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this evening. set your dvr, we are always fair and balanced. let not your heart be troubled. that was a great interview with rudy last night. i'm glad you asked all those questions. i had the new news with rudy. >> laura: that acosta, they were practically swooning in that question. how great are you, president oba obama? i think you're great. but your legacy. oh, my god, erecting a statue to him. >> sean: why not just admit he is a leftist who hates donald trump. let stop the pretense. >> laura: move on dot org is looking for a copy righter. "the new york times" buries a
bombshell in a story that some say confirms that the obama administration spied on the trump campaign. and roger stone is going to explain why mueller is now focusing on him after spending a year trying to find dirt on the president. plus as we were telling you about earlier this week, a gop split over daca is hurting the momentum for the mid-term elections. the senate confirms gina haspel as cia director. mitch mcconnell has been able to secure confirmation for 21 federal appellate court judges all nominated by trump. that is one eighth of the curt federal appellate bench. and raymond arroyo will explain why rebooted tv shows are
everywhere and why "murphy brown" is taking on fox news. but first the anatomy of a smear. that's the subject of tonight's angle. the left leaning media complex fancy themselves as the only truly reliable check on the president. democrats can give speeches and file minority reports on capitol hill and bob mueller may be getting a little warmer. but the press believes it has a superior moral responsibility, not necessarily to report the truth but to report a version of the truth in a way that is skewed against trump and his allies. hence, they take a comment by him about ms-13 members -- >> ms-13 gang members i know about, i cannot tell i.c.e. about them.
>> we have people trying to come into the country and we're stopping a lot of them. and we're take people out of the country, you wouldn't believe how bad these people are. these aren't people. they are animals. >> laura: and they turn that comment into this. >> trump rants on unauthorized migrants. these aren't people but the animals. not to be outdone, here's how the "new york daily news" played it. trump hurling pure hate against immigrants. and trump refers to immigrants as animals. again. now, this is an obscene and ridiculous and frankly nefarious slant that then is picked up by liberal politicians like chuck schumer who wrote the following, when all our great-great grant parents came to america, they
weren't animals and these people aren't either. and on tv they bounce condemnations around the echo chamber. >> what does the president mean when he said some of the immigrants are not people but an malice. >> it's a slippery slope when you dehumanize people this way. it's what nazis did and what slave owners did. >> the tone has shifted about what it means about you if you are an illegal immigrant. >> she went to nazis. yes, she went to nazis. do any of these people bother trying to look like they are in any way impartial at any time of day calling balls and strikes? you know, learn the facts or understand what the context of what the president said was or, frankly, get out of the
business. journalists have an obligation to report the truth regardless of where it leads. even analysts and commentators bother to read the comments and be fair. jake tapper and cnn did note that the president was taken out of context earlier today. and the ap acknowledged that it had made an honest mistake writing, ap deleted a tweet from wednesday on the animals comment about immigrants because it wasn't made clear he was speaking after a comment about gang members. good for them. but even after those clarifications, msnbc could not help itself. >> president trump lashing out during an immigration round table at the white house. during the discussion with state and local leaders on california
sanctuary laws that the white house says he was referring to the criminal immigrant gang ms-13, not to all immigrants. he didn't say so. he didn't make that clear. >> make it clear? he was responding to a point about ms-13. andrea knows better. this, my friends, is this anatomy of a smear. take a comment out of context, isolate it, blast out the worst characterization of its purpose and meaning and writes, so-called reporters and politicians spit it back on panels where the number of furrowed brows seem to outnumber the number of brain cells. and as for ms-13 as whom trump was speak. this is some of what they have been up to lately. a horrific crime in the outskirts of washington, d.c. last year. they stabbed a man more than 100
times. they decapitated him and tore the heart out of his chest. or this case in loudoun county, virginia where a reported ms-13 gang member beat a muslim girl to death with a baseball bat. the suspect charged with murdering a 17-year-old muslim girl during ramadan was accused of sexually assaulting another woman a week before the teen slaying in virginia and is reportedly an ms-13 gang member. then there is this heart breaking account from the parents of teenaged girls killed by ms-13 in suffolk county, new york. >> there's not a day, a second, that i don't think about my daughter. and they just don't understand the pain. of a parent losing their child to this gang violence.
our kids should be burying us, not the parents burying their kids. their lives are ahead of them. >> laura: that is one of the toughest interviews i have ever done in the history of this show, by the way. the pain on a mother's face. and the suspect in that case were seen laughing in court during a pre-trial hearing. unbelievable. no wonder sarah sanders responded this way to the animal fr fracas at the briefing. >> i think that the president should continue to use his platform in everything he can do under the law to stop these types of horrible, horrible, disgusting people. >> laura: good for her. but i would say we are insulting animals because they don't behave this way or kill for fun, thank you very much. but the last word on this goes to the president. who cleared up any confusion for
all those commentators on msnbc about his comments today. >> and you know i'm referring to the ms-13 gangs that are coming in. so when the ms-13 comes in i refer to them as animals. and guess what, i always will. >> laura: this is why trump got elected. by speaking bluntly and honestly. not a lot of concern for political correctness, frankly, a lot of people are done with that anyway. but he's talking about the challenges facing america. law and order, safety on the streets. law and order at the border. he changed the political landscape and he frustrated liberal neighb liberal narratives by speaking to the people like they speak among themselves. and if he keeps speaking truth to power, he will get elected
again. and perhaps that's why the left is acting like themselves, a pack of wild animals over a side comment by donald trump. and that's the angle. now shifting gears, we're now a year into the special counsel's probe and bob mueller has another target. route reuters reporting he subpoenaed jason sullivan to appear before a grand jury tomorrow. he is interested in whether the trump campaign was involved in the wikileaks release of the e-mails during the 2016 campaign. stone is the author of a new book "stone's rules: how to win at politics, business and style." now he joins us exclusively, great to see you.
how you doing, roger? congrats on the book. we have some rules we pulled out. we're now into year two of this investigation today. and they're bringing in a guy who worked for you on twitter and social media trending. what's going on there? >> at this point i don't know if i'm a person of interest or just an interesting person. it's very clear that not only has mr. mueller subpoenaed a part-time consultant who worked for me for three months he dropped subpoenas on a number of other young people who worked for me. i think this is driven by a fake news narrative that insists that i must have known in advance about the hacking of the dnc which i dispute happened by the russian. i don't think it happened at all never mind by the russians and i must have had advanced notice about the content, the source and the disclosure time of the
wikileaks dnc disclosures. that is false. but it's not pleasant having a special prosecutor in your phone calls and e-mails. and it's a violation of my fourth amendment rights and there's no probable cause here. julian assange has said roger stone never said anything on twit her didn't glean by simply following what i was saying in interviews and on my twitter feed. >> laura: they are hanging this on a tweet you had, where you said, trust me, it will be podesta's time in the barrel. >> i said, it will be the to december that's time in the barrel, people refer to donald trump the donald. i'm referring to john and tony because in april of 2016 their
shady russian business deals were exposed in the panama papers. as a student of opposition research i was well aware of. that i never predicted the hacking or theft of john podesta's e-mails. but that is omitted from the reports and from the final report. my lawyers had to write a letter asking for a correction. the podestas refers to john and tony. >> laura: adam schiff, he says and complains that you deny everything so you need subpoenas for your tweets and direct twitter messages. he said this. >> what we ought to do is subpoena twitter for direct messages that went to these particular handles or came from roger stone so that we don't have to accept and rely upon the word of roger stone which i think is a hazardous thing to
do. one thing that roger stone and the president have in common is a philosophy that you deny everything. that only suckers and losers admit to anything. if you deny it, it didn't happen. >> first of all i testified fully and truthfully to the house intelligence committee and i turned over to them the wikileaks and guccifer direct message exchanges. >> how do you get in touch with guccifer 2.0? >> by going to direct messages. based on the content and the context of that exchanges it's six weeks after the wikileaks exposures. so collusion is impossible. they are expost fashion toe. they are benign and i turned them over to the committee. >> laura: the house committee has it. >> the senate committee will
have it. >> laura: you wanted to testify in public. they brought you behind closed doors. why is that? >> and now the house democrats complain that my testimony is not in public when they wanted it in private. i agree to agree with the house and senate committees. i would like my testimony to be in public. i am going to turn over these documents and they are complete. >> laura: george stephanopoulos had george caputo on. >> he just met with mueller's team this week and came out saying they asked a lot of questions about collusion and he came away concerned about paul manafort, roger stone, gates and others. >> laura: they are very concerned about manafort, stone, gates and others. >> cnbc and msnbc and that partisan hack ari melbern insist
that he is focusing on my relationship with rick gates. i have never been alone with him. they are focused on dinners. there is one dinner. an manafort is supposed to join us. but at the last minute, gates shows up in his stead, showing up late and leaving early. there is no discussion of wikileaks or julian assangem and we did not work together 30 years ago. that is a falsehood. >> what about this stan nunberg comment? this is in march going back to what you said about julian assange. >> the minute he told me he met with assange i assumed he was lying.
it's one of the stone rules. it's a trump tactic too. take credit and insinuate himself. >> you mean roger stone lies to people like you, his mentee. >> i call it bluffing and posturing. sometimes sam would call you 20, 30, 40 times a day. >> laura: it's called stalking, roger. 30 times a day, what? >> one friday when i wanted to get him off the phone. sam kept saying one more thing, and he said do you have plans for weekend? i said i'm going to fly to london and have dinner with julian assange. it's a joke. >> laura: things taek taken out of context and isolated and blasted out. and then they are used to smear people. that's the art of a smear. >> when i figured out he believed it, i milked it in a
joke. i produced credit card records and a receipt from santa monica that proves i was in l.a. and my passport, customs records. >> laura: you've never been to russia. >> i was not in london and i have never met or spoken with julian assange. >> laura: and by the way, stone's rules from your book. hit from every angle. open multiple fronts on your enemy. the enemy must be confused and feel besieged on every side. it seem like that's what they're doing to donald trump. >> they're trying to. everything the president needs to do so survive is in this book. i would direct him to this rule. attack, attack, attack, don't defend. i love it when he calls out the fake news media.
i love it when he exposes what the is greatest political scandal in american history, the use of a phony dossier using the power and authority of the state to spy on the republican candidate for president. >> laura: it's a crossover sven diagram there. "the new york times" seems to confirm that the obama administration did spy on the trump campaign. but did the paper do that on purpose? was it meant to blunt the impact of the inspector general report? for all the eyes that get itchy and watery near pollen. there's flonase sensimist. it relieves all your worst symptoms including nasal congestion, which most pills don't. and all from a gentle mist you can barely feel. flonase sensimist.
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the obama administration did, in fact, spy on the trump campaign. buried in the piece on the russia probe, more than 40 paragraphs down is this revelation. at least one government informant met with george papadopoulos, president trump tweeted that it could be bigger than watergate but was this a misstep or done on purpose? roger stone rejoins us for reaction on this development. also molly hemmingway and former whitewater prosecutor saul wisenberg. >> it's shocking and improper in my view that the fbi apparently penetrated and had an undercover person on the trump campaign that they used the lesser
standards of a counter intelligence investigation. >> laura: to open counter in tell investigation you don't need a criminal predicate, correct? >> you don't need a criminal predicate. it's one thing to say they could have -- they had enough evidence to open an investigation of whether there is russian espionage but certainly they weren't close to being anywhere near able to say we have some evidence of espionage by people in the trump campaign and they never could have opened a criminal investigation on that so they used the excuse of counter intelligence. it's a huge scandal. and you're absolutely right. it was put in that story because they knew it was going to come out and they're trying to be able to say that's old news and not a big deal. >> molly? >> i think it's not that this might be happening that the fbi was spying but we have multiple former fbi officials fully
saying there was broad surveillance on the trump campaign. not just carter page but four separate high ranking individuals. there were national security letters and at least one human intelligence source about whom we don't know a lot. how many there were, were they sent in by the fbi or walk ins. but it's not a question that this might indicate there is spying. they're saying they spied and did it in a broad fashion. >> laura: remember when trump was ridiculed by everyone when he says i was wiretapped. he speaks in shorthand. >> he was right. >> laura: they trashed him. >> right here on fox was the first one to call this. this has to be seen in context. only in only did they use a phony, fabricated dossier as the underlying legal rational for the spying on the republican candidate for president using the power and authority and capability of the state to spy
on one of the two major party candidates but they infiltrated the trump campaign with an fbi agent. this makes watergate look like small potatoes. >> laura: it looks like this guy stefan hall per, who teaches at cambridge, an american citizen, you know him, roger. >> i played poker with him. he's an excellent poker player. >> laura: it looks like, it's been reported. i know -- he might have been someone who was trying to suggest a lot of things to the trump campaign. but he didn't work for the trump campaign. but it was reported that he approached many different trump campaign people to try to give them information. what do you make of that, saul? >> you would call that a potential entrapment. an agent provocateur in the campaign. i hadn't heard that yet but it
wouldn't necessarily surprise me. but it's shocking enough that based on the kind of flimsy evidence that they had that they would put somebody into the campaign. the fisa is disturbing enough because we know they didn't reveal something very important, very important to the fisa court. but to have a plant in the political campaign of your opponent, if you do something like that you better have dynamite and it looks like they didn't have dynamite and it's the pattern of sally yates investigating mike flynn for the logan act. >> laura: she was out defending this yesterday. >> congress is currently trying to find out information about these types of things and the fbi is telling them that they can't turn over that information. at the same time you are seeing leaks with personal identifying, buy graph call and career information about the source that was used and there is at least one source. they are telling "the new york times" but they won't turn the information over to congress. >> laura: why?
because they want to make themselves look as good as possible before the ig thing comes out. this narrative is being tainted, burying the lead in "the new york times." and rudy just said on sean hannity's show. they are discussing far rogue the scope of the questions. i don't like him talking to bob mueller at all. i think this whole thing stinks to high heaven but it looks like they made progress on narrowing the questions. >> there's no circumstance under which the president should go in for an interview. it's a perjury trap. and the idea that rod rhoden ste -- rosenstein won't turn over information regarding surveillance of the trump cam an with the illegitimate use of fisa warrants is an impeachable offense. >> what did the president know and when did he know it?
>> laura: how does the president of the united states not know we are doing an counter intelligence mission on the -- >> the president wanted to know everything. >> i go back to susan rice's e-mail a herself. president wanted everything done by the book. she said it twice right after noon on january 20th. i get chills when i think of that. >> it's the cya memo. >> what about narrowing the scope of the questions, is that giving you a sense of comfort they would answer questions by mueller? >> as i've said many times on this show, if donald trump, if he were any white collar client, any regular white collar client famous or not in this circumstance i would physically prevent him from going in for that questioning. on the point that roger raised about the information that the d.o.j. doesn't want to give
over. there are good reasons for not giving over sources and methods. the problem with the doj, particularly with the fbi is they've been caught saying several times we can't turn this over because it's sensitive. and when they back down and unredact it, it's just embarrassing. they have a credibility problem. >> laura: papadopoulos. they kept saying he was an impetus for the investigation, the more we learned about that, he seems like a goof ball. carter page, pap dab lou-- we k learning about who is approaching him at the time. >> we were told there were questions about russian interference. the more we learn, it boggles the mind that professionals should have started any
investigation at all over these very pitling things. and they did and they are now admitting they were spying on at least four trump campaign officials and using the powers of the intelligence apparatus do to do this. this is a horrible precedent to set and to be avoiding accountability for it. >> "the new york times" reported on january 20, 2017 there was a fisa warrant on me. i talked to those reporters. they will not retract their story. i asked for a request, it's been denied. >> laura: i'm not saying this as a republican or conservative. i find it frightening that the power of the federal government can be used in this manner and in the middle of a political season with scant evidence. i wish we could hold you to the hour. it's great to have you all in washington and i got saul to
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>> laura: time for our seen a >> laura: time for our seen and unseen segment where we expose what is going on behind the cultural stories of the day. roseanne may be getting less political and is rebutted murray brown about to take on us at fox news. we turn to fox news contributor raymond arroyo. roseanne. >> roseanne is going to back away from politics and focus on the family this season. but today, roseanne tweeted out, abc has been nothing but supported of me. and the press misrepresented what the president of abc said.
she is going to keep an a train of balance between the politics and families. >> laura: if she wants to keep ratings you have to have politics because it's funny and it's real. >> meanwhile, murray brown. wait until you see this. >> laura: let's watch. >> you couldn't tell the evening news from an episode of entertainment tonight. the problem was i didn't know what to do with myself. and then, we had an election. >> whole hog politics. >> laura: i thought she was betty white. >> she moved to the tap owe casset -- t tapioca set. she's going to be a host like morning joe opposite her son.
>> laura: okay. well? then there's a long career more me at fox. >> the cbs entertainment chief said we probably won't get roseanne style ratings. he's right. >> laura: it's not going the last a season. i know you're not a fan of reboots. >> i'm not. one is working on a streaming service. my 15-year-old lorenzo started watching it. it's on youtube red and it's this. >> i heard you beat up a bunch of teenagers. >> i didn't beat up teenagers. i kicked the crap out of a bunch of [ bleep ] who deserved it. >> they think they can bring cobra chi back -- it's the original stars of karate kid. it's biggest streaming show in all of television and is doubling hand maid's tale, stranger things.
why is this working? >> laura: the '80s are making a comeback. all the kids in the '80s rocked. all the hair bands, come on, the great hair bands and great economy, reagan for eight years. it was awesome. >> wax on, wax off, they are killing the competition. and it's just been renewed. >> laura: you know my favorite part? >> sweep the legs, johnny. >> laura: sweep the knee, and the best one is when he is first learning and he looks down at the ground and -- he goes, eyes, danielsan. >> i'm waiting for golden girls, cheers and magnum p.i. >> laura: what about tom wolfe? >> listen, let's watch.
>> the intellectuals in new york, they were startled by that because i was -- i had been writing about a lot of groovy things. they thought i must be like them when it came to politics. when i went into a room full of journalists or writers in general, and people looked at me as if i just raised my hand and said by the way, i forgot to tell you, i'm a child molester. >> laura: he was great. >> the wars, right stuff, limousine liberals. all his terms. >> laura: one of the greatest interviews i did was with tom wolfe. >> are you getting ready for the royal wedding? >> laura: yes. >> i'm preparing too. are you ready? i don't care who takes her down the aisle and at $84 million to
>> ♪ >> laura: immigration crisis >> laura: an immigration crisis might be brewing for paul ryan and his leadership team. we told you last night that the house is five gop votes away from bringing several daca bills to the floor. here to debate it, jeff denim from california and shawn duffy from wisconsin who opposes it. all right, guys, we're going to get into the parliamentary tricks, queen of the hill and
discharge petition. we'll lose the audience. congressman denim you are in favor of turning the house floor over to nancy pelosi to run this debate, why? >> no, not at all. i want to do what paul ryan said. >> but it turns the debate over to the democrats, right? >> not at all. >> the speaker -- >> the discharge petition. >> we control all of the rules. the leader controls the floor debate. paul ryan has his own bill. goodlet has a bell aill and the democrats have a bill too. but we are going to do what the president is asking for and give him a border wall. every year, a half million people come across the southern border. in eight years, that is 4 million people from doing nothing. it's time to act. >> this sounds fantastic. he is practically building the
wall himself over there. >> i think we want to get to the same spot. i don't like the tactic. i don't think the petition is the way to go. i think it turns the floor over to the queen of a hill. here's the deal. we have a wide agreement on trump's four pillars. that will pass. so jeff will vote for that. the freedom caucus will vote for that. all we need to do is put the trump bill in the house. it will pass. >> laura: the goodlatte bill is the way to go. you are worried about the workers coming in. you have to stop this chain migration. that is a mass multiplier with distant relatives hop scotching into the country, chain migration, got to build the wall and reform the asylum process. all that has to be done and get rid of the visa lottery.
that's all in the goodlatte bill. we don't need four bills. >> we don't have the votes for goodlatte. >> laura: that is despicable. >> if donald trump said i want to build a wall. let's come together and put $25 billion in and let's build the wall and make some other tweaks. stop chain migration and deal with daca. it's a package that the president wants and we could vote for it. i don't know what's going to happen in the senate. >> i can't support the goodlatte bill. >> laura: i'm curious, why? >> so many people talk about extending amnesty. i did not support president trump's executive order. i felt it was unconstitutional. i think we need to do real row reform. and just extending obama's policy three years at a time doesn't make sense. we have to fix some of these
problems -- zblu. >> laura: you don't want build the wall? >> of course i do. >> laura: the only problem you have is the amnesty. >> it's an extension of president obama's executive order. >> laura: obama did not deal with chain migration or the visa lottery. if you do that -- >> he did change the dynamic of the kids who have gone to our high school and did it unconstitutionally. if we are going to fix this because it's an american problem. presidents of both parties have kicked this can down the road. >> laura: this will swied dwooid the party. he wants to end chain migration. that's all he says. >> two weeks ago he said specifically if we do not have
this done he did not want to see a cr. >> if you don't end chain migration -- >> laura: the parents are all the staying, too. no one is going home. >> we have to fix that part of it as well. but the key is donald trump ran on the wall, let's build it. >> laura: donald trump did not win on giving amnesty to the daca kids. he won on the border security and building the wall. that berkley poll is devastating, 59% want somewhat important or very important to deport these people. >> but the president has democrats on notice as well. the democrats had 42 billion out of the senate and every democrat in the house. i think it's time to put them to the test as well. >> the republicans done want to turn this over to nancy pelosi. she will deal with it.
the county blames i.c.e. for failing to get a warrant. but the head of i.c.e.'s chicago office said marion county ignored an immigration detainer and released a mexican woman from the jail without notifying i.c.e. the pastor was at the scene of the hit and run and joins us from indianapolis. it is another shocker to hear the facts of this. thank goodness jessica survived. but your feelings given now we know that the perpetrator is gone. they tried to approach her at her supposed place of residence and the door was answered by someone who said she didn't live there any more. >> i think we're at crisis point in our country and certainly, here in indianapolis, when someone who nearly kills someone is released, less than a week after the incident occurred.
and the agencies involved for making sure she is held accountable for what happened, not doing enough. we need to be more conscientious about these kinds of things to make sure they don't happen again in the future. >> laura: and i think a lot of americans, they don't hear these crimes reported. we try to keep track of them. many news organizations will not report the legal status or illegal status or the perpetrators of the accused, of the arrested. so you have to really dig for this information. in this case we were able to get it. what's amazing here is jessica, who suffered the broken leg and more minor injuries. but the broken leg, was thrown from the car, she's forgiving the assailant who has now apparently absconded. >> that is something that is not surprising to me that jessica did forgive her and certainly we
all do. but there is accountability. and this young woman, ms. nunez fled the scene. if not for a daycare work whoever was in the bus who chased her down in the bus and another citizen also making sure that she was detained, we would never have noknown possibly who had done this. for local authorities to release her on bond which is something that was not thought through as thoroughly as it should have been. ms. nunez is offera benefit off to a u.s. citizen. but she had a level 6 felony. so she should never have been released from the jail. >> you have been following the sanctuary policies in places like california where this kind of stuff happens all the time.
there are rampant hit and runs, dwis, duis in areas of the country especially populated by illegal aliens. and we have a trail of victims behind. your final thoughts quickly? >> i think we are sending the wrong message across the nation when these kind of things happen and it's very unfortunate that we would have any city that would protect anyone who is participating in lawless behavior and for the individuals who are facilitating and financing that lawlessness. >> laura: it is a shocker that this happened. we really appreciate your joining us tonight and we'll stay on the story. we'll be right back.
stormy daniels's lawyer in sag harbor, looks like they are having fun. they didn't invite me. is that what objective journalists do on the weekends? shannon bream is up next. shannon: maybe our invite got lost in the mail. we pick it up with a fox news alert. developments tonight from chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge on prompt fire hurricane, secret origins of the fbi investigation targeting the trump campaign she is also tracking, the inspector general report of the fbi hillary clinton email investigation. are these leaks coming from those who know they are about to be in very big trouble? jim jordan fired up about that at the prospect of a vote on