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creativity. leland: considering love of mustaches, you could have been a judge. on that note, chris wallace from singapore coming up. have a great week. we will see you next weekend. chris: i'm chris wallace, live in singapore where president trump has just arrived for his historic summit with north korea's kim jong un. >> it's a one-time shot and i think it's going to work out very well. chris: this hour we will preview high-risk, high-reward and discuss what's at stake at president trump presses kim to give up nuclear and long-range missiles that pose a growing threat to the u.s. asking veteran diplomats about the challenge of negotiating with the north koreans. then the president's other summit this week, confronting
close allies angry after he slapped stiff new tariffs on exports. >> we are like the piggy-bank that everybody is robbing and that ends. chris: we will ask white house trade adviser peter navarro what are the chances to head off trade war and about the president's surprising call to bring moscow back into the g-7. >> i think it would be an asset to have russia back in. i think it'll be good for the world. chris: all right now on fox news sunday. ♪ ♪ chris: and hello again from fox news today in singapore. you are looking at the night skyline of this vibrant island nation of 5 and a half million people that's one to have financial capitals of the world. air force one just landed bringing president trump to a summit that was unthinkable just over 3 months ago. the man he came to meet, north korean leader kim jong un got here a little earlier today.
let's get you situated about exactly where we are. singapore is 10,000 miles from washington in southeast asia, much closer only 3,000 miles from pyongyang but that's the longest trip kim has taken since he became north korea's leader in 2011. the two leaders are set to meet esday at 9:00 a.m. on sentosa island, sentosa has amusement park and beaches and luxury cape will, will a hotel where the summit will take place. this hour we will discuss what to expect out of this summit, how both leaders are likely to approach it and what would qualify as success. but we begin with chief white house correspondent john roberts where president trump just landed, john. >> chris, good evening to you, president trump disembarking air force one into the steamy singapore night and taking a
step closer to history with that meeting tuesday morning here in singapore with kim jong un. the president telling the host tv and assembled prez pool under the wing of air force one that he's feeling good about that meeting, the president going back to hotel tonight for some rest tomorrow he will meet with prime minister of singapore, visited the white house extended invitation to the president to come to singapore, the president kill two birds with one stone. you mentioned kim jong un arriving earlier this afternoon in singapore. he landed at civilian airport aboard air china plane. national flyer carrier of china like the president american-made 747, he will meet with prime minister lee tomorrow. before leaving, president trump saying this is a one-shot opportunity that this is the only opportunity kim jong un is going to get to try to turn around the future of his nation because if these talks do not
bear fruit and north korea goes back to nuclear program, that is not going to work out well for kim and denuclearization is the only thing that president trump says that he will accept. but if things go well, chris, we could see kim jong un come to the white house, we could see a normalization of relations between the u.s. and north korea which would mean the u.s. putting an embassy in pyongyang, chris. chris: john roberts reporting from singapore's military air base, john, thank you. now, we want to get the view from inside north korea about this historic meeting. eric is the associated press chief in pyongyang, the only american reporter with a regular posting in north korea. eric, what are you hearing from officials there? what does kim want out of this summit and what is he prepared to give up? >> well, i think the main thing that north korean side wants as they said end to american
hostile policy towards their country which is something that they've said they wanted end to for many years now and it's hard to determine exactly what they are looking for but one of the things that normally would be on the table with that kind of thing would be removal of strategic nuclear assets, for instance, aircraft that could be used to attack this country where other things can be use today threaten the security of the regime. that's the main thing that they are after and in return, it's very hard to say exactly what they're willing to -- to discuss. i think there should be some surprises and room for progress at the summit but right now it's really hard to say exactly what's on the table. chris: well, let's press down on that because president trump says the ultimate u.s. demand is that north korea give up all of its nuclear weapons and all of its missiles from what you hear there, is that a realistic possibility? >> i think in the short term that's not a realistic possibility. i haven't heard any comments from any officials here that
that's something that they're looking at right away. i think when the north korean talks about denuclearization, what they've said so far indicated that when the whole world is ready to denuclearize, then the north korean side will do the same. now, whether that's actually just the negotiating position that they're taking as they go into talks, we would have to wait and see. i think if there's going to be denuclearization it's going to be a very long and difficult process and we haven't gotten any indication from pyongyang that anything will happen in the immediate future. chris: president trump say ifs north korea were to disarm that the u.s. and the west would invest heavily and boost the north korean economy but you say that kim and his regime view that more as a threat than a promise? >> well, i think definitely there's element of caution on that kind of promise or offer. the north korean side, i think,
is looking for better relations with neighbors first and foremost particularly with the south korean side and also with china. the problem with investment is that investment -- if it's heavy and comes too fast, then that can c changes could be too rapid, could be seen as threatening for this country. so although i think the north korean government would like to see investment and interesting in improving economy, they are at the same time cautious about exactly what kind of relationship they want with the united states in the future. chris: eric talmadge at post in pyongyang, eric, thanks for your time, sir. >> thank you very much. chris: so what should we expect from the singapore summit? we decide today bring in american diplomat with years of experience dealing with the north koreans, ambassador robert gallucci started negotiating with pyongyang during another nuclear crisis in 1994, former
governor bill richardson led more than a dozen missions with north korea negotiating for the release of americans detained there and gordon chang is an expert on north korea and china, ambassador gallucci, what should president trump's game plan be going into this summit, what should he hope to accomplish in the one or two days he meets with kim here in singapore? >> i think -- chris, i think the easy part is the meet and greet that he referred to in the white house lawn. i think that they could have good vibes, they can have nice appearance and optics. it's the meet and greet plus, the plus part. i think everybody is going to be looking to president trump to get something of substance and that doesn't mean a full deal, that means real -- real clarity on the question of whether the north will, in fact, in a reasonable amount of time give
up in a verified way its nuclear weapon's capability. everybody is looking for that. if he does not get that, it's very hard to call it a success. if he does get that, no matter what else happens, it will be a success. chris: let my bring in governor richardson. i want to play a clip from you from president trump earlier this week that surprised a lot of people. governor, here it is. >> i think i'm very well prepared, i don't think i have to prepare very much. it's about attitude, it's about willingness to get things done. chris: governor, is that what this summit is really about, the two men getting together face to face and sizing each other up, deciding whether or not they can do business and we now hear talk that president trump may right at the start of the summit on tuesday pull gently, pull kim aside for a one-on-one before they meet with their full delegations, would that be a
good idea or not? >> that would be a good idea because the north koreans never make deals with counterparts across the negotiating table. they're very focus, relentless, they are very well prepared but you make deals with them on the side, you know, i think that facility in singapore is good for that. you take him for a walk or over a meal. i think the one-on-one is very important. the only caution i would give the president is not be photographed too much with a smiling kim jong un because they use that in north korea for dramatic propaganda purpose the north koreans have already gotten one major concession, a meeting with the president. they are going to want a peace treaty, security guaranty. i would wait on those until the north koreans deliver some kind of verification, inspections, timelines, i think that's going to be very important. chris: mr. chang, you say and
really following up on what governor richardson says that north korea has already gotten a lot of concessions like the very fact that this summit is being held. what do you think kim wants out of this day or so in singapore? >> certainly kim wants the photographs of him shaking hands with president trump because that's legitimization and even more important that means he solidifies role at home. we are going to see pictures of trump and kim for decades in north korea. so, you know, president trump gives up a lot of leverage as soon as he shakes hand with kim and that means if he doesn't get firm commitments to dismantle the weapon's programs, then we are going to be working uphill. we could do that because we have a lot of leverage but nonetheless puts kim in the driver's seat at least for a little while. chris: governor richardson, you have been to north korea on 8 times on missions back in 2005, you met with kim's father kim
jong-il what stands out of standing across the stable and negotiating with the north koreans? >> well, first, they are very prepared. they know what they want, they never say no. you can brag on negotiations, they never tell you no, at the same time they want that personal trust. they want to feel that you can deliver and you can negotiate with them. kim jong un, i understand, is not like his father. his father was like a rug merchant. you get a political prisoner in exchange you get visit of a former president. kim jong un is not that way. i think he's more strategic. i think he wants private sector assistance for north korea rather than what his father wanted which was hand-outs and foreign aid. so i think we are dealing with a man that we probably have underestimated and he's going to
be very well prepared on some of the nuclear and missile issues and i hope the president, and i worry sometimes that the president will not be as prepared. chris: let's, gentlemen, let's talk about some of the key issues that we think are going to come up in this summit. i want to begin with acronym we will hear a lot about cvid, complete verifiable, irreversible denuclearization. here is how the president's national security adviser john bolton defined that back in april. >> north korea has to give up basically its whole program before the u.s. begins to relieve economic sanctions. >> yh, relieng that pressure isn't going to make negotiation easier, it could make it harder. chris: mr. chang, do you think that kim will ever give up entire missile and nuclear program, what's the most that we can hope for in that area? >> yeah, i think we could actually get cvid. this is not a kim question,
though. kim certainly doesn't want to give up missiles or nukes, he doesn't want to give up any of that, of course, this is an issue of what president trump will do, whether president trump will use the elements of erican power to force kim to do what he doesn't want to do. for instance, we can tightening sanctions on north korea, although the sanctions restrict, they are not strict enough and we need to put sanctions on north korea's major power backers, the chinese and russians who have been violating sanctions blatantly for the last three months. so clearly there's a lot that we can do. now, we can do those things, it's a trump question, though, chris, it's not a kim question. chris: let me -- i've got about a minute or so left and i want to get to a couple of quick answers on other issues, ambassador gallucci, president trump is also talking about an agreement between north and south korea, an effect i -- effective peace treaty and there's even talk that the
president might offer normalization if relations in the u.s. embassy in pyongyang, are those good ideas, are those good places to start, and if you begin there, isn't it going to be almost impossible to maintain the sanction's regime, the maximum pressure against north korea? >> chris, this meeting is cart before the horse. you can make the whole negotiation a cart before the horse. the normalizationrocess the president refer today a process should really be following the gains that we are looking to make at this summit and in the following meetings. so, yes, ultimately having normalization of relations, exchange of liaison offices, exchange of embassies all is a good idea but should be done clearly in the course of a step by step phase movement in which we get what we need to get and it means performance on the
nuclear weapons and nuclear program, production capability, material and ballistic missile program. taking the political part of that apart is to give the concession, the major concession that the north koreans seek, something we should be willing to do eventually. chris: governor, i have about 30 seconds, quick question, if president trump brings up human rights and the repression inside north korea, how will that be received by kim? >> well, he will be nervous about it but the president should bring those issues up. the issue is in north korea. the remains of our soldiers from the korean war should be returned to their families. there's about 5,000 of those. help the japanese on the abduction issue. i think that's important, but i think if kim is going to want modernization of his economy, a
good trade-off will be strong commitment of his improving the human rights situation in north korea which is pretty bad. the president should not leave human rights aside in this negotiation. chris: gentlemen, thank you, thank you all so much for participating this morning. we will see how the world turns this week. up next, we will talk with two american reporters who cover the white house and state department and it made the long trip here, one of their sources we should expect from the singapore summit, when we come back with much more from fox news sunday live in singapore. ♪ legendary jockey victor espinoza loves winning just as much... as his horse loves snacking. ♪ ♪ that's why he uses the chase mobile® app, to pay practically anyone, at any bank. ♪ ♪
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>> how long would it figure out to know whether they are serious or not, maybe a minute. chris: gut instinct on whether he will make a deal with kim jong un at historic summit that is now hours away. we want to bring of the two literally thousands of reporters that have come to singapore to cover the historic event. david nakamura and fox news correspondent rich edison who covers the state department, welcome, gentlemen. this is kind of cool place to be, isn't it? >> not bad. [laughter] chris: i shouldn't say cool because the humidity and heat are off the charts. it's a fascinating place. david, i want to start with you and what strikes me as we approach the summit is how dramatically president trump has lowered the expectations and his goals for this summit, originally there was talk about the complete denuclearization of
north korea, now, there's talk about a getting to know you process. pretty substantial. >> very substantial. i think some of that, chris, is due to what we saw leading up to the summit. the president declared on a very fast time frame and we wanted to meet as soon as possible and we saw hiccups along the way including the president backing out two weeks before the summit and i think the negotiations were hitting road block and that's not unexpected. people who negotiate with north koreans in the past say they are difficult to nail down ahead of summits and you have a condensed time frame. the president is readjusting to what he was hearing from negotiating team on the ground in korea. i think they had at least five different sessions trying to nail down what is going to take place in summit and the white house still not said what that is. the president talked about meet and greet tomorrow and stressed the historic nature. chris: tuesday. >> tuesday. historic nature of that. i think to say, look, just the meeting is a big deal.
as some of your guests have talked about, not big deal enough. chris: nothing defines the split inside the administration more than two people, first national security adviser john bolton who originally said when this meeting was first announced, here is what the meeting should be. president trump should meet with kim and say, when are you going to deliver all of your nukes and all of your missiles in the next week? he was like, you deliver and we will talk about what we may give and then you've got the new secretary of state mike pompeo who seems to have taken a much longer view of this whole process. i guess the question is how dramatic a split is there inside the president's foreign policy team. >> it's significant but it's the type of split that you have national security adviser who went through some of this during the bush administration and there was from 1994 to 2002 an agreement in place between
united states and north korea where there were inspectors living inside of north korea, they did destroy nuclear infrastructure and that didn't hold. now you have a secretary of state who comes in 21st century in the trump administration who is the most senior person in the last 18 years to have met with kim jong un or to meet with north korean leadership, tot with dictator of north korea, he's been there twice. we asked the secretary of state directly what his impression of kim was and he was -- i wouldn't want to say complementary but certainly wouldn't say anything very bad about the conversation that he had with him when he went to north korea. chris: i will tell you two things he told me off camera, i guess i can say it, one i can say he's very well prepared, very well versed and i said u you think he understands english because the conversation was all being translated and he said i had the distinct impression as i was making my point he understood the point i was making and took the time for translation to figure out his response. >> the question if he really
understands waiting for translation, sometimes they put show on in front of translators. the key thing the secretary of state has said going into this, a true tragedy if kim jong un doesn't take advantage. it's the north koreans who have to move here but unlike national security adviser, he wants to give them that opportunity and leeway. >> it's interesting that you see john bolton has made the trip and going to be part. we saw him sidelined a bit a week or so when north korean official visited the white house, john bolton was not in the meetings. chris: do you think he will be sit down in the meeting? >> he's involved in the meeting at least. chris: north koreans just plain don't like him, right in. >> hostile language about john bolton. stayed away from doing that with donald trump. certainly there's a lot of hard feelings from the bush days when john bolton advocated -- chris: david, the president has said from the start this week in canada, if this meeting is a waste of time, i am going to walk out.
do you think there are any circumstances on which he would walk out or given probably at the very least there's going to be the optics to have two men meeting and talking that he will play the singapore as disaster? >> a lot of ground work, rough process. the president really wants this to be a success. he sees political victory here. he wants something predecessor have done, start meeting, he lowered expectations, i see very unlikely the president gets up and walks out, you know, even if he won't see a sort of grand bargain in the end which no one expects to happen. it's a start of a process. the president said it could take more meetings and certainly the staff to nail down details. chris: your man, mike pompeo at the state department has obviously been the leader in terms of negotiating with the north koreans, kim and then also his vice chairman, what's the sense that you're getting from
your sources about how this process plays out after singapore, is it a long process, are we talking about months, are we talking about years, talking about multiple summits, what's your sense of the process. >> multiple summits and continued conversations, and remember, the united states and north korea under trump administration have already had conversations going back to when otto warmbier has been returned to the united states. a lot of conversations have taken place even before secretary of state mike pompeo took over at the state's department. as cia director has been to north korea and as of secretary of state he has been there. i think now you're even hearing the president publicly acknowledge because i think of the results that you're hearing from the conversations of state department officials that this is going to take more than one meeting, high-level meeting also with the continued conversations at the staff level to try to get this done. there are major issues that they have to work through here to have a successful agreement. chris: all right, having said all of that, david, how invested
is president trump in this negotiation with kim? you know, in the early heavy days right after the announcement of the summit, the president was thoroughly enjoying the crowds chanting nobel peace prize, fairly things have calmed down, how bad does he want a deal and is there a danger that he could fall exactly into the trap that barack obama he says fell into with iran that he pushes for a deal even if it's not the right deal? >> right, that's a danger and it could be a deal very similar to what we saw with iran, extended period of time and one that north korea could get economic benefits down the road. how invested he is, he's extremely invested. if you look around the world with policy, alienated allies. he's trying to use diplomatic means to achieve something. it's a real important moment for him. chris: david, rich, thank you both, thank you both for joining us, let's hope for lots of news
this week. >> yeah. chris: before president trump flew here to meet with long-time enemy, as david said he confronted u.s. allies of tariffs at the g-7 economic summit in canada. we will discuss where things stand on that issue with white house trade adviser peter navarro as fox news sunday continues live from singapore. we're drowning in information. where in all of this is the stuff that matters? the stakes are so high, your finances, your future. how do you solve this? you partner with a firm that combines trusted, personal advice with the cutting edge tools and insights to help you not only see your potential, but live it too. morgan stanley.
chris: a look at the striking marina bay sands hotel here in singapore with iconic sky park ahead of tuesday's landmark summit. before president trump traveled to asia, he faced other world leaders at the group of 7 economic summit in canada. allies that are upset over new tariffs he's imposed on steel and aluminum import. joining us now one to have architects of that controversial plan, white house trade adviser peter navarro. mr. navarro, the summit ended with a nasty dust-up between president trump and canadian prime minister trudeau. he held a news conference after the summit in which he said canada will retaliate for tariffs that the u.s. has imposed on canadian aluminum and steel. here is trudeau. >> we move forward with retaliatory measures on july 1st
applying equivalent tariffs to the ones that the americans have unjustly applied to us. canadians were polite, reasonable but we also will not be pushed around. chris: well, president trump responded with this tweet while flying here on air force one to singapore. trudeau of canada acted so meek and mild during g7 meetings only to give news conference after i left. very dishonest and weak. question, mr. navarro is that really how we want to deal with our second biggest trading partner? >> chris, there's a special place in hell for any foreign leader that engages in bad faith diplomacy with president donald trump and tries to stab him in the door and that's what trudeau did with the conference, that's what weak dishonest justin
trudeau did. that comes from air force one. i tell you this, from my friends in canada, that was one of the worst political miscalculations of canadian leader in modern canadian history. all justin trudeau had to do was take the win. president trump did the courtesy to justin trudeau to travel to quebec for the summit. he had other things, bigger things on his plate in singapore where you are now, chris, he did him a favor and he was willing to sign that socialist communique and what did trudeau do as soon as -- as soon as the plane took off from canadian air space, trudeau stuck our president in the back, that will not stand. as far as retaliation goes, the american press needs to do a much better job of what the canadians are getting ready to do because it's nothing short of an attack on our political system and it's nothing short of canada trying to raise its high protectionist barriers even higher on things like maple
syrup and other goods. chris: mr. navarro i do have to prez this, you used strong words, stab in the back, place in hell, that came from air force, are those the views, are those the words of the president? >> those are my words but they are the sentiment that was on air force one after that -- look, chris, this was -- this was just wrong what trudeau was doing. the canadians are bundling our trade relationships and it's due to leadership. take nafta, for example, we have a deal, we would have a great deal with nafta by now if canadians would spend more time at bargaining table and less time lobbying capitol hill and press and state governments here. chris: all right. >> they are simply not playing pair, dishonest, weak. chris: well, i want to pick up on this, though, mr. navarro because it isn't just canada,
germany's chancellor angela merkel released a photo of the summit and there was no comment on it but it certainly looked like it was president trump against the other members of the g6, america's closest allies and i want to pick up on this point because the last time you were on with me on fox news sunday you said that no country would retaliate for the tariffs that we were going to impose but let's take a look at, in fact, what has happened since we last talked. canada has announced tariffs on 13 billion-dollars in u.s. goods, theopean union will impose tariffs on $3 billion in american products. i understand, sir, that the objective of the president's trade policy with your advice somewhat call it a trade war is to get the other countries to lower their tariffs on us, but hasn't the practical effect been to get them to raise their tariffs on our products? >> so one of my favorite quotes
of this president happened just yesterday when he said we've been the piggy-bank for the world and that's got to stop. if you look at angela merkel's europe, you see continent where we run 151 billion-dollar trade deficit in goods every year. germany has tariffs on autos four times higher than our tariffs on equivalent german import here and they sell three times as many cars as we sell them. so on the issue alone, we have allies strategically but when it comes to trade disputes, the allies basically are robbing us blind. the president is not going to put up that with that and in terms of retaliation, i want to get back to canadian miscalculation here. chris: i -- i don't mean to interrupt but i do want to move on because we have limited time and i've got some other questions because the president also shocked the allies just
before he came to canada by suggesting, pushing the idea that russia should be invited back into the g7 to make it the g8, the meeting, the group of economic world leaders. here is the president on that. >> it may not be politically correct but we have a world to run and if g7 which used to be the g8, they threw russia out, they should let russia come back in. chris: but mr., navarro, russiat invaded ukraine and seized crimea, why does the president think they should in effect be rewarded when they haven't done anything to clean up their action, they are still in crimea by welcoming them back into the g8? >> chris, let me say a couple of things, first of all, that one is above my pay grade. ambassador bolton, mike pompeo, the president himself deal with issues like that but just
observationally, look at what's happening now in singapore. the president is willing to talk to kim jong un in the hope that we can deal with denuclearization on the korean peninsula. he's willing to talk with any world leader and i think the philosophy here is that when we have a discussions with world leaders, we should get everybody together so that we can basically hammer some of these problems out. so i think that the bigger problem here from my point of view, i'm the trade guy is that we have a bunch of countries out there whether it's strategic competitors likehina or allies like europe and canada basically using us as piggy-bank, using unfair trade practices and my job at the white house is to help the president get jobs, good jobs, manufacturing jobs to the working men and women of america and we can't do that unless we upset the existing world order which basically is tremendously bias. we lose half a trillion dollars of wealth every single year because of the unfair trade
practices and that's what the president -- chris: let's go back. mr. navarro, let's go back to a trade issue then, you are a notorious hardliner on china and the unfair trade practices there. well, you wrote a book a few years ago called death by china, so here is my question -- >> my code name at ceo is notorious, go ahead. chris: okay. that's interesting. >> it's a joke, chris. chris: how do you explain the decision by president trump to lift the sanctions against the chinese telecom company zte after it had violated our sanctions, our ban on doing business with north korea and iran and was considered to be a serious national security risk? why on earth would we do that? >> i think you should have secretary of commerce wilbur ross to explain the details of what is a very hard negotiation
that was done, but i can tell you this, it's going to be three spikes you're out on zte. if they do one more additional thing, they will be shut down. we have a bad actor in zte, the president did this as a personal favor to the president of china as a way of showing sod good will for bigger efforts such as the one here in singapore but it will be three spikes you're out for zte and everybody understands that within this administration. they are on notice. we will have monitors inside the company. they are changing board of directors and changing management and they are paying us a billion and a half dollars in order to continue -- chris: i want you to get me a one-sentence answer on my final question, zte -- did the zte decision give you some heartburn? >> i don't get heartburn.
justin trudeau tried to give me a heartburn. chris: i have to think about another diagnosis. >> good luck in singapore. chris: thank you, president trump's surprising call to bring russia into the economic group world leaders, we will discuss that and more with group sunday in dc as fox news sunday reports ahead of u.s.-north korea summit live in singapore. sfx: muffled whistle text alert. i'm your phone, stuck down here between your seat and your console, playing a little hide-n-seek. cold... warmer... warmer... ah boiling. jackpot. and if you've got cut-rate car insurance, you could be picking up these charges yourself. so get allstate, where agents help keep you protected from mayhem... ...like me. mayhem is everywhere.
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reaction of u.s. allies to tough new trade policy and time now for sunday group back in washington former republican congressman jason chaffetz. adrienne elrod, jonah goldberg of national review. jonah, let me start with you, optics in canada and explosive words from peter navarro that clearly was unlike a direct message from president trump on air force one? >> yes, so i'm not an expert on all things but i'm pretty sure your admittance to hell is not entirely contingent upon attitude on donald trump and whether or not you agree with trade policies. i'm not sure there's a special place in trudeau. i thought that was a little over the top and donald trump's
performance in china. i understand he likes optics, be seen to be standing up into globalist order but these are our closest allies and justifying tariffs that's national security issue and when pressed on it, no, it's because of dairy subsidies in canada and i think that's going to create real policy problems going forward. >> adrienne, democrats like idea of protections to protect u.s. industries, from the democratic point of view with new trade policy and talk of tariffs, is president trump on the right track? >> no, absolutely not, chris, look, democrats are all for protecting u.s. workers but at the same time we recognize that getting into a trade war with some of our biggest allies photobli canada and germany in this situation is not the right course of action for workers. this is what the president has done from the very beginning, we
know that he did not consult with economic advisers before he imposed tariffs on chinese steel and aluminum and now we are seeing him display erratic chaotic type of behavior with closest allies. that is not a way to help american workers. chris: congressman chaffetz you want to respond to that? >> the president was elected to do something other than the status quo and his disruption was certainly very successful in that summit. that's what he was elected to do. that's what he's doing and i think in his -- from his approach, that puts the united states in a position to now go back and push a negotiation so that we can get to something that is fair and balance and equal. i think that's what the president is after and i think that's what we will eventually get to. chris: but congressman chaffetz, president trump keeps saying and peter navarro says that, look, the point of all and that eventually our allies and countries like china will cave
and lower trade barriers but the result at least so far and i understand it's early instead of lowering their trade barriers in response to our threats, they are raising their tariffs. i mean, can't you make the argument that instead of solvi the problem we are creating a trade war? >> i think the president is after the long-term goal of making sure that there's an equalization that happens across our borders. we love canada, we love germany, these are our allies but it is not fair and the people within those industries who want to export to those countries know how imbalance it is and that's why donald trump enjoys so much support from those people in those industries and i think that will accelerate the need to now that there's a problem to go back and it's been highlighted by the president to go back and solve that and i think he will. chris: jonah, do you buy that? >> no, not at all, with all due respect, i think all of this is premised on a lot of economic
policies which would be illustrated to starting with the fact that president trump loves to talk about how terrible trade deficits are about how he's bragging how much foreign investment we are getting. foreign investment is tin verse of trade deficits because all of those dollars have to come back to america somehow. the bigger your trade deficit the more foreign investment you get. this is all premised on accounting fiction that deficits are terrible. the things we are putting tariffs on are much more important to industries in america that use them. we use a lot of steel, we make steel more expensive, we hurt more workers and cost more jobs than we save. this is a blinkered 1930's approach to economic policy and it makes no sense whatsoever. chris: i have a couple of minutes left and i want to get to one of the subject adrienne, what do you make of president trump's surprising call to bring russia back into the economic summit to make the g7, the g8.
>> the fact that he's aliening allies, i don't know what vladimir putin has on him but it's absolutely ridiculous to even insinuate given all of the international rules that russia has violated most notably going into crimea that he would invite them -- make it g8 again. ludacris and makes you wonder what vladimir putin has on president trump. chris: i know that you're not one that you like, but one that people would raise, add suggestion to make to invite russia back in right in the middle of the russia investigation in the united states. >> i see nothing in russia's behavior that would justify them
back in and make it to the g8. i just don't see that. the invasion of crimea, attack on our financial systems, the meddling in an election, the stealing of our intellectual property, i mean, tre's nothing on that checklist that would say, hey, this is a good idea, russia is now behaving better, let's bring them back in as a partner in these discussions and make it g8. i don't get it. chris: so, well, so let me ask you, as one of our political analysts, why do you think he's doing it? >> i don't know, i don't know. the president had a mission to disrupt the current status quo with the g7 and get after some of the trade imbalances, but i think that was a distraction to suddenly suggest that russia should be part of t discussions. it came from out of the blue, ii don't understand it. chris: 30 seconds, jonah, what do you think is going on here? >> i'm not sure i buy it because
putin has something on trump explanation, i think it may be, in fact, because president trump ends to like to pick on people he thinks he get away picking on appear he see it is g7 people like trudeau as pushovers and meanwhile he tends to respect countries and strong leaders that don't like democracy and -- and behave in a sort of authoritarian way and i think he kind of likes xi of china, kim and putin because they exert manfullness. chris: something to talk about. thank you, panel. see you sunday back in dc. up next, what we can learn about the trump-kim summit from summits of the past, showmanship and substance and sometimes agreements that change the course of history. legendary jockey victor espinoza loves winning just as much... as his horse loves snacking. ♪ ♪
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trump-kim summit goes back to earlier time 30 or 40 years ago when the leaders of two great super powers would get together with the world's fate hanging in the ballots. for sheer drama and long-term significance, nothing rivals the talks between ronald reagan and micah gorvocah. when they met in geneva, first summit of leaders between u.s. and soviet union in six years, first encounter of long-life cold warrior and businessman russian drew attention, white house reporter was there. >> certainly no major breakthrough and we certainly don't expect anything like that at all. we don't know what's going to happen in the two days of talk, that's the telling sign, that's what we are told by u.s. officials, one of the keys to the summit is how the two men get on during the 12 hours they'll be spending together.
there were no breakthroughs but the two leaders decided they could do business. 11 months later they held a summit in iceland. gorbochah with massive arm's cuts only if reagan gave up missile defense plan and reagan refused and walked out. u.s.-russian relations went into the deep freeze but deadlock in iceland led to deals a year later. they signed a historic agreement to eliminate all medium-range missiles in europe although star wars at the long-range weapons. >> the general secretary and i expressed different points of view and we did so bluntly. >> seems clear that he's ready to deal with the u.s. but only on own terms and at his own pace for a president with just a year left in office, that may mean steady progress but not the big finish he had hoped for. but there was a big finish in
moscow in may of 1988, walking through red square, reagan was asked whether he still thought russia was an evil empire? >> no, i was talking about another time and another era. >> again, no deal on the icbm's the two super powers aimed at each other but reagan spent time pushing for human rights in russia setting stage for future change. >> as u.s. officials become increasingly certain they'll be no big agreements here, they are playing up the president's contact with the soviet people saying it will be great theater and could mark something of a turning point and super power relations. that turning point came in november of 1989 when the berlin wall came down in eastern europe was set free. two years later, the soviet union was officially dissolved. we can only hope the diplomacy of donald trump and kim jong un brings change that says long
lasting. for full coverage of the trump-kim summit, please stay tune to this station and fox news channel. and that's it for today, have a great week and we will see you back in washington next fox news sunday. the journal editorial report. ♪ ♪ paul: welcome to the journal editorial report, i'm paul gigot. highly-anticipated report from the justice's intern al watchdog reportedly expected to formal james comey, that report by justice department inspector general michael horowitz was set to be released next thursday with horowitz to testify congress and what's behind the delay and what should we be looking for in the final report