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call for a free quote today. you could save $782 when liberty stands with you. liberty mutual insurance. >> we're going to be june 12, we'll be in singapore. it will be a beginning. i have never said it happens in one meeting. we're talking about years of hostility. years of problems. years of hatred between so many different nations. i think you're going to have a very positive result in the end. >> well, it is on in the end. i'm neil cavuto. this is "your world." a week ago this looked dicey if not doubtful, if not impossible. right now, back on june 12 in singapore. hopefully news organizations didn't cancel hotel reservations because they're going to be impossible to get back right now. to kevin corke at the white house with the very latest on what happened today in the oval
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office. sir? >> what a day it has been, neil. i think it's probably going to be a very successful meeting. that's what we heard the president tell reporters not long after the conclusion of that meeting. north korean officials said listen, pack your bags. the trip is on. the summit is on for singapore on june 12. what a turnabout when you senior where we were a few days ago. a rare gathering indeed at the white house between leaders of washington and pyongyang. the first in two decades. a top official from the hermit kingdom has come here. what began as an expected delivery of a letter from kim jong-un and perhaps a brief visit morphed into an 80-minute ranging discussion of a number of topics from denuclearization, security, sanctions and more. the president was asked if he might extend an olive branch to the north by curbing sanctions and he was asked about the so-called maximum pressure
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campaign. >> i look forward to the day where i can take the sanctions off of north korea. i don't want to use the term "maximum pressure" anymore. we're getting along. it's not a term of maximum pressure. >> what an amazing interview. he talked quite a while. he was optimistic about what might happen in particular in the wake of today's meeting. i want to caution everybody, there's a soberness here at the white house, cautious optimism. the north has made promises and reneged on them. i go back to 2000 when north korean officials met with former president, bill clinton. that was in october of that year. they thought they had a deal. they thought they would get rid of their nukes. they were confident. unfortunately for them and all of us, all was for not.
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we did not get a read-out specifically of the letter that the president received. if i get one, i guarantee you i'll bring it to you first. for now, back to you. >> neil: we're going to have more on that. great job as always. kevin corke at the white house. so we'll have more on the letter. what about the insurances that kim jong-un gave here or relayed here? that might be different than negotiations his father entered with bill clinton and george w. bush and to say nothing what his grandfathers use to do. they said one thing and would do another. morgan ortega sweating out the details. but this is a remarkable event for china's number 2 to be meeting in the oval office for as long as he was and for the president of the united states to escort him out. something he normally doesn't do. what did you make of this? >> i feel like we're watching season 2 that we're bing
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watching season 2 of united states and north korea. i said on fox, this is like for foreign policy geeks like me, this is the best soap opera that we've seen. the people that are most surprised, neil, had to be the north koreans. you can imagine two years ago or even a year ago, they probably had no thought that a senior north korean official would be in the white house. now we're seeing a lot of criticism from the democrats about the way trump is handling this. but i have to say, i think this administration, especially secretary pompeo and especially the president, have it is forth a precedent that the status quo, the way that the united states has operated over the past 30 years of north korea will not stand under this president. so we tried it every way possible with north koreans. we have an incredibly sober ambassador, john bolton, a sober secretary pompeo that understand what the north koreans are up to. they understand the game. they should definitely in my opinion not try to play the
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president the way they have played past presidents. >> neil: i brought up that very subject with bill richardson, the former ambassador, the one that negotiated for the clinton administration the initial north korean deal a similar one was orchestrated under president bush. the north koreans cheated on it, lied on that. so i asked him what -- >> what a surprise. >> neil: what do you do to make sure history doesn't repeat itself? he said you watch them every step of the way. a little late for what they did in the past. what about now going into this deal? >> well, i think we learned a lot of lessons from the iran deal. i think -- we talked about this many times, you and i have. one of the biggest problems with how that deal was negotiated is that we were so eager to come to the table. we were so desperate for a deal. i think by cancelling the meeting last weekend, clearly had started again, this president has shown and i think that he and his administration will continue to show that they're not so desperate for a
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deal that they'll give up the farm for it. so he's talked in his statement about lifting economic sanctions. ainistration should be very careful in doing so. they should be very proud of what they've done at the u.n. some of the most comprehensive sanctions that we've seen globalry against the north koreans. clearly the russians are trying to undercut us. we saw that with lavrov yesterday -- >> neil: and the president wasn't happy about it. he said it was what it was. but then sort of -- the diplomatic term is worming their way in here is disconcerting but he let it move on. >> i think the russians have been completely cut out in a sense publicly from these negotiations. behind the scenes, let's not be naive. i'm sure they're consulting with the north koreans. there's so much to impact here now. it's not just about nuclear weapons. it's about human rights and ballistic missiles and chemical weapons. you're not talking about saddam
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that pretended to have a few weapons and the libyans that were on an elementary path compared to where the north koreans are. the administration and i find the rhetoric to be very straightforward. they're saying this has to be irreversible denuclearization. this has to be complete. the language they're using is incredibly tough. i think the president knows how to get to a deal and one of the things for me, you know, the comforting is that you see people like ambassador bolton that has their number, he know what's the north koreans are up to. he has a lot of strong people on his side. the one thing i would say, reiterate, the status quo, what is existed the past 30 years cannot continue to go on. we cannot have what we did in the iran deal. we were so desperate to get to the table, so -- >> neil: and we showed it. thank you very much. >> thanks, neil. >> neil: a lot of breaking news, including letter. the president himself joking about it a short time ago.
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>> i haven't opened it. i didn't open it in front of the director. i said would you want me to open it? he said you can read it later. i may be in for a big surprise, folks. >> neil: he was referring to the letter apparently from kim jong-un that was give to him by kim young chul that was at the white house today. the president opting not to read it in front of them here. but kidding about it. we're told that it was a very -- sort of a straightforward approach to tell the president. we want something done. no promises, no things ruled in or out. historian, evan thomas on the significance the letters, period. evan, we know from the past that even in this day and age, the written word and acknowledging something, you know, pen-to-paper makes a big difference. we can go all the way back to j.f.k. and his meetings with khrushchev. enlighten me. >> it's personal. during the cuban missile crisis, the worst crisis ever, the head
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of russian, khrushchev wrote a partial letter to kennedy saying, hey, we cannot have world war iii here. the bureaucrats wrote another tough letter and kennedy chose to answer the first letter, the personal letter from khrushchev. that helped save the world. personal diplomacy through a letter helped save our lives. >> neil: yeah. choosing the letter that they did paved the way for deescalation.and i remember ronald reagan and gorbachev. ronald reagan was a fan of writing a letter, conveying his thoughts on paper. that approach is something that he valued and it was reciprocated. >> he was. reagan and gorbachev met in iceland. got to the point in the personal conversation where they talked about eliminating nuclear
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weapons altogether. didn't happen. you can shea they went too far. that was an important step towards ending the cold war. personal diplomacy makes a difference. it rattled diplomats. it's like everything will get out of control. it's scary to have the principles meet. scary to subordinates. we know it can make a difference. >> neil: it's a ritual where one president handing off the baton to the other, writes a letter and leave it's it in the oval office desk for his successor to read. it's very powerful. doesn't guarantee peace, harmony and love between the two. but it is a process that we hon honor. why is that? >> i think especially in the age of the internet, the personal letter is more personal. >> neil: absolutely. >> the letter i'm thinking
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about, l.b.j. left behind the body counts in vietnam. his personal reaction to the men dying. richard nixon saw those. it had an impact on nixon. the personal communications. other authors have said there's a president's club where they communicate with each other, by letter, sometimes in person and it's a bond that is important. it's lonely being the leader of the free world or being a leader. you need to be understood by people that understand you, been in your shoes, been there before. that is why these communications between presidents are important, even different parties. it's just critically important that the connections can be made by letter, face-to-face. they're important. >> neil: the letter thing is important. we live to your very astute
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observation. rushed texts and tweets and quick exchanges on the phone. a letter is something that you sit down, you think about it, type it or write it. in abraham lincoln's days, he wrote them. he question quite a few people. not on generals with whom he was displeased, but war widows and many, many more. and they carried lasting impact, didn't they? >> sure. i mean, one of the problems with the internet is that we rap out these quick messages. writing a letter long, makes you think. you have to think about it. thought is too often missing in communications between any of us in this modern age. we whip stuff off. writing a letter has a healthy
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deliberateness of it. we have to stop and think, particularly with nuclear weapons. >> neil: there is that. thanks, evan. noted historian, best selling author and by the way, he writes letters. we're going to explore this letter writing tomorrow on "cavuto live", this is important issue to get into. thei the issue of letters and making a difference and stepping aside from the web and the media and all that. and you kids with all of this, it's an interesting development how it changes history. more detail tomorrow live on "cavuto live." in the middle of this trade war, it could get nasty. but wall street didn't seem to care. why the president upping the tariff ante had wall street shrugging their shoulders. we're on it after this.
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>> all of these countries, including european union, they charge five times -- we don't charge tariffs. they charge five times what we charge for tariffs. and i believe in the world reciprocal. you're going to charge five times, we're going to charge five times. that hasn't been done. no other president brought it up and it's going to be done now. >> neil: all right. today's d-day to make sure it happens. the president reimplementing tariffs on steel coming in from foreign countries. it works out to about 10% on aluminum related products. it goes after the mexicans, the canadians, the europeans, all of whom saying they will respond in kind. mexico promised to target a light number of u.s. goods equalling the same amount. that would include everything from grapes and berries and pork
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chops, cheese products, cold cuts. the canadians said they will address everything from steel and aluminum to whiskey and orange juice that makes its way to their country. so what is going on? dan simmons, the united steel worker's local. thanks for taking the time. >> you're welcome. it's a mess and it is something that we all need to be discussing. this is what is difficult, neil. it's kind of a bitter sweet. we've been pushing and advocating for some assistance, government assistance for quite some time. specifically to our bad trade partners that have been illegally dumping and harming our steel and aluminum for many years. i've been advocating for ten years plus. we've been falling on deaf ears.
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now we pushed hard enough and lobbied hard enough to get these investigations started. the commerce department did in fact find harm to the degree of very stiff degrees to impose the 25% and 10% on the aluminum. the problem is, it's a broad brush. we have many countries that are bad trade partners, but we have equally good trade partners. you know, the canada, our sisters and brothers. they're part of the usw with us. >> neil: so the fact that there's so many of your canadian colleagues part of this and they're getting hurt by this, so you guys almost had no choice but to reject this. but it is helping jobs for steel workers. you don't agree with that? >> it should equate to some jobs creation specifically here in the domestic markets obviously. it's going to open up opportunities for the steel industry in the united states
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and along with aluminum. yes, should equate to that. obviously it's early on. yeah, i see no other way and should equate to some job creation and some pricing along with sustainable products. >> neil: and the tariffs, the thought was cooler heads would prevail and this is a way to negotiate and get people to the table. the point at which that doesn't happen, of course. the things you didn't plan on ultimately happen. where do you think this goes? >> i agree with you there. already we've seen where the leverage he's had with the -- giving them the exemptions temporarily. we've been able to renegotiate some trade deals with korea, which that was a bad trade partner. now they locked in and worked out some details. my gut feeling is just what you said. this should force people to look at levelling the playing field.
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that's all we've cried for for years and lobbied hard. we have old trade laws in this country, in the united states. we're asking to enforce the trade laws on the books. rewrite would be great. modernize them, great. just give us a level playing field we can compete against anybody. the cheaters that are the ones we're going after. >> neil: dan simmons, thanks for taking the time. >> thank you. >> neil: dan simmons. as i told you, if this was worrying folks, it had a funny way of showing it at the corner of wall and broad. more interesting, the backdrop of this that maybe we can deal with it because the economy is doing so well. 3.8% unemployment rate, you'd have to go back to 1969 to see when that level was last reached. we touched it in 2000. that was the same year that neil armstrong walked on the moon. that was then. it's something really big that defies every cynical thing that
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>> neil: this was a better than expected employment report. look at that 3.8% unemployment rate. it matched a low that we first achieved in 1969. that is when we walked on the moon. think of that and what we've achieved there and what this could portend. the fact that wages are moving up. not off the charts but certainly one for the history books. what does this mean? the backdrop being forgotten about the trade war when the underlying economy is as sound as it is and we get a north
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korean deal. you know the deal. we have leigh carter and dan is here, too. what did you think of the report and what it could be saying about this economy? >> could the report have been any better? when you talk about putting on that many new jobs in one month. new jobs coming on. unemployment going down. wages going up. what better news could we get? the market is certainly reacting to that. extremely positive. everything else being put aside. we're growing economically. we're on steroids rights now. >> neil: and you can say think is why we're not. not worried about a trade war because we're coming from a position of strength. the countries will ultimately do what they should do. what do you think? >> i agree. since january of last year, we had almost 800,000 goods producing jobs. i call them dirty fingernail jobs. the things that president trump
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promised. manufacturing is so remarkable right now. the fed talked about companies getting rid of drug testing, also hiring convicted felons. i think that's critical. there's millions of americans in this country because of those two things that thought they would never get a job, never. today's report, 76,000 blacks came into the job market last month. the number 1 all time low employment rate, this is remarkable stuff happening in this country. normally it would be celebrated more. it's something to watch. >> neil: reports like this could sort of feed on themselves just as a bad report can and people say hey, unemployment is down to 3.8%. maybe the water is fine. i should dive in and look in this job market. it creates sort of a good will effect. you buy that? >> it can. i think people will be excited on the number. it's a question of how much will it be celebrated and how much will people say it. there's so much talk about trade
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wars, so much uncertainty. everywhere you're looking, people are saying that things won't get done. prices will go higher. you hear the democrats right now talking about your can of beer over the summer will be higher. >> neil: nobody tops wilbur ross showing the increase in the -- the billionaire -- >> i know, a lot of touch there. the bottom line is this. the question is what are people going to be looking at and seeing. are they going to get estimates on lumber and see that prices are going up -- >> neil: it's not happening yet. the fear is it will and it will show up in inflation. they've been worried about it. hasn't panned out yet. >> it's not yet, neil. this is all part of the negotiating process. >> neil: is it really? you see a met to this? >> absolutely. >> neil: it's not impulse and -- >> just today, we see donald trump in the oval office with representatives from north korea. two weeks ago, everything was off. now we're back on.
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look, i look at it this way. it's almost like buying a car with donald trump. he's willing to walk away and have that salesman chase him out the door. he will keep walking. that's what it's about. he's not afraid to walk away. this is not a president that will blink when it comes to -- i don't want to use the term "trade wars." i call it trade negotiation. >> neil: so you don't think it's a big concern with countries threatening everything from motorcycling to blue jeans to rice, to cherries to -- on and on and on. all of this ancillary stuff that could go jacking up. >> neil, this is the time to do it. this is nothing new for donald trump. he has talked about the trade definite it is for years. now he's got this economy going so strong. now is the time through strength to call out everybody. if he's willing to put tariffs on canada, what are the chinese
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thinking about? >> the message is to china. >> they -- there's been like chinese steel, going through china into our country a couple years ago. there was a chinese firm that built up $2 billion of aluminum in mexico. the greater point here is that it's a negotiating thing. we want better nafta deals. it's antiquated. we need to fix it. >> neil: but you're a big free marketer. you said the tariffs will reveal what other countries do to us. so it's revealed a lot of them do rig things, china especially. is this the way to go about it? >> i think so. the thing that bothers me the most, people act like if we don't use our economic muscle -- we're the biggest economy in the world. we're not set to be that ten years from now. we don't flex it right now and draw a line in the sand, i think we are going to be in a worse position and we'll look back on it and regret it. i don't think it's going to happen. president trump is doing
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unorthodox things. he has people shaken up. >> if it works, he's going to be a genius. if it doesn't, we'll have a hard time in the mid-terms. their pocketbook -- >> all the things i just talked about, all of those states that he flipped from obama, that's where those jobs are being created. look at the unemployment numbers. i don't think someone was living in a statement with 2.5 unemployment is going to vote for president trump. >> what about the farmers -- >> he already said -- the bottom line, the people that he promised the most too are the ones cheering this on. >> neil: that was your point. >> absolutely. he's doing what he said he would do. it's good stuff. >> the independents are nervous right now. that's what the republicans need coming into mid terms. very nervous. >> neil: thanks very much. what if i told you the mueller investigation cost $17 million? well, it has. my issue with that is, that is a lot of money that has to be justified, right? the more money you're spending,
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investigation is costing us. anything can happen. the tab on other investigations has gone substantially higher. this isn't over. let's get the read on this from lisa, an attorney. i'm going to pause this, not so much the debate over why it cost so much. i'm not here to debate that. but i will say this. it almost compels those behind the investigation to come up with something to justify that. >> it certainly does. they are expending a lot of time and money and any prosecutor will try to make their case. the higher expenditures, the more pressure produce. the cost itself doesn't surprise me. $17 million. i mean, i think we can talk about a couple years back, we had ken starr. the investigation with bill and hillary over the questionable real estate dealings with whitewater, six years, $17 million. >> neil: started in real estate
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and ended up taking to linda tripp and monica lewinsky and a blue dress. >> and we're seeing this here. a lot of different -- >> neil: veering off course. you have to justified -- spending a lot of money but look what we encovered. i'm hearing people going to the president and his family or his friends or colleagues or lawyers, business dealings going back years. we got to get something in the end. >> they do, right? they want to validate that they didn't take the public money and throw it out there in a witch hunt, so to speak. that's the word of the day, word of trump. they will get something, right? they are getting something for the investigation. >> neil: and you have a good read of this. >> i think they have not proven obstruction charges against trump. i think they have widened the net, so to speak in order to validate some expenditure of this kind of money.
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i don't think it's over. i think it will continue. i think we're seeing that they are actually targeting a lot of different elements now to validate the cost. >> neil: you don't think the president -- >> no. >> neil: so would it be -- when starr, when he was here last week, he said that he could understand the president being reluctant to speak to mueller's office. arrangements could be made. would it be wise for the president to speak? in the end, didn't do him a lot of good. >> the more that is uncovered, the more likely that it's probable that he could. i don't really think that he could speak. he could speak with mueller in a conversation. >> neil: you think he would be subpoenaed to speak? the threat was good enough nor ken starr. >> we go back and forth over subpoenas. he could be subpoenaed and try
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to squash this subpoena. who would hold the president in contempt? it's procedural discussion. the bottom line is, if he was subpoenaed, he would appeal to the u.s. supreme court. it would take a significant amount of time, probably months to even get a resolution of that. we are talking about the president and why, why would the president relinquish his constitutional power and his authority to control the people that are subpoenaing him? we have a lot of procedural back and forth. very expensive investigation and we don't have any results right now. the one thing that i think people are overlooking and now we have mccabe and the i.g. investigation. yet two years, $17 million and how much are we spending on the obama administration's collusion with law enforcement and intelligence apparatus to quash
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the hillary investigation. always something. >> neil: yeah. i just know lawyers are expensive. you're not cheap. we're told the president has read the letter. he's read the letter from kim jong-un. he's not saying what was in that letter. but he finally after everyone left the white house had a chance to open it up and gave it a quick glance. we don't know what is in it. we don't know if he will share it. we know the talks are still on. so something in the letter didn't dissuade him to agreeing what he agreed to with leader number 2. here going to talk june 12 in singapore. more after this. hear that sizzl. red lobster's lobster & shrimp summerfest is back! get all the lobster and shrimp you crave, together in so many new ways. there's new cedar plank seafood bake. tender maine lobster and shrimp, cedar roasted to perfection. or new caribbean lobster and shrimp. sweet pineapple salsa on grilled rock lobster, paired with jumbo coconut shrimp. and wait. there's lobster & shrimp overboard!
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>> neil: send me a letter, north korea. i was thinking that during the commercial break, what could i do to make this palpable for everyone here. the president has read the letter from kim jong-un that was passed by the north korean delegation in the oval office
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today. fox news' rich edson here following thinks cross currents. what are you hearing, rich? >> good afternoon. a white house official confirmed the president read the letter. for the content, it's uncertain. the meeting, the president confirmed that it will take place june 12 in singapore. one thing the letter did also do is provide access to the white house for a north korean team that will bring back to north korea, pyongyang with them, a photo opportunity with the president of the united states. a very valuable asset for the kim regime domestically. for the state department and what is going on here, officials have always been targeting june 12. as late as yesterday, the secretary of state really couldn't say whether the summit was going to happen before the meeting at the white house today. there are american and north korean teams negotiating in singapore for the logistics of this summit. also in the dmz to lay the
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foundation of a potential agreement between the u.s. and north korea for north korea to surrender their nuclear program. the state department has spent much of the trump administration applying maximum pressure against north korea. the president said he's not going to apply additional sanctions. first he's going to see how the summit works out. >> the director did not ask, but i said i'm not going to put them on as much time as the takes break down. we have significant sanctions. but we have hundreds that are ready to go. i said -- why would i do that when we're talking so nicely? >> the u.s. is still applying previously implemented sanctions against north korea. it's just holding off on implementing new ones. there's a sense of optimism among the president and the secretary of state heading into this. the secretary state said it's a difficult road ahead. that north korea will have to take a leap of faith to be
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successful here and change their attitudes and policies that they have implemented for many decades. back to you. >> neil: thanks, rich, at the state department. we'd be remiss if we didn't mention roseanne. her show, it's deader than dead, right? not going anywhere just like her career. what if i told you they're working on resurrecting it and just might have a chance? i don't know what they would call it then. maybe not "roseanne" but it has our generation hexed. more after this. how do you win at business? stay at laquinta. where we're changing with contemporary make-overs. then, use the ultimate power handshake, the upper hander with a double palm grab. who has the upper hand now? start winning today.
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roseanne barr. she cancelled a podcast appearance. there's talks try to see her career comes back. even if that looks dicey to you, her show is not. efforts to resurrect it. it's been guaranteed another season. there's old writers and people behind that that could go on and do the show without her. couldn't be called roseanne. i have no idea. i know these people do. cabot phillips. we have christine here and my audio wing man and tech giant, dionne and cat. what do you think? >> i don't think it's doable with roseanne. roseanne will have opportunities in the future, i'd say. people have a short memory. so many celebrities doing stupid things. americans forget who they're supposed to be outraged at. there's a big market for her down the road. weather the storm. whether it's good for anybody to bring her back or not -- >> neil: i think your show has
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better odds. >> it's inexcusable what he said. mel gibson has made a comeback. >> neil: he's done well. >> and nominated for best director. everybody forgets. even megan foxx called one of her directors hitler. she was taken off of the transformers movie and brought back on for teenage mutant ninja turtles. >> but this was already roseanne's million's chance. >> that's the problem. >> she said 9,000 crazy things in the past. maybe 9,004. she said the boston marathon bombing was an example -- >> neil: it's been a uphill batter for her but not as much as her show. >> yeah. absolutely. >> i'm surprised they acted so quickly in cancelling the show
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instead of like "house of cards." >> yeah. they cancelled kevin spacey. >> it's hard because it's called "roseanne." >> but they cancel it. there's no negativity. maybe roseanne ran off -- >> in 1989, she went out and did that stuff on the drunk -- doing the national anthem and all that. she wasn't cancelled them. >> she's had nine lives already and then some. >> neil: i want to switch to a subject that people can relate to. this is a doctor suing a patient for a million bucks because she gave a bad review on yelp. so i get you have to be careful what you write. what do you think? >> who reads reviews on yelp any ways? you do? i never do. i feel like people that leave reviews on yelp are picky. the atmosphere was great. the food was great but the free
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bread was stale. >> this is a doctor though. doesn't like the way he was characterized. >> you're complaining about the people writing it. i read it, too. i'm too lazy to write -- >> yeah. >> study came out. 49 people said they won't go to a business if they people if it's below four stars. so this doctor has a right to maintain what is being said. >> neil: how to answer it -- >> if it's not factual. >> to me, it kills this industry of yelp and trip adviser and the other health grades. it's one thing, yes, if people leave negative completely egregious things. if someone leaves something that is truthful. i didn't have a good time. i went to see you and then your recourse is just sue me. what is this? like a million dollars? >> yeah. a million bucks seems like quite a bit. >> it's pr. >> we're talking about them right now. this doctor. his face is in all of these
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advertisements. he's getting free air time. >> but people don't want to go to him. >> neil: people are thinking, i have to be critical. i could be sued. >> she's not the first person to sue somebody with a negative review. >> really? >> yeah. there was a chimney company -- it's an example. it's worth a million dollars. >> i don't know how many you trust going back to this guy. he's an ob-gyn. you go back and like -- >> neil: we're not going there. president trump has been making controversial pardons. blagojevich, martha stewart and on and on. what do you make of it? take note? >> i don't have a problem with these pardons. if he's going to be pardoning people, he needs to pardon matthew charles. he was out for two years. he had a steady job, steady girlfriend. volunteers every saturday. turns out he was released in error so they're sending him
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back for another decade. they sent him back -- >> neil: and they have petitioned him to do that. it's awful. if he's pardoning -- >> neil: and blagojevich, march a commute -- >> right now it looks like trump is pardoning people on "the apprentice" or people supporting him or -- it's always a good thing if justice is being served and the president is using their power in a good way. >> 2016, 17, before obama left, he pardoned the falm terrorist. >> neil: do we know if this president has had more -- >> no, at this stage. >> feels like it. everybody is talking about it. could be two things. one thing that he shows he has the ability to be above the law. if it's were martha stewart, i'm getting a comeback, doing things
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with snoop dog. i don't want to remind everybody that i lied on an insider trading case. >> what's the point? >> neil: is that expunged from her record? >> the poncho she wore sold well. it was a knitted poncho. >> you have details. >> it seemed hypocritical that people are calling him out but the fln with obama -- >> neil: presidents can do it. it's a wild power. thanks very much. we're going to go to more detail on how the president came from walking away from talks to now getting them back on. some call that stubborn. others are saying it just could be genius. after this. spell-bindingly goo? it's a bold blend of coffee with rich flavors of uganda, sumatra, colombia and other parts of south america. like these mountains, each amazing on their own. but together? magical. all, for a smoother tasting cup of coffee. green mountain coffee roasters. one second.
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office, the letter, the president has read the north korean's leader's letter, fallout from investors tomorrow,
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what was in the letter, what was guaranteed, what wasn't, what drama unfolded. all of that as we continue our special saturday show 7:00a.m. eastern time right through none, you won't believe the drama we uncovered. "the five" now. ♪ >> hello, dana perino along with kimberly ghoul foye, jesse watters, this is "the five." a major breakthrough with north korea after historic meeting inside the oval office. president trump is saying he'll sit down with kim jong-un in singapore. >> president trump: we'll be meeting on june 12, in singapore. i think it'll be a process. i never said it goes in one meeting. i think it will be a process. but the relationships are building and that's positive. we talked about ending the war.

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