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after the show show for more information. >> k-9 warriors. it's wednesday. >> run to the radio. [♪] >> bill: it's 9:00 and president trump officially back home after the historic trip overseas and now facing congress on a potential treaty to seal the deal. good morning. day three. new studio, new format. i'm bill hemmer. >> sandra: just as exciting. i'm sandra smith. the president returning to washington this morning declaring north korea is no longer a threat and defending the plan to scale back u.s. military operations there. the president tweeting, quote, we save a fortune by not going war games as long as we're negotiating in good faith which both sides are.
>> bill: and said this with our sean hannity. >> without the rhetoric we wouldn't have been here. i believe that. we did sanctions and all the things you do but without the rhetoric, other administrations, i don't want to get specific on that, but they had a policy of silence. if they said something very bad or threatening or horrible, just don't answer. that's not the answer. that's not what you have to do. >> bill: there's a lot more in that story we're watching today. also this. a war of words between rod rosenstein and the republicans on a committee in the house. catherine herridge has more and kevin corke has more. >> good morning. great to be with you and there's cynicism that suggests the president gave kim jong-un a great deal but that's a photo op
that will play well in pong yeong and the president just arrived not long ago after the whirlwind strip that some argue was long on handshakes and short on detail. he took to twitter saying everybody can now feel safer than the day i took office. there is no longer a nuclear threat from north korea. meeting with kim jong-un was an interesting and positive experience. north korea has great potential for the future but is often the case in capitol hill there are divergent opinions on what was and was not accomplished by that meeting. >> president trump seems to have given away two or three of the major things kim jong-un wanted. a meeting with flags next to each other, no delay of exercises with south korea without getting anything in return.
>> they wouldn't be talking to trump unless they believed he was serious about using military force. president trum has done more in 500 days to deal with korea than every president in the last 30 years. >> reporter: meanwhile in a fox news exclusive the president said both sides, at least so far, are working towards peace. >> we had a very good feel right from the beginning and were able to get something very important done and some thing happened after that were signed, sean, where we're getting rid of certain missile research areas and testing sites. they're getting rid of a lot. >> reporter: president trump speaking with our sean hannity and we'll have more with bret baier later and we have nothing on the schedule. >> bill: circle this on the calendar. it will change. kevin corke leading our coverage today. >> sandra: for more e-mails
describing the deputy attorney general threatening to turn the table on house republicans by hitting them with a document. >> reporter: and they documented the january meeting with the deputy attorney general rob rosenstein and fbi director, christopher ray and devin nunes and he threatens to turning the tables on the committee regarding the russian probe saying they criticized the committee for sending our request in writing and was critical of the request to have doj, fbi do the same when responding. one saying if the committee likes being litigators then we, the department of justice are too litigators and we'll subpoena your records and e-mails referring to the house committee and congress overall. the e-mails indicate a second
committee staffer backs up the account writing, let me add writing the deputy attorney general launch an attack for vigorous oversight was disheartening and having the nation's number one law enforcement officer threaten to subpoena e-mails is chilling. devin nunes said they were referred to the speaker office and they've encouraged the committee to work through the in er general where complaint are filed, sandra. >> sandra: what does the fbi and doj have to say? >> reporter: both are disputing the characterization. an official said rosenstein never threatened a criminal investigation writing he made the point that as an american citizen charged with the offense of content of congress he'd have the right to defend himself with production of relevant e-mails
and text messages and calling them as witness to demonstrate their allegations are false. on tucker carlson last night the attorney general not at the january meeting said he backed up rosenstein's account. >> i'm confident deputy rosenstein, 28 years in the department of justice did not improperly threaten anyone on that occasion. but we do believe we have tried to be cooperative one them and make progress as the months have gone by and in fact have had some good relationships with top members of congress. >> reporter: the department official said rosenstein will of the the house general counsel conduct an internal investigation of staffers and they believe the department has not fully cooperated and many records including many about an fbi alleged human source have not been provided. >> sandra: thank you for your
reporting. >> bill: senator rand paul is with me now. good morning on capitol hill. >> thanks for having me. >> bill: you had it sink in for 36 hours. what do you think about singapore? >> i'm hopeful and if it comes to fruition and we get denuclearization president trump will have done something historic. we're in the beginning so just the fact north korea signs an agreement doesn't always mean they'll adhere but i am hopeful. >> bill: okay. i don't know what's going on with you and lindsey graham but it's become quite apparent it's public. you had a response for him about north korea and he had a response about you and it's gone back and forth and last night senator graham was on with martha and fired the last shot. let's let viewers listen to this. >> contrary to what senator paul says the only way to get north korea to give up weapons is for them to believe they're better off without it than with it and
that's president trump convincing them they cannot go on the same path. >> bill: you called them a danger the other day. what's going on? >> i think he's dangerously naive. i think in the midst of this historic opening president trump has orchestrated for lindsey graham to say he wants to declare a war on north korea is naive and the wrong way to go. it's one problem i have with him and we were on the floor of the senate yesterday arguing whether someone accused of a crime should get a lawyer or trial. he frankly believes he has the power and he and the government should design whether you get a trial by jury or whether you get the protections of the fifth amendment. i think that is very alarming. he actually defending the internment of the japanese and said if we let them have attorneys during world war ii it would have been a big mess. yeah, it could have possibly
been a big mess in favor of the constitution. >> bill: i feel like we're in a primary battle. keep it on north korea. he said if diplomacy fails keep the military option on the table. what's wrong with that? >> what he said is he's preparing an authorization to use force against north korea. he's not talking about the imapplied -- implied force that backs up diplomacy and there's implied force and implied weight of the u.s. military behind the president, yes, but to explicitly in the middle of negotiations to say he wants to declare a war is naive and counterproductive. >> bill: let's go back to the what the president said days ago. i heard opinions from the hill and if they go to congress and submit a treaty, which has not yet been made granted, you'll go at it like a pinata, what's the
chance of it going through? >> it depends on what's agreed to and if there's bilateral things and if the u.s. is promising certain things it may require a treaty but i'm very open to the negotiations president trump has started. i think president trump is an historic figure in the sense that i don't think bush would have done this or think obama would have done it. they would have litigated it to death with attorneys saying we can't meet with the north korea leader. that went on for a decade and why we got nowhere and president trump being able to think outside the box and willing to do something no one else in the establishment was willing to do, may well bring peace on the korean peninsula. >> bill: that's a strong statement. senator, you come back any time. rand paul, thank you for your time on the hill. the republican senator from kentucky there. that tail end comment quite
optimistic but keep an eye on it. >> sandra: we heard from senator rand paul and senator lindsey graham as you played a bite from last night what does marco rubio think and we'll joining us. 10:00 a.m. eastern time here in "america's newsroom." >> bill: one thing that's apparent about the deal the reaction we're get from capitol hill and law americaers -- law makers are endless. >> sandra: and what congress believes what their role will be on all of this because senator marco rubio we want to ask if there should be a vote on the deal. >> bill: and 11 minutes past the hour now. another big story brewing today. tomorrow, we finally see the highly-anticipated watchdog report digging into the clinton
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>> bill: we're learning president trump will likely receive a briefing before the release of the interm investigation on the hillary clinton e-mail probe expect to go public tomorrow. congressman bob goodlatte and chairman of the house judiciary committee. good morning to you. >> i'm well, bill, thank you.
it's great to be with you and your viewers. >> bill: thank you very much for being here. you've been pushing this for a long time. tell us what you think's in it. >> i think it's going to put a lot of the missing pieces in this giant puzzle together. the inspector general has after all the opportunity to inspect thousands and thousands of documents and spent a year on the investigation and looking forward to what he has to say. we'll get to see it maybe a few hours before it goes public but i think it's most important the american people see this report because i think it's going to shed light on how the federal bureau of investigation mishandled the whole investigation with regard to former secretary of state and presidential candidate, hillary clinton. and when you contrast that with the way they've handled the investigation into the so-called trump/russia collusion i think
people will be astonished there was this bias in the federal bureau of investigation. >> bill: to be clear the report tomorrow is just hillary clinton's e-mail matter and how james comey handled it. >> and went to the trump/russia investigation and peter strzok and lisa page and james comey for that matter. >> >> bill: so strzok and page will be part of the report tomorrow? >> i can't speak to it until i see it but i think it's important work. the inspector general is well respected and his work product is something everyone needs to see. >> bill: in the meantime there's a push for new documents. there's even a threat of a vote in the house to get that done. i don't know what matter that would make in the end but what do you think the hold up is? >> first of all, i think some productions are working. some are not. i think it's important for the
speaker to intervene. we need to bring the key parties from the department of justice over here and let them know what they haven't produced, make them explain why they haven't produced it and tell them they have to get it to us. we are making progress. also the inspector general's report will help in this regard because they can see some of the things we have and are missing and if there's something missing in his report there'll be a lot of embarrassed faces at the department of justice because we've been asking for everything the inspector general had. >> bill: you said something interesting there at the top. you want paul rand to get more involved in this. do you feel he has not been? >> he has been when he's been needed but from time to time i think it's been important -- i know he's done that with regard to the intelligence committee's investigation and i think it's appropriate he do that with regard to any production of documents asked from any government agency where there's stonewalling the congress. this is the right of the people's representative to have
access to information about government agencies they have oversight of and of course the judiciary committee has oversight of the department of justice and fbi. and when necessary, i think it's important for that to take place. >> bill: last question here. there's a report rob rosenstein threatened members of the committee and the house to subpoena their phone records and e-mails and then we were told through jeff sessions that was a mischaracterization. were you there for that or what is your understanding of that? >> i was not there. i have heard conversations that have taken place about that. it is deeply concerning that instead of having a cooperative relationship with this agency respectful of the importance of the congress having access to documents regarding matters that they are investigating they have oversight responsibility for and this is not the way to conduct that. it's not about getting testy with members of congress. it is about making sure the document properly produced in a
timely fashion so that the congress can do its work. >> bill: sir, i appreciate your type of. i understand the president gets to see this report before it goes public. is tomorrow the big day do you think or not? >> i think it will be a good day for the american people to learn a lot. i don't know exactly what the report contains therefore i don't want to project too much but i think it's an important day. >> bill: thank you for your time. chairman goodlatte from the mill. 20 past the hour. >> sandra: there's been a shooting near the mexican border. what we're learning about the events leading up to the shooting and who may be responsible. but first, a shocking primary loss for long-time politician and vocal trump critic. the tweet the president fired off that may have swayed a primary against congressman mark sanford. >> there is a belief based on people's legitimate frustrations with washington which brought up the trump era to throw out the
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>> sandra: new reaction from president trump this morning after a stunner in north carolina last night. the president endorsing state rep katie arrington against trump critic mark sanford tweeting my representatives didn't want me to get involved but with a few hours left i felt katie was such a candidate and sanford was so bad i had to give it a shot. congrats to katie arrington. jonathan, this is sanford's first electoral defeat in two
decades. what happened here? >> reporter: a surprise to many he's been unafraid to criticize president trump at times he disagreed with the president. his opponent, katie arrington has said he was too critical of the president and resonated. >> we are the party of president donald j. trump. >> reporter: during the final hours of the election president trump tweeted his support for arrington saying mark sanford has been unhelpful in my campaign to make america great again. he's m.i.a. and nothing but trouble. he's better off in argentina. his better off in argentina comment is in reference to an extra maral affair with a woman while serving as governor in south carolina. >> sandra: what was his reaction
to his defeat? >> reporter: during the concession speech he said he accept the will of the people and issued somewhat of a warning saying american politics are at an inflection point and warned people about placing more importance on individual politicians than the institutions of democracy. >> there is a belief based on people's legitimate frustrations with washington which is what brought about the whole trump era that maybe we need to throw out the institutions of washington and start over. to do so would be a grave mistake. >> reporter: sanford's opponent, katie arrington won the gop primary with 50% of the vote. sanford came in with 47%. arrington will face democrat joe cunningham in the november general election. >> sandra: thank you. south carolina state representative katie arrington will join us later on "america's
newsroom" to talk more about her big win in the primary yesterday. stay with us as she joins us at 11:15 a.m. earn -- eastern time. >> bill: also other results from other state primaries. here we go now. nevada's attorney general winning and moody won a term and cory stewart won in virginia. stewart expect to face senator tim cane, hillary clinton's former running mate. president trump tweeting congratulations to the senator from virginia. now he runs against a total stiff, tim cane weak onrime and don't underestimate corey, a chance of winning. chew on that a while.
>> sandra: things are setting up. >> bill: colorful. >> sandra: you can say that. a war of words heating up between the deputy attorney general and the house republicans demanding answers. how rob rosenstein was apparently threatening members of congress. jonathan turley is here with analysis on that. >> bill: and the video that has to be seen to be believed. a small critter going on a big limb. >> sandra: in an unexpected place. >> bill: check it out. ♪ nothing can stop me i'm all the way up ♪ ♪ i'm all the way up i'm all the way up ♪
that we have tried to be cooperative with them. >> sandra: attorney general jeff sessions defending rob rosenstein after e-mails show rosenstein threatened to subpoena republican law makers and their aides. outrage from the right side of the aisle. >> rob rosenstein was threatening members of the house intelligence committee for doing their job and trying to get answers for the american people and the attorney general said that's okay, we're doing just fine. >> for the attorney general to say he's confident that rob rosenstein did everything right. i'm confident he doesn't know what he's talking about. i'm here to tell you, we're fed up with it. >> sandra: jonathan turley say law professor at george washington university. thank you for joining us this morning. >> thank you. >> sandra: some strong response there from the right. what do you make of the reported threat? >> well, i think the threat even
one for a civil subpoena was reckless he shouldn't have done it and is subject to the oversight of the house and senate committees. they have a record of a poor oversight. for those of us who argued for years these committees need to demand documents and not back down, this is a refreshing trend. you can disagree with the merits but they have a right to see it. the allegation of one party used the fbi to investigate the opposing party goes to the heart of our electoral system and governmental system. so there's every reason for the members to want to see these documents. so i think at the end of the day, people need to take a breather here and say you can't have selective transparency or selective investigation. the democrats can't rightfully
call for a conclusion of the russian investigation with full authorities and uninhibited access and then argue to shut down the investigation from the clinton period. i think the public wants to see the facts and they want to see it on both sides. >> sandra: according to one of the house staffers who backed up the original account of this happening, professor, they set it was a sustained attack and called it astonishing and disheartening. certainly so for the american people to find out this may be going on. >> well, i do think this was a serious mistake even as an aside as it's being portrayed by the justice department. first of all, it's not very credible. the question for a court if it ever got to a contempt case is whether congress has a right to the information and whether the department of justice and particularly this official withheld it. there's going to be limited discovery on that point and the
oversight committee has the overwhelming edge. the courts have generally sided with congress on issues of oversight and the scope of these inquiries. >> sandra: can we ask you about this i.g. report where the anticipation is certainly build. we don't know whether or not the president's going get a look at this before it goes public. we just talked to chairman goodlatte and members of congress will get to see it a few hours before it's released and goes public. what's your anticipation for the report and the impact it will have? >> i think the role of james comey is going to be very critical. some of us have been very critical of his role in the past not just in terms of what he did during the clinton campaign but also the remove of fbi documents and the leaking of material to the media after he was terminated by president trump. so this report's going to shed a lot of light here and that's the important thing. i think the american people are
fed up with deciphers on both sides of republicans and democrats giving us second-hand information. the inspector general is a respected individual who is going to give us facts and that's what we need to reach our own conclusion. at the end of the day, i'm still skeptical about there being crimes on either sides of these investigations but what we need, if we're going come together as a country, is for the american people to feel like they've been given facts not just spins and opinions. >> sandra: as far as the logistics of this report now that we're down to the wire and know this is going to be happening in the next 24 hours, professor, what is typical protocol? ordinarily would the president be shown an i.g. report prior to its public release? >> no, it's not common for the president to be shown the report. it sounds like there will be some accommodation and briefing. the members of congress normally get the report a few hours
before it's released as a courtesy and then the inspector general will make this available to the public. mr. horowitz has done, i think, an outstanding job. he's right down the middle and has been hard looking at these issues. he referred mccabe, the former deputy attorney attorney general, for possible prosecution for false statements. he has a lot of credibility in going at these issues. >> sandra: as far as the scope of the report should we expect it to be narrow when it comes to the hillary clinton e-mail investigation? some believe it will be wider ranging. what are your expectations as far as what specifically it will cover? >> that's the big unknown. a lot of us are wondering whether the i.g. will use this report to get into some of the e-mails from individuals at the justice department who previously were identified as having anti-trump views and how that might have affected the
judgment. there's also a question of the scope of their duties that is how much were these individuals who were previously moved aside, how much were they involved in the decisions that were critical for the clinton campaign and hillary clinton personally. >> sandra: and quickly, professor, once this report is completed, horowitz hand this over for the public release, first congress and possibly the president, can anything then be changed before the american public gets to see it? >> i suppose technically anything can be changed but it's exceptionally unlikely. once eyes have hit the report i think all parties know any change would create a fire storm and it's for the public, most importantly, to see it. >> sandra: great stuff. professor turley thank you for your time. i hope you come back. >> bill: a judge now clearing an $85 billion deal, at&t will buy
time warner. a mega merger against the leg challenge of the justice department. christina partsinevelos has the story. how are you doing? >> i'm doing great. let's break down the defeat of the justice department. the justice department argued at&t couldn't buy time warner because that would result in less competition in the market and higher prices for consumers. people look to at&t as a telephone provider and they provide a wireless service as well as content but at&t said they need to compete against the likes of netflix. they need more content which is why they went after time warner they operate cnn, cartoon network and they're positioning themselves as a way to compete against netflix and hulu and
amazon and it's a way to compete. at&t, the deal has been going on quite some time but the ruling came through yesterday afternoon. >> bill: what do you think of the effect of consumers and how it changes the media landscape. what would we notice that would be different as a result? >> lots of questions there. first the change in the media landscape. a lot of media houses are sitting on the sidelines watching this case like comcast because they're potentially going to put in a deal to buy 21st century fox the parent company of fox news and pushing out disney. they're waiting to see, maybe we can do the same thing and it's not just 21st century fox but cbs and viacom or verizon saying we need to compete and we'll see if we can buy cbs ourselves. there could be a consolidation in the market which would mean bigger players than smaller players. we're seeing the media stocks
all climbing higher. you're seeing 21st century fox up over 7%. time warner up 4% and cbs up 4% and you asked how will consumers be affected. the argument is that maybe we'll have to pay higher prices in the long term because these companies will have such domination over the markets but if you believe in free market, that won't be the case and maybe just more innovation. >> bill: good stuff. say the last name, christina. >> it's partsinevelos. >> sandra: i tried to tell him. you say the "t." >> yes. >> sandra: great to have you on. >> bill: there's been a movement of the stock and disney's been on this. you can get a challenge from com cost and there could -- comcast
and there could be other suitors. it's partsinevelos. >> sandra: great reporter. meanwhile, mike pompeo picking up on key north korea nuclear talks and ed royce is here to react next. >> we get along better than i would have assumed right from the beginning. we got more done today than i ever thought possible and he's going now headed back and i think he's going back to get this done. he wants to get it done.
>> bill: so that is president trump with sean hannity some words praising kim jong-un and mike pompeo is back in south korea meeting with his counterpart. ed royce, chairman of the house foreign affairs committee. this must have been interesting to watch from afar. good morning to you. >> good morning, bill. it is interesting, indeed. >> bill: what is next? >> what is next, i think, is the whole point. the administration deserves credit for getting us to this point because what they have done is to scrap president obama's failed policy of strategic patience and replaced it with the maximum pressure effort on sanctions and what is critical here is we not lift any of those sanctions until we have a complete, verifiable
denuclearization. >> bill: isn't that where we are now? >> it appears to be the context of the agreement. the question is how do we keep the pressure not just in terms of our sanctions in place but how do we keep that pressure on that leftist-leaning government now in south korea to make certain it doesn't let up on the pressure. how do we make sure beijing follows through on continued sanctions because the sanctions are the only thing that got him to table. >> bill: you raised great questions. how do we answer them? >> i think that's going to require hard work by the administration and us in congress. the sanctions legislation was my bill. we have to make absolutely certain that in no part of this agreement do we let up on the pressure. and that's where mike pompeo, secretary of state, his important work starts today.
and we just have to double down on this approach of not giving ann -- any relief. we have to remember this dynasty has cheated on every prior agreement. >> bill: here's sean hannity with more. >> one of the things i'm happy about is we're not going play the war games any more which is very expensive bringing in bombers from guam. i said how far is guam, six and a half hours, sir. i said that's a lot of time for a big bomber times 20 and other planes. we're not going to be doing the war games as long as we're negotiating in good faith. >> bill: are you okay with that? >> the defense exercises are important in terms of credible deterrents on the peninsula because the past aggression of north korea. i'm waiting to be briefed by the administration on the
preparedness. i think it's very important we do keep an eye to deterrents in this. >> bill: let me just share quickly some of the deals in the communique. we'll call it that, okay? the established communication for peace and build a regime of peace in the korean peninsula. that's what they want, no nuke on the peninsula, complete to work towards complete denuclearization and recovery of american remains from the korean war. those are some of the bullet points. are you okay with that? >> what congress will want to see before we give an ounce of relief to north korea is the inspectors on the ground, not just the deneuclearization and o to any facility and verify we had irreversible removal of --
>> bill: it's a big job. >> bill: sir, thank you for coming on. ed royce, chairman on the hill. >> sandra: now to this pressing news of the morning. a raccoon becomes an internet sensation capturing fans around the world for scaling a skyscraper. how high it got before it got rescued. people could not stop watching this little critter.
>> bill: crowds gathering yesterday, downtown st. paul. a raccoon, must have been a slow day. first spotted hanging out on the ledge of an office building and got to a nearby tower and started going higher. 20 stories up. >> sandra: that's crazy. >> bill: and if you worked in the office you got a nice picture and of course it went viral because everything does. >> sandra: how was he going get back down? >> bill: what do we call that? rocky? >> sandra: new developments in arizona on the mexican border. a u.s. patrol agent shot in an area known for trafficking and smuggling. where did this happen? >> reporter: it happened on a family ranch close to the border south of tucson. it was around 4:30 in the morning yesterday near the town of idivaca, there are very few
details. the border patrol released a saying the agent was transported to a hospital and the family has worked the property for five generations and said something like this was bound to happen sooner or later. his property is right along the border. >> there's no wall at the boundary. just a barbed-wire cattle fence for 25 miles. >> reporter: chilton is a well-known backer of the plan to build a wall. the agent was shot in the leg and hand and was also struck multiple times in his protective vest. u.s. customs and border protection, which oversees the border patrol, said there's hundreds of reports of assaults but few shootings and the border patrol said the investigation is
ongoing and hopefully we'll learn more in an hour when the border patrol will hold a news conference at 11:00 a.m. eastern. >> sandra: thank you. >> bill: and to the north korean agreement and our headliner, senator marco rubbio will join us and will be joined by our a-team on the report coming out tomorrow. come back on that.
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>> sandra: we are await news conference with house republican leadership where we expect questions on our top stories of the morning likely to include the threats to the house intel committee, immigration and north korea. >> bill: a brand new hour, sandra. good morning. we haven't changed. the historic summit is over. where do we go from here? it looks like the next battle will be fought in the halls of congress. >> sandra: president trump back in washington and he's already tweeting about north korea. >> the story unhold -- unfolding is what happens now. >> after five hours of talks the two leaders agreed to quote, complete deneuclearization of te
korean peninsula. >> we'll stop the war games but this is complete denuclearization. >> the president's doubt the new relationship will ever pay off. >> north korea have made commitments in the past they have not followed. >> kim jong-un is a butcher. working with him is like trying to hand-feed a shark. >> president trump seems to have given away a couple things kim jong-un wanted without anything in return. >> bill: and now a potential treaty to seal the deal. >> the president can reach a significant agreement with the north koreans i hope it take the form of a treaty. >> sandra: so what is next for congress? let's go to our headliner, senator center marco rubio joins us. we're a couple days out from the meeting and vig -- trying to see where this ultimately goes
with kim jong-un. have showed some skepticism. what are your concerns? >> we're skeptical of kim jong-un and everybody should be. the president is optimistic and needs to be. he's the guy negotiating and needs to feel like the other side feel he's serious about getting it done but for the rest of us watching and know the history we should be skeptical. this is a country that's made promises before and broken them. these are nuclear weapons and ballistic weapons capable of reaching the united states. we have to trust but verify. the trust part is important but the verify part is more important with north korean than anybody else. >> bill: do you think on the sanctions china is already starting to go lighter. do you have evidence of that? >> i can't say i have evidence of it. i think china will push for relaxation and point to the meeting and argue to the international community and that
now's the time to lighten sanctions. they'll want to have a long, drawn-out negotiations where there's reciprocal step-by-step negotiations. the longer it goes the -- the worse case for china is a quick deal where the u.s. gains influence over north korea and they don't want the united states having more influence than they do. the more they can draw it out and the more concessions they can make america agree to the more influence they'll have over kim jong-un and likely to be invited to talks. >> sandra: there was a meeting yesterday with your colleagues, gop senators and the president called in. what was the discussion there? what did you hear from the president? >> well, flying back so it's been a long couple days for him but he was excited and optimistic. he feels positive and look, that's his job.
he's negotiating. you don't go into negotiation and act negative. his job is to be positive and try to coax this guy into agreeing to things he's never done before. the rest of us, our job is to be clear-eyed and i hope i wake up and realize this is the beginning of something very different and north korea will abandon its nuclear weapons and ballistic weapons and will become a normal country and i pray that happens. if it does, i'll be as happy as anybody out there. >> sandra: you've been very clear on the role you believe congress needs to play on any deal and how we move forward with north korea. does there need to be a vote on a deal with north korea? >> see, this is not one of those times where congress is saying we want to weigh in because we want to feel important. without the -- the reason -- one of the reasons the iran deal was so bad and unenforceable was it
wasn't a treaty but a political agreement barack obama signed on to and instead of bringing it to congress he had it ratified by the united nations and when they say you're violating international law we say you must not have read our constitution. if we want a deal with north korea to be enforceable it's good for north korea to go to congress because then it's a binding treaty. >> bill: they need a lock-tight case to bring this to congress then. whether it's you or somebody else, you'll go at this thing? >> that's true of any treaty involving things of this magnitude. we've done things before with the old soviet union and russian federation now but this is different. this is a strange person with kim jong-un. he's a weirdo and the government is strange and weird. things have to be different here but the verification part will be very important. look, this is just the beginning.
there was a meeting. they got to know each other. it's the kickoff of it but this is not the deal. >> bill: you said we'll know in two years. >> i'm saying is if in two years north korea still has nuclear weapons it will be judged for that and saying we tried and it didn't work and here come the sanctions heavier than ever. i'm not saying we should wait two years but two years we'll be able to look back and make judgments. i don't think we should make judgment twos days after the meeting because i don't think that meeting's purpose was to strike a deal. it's the beginning of a longer conversation. >> sandra: it's interesting, senator, because you've been tweeting a lot in the past 24 hours and some have looked at your tweets as not only as criticism of kim jong-un but as criticism of the president and you just called kim jong-un a weirdo and wouldn't be an assistant dog catcher in any
democracy and sean hannity had the president and he said he appeared funny and smart. would you clarify? >> there's nothing to clarify. the president was democratically elect will by the people and in two and a half years people will have a chance to vote for him and kim jong-un has never been elect to anything. he inherited a dictatorship and murdered people and put people in death camps and deep suffering of the people and has nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles and kills people abroad including his brother and others. on top of that, there's a whole cult they've created. their government is a cult that's become almost religious like. it's a very strange and weird place. it is what it is and i won't ignore that reality. that's just a fact. these are not things i'm making up. they're real. >> bill: one minute, two topics.
quickly, the i.g. report tomorrow. what is your expectation on that? >> we'll wait and see. i don't have any expectations other than it be fair and real and true and get to the facts and we judge it based on those facts. my hope is it's been througho and -- thorough and true and hopefully outline how all this was handled. >> sandra: meanwhile, you have strong feelings on the chinese telecom companies and the threat they pose to us at home. tweeted this, now is a good time to get rid of our wewei investment because it's 100 times worse, hash tag, next. what is your warning there? >> my warning is huawei should not be in in the united states. anywhere huawei is you can bet the chinese embedded backdoors to steal secrets from
transportation grids and we invite the trojan horse into the united states. we need to kick the trojan horse out. this is a big problem. they should not be benefit from u.s. technology. huawei is a hundred times worse. >> sandra: thank you for joining us for day three on our new studio. thank you, senator rubio. >> bill: while that interview, we taped that last hour, the wall street journal is saying it will block language the dte deal. you're big point with senator rubio is well taken. his point is the chinese are spying on us and they're doing it through technology and we need to do something about it. >> sandra: you can tell he feels passionately about that. we'll see where it goes. >> bill: and we're inside the
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>> bill: you should see what the commercials are like out here. get a handle on that. what will the watchdog probing agency bring us about the report tomorrow. jason chaffetz and bri harth. welcome, guys. are you comfortable? >> like the new studio. >> bill: will we get tomorrow at 12:00 noon? >> i think republicans and democrats will look at this and say we were wronged by the fbi and they deviate from protocol. the inspector general did not take 18 months and write a 400 to 500 page report because everything went well.
both sides will be highly critical but it will get us closer to the truth than before. i think both will be very upset. >> this is just focussed on the hillary clinton e-mail investigation though, right? i think for some people think this will look at the other controversies we've been talking about doj or the fbi whether it's russia or phi -- fisa, this is linked to the hillary clinton investigation which is one of the reasons president trump said he fired james comey. i have no idea what's in it. i would be curious to read it and it will be interesting to see how everyone reacts. >> it will be. chairman bob goodlatte has been clear. he feels there were crimes committed by the fbi and doj. i'll be looking to see if there's criminal referrals. it will be very interesting. we know jim comey made the
decision that should have been left to the doj. was there criminality. >> sandra: that's going to be the big question. we get to the report and what are the recommendations of the inspector general. what can you tell us? will there be accountability for actions to come from this? >> the inspector general already made a criminal referral on mr. mccabe and james comey legal jeopardy becomes greater because you'll see the precursers as they look into other investigations into fisa abuse and the releasing of classified information. james comey, it appears, did exactly what hillary clinton was accused of doing and gave classified information and gave i am to -- it to people without the proper security clearance. that will be fascinating. you have to understand the inspector general will not criticize the decision to
prosecutor not prosecute. they won't look at should they have given out the immunity agreement and they'll they are lei the foundation on what they did and didn't do. >> bill: this is hillary clinton and james comey not the fisa matter. >> or russia. >> bill: you mentioned bob goodlatte. he was with us last hour and is knee-deep in all this. what he said he's looking for is to figure out which names and characters crossed both investigations and he mentioned lisa page and peter strzok. listen to what the tail end of what he says in the statement. >> i think it's going to shed light on how the federal bureau of investigation mishandled the whole investigation with regard to former secretary of state and
former presidential candidate, hillary clinton. and when you contrast that with the way they handled the so-called trump/russia collusion, no evidence for which i have yet seen, i think people will be astonished there with us this kind of bias in the federal bureau of investigation. >> bill: that's a loaded statement. >> and it's a very aggressive accusation before we have seen what's in the report. i'm hoping people on both sides of the aisle can read it and focus on the facts and what we know and not jump to assertions not proven and it will be interesting to see how president trump responds. i believe he'll be tweeting about it and get out and claim the fbi's bias against him that's an allegation people take seriously. we have to be careful when we see accusations.
>> bill: get in front of the president now. >> there are fact undergurd the accusations and peter strzok interviewed hilary for the e-mail situation. we know he had text with lisa page and wanted an insurance policy and had very -- verifiable facts he was against the president. >> we have evidence it empacted his work. >> tomorrow we'll find out and there's real questions why hillary clinton was given treatment and president trump was targeted. >> sandra: meanwhile, north korea, senator rand paul was on with us earlier and was sounding very hopeful about the idea of denuclearization. listen. >> i'm very hopeful and if it comes to fruition, if we
actually get denuclearization, president trump will have done something miraculous. something historic. we're still in the very beginning so just the fact north korea signs an agreement doesn't mean they'll adhere but i'm hopeful. >> i think senator paul is exactly right and i think the world is a safer place this week than last week. i think it's good the two leaders are talking. by no means are they a threat long term but i think the president was masterful in negotiating and bringing kim jong-un to the table. >> bill: newt gingrich wrote a piece, trump has accomplished more than clinton, bush and obama combined and this is just the beginning. it's the last line in a piece he wrote, two and a half pages long. >> i don't agree with that assessment. on north korea specifically, north korea has not agreed to anything yet they haven't done before. there's no new concessions made.
i think it's too soon to say we're safer or more secure. >> sandra: he did do something new he sat down with a u.s. president. >> but a meeting doesn't equal policy. we'll be looking for the devil in the details which is always the case. if there's real substantive conversations that actually include north korean concessions i think all americans will support that. we don't have that yet. it's not yet a win for the president. >> it's a big win for the president. for 27 years presidents have tried to deal with the north korean nuclear threat. in three months -- we know the meeting was announced march 8, we've seen the release of three u.s. hostages the destruction of a nuclear site and an agreement written they want to denuclearize. president trump is a great negotiator. >> they've made all those commitments before and they're
not actions just words. >> the release of hostages -- this is much different. >> bill: do you have a problem with him meeting with chairman kim. >> i don't. >> you don't negotiate with your friends but enemies. i'm more concerned about the substance of the meetings and the language president trump used to butter-up kim jong-un and gave him legitimacy at home. >> bill: going from rocket man -- >> and said nice things about kim jong-un. >> bill: we all know it can change in one tweet. >> sandra: here's the president talking about the rhetoric he said is what brought kim jong-un to the table in the first place. >> without the rhetoric we wouldn't have been here. i really believe that. we did sanctions and all the things that you would do, but i think without the rhetoric -- other administrations i don't want to get specific on that but they had a policy of silence.
if they said something very bad and very threatening and horrible, just don't answer. that's not the answer. that's not what you have to do. so i think the rhetoric -- i hate to do it, but sometimes i felt foolish doing it but we had no choice. >> sandra: i hear you laughing, marie, because he's referencing back to the administration for which you work that didn't get kim to the table. >> democratic and republican administrations have failed with north korea. i like the idea of trying something new and i like the idea of sitting down diplomatically. i'm a little concerned that president trump being so praiseful of a dictator who killed an american this year -- and if barack obama had said those things about kim jong-un, you and your colleagues would have been through the roof. >> i supported president obama and what he did in cuba. i was consistent on those things. when kim jong-un is moving in the right direction it's tock
pat -- to pat him on the back and when they're doing things in the best interest of the united states i can see why president trump would pat him on the back and keep him going in the write direction and if he gets out of line you have the economic and military force of the united states of america -- >> and twitter. >> and president trump is always negotiating and winning for the united states. >> sandra: and the parents of otto warmbier said they support the president and credited otto's death with us getting to this point and he deserves praise and we remember him. >> bill: a senator from ohio was working for a year and a half to bring him home. he'll be our guest next hour. stand by, a-team. >> sandra: you're fired up. stay that way because we're bring ug -- -- bringing you back. >> shannon: why a tweet from the president may have spark the stunner in south carolina last night. >> we're the party of president
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super poligrip, helping you enjoy the foods you love. >> bill: president trump congratulating katie arrington for the surprise victory in the south carolina primary last night. here's the tweet, my political representatives didn't want me to get involved thinking sanford would easily win but i feel katie was such a good candidate and sanford was so bad i had to give it a shot. congrats to katie arrington the winner of congressional district 1. beautiful country. back with our a-team. trump effect. >> 50/50 and trump pushed it over the edge. i think he'll get full credit for making the difference. and mark sanford's a very likable person and never lost it
before and he's taken weird stances -- >> better off in argentina. >> i can't defend him on those things and he made some serious weird allegations against donald trump. >> bill: this is your basket. what do you think? >> we've seen an undeniable trend, the closer you get to president trump the more likely you are to prevail. we saw this in the west virginia race and with connor lamb in pennsylvania who denounced nancy pelosi and said i support donald trump. he said he'd work with him and was cozier to him. >> sandra: what message does the outcome of last night raise. what message does it send to the democrat? >> it's what it sends to republicans. mark sanford is very conservative. he's not someone democrats look to as a pick up vote. he vote with the president
almost 90% of the time but when someone goes after the president personally, he hits back. my party has tried to call on republicans when they disagree with the president to speak out -- >> and they were so good at that with president obama. lead by example there. >> it tells republicans there's a real political cost to doing that and even for someone who votes with the president and is conservative and it's interesting to see how mark sanford said this is the first election where i was not attacked on issues but allegiance and if we nominate independent candidates who can pick up suburban women and if we don't run far to the left or get closer to the middle, we can pick up more seats. >> but you are running further to the left. in nebraska a district that is
republican he's a radical liberal and she's winning. we're seeing this across the country berniesque candidates winning. >> i love that you said if democrats nominate independents. that is not going to -- >> if they nominate more moderate candidates in michigan and ohio. we have candidates who have served in the military and intelligence industry -- >> bil >> what are the democrats running on other than we don't like donald trump? if you put nancy pelosi and chuck schumer in charge that's not where the country wants to be. >> bill: the economy's good and north korea's stable. what do you think is the strongest silver line you can
paint for the gop right now for november. >> as a former democrat -- >> bill: no, as you look at the results of the primaries. is it california. >> in california seven districts republican-held democrats are trying to flip. six of the seven districts republican turnout exceeded and if have you republicans showing up and enthusiasm is up and the economy is up and the republican vote is showing up. >> bill: marie, what case would you paint for the best silver lining? >> despite the economic news the generic ballot has the democrats back up to almost double digits leading in a generic ballot and historically every trend points to democratic pick up and despite the economy is doing well, there are voters around the country saying over and over again in poll they want a check on the president and a check on
the republican party and the democratic party i think in districts around the country is running candidates in the district, period. >> sandra: we have to move on to this other topic real quick. the president responded to robert de niro talking about the economy and as you know, hollywood is showing their distaste for the president and robert de niro has words for the president and the president tweeted back. robe robert de niro has received too many shots to the head by real boxers. i watched him last night and believe he may be punch drunk. i guess he doesn't realize the economy is the best it's ever been being at an all-time high and many companies pouring back in the country. wake up, punchy! >> you can't read that tweet and just smile. first, i didn't know anyone watched the tony wards but
nevertheless, come on, every time a hollywood elite does one of these things, i think it fires up middle america. i don't think they like this attitude and cavalier hollywood-first approach. >> sandra: they don't like the language. >> it's offensive to people and ultimately helps republicans. >> bill: de niro has been talking about this for a year and a half. >> the viewership at the tonys was up this year, i will point out to jason. but i don't think de niro helps the democratic side with the la language and divisive and i think it's used by republicans just as jason said to look, your party's out of touch. >> sandra: it didn't have the effect they wanted on the last presidential election. >> at the congressional level these candidates are not
embracing hollywood but their districts. for 2020 the national party needs to figure out how they're going to bring together the left in hollywood and middle of the country but for the midterms i think the national party is doing its own thing and candidates district by district are fighting differently. >> the dnc is turning to hollywood to get their messaging. how out of touch can you be do you think the blue collar worker that showed up to to vote do you think the elitism and the snobby line of punchy will dissway them. not in the slightest. >> bill: the organizers of the tonys knew what they were getting. maybe, maybe not that far but they knew where it could
possibly go. >> and people are allowed to have political opinions and allowed to turn their tv off. >> it's a more liberal crowd that tends to watch these events and you can turn it off if you want. >> when you use your sport and celebrity to talk about politics i think people get offended. >> sandra: talking about the race in south carolina and the stunning turn out and take it to this hollywood moment and the popularity of the president and how that's going to play out, as it is now, middle of june and we're heading towards the fall quickly. >> i think the president is so much more popular than anyone on the coast gives him credit for. you go out to the heartland and talk about this president they love the president and love the economy and trust him though his style is unconventional they elected a disruptive president
and he's delivering. >> bill: they don't talk much about russia outside of new york city and washington, d.c. >> this president's approval rating has the highest own-party approval rating of any republican outside of bush and 9/11. there's so much enthusiasm and middle america love him. >> and he needed wins in pennsylvania and -- >> you can't ignore the data now because they were wrong once. independent numbers are moving away from the president. you can't win elections with just a base. you need more. >> sandra: did you like this? >> we can do it all day. >> thank you. >> we'll go to commercial. thank you very much. >> sandra: could the federal reserve pour cold water on this red hot economy? what to look for as we await
everyone's anxious on wall street because the federal reserve will raise interest rates -- >> bill: will? >> they will, no doubt about it. here's the good thing about it. they're only doing it because the economy is growing so fast right now and they want to tap the brakes. i have no problem with that as long as that's why they do it. in the past it's not always been the case. i think wall street so far doesn't have a problem with it but there's going to be a huge, huge conference after the meeting is over and -- >> sandra: it takes me back to my trading days, charles. now what you're telling me is we've got jeff to a point where the -- gotten to a point they are showing optimism in the u.s. economy so how do you balance that out. the markets can't get a read on it. we're an hour into trading and they're doing nothing. >> but they've done a lot in the last three or four hours. they've been on a tear and there
have been record highs. we've made huge gains. the market has been anticipating and they have a new person in charge and the betting is that this guy's on from a huge, powerful firm on wall street and let's talk about what's happening. yesterday we had a small business report out. the second highest number in history. for instance, expansion plans -- the most robust in history. i'll saying, please, federal reserve don't snuff that out yet, let it grow and get to the point where everybody in the country is enjoying this kind of growth. >> bill: we're cooking with gas. a quarter point you believe watch the language in summary. california is apparently too big for itself. what is the idea about dividing
california into three? >> there's a lot of ideas behind it. we should let the audience know, there's been 200 attempts to split california up. the most recent passed and will be on the ballot in november. i'm worried about this. it would break california up into three separate states. california, northern california and south california. what makes me anxious is donald trump lost in all three of these configurations. in california he lost 46%. we're talking about potentially four more democratic senators and would tip the balance in washington where we couldn't divide a government anymore. >> sandra: let's look at how we're looking at california being potentially broken up, north california and south california and a gold coast which would be the los angeles area as far as the geographics are concerned.
>> there's been so many plans. you go back to president jefferson and his idea is you guys go out there and form an independent country. this idea's been lingering a long time and this plan, by the way, be proposed by a guy named tim draper an eccentric billionaire and said bitcoin will go to $250,000 per coin. . up $5 milln for this to go through and put up a proposal for six states. we know california's bifurcated but i think it's intriguing people are really considering this in a lot of states. it's not just happening in states but countries. >> sandra: californians are talking about leaving. >> a million have left in the last few years. the taxes.
cup will come to america. the president tweeting the u.s. together with mexico and canada just got the world cup. a great deal of hard work. that's cool. here's the 24/7 crew. welcome, guys. you guys are actually friends. [laughter] >> oh, no, the cat's out of the bag. >> outside of work we hang out. >> we're like an odd rock band, we get along. >> we do spend a lot of time together at work on the show on sirius xm. little plug. >> bill: world cup coming here and toronto and mexico. >> it's a big time for fox leadi leading into the u.s. open and u.s. figured to get in 2022 it went to qatar and as a result of
that we have all these corruption and bribery scandals so u.s. easily beats out morocco and we have 60 of 80 matches in the united states and the others north and south and we'll do well because everybody is already in place and lots of money to be made. >> i want to talk about the money aspect. it's not good for a developing nation to host the world cup because then these countries are force to build these million dollar stadiums nobody uses afterwards. it's not a problem with the u.s. hosting the world cup because we already have the stadiums and the infrastructure and hotels and public transportation but the number one reason team usand cada and mexico won this bid is because they promised fifa $11 billion. staggering. >> that's aisle -- a lot of
money. >> the fifa video games is huge. like the biggest selling sports video game around the world which comes as no surprise. and i'm curious to see in 2026, how are we going to be watching these games. right now we watch them on tv or phones but it's all changing so drastically, eight years from now you can imagine there'll be interesting ways to view this. >> bill: mls is growing in the u.s. -- >> and he touched on kids playing video game 4 million kids play soccer and the man response in for getting the votes together that soccer is the sport of choice for the dis disenfranchised and kids can say why can't i play in the world cup and he thinks that can grow to 12 million. >> that is a perk of this. the first thing i thought when i
heard of the announcement is the traffic is going to be a nightmare. i know it's a cynical view but all the tourism will be great for the economy, terrible for the commute. >> airbnb. >> sandra: the last time north america hosted a men's world cup -- >> 1994. this is the first time three countries that are involved. >> and three countries going throhn interesting political time with the tariff debate and border debate and both the president and justin trudeau tweeded they're happy this is happening. >> sports is where you go went you want to get away from politics so maybe this will bring everybody back to the table. >> bill: you three go back to hating each other [laughter] thank you. >> sandra: thank you very much. well, the war of words turns ugly as attorney general rod rece -- rosenstein plays hard
>> sandra: top of the hour and there is new fallout after word the deputy attorney general threatened to turn the tables on house republicans in the russia investigation, using subpoena power to go after their records. welcome to a brand new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm sandra smith. >> bill: i'm bill hemmer. good morning. hour three right now.
fox news learning about the subpoena threat after reviewing e-mails that documented a closed door meeting in january. that meeting with rod rosenstein, the f.b.i. director, and members of the house intelligence committee was described as "tense." apparently as reported the deputy a.g. was critical of the committee's request for more documents before launching into an attack and threatening to subpoena committee members calls and e-mails. >> it is deeply concerning that instead of having a cooperative relationship with this agency, respectful of the importance of the congress, having access to documents regarding matters that they are investigating, that they have oversight responsibility for. this is not the way to conduct that. >> bill: chairman goodlatte from two hours ago. catherine herridge with us now. how are you? good morning. the d.o.j. has a different take on this. the e-mails, do they put in question the deputy a.g. actions? >> good morning. the e-mails viewed by fox news were sent to the house office
of general counsel to document the january meeting that included the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein, f.b.i. director christopher wray, the senior advisers as well as the republican house intelligence committee chairman devin nunes and his senior staff. the account is that rosenstein threatened to turn the table on the committee regarding the russia probe. rod rosenstein criticized the committee for sending the request in writing and was further critical of the committee's request to have d.o.j., f.b.i., do the same when responding. they went so far to say if the committee likes being it will gators, we, the justice, department are also litigators and we will subpoena your record and your e-mails, referring to the house committee and congress overall. the e-mails reviewed by fox news indicated a second staffer at the meeting backed up the account writing let me add watching the deputy attorney general launch sustained personal staff against staffer in retaliation for vigorous oversight was astonishing and disheartening. also having the number one for
the matter, the law enforcement officer threaten to subpoena your call and e-mail was chilling. in a statement, chairman nunes said they took the staff concerns seriously and referred the matter to the speaker's office. the source close to speaker they encouraged the committee to work through the inspector general where the complaints are filed. >> bill: get to the other side. what does the f.b.i. and the justice department say about this? >> they both dispute the characterization. justice department official told fox news that rosenstein never threatened a criminal investigation. writing the deputy attorney general was making the point after being threatened with contempt that as an american citizen charged with the offense of contempt of congress he would have the right to defend himself. including the requesting production of the relevant e-mail and text messages and calling them as witnesses to demonstrate the allegations are false. on "tucker carlson" last night, the attorney general not at the january meeting said he backed up rosenstein's account. >> i'm confident that deputy
rosenstein, 28 years in the department of justice did not improperly threaten anyone on that occasion. but we do believe that we have tried to be cooperative with them. >> the department official also said rosenstein will request that the house general counsel conduct an internal investigation of the congressional staffers. with the separation of powers law professor jonathan turley told fox this morning that rosenstein can make the request but he cannot demand an investigation. bill? >> bill: okay. on another matter now, andrew mccabe, the former deputy f.b.i. director, he is making headlines against his former employer. what is his case? >> well, bill, according to these court filings obtained by fox news, lawyers for the fired deputy director andrew mccabe are suing the f.b.i. and the justice department for records about his termination. mccabe's lawyers claim the justice department denied access to the records. mccabe's team wants to clear his name as he faces a
possible criminal prosecution whether he lied to the federal investigators about his contacts with the media in october of 2016 right before the presidential election. the suit also names the office of the justice department inspector general. and tomorrow inspector general michael e. horowitz will deliver his report on the f.b.i. and justice department handling of the clinton e-mail case. it is important to note for context that was the same investigation by horowitz that uncovered the evidence that led to mccabe's firing. bill? >> bill: thank you. busy day tomorrow. >> you're welcome. >> bill: in washington. >> you bet. >> sandra: for more bring in byron york. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> sandra: good morning. what should this tell us about the relations between the -- the current relations between the house and the justice department? >> it tells you they are really, really bad. this is the best evidence that we have had yet of the total breakdown of the relations between the justice department and some of the committees in the house.
as catherine herridge mentioned the justice department said rosenstein did not threaten criminal prosecution but it's clear by their own admission he told members of the house or staff of the house that they ought to preserve their e-mails. they ought to preserve their texts because he is coming after them if he has to defend himself in a contempt of congress proceeding. so the relations between the two are really, really bad. >> sandra: you know, the staffers talking about this threat by rod rosenstein to subpoena the g.o.p.-led house committee are describing it as a form of a personal attack on the part of rosenstein. we had jonathan turley, a law professor on with us earlier. here is his reaction to the threat. >> i think a threat even one for a civil subpoena is reckless. he shouldn't have done it. he is subject to the oversight of the house and the senate committees. the committees have a history of rather poor oversight. for those of us who have argued for years that the
committees need to exercise real oversight, demand documents and not back down, this is actually refreshing trend. >> sandra: do you agree with that? >> yeah, that is actually true. generally when you have the house that controls congress, if it's the same party, the party of the white house, you don't have a lot of oversight. i think if we are talking about all of this yelling back and forth and the arguing back and forth we do tend to lose sight of the actual fundamental issue, which is the house has subpoenaed these documents. the justice department has not turned them over. if you talk to members of the house, they will say well, yeah, we need to pursue, if rosenstein threatened we need to pursue that. what we need are the documents. we don't want another meeting. we want the documents. and that is the fundamental conflict under this. it's still not resolved. >> sandra: you are hinting at this frustration at the house coming from the house. when it comes to the justice
department. and these constant meetings that we hear reported about. we heard from jeff sessions. as far as getting response from the d.o.j., byron. what is the house position on this? >> well, the house position is turn over the documents. just last week the speaker ryan said that the justice department should turn over the documents. there is talk among members now of trying to pass some sort of sense of the house resolution to get the entire house on board for the position that the justice department should turn over the documents. in that sense, it is just a very, very simple matter. the house has subpoenaed the documents. the justice department will not turn them over. they keep wanting to have more meetings. they have a meeting tomorrow with the gang of eight, the highest level of intelligence officials in the house. and the heads of the two
intelligence committees. >> sandra: i have to ask about andrew mccabe. the irony. he is going to court and suing to have the documents turned over from the justice department. >> it's hard not to chuckle about that. could anything be more ironic than the former f.b.i. official to try to get documents out of the f.b.i.? several months ago in the late summer and the fall of last year when the house was trying to get documents from the f.b.i. about the trump dossier, the f.b.i. with andrew mccabe still on board was completely stonewalling them. so much that the speaker of the house had to come out and accuse the f.b.i. of stone walling. this is pretty amusing i guess for some members of the house. >> sandra: for just a second until you think about the bigger picture there. thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> bill: the president back at the white house returning
home before daybreak from singapore and now he turns to congress where he will have to ease concern of a lot of lawmakers. senator marco rubio was with us live a short time ago and he said this about singapore. >> i'm skeptical of kim jong un. we should be. everyone should be. the president is optimistic and he needs to be. he is the guy negotiating. he needs to make the other side feel like he is serious about getting something done. for the rest of us who are watching and know the history of north korea, we should be skeptical. this country made promises before and has broken them. >> bill: kevin corke joins us from the white house. good morning, there. >> kevin: good morning. >> bill: west wing is a little more crowded today. what is the white house saying about the heavy skepticism on some on capitol hill about what went down? >> kevin: frankly, bill, they expected it. they anticipate they will get more but they are did fast in the -- steadfast in the belief that the meeting was the beginning of historic change. the president went to twitter to talk about what he believes is happening. before taking office people
assumed we were going to war with north korea. president obama said north korea was the biggest and most dangerous problem. no longer. sleep well tonight. that was several hours ago. before the arrival to joint base andrews this morning the president told fox news the north is taking steps in the right direction and so are we. >> president trump: we made a lot of progress. tremendous amount of progress. one thing i'm happy about, we are not playing war games anymore. do you know how expensive that is? bringing bombers in for practice from guam. how far is guam? 6 1/2 hours. that is a long way for a big bomber times 20. and other planes that are coming in. we are not doing war games as long as we negotiate in good faith. >> kevin: that is the key. "in good faith." but at the top there is fierce debate why kim jong un is really at the bargaining table and at what cost.
>> president trump seems to have given away two or three things of what kim jong un wanted. meeting. flags next to each other. now no delay of exercises with south korea. without getting anything in return. >> they wouldn't talk to trump unless they believed he was serious about using military force. president trump has done more than every president in 30 years. >> kevin: senator lindsey graham there. clearly a debate topic that will take care of steam in days and months to come. >> bill: what is the white house saying about what we hear from the member of congress? republican and democrats, kevin. >> kevin: the idea they want to consult with congress is important. not necessarily to walk them through every step of the process but this is important because the white house understands unlike what happened with the iran nuclear deal where congress felt they were shut out by the
executive. this type they want to engage -- this time they want to engage them fully. kellyanne conway. >> at least he is going to bother to consult with congress unlike the one-sided iran deal where he got very little in return. i think president obama didn't have the courage to bring that to the congress. >> kevin: engagement is the key, bill. he will consult with the members of the congress and make sure they understand the strategy of the white house and also that they offer direction and advice and consent. >> bill: thank you, kevin. a busy day at the white house. breaking news now. >> sandra: mike pompeo the secretary of state putting out a firm message saying that the u.s. wants north korea to take major nuclear disarmament steps by the end of trump's first term in office.
pompeo went further to say if they do not negotiate in good faith with the united states we will resume military drills. this is just coming out now. >> bill: word from seoul, south carolina, the "associated press." a bit more here. he says he was there, pompeo is saying he was there when the president talked about this with kim. he said the president made it very clear that the condition for the military freeze was on the good faith talks continuing and says if it's no longer in good faith the freeze is no longer in effect. that is the first reaction. mike pompeo speaking with the reporters there by way of the "associated press." we'll get you back caught up in the u.s. as well. >> sandra: no confusion there. pompeo says trump was unambiguous conveying that. >> bill: we have this. republican katie arrington knocking off a well-known
republican in the primary and how a tweet may have swayed the race. she is live with reaction up next. sandra? >> sandra: plus the house republicans teeing up a pair of vote on immigration as the attorney general changes the rules for asylum-seekers. >> you do not get to come to america if you have a private threat or someone personally attacks you. you don't have asylum for that. hi i'm joan lunden.
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>> sandra: an upset in south carolina. katie arrington defeating incumbent republican congressman mark sanford in a key house race last night. the primary win comes on the heels of a last-minute endorsement by president trump. trump tweeting mark sanford has been unsellful to me -- unhelpful to me. he is m.i.a. and nothing but trouble. he is better off in argentina. i fully endorse katie arrington for congress in south carolina, a state i love. she is tough on crime and will continue our fight to lower taxes. vote katie! joining me now is katie arrington. south carolina state representative and g.o.p. congressional candidate. representative, thank you for being here this morning. >> thank you for having me. it's an honor. >> sandra: have you had a chance to let this all sink in, this morning? >> it did for 20 minutes but then, you know, we have a long road to go until november and we are back at work. >> sandra: what did you think that moment yesterday
when you learned of the president's endorsement and the tweet went out? >> it was amazing. i'm incredibly grateful for president trump to endorse me. it's not like he wasn't busy yesterday. the fact he took the time, incredibly grateful. we had a good deal of the people going to the polls before that. but i'm sure that tweet did not hurt and pushed us over the edge. >> sandra: do you think it led to your victory? >> i think it helped. what i think it did mostly was keep me from a runoff with mark sanford. this is a hard-fought race. you know it's been a minimum of ten months of hard work. that is not something i'm not used to doing but it something to put us over the hump. >> sandra: that is what you needed. you took just over half of the g.o.p. primary vote. 50.6%. it was an unbelievable night. people aralcaing -- people
aral calling it a stunner. i wonder what the lesson is learned. sanford being critical of the sitting president. what the message is to the republican party. >> you know we need to unify first and foremost as the republican party. and help our president get the conservative agenda across. that is unilateral. there are things we want done in this nation. we want the border wall. we need infrastructure. we need to repeal and replace obamacare. the fact that to go and bash the president on cnn isn't helpful. we need to go up to washington and do the people's work. really push forward to get done what we promise to do. promises made. promises kept. >> sandra: you mention that this is only the beginning. you have a lot of work to do and a long road ahead. what is going to be your message? >> hard work. i started this as the briefing, to the briefing room
at the pentagon. this has been nothing more than hard work, effort and perseverance by myself and an entire team of people around me. we have a long road to go. we are working toward november. there is not a doubt in my mind we have, not an uphill battle but a bat against the liberals and -- battle against the liberals and the democrats. we need to unify together and move forward. >> sandra: have you spoken to the president? >> yes. i was able to speak to him for ten minutes this morning. very, you know, wide awake. he was kind, considerate. he complimented my team. i was impressed. he took time to say hello to my team and that meant a great deal. he is a very busy man. and this young woman from south carolina was worth a phone call made everything. >> sandra: he tweeted congratulations. >> huge morning. >> sandra: representative, thank you. congratulations. >> thank you so much. >> bill: more in a moment on breaking news on the path to denuclearization. mike pompeo talking in seoul,
south carolina, says it has to start before the end of the president's first term. more on that in a moment. as we remember our otto warmbier. almost a year after his death. why the president's says this young man will not be forgotten. with tripadvisor, finding your perfect hotel at the lowest price... is as easy as dates, deals, done! simply enter your destination and dates... and see all the hotels for your stay! tripadvisor searches over 200 booking sites...
>> sandra: a lost deer making its way to a metro station in arlington, virginia. take a look at the surveillance video. the deer galloping around the tunnel across the subway tracks. >> bill: nowhere to go. >> sandra: barely avoiding an oncoming train. metro officers say the deer did thankfully make it out safely and no one was hurt. poor thing. >> bill: what did the deer do before he had cameras following him everywhere? they are showing up every place we go now. >> sandra: why did the deer cross the train track? >> bill: because he wanted to see the doe.
>> sandra: got it. >> bill: border agent in southern arizona recovering. he was shot near the u.s.-mexican border. and we are on the story. live in denver, what are we learning about this? >> the agent shot was on tucson tech somewhere -- sector of the border patrol. this happened close to the arizona-mexico border and in the early morning hours yesterday. the u.s. customs and the border protection released a statement saying the border patrol agent was shot and subsequently transported to area hospital for medical treatment. several subject in the area were taken into custody. the f.b.i. and the c.p.b. office are jointly involved. more information will be provider when available. the rancher says it happened on his 50,000-acre property where his family worked the
land for five generations. he says it is dangerous because their ranch is right along the border. >> there is no wall at the boundary. it's just a barbed wire cattle fence for 125 -- for 25 miles. >> he is a well-known backer of the president's plan to build a wall along the border. the tucson sector border patrol officer is planning to hold a news conference and talk to reporters and hopefully we'll get information at that time. >> bill: this is an area known for smugglers and dug traffickers, is that right? this part of the boarder? >> that is right. particularly in this area. you just heard jim chilton, the rancher. he says there is nothing there to stop people from crossing. the u.s. custom and the border protection oversees the border patrol says there are hundreds report every year on assault on agents but very few shootings. folks who live in this part of arizona are well-versed in the dangers. >> you have mixed emotions. youave illegals come
through. of course, it's the worth time of the year to come through. we have to be concerned with the patrol agents as well for their protection. >> again, bill, this is an open and an ongoing investigation. >> bill: thank you. >> sandra: the reaction from some military brass described as stunned silence after president trump pledges to halt joint military exercises with south korea. what is next for american troops there? as the push for denuclearization gets underway. we are live from the pentagon next. >> they wouldn't talking to trump unless they believed he was serious about using military force. president trump has done more in 500 days to deal with north korea than every president in the last 30 years.
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u.s. wants north korea to take major nuclear disarmament steps by the end of trump's first term in office. this is as we learn the pentagon may have been caught off-guard by the president's comments about suspending joint military exercises with south korea. right now a house armed services committee hearing is underway. where north korea is sure to come up. national security correspondent jennifer griffin is reporting live from the pentagon. what has been the reaction from the pentagon so far? >> well, stunned silence for the most part. defense secretary mattis is not expected to issue any statements. senior military leaders who i reached out to have told me they are studying the situation and clearly do not want to say anything that comes across as critical of the president's negotiations. u.s. forces korea says they are still awaiting guidance about the next joint military exercises scheduled for august with south korea. halting the war games is not part of the agreement signed
by president trump and kim jong un. the drills that usually anger north korea are slated for the spring and involve up to 300,000 troops from the u.s. and south korea. the president mentioned the u.s. b1 bomber that flew near the border with north korea last december after north korea's last missile test. >> president trump: we fly in bombers from guam. i said when i first started, where do the bombers come from. "guam, nearby." oh, great. nearby. what is nearby? "six and a half hours." six and a half hours? that is a long time for the big massive planes to be flying to south korea to practice and then drop bombs all over the place and then go back to guam. i know a lot about airplanes. it's very expensive. i didn't like it. >> no doubt eyebrows were raised here when the u.s. military who has taken the lead in the so-called maximum pressure campaign heard the president call the war games provocative.
keep in mind, b2 bombers typically fly 25-hour roundtrip missions from missouri to libya to strike isis. >> sandra: what can we expect to hear from the president's choice for the next ambassador to south korea at the confirmation hearing tomorrow? >> it will be interesting to hear how harry harris and how he recon silents the past statement that have -- reconciles the past statements that have been hawkish about the war games with south korea. harris is the hawkish former commander of the u.s. forces in the pacific. he has long advocated for the importance of the strategic bomber flights from qualm -- guam over the korea peninsula. >> this is a complicated operation. it demonstrated to the allies and the friends and also to kim jong un that we have the capability. we can bring the forces to bear from all around the pacific to focus on him if need be.
>> that kind of training is required if the military is to keep the commitment to fight tonight on the korean peninsula. the president is preoccupied with the cost of the exercise exercises. but privately the cost of training even over long distances is less expensive than the cost of war. >> sandra: jennifer griffin at the pentagon. thank you. >> president trump: without otto, this would not have happened. it was a terrible thing. it was brutal. but a lot of people started to focus on what was going on. including north korea. i really think that otto is someone who did not die in vain. >> bill: it was one year ago today when otto warmbier came back to his family in cincinnati, ohio, suffering extensive brain damage in a north korean prison. he died six days later. he was only 22 years old. ohio's senator rob portman worked for 18 long months to
bring otto home. senator, good morning. how are fred and cindy doing? the parents. i know you are close with them. >> it's tough. i think they would say they are pleased that the hostages were released. but it's tough to see those hostages coming home and knowing their son came home as you said in vegetative state. and that for 16 months the north koreans were lying to us about his situation. we were not hearing from him. we were not able to get consular visits. we were concerned about his health but they said he was fine. then 16 months after he had gone into effectively a vegetative state, coma like state he was as they said not waking up. it shows you, bill, the evil nature of the regime in my view and it shows you that we have to be careful as we negotiate with them.
i hopeful it will work. we need direct negotiations. >> bill: you said you want direct dialogue. >> i do. >> bill: we have it now and mike pompeo is making news a moment ago. you may be aware of this. you may be hearing this for the first time. but he is saying to expect denuclearization process to begin by the end of the presidents first term, which is two and a half years from now. he said the deal is we got it ready by verifiable. react to all this right now. >> well, first of all, i think it's are hopeful when you hear the communique and what north koreans are saying. but trust but verify. while verifying we need to keep the possibility by the way of continuing the so-called war games with south korea in place. in other words not to end it but to put a freeze on it for now just so long as we know they are actually honoring the commitments they have made. if they are not honoring them and need to be verifiable, then the exercises would continue.
>> bill: is that how you characterize this now? military freeze? >> that is how i read it. >> bill: we make a move and then their move would be next then, right, senator? >> that is correct. they made certain commitments at the summit. so let's see what they do. let's make sure again this is verifiable. i frankly don't think we can trust them given the history, which has been to enter into negotiations with the bush administration, the obama administration, the clinton administration, this is not new. to stall any movement toward reducing or eliminating the nuclear arsenal and the means to deliver it. they have used negotiations in the past as a way to get some economic help and basically stall what the international community is calling for them to do. we can't allow that to happen. >> bill: do you think kim is different than his father and grandfather? >> i do. >> bill: how come? >> well, one reason i think he has more of a -- given his little bit of a western education and orientation. i think he has a little better
sense of the world. and i think he is also realizing that having made commitments to his people that he is not going to have them go through the kind of incredible economic hardship they experienced that he has to deliver. there is an opportunity here but he is not someone to be trusted. >> bill: you know the attention will go to congress. and the range of opinions are flooding in. do you think the democrats are giving a fair shake here? do they think singapore should not have happened based on iran and president obama and all, the eight years of that period? >> look, i think there is a bipartisan consensus here that it is a good idea to get rid of their nuclear weapons program. it's a huge national security threat to our country and the world. however, i have seen democrats
say things they wouldn't have said if it was not president trump going own. so we -- trump going over. we need to be careful. i'm skeptical and it needs to be verified and we need a maximum pressure campaign on the shrined to go back into effect including exercises with south korea regarding north korea. but it is a good thing we are talking directly. it's a good thing that there is the possibility now for them to dismantle the nuclear weapons program. we need to keep that in mind on a nonpartisan basis. do what is best for the security and the safety of the american people. >> bill: good to see you. come back. rob portman from ohio. >> sandra: attorney general jeff sessions changing the rule for asylum-seekers as the house prepares for a debate on a pair of immigration measures next week. how will the fight impact the battle over border security? >> i believe it will help us manage our caseloads better and give more focus to people
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>> sandra: house speaker paul ryan set to bring two immigration bills to the floor next week aimed at protecting dreamers and resolving border security and other immigration issues. the move was a blow to a group of republican moderates working to get their own bill to the house floor. >> this is an effort to bring our caucus together, the conference together on immigration. i'm very, very pleased with the members. what happened was our members got together, spoke with one another and compromised with each other so that we could find a way forward without exercising a discharge petition, which would mean we would never make law. so now what we have a chance to make law and solve this problem. >> sandra: good morning. i wonder where you would like
to see the debate go and that conversation go as they try to move forward with two immigration bills next week. >> good morning. well, we hope that it means resources. we have a renewed focus with the president on border security. we have asked for a number of things. infrastructure, technology and more agents. the plans are in place. we are moving out on some of the plans. we would like more resources to do more. but just as important as the resources we have to close the loopholes that are in the way, immigration laws enforce in the country. we have to find a way to have the people have a hearing while in custody. otherwise they are released in the society and we convenient more to come. this is a dangerous journey for children and families to come up through the border. so we are looking for ways to stop that. that is what we are hoping for. >> sandra: i want your thoughts on massive new asylum rule changes. but first, here is the attorney general jeff sessions on that. >> seven years ago, 5,000
people were applied for asylum on claiming a credible fear of being at home in the home country and they needed to flee that country. that number jumped to 94,000 in seven years. it's overwhelming our system. >> sandra: so to be clear, the numbers that he is talking about there, the so-called "credible fear reviews" skyrocketed from 5,000 in 2009 to 94,000, ron, in 2016. will these new changes curb that trend? >> it might. it depends how the system works. c.d.p., there is no change. if someone claims credible fear we refer the cases. the fewer cases they have, the people who actually have an asylum claim that deserve to be refugee in the united states are buried under the frivolous claims. this could alleviate some of the backlog. >> sandra: sessions didn't
lay out specific changes in the speech but told them that the decision would tail the daily duties. that is a goal for the attorney general to alleviate the pressure on the immigration courts. >> yeah. we need to have more capacity in the systems. so whether it's the detention or the court or due process, if they have more capacity than people stay in custody until they have the due process, that is a consequence for entering the border illegally. the consequence doesn't exist for anybody that comes as a child or anybody that comes as part of a family. so any way we can add capacity in the locations, along with the other investments that are required for the border security. we have a safer and more secure border. we'll do better with the investments we make. >> sandra: talk to me about the overall trend at the border, ron. the first year of the trump presidency, we saw a dip in illegal border crossings but now the numbers have returned to the averages we were seeing before that. >> yeah. it's a description of how consequences matter.
people believe shortly after the election that there were going to be tougher on the border security, that people would be held in custody. they found out in practice is that is not the case. so now the trends are back with us. we are seeing our large increase in families and the children that are coming unaccompanied. because of the economy we are seeing single adult males coming in bigger populations. so we have to be able to get to a place where these people can have the due process while they are in custody so the people that have an actual claim for asylum get adjudicated properly and those that don't can get removed. >> sandra: change is coming and a big debate happening in congress next week. we will be following that. ron, we like having you on the program. come back. thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> bill: so from california, voters will have a chance to start a major process in november. a process that could change the american map. so how much do they really love the state? we ask. next.
coming up on "outnumbered" the president is back home after the summit with kim jong un and the reaction continues. he tweets that north korea is no longer a nuclear threat but some democrats are saying the president already gave up too much and got nothing in return. whether they have a point or are they playing politics? >> melissa: i wonder. primaries in five states yesterday and some highlighting one thing for republicans oppose the president at your own peril. how much influence president trump will have on voters in november? we'll debate that. it's wednesday! one lucky guy on "outnumbered" top of the hour as well.
see you then. >> bill: thank you, ladies. the proposal that could radically change the america political landscape getting a major go-ahead for november. here is the deal. a plan to split california to three separate states received enough signatures to qualify for the ballot on november 6. what is going to happen then? adam housley is live in the newsroom in l.a. good morning, adam. >> hey, leave it to california, right? everything seems to start here. imagine the country's most populous state, the third largest in size, been around since 1850 split up to three separate areas. at least the possibility could happen. at least the process could start this fall. imagine that. if it comes to pass here is how california would look. the first part is california, basically the l.a., monterrey and the coast of the south. then middle california, fresno to san diego. and the third part is northern california, which would be san francisco, sacramento, capital is, of course, my home area of napa would be part of northern
california. so voters could get a chance to decide this. venture capital itselfs, draper authored this and said they got more than enough signatures to qualify for the november ballot. you might remember a couple of times in the last few years they tried to split california up to six. there was some time they tried to start the state of jefferson in the north. this isn't a new concept, bill. but many here argue the reason why this is happening is because l.a. and the area forget about the rest of the state. dividing the state's asset and the liabilities amongst three new states to make doe sixes about taxing and spending more efficient. supports say the citizens would be better served but others say it would create chaos. in part the initiative says, "divides california into three states sunt to approval from congress -- subject to approval from congress," keep that in mind. and it would direct governor to request approval in 12 months. that is a big unlikely. even if it passes the idea that congress potential lir might pass this. there would be a ton of
challenges. one note came from the legislative analyst office and it says that this is going to, the new state face income inequality and disparities and certain court challenges. it will be a lot of fun in the fall. >> bill: what state is l.a. going to be in? >> it will be in california. but i'm a north cowboy so i'd be in northern cowboy. >> bill: figure that out. thank you, man. adam housley. >> sandra: president trump awaiting a key briefing on the clinton e-mail investigation. ahead of the inspector general report on how the f.b.i. handled it. what is expected in that report? 57 the im -- and the impact it could have on the russia investigation.
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cool! >> bill: it's nerve-wracking. >> sandra: by the way, the president is on with bret baier tonight. tune in for that. safe travels. we will see you tomorrow. "outmbered" starts now. >> hris: fox newrt on the new reaction to preside trump's summit with kim jong un. the president is back in washington, d.c. celebrating his historic meeting. saying everyone can now feel safer that the day he took office and that north korea is no longer a nuclear threat. and now we are getting brand new details from the secretary of state mike pompeo, who is in south korea. so this is coming together. this is "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner here today, host of "after the bell" on fox business, melissa francis. town hall editor and fox news contributor katie pavlich. host of "kennedy" on fox business, wendy. joining us for the first time in the center seat is david tafuri. the foreign policy adviser for