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about the mistakes, we are doomed to repeat them. remember to tweet me your thoughts about the show. things you want us to cover on the show or just criticisms of raymond. that's all the time we have. shannon bream and the "fox news @ night" team are up next. coverage of all the breaking news. shannon. >> shannon: standing by for your met gala invitations next year? we will see what the theme is. >> laura: i can't wait. we will go together. >> shannon: i will see you on the red carpet, thank you very much. breaking news across the nation and around the world tonight. results are coming in from the first big primaries of the election season. who are the winners and what does it mean for the president's agenda? plus, with the stroke of a pen the president rewrites a huge part of the obama legacy. ed henry is breaking down the next move on iran and we will hear from a veteran and congressman who has been sounding the alarm about the regime for a long time. plus secretary of state mike pompeo touches down in pyongyang. he is there to meet once again with north korean leader kim jong un. we have a live report and we are
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getting new information on the fate of the three americans who have been detained there. hello and welcome to "fox news @ night," i'm shannon bream in washington. this is a huge news night. we will get to iran in a moment but first we are going to begin with the results of tonight's primary races with big midterm impact. three of the states had major republican senate contest that we are their life right now with coverage. mike tobin is in indiana. ellison barber in ohio but we start with peter doocy in west virginia for the latest from the senate primary that has been, we could say, rather colorful. >> very colorful, shannon. patrick morrissey the winner tonight. his pitch to voters had been that he was the only conservative in this contest and republicans tonight rewarded him with a chance to challenge democratic senator joe manchin in the fall, who he is already comparing tonight to senator chuck schumer. just now morrissey in a victory speech, morrissey is the attorney general and in a victory speech he thanked resident from for his tweet of
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support yesterday. it morrissey defeated congressman evan jenkins, who was also part of that presidential shout out and who was the target of more than a million dollars of negative ads ordered by democratic super pacs. third place tonight, don blankenship, the former called baron who tells me that the constant attention on his conviction for conspiring to violate mine safety laws was a real drag on his campaign. groups associated with the majority leader mitch mcconnell spent more than a million dollars on negative ads against the republican blankenship and now mcconnell's political team has already tweeted out an image of a smiling mcconnell that says thanks for playing. blankenship did talk to every person who wanted to talk to them at this party, very rare. also told me that he thinks the president's tweet telling voters in west virginia not to support them really hurt in the end. blankenship has no plans to call the attorney general morrissey to congratulate him on tonight's victory, but he does get some good news tonight, blankenship. his probation ends at midnight.
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shannon. >> shannon: thank you very much. let's check in now with the results in yet another key state. ellison. >> there were primaries in ohio tonight. the senate and gubernatorial races, no major surprises. democratic candidate richard cordray is going to challenge attorney general mike to wine in the gubernatorial race. he beat former congressman dennis kucinich. it was a battle of the left, cordray the more establishment, dennis kucinich the more progressive backed by the bernie sanders group our revolution. came under ties for his ties to the syrian government. a speaking fee he received from april regime group. in his concession speech tonight he called for democrats to take more progressive stances like $15 minimum wage and at least two years of free college, both the wind and cordray were favored to win tonight.
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they will face off against k-6. the trump endorsed care respect on my congressman will face off against incumbent democratic senator brown. one of the republican primary opponents is suing him for $1 million. mike gibbons says among other things he falsely accused him of being pro-choice and anti-trump. yesterday we spoke with gibbons and when he talked to us about that lawsuit he said no matter what happens today whether he won or lost he would still proceed with that lawsuit. that's the latest here in ohio. we will send it over to mike tobin in indiana with plenty of news there. >> hi, allison. with this very important senate seat republicans think they can give them a pickup come november. we now know who will be leading the charge on the republican side and that is the biggest bn mike brown. he branded his two opponents,
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both of them congressman as career washington insiders and improved that this momentum to elect outsiders is alive and well. >> you get guys like me, ron johnson, david purdue, others there, and we get enough of us there, i think we will actually start to solve some of these issues. >> the incumbent democrat joe donnelly was unopposed. a moderate pro-life democrat but he still has that d in front of his name in a place that donald trump won by 19 points. ron got a call from the vice president mike pence today. the two of them will meet in person and just a couple of days one president trump, vice president pence gather in indiana to rally the conservative base and try to pick up at sea. shannon, back to you. >> shannon: thank you very much. what happens next? now that president trump is fulfilling a major campaign promise announcing the u.s. is pulling out of the obama era
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iran nuclear deal which the president has called horrendous. one-sided, ridiculous and insane. >> it is clear to me that we cannot prevent an iranian nuclear bomb under the decaying and rotten structure of the current agreement. the iran deal is defective at its core. >> shannon: coverage tonight on donald diplomacy. monitoring secretary of state mike pompeo in pyongyang. and with potential breaking is about three americans being held by the rogue regime. benjamin hall live in jerusalem. reaction amid reports of new air strikes in syria, what's going on there? we will check in on that and we began with chief national correspondent ed henry with this major global story. good evening, ed. >> the president is declaring this is not just about ripping key points of the obama platform apart, it's about sending a message to the world that the oak entire obama doctrine of not following through on issues like the red line in syria officially
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over as the president declared america's enemies like iran now know the u.s. keeps its word. presidents democratic critics declaring he sent a much different signal today. undermining key allies like french president emmanuel macron who was just in washington lobbying to save the deal and also emboldening iran president who said he will negotiate with them on his own. if that doesn't work they will start enriching uranium more than ever before. the president fires back that if they go down that road it will face bigger problems than it's ever dealt with. clearly warning of the potential at least of u.s. military actions on top of the u.s. sanctions that will start back up in the next 90 days. here's ambassador john bolton, national security advisor a short time ago on fox. >> we are going to continue to work with the allies to do something effective about iran's malign influence in the middle east and not paper it over and pretend that we've
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actually stop them. >> the president got in them surprising air cover from a republican normally opposing him, senator ben sasse ben sasse from nebraska pointed out donald trump isn't ripping up a treaty, he is walking away from barack obama's personal pledge to an a half years ago. president obama made a bad deal with iran without support from congress. today president trump is pulling out of president obama's personal commitment. he doesn't need congress' support to do so. american foreign policy make lasting progress when it is led by the president, approved by congress and presented honestly to the american people. on that last point on the obama deliver getting support of congress, there was also a resolution of disapproval after the agreement was signed with iran and democrats like chuck schumer actually voted to disapprove the obama deal while schumer today blasted the president, charges it will make it harder to go after terrorist, more difficult to seal a peace deal with north korea, schumer and other senior democrats singing a different tune in 2015. watch. >> the deal does not end iran's nuclear program, it preserves
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it. >> i will be honest, i was skeptical going in. there's nothing that i read last night that alleviates my skepticism. >> i'm disappointed in this deal for all the reasons that have been brought up. >> shannon: i will support the motion for disapproval against this agreement. >> so much for the bromance between the president and his french counterpart. told the magazine in germany he doesn't think the president wants war but this could open pandora's box, which may be why the white house put out a very terse readout of a phone call between the two readers. it was too light for its of the two men spoke by phone and they "reaffirmed their shared commitment to peace and stability in the middle east." shannon. >> shannon: short and sweet on a day like today. ed henry, thank you very much. the saudis once supported the iran nuclear deal but tonight they say this report president trump's decision to walk away and to reinstate economic sanctions. in a statement to fox news, the saudi embassy says "the iranian regime took advantage of the economic benefits afforded by the lifting of sanctions and use
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them to continue its destabilizing activities in the region, especially by developing its ballistic missiles and supporting terrorist organizations in the region including hezbollah and the militias." benjamin hall joins us live from jerusalem with more reaction to me good morning there, benjamin. >> good morning, shannon. a very polarizing decision by president trump. world leaders all very quick to react on this. as you say countries in the region very supportive in general. saudi arabia and of course israel coming out in strong support of president trump's decision. at the same time you have european allies seemingly criticizing his decision. the first will be there to actually come out and speak openly with president prime minister benjamin netanyahu, it was of course him that let the pressure campaign to push for the u.s. to leave this deal, and effort with which culminated in a big reveal of secret iranian nuclear files. >> this is why israel thinks that president trump did an
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historic move and this is why israel thanks president trump for his courageous leadership, his commitment to confront the terrorist regime in tehran. >> next up it was president of iran. he insisted iran was not violating the deal and said despite the u.s. decision they would stay in it and continue to talk to europe, russia and china. he also warned iran would always prevail. translator >> it was not for tho announce its withdrawal from the deal. it was a multilateral and international agreement. >> there had also been all that pressure campaigned by european leaders who had done a lot of trade with iran since the deal in 2015 and today they said in a joint statement that they regretted the president's decision and would try to stay in an improvement. both the u.s. and europe at odds
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on this. interesting to see how that plays out. also coming out and saying that they are concerned about stability in the region but countries here in general in the region supportive of the president's decision. shannon. >> shannon: we've been hearing reports about an attack in syria, what can you tell us about that? >> absolutely. this happened just within an hour of president trump making his announcement and we have yet to get all the details. it broke first on israeli and syrian tv and what we gather is there was a strike just south of damascus which targeted either iranian depots or rocket launchers. it happened in a place that has been reported to be the site of an iranian military base in syria and there will reports last year that it has been increasing in size. it was iran's growing presence in syria that was one of the major problems and concerns here so this seems to be a retaliatory strike against that and we will bring you more details when we get that. we gather maybe nine people killed there. whether or not they are iranian
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revolutionary guard we don't know. that is the sort of thing that could escalate this very quickl quickly. >> shannon: 's benjamin hall for us in jerusalem. thank you very much. secretary of state mike pompeo was in pyongyang tonight as he prepares to meet once again with north korean leader kim john on, renewing hope tonight that three american hostages could soon be released. we are standing by for that. joins us live. >> secretary of state arrived a few hours ago to a hotel to begin meetings with north korean government officials to set the conditions for a summit between president trump and the north korean north korean dictator kim jong un. north korea is also holding three american citizens and now south korea's news agency citing a south korean presidential official reports north korea is expected to release those americans as a goodwill gesture. state department refuses to comment. secretary pompeo says he's unsure who he will even meet in north korea. when he last traveled to pyongyang easter weekend he
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spoke directly with kim jong un. pompeo said during that trip he mostly confirmed the interest in meeting the president and discussed the basic outlines of the summit. secretary says on this visit he hopes to pin down the location, duration and exact venue of the summit. the senior state department official says the u.s. wants north korea to confirm it has changed its approach since january. that's when kim declared he would mass-produce warheads and the means to deliver them. the official also notes that only about a year ago kim used a chemical weapon to assassinate his half-brother. there are also concerns north korea is trying to push u.s. defenses off the korean peninsula to then unify the country under kim's leadership. with all that the official says the administration understands the risks in dealing with north korea and that the united states refuses to relieve sanctions until north korea disarms. one official says the u.s. is looking for bold steps and anything less would be repeating the mistakes of the past. pompeo lands in pyongyang shortly after kim jong un's
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diplomatic travel meeting with chinese president in the northeastern chinese city. china makes up about 90% of north korean trade and is its most significant ally. >> shannon: he actually flew instead of taking a special train this time. something different. thank you very much. former president barack obama had this to say about president trump's decision to pull the u.s. out of the iran deal. "leaving the agreement could embolden an already dangerous regime, threaten our friends with destruction, pose unacceptable dangerous to america's security and trigger an arms race in the world's most dangerous region." let's get reaction from republican congressman and veteran from florida brian matz, on a house foreign relations committee among other things. good to have you want. what you have to say about what president obama said? >> i think they were just flat-out wrong. you look at the last eight years. the previous administration, it's like they suffered from
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some chamberlain syndrome where if they could ignore or a p.r. enemies enough that somehow our enemies would disappear or go away and that's simply not true. after that they were emboldened. you saw the iranian revolutionary guard on the banks of israel. you see what they've done in yemen attacking our navy vessels, taking our sailors hostage. you've seen the things that have gone on since then, they've become more involved in. >> shannon: what you make of this? i know that you and your time in the army among other things you were a bomb attack but you also were trained with regard to nuclear weaponry. >> that's right. >> shannon: what do you make about the obama administration says and what former secretary of state john kerry has been not saying this guard rails on them to stop them from moving forward and taking away the deal takes away those protections? >> that's not the reality of the situation. they needed three things to develop a nuclear weapon. the material to do it, a delivery system, an icbm or whatever delivery system to deliver wherever they want and they needed the money to do it. people should ask themselves why is it that this is technology
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that the united states of america was able to develop in the 1940s, the delivery systems by the '50s and 60s and iran still hasn't developed it to this day? they haven't had the materials that they needed. they haven't had the technology, they haven't had the money that they needed to go out there and develop these systems. we loosen the restrictions on them to develop those delivery systems, those ballistic missile systems. we allow them access to the world stage in terms of being out there to go and sell their oil in the world stage. we allow them to colonize the middle east and exploit the resources throughout the region. we are giving them all the tools that they need and now the last piece that we've given to them was all i have to do is wait out enough time and they will have all the material they need to go out there and put it on the end of the warhead. >> shannon: today reaction from iranian president saint -- quoted as saying this on state television there saying he had ordered iran's atomic energy organization to prepare for unlimited uranium enrichment in the event the government decides to withdraw from the pack. they say the europeans are still
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part of this, we are not leaving the pact, but if we decide to we are ready to fire the stuff right back up. >> that's what we've known from the very beginning. all the information that the prime minister put out there, that the iranians were cheating from the very beginning. they weren't an honest broker when they were negotiating this with carrie, they weren't upfront about what their true intentions were within nuclear program. that's everything that was put out there and that information that president trump was referencing, so we know they are ready to fire this program up and they were ready to cheat on the program while they weren't letting inspectors into their facilities where we knew they would probably be developing the systems. >> shannon: many of our european allies have urged the president to stay, try to better it from being still engaged with it. emmanuel macron's tweet today says france, germany and the u.k. regret the u.s. decision to leave the agreement. the nuclear nonproliferation regime is at stake. what does this do for our relationship with our allies no now? >> it makes it a little bit more
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tenuous. i don't think anyone should deny that, but we have to be able to come to a realization that you don't make peace with your enemies. you negotiate peace with former enemies and iran is not any kind of former enemy. we shouldn't have been making that kind of negotiation with a nation that's willing to go out there and attack our service members on the battlefield. they were the ones that were out there placing improvised explosive devices, lacing them with nuts and screws and bolts with a couple of holes in u.s. service members. they were the ones that were out there giving the technology to the iraqis on explosively formed projectiles and weaponry that could rip through our humvees. they were the ones out there beating the aggressors. they were not a former enemy and we shouldn't have been trying to negotiate with them. >> shannon: we thank you for your service and you know firsthand and now and capitol hill as well. what two primary results mean for the president? steigerwald breaks down the results and how the fight to control the senate is shaping up. what we are learning tonight. the hawaii volcano still causing
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>> shannon: in a tweet earlier this week president trump told west virginians to remember alabama and how a controversial candidate there hurt the g.o.p. perhaps they did because it does
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not look good for the one man the president told voters not to back, don blankenship. fox news politics editor chris stirewalt is at the fox news decision desk in a big new york primary night. it's not new york, you are in new york. it's a big primary night and a lot of other states. we we will get to new york eventually. it looks like the attorney general was going to pick up the win and west virginia. how does he do against current senator joe manchin? >> he's a tough out. there certainly a lot of ways republicans can run against joe manchin, but i will put it this way, how this race plays out is going to depend on a couple of things. number one is how much does donald trump want to get involved in this race? morrissey will need help from trump. he will meet trump to come and campaign for him. he will lead him to come hard against mansion, who is someone that you know the president wants cultivated as a possible cabinet pick. the other side is this how does joe manchin play this? we saw tremendous enthusiasm on the democratic side to make it was not much of a race.
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manchin got 70% of the vote against liberal environmentalists was rubble running against him. the turnout on the democratic side was higher than it was on the hotly contested republican side. manchin has to figure out how can he suck up to trump without alienating too many parts of his base. he's got to figure out the way to play this one. >> shannon: i know when you know having spent a great deal of time in west virginia i've never seen a more popular politician across party lines. there's a lot of love for joe manchin there. before we go on that because i want to get the other two states, i think we may have this tweet that was put up by teammates, a twitter account that is linked to his official senate run. thanks for playing, at don blankenship. there's some powder there. i don't want to get into that, i don't know is happening. but it's gotten really ugly between these two. blankenship has said all along i'm going to take on the establishment, that's why you send me. he has been after mcconnell left and right 100% of the time. what you make of that tweet?
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>> mitch mcconnell is not -- and his organization not afraid to name and claim and you might not say it, but i will. he called him cocaine mitch because of a story that related to his father-in-law's shipping line. a rather long pole and mcconnell is taunting there. his campaign staff is taunting there. >> shannon: can we do lightning rod because i want to get to indiana. former state representative beating up to former members. >> super trump. mike braun, rokita and messer humiliated each other and themselves, a pitiful undertaking by both of them in a savage, disgusting campaign. it was horrible to watch. they hurt their party, they hurt each other and they let the guy, they let the other guys skate through. they let the other guy who was supposed to be an also ran skate through while the two of them engaged in this conduct and let republican and other states be
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warned, if you carry on like rokita and messer did, particularly rokita you will end up outcomes like this and you will give democrats opportunities to hold on to see if they otherwise might lose. >> shannon: candidates who were backed who were not opposed by trump are doing well tonight and that's true in ohio. >> brown is not in the kind of trouble that joe manchin or joe donnelly are. brown is going to be hard to beat. for sure. there was the president's candidate pulling through. donald trump got his way into of the three races tonight. in the third case, we will see, who knows. >> shannon: chris stirewalt, take a nap and come back to d.c. see you soon. thank you. what do executives from at&t and novartis have in common with a new york hedge fund trader with ties to a russian oligarch? a lot to unpack. a quarter to the lawyer for an adult film performer they've all got ties to president trump's personal attorney michael cohen.
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stay quiet about an alleged affair with donald trump, russian oligarch paid $500,000 to essential consultants, that's michael cohen's company. avenatti says the 500,000 might have been used to reimburse him for the $130,000 he paid stormy daniels, but the $500,000 actually came from an american company called columbus nova. it is true their biggest client is at a company controlled by victor but columbus nova says "after the inauguration the firm hired michael cohen as a bigness consultant regarding potential sources of capital and potential investments involving real estate and other ventures." it reports that they used them as a conduit are false. neither victor nor anyone else outside of columbus nova were involved in the decision to hire him or and provided funding for
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his engagement. yet tonight on cnn avenatti said family ties are at the heart of the connection between columbus nova and victor luxemburg. >> you have the ceo, cousin of the russian oligarch, who is also russian. what's the explanation for the half a million dollars worth of payments? >> "the new york times" says a few months ago he was stopped at the new york area airport by agents working for robert mueller. he reportedly had his electronic devices searched and was interviewed about the payments to michael cohen. yet while colin is under criminal investigation by federal prosecutors in new york, victor isn't facing charges, nor is he a suspect, but he was among the rich russian businessmen sanctioned by the trump administration. attorney robert barnes thinks avenatti getting illegal
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information and that he's connecting dots that don't exist. watch purity >> he's trying to connect through 6 degrees of separation something that is not connected to create the innuendo of impression of a scandal that doesn't exist except in the context of his case. >> we should note the company reportedly gave him $400,000 and at&t confirms it also paid him $200,000 to learn more about how the administration plans to operate. shannon. >> shannon: trace gallagher live in l.a. thank you very much. ♪ time now for where in the world. russia will feature its new robo tank during tomorrow's moscow victory day parade. the event commemorates the 73rd anniversary of victory over germany in world war ii. according to russia's defense ministry the tank can be operated by a commander up to 2 miles away and has already been used by russian forces in syria.
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in germany 800 police officers cracking down on human smuggling by a far right group with links to neo-nazis. at least 35 illegal immigrants were found during rates in homburg. it refuses to recognize the post-world war ii political system. turkish president sound enough against some 300 well-known french personalities. they are calling for passages of the koran to be removed in response to rising anti-semitis anti-semitism. calling the french celebrities and political figures despicable and accusing them of attacking scriptures sacred to muslims. information warfare over cia dominique gina haspel, president trump's pick to lead the agency, the white house has its talking points but somebody else is unveiling classified documents about her alleged role in waterboarding. we got a preview of what she's expecting to say about torture and a hearing before the senate tomorrow and ben shapiro is here to weigh in. what he's got to say about this
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controversy. good to see you. >> over the last few hours we got our hands on some sections of her opening statements and she's planning on addressing the waterboarding issue head on. she will promise can senators if confirmed with the cia will not restart that controversial program but will those words be enough to convince democrats to vote for her? >> president trump's pick to lead the cia gina haspel back on capitol hill today meeting with some of the democratic senators who will likely determine her fate like senator ron wyden. he's one of the members of the senate intelligence committee urging the cia to declassify documents about her role in the agency's post-9/11 enhanced interrogation program, documents the committee members have access to but the public does not. >> i think there really is a prospect of this setting a very ominous precedent. if this is allowed to go forward and what i have called a secret confirmation process, it sure as
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heck won't be the last. >> for other democrats on the committee running for reelection, their vote could have real impact on whether or not they will be returning to washington. senator jon tester from montana is facing stiff republican opposition in the midterms, he said today he is a "no" because he's not a huge fan of waterboarding. something haspel briefly oversaw as cia backed site. that controversial period over 32 years as a covert operative will be front and center at tomorrow's hearing and it's something haspel is planning to address in her opening statement. "having served in a tumultuous time, i can offer you my personal commitment clearly and without reservation that under my leadership the cia will not restart such an interrogation program." it was viewed as releasing cia documents with the effectiveness of now the defunct interrogation program.
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in 2002 cia officials determined that "it is highly unlikely subject has any actionable new information about threats to the united states, yet they continue to "maintain the current level of psychological pressures anyway. >> tomorrow she will likely be asked lots of questions about her thoughts on waterboarding and other enhanced interrogation techniques. does she believe they are effective and what exactly was her role in drawing up orders to destroy videotapes documenting the cia's use of those techniques? it all starts tomorrow morning 9:30 a.m., must watch tv here in washington. >> shannon: i think we will have popcorn for breakfast. this is going to be a good hearing. >> it is. i put it up there with zuckerberg. >> shannon: we will watch it. you will watch it. thanks for the preview. her record front and center tomorrow. she pledges not to restart the most controversial aspects of the cia's enhanced interrogation program. let's talk about it with our panel. syndicated radio host richard
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fowler and daily wire editor in chief ben shapiro. great to have you both here tonight. there has been opposition from the left and the right. let's talk about that. senator rand paul, who has said there's no way he's going to vote for her has said this in an op-ed. there's no question that during her career haspel participated in and helped develop the program that our own government has labeled torture. further, multiple accounts discuss our involvement in destroying video documentation of the torture programs. he says direct participation in the program itself would be disqualifying enough for me but appointing someone who also helped push for destroying evidence destroying one of the most powerful organizations in the world should not be acceptable to congress. then connect >> this seems to me a dramatic mystery. if you're going to rule out anyone who was working at the cia at the time this is going down and who was going along with the waterboarding -- members of congress, democrats and republicans both approved at the time. people in the cia across the board were involved in this
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program so if you are trying to spot somebody was working at the cia, that's going to be a real short list. the question now is this is against the law. she says that she recognizes it's against the law. i see no evidence to suggest she's going to buck the law and randomly start waterboarding people. and wondering what exactly the objection to haspel particularly is when she obeyed the law at the time and now she will presumably continue to obey it now that has changed. >> shannon: we have a letter signed by a number of intelligence agency past and current leaders. unbiased intelligence to policymakers no matter how difficult the situation. it's truly telling that a broad spectrum of national security leaders from both republican and democratic administrations have voiced unequivocal support for her nomination. director john brennan and former james clapper. both of them in the obama administration. they say she's got our seal of approval. >> they can continue to say that but it doesn't take away from
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the fact that she was involved in torture and i think that's the larger point here. the argument that's being made, the people above her told her to do it so she did it doesn't take away from the fact that she actually engaged in torture on top of running one of these black sites where the torture was taking place. here's what we know. the army manual says that torture is actually an ineffective way to get intelligence because most of the time the person you are interrogating and supplying anyway so they can stop the pain that's happening to them. but that's beyond the point. here's what we also know, we as americans have never subscribed to torture, from the beginning of the country to today. this is not how we live our lives. this is not the city up on the hill that we are trying to be, so by appointing her and voted her to be the head of the cia you are codifying torture as part of the agency. that's problematic. >> shannon: not if she has rebuked that and said she will not take part in it anymore. the accept that we have she is actually set in no way is she going to restart that program and to the point of whether it was any good, the obama justice
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department and two federal judges actually ruled that there was life saving intelligence that was gathered by these black sites under the cia. that's in the past. it's enough of an assurance for you to say she's not going to restart it should she become director? >> it is for me. she would be violating the law if she did not. if she suddenly started disobeying an waterboarding people at random then she would be in violation of the law. i'm really weirded out by the conflation between the two issues, one is is waterboarding that n2 is is anybody who participated and that therefore bad? these are not the same issues. even if you believe anybody who participated is bad. virtually everyone approved it at the time. it did end with actionable intelligence. even if you assume that waterboarding is a terrible horrible thing, the real question now is, is anyone who participated in that when it was the law of the land barred from the office? if that's the case, everybody in congress and about this program, everybody in the cia, everybody
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is barred from offense. >> here's the problem, over and over again the cia and other organizations which the trump administration because the deep state, there were people who break the law, engage in quarter. >> shannon: at the time it was -- they had legal guidance that this was appropriate. if that's what they are told at the time they can't be told -- come on, now. we are not going to compare the two situations. at the time she was not saying i know this is wrong, i'm going to do it anyway and i don't care that i'm breaking the law. she had been given guidance and you've heard condoleezza rice just weeks ago saying i think it's really unfair for anybody who wasn't in our shoes in the days and months after 9/11 to now second-guess, especially when these people were told what they were doing was necessary and legal. >> does not -- for me the ends don't justify the means. that's where i'm with rand paul and a lot of republicans and also a lot of democrats who say that we as a nation, we as a
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judeo-christian nation should not believe in this ideal of torturing people and we should not codify a leader of the cia who engaged in this behavior whether or not she was ordered to do it, whether or not she did it because it was the law. it was wrong. >> shannon: so much of her -- you know what she's done, cannot we talk about publicly. we will see if these lawmakers get it. they have asked for more classified information to answer some of these questions about exactly what her role was. we may not find out but hopefully they do as they go through this hearing tomorrow. richard and ben, great to have both of you. the hawaiian volcano still causing a path of destruction as residents try to evacuate. the latest from the big island coming up. ♪ mum. boost optimum with 5 in 1 advanced nutrition helps support muscle, energy, bone, normal immune function, and vision. boost optimum. be up for life. before discovering nexium 24hr to treat her frequent heartburn, lucy could only imagine enjoying a slice of pizza. now it's as easy as pie.
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104 acres combined covered now in lava. the eruption is not monolithic, but rather there are several fingers of lava that takes some homes, but not others. we are in leilani estates. elsewhere, everything looks normal. as you can see, the lava flow has brought down the power lines, but look over here and you can see where it has moved literally right next to this poll and it has stopped just a few feet from this gentleman's house. this is 1 of 10 volcanic eruptions within the leilani estates. what geologists believe is happening is that the lake lava level up in kilauea has fallen about 700 feet in the last few days. now where is that magma going? they believe it's traveling underground and popping up here in this neighborhood. the concerning thing for residency here is their house may be her today, but maybe not tomorrow and they have no idea when this is going to end. right now, shannon, a lot of
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people are homeless. they don't have anywhere to go. some are staying with friends here but they are probably going to wear out their welcome soon. 250 at a nearby red cross shelter. insight. several more sleeping outside in their cars. at least there is food there. some people are headed back to the mainland because they don't know how long this is going to last and if they will even have a house to go back to. >> shannon: william, thank you very much. more news right after this break. ♪ co on every dollar they spend at thousands of hotels. all you have to do is pay with this... at 10 miles per dollar? that is incredible. brrrrr. i have the chills. because you're so excited? because ice is cold. and because of all those miles. obviously. what's in your wallet? i'm not sure. what's in your wallet? ♪ ♪ ♪ raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens ♪
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