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another robot raccoon just attacked people in georgetown. with that in mind, enjoy time with your family this weekend. continue to tune into the show. have the best weekend. sean hannity from new york city is next. ♪ >> i am announcing today that the united statesod will withdrw from the iran nuclear deal. america will not be held hostage to nuclear blackmail. >> we are putting the harshest, strongest, most stringent sanctions on iran. ♪ [dramatic music plays] >> the fact we were able to get them out so soon was a tribute
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to a lot of people including i a certain prospect taking place right now. >> june 12th, and singapore, i'll be meeting with kim jong ue of peace and security for the world, for the whole world. we are going to set the table, we are going to make a great deal for the world, for north korea, for south korea, for japan, for china. >> welcome to the special s edition of "hannity," trump's big week. i am jason chaffetz. without a break, over the past few days, we witnessed history in the making. from the middle east to the korean peninsula, right here at home, this week the trump administration suck consequence all progress all over the world. starting on tuesday, president trump rolled the
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united states out of the one-sided, highly flawed iranian nuclear deal. >> the iranian regime is the leading state sponsor of terror. the deal allowed iran to continue in enriching uranium and overtime, reach the brink of a nuclear breakdown. this disastrous deal gave this regime -- and it's a regime of great terror -- many billions of dollars, some of it an actual cash. today, we have definitive proof that this iranian premise was a lie. therefore, i am announcing today that the united states will withdraw from the iran nuclear deal. >> jason: up next come on wednesday, more major progress in the middle east. according to reports, american and iraqi intelligence forces captured five senior members of isis including the top aide to the islamic state leader abu
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paul carr all blocked out they also sought major push for fori piece of my korean peninsula. early thursday morning, our prayers were answered. three americans longed held captive in north korea were landed at joyce bean andrews. now president trump's senate with kim jong unun is moving forward. last night at a rally in indiana, he previewed his historic upcoming meeting. take a look. >> on june 12th, and singapore, i'll be meeting with kim jong un to pursue a future of peace and security for the world, for the whole world. you remember everybody in the fake news when they were saying, he is going to get us into a nuclear war. he is good going to get us into a nuclear war. [boos] you know what gets you into nuclear w wars? you know what gets you into
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other wars? weakness. weakness. i think it is going to be a very big success. my attitude is, if it isn't, it is in, okay? if it isn't, it isn't. but, you have to have that because you don't know. we a are not going to be walked into an iran deal where the negotiators, john kerry, refused to leave the table. [boos] obama, president obama -- [boos] paid 1.8 billion for the hostages. [boos] you, not me, you come out last you saw, and again, it's leading to some very big things, and i think that kim jong un,
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kim jong un did a great service to himself and to his country by doing this. but those hostages came out with respect, we didn't pay for them. we are going to set the table. we are going to make a great deal for the world, for north korea, for south korea, for japan, for china! >> jason: joining us now the reaction is fox news national security strategist sebastianan gorka. gopac chairman david avella and former obama economic advisor austan goolsbee. gentlemen, thank you for joinin us. austan, ire want to start with you. the president deserves some credit, doesn't he? capturing isis leaders? all good developments.
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>> those two, i not only have no problem, i think he does deserve credit and i just don't want him to get to the united states into an unnecessary war and if you look at korea, he's got some unconventional diplomacy, and thus far it seems to be working. i think he deserves applause for that. capturing isis leaders also, he deserves applause for that. the iran deal, i am sure we will getur into, i think all of our allies plus, by a two to one margin, the american people, to leave the mic believe it is a bad mistake to pulll out. >> i don't know where you come up with two callermac one. the number one thing you need to have is verification. we don't have that. you can't go anywhere to go verify. let me go to sebastian gorka. how do you see this iranian deal playing out and how do you -- what moves while they make next? speak it withinhi minutes of the president killing the jcpoa, as he had to, i wrote an "the hill," we now follow their north korea playbook. we use the pyongyang method. nikki haley, the state department, the president leading the way, we put the
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squeeze on north korea, and they caved, and they came to the negotiating table. we do exactly the same thing with iran and guess what, the europeans will follow the president's lead. we impose on them the toughest sanctions package the world is ever seen until they start c behaving like a normal country or a quasi-normal country once again. >> jason: david, the democrats democrats, this puts them in a box. they were so much flailing about what president trump was doing, you heard everybody saying it's going to lead to all this catastrophe but this -- how did the democrats -- i know you are with gopac, but how did the democrats react to this? >> we saw how they will react this week. s first, let's keep in mind that president trump made it a magnificent week for three american hostages and he made it a miserable week for chuck schumer. just as you pointed out, he has put chuck schumer in a box.
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all we can hear from chuck schumer is how bad this was that we got the hostages out. and austan talked about that two to one against a deal. well, one of the ones who didn't want to get in the deal, he will remember, chuck schumer, who did not want the iran deal in the first. place. now we don't know where he will be. in fact, chuck schumer has such a horribly -- you wonder if he's trying to get his own wing and the political hall of shame. it was disgraceful how he acted this week. >> jason: austan, let me given, you a chance to react. the republicans, from ronald reagan to donald trump, have always believed in peace through strength. what is it that the democrats actually believe in? >> wait a minute. here you are trying to change the subject off of donald trump, let's make it about chuck schumer, something a else. >> no, what do the democrats believe unless? >> democrats do not want us to get into a shooting war with the
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iranians. we already blew a $2 trillion -- >> jason: how do you do that? >> you have john bolton advocating very aggressive military style action against them. we have all of our allies, the people that we need to enforce sanctionsst against iran, that e had when we put in place the agreement, when we unilaterally pull out of the agreement, we now cannot convince the other trading partners of iran to oppose those sanctions. we can't put in place the top sanctions that will bring them to their knees. it's not possible. andow we are encouraging saudi arabia to now get into a nuclear arms race with iran. as they start building centrifuges and enriching uranium again, the saudis have to do the same. it's a very dangerous game to play. >> jason: sebastian gorka, let me go to you. also playing into this political hotbed is what is going on in jerusalem, as we make the move to make the capital -- to make
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the embassy there in jerusalem, how does this play into the whole dynamic in the middle eas middle east? >>ea it is a complete tectonic shifting of the geopolitics of the region. thanks to the president, thanks to the killing of the jcpoa iran deal, we have countries like saudi arabia that are now allies of israel. what austan said, about, this is going to result in war, you don't prevent a war by releasing $140 billion to a regime that is the biggest sponsor of terrorism in the world, and sign a deal with him that actually meansea they can get nuclear weapons after seven years. that is not how you prevent a war. i will tell austan right now on live television across the country, the european nations will follow our lead and they will join us in crippling sanctions. you can take that to the bank, austan. >> jason: do you think that is
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true? >> of course t it's not true. >> jason: what doo you think they are going to do? what will he do without the united states? >> when you say without the united states, they will commence trading with iran. >> no, they will not. >> you think they will stop and just watch the trade for -- >> jason: what austan finish that thought. i still haven't heard him answer the question, do you believe in peace through strength. s our allies in europe, relying upon the united states were pretty much everything in terms of safety and security, how can they not follow our lead and austan, i want you to dive into the opening up of our embassy in jerusalem. >> okay. you have two different ones going there. in my opinion, iran has already announced that they are going to recommence industrial style enriching of uranium is going to
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lead to a nuclear proliferation and arms race of other middle eastern countries. saudi arabia and iran are direct regional competitors. so if iran immediately starts trying to get a nuclear weapon again, the saudis will have to do the same. that is why all of our nato allies plus in the pulping of 2-1 majority of americans, all the democrats and a significant number of republicans think that the president has made a mistake doing this. now i'll applaud him on north korea. i think the president is doing a good job exploring diplomacy. with iran, we preemptively shot ourselves in the footage, and unfortunately i think we will see that playhe out. >> jason: i think you're totally wrong. i think it's an untraditional approach from donald trump come peace through strength, the world understands when donald trump speaks, he means business.e david, i want to give you a chance to weigh in on what's going on in jerusalem. thisal is a major move, a major
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shift, thexi proximity with syra and the iranians, how do you read that? >> another position that chuck schumer was for, as has every american president over the last couple of decades been for, moving the u.s. embassy to jerusalem. you know, listening to austan talk, it is not surprising, a position for the democrats, john kerry goes running over to iran to try to keep a deal going. it's almost like the schoolboy who kept giving money so he didn't get beat up by the bully and now he's running over and giving him more money to say, hey, don't tell people i was giving you money not to beat me up. this is absurd. the democrats position, we got to appease iran so they want to beat up people in the region. who's for us getting out of the iran deal? other middle eastern countries who don't want iran to be a nuclear threat and use it to threaten them. >> jason: gentlemen, thank you for this evening. i appreciate your insight.
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there's a lot more to discuss. we could do a wholew show on how outrageous john kerry's actions have been in the middle east, trying to undermine the strength of united states and with the president is trying to do in that region. gentlemen,n, thank you for joing us. coming up, kim strassel is out with a stunning new piece asking if the fbi planted a mall inside the trump campaign. plus, congressman trey gowdy and john ratcliffe join us. stay with us. ♪ hey! you know, progressive
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bureau engage in outright spying against the 2016 trump campaign? joining me now to explain more from "the wall street journal" as ther author of that piece, km strassel. thank you so much for joining us. give us a quick synopsis about what you found and why this is so pivotal and unusual. >> up until last week, all we knew was that house intelligence chairman devin nunes had initiated a new line of inquiry and was demanding new documents from the department of justice. then and their desire to make chairman nunes look bad to justify why they were not giving those documents, someone in the government leaked a lot of details about what was happening. it turns out he's asking about a top-secret government a source who has worked for the fbi and cia, a u.s. citizen, would seem to have some sort of entanglement with foreign intelligence agencies, maybe based overseas, and based on all those breadcrumbs and some
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reporting, i've got a pretty good sense of who it is, and it does look as though indeed there was an fbi attempt, successful one, to basically go out and spy with a human asset on the trump campaign. >> jason: what about the timing? the timing abouts all of this is critical. do we understand the timing? what are the implications for that? >> it is so important. remember, the fbi has been doggedly sticking with this story, that what initiated this counterintelligence probe was a tip they got in july about the suppose it drunken conversation of a junior campaign aide named george well, if, for any reason, we find out that this person, this asset of players, was in fact surveilling or spying on the trumpn campaign prior to that time, then they've got an issue, right? that is no longer their origin story, and they must have had something else that they were
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basing this on, whether it be the dossier or some other information that they were using as a reason to go out and surveilled the trump campaign. >> jason: how will we figure out the solution? every time trey gowdy, devin nunes, others go over to the department of justice, they get the stiff arm, even though there are subpoenas in place. how do they figure this out? >> we have a great piece in the journal today by a former fbi officer, his job was to fulfill congressional requests, talking about how obnoxious and outrageous it is that the department of justice is nothe complying with simple request, much less subpoenas. the fact that they did not give out the information to chairman nunes, h last year when he said he was investigating the fbi's contact, is really striking. congress, as a body, and the good news is chairman nunes looks to have the backing of all the leaders andip other membersn the republican party, make it
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clear that it's the department of justice not turning it over, they will move to contempt. with any luck, also, the white house is putting out the message that they need to cooperate and handover documents. >> jason: i thought the white house was actually backing up the department of justice at this point, weren't they? >> is interesting. the department of justice made quite a big deal in its letter to chairman nunes about how it has -- this is all up and out in consultation with the white house. but seriously, it didwn agree to sit down with chairman nunes. i think probably they have the order to accommodate him into se way. still trying to do it without getting out of having to hand out actualth documents. that is what chairman nunes and others are after, it would seem that is what they will need to hand over to fulfill that request. >> jason: as one who has been over the department of justice and sat in those meetings, and listened to these blowhards tell me how congress has no right to see this stuff, i got to tell
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you, it really is offensive. at what point does the constitution come into play? they give lip service to oversight. but here theyey are, leaking. it's well documented they are leaking. what is it that they think they can't and should not show to congress, the american people? >> you know this better than anyone. we have processes in place whereby congress gets to oversee the executive branch. they can't just say, give us everything. they have to have so specific cause, reason. this case, when those cases came up, the department of justice is always helping and been good about it. and we also have processes whereby in particular the gang ofgh eight, senior members of or intelligence community, the leadership, can see anything, classified so any arguments that this should be off limits are completely bogus and people should read them for what they are, an attempt by the
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department of justice and the fbi, it would seem, to protect something they simply don't want people to know because it might prove embarrassing. >> jason: that is of the heart of it. i gotta tell you, for my vantage point, having been there, every member of congress, both sides of the aisle, ought to be standing behind devin nunes and trey gowdy and john ratcliffe and those investigators that are going in there, senator grassley, kim strassel, a great piece in "the wall street journal," one of o the best writers out there. best reporters. thank you for joining us thanks for that great piece. also, yesterday, house intelligence chairman devin nunes and house oversight committee chairman trey gowdy went to the department of justice to view documents. they've been requesting and they were under subpoena for months. sources tell fox news that nunes and trey gowdy were only briefed about the documents and that another meeting is scheduled for them to see it with the best way to get the answers fact is someone who is in that meeting and that is chairman trey gowdy
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and congressman john radcliffe. both are former federal prosecutors, both have been in the system, both have been through this process, and i think you gentlemen for joining us on this beautiful friday night. chairman county, did you get a lot of lip service? did you read the documents? >>t jason, it was a really productive meeting yesterday. i think every question i asked the bureau and t the department, they understand the irrelevant, the material, they are so specific, pointed, and there's a reason why congress wants to know the answers to these questions. it was a really. constructive -- i know that is not good news for standpoint, that we hadha a boring, constructive meeting yesterday but that is exactly what it was. it was so constructive that we've agreed to meet next week. you ask if we saw something. i can learn with my ears and my eyes. yesterday was important because i got to hear the department's perspective but also got to ask questions, you're right, the
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prosecutors, and all the questions i ask in an investigation like this, and i need witnesses there that can answer them. yesterday was really productive. >> jason: when will you get to see them? >> well, let me say this. i worked in all three branches of government and there is tension, there has been tension. between the there are lots of things that have been in the judicial branch that members of congress can see. there are things that happened in the executive branch that members of congress can't see andd there are things that we d, as you recall, and congress, that we don't let anybody else see. so that tension, we got to work through it. i learned information this week, i still would like to see the documents. i think they have taken that request under advisement and i think we are getting farther taking this approach, meeting eyeball to eyeball as opposed to exchanging letters and seeing who can't leak on the quickest. that is not constructive. what is constructivist to have a conversation and i think we are making progress toward access to the documents.
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>> jason: it's a shame that nunes had to issue a subpoena atherton contempt. and the southern gentleman of trey gowdy is coming out. i'm glad you're making progress. i want to go to john ratcliffe. your perspective on james comey. fresh off a book tour. we learned a lot more about director comey. has he made the situation better or worse after this book tour, the things we learned about his actions well as the fbi doctor? >> jason, good to be with you. one of the things that has come out of jim comey's interviews on the book tour and the release of his secret moments is it's ironic to me that he is the one that created the allegation of obstruction of justice against t donald trump and now he's the same person who has effectively torpedoed the ability of the special counsel to ever prove obstruction. i say o that because the 15 pags of secret memos never mentioned obstruction of justice a single
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time, and in fact one of the memos does exactly the opposite. it says that it's an admission by the former director that president trump asked him to fully investigate whether anyone in the trump campaign was colluding with the russians, that is why we've referred to that memo as defense exhibit a and any charges that will be brought against donald trump. i think he has also hurt the mueller case and the ability to aprove that. you can't build ata case arounda star witness to has damaged his own credibility and hurt his own reputation, as i think jim comey has done over the last few weeks on this book tour. >> jason: do you have any legal jeopardy himself, director comey? >> i think the best answer to that, jason, will come with the release of the inspector general report. we all anticipate that that will happen shortly. we also know that the inspector general, michael horowitz, is someone who has proven himself to be a fair
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umpire, someone who calls balls and strikes fairly, when appropriate, willing to make terminal a referral of the deputy fbi director. i will tell you, not having seen the report, i'll be surprised if the inspector general doesn't find misconduct by former director comey. i think you will find that he violated his employment agreement, made unauthorized disclosures of fbi documents, and whether they are classified or not, those are improper leaks. i think he'll find out that he made demonstrably false statements, has been highlighted by congressional transcripts that have been released as they conflict with some of the public interviews he's been giving. i am confident that if it's appropriate, michael horowitz will make that recommendation. >> jason: chairman gowdy, when do we expect to see the report? we keep getting delayed. you will hold the first hearing. what do you expect out of this? do you think there will be any criminal referrals? >> i don't know about the criminal referrals.
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members of congress, they try to avoid people of committing crimes. that was my old job. i don't know enough to do it. i know this, all three of us have tremendous confidence in michael horowitz, the inspector general. he's a former federal prosecutor, a straight arrow, the very fact selectric i think he it's taking longer than he anticipated as he's finding more information. so what i would tell my colleagues in the house is, give him the time and the independence and the resources to do everything he needs to do. i know that we wanted it in february, march, and that's human nature, to wanted quicker, but i wanted to be complete. i wanted to be wholesome and want the american people to have confidence in what horwitz is doing. if he can represent that he has accessed every document and every witness, stop and think, he found the page-peter strzok tax, and then he found that they
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had been deleted, and then they were reconstructed. i'm as inpatient as everyone else. i want him to present a full picture when he comes and if that means waiting another couple of weeks, then so be it. >> jason: do you have h a date or you will have that hearing? >> we've set want and removed it and you remember how that used to be. we are shooting for the first week of june. t i will say it with this caveat, and you know horwitz, jason. he's not giving me any updates on his investigation, nor should he, nor what i asked. i amam simply saying we'd like o schedule the hearing, and i will pick a date and he will tell me whether or not he thinks he's going to meet that target date or not. i have no inside information and i'm not supposed to. >> jason: real quickly, congressman ratcliffe, ten seconds, director mueller, how quickly will this wrap up? will it impact the 2018 election? >> i think he has to be really careful. i don't want toi put it date on it. bob mueller is to be careful not
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to make the same mistakes that both republicans and democrats y for, allowing the investigation to impact on election, which republicans and democrats agreed happened in 2016. >> jason: gentlemen, good to be on the air with you. honor and privilege to serve with you in the congress and i thank you for joining us tonight. coming up, even after president trump's vaguely comic democrats in the media still won't give him credit. stay u with us as this special edition of "hannity" continues. ♪ come fly with me, let's fly, let's fly away. ♪
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♪you may say i'm a dreamer ♪but i'm not the only one ♪i hope some day you'll join us♪ ♪and the world will live as one♪ ♪ >> we can't be fooled into giving the north korean regime credit for returning americans that never should have been detained in the first place. it iss so troubling to hear president trump say that kim jong un treated the americans excellently. kim jong un is a dictator.
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he capriciously detained american citizens, rob them of their freedom, didn't let them go home to their family. they are released -- the release should not be exalted, it should be expected. it is no great accomplishment of kim jong un to do this. when the president does it, he weakens american foreign policy and puts americans at risk around the world. >> jason: you can never accept success fortr donald trump. welcome back to the special edition of porn. senator schumer beratingra president trump because he thanked kim jong un for returning the hostages. some democrats and members of the mainstream media did give president trump credit for his big success this week but not all. according to, msnbc, primetime programs, spent just 30 seconds on american prisoners return home from north korea. 30 k seconds. joining us now the reaction, florida congressman matt gaetz
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and former clinton poster and fox news contributor doug schon, joining me here inn studio. congressman, thank you for joining us here. was america fooled, senator schumer, the president fooled? 's at the right word for him to use? t >> it must be very embarrassing for the political left in the mainstream media, that dennis rodman conducted more diplomacy in north korea than the obama administration. let's check the scoreboard. under the obama administration, we put 5 carats on the battlefieldo to give don mighte deserter bowe bergdahl back. here in the last week president trump goes and gets the five principal leaders of isis, taking them off the battlefield, at the same time, working on three americans. if you look at the results, scoreboard, president trump has america bringing at that isth nt something we were used to over the last eight years. >> dog, you are joining me in studio.
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i remember candidate barack obama, he talked about the idea that, i would go meet with these world leaders, and now you have president trump not having to pay to bring home hostages, through good, hard, tough negotiation and being able tok. say, look, peace through strength, it has been his position. he does deserveedit credit. >> he does. i will tell mike say this is a democrats. jason, first of all, as an american. we got to stop the politics. we all, democrats, programs, labor market liberals, conservatives, need to deal with north korea. we need to work with our allies toto make sure they do what president says coming stick to the terms of the deal. if they start enriching, tighten sanctions. this is an american set of issues. this is not democrat versus republican. i praise donald trump is an american who is proud to be an american.
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>> jason: to congressman gaetz, our expectations too high with this meeting coming up? you won't solve everything with one quick sit down. the expectations it seemed to high now that -- what is your perspective? >> expectations are high because we are making progress. just because we are making progress, it doesn't dictate or guarantee any type of results. it almost all of the comments that president trump is made on the issue, he said, if they are not terms that are favorable to the united states, not a i verifiable way to ensure that north korea cannot continue to do harm, then we'll get up and walk away. we want to make a bad deal. that is one of the major differences. the last administration made a bad dealno with iran. very timely that the president has had, we want to do those bad deals, we will enforce terms and have enforceable terms, not a secret decide negotiations oreo documents that the congress and the american people don't see. i'm very encouraged and i'm
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hopeful but certainly there is no result that is guaranteed. >> jason: doug, what's a reasonable expectation of success for the president going in? what is reasonable? >> what is reasonable is that we be on a path toward a verifiable deal thathe denuclearize is the korean peninsula. i think representative gaetz is right. we want to have a quick fix deal in 30 seconds. we know that there is a lot of work that has been done. summit to condition the playing field. the president has said rightly, he will leave if he doesn't find the negotiations productive. going to take a while. we have to be patient. >> jason: real quickly, i want to give a shout out to the first lady melania trump. first ofrs all, she's made me immensely proud. she's been a great and wonderful first lady. she's taking care of baron, the toughest of circumstances. i think she's a great representation of the united states. she laid out this campaign o
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congressman, be best. what is your perspective? >> i think it is wonderful that the first lady is reaching out to young people and encouraging them to be part of this great uplifting american e experience, improving economy, low unemployment rates, also ensuring that we don't foster bullying in our schools, we have an environment where young people feel safe and secure and able to prosper and i think she is a wonderful representation of what the american dream can truly be for everyone who is here in our country if we all strive to be the very best version of ourselves. >> jason: doug, what is a democrats perspective on the first lady? >> i think she is a symbol of great success and to me, the benefit of. immigration, legal immigration, and i hope that we get a deal on daca at the wall so we can move forward in a bipartisan way. >> jason: if you want i: can work on it, i bet we could have it done. you and i could get that done by thehe end of the show. it would be very conservative. >> it would be fair and reasonable and give the dreamers
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a pathway to staying here and i daresay citizenship. >> jason: you've gone too far. congressman, thank you again for joining us. thank you for being with us. still to come, more on president trump's major week concerning north korea and iran is this special edition of "hannity" continues. ♪ ok. who can beat the san francisco guy for governor?
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>> president trump: at 2:00 in the morning i had the incredible >> at 2:00 in the morning, i had the incredible honor of greeting three braveth americans who had been held in north korea and we welcomed them back home proper way. on june 12th, and singapore, i'll be meeting with kim jong un to pursue a future of peace and
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security for the world, for the whole world. do you remember everybody in the fake news, when they were saying, he is going to get us into a nuclear war! he's going to get us into a nuclear war. and you know what gets you into nuclear wars? you know what gets you into other wars? weakness! weakness. among the many brave national security blunders of the previous administration, one of the world's worst was the disastrous iran nuclear deal, a deal that would allow iran to go right toa the brink of nuclear weapons and ultimately very quickly have a nuclear weapon. i hope to be able to make a deal with them, a good deal, a fair deal, a good deal for them. better for them.
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better for them. but we cannot allow them to have nuclear weapons. we must be able to go to a site and check that site. we have too be able to go into their military bases to see whether or not they are cheatin cheating. >> jason: welcome back to special edition of "hannity," trump's big week. that was president trump talking about has administration's recent actions considering iran and north korea. iran islr already showing its te colors. after the president pulled us out of the nuclear deal, the rogue regime as saying it is readyle to restart its nuclear program on an industrial scale. earlier this week, lawmakers and iran chanted "death to america" and burned the united states flag. joining us now with reaction to all of thisli week's big foreign policy development, former counterterrorism advisor to vice president cheney michael walt's, author of "reaper,"
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former brigadier general tony pena, and author of the nuclear showdown, north korea takes on the world, gordon chang. gentlemen, thank you for joining us tonight. general, i want to start with you. when you see iranians chanting that,g not the people of iran, that is the government there, and burning the united states flag, what's the implication of what donald trumpf did? >> jason, there's an old saying, when you want it bad, you get it back. the obamaba administration cleay wanted this deal so badly, i assume because they did not do anything for eight years. this deal is the worst deal, president trump was right to get out of it. it's an economic boondoggle for europe which is why they are fighting so hard to stay in it, and so what we see is that obama, at the very end of the deal, before it was signed, had clapper, oned of the most dishonest people in government at the time and still today,
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remove iran from a state-sponsored terror list. what that meant was that businesses could do trade with them, foreign aid can go to them and armed could go to them and meanwhile, flushed iran with millions of dollars of cash that immediately went to our enemies in the region, hamas, and the palestinians, that threatened our number one ally, israel. a terrible deal, very loose -- no way to enforce it. the reason europe is fighting for it is because of economic boondoggle. >> jason: general, thank you for your service, and thank you to michael walt's deriding and here come his time in theil i want to get your perspective. what does it from the military standpoint, behind-the-scenes, they have to know that the president was going to make this move. whatin is the defense department doing to make sure that this doesn't spin out of control? >> there's a couple of things, one, we have to militarily
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support our greatest ally in the region, and president trump knows this, and our greatest ally is israel. secondarily, we have to have our military forces fitted and ready and equipped to be a credible use of military force. what president trump instinctively knows that president obama never truly t understood is that the incredible use of military force is actually what helps diplomacy move forward. finally, the iran deal is incredibly important, a critical piece but president trump knows that is just a piece of a broader strategy against the dictatorship and particularly against iran. theree is a terrorism peace, missile peace, and their economy. both the iranians and north korean economy, that are their achilles' heel. once we put our foot on the neck of their economy, these dictatorships will fold and they will come to the table. finally, jason, we can forget
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that both north korea and iran are linked into so many ways. there have been north korean chemical engineers in t syria, don't forget that the israelis bombed a nuclear reactor in syria years ago, also backed by iran. there are linkages here, strategic linkages, that ambassador bolton, president trump, secretary mattis, understand and knowta hw to go after, and that is why you are seeing real results. this be what that is what i wanted to ask gordon about. gordon, you saw what we've been doing in north korea, such an expert on that. what is a s method of north kora andsi how should the iranians rd what president trump read what? >> i'm sure they understand that president trump is willing to use force. that is on nerve to the chinese, north koreans, and anything that unnerves the north koreans will unnerve the iranians. as we know, these two programs, iran and north korea, they are
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linked. we have iranian technicians in north korea, the iranian technicians have seen the north korea nuclear detonations, they been there. so these two regimes are joined at the hip. iran has buster paid north korea something like 2.5 to $3 billion for their various forms of cooperation, and that is a real indication that the two regimes are so close together. >> jason: general, i want to ask you real quickly, got to go aroundnd the horn, got to wrap . what is the effect it syria? you see aio lot of actions by te israelis but what is the effect directly and what is going on on the ground in syria? >> if we impose new sanctions, as i predict we will do, and that was one of the impacts that the previous sections were having on iran, that the money was not flowing as strongly into syria and to the other groups that i mentioned before, hezbollah, hamas, palestinians. and so you will see syria be separated a little bit from irap
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and hopefully, strategically, under the trump administration, who is doing thiss artfully as michael said -- >> jason: got to bring in michael. we got to wrap up. michael, a fact in syria? >> this is why we have to stay engaged. we have to support israel. we have a relatively small footprint on the ground but it is that long term peace and long-term strategy of how we roll back their gains the iranians have made in the last eight years of essentially the obama administration cutting back on the middle east middle east. >> jason: gentlemen, i wish i could spend the whole t hour talking to you. thanks for joining us tonight. coming up, more of this special edition of "hannity" right after the break. ♪ my name is jeff sheldon,
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>> welcome back to this special edition of hannity. thank you for joining us. sean is back monday, i can't thank sean enough for allowing me and trusting me to sit in
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this seat. it's mother's day weekend. happy mother's day. thanks to all the moms out there. ingraham angle is up next. >> laura: good evening from washington. i'm laura ingraham. coming up, the return of three hostages from north korea, should have been a cause for big celebration. but that's not how the opponents of the president saw t administration official is smeared as a racist for comments on immigration which are factual. we'll show you how the media's anger is misdirected. rudy g. fires back at stormy's attorney. raymond arroyo tells us about friday follies. ending the week on pre