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but you always have to have kind of a fire going at the campfire. ed: is there always like a steak house close by? pete: in ed's world yes. abby: we'll see you tomorrow. my dad is joining us you don't want to miss it. neil: all right, let's do this. fox on top of the scramble to nail that north korean summit down, amid talk another one with this guy is just being teed up. who says saturdays for your resting folks? we are just starting. welcome, everybody glad to have you i'm neil cavuto and no rest for the weary this busy saturday morning including one president whose at camp david we're told making calls studying up with north korea's kim jong-un now only 10 days away this is what all goes down of course in singapore where the frantic prep work is back on, which explains the busy comings and goings that
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we've noticed at the state department and the white house this hour, where they're still trying to iron out the wrinkles including, brace yourself, who picks up the tab for kim jong-un 's hotel. i kid you not, we'll explain, you decide, and they're already calling it the letter that changed everything from the leader of north korea to the leader of the united states, it wasn't a text, not a tweet, not an e-mail, a letter. kids listen up and take note. we're going to teach you something about the value of the written word, so put that gadget down and take note of the timing of all of this. the highest ranking north korean to meet a u.s. president since 2000 also the year of the uss coal attack remember that one well it's commander sure does, a threat from foreign entities who said they did not but apparently did. the commander's message, of course, talk and trust but keep talking and verify. and keep reading you've got that a new york times headline right,
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the jobs report that is too good for words but apparently too much for nancy pelosi to handle. oh, yeah, about that blue wave let's just say this saturday morning more like shifting sands and why some on the left are fearing it has just hit the fan i got that out just the way i wanted to meanwhile we hit the ground running beginning with the latest on the north korea trade talks with rich edson at the state department. hey, rich. >> good morning, neil. state department officials have always been targeting a june 12 summit in singapore between president trump and kim jong-un now they can conduct their planning with a little bit more confidence. isn't of state mike pompeo says it's up to his team to bridge the divides between the two sides and put much of that on north korea. the secretary says north korea must make a strategic shift away from a path that it has followed for decades. officials say north korea believes its nuclear program provides its security and it's up to the united states to convince kim jong-un that his nuclear weapons are actually a threat to his regime. traveling singapore secretary of
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defense james mattis says the u.s. military presence in korea is "not on the table in singapore on the 12th nor should it be." he says that's a matter between the united states and south korea. and as these discussions are ongoing between the united states and north korea, there are also talks between the united states and the russian government about a potential summit between president trump and russian president vladimir putin. a u.s. official confirms that and says they are in the very early stages of that planning. neil? neil: all right, rich thank you very very much in the meanwhile reports that the u.s. is seeking for a discrete way to pick-up the tab for kim jong-un's hotel in singapore. i kid you not there are reasons for this garrett ten it with some of those reasons and the latest. garrett? >> well neil the u.s. has a delegation in singapore trying to work out a lot of the details for this summit and they explained even the smallest of details everything from the location to the seating to the colors of the table cloth but the washington post reports that one very sensitive issue they're trying to work out now is who is
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going to pay for kim jong-un's hotel stay. a presidential suite at the resort of choice for the leader costs more than 6,000 dollars a night, according to the paper, and while the north can afford to build intercontinental ballistic missiles it claims it's too poor to pay for foreign travel. the u.s. is reportedly willing to pay for the hotel two sources familiar with the talks told the paper though that would require a temporary lifting of sanctions against the north however, the u.s. team is also aware the north may view the u.s. paying for the lodging as an insult, so the delegation is reportedly considering asking the host country of singapore to foot the bill, and we saw this issue came up during the 2018 winter olympics in south korea when south korea reportedly paid $2.6 million for the north to send a cheering squad to the games, and the international olympic committee paid for 22 of north korea's athletes to travel to the event as well. neil? neil: all right thank you, my friend that's an interesting one to swallow if we have to do that but it is what it is.
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now how do we avoid regardless of who picks up the tab at hotels from being hoodwinked by the north koreans i asked that at the last go around. >> we've been disappointed, some would say by the north koreans in the past, if you had to give advice right now what would it be? >> well it would be if you have an agreement with the north koreans, do enormously a lot of inspections, international inspectors, american inspectors. make sure that their timelines that the north koreans give their inventory of all their missile and nuclear sites many are underground, they're hidden that there'd be very unfettered access to those inspections. neil: all right, bill richard richardson was of course bill clint of's trade rep on negotiating with the first go around the north koreans did everything right in the beginning and they stopped doing it right and they started lying and they started kicking away inspectors and of course the rest is history.
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former uss coal commander, welcome to both of you. you know, commander the timing of our visit is unique in that it was in 2000 that we last had a high ranking north korean delegation visiting the white house, that was also the year the summer that year that the us s coal was hit a preview of tragic coming attractions. what advice do you have for the principles when they sit down? >> the first thing they need to do, neil is sit down and make sure that they understand from a technical perspective how we're going to have an iron clad verifiable process to ensure that we know how many nuke do they have, how many ballistic missiles do they have, where are all of the facilities from the technical research and development, all the way through the manufacturing of the war heads themselves, then we need to make sure that we can inspect each of those to whatever degree is necessary to ensure that we have a process by
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which they can denuclearize and we will have control of that process with international inspectors only assisting. the u.s. has to maintain control of this, because clearly the iae a has proven unable and unwilling to do it. neil: you know in the past, where it even went later on president bush was trying to deal with the same government and the idea was we want to get inspectors in there to verify this and in the beginning much like the clinton years the north koreans were all yes yes yes and then they started refusing and then started delaying and lying and cheating and of course well you know the rest of the story. how do we avoid that? >> well i think the difference between those times and where we are now is that during that time , i think most of the world thought the bush administration was for obvious reasons distracted in the middle east and what we're seeing of course now is that president trump has the credible threat of force, i think everyone thinks he is serious that his defense secretary is quite serious, and that i think is the major difference. as we were involved in two other wars which we're still in iraq
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and afghanistan but i think president trump's threat of force is more credible this time neil: you know, commander we're also learning of the white house is working on another level reaching out to the russians about arranging another summit with vladimir putin on this one to presumably address syria, maybe take a look at the ukraine but i wouldn't doubt address south korea. what do you think? >> i think you're absolutely right. i mean leveraging off what morgan just said. when you look at it, the united states now has a president who is willing to exercise with capability and credibility the fact that we will back up all the other national instruments of power to ensure that we get what we need. we're seeing it in north korea and i think if we sit down with the russians and begin to look at hey, here is where you're involved in the world, here is where it is interfering with our national security interests, what are yours, what are ours and where we can we come to a negotiated agreement on where can we each do this without endangering the risk of having it getting into a larger
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conflict so so i think this president with capability and credibility through secretary mattis and the department of defense truly can have meaningful and fruitful negotiations, both with north korea and russia. neil: you know, morgan in hearing this story of course we've not been able to verify but others are quoting it where the north koreans are looking for some help in picking up their hotel tab when they're in singapore and i'm thinking to myself china is a ben benefactor , can't china do that why are we getting bogged down in something like that already? >> yeah, it's kind of a crazy story. i mean, the amount of money that they're spending on these nuclear weapons, ballistic weapons, chemical weapons, biological weapons perhaps one less of those an be able to afford your hotel bill, so it's a little bit ridiculous. neil: can't they seek out a cheaper hotel the one they're looking at is 6,000 dollars a night. i know there's a best western just around the block. >> there's got to be. i stayed in singapore and it's nice. it wasn't 6,000 dollars a night.
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neil: so i don't know but these are the things that you find out behind the scenes are going on and the little pet peeves so i don't want to take them out of context but what are your hopes for these talks what will ultimately come of them? >> i think what we're going to see out of these talks, neil is the framework established for a path to denuclearization that will occur very very quickly, hopefully. we want to make sure that it comes at a point where we learn as much as possible during these or at least establish the framework for it, so that we know what they have, how we're going to get there and by the same token the north koreans know here are the benefits that can be accrued. here is what you'll receive economically. here is what you'll receive diplomatically for recognition in the world. this is a whole new world we're going to open up for them. they need to understand that, but they also need to understand that there are constraints and requirements that go with it by the same token the chinese are going to have a say in this but they're not going to be a player at the table.
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neil: morgan you've worked for the bush administration you know a thing or two about diplomacy and how it works this is up ending all the rules diplomacy 101, state department 101 whatever you want to call it and here we are, with a president whose done everything against the book and now, is on the verge of making history and i'm wondering how that is going to redefine negotiations of future presidents going forward. >> well, he has so many balls to juggle in asia. when you look at even our allies are not really on the same page. when you look at the japanese, for example, he wants the president to take an incredibly tough line to insist on complete and verifiable and irreversible denuclearization. when you look at the south koreans they've taken a much softer stance, i should say, than the japanese because clearly they're the ones that would be most affected by any conflict in terms of loss of life and then of course you have the chinese who really have no interest in helping us at all with the north korean situation. they have to be pushed there. we saw secretary mattis in
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singapore yesterday at the dialogues there who he was talking about the nefarious activities that you see china do in the south china sea and how they are intimidating and there's coercion taking place there so i think when you look at the asian theatre as a whole the president has a lot on his plate, not just on north korea, our allies are not necessarily on the same page, so he has an incredibly difficult balancing act but again i think the difference here as you said is he's upending 30 years of the way that we have gauged with these allies, i think in a good way that will lead to results. neil: fingers crossed as i say guys thank you both very very much for coming in on a saturday much appreciated by the way just as they were talking i've dug up at least 13 hotels in the singapore area where room rates average anywhere from 300 to $600 a night, not a one is $ 6,000 a night. some are pedigree names but the fact of the matter there are choices here so if we are going to pick-up the tab we do have well there's a howard johnson
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certainly lisa has told me that it's not an unusually high tab. in fact this is a fraction of what the ken starr investigation was costing but your argument, is that let's not focus on that. my argument is i'm focusing on it to the degree that it almost compels those doing the investigating to come up with something. >> well certainly a higher price tag, right? it leads to more accountability and prosecutors, look, they're driven to find a result so there's an investigation, they want to have an answer. nobody wants to set out on an endeavor and come up with nothing and this investigation, they did uncover certain things, right, 19 people were charged, there were three plea deals but when is enough enough. neil: but would that be enough, lisa to say all right we've justified our expense and uncovered the stuff in areas that we didn't originally pursue that we came up with pursue the ken starr investigation with bill clinton started on real estate transaction and veered into a relationship with an intern and that only came up through discussions with linda
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trip when she volunteered it, so what do you thinks going on here >> well i think they've widened the net. i think they are trying to validate the expenditures certainly they're trying to engage this investigation into a very larger stratosphere and it does seem to obviously be poly motivated which i think every american can say we don't really want our legislative process controlling our politics, but that's what's happening. i do think that this investigation thus far could be validated and it should come to a conclusion. i don't think obstruction of justice has been proven against the president. i don't think that they have an underlying offense and that's why they keep fishing. you cast the line, you want to hook a fish. they were somewhat successful in the russia probe, but i think that they're going beyond the scope at this point. we haven't heard a lot from mueller in the past two months. we haven't heard any new indictments and so you're kind of wondering what is his next comment, what is the next step.
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neil: i'm wondering too, about the cost and the need to ran sack offices like the president 's lawyers, former campaign manager paul manafort, his home earlier in the morning. those are unusual measures to take and they have to be justified and someone approves them and says there's reason to do that, i'm not here to debate that but that begs the question, all right you're searching for something to again i'm getting back to this price tab. >> well you're validating the cost of an investigation. you're trying to come up with something. of course -- neil: would it be a disappointment if say politicize s to the left and that's all you came up with? >> i think it would be deemed a disappointment for people on the left. i think it would be a win for people on the right. neil: is that what will come down to? >> i think it will come down to that. i think it will be extended beyond because we are coming into mid-term elections and this is proving to weigh on those elections. i think -- neil: you say extended beyond so we won't have an answer an
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investigation wrapped up before the mid-terms? >> i doubt it. very doubtful. neil: rudy giuliani and others hinted at that. >> well i think that's what they would want to see and what we should see. neil: what about the president talking to mueller? you and i were chatting a little bit about this how likely is that? >> it's probably not likely at this point again there's no underlying offense. i think that it's pretty clear that they don't have enough on the president so look, he could speak to them in private but any lawyer would tell him why because it's a phishing expedition and they're looking for something if they don't have it they should conclude the investigation and it should be over. neil: ken starr was here last week and that's essentially what he said. might not be worth it. lisa always good seeing you boy she's a great lawyer that justifies the god awful high legal fees involved here because lawyers all rally around it. and forget about this blue wave in november, i think there's something that could disrupt it. a jobs wave, right now, after
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neil: all right, as if i don't have enough to do, giving you the latest news on a saturday morning but i am trying to help out american taxpayers right now and indications reported in the washington post that we're looking to sway some of the north koreans concerns about very expensive hotel costs when they gather in singapore just 10 days from now. one of the quoted figures was for $6,000 a night to house kim jong-un and we immediately said we can do better than that and surely, the staff sometimes i wonder if they're not on crack, they unearthed some real good hotel deals in the singapore area including red door's plus, average room rate is $76 versus $6,000 and now if you want to go up a tad, i think you could look
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at the grand mccur, the singapore oxy where it's $116 although they do, when i get into this, they do have a presidential suite, which would only be fitting for the leader of north korea, and that might go a little higher but i very much doubt $6,000 so again we're keeping tab of that and a lot of hotels in the area and not a one at this early stage as we found approaching anything close to $ 6,000 a night but i'm looking out for you america. you're welcome. all right in the meantime, you remember this? >> it's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind. neil: here is how much of a nerd i am. when people ask me about neil what do you remember at the year 196 i know that's the obvious example that comes to mind but what i remember about it being a numbers nerd at fox is we had a 3.8% unemployment rate. we just matched it in the latest
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month first time in half a century did this briefly in 200. we are now back to employment levels we were looking at in the 1960s, 1969 that is remarkable. so what does it mean? and given all this attention we have on a suddenly strong jobs report a momentum that seems to be picking up not slowing down, what could that mean to the political landscape as well. let's get the read from all of this with the republican beautiful state of virginia, congressman, you know, that is in and of itself startling and you've seen it certainly in your neck of the woods, but this was supposed to be the year that the slowdown would begin yet for the first five months of this year the job gains have picked up dramatically. what's going on? >> yeah, well it's impressive. i know you weren't born yet in 69. neil: if that were true, if that were true -- all right go ahead. >> no you're so young so it's good but it's huge if you recall the democrats talking points on
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tax cuts nothing that happens will hurt people in fact it's the exact opposite kennedy knew all of this right? kennedy said the best way to get the economy roaring is to lower tax rates, revenues are overflow ing unemployment rates are at their historic lows, overall african american unemployment rates all-time historic lows people are coming back in the workforce. the capital accumulation statistics are coming out that is the driver of economic growth so capital is up, manufacturing, optimism is up, consumer sentiment is up those are all indexes, university of michigan has those so people can look them up, those aren't just on a whim, they're carefully tracked by economists over time so it's great news across-the-board. i think i just heard the atlanta fed has economic growth in the next quarter over four again, i'll verify that. neil: indeed they talked about 4.5% and the minimum maybe 4.8%
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now they've been wrong, but you're almost certain to be right that it's going to be stronger than researcher in quarters we've seen and i'm wondering how republicans handle that, already nancy pelosi is kind of poo pooed this latest number, the new york times in a headline couldn't find words enough to praise it but it's doing too little with the families hit with soaring new costs under the republicans new watch. what do you think of that? >> i think it's absurd the democrats, nancy is reaching there. i just had an event on family breakdown opioids, human traffic king et cetera. all of that is linked to the lack of success and lack of jobs , right? so if we put people back into the labor force, the democrats ruin the economy back in the housing crisis right? fannie and freddie is responsible for the collapse back in 07. we're finally coming out of that and now you've got a tax cut and real dramatic growth is coming up. everybody knows what's going on. i fully anticipate african
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american hispanic, everyone in the country comes to the republican side of the table coming up. there's just tremendous good news. everybody knows it, it's just obvious, so the democrats will have their talking points, they don't have an alternative so usually they pivot off to identity politics or some negative stuff because they don't have an economic plan, they never have. they can't tell you what causes economic growth. we just totally incentivize depreciation for capital assets and now you see capital accumulation which causes economic growth which causes jobs which causes hiring which causes wages to go up wages are going up for the first time wages have been flat for 30 years, bernie and trump both ran on wages, and until hillary rigged a thing against bernie, and then the establishment kind of took over. neil: but your other wage thing is real running at a 2.7% clip it could still go higher you almost sound like an economics professor oh, wait you were one. congressman thank you very very
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much good seeing you again. >> yeah, always great to be on neil thank you. neil: in the meantime here, what could disrupt this? what could be the half empty glass we're missing? well tariffs are one. big surcharges on things you buy every day is another. that could be happening, but maybe not. we're on it, after this. ooh-wee, grab an umbrella kids 'cause dad's gonna make it rain "tre tres". he's saying he's gonna score a bunch of three-pointers on you. yeah, we ball til we fall. there are multiples on the table: one is cash, three are fha, one is va. so what can you do? she's saying a whole lotta people want to buy this house. but you got this! rocket mortgage by quicken loans makes the complex simple. understand the details and get approved in as few as eight minutes. by america's largest mortgage lender.
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neil: all right, this hotel in singapore, a little pricey than the ones we mentioned is $470 a night, it is considered one of the more elite hotels in singapore, and we've been trying to do this and fetch prices here , on word from the washington post that we might have to pick-up the tab for the north korean delegation or more to the point the north korean leader not only do we have a problem with that if it gets people at a table we'll pay for the table but my point is i think there are better deals to be had than $6,000 a night. that is like david asman kind of money and i think we can do better my friends and at $470 a
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night offers that i don't know if that's a standard room rate perhaps if it's a large delegation we did get still better deals but we'd come up with anything from as low as $75 a night to right now tops at 470 , you know i don't have time to do all of this for you but you're welcome, america. >> [laughter] neil: i'll keep you on top of that. all right in the meantime, we have a great economy, but we also have a potential trade war coming and some republicans are getting nervous take a look. >> these tariffs, i believe, hit the wrong target. europe, canada, mexico, are not the problem. china and its ship ams and unfair practices are. neil: that was house ways and means committee kevin brady and what he's bemoaning is the fact that the president is quite serious about slapping tariffs on steel and aluminum products that largely skew the chinese for now but are considered to be an opening via our friends, of course the germans are upset
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about this, the canadians and mexicans virtually the entire european union so they're all making it clear that they don't like this . this as the commerce secretary wilbur ross is dining in beijing tonight with the vice premier talking about these and other issues, and we're told as well that the chinese are not just going to roll over and play dead on this. let's get the read on how significant this could be if this does turn into a trade war, dagen mcdowell is here, david asman, among with market watcher , all right dagen how big a deal is this potentially going to be? dagen: it's already a big deal you've seen steel prices shoot up about 50% in the last year. this introduces the uncertainty we would be sitting here if it was president barack obama we'd be pulling our hair out. it introduces uncertainty into the business community when we finally got good news on tax cuts, regulatory reform the job market as you've been pointing out is actually picking up steel despite being more than nine
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years into an expansion, but again, for american businesses that use steel and aluminum and anybody who exports to canada or mexico into europe, those businesses are sitting back going what's going to happen to my sales? what's going to happen to how i source my material? am i going to have to cut wages and slow my hiring and these are questions that are not being answered and this administration won't be able to answer them for months if not years to come. neil: what do you think david? david: i think what dagen is saying is absolutely true. everything is true; however as much as i hate tariffs and the europeans hate tariffs they hate tariffs if we put them on but they have a lot of tariffs of their own. we put together a list of the tariffs that they have just on steel, iron and aluminum for most favored nations they have 1,200 tariffs on most favored nation countries those are their friends, total eu tariffs are about 20,000 for most favored nations, so while they hate tariffs, when we apply them they have no trouble applying them
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themselves. neil: they're i guess the idea that if it'll never have to be used, the deal will be had beforehand. >> well it's all part of the negotiations but here is what i see, neil. if we don't do something now, when are we ever going to do anything? we're just going to accept trade deficits, that's how it is? we have to have the lowest tariffs compared to all of our trade partners? no. i don't know if it's by accident or if trump is a genius but the timing is perfect. we have a strong economy, now is the time to straighten this issue out. if we don't do it now, we will be in a weakened position perhaps somewhere down the line. it's the right time to do it. nobody likes tariffs, but we have to address the issue. neil: kennedy i know you're in the trump is a genius category. >> [laughter] >> oh, boy, so i don't know if he's a genius but he is riding the momentum right now of unemployment at an all-time low so the momentum is wonderful and now is the time to pull what an
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economist is saying a psychotic trade war now is the time to do do it, break trust relationships that have taken centuries to build. neil: i saw democrats love shielding industries. >> well we don't like hurting our relationships with canada and mexico our biggest trade partners. neil: you don't mind propping up solar or tax to favor treatments to things that you like right? >> [laughter] i was discussing trump being a genius and the timing being wrong. neil: okay well you raise a good point but is the larger issue here that be careful what you wish for mr. president because you just could get it and then of course it's a war? dagen: it's heading in that direction certainly going after canada and mexico and europe allies. this is not just a financial and economic issue. it's a political one, come the mid-terms and it's also a national security issue. when you talk about we get a lot of our steel from canada, that actually hurts our national security rather than helping it,
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as you would, as the commerce department and these trade reps would argue. i want the president and his representatives. i want peter navarro and wilbur ross to actually start calling this 6.5 million workers in this country who work for steel consuming industries, call the people who make motor boats who are apple farmers in this country who are going to be hurt by the retaliatory tariffs. if you go through the list of industries that are being hit in retaliation by europe, canada and mexico, these are american, it's small business owners and farmers far and wide and they deserve an explanation. i want some intellectual honesty tell the american people we're raising your prices, we might cost your job, we're doing this because we need to reduce trade deficits. >> as dagen was saying in the beginning particularly on the heels of such a magnificent success, you think of the way this economy has turned. i want to be clear, i think this in terms of the economy and national security i think this is the best president we've had
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since reagan; however and this gets to your point on trade deficits. i think his insistence that the key to a good economy is getting a trade balance is wrong, forgive me mr. president you're right on so many other things but on this you're dead wrong. one of the historically biggest trade deficits we've ever had up until that point was 1984. you know how much the economy grew in 1984? 7.3%. neil: we had seen the wrong one? david: trade just his insistence that trade deficits by themselves are the key to a healthy economy is wrong. >> there's going to be little gain. all this talk, it's unpredictable and at the end of the day, it's going to be little gain. this is for nothing. neil: but no one is paying the 25% yet, the 10% yet. >> if he gets it way it'll happen. neil: we'll see. if it doesn't it worked right? >> [laughter] >> well wall street doesn't agree, as we see on the stock market, none of this --
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neil: of course wall street isn't a genius but for now they seem to be whistling. david: and wall street i think is getting accustomed to a president who talks big before trade. i think it's no coincidence by the way, john uber our great producer pointed this out. neil: i wouldn't call him great. david: well he's okay. but he made a great point which is that will burr ross is in china. he's not in europe but china. maybe all of this stuff with europe and canada and mexico is a warning to china. that's the way this president works. neil: there's a method to this. all right david: the method is half baked because if you wanted to take on china -- neil: didn't you see the wilbur ross thing with the can of soup? dagen: and the beer? stop telling the american people this isn't going to have any impact on the economy and their jobs and lives and by the way if you really want to take on china and pushback on them stealing american technology, demanding us to hand over our technological prowess, then you lock arms with europe and canada
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and mexico. neil: but a lot are just little phonies too, right? no? dagen: well they're not little. david: they they're big phonies neil: kathy you're optimistic as wilbur. >> i'm thinking what are you going to do to these relationships that took centuries to build them and now you're tearing them apart. neil: i am, really? so just relax, all right, when, my producers are saying okay there goes that credibility. don't worry about it i blew that a long time ago. all right you hear this now they're trying to ressurect rosenstein son passes show, without rosenstein son. what would they call it? not roseanne? but by the way there's precedent for this they just might be able to make this work. i'll explain, after this. siness. but as it grew bigger and bigger, it took a whole lot more. that's why i switched to the spark cash card from capital one. with it, i earn unlimited 2% cash back on everything i buy. everything.
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neil: you won't believe the new hotel deals we found in singapore but i digress i want to get to the story of the moment and still this week it's a story on the week of course
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roseanne, she's out, her show was out but maybe shot was not out. they might try to revive it without her, of course you can't call it roseanne, like i said maybe not roseanne or everyone on the show except roseanne. >> [laughter] neil: my colleague and friend, michael, how doable is that? they're seriously kicking her out right? >> very doable the reports are there's a big meeting monday over at abc disney with the producers of roseanne to pitch how they can bring this show back. its been done before. neil: sure. >> everyone in this business is replaceable except for you, neil neil: right. and there's no spotlight without you. >> i am the spotlight, baby. one of the most recent examples is 1986 a show called valerie starring valerie harper, one year she got into a big salary dispute with nbc, they canned her and came back the next season as valerie's family and they brought in sidney duncan a year later and turned into the hogan family and ran for six seasons. neil: even house of cards on
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netflix, kevin spacey is out and they're doing one final season we're told without him, and it's already shot and done. so what do you think, it's usually difficult. >> i don't know why they had to get rid of the characters. someone can come into play that character. kevin spacey doesn't own that character. he was great in it but there's been several james bonds. [laughter] neil: yeah, that's true. >> why not several frank under woods. neil: i never thought of that, so could you do a roseanne look- alike or character like? >> probably not with her but they could bring it back as the conors. why not? and then you have john goodman, laurie metcalf, and really the focus i don't know if you watched this first season but really centered around sarah gilbert's character, so that's probably more of the direction. neil: and the whole conservative tone obviously had an appeal in the beginning but then the show veered away from politics fear ing that's how it got its signature attention but do you think it's an indictment on
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conservative deemed entertainment? i think it's even a stretch here >> i don't of agree everyone is saying noah b c was just looking for a reason to get rid of that show. that's absurd. that show was doing huge numbers they were banking on it in terms of ad sales in the upcoming season. they're not looking to get rid of those numbers and one of the untold stories of the success of the roseanne show is she sort of went against this grain of thinking in hollywood right now that only to get those kind of numbers you have to do live event programming sports or news i mean, 27 million people watch this. neil: incredible. >> it's like the 19806s all over in television. neil: these hollywood guys they're not red or blue as much as green. they like the money coming in right? so next year, at this time, you think there will be some roseanne-entity show on the air? >> if i had to put money on it i'd say yes because they have to pay them anyway so why not give it a shot. they have to pay them all i
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think $4.5 million with or without a season. neil: all right, michael always good seeing you my friend on a saturday no less. >> i aim in from the hamptons just for you. neil: i know you did. >> he called me up and said what are you doing and i said leave me alone. neil: he's the best. i've never seen him in a bad mood. all right, the lesson from obviously roseanne i should say and samantha bee, you ever notice the tone and language they're using? i'm talking to a congressman, a minister by trading a pastor who just says you know we've got to stop this. we just got to stop it, after this. it's easy to think that all money managers are pretty much the same. but while some push high commission investment products, fisher investments avoids them. some advisers have hidden and layered fees. fisher investments never does. and while some advisers are happy to earn commissions from you whether you do well or not, fisher investments fees are structured so we do better when you do better. maybe that's why most of our clients come from
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neil: all right, i really don't know care whether you're on the left or the right republican or democrat but the language and the nastiness that's being tweet ed back and forth whether
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it's roseanne and her comments or samantha bee and her comments , i'm leary over firing anybody over stuff like this it's a slippery slope but it's just the tone that bothers me and harkens back to a time when we didn't use language like that and we didn't go into something like that, so i know someone's going to come back and say you're making a political statement i'm really not which is why i brought missouri's democratic congressman and a pastor i might point out to just step back from all of this. you know, congressman, every time we chatted i mean you're very big on just saying to both sides, we've got to bring this down a notch or two, and then low and behold all these developments this week, what would you recommend? not so much talking to you as a congressman but as a man of faith. what would you do? >> well, the first thing we've got to do, i think, is make sure our country, the people in our country, recognize that we are
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tearing through this fabric that was so carefully woven together by our founders, and we're tear ing it, and roseanne barr said something dumb and idiotic and then samantha bee who you've never even heard of says something that's also filthy and shouldn't have said it, and so then the people with roseanne barr says she was fired she shouldn't have been fired the people with samantha bee says you know, what she said is not that awful and let's keep going, and it's building up and i am afraid, neil, and i'm very very serious, that if this continues, our grandchildren may not have the same kind of country that you and i and physicals of others watching were able to enjoy and so but its got to start i think with the elected officials. wouldn't it be fabulous if we
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had a remorseful president and a speaker of the house maybe the party or democrat in the white house and a republican speaker, and they open up a session of congress, a new congress by saying to the whole nation and to congress, look, name-calling is out. we're going to work together we don't have the same ideology we'll work together for the betterment of the country and i think that would be a major step in moving forward instead of hostility being just pushed out daily. all you have to do is turn on the television something new and nasty has come along. neil: you're right you think about it congressman nastiness works and campaign ads as well as ratings on broadcasts you can evolve into sort of crazy territory and put up some very very good numbers or you could step back and risk ratings that aren't so great to just have a discussion and try to move the ball forward that time but there used to be a time and i'm going
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back to ronald regan and tip o'neill two opposing parties but they didn't curse out each other they talked to each other and they didn't always agree in fact most times they didn't agree at all but they came to find some common ground and move forward. >> yes, i've had one of tip o'neill's grandchildren kaitlyn is a friend of mine and i love talking with her about her grand dad, and the weird but helpful relationship he had with president reagan and they were able to solve the issue of social security at least for a couple of decades, and i am absolutely convinced that we have people who can do it, but it's going to take courage. i mean, i get people angry with me all the time because i didn't vote, i maine mean i voted at the revolution of impeachment. neil: it's crazy and i wish we
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had more time but i don't have any more time congressman i don't know what's going on but seriously, i don't have any more time i don't know what's going on but i do want to have you back. you do provide a level of just camping everyone down which we'll continue in the next hour, after this. asked these couples: how much money do you think you'll need in retirement? then we found out how many years that money would last them. how long do you think we'll keep -- oooooohhh! you stopped! you're gonna leave me back here at year 9? how did this happen? it turned out, a lot of people fell short, of even the average length of retirement. ...
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>> i want to show you something, america, because i'm about to say to you, serious change, america. you see this? this is a fullerton hotel in singapore and this is where we believe the north korean delegation, more to the point, kim jong-un has plans to stay. the only problem is the room quote they passed along to us and they passed along to us because we might be picking up the tab on this, i don't have time to explain, america, i'm an anchor, but anyway goes something like this. we found rooms in that same hotel for what, pam, a few hundred bucks a night? 387, it's probably not the presidential suite. i'm telling you if we're going to pick up the tab, this is
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courtesy of "the washington post" story that says one of the impediments of arranging this, normally the north korean procedure in visiting foreign countries is that the host country picks up the tab. in this case singapore, which is sort of like acting like switzerland, the middle ground for both countries to use this as the place for the talks, they're not picking up the tab for this, so then it bounces back to donald trump's lap and we're told he didn't want that little detail to get in the way of what could be a historic summit for the world. so we're running ways by to pick up the tab, the $6,000 a night tab, maybe not, but the president is prudent when it comes to costs and fees and jacked up needlessly. that room would have to be like a country in its own night to be $6,000 a night, but we found one that could be a few hundred bucks even for the whole group. as i've been saying in the last
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hour or so, you're welcome, america. as if we don't have enough to do. right? okay. and my very good floor director is looking up on trip advisor or any of these sites to get better deals, but that's one of the nicest hotels there, singapore and we can get you a pretty nice room for a few hundred a night. let's not sign any deals just yet. all right, rich edson no stranger to pricery hotel and menus with tassels on them. he's at the state department for the plans for the big talks as they go forward ten days away. >> that's right, no presidential tabs. and mike pompeo says for this to be a success, north korea must change its strategic path, one it's been on for decades now. he says that north korea believes it has security and safety with its nuclear weapons program and it is up to him and the united states to convince north korea that that's not the
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case. they've been looking at logistics and the north and south zone, and the potential agreement to relief kim jong-un of his nuclear weapons. these diplomates are trying to bridge differences before president trump and kim jong-un meet june 12th in singapore. the president acknowledged a successful result may require multiple meetings with kim. and travelling, james mattis says the u.s. military presence in south korea is not on the table in singapore on the 12th, nor should it be. that's a matter between the united states and south korea. while the u.s. and north korea are in discussions, there may also be a summit moving forward between president trump and russian president vladimir putin. the u.s. official confirms to fox news that the u.s. is talking about a potential summit although those discussions are in the very early stages, neil. neil: thank you very much, my friend. do you know, you think about all
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of all of this came down. it was via private letter that kim jong-un sent to president trump. and that's his number two giving it personally to the president yesterday in the white house. it looked like a big letter to me, maybe it had a music cal card, i didn't read it, i don't know. i know the power of the written word and the power of letters period and in this day i like to remind my teenage sons, you're so into texts and tweets and e-mails, harken back to a time where the written world mattered. it still does. and the multiple best selling authors write plenty of notes himself and professor, good to have you. >> good morning, neil. neil: what do you think makes a letter so significant or moves leaders to do things they might not otherwise do? >>. >> even in the old days when we didn't have texting and e-mailing and the rest, a letter sent by the president or the head of another state really made a difference, it caught
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your attention, it was a permanent part of the record, very formal and i think a lot of time and thought went into each one of those letters. today it's so rare, as you mentioned, to get a formal letter with the other means of communications, i think it still catches your attention and in this particular case, obviously, this letter can have significant consequences. neil: yeah, we don't know what's in it to your point. we do know there's a great deal of history here and i was thinking back in the old discussions back and forth between khrunichev and a young john kennedy during the cuban missile crisis. letters played a big role, didn't it? >> yes, in that particular crisis it mattered a lot and ally khrunichev was acting through the state department and kennedy doing the same, but khrunichev sent contradictory letters, one of them was very harsh and a day apart, he sent another one that was very kind and generally approaching matters in a nonbellicose way.
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and kennedy did something very smart. he totally ignored the bellicose message, and decided to pay attention and respond to the pacific message and it worked. neil: and going a couple of decades later to ronald reagan and people didn't realize how fond he was of a simple note and he got simple notes and then some back from others including gorbachev. but that cemented it, didn't it? >> yes, reagan first reached out to gorbachev when he first took office via letter and reagan said at the time, not to gorbachev, but the rest of us, finally the soviet leaders stopped dying on me. he went through three in his first term and then he had gorbachev and he and margaret thatcher in great britain recognized they had somebody they could deal with. neil: much is said and written
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about abraham lincoln and his letter writing, which was almost, as far as chief executives on steroids and he wrote to quite a few people not just to those who were powerful, but to widows and soldiers who were brought up for charges. and his words were powerful. >> yes, he was actually poetic in prose writing. and they were, indeed powerful, and are much remembered. there was one case of lincoln writing to a widow in massachusetts who supposedly had had five sons killed for the union cause during the civil war, turns out that wasn't true. she had three sons that were killed, that's the sacrifice enough, but one was a deserter. nonetheless, it was a very powerful, very moving letter that pulled at the heart strings. what is really interesting about it, though it ended up, i think, moving hundreds of thousands of people, it didn't move the
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recipient. she was apparently anti-lincoln, and she, or someone else close to her, destroyed the letter. can you imagine what that would be worth today. neil: oh, man, that's like ripping up-- >> no music involved. they didn't have the musical notes then. neil: and i know it's a tradition in recently times for presidents to pass along a handwritten note to their successor. and this of could,is from barack obama to donald trump when he took over, i think they leave it in the desk there for their successor, whatever was said in that letter, i mean, obviously, things soured soon thereafter, but how significant is that, this sort of unique club in which they relate to one another? first via letter. >> well, it's a symbolic attempt by the old administration to reach out to the new. it's a symbol, a physical symbol that we can all see of continuity, which is critical in the presidency.
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we've had a continuous line of presidents since george washington. so, i think people look forward to finding out what's in that note. it's almost universally friendly, even if the participants are not, so, these things are important. symbols are important, norms are important. neil: you know, we don't know what was in that letter from the north korean leader. we do know that, obviously, whatever was written there isn't change the president's mind about having the talks on the 12th and so we're told-- and i don't know how the wall street journal got this, but no promises were made and no threats were made. maybe a kind of vanilla approach. it doesn't matter the approach, it's just that someone takes the time to write. >> again, it attracts attention and notice how it drew the cameras and also the photographers. it was a big letter, let's be honest, an unusual sized letter, the kind of thing i hope to get from you, neil. neil: don't count on it, not
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remotely. >> that's what i figured. but it was a significant photo-op and certainly go into the annals of history. neil: i'm waiting for a letter from you, you're a busy guy. >> i don't know your address. i don't know your address, neil. neil: fox at new york, what are you talking about? thank you, my friend, you're the best. [laughter] >> thank you. neil: larry sabato. my teenage sons, if you're watching right now, which is impossible, you're probably asleep, put the device down. more after this. we had long d. i'm really grateful that usaa was able to take care of my family while i was overseas serving. it was my very first car accident. we were hit from behind. i called usaa and the first thing they asked was 'are you ok?' they always thank you for your service, which is nice because as a spouse you serve too. we're the hayles and we're usaa members for life. see how much you could save with usaa
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>> oh, man, oh, man. he think i found the deal. i think i found the deal. a possible wrinkle in the upcoming talks, the north koreans can't foot the deal for the hotel. that's according to "the washington post." we have he been looking at hotel
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rates around the singapore, the $6,000 a night for one suite presumably for the leader. they bring a delegation and it could go up exponentially. we've found a better deal as low as $100 up to a few hundred a night for a swanky hotel, including this fullerton hotel, where the north koreans were looking at for $6,000 a night. and my staff, not all work and mr mroe no play. and look at a theme park. ten hotels on site ranging from $60 a night to $1,000 a night. do we know if that's inclusive of tickets and rides? it's not and that's a separate fee. i think we could find a way to negotiate that and i think it could sort of thrown into that.
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we don't want anything to get in the way and i think sometimes if you table each other and coming up with how many missiles you're going to do and what are you going to do. you could take a break and go on a spider-man ride or whatever, harry potter world. there are ways they can get around this. just to let you know, we have found at the universal theme park in singapore, no fewer than ten hotels, the most expensive $1,000 a night. what do you think you get for $1,000 a night. it's got to include like food. maybe not. all right. well, we're looking at that and so, too, is congressman-- >> no he's not really. he's from arizona. he watches the pennies and don't like the big budgets thrown at him and the government getting bigger. it's an interesting point to raise. and what do you do if they say
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we when visit a country, the country picks up the tab. in singapore's case, they're acting as intermediary, we're not going to pick up the tab, it's up to us. would you approve that to you, if it needs congressional approval, but i hate to break it to you, it does not. >> first of all, i'd see if the congressmen and women see if we could pool their hotel rewards together and save everybody money. neil: that's brilliant, that's brilliant. were you surprised by that? a lot of people looked at that and saying, that's a little weird. but what were your thoughts? >> yeah, i think it's a little bit unusual, but, i mean, the real question is, what kind of hard currency has north korea really have anyway? so, if we really want to get this done, then i think we are probably going to have to eat the bill on that. neil: here is a dumb question on my part, sir. why would we have to foot the bill?
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the chinese, they have a lot of money, why do we have to pick up the tab? >> if we're using the chinese money, we're kind of using our own money with the trade deficit. neil: touche' again, brilliant. so one way or the other we're paying. in all seriousness, you don't think this should be an impediment. and stateside we go what? there's all sorts of wheeling and dealing, but this shouldn't get in the way of the talks? >> i think we need to get the talks going. this is historic, this is an opportunity to try-- i mean, just think a year ago, we weren't walking about a-- talking about the summit between the leaders normallize something with north korea. we were talking would north korea shoot a rocket, a nuclear warhead at the united states some day and i think this is a real historic event and we need to try to facilitate, you know, moving towards a peaceful, more
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normalized north korean state particularly for that region, but also for the united states of america. neil: you know, the north koreans, i'm done belaboring this, they say they don't need handouts from the united states. if you read their press, government sponsored press, in other words, their press, they say this isn't about our getting money, it's about being treated with dignity and all that. what do you make of that? >> well, i think that that's probably in their mind that that's true. i mean, i'm not sure how many delegations they send and how many foreign summits that the north korean leader goes to, but i think that part of the reason is this asian idea of face and they want to save face and this is a way to save face for the north korean leader and i think it's well worth it for us. neil: switching gears to back to what we were originally supposed to, trying to save money for the american taxpayer, which i know we both appreciate, sir. the 17 million it's costing taxpayers at this point for the bob mueller investigation, what
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do you think of that payout is this what do you think of the premise we were raising in the last hour, that it almost compels those behind the probe to come up with something to justify the cost? >> that's only the direct dollars and it does provide a reverse to find something. and if you don't find something you look weak and inefficient. don't forget the indirect cost of everything the president and his staff are having to redirect resources of the federal government to try to respond to this and different individuals. so, this is a very expensive investigation, both directly, indirectly we're not even talking about the effective costs they're trying to delegitimize the investigation and the egg on the face of the doj. this is a cost of 17 million. direct cost. mabel the smallest cost to this, but it's going to provide a
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perverse incentive, no doubt. neil: do you think this could be wrapped up by september, the estimation that rudy guii had. >> yes, i think it should have been wrapped up a long time ago. yes, it can be wrapped up by september. we haven't seen the scope letter yet, but we really don't know what mr. mueller thinks his scope is, but, obviously, he thinks it's very broad and keep expanding it, apparently. it should have been resolved already. neil: congressman, thank you very, very much of the your ideas to sort of gather points from all of your colleagues and house the north korean in singapore is fiscal brilliance. touche' to you. >> thank you. neil: and we're trying to find out with the universal thing, if for $1,000 they have a funnel cake or a chimichonga.
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>> i am afraid, neil, and i'm very, very serious, that if this continues, our grandchildren may not have the same kind of country that you and i and millions of others watching were able to enjoy. neil: you know, of course, of of emanuel cleaver as a congressman. he's a minister by trade and that's the title he likes and enjoys the most, being called a minister, a pastor, tending to his flock and to those on the left and right who right now have fallen very, very far and very, very fast with language that's gotten coarse with
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roseanne and samantha bee. how do we tone this down? i was thinking of my next guest whose father died two years ago. you remember him as muhammad ali. the and rashita ali, good to have you and thinking of you and your wonderful dad. >> thank you. neil: as controversial as he was, he never got and dragged it out on the left or right with unsavory remarks. when he explained his opposition to the vietnam war, he explained it in real words, not curse words. >> that's correct. neil: and something has happened since and i'm wondering what you think of it. >> you know, neil, first of all, it's so good to see you again. neil: thank you. >> it's great to be on this show again. you know my dad and he believed in inclusion. he respected others, regardless of their religion, race or any barrier that may divide us and that's everything that my dad stood for was inclusion.
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he did embrace all people of of all race and religion and i think he brought the community together while he was here. neil: we look at the '60s and remember the period for the violence and unrest, and then smack dab in the middle of that was your father taking this war all the way to the united states supreme court, without once, without once defaming himself or those he targeted for criticism and now, you know, we have comedians who tweet outrageous things, you can go all the way up to a president who tweets questionable things. we live in an age and a time, i don't care if you're republican, democrat, where this is simply accepted and i'm wondering to emanuel cleaver's point, why that is. >> you know, neil, one of my dad's six core principles is conviction. so my dad always believed in if you really believe strongly and it's the right thing to do to stay strong at it and he was a
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perfect example he stayed true to who he was without defaming anyone or disreeffecting anyone. he stayed true to his religious beliefs until the day he passed. what we as a community need to understand, when we're giving of each other, and my dad, again, one of his core principles is service, you know, we stand stronger when we're together as one people, as a nation, and my dad said, it meant that we're strongest when we stand together as one people, one nation. neil: i wonder what you think, since your dad passed away, we have the bigger than life athletes to let us down or they're juiced up, drugged up, steroided up, whatever you want to call it and your dad used to talk not a responsibility, but that kids would look up to, in the context of everything, what
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we say because our kids are watching. >> you know, my dad has done so much for the youth and i think my dad used boxing as a platform to create change and encouraging this. the fact that at the muhammad ali center there's an exchange program where the center works with young athletes from kazakhstan where they create change in their community. that's what my dad did, he used boxing as a platform to make sh world a better place and encourages young athletes expected to do the same. >> when you see the nastiness and we've seen it on the left and right and a communicate who uses a c-word and another a racial term and i know we have to be very for giving and leary of recommending somebody gets fired. we live in a free country.
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what do you make of all this? >> i think when you're a celebrity and you know, you're a public figure, you have a social responsibility to your audience and the people and your fans, and the people that listen and watch you. i command channing dungee and abc executives for what they did, it was a brave move. it was quick and swift. they did the right thing. neil: do you think that tbs standing by samantha bee right now for saying something offensive about the president's daughter. she apologized to be fair and some on the right say that's a double standard. >> you know, it's never okay to offend people, no matter what side you're on. it's never okay to do that. neil: right. >> i do feel abc's situation is a little bit different because, you know, of course, you know, us as african-americans, we have been criticized and ridiculed
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since existence and i think there are certain things that you say that's not acceptable and i think that abc did the right thing. they had a responsibility to their viewers and also, to the boss, and i think certain things, you know, there's a line that you can't cross and i think that roseanne crossed that line. neil: rasheeda, very good seeing you and your family. two years since muhammad ali's passing he used to say to float like a butterfly and sting like a bee. little did we realize it was words that stung in a way without being crass. more after this. i will. but first, a little presentation. hijacking earth's geothermal energy supply.
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you always get the lowest price on our rooms, guaranteed?m let's get someone to say it with a really low voice. carl? lowest price guaranteed. what about the world's lowest limbo stick? how low can you go? nice one, carl. hey i've got an idea. just say, badda book. badda boom. badda book. badda boom. nice. always the lowest price, guaranteed. book now at choicehotels.com >> you know, i'm very fortunate to have dan here, he's an accountant by training, back with sasy and my buddy david asman and david is very, very
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cheap, he doesn't overpay on anything. we're looking at what could be a crisis, we don't want it to be, don't want to to get in the way of productive talks with the north koreans. but especially from "the washington post", saying we're considering picking up the tab for the north koreans and the hotel while they're in singapore. apparently they're not being cheap, but policy of their country, when they visit another country, the host country picks up the tab for the stay. and he doesn't leave that often and the singapore says no, we're not doing that. it's very embarrassing, really didn't happen. theed 6,000 a night figure that was quoted. we immediately assumed we could do better and we have been looking into it here, the variety of sights. the one that caught my attention
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was universal theme park there, that has over ten hotels ranging from $60 a night to $1,000 a night. i assume with $1,000 a night you get food, but there's no guaranteement look at other ones, as low as $118 a night. is this off trip advisor? it is. and this one is pricey, $328. fair mornts-- fairmont. not 6,000. this gets in the way of world peace and denuclearized world, at least a denuclearized korean peninsula, i think that cost shouldn't be the issue. again, dan, as the accountant here, maybe it is, what do you think? >> i'm a return on investment guy. it's all about roi. if it's going to cost us six grand, 12 grand. i think we go for it. neil: what's the most expensive
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hotel you've ever stayed at. >> $400 a night. neil: really? >> and i was out on a limb on that one. [laughter] >> what do you think of this? >> i was in singapore once and this is how cheap i was, i stayed with a friend who happened to be living there and i slept with-- on the couch. neil: is he still there? >> he's moved on. and there's a lesson here, everything the government does costs more. in this, it costs-- you're the accountant, but it's 20 times more than what you were able to find on the internet. 20 times more. neil: maybe they're throwing in security. >> that could be the case, but how much did we pay in the iran deal. how many billions to try to get a nuke deal, so-- >> and pallets of cash. >> and people who blow up their own family for fun don't know how to do their own security?
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>> you've looked at this? >> yes, i see the ritz has free internet for 373. so we could stop proliferation of nuclear in north korea $373. neil: and is it, wait a minute, this is a rogue regime, there's a rationale this is how they travel. they don't travel that often. >> this is how they do this. neil: you would not absorb this $. >> they say they're proud, but low on funds. high on weapons, low on funds. if you want to make a deal with them, you have to pay up. neil: why couldn't china pick up the tab? >> absolutely, china could pick up the tab. it's so absurd the way they spend money. governments spend money without care because it's not theirs. that's what they do. they don't care at all about the
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bill. neil: and the north korean delegation called this hotel and hi, we're the north korean delegation coming for the peace talk, they immediately jacked it up. >> i think they will have a premium charged with all the trouble north korea caused, saw it as an opportunity-- you know, we can probably get $6,000 a night and let's put it out there. >> i should say it's an expensive place. i picked up the tab for a sushi bar and we went to, it was like $500 for four people. so it's a pricey place and put it in my report, anyway. neil: if you read this, there's a serious point to this. one of the english press versions you get out of north korea, they do not want to be seen as look to go get handouts or economic incentives to the united states. our read is very different, that they are, to extract some sort of concessions on the nuclear
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technology, but they take this issue very differently than we do. so, how was this ultimately handled. or should be handled. quietly say, we'll do it. >> that's what "the washington post" says it needs to be done in a discrete manner. neil: we're all for transparency. >> this is the way it's always done, i don't know why they want to look at this one time. >> you look at a satellite, north korea and south korea at nighttime and south korea is lit up no matter what part of the country you go to. north korea, it's all black, zero economic growth in north korea. neil: maybe they just don't stay up late. >> they don't have anything resembling the free market and we're supposed to be introducing them to life in the real world where there's a free market and we expose them to this where nobody can afford to pay $6,000.
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neil, why don't we pass the hat around and everybody throw in a few bucks. neil: and the congressman said they could all combine their points in congress and deal with it. >> there you go. neil: the talk is to ultimately make a deal, we'll fork over a lot of money, not just on hotels, but their coming to the table with us-- >> i don't know if that's the case, but if you look at ultimately what price we have to pay to have a safe planet is, you know, what's that worth. >> but, with an unpredictible leader on both sides, is anything really going to come out of this anyway? so is a lot of money being sp t spent. neil: you were okay with the hotel thing. >> 373 dollars, the deal i came up with. >> the difference on this go-round, i don't disagree with you on the unpredictability on north korea--
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no. neil: a couple of weeks ago you said you trusted north korean more than donald trump. >> i didn't say-- >> that's outrageous. >> both are as unpredictable. they're unpredictable. neil: and one guy killed his own people. >> and trump-- >> and he killed his brother. >> the segment, we were supposed to be talking about robert mueller. i'm glad we didn't. >> neil, the difference in this go-round, i think that the sanctions are really felt to north korea and that's bringing them to the table. neil: so much so, they can't afford anything, including the hotel room. >> maybe the sanctions are felt in china and maybe that twisted the arm of the north koreans. neil: you might be right about that. thank you for reading this stuff and finding a hotel. you wonder on the pow wow at the oval office, john bolton wasn't
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>> all right, i want to take you to chicago to show you something right here. it's national gun violence awareness and there's a march going on in chicago, going on nationwide. and one will be happening in new york city as well as to draw attention to the school violence and school shootings that we've seen. my guest knows this quite well. jt lewis lost his brother jessie lewis in the sandy hook school shooting, the worst in american historic, with 26, and including his six-year-old brother. jt, it's good to have you back, you had sort of a big picture view about this, it's not all about guns. what did you mean by that? >> yeah, well, i mean, you look at this, these shootings have been going on forever, really. in the 19 years since columbine and that's when this gun control
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push started, what has been done? what shootings have been prevented? i mean, sandy hook was five years ago and even in that time what has b done? we've had democratic president, democratic congress and you know, i think it's just a political, a political idea, you know, to campaign around. i don't think they really want to do anything. i don't think that gun control is the answer, but, of course, we all agree we want kids to be safe and why this movement over school safety is taking off. we are waking up to the fact that gun control is not the answer, we need school safety, increasing security with armed guards, single entry points, metal detectors, an idea that's been floateded and that's where we are right now. neil: sandy hook, in your brother's case, you were not in school that day and you want to the same school. >> i was in the same system, i was in the middle school at the time. neil: now, in adam lanza's case the shooter, he was able to
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storm into the school with guns ablazing quite literally. were there any safety mechanisms set up there and he blew through it? >> there was no armed guard. you know, what happened he shot open the glass doors, easy access, the principal tried to confront him and he killed her. that was our line of defense in sandy hook elementary school and that's why i'm here pushing for more security, we need it. neil: so when you see these marchers and they're saying we have got to get a handle on guns and getting them so easily, and nikolas cruz behind the parkland shooting he was a walking warning sign and now we have the videos on the phone-- >> same with the sandy hook shooter. neil: and would have telegraphed that, but could easily get guns, in had his case he got them legally. in adam's case he, too, got this legally and they were at his mother's home where he lived. how do you police that or do you? >> yeah, there are definitely
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gun laws that we need. i'm not against all gun laws i just think, some of them are not going to help. look at each shooting, they're all isolated, very different. you know, some shooters take the guns from their parents, some get them legally, some get them illegally. the santa fe shooter, it was a handgun and a shoot gun. what gun laws would stop that? that's why-- >> and i stole those legally purchased guns from his father. >> exactly. that's is something we definitely need to look at at parents, if you have kids you need to keep your guns secured. that's obviously, that should be obvious. maybe there should be a fine or a penalty for people who keep them unsecured. but, you know, it's not the answer to start attacking the second amendment. i know we're reactionary and want to blame it on somebody, if we can find it and say guns are the problem, then it should be solved already. there are lots of laws. and they oversell how easy it is to set guns. it's not easy. neil: but there are a lot of
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them out there and those marching today say we've got to take a lot of the guns out there off the streets. >> exactly, another point, they always go to the australian buyback. it was much easier there and that's because there's 350 million guns in america. so, if we started, you know, these strict gun laws now what are we going to do about the 350 million already out there? you cannot buy them all back, they're going to be here. whether we like it or not. america's going to have guns for the rest of the country's history. we have to figure out how we can protect ourselves. neil: jt, thank you very much. the best to your mom. from such a horrific tragedy, trying to do a lot of good. >> thank you. neil: we will have more after this. [burke] at farmers, we've seen almost everything
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>> all right, we're ten days away from the big summit. a lot of people woring a lot of angles to make sure it goes well without a hitch. we were telling you about hotel costs and all of that stuff. right now the deputy spokesperson, adam, the importance of this meeting, i understand, but what stood out to me, getting ready for it, was who wasn't in the oval office yesterday with the president and number two north korean officials and that would be john bolton and of course, the vice-president. why would that be the case? >> well, a very astute observation, mr. cavuto. and i think the case -- the reason that's the case because those two, those two guys, pence and bolton are the skunks in the room as far as the north koreans are concerned. they've compared these negotiations or the deal they were thinking about to the libya deal which was basically in 2003, gadhafi is giving up his
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weapons of mass destruction, but remember, ten years later we bombed gadhafi to death. so that's what the koreans remember. so, i think that the president and his team said, look, we don't want anything to derail this. we don't want to cause offense so let's just keep john and the vice-president out of the room, but that doesn't mean-- by no means does it mean that they're out of the policy deliberations and they are very, very firmly, i think, behind the process that's driving these negotiations. neil: we should explain, of course, when we were bombing gadhafi, he went into hiding and then, you know, found in a sewer, a sewer pipe and his people dragged him out and killed him. >> his people killed him and not us. neil: and kim jong-un said, i don't want that. what have we assured him, do you think? >> well, i think that trump has made it clear that this is not about regime change. i think the chinese behind the scenes have told kim that they're going to ensure that he
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stays in power, and that he's not risking his regime by entering into these negotiations. but look, let's remember, i mean, the united states and north korea are about as far apart as any two negotiating parties can be. the united states wants comprehensive verifiable, irreversible disarmament quickly before we give them any incentives or rewards. and north korea wants incentives and rewards as a prelude to talking about the denuclearization. so, all the theater aside, you know, the letter, and the dinners in new york, and all of that sort of stuff, that's the theater. but behind the theater there are some huge chasms, and do we
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have the focus to see it through. neil: quido we? >> one other thing, you didn't talk about air bnb. neil: how idioticic of me. >> entrepreneurial, cheap, you've got a huge selection, you can choose your location and you could take the whole building. neil: don't you think though, if you're calling any of these hotels and you're the north korean delegation and explaining, hi, we're with the north korean delegation going to the peace summit they're jacking it up and would do the same in air bnb. >> i would do it differently, if i'm a hotel and want the north koreans coming, they're unr unpredictable, are they going to pay-- >> he just brings more to the table, folks, that's what makes him a great ambassador.
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we didn't think of that. we've found better deals, as little as $79 a night, a far cry from $6,000 a night the koreans want us to pay. we're here for you america. we'll see you monday, fox continues right now. how long do you think we'll keep -- oooooohhh! you stopped! you're gonna leave me back here at year 9? how did this happen? it turned out, a lot of people fell short, of even the average length of retirement. we have to think about not when we expect to live to, but when we could live to. let's plan for income that lasts all our years in retirement. prudential. bring your challenges.
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>> fox news alert. noon eastern, as president trump is working the phones this weekend at camp david. he and his team are really laying out their negotiating strategy for the sit-down in singapore. we heard from the president yesterday out on the south lawn. he's calling it the start of a process. nice to be with you at home on this saturday. i'm leland vittert. elizabeth: nice to be with you. i'm elizabeth prann. the president has been touted new low unemployment numbers on friday. let's head over to ellison barber over at the white house. >> the president is tweeting with the numbers and he also tweeted about them yesterday. about an hour before they were

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