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probably heard yanny, lo you heard laurel. >> nothing but yanny. >> laurel, to my grave. >> bret: it's just crazy. and we are talking about it. thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. here's martha, yanny or laurel, what do we got? spew when i heard laurel today and yanny tonight. thank you great at coming up tonight, a high-stakes game of international chess is getting even more heated tonight. what is behind north korea's indecision? what is happening here? could it be related to something that john bolton may have said? president trump today sounding optimistic. >> we haven't seen anything, we haven't heard anything. we will see what happens. >> martha: also tonight, new questions about the political machine that is being built by vice president mike pence. it will get to the bottom of that with cory lewandowski, the latest addition to the pens political committee and also tonight, a closer look inside
that infamous trump tower meeting with donald trump jr., jared kushner and some russians. releasing nearly 2,000 pages of the interview about that tonight. senator lindsey graham is on that committee and he joins me now. great to see you tonight. there is quite a bit to discuss with you. we are glad to have you here. let me talk to first about the summit. at what you make of what kim jong un said in terms of the possibility of canceling? speak of the kind of played this game in the past. the only advice i can give north korea's and i honestly mean this, if you are not serious about doing a deal with the president, if you are not willing to give up your nukes for a better life for north korea, don't meet with the president. the worst thing you could do is sit down and meet with president trump and then try to play him because if you do that we are going to have a war and you were going to lose it. so if you are not serious, please don't meet with the president. >> martha: there was some suggestion that john bolton mentioned the libya model and
that that may have been a factor because kim jong un does not want to end up like muammar qaddafi. mike pompeo, the secretary of state, was asked a little bit about what assurances we might be willing to give kim jong un on security by chris wallace. let's take a look. >> as part of that, are we in effect saying to kim, if you give us what we want, you can stay on and power? >> we will have to provide security assurances to be sure. this has been the trade-off that has been pending for 25 years. >> martha: what do you think that means? >> i think he's right. here's the way it works. if we end the korean war, which has never ended. we signed a peace treaty with north korea and south korea, china and united states. we recognize north korea as a sovereign country. we have no desire to invade north korea. we are not trying to unify south korea and north korea. we just want north korea to give up their nuclear weapons program which has threatened us and the world. for that they will get a
guarantee of security and hopefully a better economy because the sanctions will be relieved. here's the other choice, keep threatening america, keep building nuclear weapons and icbms. get in a war with donald trump and lose it. those are your two choices. the one kim jong un clearly has people around him who say that it would be crazy for him to give up the biggest weapon that he has in the biggest weapon that he can hold over. we may be seeing him having some second thoughts here on that front. also, what about the people of north korea will have lived on the dark continent for all these decades, and what's to stop them once they have no nukes and they have a lot of light shed into their country from rebelling against this regime that has put hundreds of thousands of people in labor camps? >> you are thinking too hard here. here's what's crazy. they keep building icbms and believe that donald trump won't
do anything about it. that probably work with obama but i'm here to tell north korea that our president has drawn a redline. if you keep threatening the american homeland with a nuclear weapon we are going to destroy your regime, it's that simple. so if you want to survive, kim jong un, you need to sit down with the president and do a deal giving up your nukes. in return we will guarantee your security end and the korean war. if you keep doing what you're doing, you are miscalculating donald trump. he's not obama. you do this at your own peril. to those who are advising kim jong un to continue down the path that you are going, bad advice. >> martha: we will see. quick question for you about the peace in "the new york times" about mike pence and the operation that he's building to give support to the republican party across the country as they head into november. there was some suggestion in the headline of that peace which was pence is trying to control public and politics. trump aids aren't happy and they quoted u.s. saying this. the white house is looking for
people to stay on the team, not break away from the team. you want to comment on the? >> the bottom line is mike penc mike pence, it's music to my ears. an organized effort to save the republican majority makes perfect sense to me. there's no more loyal person to donald trump than mike pence. i'm glad they are doing this. this is welcome news as far as i'm concerned. >> martha: always good to see you sir, thanks for being here tonight. my next guest is the aforementioned president trump's first campaign manager and i'm reportedly back in the political game joining vice president mike pence. cory lewandowski joins me know. good to see you, good to have you here tonight. this was also in "the new york times" piece. even as he places his public romance with praise for the president, mike pence we are talking about, vice president pence and a simple one of staff are unsettling a group of
mr. trump's fierce loyalist who fear they are forging a separate power base. is that what you are doing? >> look, i don't think anybody will ever accuse me of being anything other than a donald trump loyalist. i was the campaign manager, i was there when we turned the lights on and i'm honored to be joining the vice presidents pack so that we can continue to raise money with the explicit goal of supporting candidates who are supporting the trump-pence agenda through hard money contributions and making sure that we are retaining our majority in the u.s. house. that is the focus of the pence pact that i am now part of and that is completely with the blessing of the united states. >> martha: in terms of all these documents that were released today, thousands of pages from donald trump jr.'s transcript, this is what he hed about it. for over five hours i answered every question asked and was candid and forthright with the committee. your thoughts on where this whole thing is going?
>> i think don jr. is exactly right. i've been very public. i've had the unfortunate privilege of sitting before the house and the senate committees to provide testimony. i did it voluntarily. you sit there as long as they need you to to make sure that you've answered every question to prove once again there was no collusion in any way, shape, or form and that's what don jr. did and that's what his testimony shows. he sat for five hours and answered every question they asked and then he finally got up and left and now we see those answers in writing and it shows exactly what he said. there was no collusion between the trump campaign and the outside influencer. >> martha: we will get into this more in a moment but i want to ask you a little bit about some comments that were made byy giuliani who is now representing the president in this matter. here's what he said about the possibility of a presidential indictment. he said they can't indict, at least they acknowledge that to us after some battling, they acknowledged that to us he says. >> this goes back to -- i believe it's a 1999 clinton era memo, bill clinton era memo that
was written that said a sitting president of the united states cannot be indicted and that was something that has been discussed now for almost 20 years and that has been the rules and from what i understand the mayor is saying is the mueller team abide by that memo and understands it to be accurate and there is no indictment coming for the president because there was no collusion, there was no coordination. there is nothing to indict him for other than putting america first. if that's a crime he's going to be indicted. >> martha: has rudy giuliani given you that kind of assuranc assurance? sort of off-line on all of this because when he makes the statements, the reports are that he's getting ahead of himself, that he shouldn't be saying there's no indictment when the obstruction of justice issue is still out there. do you think that he is sort of on the same page with the president and the rest of the team when he comes out and says there will be no indictment? >> i think the mayor is exactly on the president's team. it is a different tactic, which is a much more aggressive tactic as it relates to dealing with the mueller investigation.
tomorrow marks the one-year anniversary of bob mueller being named as the special counsel to investigate this and what we've seen is millions of dollars wasted, no collusion by the president. we know that no collusion by the trump campaign and the mayor has now said if bob mueller wants to talk to the president you do it through a series of questions in a very limited fashion. that's a very reasonable request and it doesn't seem like the mueller team has any interest in doing that. >> martha: let's play this sound bite from the interview that laura ingraham did with rudy giuliani and get your quick thoughts from that before we head to the break. >> what is your optimal timeline for this to wrap up? >> today. as soon as possible. i think that they have the facts from which they can write the report. going to write a fair report, fine. going to find write an unfair , write it and we will combat it. we are ready to rip it apart. >> martha: the president's former attorneys said they felt everything is going to wrap up very quickly. they are no longer in the
picture. one of the comments about that is they are not giving the president sort of the full picture of what was going on with this investigation. do you think that rudy giuliani is correct, that this is wrapping up, should wrap up and will wrap up quickly? >> i hope it wraps up very quickly because the goal here of the mueller investigation is to write a report to congress to show if there was any collusion or cooperation or coordination, which there wasn't. that report is going to take some time. what we don't want to see if any politicalization of this any further. we we the mueller team to write there purports to congress of the american people can see very clearly that the from campaign, of which i was a part of for a long period of time, never coordinated with any russians, there weren't any russians there, there was no collusion and that's what the american people deserve to see so i think it's incumbent on the mueller team to finish their investigation and get that report to congress. >> martha: thank you, good to see you tonight. coming up, a new report leading to some questions for former cia director john brennan. >> we wanted to make sure that
we handled this matter appropriately, but also delicately because we were in the midst of a presidential campaign. >> martha: what is that about? there's a new report tonight from "the new york times" that claims that the fbi was pursuing the secret investigation into russian election interference and president trump's campaign, 100 days before election day and it was called cross fire hurricane. also coming up, believe it or not, the five way race to win back the republican primary in georgia is already looking wilder than what we saw in west virginia. >> i've got a big truck just in case i need to round up criminal illegals and take them home myself. yeah, i just said that. do not mistake serenity for weakness. do not misjudge quiet tranquility with the power of 335 turbo-charged horses the lincoln mkx, more horsepower than the lexus rx350
>> martha: fascinating report in "the new york times" tonight that lays out the early days of the fbi investigation into the trump campaign and says that there was a super secret and titled cross fire hurricane and it claims that the team was very concerned about doing everything by the book and about the ramifications of an investigation that would have been going on during the course of the trump campaign in 2016. the team that worked on this had just finished the hillary clinton investigation and the story says that peter strzok and lisa page, you remember them, among others on
this multiand wanted to tread carefully. is that exactly what happened and isn't this the process of what turned out to be the "insurance policy" that we heard so much about. is the story an effort to rewrite at times peace back from october 2016 that claimed there was no collusion to be found? it comes also at an opportune time for john brennan whose own narrative appears to be unraveling more and more every day. the hill's opinion contributor john solomon is here. but first trace gallagher. >> cross fire hurricane was named after rolling stone lyrics. it was the name used by only a few fbi agents who in the summer of 2016 were sent to interview the australian ambassador to the united kingdom who claimed he had evidence of possible collusion between the trump campaign and russia. it was former trump campaign aide george papadopoulos who the ambassador reportedly got his information from. but the times says the investigation was largely secret.
in fact, the article contends the fbi was open about the hillary clinton email investigation because they assumed she would win the white house and didn't want to appear to be withholding information and at the fbi was very private about any trump-russia connections for fear that underdog donald trump would claim the fbi was trying to sway the election. it was also in the summer of 2016 that 10-cia director john brennan started briefing members of congress and fbi director james comey on intelligence showing that russia was behind an attack on the election and here's what john brennan said today on msnbc. watch. >> it was in some respects a race against time to try to uncover and discover as much as we could, but at the same time not compromise what i thought was probably the most sensitive counterintelligence investigation that i was ever involved in. >> but we are now learning that in may of 2017 brennan told the house intel committee that the
infamous, salacious and unverified steele dossier was "not in any way used as the basis for the intelligence community's assessment that russia interfered in the election." remember, the intel community assessment is the primary reference for allegations that vladimir putin raked the election to help trump win but now former nsa director admiral michael rogers and former director of national intelligence jinx klapper art contradicting john brennan saying the dossier was in fact used as part of that assessment and then finally we should note after a closed-door hearing with john brennan today the senate intel committee says the russian government did interfere to help donald trump win the election. the house intel committee you might remember had already concluded that russia did interfere, but not in an effort to help donald trump. martha. >> martha: mike rogers was one of those. he felt that that was not conclusive in terms of whether or not they were trying to help
trump over clinton. a former nsa director. thank you very much. joining me now with more on this tonight, john solomon, opinion contributor to the hill who has dug into the story very deeply over the past year. good to have you with us tonigh tonight. interesting timing how this piece dropped and sort of shed light on all of these things. what do you make of this story and what it aims to accomplish? >> there's a lot of speculation that maybe this is an effort by brennan to burnish his image or corrective story or the new york times to get right with its early reporting. i have a different theory. next week or the week after the ig report is going to come out and it's going to excoriate the fbi's handling of both the hillary clinton case and the donald trump initial russian case and i think there's a lot of effort here for the fbi career people to get some of their narrative out in between all of the politics. there are the key things that are in that story today. one is in the -- read "the new york times," what it
wrote in october all over again. there is still no evidence today like there was in october of 2016, still no evidence of collusion after all this time. that's an important acknowledgment in the story. and i think the timeline is very important and it's written in a way that is hard to put the times in linear fashion. let's take what happened. ambassador hears conversation, doesn't report it to the fbi about from collusion. christopher steele a approaches the fbi. specialty meets the ambassador with and tells him about it and then john brennan sends an electronic communication kind of prodding the communication, get going, i think there's some collusion here too, some interference in the election. that's the origin of this case and i think when people look back the question will be was that evidence solid, was there enough reason to open a counterintelligence investigation against a sitting candidate for president based on what we now know about the quality of that evidence back and i think today there was an effort to just lay that timeline out so people can make a better decision. >> martha: very interesting and we are expecting that ig
report shortly. if it is as you say it will be very interesting. another point that caught me here was the question of the fbi having their own independent mole or a spy who was sort of at the center of all of this and we know that glenn simpson suggested that there was somebody who was invented in the trump campaign as part of the investigation. they try to sort of explain that here. it says at least one government informant met several times with mr. paige and mr. papadopoulos. that has become politically contentious with mr. trump's allies question whether the fbi was spying on the trump campaign or trying to entrap campaign officials. it questions whether or not there was someone who was connected to the fbi into the investigation was trying to sort of bait of bait papadopoulos and page into actions related to all of this. >> and to be honest with you i've covered a lot of counterintelligence investigations over 30 years. that is not an uncommon tactic. i think the early stories were suggesting there was a mole and
headquarters. i don't think it's quite that. they had their suspicions, that's why they want for the fisa more. it's not uncommon in the counterintelligence investigation to use humans, to send a human to go try to pump someone for information to get an assessment of whether the allegation is true. a lot of people forget counterintelligence investigations are not criminal. they are not trying to bring prosecution. it doesn't surprise me. i don't think it will turn out to be nefarious but i do think it is a common tactic in cia investigations to get someone close to the target and find out if their suspicions are correct. >> martha: very interesting. good to see you tonight, thank you very much. still to come tonight, president trump issues a new warning to california leaders who do not follow federal immigration laws. >> i would recommend that you look into obstruction of justice for the mayor of oakland, california, . >> martha: nearly two dozen others are fighting back. we will talk to one of those who is defying the backlash and california.
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>> martha: who can out-trump trump may be the name of the game in the georgia race for the next governor of that state. next tuesday, five republicans are on the ballot to the replace the g.o.p. governor, who is term limited there and here come the candidates. first up, former state senator hunter hill. >> as governor i will stop sanctuary cities and eliminate the stadium tax. during three combat tours i defended our constitution and now i am ready to serve again. these guys, they will never make it out of the swamp. >> martha: then there is georgia secretary of state brian kemp. >> i own guns that no one is taking away. my chainsaw is ready to rip up
some regulations. i've got a big truck just in case i need to round up criminal illegals and take them home myself. yep, i just said that. we wanted to get the subtlety and that message? last and most provocative, perhaps, i don't know. it's a pretty tough race. michael williams. >> week at the deportation bus. that's right, you heard me. the michael williams deportation bus. want to find out where we are coming? go to deportationbus.com. we will implement my deportation plan that's going to fill this bus with illegals to send them back to where they came from. we are not just going to track them and watch them roam around our state, we are going to put them on this bus and send them home. >> martha: he joins us now with that bus behind him. good to see you this evening, sir. how did this idea come to you and you are i think fifth in the
polls right now. is it sort of a last ditch effort to get some attention i guess is one question? >> first of all, thank you so much for having us on in the way that we came up with this idea, my campaign staff, we were trying to figure out what kind of bus to where we wanted to have and we decided we didn't want to do one of those traditional kind of boring campaign bus stories. we wanted to come up with something that exemplifies what our tagline meant, which was fearless conservative, as well as addresses an issue that is pivotal to my campaign as well as important to all georgians, illegal immigration so we came up with the michael williams deportation bus tour and we actually started it today and we went to two sanctuary cities to bring attention to the effects of illegal immigration here in our state and our country and we feel very, very confident about our position in this race. we have had tons of people reach out to us over the past several weeks saying they've already voted for us. i know there are polls out there that want to say otherwise but we all know polls don't matter,
what really matters is who shows up at the ballot box. he >> martha: you have a video about the bus and it was taken down by youtube. why was that and i believe they put it back up, right? >> absolutely. they took it down because they said, and they sent us a confirmation that they took it down because it was fear, hate speech. what was really exciting to me was that we had supporters not just here in georgia, but all over the country. people that love the first amendment, that love our conservative values. they reached out to youtube and set put that video back up and they caved and they put it back up so i was glad to see that happen. >> martha: in terms of what's happening in your state, there was a period where it looks like it could go blue, sort of blue-red in georgia. at what you're feeling for how your state is shifting right now and how do you think that you can make up the ground that you appear to have lost to casey, the lieutenant government there? >> we always knew that casey
cagle was going to make it to the runoff. he's been in office for almost a quarter of a century. really high name i.d. it's not very good name idea but it's high. our goal, our objective was always to make it to that second spot so we can make it to the runoff with him and as far as the state going blue, going red, we here in georgia, we love our president, we love what he's doing, we love the values that he is fighting for and i am 100% confident that we are going to have a republican governor in georgia in 2019. >> martha: did you get anybody on the bus yet? >> that's one of the questions that we get asked as we travel around, we've spoken to many news outlets and they want to know, are you actually picking up illegals and putting them on the bus? the answer to that is no we are not. the purpose of the bus is to bring attention to my 287g deportation program which would allow sheriff's deputies to have many of their deputies act as ice age and so we can have 159
counties with acting as agents. they can begin the deportation process immediately and not have to wait for federal agents. >> martha: good to see you tonight. thank you for being here. >> pleasure. >> martha: let's bring in our panel, charlie hurt political columnist for the washington times and also drives a truck i believe. and has a gun i think. >> that's him, not me. >> martha: both are fox news contributor's. charlie, wow. those make donald trump look kind of genteel. maybe this is good for the president. >> as you pointed out, the nuance and subtlety is what i like the most about all of those ads. >> martha: charming. >> indeed. i do think that it sort of an important point that people around here ought to remember. as shocked and horrified that they are about donald trump and his ascendancy, what if he is not the storm itself, but the warning of a storm? there remains a lot of anger out in the country about washington
and help professional politicians do their business around here. there's a lot of anger and politically speaking even more conservative than what donald trump is. so i think that this is probably a pretty good glimpse of what we will probably be seeing a lot of over the next four years and i wouldn't be surprised if one of these guys wins. and that guy williams, i wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't win not just on the fact that youtube decided to pull his -- >> martha: is definitely going to try to capitalize on that. makes me wonder if maybe democrats want to have a different kind of boss and pick people up to bring them to sanctuary cities, something like that. we could get a lot of different buses going around the country. >> i would drive that bus personally. i agree with charlie that this is definitely a wave, what's going on here with this way that a lot of people are obviously taking signals from what has
worked for the president and bringing that to their localities here. what's interesting to me that michael williams said there, i'm a fearless conservative, that's what this is. that used to mean being for the free market and small government and balancing the budget and cutting some entitlements and it has totally transformed into being someone who opens an ad with your shotgun and rides around saying i'm going to round up all the illegals and i'm going to escort them to the border and kicked them over. if this is an even just i'm going to make sure they go into court and then we will see what happens, it has gotten so much more aggressive in the age of trump and people are liking it. they are not liking it enough i think to elect to this fellow, though i don't know what is going to happen here, but is so much more hyper charged than it used to be because these are competitive primaries but also because of the tone and rhetoric of this president. >> martha: that's really the big question of the current presidency, isn't it, charlie? is it sort of a moment in time
that sort of captures this kind of passion for things like a wall in terms of gun ownership and all of that, or has it tapped into something that is a lasting change, and evolution in the country and in politics to recognize people who don't like the way things are going and are here to stay? >> i think it's two things. one is after eight years of president obama where a lot of people felt like the law didn't matter, it was all about sort of political correctness and things like that, but the other thing is that -- jessica is right, this is not necessarily conservative, it's more populist than anything else. but i don't think the founders, for example would be terribly upset by all of this. they never intended to have a professional political class. they didn't want to professional political class. they wanted people who had other jobs and owned chainsaws and shotguns and trucks and did
other things and came to washington, brought their common sense to washington, fix things, ran the government, and then went home. this whole idea were we have literally a swamp along the potomac river where people never leave and now we have air conditioning. if we didn't have air conditioning they would have to leave in a summer because it's so miserable here. but now they are here all the time and they are spending all of our money. >> martha: get rid of the air conditioning, that's an excellent point! >> my favorite part of those ads are the guys in the suits and ties crawling through the swamp and stuck in the thing and they can't quite enough. something that i think is really fantastic that is happening on both sides is how much veterans are showing off what they did for our country and this is on the democrat side as well. i think that's really wonderful to see that is become something that you lead with that i think that's an important message for everyone on both sides of the aisle. >> martha: thanks, great to see you. president trump also talking immigration today and not mincing words either.
watch this. >> we are taking people out of the country. you wouldn't believe how bad these people are. these aren't people, these are animals. >> martha: pretty strong language and he's even getting support from elected leaders in california. michelle steele on why she is fighting back against her own governor, she was at the white house today. plus, high school basketball star who is now exposed. turns out he's not exactly a teenager, he's 25! jesse watters on how this happened and how this guy got caught. >> he took advantage of that and portrayed himself as a victim of that event and enrolled in one of our schools. ♪ cation. cation. and only 1 in 10,000 ever make it to market. but what if ai could find connections faster.
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>> i said please run. >> i respect them all, but no president has done more than you for border security and for law enforcement. i think every law enforcement officer at this table would agree with me. >> thank you very much. that's a great complement. i just wish you could have said that to the press. >> martha: that was the president today holding a roundtable at the white house with elected leaders from california fighting back against that state sanctuary laws. nearly two dozen southern california communities have now passed ordinances, and in some cases filed lawsuits, against the state's immigration law that largely prohibit local and state authorities from cooperating with federal immigration officers. they also issued a word of warning for oakland mayor, you remember her story. she warned illegal immigrants of incoming planned ice rates back in february. >> you talk about obstruction of justice.
i would recommend that you look into obstruction of justice for the mayor of oakland, california, . she advises a thousand people. they told get out of here the law enforcement is coming. >> martha: proposed a resolution to condemn the state law and she was at today's event. welcome, good to have you here. it feels like there is this rift, a serious rift in california between these counties and communities who really want to have safer communities against the sanctuary cities but the question from today's roundtable is what is accomplished? can you ever turn the tide in california? >> president trump is supporting us. he wants -- actually nine counties in more than 35 cities passed ordinances or resolutions that we are going after this. we really want to make that.
it's going to be much safer. at this point we jeopardize our public safety. >> martha: let's take a look at what jerry brown tweeted after the meeting in the videotape that was played from the white house today. he said donald trump is lying on immigration, lying about crime and lying about the laws of california. flying in a dozen republican politicians to flatter him and praise his reckless policies changes nothing. we the citizens of the fifth largest economy in the world are not impressed. your reaction michelle? >> this has nothing to do with immigration and this title is totally misleading because california values. people think that we are actually bashing immigrants i'm a first-generation immigrant. of course not. we are talking about criminal illegals that they are, walking on the street. we had about 338 criminals who
were released on the streets. we couldn't do it because of the california law. this is unsafe. our job and the government's job is to protect its own citizens and it's not done in california so we really have to fight for it. and president trump invited us to talk about it and i'm so grateful for that because we are fighting against this padlock the president trump is helping and he listens to everybody who were there and he commented actually we had jeff sessions there. cabinet secretary from homeland security, secretary nielsen was there. the ice director was there. pointing at those people at what we can do, work with these people. >> martha: i just have a few seconds left but are you all looking for money, federal backing from the federal government? for these lawsuits?
>> no, we just want to change this bad law. and for orange county itself to actually join jeff sessions. june 5th we are going to find out that we can join them or no not. working together, partnership between federal government and the county and the cities and this is unconstitutional. >> martha: thank you very much. good to have you with us tonight. >> thank you. >> martha: up next, you know these two are just getting married in a few days away on saturday, but so much drama. and how old does this guy look? does he look like a high school freshman to you? look closely. what police say he just did to play basketball in high school and relive his glory days again. glory days himself. jesse watters never ages.
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♪ >> back to school, back to school, to prove to dad that i'm not a fool. i got my lunch packed up, my boots tight tight, i hope i don't get in a fight. >> martha: the good old adam sandler days. adults going back to school trying to relive their glory days, but this next story is not from a movie. texas police have arrested this high school basketball player for posing as a 17-year-old boy. his name is actually sidney gilstrap-portley. and he is a 25-year-old grown man. so how does this happen? >> when we had the issue of hurricane harvey, he took advantage of that. and portrayed himself as a victim of that event and enrolled himself in one of our schools. >> martha: here now, jesse watters, who i called jerry before. maybe it was like a laurel,
yanny thing. host of waters world. thanks for being here today. they say that this young man was fairly savvy to be able to utilize his position with the harvey students and then he went in there and join the basketball team and dominated the young players. no kidding. and he became the district's offensive player of the season. >> i'm impressed by this guy. i think it's everyone's fantasy to go back and relive high school with the wisdom of your adult years. ace all the exams, dominant in sports. i thought about doing it myself because my youthful appearance but i'm so famous i can't bullet off. >> martha: this man was also somewhat famous. there was a basketball tournament and one of the former coaches, the former coaches like hey, he graduated some time ago from our high school. just fyi. >> he also got cocky and brought his baby and the baby's mama to the games in the stands and he
just sold them off as their cousins. >> martha: he was dating a freshman at the high school. >> also not a good choice. 10-15 for that. >> martha: now for something completely different as they say in monty python. the royal wedding, this is a bad situation. her father was going to come, not going to come, then he sold some pictures to the paparazzi. so who do you think -- now that he's not going to come, i need your etiquette advice for meghan markle. who do you think should walk her down the aisle? >> someone that looks like him, maybe a stand-in. you could find anybody like that off the streets in this country. why did you have me on for this segment? i don't know. my only thing is -- >> martha: i go to you for etiquette. >> that's right, i'm very buttoned up. i have a view concept which i have sat on the five. i don't want to ever bash the ladies of the view because one day i might have a book out that
i might need to sell on the view. i don't want to attack the royals to viciously and say this is a disaster and say her family doesn't have class and say i don't care and say i'm bored by it because one day i might meet the royal family and i don't want to embarrass anybody. >> martha: you're protecting yourself. >> her mother seems like a lovely person so i think either her mom should walk her down the aisle, but here's what i think, she's 36 years old. married before, independent grown woman. i think she should walk down the aisle on her own. they have all these little children that our bridesmaids, they are all in the wedding. just walk down with them and do it on your own, just walk down the aisle like the strong woman that you are and you don't need to have anyone with you. maybe she wants her mom. >> even though this was her second marriage. this is breaking news to me. >> martha: do we have the tape of yanny and laurel? i've heard a few different things.
>> [computerized voice] >> it's yanny. >> martha: you hear yanny? >> what do you hear? >> martha: laurel. that's what i heard this morning when they did it in our morning meeting in my office i heard yanny, yanny, yanny. and they all said what? but then i just heard very specifically broken up, laurel. >> harvard science has done a study that says that if you hear yanny you have a higher intelligence level than people that he or laurel. kind of embarrassing for you. >> martha: so i'm 50/50. i've got that going for me. thank you, always good to see you. >> jerry you mean. >> martha: jerry! we will be right back.
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we will be back here tomorrow night at 7:00 and we will see you then. down to d.c. now and my friend tucker carlson. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." last year congressional republicans you remember past a major tax reform bill. it accomplished a big goal for them and many of their donors. a tax reform wasn't what republicans ran on in 2016. popular as it may be now. at the time they ran you will remember on immigration and a promise to treat america's borders like they are actual borders and matter, like this was a real country. some republicans in congress think congress want to betray that pledge in the most dramatic possible way. they're working tonight to pass a so-called discharge petition in the house. it would force boats on a slew of