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than the president? she's almost up to you. you're like 75 million? >> 12. 12 or 12 people. >> okay. thanks for joining us. >> "outnumbered" starts now. >> we begin with a fox news alert. we're awaiting the arrival of a top north korean official at kennedy airport. kim young chul is expected to meet with mike pompeo. the white house continues to lay the ground work to revive a potential summit on the denuclearization of the korean peninsula. we'll bring it live to you. this is "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. here today, sandra smith. town hall editor, katie pavlich. host of kennedy on fox business, kennedy. the center seat, judge andrew napolitano. outnumbered and ready to go. >> happily so with some of my
closest friends. >> great to have you, judge. >> a lot of news. let's get to it. kim young chul is on his way to new york city expected to arrive within a couple hours this afternoon. secretary of state mike pompeo is also expected in new york after the secretary meets with president trump at the white house this afternoon. the latest move as the
but the thinking around the white house here today is that the june 12th date for this summit really looks like it could be on track. the press secretary, sarah sanders, yesterday aboard fair force one on the president's way to tennessee said "the president's letter specifically said that we were open to the meeting at the time and again we expect it too take place. we'll see what happens. we're going to be prepared if it takes place june 12, we'll be prepared. to it takes place at a later date, we'll be prepared for that as well." a lot of people think june 12
could happen. some people think it might have to be delayed a couple days, maybe a week. a lot goes forward will depend on the meetings that mike pompeo is having with the man you see there, kim young chul. he's going to be meeting with him in new york city. likely later on today, tomorrow morning as well. the highest ranking north korean official to come to the united states in 18 years. likely that a person of his rank wouldn't come all the way here up less there was a good chance of putting something together. listen to what the state department spokeswoman heather nauert said yesterday. >> this will be the secretary's third meeting with kim young chul. they've had obviously very deep conversations where they have talked about a lot of detail, what the united states's expectations are. it's important that we're going to new york. i know the secretary looks forward to engaging him in new york. >> pointed out as well, the
rhetoric out of north korea has been remarkably restrained. harris, the one person we have not heard from is the deputy foreign minister that really got things going when she said those things about the vice president and then threatened a nuclear confrontation with the united states if these negotiations didn't bear fruit. so everyone playing nice at the moment. again, the secretary state has met with kim young chul three times previously. so they know something of each other and we'll find out likely by this time tomorrow whether they can get something done. >> john roberts, thanks very much. so john sets up the conversation for us, judge andrew napolitano. with the facts on the ground, things are moving. >> this general with whom secretary pompeo is meeting is also the head of their intelligence services. he's the equivalent of mike pompeo when he ran the cia.
when heather nauert said this is the third time they're meeting, the third time as secretary state. but they met before as head of intelligence agencies. so they know each other. here's the issue. what does denuclearization mean? there's an american expert this morning said it would take 15 years for a total denuclearization. will denuclearization, whatever it is, satisfy donald trump that the american public can no longer be threatened and give kim some ability to say, i can still defend ourselves? >> what is interesting, it buys time. you know, this is the beginning of the conversation. that's just it. maybe it buys time for both sides. >> that's why president trump has said, don't worry, kim jong-un, we will protect you, you'll be safe. the north korean regime's entire
premise for having nuclear weapons is to preserve the regime of kim jong-un and his family in that position. so for a long time, there's in enormous gap between what the united states wants, which is complete denuclearization, what china wants saying you can push them to get rid of nuclear weapons for bad purposes and threatening the world but we don't think you can ask them to completely denuclearization. they're more on the same page as north korea in that page. they're saying we're willing to blow up a tunnel here a tunnel there. they've done it in the past. when it comes to preserving the regime, it will be a tough sell to the north koreans about how the united states and adversaries will protect them from people getting slaughtered in the streets. >> and we don't want them in a position to sell weapons to others that would want them. >> like his friends in iran. >> they've been making transactions with iran and
pakistan. that horse has left the barn. they're comfortable with the international black market when it comes to buying whatever it is they need, whether it's sissile material or other aides to emboldening their nuclear program or oil and coal, which they have gotten from china and some of their shrinking pool of allies. back to what katie talked about. this is a really specific dance. it's like when someone is trapped in the wilderness for days and starving but they can't eat because they'll get sick and could die. you know, it's -- unlikely that north korea would want to gorge or the free market. if that doesn't go as well as they want and they want this deal set up in stages and the beginning stages don't go to their liking and they're not making as much money as they could and they don't have control over their society as
they would like, they're more likely to back out of future stages of the deal. that's what they talk about with preparations. they have to make sure there's stop gaps in place -- >> because capitolism will produce civil liberties. >> that's what terrifies them the most. >> and we know there's the delegation from the united states in the dmz zone. they have -- or dmz. they put things in place now that are tangible for us to watch. >> we have to also take it to the right now. we've been talking so big picture about this for so long. now we're coming down to minutes an hours here. we don't know the exact timing of the meeting to take place behind the north korean's right-hand man and mike pompeo. when i talked to governor richardson earlier today who has a lot of background knowledge dealing with the north koreans, he suggested it's time to let mike pompeo take the lead here.
the president and his team sit back and let mike pompeo do his thing as you started when we let off the hour here. he's done multiple meetings now with them. >> he's -- i once spent three days with them while we did seminars together. he's a very savvy experienced guy. i'm speaking of bill richardson that gives in this respect not democrat advice or republican advice but good sound patriotic advice. the president needs to know in advance what the agreements will be. if you can't get agreements done by june 12, there's no magic to that. i agree with you that mike pompeo has to have a long leash, so to speak. >> the one thing i would wonder about, too, you talk about the relationship based on three meetings. it's more than what we've had in three years with north korean leadership. how important is it to have the relationship with the secretary of state and the foreign official that is comincoming?
>> he can be changed like that. he slaughtered his own uncle. but -- >> there's other family members missing as well. >> correct. right now the leader in new york is a four-star general, the number 2 ranking person in all of north korea. it's very important that mike pompeo who has a great personality, bonds with him. >> i would add, too, that mike pompeo's experience at the cia is not just about the three meetings at his belt. the overall intelligence he's gathered while in the cia, which we saw what happened with kim jong-un as he was confirmed before secretary of state. >> i'm going to step in here. we have a controversial bill. it's a bill that lets terminally ill people utilize experimental drugs that have not been looked at or approved by the fda. this is something the white house announced last friday and
something that the president has held as a priority and for the vice president as well. you know, what is interesting about this, today as the president we're anticipating to walk up in the white house and step up to that lectern and then to the table to sign this bill, today follows that rally that the president just had in nashville, tennessee where he talked about taking a fresh look at healthcare issues. so as that happens live, we'll take you there. let's come back to the issue at hand and talk a little bit more about what we think needs to be done before july 12, katie. june 12. >> june 12. 13 days away. it takes 1 1/2 days to get there. we're looking at ten days that we have between now and then. it's important to go back to the beginning of this when the president agreed to meet with kim jong-un at the summit. they said at the beginning, we're not putting any agreements on the table. this is a first step. so there can be conditions that are put down on the table for discussion. in terms of getting a deal
before that deadline is ambitious. something that the white house hasn't talked about. whether they're going to get there in ten days, i don't know. people are working and said it's going to be june 12 or could be delayed. >> i see no down side to president trump to delay this for two weeks. if mike pompeo and this north korean general are on a roll, but need more time. >> it's interesting. the president seems to be married to dates and markers and sign posts. >> that's the way he thinks. >> that's because he's seen a congress, when you wipe away a date, they get nothing done. >> more of a wedding date. something that now has significance and resonates in people's minds. >> it's very difficult to postpone a wedding. you book the caterer and the band and paid for the cake and love in the air, even if one
partner -- >> yeah. they're out there, sold out, but this is -- >> i don't know. we're going to move on. >> i think he's married to this date and it will happen on june 12 or won't happen. >> very interesting. >> the president slamming democrats over immigration ahead of the mid-term election. is this strategy that could work for republicans? the president is not backing down on his attacks on the russia investigation. his latest accusations as rudy guliani, the top attorney now, sets a big condition for any sit-down with robert mueller. stay close. alright, i brought in new max protein
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>> the president's lawyer, rudy guliani, ratcheting up pressure on robert mueller's special counsel again. rudy guliani telling the "washington post" that the president will not sit for an interview with the special counsel until his legal team gets all documents related to the fbi's use of an informant on the trump campaign. just last night, the president continued to press the issue at that political rally in nashville. >> so how do you like the fact they had people infiltrating our campaign? can you imagine? can you imagine? never in the history of our
country has something taken place like took place during this election. >> trey gowdy himself, a former federal prosecutor, pushing back against the president's claims. gowdy was among a select group of congressmen briefed by the doj on their use of an informant. watch. >> i am even more convinced that the fbi did what my fellow citizens would want them to do when they got the information they got and that it has nothing to do with donald trump. >> whoa. i was with him last night when he said that. we were on martha maccallum's show together. we cheated beforehand. here's what it is. when he visited or was visited by bob wright and -- or chris wray and rod rosenstein, they showed him the unredacted memos from james comey.
in one of those memos, the redacted part, it said the president said to me i, the president, had nothing to do with any collusion. but if anybody in my campaign did, i want you to investigate it. so bob mueller has taken that instruction to james comey as donald trump wants to know if others in the campaign had any communication with the russians. that is what congressman gowdy was referring to. when the president says this has never happened before, this doesn't justify it, but it has happened before. l.b.j. persuaded j. edgar hoover to have the fbi spy on barry goldwater in 1964. l.b.j. didn't need this. it was one of the greatest landslides in history. but some ex-aides have boasted, we had copies of barry goldwater speeches before he gave them.
i wonder what favor j. edgar hoover got for pulling that off. >> the president was on fire when talking about this last night, katie. >> the interesting thing about trey gowdy's comments about them not -- the informant targeting russians that are trying to influence the trump campaign line up with some of the memos that james comey wrote when he said, we were looking at russian infiltration and propaganda affecting the campaign. we were trying to protect the president. that being said, president trump's campaign was warned in the summer of 2016 that the russians might try to influence them. they were not told the fbi was using a spy to gather information and to bring it back that is the issue. it's been very unclear what that informant was doing and that's the question that people have. were that there for valid purposes or were that there for political purposes as we've seen -- >> i think you hit the nail in the head, katie.
>> is there any legality that we didn't know that contemporaneously? paul ryan has been asking that question, too. >> i don't know why we just found this out now. the use of an informant, this professor that we're asked not to mention his name, to belly up to a bar and have a conversation with someone in the campaign is a stunningly unremarkable event. because law enforcements does this all the time. rudy guliani said they put an undercover fbi agent in the campaign. there's zero evidence for that. that is such an outlandish and outrageous allegation. it should not have been made without showing any evidence. >> you know this from last night but trey gowdy made one thing clear, donald trump was never a target in this investigation. listen to this. >> wray and rod rosenstein made it clear to us, donald trump was never the target of the
investigation and not the current target. that can all change depending on what a witness says, but as of now, chris wray and rod rosenstein are stunned when they think trump is the target. >> target means the government has decided an indictment. subject is they're still investigating. the subject could still be the president. you can go from a subject the a target like that. >> but what strikes me about this, the fact that you have the fbi who is so concerned about infiltration in the campaign that they told the dnc that someone is fishing around your servers and we believe that they have broken through. they also knew that there were russians that were targeting members of the trump campaign team, but they decided to withhold that information, which is still very bizarre to me.
i don't understand the openness with one political party or one side of the campaign and the fact that they had shut everything down. it seems to me that that is serious. if you have russians trying to contact vulnerable young members of your campaign staff -- >> why not tell the candidate. >> why not tell jeff session whose is acting on behalf of the campaign? he was not only a sitting u.s. senator, he was one of the early adapters of trumpism and he was also someone that is a federal prosecutor and knows the law. plenty of people that the fbi could have told about any sort of nefarious -- >> the fbi will say we didn't want the word to get out. i agree. donald trump himself should have been told, this is a judgment call. i don't think it was bizarre that they made this decision and i'm sure -- >> you don't think it's political? >> i hope not. >> we have to leave it there. a lot of talk about strategy at that rally as well. president trump targeting democrats on immigration ahead
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let's do some card twirling twirling cards e*trade. the original place to invest online. >> president trump bashing congressional democratic leaders on immigration in make america great rally in tennessee last night. and phil bredesen is running for bob corker's seat in the mid-terms. >> our laws are the worst laws of any country anywhere in the world. catch and release. you ever hear? you catch, you take their name and you release. democrats want to use it as a campaign issue. i keep saying i hope they do. the fact is, the democrats are lousy politicians, they're lousy on policy. phil bredesen, if he were to get
elected, he would do whatever chuck and nancy -- remember the term? "chuck and nancy." they don't want the wall. they want open borders. they're more interested in taking care of criminals than they are in taking care of you. >> bredesen is set to square off against marsha blackburn in november. blackburn is a vocal supporter of president trump on the campaign trail. the race is a toss-up by fox news. did the president move the meter and congressman blackburn's members? >> i was on "fox and friends" first two days seems like but it was 5:30 a.m. we had a guest on who runs the meter. here's what independents think. here's what democrats think. here's what republicans think. the bashing of bredesen did not
go over well with bredesen. he's a joe manchin type. i know the president wants blackburn in there. he's the type of democrat that you can work with. he's as much like nancy pelosi as i am. >> judge, we have breaking news. the president is about to sign the rigbill into law, this is something the white house is advocating for. it's for families that can gain access now, terminally ill patients that want to try experimental drug treatments not approved by the fda, this is some way that they can gain access to those drugs. what this does, too, and the vice president was just on stage before he introduced the president, he's now meeting with the families, thanked him for his fight for this. this puts the access in the hands of all americans that are terminally ill. some groups like the american cancer society have pushed
against this. some democrats have pushed against it saying that it puts those patients who, again, are terminally ill, at risk because the fda may not have vetted the drugs. right now the president is about to sign the bill. let's watch it. >> this is a very important moment, a very important day. i've been looking forward to this for a long time along with senator ron johnson. i will tell you, we worked hard on this. i will never understood why it's hard. they've been trying to have it passed for years. i never understood why. i'd say people, friends of mine and other people i'd read about where they travel all over the world looking for a cure. we have the best medical people in the world, but we have trials and we have long time, 12 years, 15 years, even when things looked promising, so many years. i never understood this. they work very hard.
i want to thank vice president pence for helping us so much. he was in there. i said we have to get it approved. he was working it. in my state of the union address four months ago, i called on congress to pass right to try. a great name. some bills, they don't have a good name. okay? they really don't. but this is a great name. from the first day i heard it, it's so perfect. "right to try." a lot of that trying will be successful. i believe it. so we did it. we went through the senate. we went through the house. the house had a bill. the senate had a bill. we would go and mush them together, go back and take votes. and i said, do me a favor, tell me which is the better bill for the people, not for the understand, not for the insurance companies or pharmaceutical companies. i don't care about them.
i could care less. [applause] and that's the bill -- i won't tell you which one. they said one in particular was great for the people. not so good for the others, great for the people. we don't care about the others right now. giving terminally ill patients the right to try experimental life-saving treatments. some of these treatments are so promising. and we're moving that timeline way up anyway, beyond this. we're moving it way up. it's still a process that takes years. know it takes up to 15 years, even 20 years some of these treatments are going. but for many years, patients, advocates and lawmakers have fought for this fundamental freedom. incredibly, they couldn't get it. there were runs. a lot of it was business. a lot of it was pharmaceuticals,
a lot was liability. i said you take care of that stuff. that's what we did. today i'm proud to keep another promise to the american people as i sign the right to try legislation into law. [applause] right? [applause] if i looked like that, i would have been president ten years earlier. if i had that face. if i had that head of hair, i would have been president so long ago. that's great. so i want to thank a couple of people. secretary izar is here. please stand up. you have worked so hard on this. [applause]
thank you very much. really done a great job. we're going to have another exciting news conference the next three weeks, four weeks. what do you think? when healthcare -- have great healthcare. we got rid of the individual mandate. without that, we couldn't be doing what we're doing in a few weeks. we're going to have great inexpensive but really great healthcare. and we have two plans coming out. we also have through our great secretary of labor, we have a great plan coming out. that is through associations. so we're going to have two plans coming out. for the most part, we will have gotten rid of the majority of obamacare. gotten tremendous -- [applause] could have had it done easier. somebody decided not to vote for us. it's one of those things. i want to thank secretary azar
and commissioner gottlieb. where are you, scott? [applause] and scott, let me ask you, so it takes years and years to get this approved, right? you're bringing down -- beyond this, you're bringing down that period of time. what is the average time now it takes for were a major medicine or cure -- what is the average time it takes to go through the system and get an approval? >> 3 to 7 years. >> and so go over ten, right? and you're bringing that down? trying to bring it down? for safety. very good. and you in particular, you're very happy with this, you? >> yes. >> you have a lot of good things in the wings that if you moved them up a lot of people would have a great shot? [inaudible] right. that's fantastic. thank you, scott. we're proud of the job you're doing. we're also working very hard and
getting the cost of medicine down. people will see for the first time ever in this country a major drop in the cause of prescription drugs. right? [applause] mr. secretary, that's already happening, right? you would tell me yesterday we're seeing a tremendous improvement. you're going to have big news, we're going to have big drug companies in two weeks and they're going to announce because of what we did. they're going to announce voluntary massive drops in prices. that's great. that's going to be a fantastic thing. we're working on some great things, aren't we, when you think about it, ron? pretty good, huh? we could do some of those healthcare, drug prices, but this is the baby. we would not be here today
without the tireless efforts of dedicated members of congress. that's so true. i want to especially thank senator ron johnson, stand up, please, ron. [applause] his tremendous leadership, he doesn't stop. he doesn't give up. good for all of us. this guy, ron, very capable. he just doesn't give up. when we started working, i knew this would happen. i want to thank senator donnelly. very good. thank you. [applause] a fantastic young gentleman, brian fitzpatrick of pennsylvania. brian, congratulations. i know how hard you work, brian. [applause] and dr. michael burgess.
you like being called "doctor" or "congressman?" i like doctor. we'll call him doctor. [applause] thank you, michael. great job. i know how hard everybody worked. everybody appreciates it. the country appreciates it. nobody understood why this wasn't happening. they've been talking about this how long, ron? 25 years? a long time. a lot of talk. politicians, a lot of talk. i also want to thank energy and commerce committee chairman, greg walden who is not here but he worked hard with us. he did. [applause] and thanks to state and local officials that fought for this important cause. they fought so hard so many of them. i want to thank you for the incredible work you've done on behalf of these and all wonderful americans. anybody can be there some day,
anybody can be there. could you all stand up, the state and local people? you have been -- thank you. thank you. [applause] couldn't have done it without the state and local. i appreciate it. great job. thank you. most of all, we're honored to be joint by several americans for whom this build is named. matthew bollina who is battling als and his incredible wife, katelyn. [applause] laura mclynn and her son, jordan who is battling muscular dystrophy. [applause] thanks for being with us,
jordan. i'll have some good answers for you. you're going to be happy. frank mongello who is battling als and is joined by his wife, marilyn and their six children. wow! fantastic. fantastic. [applause] six children. finally, i want to thank for being here and introduce tim wendlor who lost his wife to als and joined by their three children. tim, thank you very much. [applause] >> i want to thank you all about being here.
you have extraordinary coverage, determination and love. you have love. real love. thanks to you, the countless american lives will ultimately be saved. we'll be saving -- i don't want to say thousands because i think it's going to be more. thousands and thousands, hundreds of thousands. we're going to be saving tremendous numbers of lives. it's so great that you're up here with us and we're all on the front line together. each year thousands of terminally ill patients suffer while waiting for new and experimental drugs to receive final fda approval. takes a long time and the time is coming down. while we were streamlining and doing a lot of streamlining, the current fda approval process can take as scott just said many years, many, many years. for countless patients time is not what they have. they don't have an abundance of
time. with the right to try law today patient with life threatening illnesses will have access to experimental treatments that could improve or even cure their conditions. these are experimental treatments and products that have shown great promise and we weren't able to use them before. now we can use them. oftentimes they're going to be very successful. an incredible thing. the right to try law helps those that don't qualify for clinical trials or have exhausted all available treatment options. there's no options, but now you have hope. you really have hope. matthew, who is here with us, is just one example of many americans that today has new cause for hope due to the late
progression of his als. he doesn't qualify for any clinical trials in the united states. he wouldn't qualify. couldn't do it. they tried. didn't qualify. despite his limited mobility and budget, he was planning on traveling thousands of miles away to israel to receive a treatment that is still awaiting fda approval in america. no one in matt's position should ever have to travel from our great country to another continent or another country to receive a treatment. now with the passage of this bill, americans will seek cures right here at home close to their family and their loved ones. we are finally giving these wonderful americans the right to try. so important. [applause]
america has always been a nation of fighters that never give up. right? we never give up, ever, right? never give up. we're fighters like the amazing patients and families here today. now as i proudly signed -- this is very important for me. as i proudly sign this bill, thousands of terminally ill americans will finally have the help, the hope and the fighting chance. and i think it's going to be better than a chance, that they will be cured, that they will be helped, that they'll be able to be with their families for a long time or maybe just for a longer time. but we're able to give them the absolute best as to what we have
at this current moment, at this current second. and now we're going to help a lot of people. we're going to help a lot of people. so it's an honor to be signing this. if i might, i think i'll present -- i think i have to do this, ron. i have to present this good looking guy with the first pen. is that okay? you don't mind. i'm going to do that. [applause]
>> the president of the united states has laid out his case for why he's signing the right to try bill into law right now. those are family members who have been fighting the battle. some family members that couldn't join because they're deceased. other survivors along the road who have access to experimental drugs that the fda has been slow because of the way it does its processing to approve or have -- is on the merge of approved, whatever the situation there, the president talking to the commissioner of of the fda saying this will speed things up for those families. the right to try bill. terminally ill people have a right to try experimental drugs now. and now to another story that the president was making news last night at the rally. president trump weighing in on the controversy over the firing of roseanne barr. the president's take ahead.
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jarrett does not comments like she said towards her. and he never said the horrible statements made about me on abc. maybe i didn't get the call. the president weighing in on this controversy. harris? >> yeah. judge you and i talked before the show about whether the president should get involved in this. >> i don't think he should get involved at all. now he's involved. he's talking about it himself. getting people to talk about him and roseanne. it's a lose, lose, lose for the president. i'm sorry he sent this tweet out but he did. >> most of us read this tweet, i thought -- said oh, no. if the was president going to weigh-in, how should she have in your opinion? >> because of his public affiliation with her, he praised the show. the best thing to do is to say nothing. >> can you agree with that? stay out of it? >> as the president has been
saying, he's has big issues like north korea, the economy, the right to try bill that he signed today. he's frustrated with people focusing on little things that cause big controversies and then he says something like, this doesn't help him in any way. there's a double standard with black conservatives and the black media -- >> it's not the time. >> yeah. a different story. i would say when i checked roseanne's tweet, she blocked me back in the day, so i tried to look at it. i couldn't. >> she personally blocked you? >> i have been blocked on twitter be roseanne. >> yesterday, kennedy you and i had a lot of conversations about free speech. i made the comment this is free speech. we talk about it and there's times when it's hard. i think back to 2017, the n word on her show.
she didn't just pop up as a racist. a lot of ground was laid. the comments that i made yesterday, free speech is not excommunicated from consequences. so now what we have, free speech gives us the truth. you can identify people and identi identify the truth about who they are. consequences come up. we've seen it at fox. >> you can make clearly the argument and how it occurred to me earlier this morning, abc knew what they were talking on. they knew -- >> absolutely. >> there's no more of a known quantity than roseanne. we're prude when we're outraged. at the same time, we're used to a very coarse political dialogue. they wanted her coarseness but wanted her on this side of the
line. but abc did fire bill mahr. >> and he was rewarded with another show. that's the point i'm trying to make. so pauly dean also dropped the n word. then she was on "dancing with the stars." all i'm saying is the truth -- free speech brings us the truth we need to identify people. >> we also have to decide where those lines are. you know, people get so outraged selectively. that's the thing. it seems like the cultural justice is applied with imbalance. how does something like -- >> free speech is not free of all consequence. it means free of consequence from the government. if there's racists and bigots, we want to know who they are. >> yes. i mentioned fox. we had an executive that wrote "gayer darker not good for the
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>> no. some of the things we talked about today are worth crying over. >> sandra: harris got a paper cut. she might be coming. thank you for joining us. harris, here she is. >> harris: fox news alert. a top north korean official is set to land any minute in the united states as summit talk picks up steam. we will go "outnumbered overtime" now. i'm harris faulkner. new york's j.f.k. airport is where kim young chol, the north korean official known as kim jong un's right-hand man is expected to arrive in the next hour or so. the former spy chief will be the highest ranking official in nearly two decades to visit america. he will meet with secretary of state mike pompeo as the white house says it now expects president trump's summit with kim jong un to take place. all this as the new c.i.a. assessment reportedly concluded kim's regime has no intention of giving up the nuclear weapons at any time on o