in good hands which wasn't exactly the truth. david: and now you were leaving the country, going to go through turkey which borders syria, and that's when they captured you, right? >> right. i was there for 18 days, didn't have a scratch on me, and when i
was 45 minutes from the turkish border, they grabbed me. it took me seven months. david: this was not just so people know this is right before ice became the number one terror group in syria which fortunately they are no longer the number one terrorists group but this was at the time they were the most brutal terror group and they treated you pretty badly for months, right? >> correct. at first they treated me really well for the first month and five days because the guy who ran the prison liked me because he thought high was funny but then he caught me trying to escape and got a little upset and things went downhill pretty quickly. david: now they tortured you and out of you they got all of your passwords and all sorts of credit card information with which they were able to buy a lot of things particularly computers. the fbi apparently found out about this and they were interested in kind of using you as bait because they then could track through their computers what it was they were doing, so
even though the fbi was telling your family that they were trying to get you out they were kind of using you weren't they? >> yes, they were actually telling my family i was the one making all the purchases. this is all documented in e-mails that i was using my bank accounts and my cell phone. there's a mountain of evidence i want to turnover to the department of justice. on march 19, i believe it was the day that my folder fell on agent lindsay's desk somebody went into my pay pal account and changed the password so that all purchase receipts would be sent to a new e-mail address. this e-mail address was setup within the united states by somebody using a vpn, virtual private network. that's the fbi and this is weeks before they contacted my family. so they were investigating me. david: now the fbi put out a statement i'm looking on my computer we can put it up on the screen. the fbi's investigation into the kidnapping remains open, therefore we're not able to
discuss details surrounding the case. the fbi fully supports the work of the agents and victim specialists who have remained professionals in working with mr. shrier, since his return home we worked with our partners in the u.s. government to provide a full range of services and guidance to help him rebuild his life as we do for all victims however it is at the discretion of the victim to accept and elementary these. now they don't directly approach what your main premise which is that you were being used as bait but what do you think of that statement? >> i think it's a bunch of bolog na. they failed to mention they have two suspects or terrorists for four years who extorted me for my financial information and when they say it's at my discretion yes it's at my discretion not to go to a doctor that refuses to prescribe fda- approved drugs and not to keep making appointments with a shrink they gave me who canceled
five pointments my first two months old and at my discretion to get frustrated with an fbi agent who keeps asking do you need anything and i said yes i need a new social security number, i mean the list goes on i can talk for a full hour on things like this. david: but matt the bottom line is that the main charge that you make in your book is that the fbi setup the protect american citizens and they weren't interested in protecting you. they were more interested in using you as bait for this terrorists group. quick 10 second final. go ahead. >> correct, that is it. i have the evidence to prove it. i've been on the highest rated network saying i want to turn it over to the department of justice. now it's at their discretion to take it. david: the book is the dawn prayer matt we wish you the very best. please stay in touch. >> thank you very much. david: coming up, house judiciary committee chairman bob goodlatte is here with a message to attorney general jeff sessions and we are tracking the ride for meadow pollach.
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steve, i've got to say, i'm not a big fan of census forms. they've gotten a lot too personal for me over the years. >> they have. david: they ask me that, they ask me that, but their main purpose is to see how many citizens live in a particular area of the country so we can adjust our congressional county vis-a-vis that, but these are citizens. that's their job is to count citizens. why is it not proper to ask that the person they're asking is a citizen? >> the constitution says they're counting people. david: forgive me and you're a better constitutional scholar than i am. >> no. david: the real point technically speaking why they wanted to know how many people were living in each area of the country was so they can adjust the number of congressional representatives, right? >> that's right, but they did the whole population. notoriously and they said only three-fifths of a person then, that part of the constitution
that got amended, but they ask how many cars you have, your income and everything else. i think they should just count the people and take the other junk out. but if they ask all of that other stuff, citizenship is a valid question. david: and capri, why are your democratic colleagues so furious about this? >> let me couch my answer in saying i get it. i understand why people would want to say, look, you know, we need to know how many citizens there are. and they shouldn't be utilizing government resources, whatever the circumstances may be. there's a 2015 or 2016 supreme court case actually coming out of texas that addressed the issue of one person, one vote and they unanimously rejected that saying we have to count versus human beings. and at large, generally speaking, the question of citizenship could depress the
responses coming back for the u.s. census bureau. i happen to be concerned of a few things. number one, it came too late to be tested in the sort of dry run that's happening in a few weeks and starting in providence, rhode island. i think that that's going to be, you know, a concern we haven't had a chance to see exactly how this is going to react and we have to remember that you know, a decade is a very long time and you know, there may be significant sea changes within our government. what happens if these people don't fill out the census form and later on there's a path to citizenship and we have problem with redistricting as well as federal grants. david: but if i'm here illegally, i apparently have no qualms about saying things that aren't true because that's the only way that i can survive here if i lie about my citizenship. so what's to prevent me from lying to a census taker and saying, yeah, i'm a citizen. >> you're not supposed to lie to a census taker. david: but you're not supposed to be here illegally.
>> i agree with you. what happens, you have democrats whipping up unfounded fear among the immigrant communities. they're going to have immigrants here legally who are going to say, well, maybe this is against my friends and let's not forget that this information cannot be used by law enforcement or immigration enforcement. so, this is really just about kind of a head count of how many people in this nation, are they hear and what is their status. i will say there are positive things, new additions to the census, and to be really happy about. me as a black woman, i can talk about-- i can write in my ethnicity that wasn't able to be captured before. so, you know, there's some-- there's some positives to the census and i think that the question is about citizenship, which is fine. david: i always put other when it comes to race, steve. i don't like to tell it so i put other. i'm a whole lot of different things, but the bottom line, steve, call me cynical, but i really believe that what's going
on here in the democratic protests about it is that eventually they are hoping that a lot of these illegals are going to become legal and legal enough to vote and this is about a vote count. they think that if they provide any kind of benefit at all to illegal aliens right now, they're going to add to their vote count at election time. >> that's their ultimate goal, but in terms of finding out who are illegals and who are citizens they've asked questions like that in the past. this is nothing new in the history of the census. recently everything has become politicized saying it's a question about citizenship. as you say, a dozen states are up in arms about it. david: patrice, isn't there a political goal for democrats, so many of the immigrant issues we're going right now, democrats really see this as an enlargening of their pool of potential voters in the future? >> i'm sure there are some democrats that feel like that. here is one thing i think we need to remember, the group of individuals that are undocumented are promise merrill
from, you know, hispanic and latino communities and i think that the assumption that the hispanic and latino communities are somehow a voting monolith that will all go democrat i think is wrong and i think that the republicans actually have an opportunity, you know, particularly in the faith-based communities and the catholic communities, to get these voters no different than democrats. so, you know, i think that if democrats think this is going to help them, it may actually backfire. david: interesting, very good discussion, gang. thank you very much. as russia releases a video showing a new rocket test for nuclear missile, we're hearing president trump tell putin if you want to have an arms race, i'll win. someone says that it's making the world safer. how sister jean is helping one march madness team's dreams come true. will their prayers be answered
>> well, a tit-for-tat between the u.s. and russia could escalate. the state department saying we may retaliate over russia deposing our diplomates and all before a u.s.-north korea summit. so is the talk making us more or less safe? and with us is showdown gordon chang and can we end the fiction that trump is too weak to deal with russia? >> good morning, david, the answer is absolutely yes. the president trump is viewing the world as it is and being forthright with the american people and telling what we're facing as a nation and when you look at it, russia, north korea or iran he's having an open and
honest dialog and conversation so the american people can appreciate the threat and know what may be expected of them in the months or years to come to confront them. david: and commander, you think of all of what's happened every the past year in president trump's dealing with russia. you have the expulsions most recently and next week, by the way, he's going to be meeting with the leaders of the baltic countries, lithuania, latvia, astona and we've been building up arms shipments to the ukrainian government to prevent more russian incursions into the ukraine. the firing of the tomahawk missiles of the russian allies in syria and the buildup of oil in this country which, of course, makes their oil cheaper. >> if nothing else, president trump is a realist in how he views and takes on the world. you have to look at it and say, look, the nice talk has gotten us nothing for literally decades from both sides of the aisle. this is one of the benefits that
president trump brings to the presidency. for once we're having an honest conversation about some of the shortfalls we're having and some things we need to do to strengthen our nation. clearly one of them is energy dominance when you look at russia and iran are trying to do, we want to have the ability to export our natural resources, our natural gas. the oil that we're getting from fracking because that gives us leverage in the real world. david: and gordogordon, you wan talk about honest talk, think about what he's talked about north korea the past year and some of which scared the heck out of the folks in the state department, it's undiplomatic and too harsh. the tough talk and the maximum pressure seems to be paying off with north korea? >> it certainly has been. now we're on the verge of talks with kim jong-un, the north korean leader directly. this is important because president trump instinctively
made the right move by the talks. he drove a wedge between them and moon jae-in wanted those talks and kim concerned about what the united states might do to him, we're sitting down and having direct talks. that's a great idea. david: for the all the talk how undiplomatic president trump is,'s working with ambassador haley to try to get a whole bunch of u.n. sanctions, they just were announced and the u.n. has been doing sanctions things without results for years, but with the backing of this maximum pressure that we have going now with the trump administration, we might be getting somewhere and it's being done diplomatically as well as militarily, gordon. >> we have sanctions issues on friday, and the thing is that those u.n. sanctions and the u.s. sanctions the unilateral u.s. sanctions are having an
effect because we know that the chinese are saying office number 39, kim jong-un's personal slush fund is running out of money. and the south koreans are saying that north korean may not have any foreign exchange reserves by october. i don't know if that's actually going to be true, but the point is that kim, if he doesn't have money, can't launch missiles, can't detonate nukes, and can't engage in gift politics, the buying of loyal of senior regime elements. and kim wants to talk to trump and that means we've got to be doing something right. david: commander, one thing we haven't been doing for a while now is keeping our military as prepared as it should be. we don't have enough ships, that's something of particular concern to you, i know. we don't have enough planes and planes we have are in disrepair. we don't have enough pilots, the training that we need in the military. the president just got the budget through and didn't like the domestic spending, but did it primarily for the military spending. is that going to prepare us for the russian threats, particularly as we see the satan
two missile launch? >> it's going to prepare us, but the keeping of the 700 billion budget we had, merely a down payment of a decade of short changing the military. when you look at it today, every ship at sea is undermanned, undertrained, underequipped and that comes under time when you look at the number of aircraft accidents across the services it's because the pilots aren't getting the flight time they need. we don't have the parts to get the aircraft up and running so we need to make an investment and part of what we need to do is have an honest conversation with the american people, here is what it takes to run a military. when you run it, you only get this much money. this piece right here is called risk, and what we're having today is there's a lot of senior military leadership that are not being honest with congress in what that risk involves over the long-term. david: commander, there used to be an axiom that the u.s. had to be prepared to fight two major wars at the same time. do we have that capability right
now? >> no, and we have not had it for a long time. we've chipped away from two major front wars, down to one major front war and a minor war and then it's one major war with minor squirmishes, we're chipping away at or ability across the globe and it's time to have a realistic conversation once again, because we need a military that can predict our interests, the interest of the american people, and to a degree, our allies as well, calling them to task, especially in n.a.t.o., to begin to pony up, pay what they need to and do what's necessary to confront the threats facing us. david: gordon, quickly, some people thought that the president was giving kim jong-un too much time to do more nuclear research to set up for the talks and some people say because of the what the commander was talking about, we need the time to rearm, reup our military in case things don't work out with
north korea diplomatically. >> it takes time to build up the military. i think time is on our side because of the sanctions which means that kim needs to come to the table to talk to trump because he wants sanctions released. time is on our side, that's the first time in a long time, time is on our side. david: it's good to have it going the other wayment gordon, great to see you. and commander as well. >> thank you. david: house committee chair bob go goodlatte, wanted a special counsel to look into fbi, sessions says he won't. what will goodlatte say? as the ride for meadow continues for his daughter. she was killed in the parkland school shooting. how we arranged all of this with harley davidson, what is he planning to do with the money? andrew is coming up here coming up. whoooo.
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>> are you the one? did you buy a lottery ticket? you may want to check your wallet. mega millions announcing one winning ticket was sold at luke oil station riverdale, new jersey. the winner taking home a jackpot of about $521 million. wouldn't that be nice? new developments are emerging in the case against the recently fired deputy fbi director andrew mccabe. reportedly a report showing discrepancy between his statement and his former boss james comey's statements. all this after attorney general jeff sessions just rejected calls to appoint an independent special counsel to look into possible fbi conflict. instead he named a u.s. attorney to do that. house committee chairman
goodlatte asked for a special counsel and he joins us. happy easter, glad you to join us. >> happy easter to you, david. david: is john hoover enough? he's a very good prosecutor, he gets accolades from all over the place, but is he enough to investigate this whole slew of stuff that's cropped up? >> well, we hope so and we don't know for sure and that, coupled with the fact that we really think this should be an investigation outside of the department of justice altogether, is why we continue to call for a special counsel, but we do think this is a step in the right direction. it gets it out of washington d.c., out of main justice, if you will. it shows that the attorney general and the department are taking this matter more seriously. i think that, coupled with their scramble here in recent days to comply with the subpoena that i issued last week, shows that the attention to this is increasing. it's very important. david: but, you've brought up a
great point which is that the justice department can't investigate itself, particularly, you know, you hear these charges about a deep state, an entrenched bureaucracy, however you want to describe it, of people that have been there for generations, practically, and they-- their purpose is to maintain their positions and the positions of their friends in the department of justice so they can investigate themselves. how much is mr. hoover going to have to rely on this entrenched bureaucracy to cooperate? because he doesn't have the kind of subpoena power that a special prosecutor would have. >> well, he will have subpoena power and-- >> he will. >> and he'll be able to prosecute. yes. the inspector general is working on a report that is due out in april and we're very hopeful that he, working with the inspector general, will make substantial progress in this area. so we're reserving judgment on his work. david: i see. >> but, again, we think that ultimately a special prosecutor would be needed and would be
best. david: but if mr. hoover can deliver subpoenas, what is it that he can't do that a special prosecutor could do? >> well, he-- what he can't do is what you mentioned and that is he can't be outside of the department of justice. he is a presidential appointee, confirmed by the united states senate. in fact, appointed first by president obama and then reappointed by president trump. so, he has that form of independence, but he still is a part of the department of justice and that, i think, is a difficulty unless he steps up and shows us that he's willing to take on anybody here, including former senior employees of the federal bureau of investigation. david: now, you folks in congress are doing a lot of investigation yourselves and getting a lot of material and we're reporting as much of it as you give us, but i'm just wondering if you have been stonewalled. have there been individual moments where you've tried to get something from the
department of justice or the fbi or even the state department regarding these matters and have hit a brick wall? >> well, we started out last fall. congressman tray gowdy and i handled a number in 2016 and 2017 and at first it seemed as though we were going to be getting the documents we needed, but that slowed down, particularly as some of the information came out through the page struck text, for example, that showed an extreme amount of bias on the part of a number of people at the higher levels in the federal bureau of investigation, a very serious matter, and things came down to a trickle. so, we issued a subpoena last week and i think that the department, the attorney general is very upset about this. i think that action is being taken to increase that production and i think that the subpoena, which is due next
thursday, will be honored, but we'll wait and see. david: now, we talked at the opening about how mr. mccabe is-- we're beginning to understand more about why it was that mr. mccabe was fire, the deputy fbi director, the media portrayed it as a one-man firing, that is president trump didn't like him so he had him fire. and in fact, we're finding out there were numerous occasions during which mr. mccabe gave conflicting information about his own experience at the fbi. in fact, one of which concerns mr. comy, his boss, which mccabe said he got permission to release or leak some things to the press because mr. comey was aware of it, whereas mr. comey says he wasn't aware of it. >> many people have now seen the conflicting statements made by mr. mccabe and the former testimony of mr. comey, and one
of this is an investigation that congress is conducting and mr. hoover should be looking into and inspector general horowitz as to who is telling the truth. david: it's difficult to come to the essence of, especially when both parties are antagonistic to people like you and the president, frankly. finally, we touched on this, there is an entrenched bureaucracy, i've seen it all over washington, i've seen it in the state department and department of justice. name the agency and you'll see an entrenched bureaucracy. would you go so far as to call that a deep state? >> well, i wouldn't go that far. let's be clear, there are tens of thousands of people in the federal bureau of investigation who every day work very hard, very professionally to keep us safe, fight crime. prevent terrorist attacks like they did last week in austin, texas with the bomber down there. so, this is about a small number
of people. we don't know exactly how many and that, again, is the purpose of the investigation. we keep getting material that's redacted that has names in it that are blocked out and we need that material unredacted so we can find out the extent of what was going on in 2016 when the fbi in an astonishing manner conducted one investigation with regard to one presidential candidate, and bent over backwards not to prosecute her, and then launched another investigation where they definitely were leaning into it with insurance policies and secret plans. david: was that because they were taking sides, chairman? >> i am very concerned there were a number of people in key position at the fbi who were taking sides. david: chairman goodlatte, a lot of investigating left to be done. we wish you the very best at least for the next two days, jest enjoy the holiday. >> thank you, david. david: appreciate it. at 96 years young, will sister
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>> don't forget about the finals for the college basketball players. one of their fans is more famous. lauren simonetti has more on her inspirational story. >> sister jean is the sweetheart of march madness and she says she's having the time of her life, praying with the loyal ramblers, who are playing michigan tonight to make it to the championship game. she's been attending their practices and sent them encouraging e-mails, the team, the fans, the nation falling in love with the 98-year-old inspiration who won't let a broken hip slow her down. in fact, she shares this message. >> we had a little slogan that
we say, worship works and win. >> worship, work and win, would he could all live by that. sister jean has been a phenomenon and loyola is wracking up sales of her merchandise. they' they're opening up pop shup shops for stars, and the bobblehead. and there's a bobblehead hall of fame museum and they've been sold in all 50 states and more than two-thirds of sales come from outside of illinois where the team is located. we do have some bad news for you, the bobbleheads won't be ready until june if you'd like to place an order. they cost about $35, but i'm sure for a couple of hundred you can get one on ebay, david. david: probably. better late than never, why care if it's after the final four. she was asked whether god really cares about basketball.
she says because god cares about the whole health of a human being and because play is an element of the human experience, god cares about play. very logical. i love this woman, love her. >> that was great. david: all right. well, thank you very much, lauren. now, the sit com "roseanne" shocking hollywood with an epic comeback. the show which features her pro-trump character has a lot of folks wondering if this success will set a new conservative trend in tinseltown. >> even look at roseanne, i called her yesterday, look at her ratings. look at her ratings. they were unbelievable. over 18 million people. prudential asked these couples: how much money do you think you'll need in retirement? then we found out how many years that money would last them. how long do you think we'll keep -- oooooohhh! you stopped! you're gonna leave me back here at year 9? how did this happen? it turned out, a lot of people fell short, of even the average length of retirement. we have to think about not when we expect to live to,
>> oh, please! . david: it's actually a pretty good show that night. well, things are looking rosie for roseanne. the show reboot already getting picked up for a second season after just one episode, or actually two episodes in one hour. turning out more than 18 million people tuned in, making it tv's b biggest this year. and will roseanne's success make hollywood think twice about the constant anti-trump narrative. let's ask conservative actor. >> good to see you, david. david: happy holidays to you. >> happy passover and easter. david: that's right, passover easter. there was a time when hollywood executives didn't care about red or blue, they just cared about green, but recently they seem to be more just on one side than caring about the bottom line, am i wrong? >> no, david, you're not wrong, but there is a little addendum do that.
hollywood had always had its certain kind of left-wing leaning, they always had that, that was always there. not so much probably in the '70s and '80s, but for the last at least 50 years it's gotten a lot worse and i think the roseanne show, as you've been showing the clips up, as we've seen had massive ratings. it's about being able to communicate to the american people, something that's happening around their living rooms, instead of it being the left and right coast, new york and l.a., the group think of l.a. and new york, and talk amongst themselves and they're programming according to what they have around their conversations, forgetting there's a whole group of people in the country forgotten. david: if that's true and i'm sure it is, did the success, the extraordinary success that absolutely did not include a lot of people in l.a. and new york, who turned roseanne off because they knew it was going to be a pro trump element to it, must
have shocked people. >> i think it had. i know that that next morning over the offices, people are chagrinned in a certain way about what was happening or what happened there and now scrambling, you've heard the last man standing may be brought back, the tim allen show. david: tim allen show. >> yeah, and i think it's also, you know, you see, most of the programming on tv that you see is absolutely bent for a certain kind of society, and without being able to expand on what's happening in the rest of the country so they had to look at that, hollywood had to look at that. david: it took them so long to wake up to this all of this. they had these awards shows one after the other and finally by the oscar awards which were just so anti-trump and so predictbly anti-trump and not real that funny in being anti-trump, getting terrible ratings. it seemed pretty obvious to most people that weren't politically
inclined, it's not funny, i'm not interested and it's not about what it's supposed to be about. but have they finally woken up? are we going to see award shows, for example, that won't be so predominantly anti-trump? >> you know, david, that's very difficult, very difficult because-- or to predict because there are certain very influential elements that bleeds down through the rest of hollywood because it's a job, it's hiring, it's also, it's a mindset or a world view the antithesis to what america has been. how silent was hollywood been on the meeting with kim jong-un and that's on purpose, these guys are very smart, quick with the media, with the so-called fake
news media, propagating, i guess, an ideology they want forward. it's going to be difficult and continue to be difficult. now-- roseanne-- >> we don't have much time. i've got to ask you, what do conservatives like you do when you're confronted by this? i mean, why do you still bang your head against the wall in l.a. trying to break down this one-sided view of the world? >> well, it's so necessary. i mean, if we don't, it's the responsibility we have. it's educating, it's-- you know, giving a different point of view. if we had just one side and we didn't go up against it, you know, back in the 50's, sterling haden was the head of the communist party in america, he was the actor in the godfather. ronald reagan crashed a party at an actress's house, big actress of the day that they were having for the communist party and it
was john garfield when reagan wanted to speak, it was john garfield who said, they were shouting him down, let him speak and a different point of view. and later on sterling haden called ronald reagan a one-man wrecking crew. we have to have voices out there and who knows what's going to break through and influence and affect a different point of view. david: you say who knows. who knew it was going to be roseanne, her new show, that may be the break through. it didn't take long, like a day after the ratings were announced you heard the news that the show was going to get a full run and they picked up on that pretty quick. >> and don't forget, roseanne did a pilot last year or two years ago that didn't go. so there's something that shi t shicht-- shifted and she had the pulse and the producers, again, it's
showing both sides. i don't mind them programming, but let's show both sides. let's find out where it is, where america is, not just left and right coast. david: and it's a wonderful change to see that, a breath of fresh air. roseanne tweeted out what's going on with the show. she says anyone who watches roseanne should see we know life is a struggle for most americans and it didn't get easier during the 20 years we were off the air. let's face the issues we have in common and help our families, neighbors, and leaders pull together towards solutions, please. and that's what she seems to be saying on talk shows, it's not so much that she's pro trump, it's just that she wants america to succeed. that's kind of a nice change. >> well, that's how it should be, you know? i mean, roseanne always had an everyman appeal, every-woman appeal when she first showed up on the scene. a friend of mine managed her early on in her career and i remember them talking about her
when they first found her, an essence that cut through a political correctness and here we have 20 years later, reemerging again as a cultural force and i think it's wonderful. about bringing us together as a nation, which we have to do. david: yeah. i've got to say though, i think it's too early on, i mean, one success doesn't mean that we've seen a sea change in terms of the way hollywood deals with things, so, i think we're going to have to see something beyond just what happened with the roseanne show, don't you? >> oh, absolutely. i mean, that's the-- believe me, it's a successful show, but it's going to take a lot longer, it's going to take a force of nature and a continued dialog from the higherups. that calls for people like norman lear and clint eastwood and really shall the elite of hollywood to get together with opposing points of view to talk about this and bring our country together.
i wrote several articles about that a couple of years ago, please, bring us together and these are elder statesmen that have the power to call up each other and say, you know what? enough of this, let's sit down in a room and discuss how we can move our country forward. david: right. >> and you know, 'cause i don't have that kind of clout. david: you mentioned the '60s and '70s and i'd go back further, frank capra, a director in the 30's and 40's. >> yeah. david: who basically nobody knew exactly how he voted, some people thought he was democrat, but he could have been republican. he talked about american values and got all of his films. it doesn't matter whether you're a democrat or a republican, you watch "mr. smith goes to washington" or a movie like that and it gets goose bumps because it reminds what makes this country great and to have folks in hollywood emphasize the great things about this country and use that wonderful artistic form that they have to play with, known as film, in order to do
that is a wonderful thing. you don't have to be one side or the other to do that, do you? >> no, you don't have to be and you know, frank capra became catholic or more of a devout catholic later on and he was a sicilian from italian immigrant family, "a wonderful life", a classic, when i first came out it was not successful, the film with jimmy stewart, a classic. and it was not. they called it capricorn because he had certain american values and he understood that and he was involved deeply when the bank of america helped the earthquake victims in san francisco at the turn of the century. so, it's a very interesting dilemma that we have here, culturally and we keep pushing a certain kind of edge. you know, david, this is so important because they want to talk about the violence in schools. now, when i grew up, there was a
moment of silence, there was prayer in school. whatever you wanted to pray to, but there was-- and this was a public school. there was pledge of allegiance, we were taught respect for our elders and our teachers and authority. even if the authority was wrong at times, our films, our video games, the violence in our society that hollywood-- and i've done films, i've shot many people in movies. i've thrown a lot of guns and a lot of punches. so the violence is in that society and i have friends of mine from astona and latvia and haven't had the cultural experience that we've had over the last 40 years and they're getting it now so who knows what's going to happen in terms of their society if there's going to be a different kind of violence that's propagated. by the way-- >> that's another issue that hollywood has to look at. david: is there a place where conservatives get together? there are other conservatives in los angeles and hollywood, in the industry. i can think of a couple of doctors who i won't name, who
are pretty well-known and a couple of producers, but is there a group of you guys that get together, like the catacombs in ancient rome when the christians were being purse persecuted or you never know who is who? >> there used to be a sort of conclave, you can say, but over the years now, it has kind of spread itself out and it's not really that way. it's more of an individual. and i won't name the actors that call me up and come to my house, and are afraid-- and name actors, name guys, and they'll come and we'll have a discussion of politics and get what's off their chest. and that's with everyone, a couple of organizations out there that do that. and there's a group that's been very vocal for many years, david horowitz' wednesday morning club and there are people there and you have other organizations that i won't mention because they don't want to be mentioned.
david: yes. but, one of the first ones in the hollywood community to come out and have a group. david: it's interesting recalling the communists back in the 50's. if you're called a conservative right now in hollywood, you could lose parts. we've got to leave it there. thank you very much for being here, appreciate it. >> david, great to see you. david: we'll be right back. stay with us. you know what they say about the early bird... he gets the best deal on the perfect hotel by using tripadvisor!
i believe we've got you on the line now. andrew, can you hear me? it's david asman. >> dave, how is it going? >> it's fine. tell me how you got involved with bikers down there. >> oh, it's not so much bikers, it's americans. you know what i mean? we're americans and we want our kids safe. every american wants it, it's not just bikers, it's everybody here. the whole community here. david: and are you making headway, andrew? i mean, that was clearly your message right from the beginning of this. >> yes. david: that we deal with a lot of political stuff later, but what we have to do now is keep our kids safe. have you made progress there? >> well, i don't know. i'm sitting here with some officers, are we making progress with the movement we've got going on, guys? >> yeah, we're making big progress. it's not a political message, that's why we're so busy right now. it's not a political message, it's a message of we want our kids safe. you know, and there's no--
everybody wants their children safe, so that's what's great and there's got to be a few, a couple thousand people here. david: andrew, last week we saw these marches all over the country. a lot of them had a tendency to get very political. did that disappoint you? >> oh, you know, it's kids. so, what kids do doesn't really disappoint me. what we're doing is not political. it's nothing about being on the right or the left. my message is, we want our kids safe and it's a powerful message and there are thousands of people here supporting it and it's only the beginning that we're getting more done here than, i don't know what they did last week, but they brought awareness, but this is wonderful, everyone coming together for one thing and that's schools and keeping our kids safe. david: you talked about a lot of what you wanted to do and what we needed to do as a country when you were at the white house in february.
>> yes. david: i think we have-- i think we have that sound bite. could we play that, please? >> oh, you can play it, i haven't-- >> my daughter i'm not going to see again. she's not here and it stops and we all work together and come up with the right yeaed and that's school safety. it's not about gun laws right now, that's another fight, another battle. let's fix the schools, and then you guys can battle it out, whatever you want, but we need our children safe. david: now, andrew, when i look at that man and you were clearly-- look at the camera, by the way, andrew when you're talking to me, not necessarily the selfie. when i look at the man that was at the white house in february, you looked like the angry he is man in the world and you had every right to be so and now you look very different, you're more purposeful and you seem to have gotten a lot of the anger out. it's easter time and this is a time of when there's tremendous
forgiveness by fathers for people that mistreat their children. explain what happened. how you came to change the way you did? >> well, to tell you the truth, don't let-- don't let me-- don't let it kid you how i look, i'm pretty angry, you know what i mean? yeah, there's a bunch of people here, but inside i'm a lot more being angry, i'm going out there and fight for the kids and the grandparents and the parents that drop their kids off at school. so, it's not like-- many' not changed, that was just-- i spoke from the heart when i was at the white house and i speak from the heart and people feel it when i speak and that's why it's such an important message. david: what specifically, andrew, do you want us to do? i mean, there are a lot of people that aren't down there right now, what can the people watching do in order to help
everybody get their-- make sure their kids are safer now than in the past? >> sure, there's-- it's not a political message. this is a message of just being american and this is what the message is. we live in the greatest country in the world. we've got to protect our kids and people are forgetting we've got to protect our teachers, also. teachers, i met with a lot of teachers. they are worried they're going to school and they can't just worry about teaching science or math, they're worried someone is coming in the hallway and shoot them. you know, we failed as a society if we can't send our kids to school and teachers and they've got to worry they're going to get shot and that's my message. david: it's extraordinary that we can assure people are safe travelling at the airport. we had a couple of horrific hijackings after 9/11 and we changed the system all around so that we wouldn't be unsafe in the way that we previously were,
but these school shootings happened and we don't seem to be able to make our schools safe. i mean, if you can do it at airports, why can't you do it in schools? >> it's an easy answer. i can tell you why. if you shut the airlines down for a week there's billions of dollars lost to corporations. and business all over the world. when they kid my kill at the school, nobody loses a dollar. all of those kids and teachers, 17 people murdered, nobody lost a penny. so, that's your answer right there. it's the same thing with a football stadium or a concert. shut down the concert halls, shut down the nfl for a couple of weeks because there's a shooting at a stadium. >> right. >> billions of dollars, but when our kids get shot, no one loses anything, that's why, but now they've got me. david: andrew, we're not going to ignore your cause, not going to ignore what you're doing, unfortunately we had some technical difficulties which is
why we had to talk to you the way we're doing it now. >> not a problem. david: we wish you the best, andrew in that ride for meadow, god bless your daughter meadow. that will do it for cavuto live, as always, thanks for watching. have a wonderful easter. leland: president trump slamming california's governor for pardoning five the in california. and the president taking on amazon's jeff bezos and "the washington post." a busy morning. we're looking at what's behind the president's anger. elizabeth: and jeff sessions, deciding to avoid a second special counsel to investigate alleged trump bias at the department of justice and the fbi. we're going to get reaction from florida congressman francis rooney. leland: and as president trump tries to speed up much-needed reforms in the va. here is his physician, ronnie jackson,