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don't forget this weekend special three days in moscow. it runs sunday 8:00 p.m. eastern time. worth checking out. right now "the story" hosted by martha maccallum up in new york, here in new york i should say starts right now. >> martha: good to see you, bret. thank you. and breaking tonight, the president says that if they pass it on the hill, he will sign it. that as of this evening and that on the heels of this media gaggle that could happen in the trump white house and the heat today was on the border. >> do you agree with children being taken away from -- >> -- no, i hate it that's. >> the battle intensifying though this evening as the president now says that he would sign either of those competing bills right now hoping to move past exchanges like this. >> the democrats have to change their law. that's their law.
[shouting] >> quiet, quiet. that's the democrats' law. we can change it tonight. we can change it. >> you are the president. >> we need their votes: the democrats- [everyone talking at the same time] >> chambers of commerce. >> excuse me, by one vote. we don't need it. you need 60 votes. we have one vote. excuse me, we need a one vote. we have a one vote edge we need 60. we need 10 votes. we can't get them from the democrats. >> what about executive action. >> wait. wait. you can't do it through executive action. [everyone talking at the same time] >> can we do one question at a time? wait, one question at a time. >> the children, the children can be taken care of quickly, beautifully and immediately. the democrats forced that law upon our nation. i hate it i hate to see separation of parents and children. >> martha: so we now know there are almost 2,000 of these children and house democratic leader nancy pelosi firing back. she called the president
today shameful. watch. >> he is using dreamers whether they are dreamers or little children at the border now for political purpose. it's shameful. >> martha: trump supporter franklin graham as well as the catholic bishops are now getting involved in this fight. >> gratefu disgraceful to see families ripped apart i don't support that one bit. >> martha: the attorney general widowing down the argument. just as people can't go to jail with their parents when they commit a crime. the same principal is what is happening when they cross illegally. so who is going to win this showdown? trace gallagher live in our west coast newsroom to tell us what is really going down and what the history is of all of this law at the border. hey, trace. >> the wheels of the new immigration legislation began turning late yesterday when republican leaders sir could you a littled copies of the discussion draft. today house majority whip
steve scalise was supposed to gauge support from the various proposals until as you saw the president withdrew his support. now the white house says it was a misunderstanding and the president does support the legislation, which appears to include everything he asked for. like $25 billion to build the wall. getting rid of the visa lottery program. that leads to what the white house calls chain migration. allowing 1.8 million daca recipients. also known as dreamers to apply for a path to permanent residency ending the controversial practice they have all been talking about separating families detained at the border. president trump blames families beinged on a law passed by democrats. we don't know of such a law there is a 2008 policy called the alien transfer exit program, which was widely used by the obama administration and resulted in thousands of immigrant families being split up when it comes to public finger pointing there appears to be collective amnesia followed by selective outrage. for example, this week
twitter went crazy over aclu report detailing that children of illegal immigrants were, quote: allegedly beaten, threatened with sexual violence, and repeatedly assaulted while in custody one twitter post this is trump's america. wow, are you happy trump fans? this is what you wanted. but apparently they didn't read the aclu report very closely considering the incident allegedly happened between 2009 and 2014. and over the memorial day, former obama speech writer jon favreau tweeted outrage over pictures of immigrant children being held in what looked like dog cages saying this is happening right now. except the pictures are from 2014. bottom line, children of illegal immigrants have been placed in u.s. immigration shelters for decades and it appears everyone is now ready for it to end. martha.
>> martha: here now tammy bruce president of the independent women's voice and fox news contributo contribe father jonathan morris and enrique. when you look at the pictures and history of this law, it has been in place for a very long time. >> phil i think we can agree family separation is cruel, inhumane and in this case completely unjustifiable. there is no law in our immigration books that says that children can be separated or should be separated from their parents. that's just not the case. right now, what we have a policy implemented by the trump administration zero tolerance that is -- has resulted in over 1900 kids being separated from their parents. >> martha: let me ask you this. what do you make of jeff sessions explanation when he says, you know, when a parent commits a crime, the child cannot go to jail with them in order to keep the family together. and they are saying, crossing the border illegally is breaking the law. so when that happens,
unfortunately, temporarily while the parents go through the process because they are not going to be caught and released. they have to find safe places to hold these children. have you images of some of those areas. obviously it's a terrible situation for families to be separated. but, you know, when you look at it that way, does that make a sense to you. >> there is discretion. not putting shoplifters in every case and not separating them. we are not putting possession behind bars in every case and separating them from their children. and they are also breaking the law. there is such a thing as discretion. before zero tolerance implemented that was the case women grant families. we don't need to separate immigrant families and almost 2,000 kids from their parents just to make a point and uses that a deterrent. chief of staff attorney general jeff sessions has said. >> martha: other thing they
said since they became lax in this program it was sort of understood by some people who wanted to get into the country that if you come as a family they will let you through. better way to come and bring your kids and now obviously that's changed. >> that's one of the problems with the policy for years is that we effectively subsidize this kind of approach that people found out that i if you have a child you will be caught and released. versus not having a child. the "new york times" reported in april that in fact, people are admitting this families brought children knowing there was a better chance they would get through and be released and others, this is the serious dynamic with unaccompanied minors, and minors in children are people posing as parents. so here we have the outrages overcoming the facts. i will give you an example. three reasons why adults or parents are separated from children. one, they are posing as the parent and they're not the parent. they are a threat to the child. or they are put into criminal proceedings.
this is -- it's not a whole scale. >> zero tolerance. >> and so this is also, again, something that was happening throughout the obama regime as well. but it comes down to catch and release. but we have facilitated the parents bring across the border in a way game the system. this is what the president wants to stopped. he stated he wants it stopped. all of us are outraged that we are even in this dynamic and it comes down to an or did hely immigration dynamic and security at the border where we can treat everyone with dignity and people are not encouraged to move into the country in this fashion. >> martha: let me bring in father jonathan. have you catholic bishops and frankly graham arguing these families need to be held together. catholic bishop argue going anyone is helping to implement this program and is catholic they could potentially be excomiewrn indicated for being part of it. >> okay.
that. >> was one bishop who actually suggested that i don't think it represents all of them. the fact is that we have 20% more children in this situation separated from their children this year compared too last year. it's a big deal. we have to solve. this we're not that far away from solving it. both president trump as well as the republican and the democrats also this is an outrageous situation. whose fault is it? of course there are people who are faking bringing children over and saying that they are their children that's not. of course there are people breaking the law coming over illegally. all of that is bad. the government has to be bigger than that to say what are we going to do about it? there are children there alone. it's traumatic for them. traumatizing for them. say this not from a theoretical perspective. i live in the south bronx. i see what's happening to
these families with these children. i see children who are here without parents. okay. the parents are definitely not perfect and they shouldn't be crossing illegally but the government has to figure out what we are going to do for the sake of these children. >> martha: what do they do? do they change the law? do they incarcerate families together? enrique, what's the solution? you have the folks who are breaking the law. and there salah there is a border. you are not allowed to cross the border illegally and then you have, i think everyone here in this conversation and outside of it who really understands that this is not an ideal situation. the president made that clear himself. >> i appreciate the question, martha. we should be focusing on solutions. i think the solution is not separating families. there are very few examples of government using family separation throughout history. we don't wants to be part of that the solution is just not building walls and reducing the legal path for immigrants to come into this country and, again, separating children from their parents. i think the solution has to
do with finding the root causes of immigration. having a wider legal path people come here and do the jobs we need them to do. a lot of solutions that weekend, you know, agree on in congress. but extremes taking over the debate and no space for comprehensive immigration. >> martha: you have a couple of those going to be considered eventually it looks like would allow $25 billion to build the wall as well as a solution to this problem to keep families together. so is that a workable solution? tammy and father jonathan. >> we definitely want, especially if this dynamic where you can keep a family together within a separate kind of facility so, you don't have to separate them. and then that process is very quick, as a matter of fact, then they become home as a unit. could they go back home to their home country and others want them released here that can be very quick
framework. keeping families together once a criminal proceeding is over usually within the same day and then sent home. the other framework, this is how we handle keeping families together while also respecting our laws here at home. >> martha, we can't forget that there is tremendous amount of hypocrisy over many different administrations. the fact that we have -- we are right now allowing people to come in, giving them work, no doubt, giving them work and then saying hey, listen, but you can't be full members of our society. because we do not want to do everify system. in our system we do not want to actually find out who is illegal. we can't forget that we are taking advantage and there are children who are growing up right now who have been here in the country for their whole lives or with families who simply, the
parents are working but they cannot become full members of our society and it's not helpful. >> martha: politics don't get in the way of a solution. both sides would really rather not have the other side involved to come up with a solution it seems with this very hot debate. let's see where it goes. thank you very much all of you. great to have you here tonight. so, still to come. former trump campaign chair paul manafort got some very bad news today and tonight, he is behind bars. so, what does this mean going forward? and the president also saying that the ig report exonerated him and proved why he was right to fire james comey. so byron york and victor david hanson with their takes up next. >> i think what he did was a disgrace. i think he goes down as the worst fbi director in history by far. there's nobody close.
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out on former campaign chairman's slow fall from grace. today in light of new accusations. of witness tampering federal judge ordered paul manafort to be jailed while he waits trial on foreign lobbying charges. as manafort sits in federal custody tonight, the president taking a victory lap in the wake of the doj watchdog scathing report on the clinton probe. >> may be more importantly than anything, it totally exxonner rates me. james comey was unfair to the people of this country. i think what he did was a disgrace. i think he goes down as the worst fbi director in history. i'm amazed that peter strzok is still at the fbi. the ig blew it at the very end. he goes point after pointed about how guilty hillary is and then he said but we're not going to do anything about it. >> loss to go over here tonight. byron york joins us chief when i will correspondent for th "the washington examiner." victor hanson good to have both of you with us tonight. byron, i would like to start
with you. paul manafort, i mean it, raises a question, of course, whether or not he is being squeezed. are they putting pressure on him to turn. there is some discussion tonight that michael cohen is getting closer to that as well. >> well, this is kind of maximum pressure on paul manafort. the mueller team has been very tough with manafort all along. remember that no knock raid where fbi agents served a search warrant breaking into an apartment in alexandria. there has been loot of this with man ford. now putting in jail is pretty much the maximum pressure. all of this is based on the idea that manafort somehow has the smoking gun about donald trump that will prove collusion or something like that. no evidence that he has that certainly hasn't popped up in any other way that we know of in the investigation. >> martha: victor, what does it signal to you, what they did to manafort today? >> i think two things, martha. one is that in the united
states jerusalem prudence, we go after a crime and the person committed it is incidental. we go after the crime but we have reversed the process we start with him as guilty and find any crime we can to tag him with when the mandate says it was collusion. the second thing is that it raises the disturbing quality under the law issue. because, if pau paul manafort tampered with witnesses and tried to obstruct justices by all means let him suffer the full force of the law. we are looking at ig report where it's pretty clear that loretta lynch met with bill clinton whose wife was the subject of investigation by the doj. they told us they didn't want to release that, it was found out by accident. but they asked us to believe of the 5,000 airports in the united states they just happened by accident to meet at this particular one. >> martha: i want to put up what rudy giuliani said about the probe today he said the whole thing is over might get cleaned up with
presidential pardons, byron. what do you think about that statement. >> what giuliani is doing is a political case the president is making against mueller. the president is really doing two track defense on one track is the legal case handled by emit flood who we never hear from in public. >> martha: on the other hand rudy giuliani. >> exactly and we hear from him a lot. and heard from the president himself. this ig gives him a lot of ammunition because they can say, look, the fbi, the people who are running this investigation were just shot through with anti-trump bias. this whole thing was rigged, which is what the president has been saying all along. >> martha: you know, the question that the president raises there, victor is, a good one. how does peter strzok still have a job? now that america has looked at all of these text messages, and all of this sentiment, you know, it is remarkable and does it signal that we need really to clean house at the fbi we
heard strong words from christopher wray yesterday but what's required to fix the awful situation? >> i'm disappointed in christopher wray because the ig's data maybe wasn't reflected in its conclusions but it was pretty obvious that these fbi people had this disdain for trump whom they were investigating at that time and even the trump voter, which they compare to some pretty horrible things i can't repeat on tv and it's really disturbing because we get the impression that these people are never subject to the consequences of their behavior in a way that other people who are under investigation, you and i would be. so, it's a matter of equality, equal application of the law that there is something i want to get back to one last point. the entire thing is predicated on the premise that hillary clinton would have been -- what we sees a questionable even illegal behavior, they were under
the assumption when they committed that that they would be rewarded for noble service to a noble cause rather than fall under criminal exposure. >> martha: such a great point, victor. even recognizing that verbally, byron, once you recognize that, the pretense that you are not looking at it through a political lens is gone. >> it was politicized all the way through. i think one of the fbi agents who actually interviewed hillary clinton said this is july 2nd of 2016. just interviewed the president. so, it was politicized from the beginning all the way through the end. >> martha: so i mean the question i keep hearing a lot is, does any of this these findings reopen the case for hillary clinton, byron? >> probably not. that is something closed and take new evidence. >> martha: still to come tonight, hollywood loves to hate the president and one
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>> as commander of the coast guard, atlantic area, admiral schultz took responsibility for the coast guard response across the gulf coast, the atlantic, and the caribbean. i have complete confidence that karl will carry out his new mission with the same talent, strength and devotion that have characterized his entire career. >> martha: that was president trump swearing in admiral karl schultz as the new head of the u.s. coast guard. he has big shoes to fill. the smallest military branch has a giant mission to give you a sense during last year's back-to-back hurricanes. search and rescue efforts by the service saved more than 11,000 lives coast guard place a crucial front line
role in national defense. fighting to keep drug smugglers from bringing in opioids. all with fewer than 40,000 service members in their ranks. joining me exclusively for first interview as commandant admiral karl schultz. congratulations and thank you for being here tonight. >> good evening, martha and thanks for the privilege of being here tonight. >> martha: a lot of people look at that list and many people are not as familiar with what the coast guard does and how important it is to protecting our borders. we watch the debate over what's going on at the southern border right now. what do you want people to understand about the work that you do there and what you think we need to do in order to make it safer? >> as you mentioned in the interim the coast guard is the smallest of the five services department of homeland security. men and women are absolutely critical to the homeland security of the nation and the national security. you mentioned border security. you know, on the maritime front, we tend to push and try to push our borders as far away from the u.s. coast
line as possible against transnational criminals. last year we were with partner agencies and international partners stem 491,000 pounds of cocaine kept that from american shores. that's the same illicit narcotics that fuels the immigration from hu honduras, guatemala el salvador. show up at our southwest border. >> martha: you are very busy. in terms of the north part of the globe and to the south, too. the ice cutters that you need to function. tell me a little bit about what you need that perhaps you don't have and we will look at the action of these ice cutters on the screen how do we pressure up with what other countries have for this capability? >> absolutely, martha. so the coast guard isvel relevant in what we call the high lat attitudes or polar regions up in the artic. we are operating the sole
united states ice breaker, the polish star. built in the 70s more than 40 years old with the support of the administration and congress we are on our way to build a heavy ice breaker replacement to serve our national interest that's projecting our sovereignty there. also operate in the antarctic where we go into the station and allow critical supplies to get in there to attend to the nation's interest in that part of the world as well. >> martha: obviously the hurricanes were devastating and your response to them, the coast guard response really turned around in some ways a funding issue that could have been tough for the coast guard. the president when he initially came in wanted to cut 1.3 billion from the budget in order to fund the border wall. but then he was so taken with the work that you all did in the hurricane that he said this and put back the money. watch. in last year's historic hurricane season, our coast guard, heroes they are, saved almost 12,000 american
lives in that short period. it's aoun unbelievable number when you think of it. [applause] >> unbelievable number. >> martha: in terms of funding, do you feel like have you what you need? i guess you never have enough, right? >> well, martha, i think you mentioned the coast guard is the nation's maritime first responder. as the president noted we responded in the system more than 11,000, almost 12,000 people. the first responder it's really not about the number. it's about who that next person you are about to save is yeah, we have an organization that 42,000 active duty strong. my concern coming in is to assure the readiness of the coast guard. i talk about the coast guard about being ready, relevant response organization. that's what gets after the needs of the nation. we are tied, our economic prosperity. our global influence are tied to our maritime and the coast guard is very much a part of that conversation. >> martha: obviously you are concerned about the enemies that the united states faces. earlier today the president held sort of an impromptu
news conference. here is what he said about kim jong un. >> we have heard a lot of bad things about rocket man and suddenly you guys are good friends. >> we got along well. good chemistry. we really did have good chemistry. >> does that concern you at all the things that the president is saying about kim jong un are somewhat positive given his history? >> well, martha, the coast guard plays its role and support in the department of defense. on the daily basis across the seven continents we are supporting 68 combatant commanders in that position i would defer to the pentagon in terms of what the president speak with north korea. we are very much a part of the ambulance for any type of contingency. commanders under the department. rorks thank you very much. admiral. con democrat legs on the new job. we'll be catching.
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communication team let's just go outside and chat with the reporters and go for a little walk. what happened next was, well, watch. >> is there a reason crazy dictator. >> i will come over here. >> one at a time. >> do you think comey's actions were unfair to hillary. >> if you remember, if you are fair, which most of you aren't. >> is it over? >> quiet, quiet. you don't understand sarcasm. >> yes or no? >> who are you with? >> you are with cnn? you are the worst. >> what you really,. >> on north korea. >> wait, wait, wait. >> martha: is that everybody hopping this morning. joining me how chris stirewalt fox news editor. we were talking this morning watched the whole thing someone said can you imagine the reporters talking that way if this was president bush or president obama? hold on, this is president bush or president obama, this never would have happened. i mean, they didn't sit in the white house and go i think i'm going to take a walk outside and just chat
it up with the reporter on this beautiful spring day. what do you think? >> right. and they also didn't smack the press around like this president does. >> martha: not at all. >> and we have to remember, very lightly comparatively. we have to remember that there are people who are in the press corps who are advantaged by being in conflict, open conflict, hostility with this president and this administration. just as it is in this administration's benefit, sometimes, to be in open hostility and conflict with what the president calls the lyin' press it works for them in that wail and it works for individual reporters. but it's bad for the rest of you was who are trying to do this in the right way. it you are barking and shouting and fighting and trading insults with the president, how are you getting closer to what we all need which is a clear picture about what's going on? >> yeah. it's very true. you know, some people, i think, were offended at the way the reporters were shouting the questions at the president. in many ways, as you point
out, chris, he has sort of set those parameters. you know. i mean, that's the way he functions. i don't think he walks out at that moment and goes they are so awful and mean. maybe he says that on the surface. he obviously wanted to mix it up out there today. he was heading for steve doocy. but he stopped along the way and was happy to engage all these other reporters. i mean, i think he loved what happened this morning. don't you? >> i would suspect. especially because, again, it does let him cast those reporters who do things like that in that light and the other thing is, you referenced the lester holt interview. after that debacle where the president talked to firing comey over russia once they said that they put the -- whether it was legal team or comms team. he sat down with our colleague bret baier. he sat down with george stephanopoulos from abc. they are trying out putting the president back out to do interviews again. i say it's about time. let's have it.
let's hear more. >> martha: absolutely. we love to speak with him again some time soon as well. i think you are absolutely right. the legal team has changed for one thing. rudy giuliani is the front man there. and he is on all the time. >> yes. >> martha: all the time. we will see how that works out and then the communications team has had some shifts in it as well with the departure of hope hicks and a couple of others. i want to show you one moment from today and get your thoughts on it because i thought this was interesting. this is about otto warm beer war and human rights. >> spoken so passionately about the circumstances that led to otto warmbier's death. >> yeah. >> in the same breath you are defending now kim jong un's human rights records. how can you do that? >> do you know why? because i don't want to see a nuclear weapon destroy you and your family. >> martha: what did you think of that, chris? >> well, i guess i mean, if that's your -- if the standard becomes everything i do can be excused if it is in the name of protecting
your family from being killed in thermal nuclear war. i think we need to get the bar ump off the ground a little bit from there. look, the president is obviously speaks in hyperbole. is he always -- is he too afoosball in his praising and too afusive in his damning when he does it no matter, what he always goes to 11. when you are talking about kim jong un, he has talked himself into some trouble on this and the salute and all that jazz because he goes over the top with everything. that leaves him vulnerable. that leaves him open to people saying hey, what happened to this terrible monster that you previously described who now you meet him one time and say is he great guy? >> martha: when you look at it though. and this is always the difficulty in covering this president. when you look at what he says and what he does, you really have to do both all the time. right? because he does have some of these hostages returned. we are in the process of getting the remains returned from the korean war, which is a very important issue for some of these families. and, in many ways, chris, you know, until you start
this process, you don't sort of shed light into the dark places where, perhaps, you can get to a point. i mean, this is the policy idea anyway. where you begin to, perhaps, see a world where the go logs start to open up and the slave camps start to open up. unless you get to this point where you are talking, the argument is, that's never going to happen. >> there might be a way to talk without praising. there might be a way to talk without being so afoosball aafun praise. >> martha: like a catching. >> more catching with honey than vinegar. >> martha: when the president has the opportunity he will turn around and call him little rocket man if he has to. >> i believe he would say anything at any time depending on the circumstances absolutely yes. i'm just saying when he goes out to sacrum with scrum with rs our job is to hold people accountable. you said, this now you are doing that what's the dinners here?
look, he has an answer, which is i'm trying to basically his answer is, with the hyperbole taken out, i'm trying to do a deal here so give me a little latitude so i can try to schmooze this guy and get us what we you want. >> martha: exactly. chris stirewalt, always good to see you, chris, thank you very much. >> happy friday. >> martha: thank you, you too. so coming up next, who can forget this? >> i'm going to say one thing. [bleep] trump. >> martha: hollywood just loves president trump. loving, loving, loving the president. well, maybe not exactly. and one director simply had enough of the lack of political thought diversity in tinseltown so he left. his very successful career to do movies like this. >> the president will give me plenty of guys to look at guys i don't like. >> >> joins me next with his take on the -- in the era of president trump when we come back. received word!
a filmmaker who is making waives and finding success outside of los angeles, producer dallas sonia is forging his own path without personal personal politics into his work. a brave and unusual choice in an industry where open hostility against the president has become sort of the it thing to do. watch. >> when was the last time an actor assassinated a president? >> yes, i have thought an awful lot about blowing up the white house. >> i hope there's a couple where i interrogate him then, i arrest him and then i escort him to jail. >> you mean, you mean trump? >> yeah, who do you think i mean? >> this guy, this administration is beyond belief. it has to stop. >> here now dallas, movie producer and ceo of center state. good to have you with us. >> thank you for having me.
>> martha: interesting reading about your history. you have had a lot of success in hollywood and doing independent films involved in a lot of work that people there would respect and admire. so what started to happen in your life that you thought, you know what? i'm tired of this whole rap? >> yeah, it was two things. first of all, in my hollywood life and career, i noticed that there was a studio system in place where the writer and director would bring their product to the executives and the studios and ask for financing and the scripts would be put through a difficult fusion process, the creative executives would put their, you know, derivative notes onto the script. and what would come out the other side would be something that i didn't really respond to very much, i think as film producers, we need to support the creative vision of the writer and director
afusively. otherwise don't make the movie end of story. the other thing was i lost both of my parents in terrible situations of domestic gun violence. and after that happens to one person, you don't have a lot of time for b.s. >> martha: i'm sure you don't. i'm sure you don't. and when you take a look at the way things are being done in hollywood. you picked up and brought your family to texas where you group. you say now you have something -- is it called the tennessee's cousin's role or texas cousin's role how you figure out whether or not something is going to work in the rest of america. >> yeah, what i do, my -- both sides of my family is from louisiana. and what i have is the louisiana cousin test. and what i'll do is i will text my cousin the name of the actor that i'm about to cast in the movie and if they know who that actor is. it tends to give me a good sense of whether the movie
will do well in audiences outside of l.a. and new york. so louisiana cousin test has proven. >> martha: give me an example of somebody that they would go no, that doesn't nothing for me? >> yeah, i mean, the example i have given in the past, timothy shalamay for example. although is he very talented actor and nominated. he just doesn't. >> martha: he is not resonating with the cousins in tennessee. >> is he not resonating with that crowd. >> martha: making money off these movies. you say if you do a movie about someone who, you know, had a family member who was injured or wronged and then they unjustly go to prison and then they come out again, and they go back and, you know, shoot the people who did this to them, you're going to make money on your movie. depending on how you distribute it? >> yeah. yeah. that was -- those were predominantly my previous films with stone cold steve austin. if you just make a movie where it is -- it's uncompromising and
unforgiving, and doesn't really worry too much about political correctness or filtering your own personal politics through the film, i think what you are find is that true movie becomes more authentic and i think that audiences crave authentic experiences and entertaining experiences. so that's what i found and it's proven to be very successful financial model for us. >> martha: i'm almost out of time. i need to squeeze this in. you have a movie you are working on about a girl in a school shooting incident who turns the gun on the shooter and kills him. and you said you might have difficulty casting that role. how is that going? >> yeah. it's called run, hide, fight. it's a terrific script about a young girl who decides to fight back instead of run away from a terrible situation. and she leans on her experiences of hunting with her father over the several years that she was a teenager. and, i found that the script is incredible. people really love it, but the actors have given pause
and their managers have sort of at times talked them out of starring in the movie out of fear of backlash. >> martha: because they will be hold go ahead ing the gun anf good person with a gun ending a bad situation for somebody else holding one on innocent people. dallas, thank you very much. very interesting. good to talk to you. >> thank you. thanks for having me. >> martha: we'll be rightll back. that's auto and home insurance for the modern world. esurance, an allstate company. click or call. paying too much for insurance that isn't the right fit? well, esurance makes finding the right coverage easy. in fact, drivers who switched from geico to esurance saved an average of $412. that's auto and home insurance for the modern world. esurance, an allstate company. click or call.
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>> martha: finally president trump celebrated his 72nd birthday. conan thought this was how he spent his special day. >> he had cake and played golf and then remembered it was his birth. >> yesterday was a big day. not only did the ig report come out. it was your birthday. get any good presents? >> kisses and phone calls from
people. >> kisses from? >> by beautiful wife who is doing great. >> martha: have a great weekend. tucker carlson coming up next. >> ♪ >> ♪ >> ♪ >> tucker: welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." the long national nightmare is over. we are happy to report. paul manafort is behind bars tonight. the 69-year-old lobbyist was dragged to prison on the order of the federal judge. the president tweeted about manafort's imprisonment earlier today. wow, a tough sentence for paul manafo manafort. what about? that's the president's view. on the other