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fascism and they are the same as muslims. thank you very much. very important. see you next time on "life, liberty and levin" well. elizabeth: thank you for joining >> i think comey was the ringleader of this whole den of. they were plotting against my election. >>reporter: we will discuss the fallout of what it means for the mueller's special counsel investigation with congressman trey gowdy. chair of the house oversight committee. it's a "fox news sunday" exclusive. then president trump with words of praise for kim jong-un after the singapore summit. >> he speaks and his people sit up at attention, i want my people to do the same. >>chris: what did both sides
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give up and what comes next? we will ask - - the president blames democrats for the separation of families at the border. >> the dee that law upon oation but i hate it. i hate to see separation of parents and dren. >>chris: will ask our sunday panel for a chance of compromise on immigration. the washington capitals take the stanley cup to constitution avenue. in dc's first major sports title and a quarter century. alright now on "fox news sunday". hello again and happy father's day from fox news in washington. president trump is back from his summit with kim jong-un and is already taking on his next big challenge, the department of justice inspector general issued a report that is sharply
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critical of how the fbi conducted the clinton email investigation. the president says that undercuts robert mueller's probe with collusion and obstruction of justice. joining me is trey gowdy and - - bear before we get to the ig rt, i wanted to discuss how president trump and his lawyer rudy giuliani are using the ig report. here's the president linking what the inspector general found in the clinton investigation to the mueller investigation of him. >> i think that the report yesterday maybe more importantl totally exonerates me. there was no collusion. no obstruction. >>chris: does the ig report exonerates president trump? >> it certainly helps him. keep in mind the same people, the same players involved in the clinton probe later moved to the russia pro. john brennan said he should be in the dustbin of history. - - said he should- -
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[indiscernible]. this is what's most important to me, those two present and pronounced hillary clinton's innocence before her investigation ended. and they presumed and pronounced donald trump guilt beforehe investigation even began. when you have that pervasiveness of bias, yes, it's going to help the person complaining about the investigation.>>chris: on the other hand, robert mueller was not part of the clinton investigation. peter strzok was fired as soon as he found out about those damaging texts. of course we don't know what mueller has found in the last year in his investigation. again, i have to ask, has president trump been exonerated? i clearly understand your point that there was bias in the fbi.
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has he been exonerated on allegations of collusion and obstruction? >> part of that depends upon what you view the mueller probe as. you mention collusion, the only person in the universe who claims to have evidence of collusion is adam schiff. unlike any other secret he's had, he's kept to this one. he's never told anyone what evidence he has. there's no evidence of college. obstruction of justice, good luck having your star witness being james comey from shoplifting to obstruction of justice. good luck if that is your star witness. for me, the mueller probe is about what russia did in 2016 and who if anyone they did it with. that's what i mean when i say mueller probe. i hope he does right - - of what russia did but there's no evidence that donald trump did it with them and james comey would be the sorriest witness i can imagine a prosecutor would have. >>chris: i find is significant because you have not been in
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the tank for president trump on all this. >> i am not now. >>chris: i'm not saying that. but are using this morning that donald trump is off the hook? >> i don't know what mueller has. i do know this, bias is so pervasive and anyone who's ever stood in front of a jury and had to explain it away will tell you it's the most miserable feeling in the world. i have never seen this level of bias. you have peter strzok can't think of a single american who can vote for donald trump and peter strzok he says we will stop it. the campaign and if that doesn't work, the day after the election, he's talking about impeachment. how would you like that to be your lead investigator? two weeks after your assigned to look into what a foreign country did to us, the only thing he can think to talk about is an insurance policy to keep donald trump from winning and then he says, we will stop
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it. i assume the wii is the fbi. i would you like if your bob mueller to present that case to a jury? >>chris: you are cochairing on tuesday were the inspector general issued this damaging report will appear. what are the main questions you want to ask him? >> there are a bunch. michael horowitz proved but we . you can have an investigation that is fact centric and evenhanded. number one, the hillary clinton failure to prosecute was predicated on two things. number one, that her emails were not exposed to foreign actors. there's evidence that's not true. number two, there was no evidence of intent. of course there's no evidence of intent, you didn't bother to ask her. you went into the interviewing knowing she wouldn't be charged.
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i think members will ask about that. a lot of members will ask about the buyers. the same team that exonerated her, implicated him before the investigation began. i suspect some numbers will ask about the coziness between the fbi and the media. >>chris: while the fbi is critical as you pointed out, about actions taken by comey and peter strzok and others point here's his overall judgment on the final conclusion of the clinton investigation. i want to put this on the screen. this is from the ig. we found no evidence that the conclusions by the prosecutors were affected by bias or other improper considerations. rather we determined they were based on the prosecutors assessment of the facts, the law and past department practice. here is current fbi director christopher wray. >> this report did not find any evidence of political bias or improper considerations
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actually impacting the investigation under review . >>chris: when they stay the final judgment, there may have been bias but that didn't affect the final judgments. are the inspector general and christopher wray wrong? >> i will tell you this. why did loretta lynch ask it to be called a - - and not an investigation. why did you start planning your press conference two months before the investigation was over . here's where i depart from christopher wray. i don't think it's my job to prove bias impacted the investigation. i think it's his job to prove that it did not. here's what i know, they exonerated her before the interview. they said she did nothing g before they even bothered to talk to her and this same group
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said donald trump should not be the president and/or should be impeached before the investigation began. if that is not textbook bias which is the prejudging of an outcome. that's what bias is between you prejudging the outcome. we are prejudging her innocence before we talk to her. we are prejudging his guilt before you even look into the fact pattern. that is bias.and it impacted t outcome. the most important element is intent. that's what they all told us, she did not have the intent to commit a crime. the best way to figure that out is to talk to her but they went into the interview saying the only thing shall be charged with is maybe lying to us. if your donald trump or any other defendant in the country, how would you like that deal? we won't charge up with anything as long as you tell us the truth. that is blanket immunity and everyone in the country with like that as they go into an interview with the fbi. >>chris: a couple of top
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republican leaders, mccarthy, leader macconnell are saying given all of this and given the fact the mueller investigation has gone on for more than a year, it's time to wrap it up. it's clearly putting a cloud on the president. do you agree with that? >> i think it's putting more than putting a cloud over the entire country. this is a unique case. is a counterintelligence investigation that's become public. most of them do not. it's a criminal investigation that has political overtones. combine the two. it's a public counterintelligence investigation with political overtones. this is not your traditional investigation. so, i would encourage bob mueller, keep doing exactly what rod rosenstein hired you to do. bob mueller did not volunteer. we are here because rod rosenstein decided we needed a special counsel. to the very best you can with evidence and witnesses you have
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but understand this is being used by political enemies to hurt donald trump. adam schiff wants to be the chairperson of the house intelligence committee. nancy pelosi wants to be the speaker of the house. they want bob mueller to do what peter strzok and hillary clinton could not do. which is beat donald trump. just be aware you're being used would be my advice to bob mueller. >>chris: i want to ask you for quick answers. should based on what you knew before what you know now from the ig's report, should hillary clinton been charged with a crime? >> i need to interview effectively. i need to ask for those questions on intent. we know she lied. we know she concealed evidence. we know they destroyed evidence. those are all circumstantial markers of intent. so i would need to interview her without going into it knowing i was going to clear like the fbi did. >>chris: should call me and peter strzok be called to testify before congress?>> >>chris: on what issues? >> peter strzok, you name it.
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the highest leof bias i've ever witnessed in any law enforcement officer. and james comey, has a mclean to do. he's having a hard time getting his stories to match. horowitz wvery critical of him and deservedly so. >>chris: finally, where our house republicans in your demand, your call for the department of justice to share more documents. especially on this question of the use by the fbi of a confidential informant to penetrate the trump campaign. and also, do you believe that some of your colleagues that deputyod rosenstein threatened the house and staffers for demanding those documents. >> i wasn't in the room for that january meeting. i've been in the room for other meetings where tensions ran high.
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we had a meeting friday night. yet members of the house working on a friday night. paul ryan led this meeting. devin nunes, bob goodlatte, myself and everyone you can think of from the fti and doj. we went item by item on both of those outstanding subpoenas. we either have compliance, partial or noncompliance. paul made it very clear, ere's going to be action on the floor of the house. this week. if the fbi and doj do not comply with our na requests. rod rosenstein, christopher wray, you understood him just as clearly as i did. we will get compliance for the house of representatives will use its full arsenal of constitutional weapons to gain compliance. this is too important it was to import before the ig report. the report has heightened the need for us to understand what happened in 2016. for the new guys can be part of
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the cleanup crew or part of the encourage them to be part of the cleanup crew. >>chris: very briefly, the areas where you see noncompliance and you might see action on the floor this week. that's on what area? >> it would be fisa abuse, a little bit on the peter strzok/page text. where we read that most damning text. devens subpoena is largely, most of the issues were devin nunes subpoena and that's fisa abuse. what led to the russia probe. the speaker of the house is really clear. you're going to comply or they will be for action and i think they got the message. >>chris: floor action would be? >> the full - - of
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constitutional weapons available to the house. >>chris: including contempt of congress, >> that would be among them, yes sir. i don't want the drama. i think chris and rod got that message. i want the documents. i don't want the drama and i don't want the floor fight. but they need to know we are willing to do it and unless they were in a different meeting. i have never seen paul ryan as animated as i saw him friday night. he is sick and tired of the delay and he communicated that point very effectively. >>chris: thank you. always good to talk with you. you had a lot to say today. thank you sir. >> happy father's day. >> happy father's day. >>chris: ancestrydna is only $69 for father's day. and with twice the detail of other tests... ...it can show dad where he's from ...and strengthen the bonds you share. give dad ancestrydna for just $69-
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the post office again >> there was no collusion.
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no obstruction. the ig report yesterday went a long way to show that. i think that the mueller investigation has been totally discredited. >> certain actions taken by the fbi, intentionally or not helps the trump campaign and heard the clinton campaign. >>chris: president trump and chuck schumer drawing very different conclusions from the ig report this week on the clinton email investigation. it's time now for our sunday group. gop strategist, karl rove. fox news contributor gillian turner. jane harman and chris dire- -. was a different trey gowdy that
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we have heard because for weeks, months, he's been the one republican pushing back on other republicans and certainly the trump white house with rushing to judgment. the mueller investigation is fake. he pushed back on spy gate. today, he seemed to be saying the ig report and what it found in terms of rampant bias on the part of comey and peter strzok and others has blown the mueller investigation out of the water as far as it concerns president trump. >> i had a slightly different take. this was a very damaging report. to james comey, mccabe, peter strzok, and to generally the fbi itse. but, it raises questions about what the fbi did in 2016 with george papadopoulos and others in the trump campaign. at the end of it, in may 2017, the appointment of bob mueller. when he finds out days and weeks later, the text messages
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with peter strzok, he fires him. he removed him from his position as head of of the counterespionage agent. he has some details to human resources. as about the biggest emotion as you can possibly get.>>chris: when i asked trey gowdy about that he in effect said the fruit of all this is poison. the launch of the investigation was poisoned. that comey would be a main witness in any obstruction of justice case against president trump is fatally flawed.trey gowdy, i gave him opportunity and he didn't want to take it. >> i agree with him about comey. he's one of the biggest victims out of not only the ig reports but of this process. >>chris: i wouldn't say a victim.>> you're right. hegets what he deserves. what we have here , let's look into the question of collusion
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but there's never been any evidence. any presidential campaign leaks. the trump campaign leaks than worse than any i've seen. if there was any hint of collusion, we would have heard about it. at the end of the day, the mueller investigation will be judged by the report of the mueller investigation. we will make a judgment and my sense is it will clear the present of any question of collusion between his campaign and the russians and there will be people like paul manafort that have real liability and real legal problems because of their actions unconnected to the campaign. >>chris: i want to go back to that newly discovered text exchange between two fbi officials in august of 2016. that's lisa page and peter strzok. let's put on the screen. page, trumps not ever going to become president, right? peter strzok: no, no he won't. we will stop it. congresswoman harmon, you don't
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have to be a conspiracy theorist to say, that is pretty damaging. this is coming exactly at the point when the clinton campaign is ramping down, the clinton investigation is ramping down and the trump campaign investigation is ramping up. >> first, happy father's day. it is very damaging. comey's actions, all three of his press events in 2016 were inappropriate and wrong. the ig nailed him on and should have. yes he is a compromised witness. all that is right. but let's understand, there are two different investigations. one was the investigation and what the ig looked at with the clinton emails and what happened in 2016. the second is, mueller's investigation.i agree with carl that that investigation is a different one. trey gowdy went out of hisway
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to say it should be completed . >>chris: he said in terms of prussian interference. he wasn't talking about collusion or obstruction. >> i hope there is no collusion or obstruction but i think we should let the investigation conclude and find out what mueller knows. while some people are impugning mueller, i certainly would in most members wouldn't. he had an exemplary run as the head of the fbi and u.s. attorney before that. he was nominated by immigrants and republicans right around 9/11. i worked closely with them . the last comment about the fbi, this isn't the first strange event at the fbi. i had my own event which was very strange with the fbi. my view is yes, there need to be changes at the fbi but christopher wray seems to be a responsible leader and will take in a better direction. >>chris: how big a deal is this
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to hear trey gowdy who's been a pretty honest broker suddenly really change his opinion about the mueller investigation and president trump's potential legal liability? >> i suspect trey gowdy will do the same thiith the mueller investigation that he rightly did with the ig report which is wait for the work to be concluded and then render judgment after that fact. i heard him definitely saying it was time to wrap up but i also heard a guy that said he did not express concern about mueller. but i definitely heard . anybody who's attached to the comey administration at the fb , if you're of that leadership bubble up there, you better not be part of what comes out at the end with mueller. his findings have to rise above the decrepitude of comey and his team. it has to be better than that. >>chris: i want to pick up on another point that trey gowdy made.
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something i didn't know about and i don't think has been reported that there was this bigmeeting on friday night between house leadership in the top leadership , rod rosenstein and christopher wray . fbi, doj, and they put the word to the justicedepartment and said, you produce these documents or we will go to the floor and take serious action to force you to comply with our subpoenas . >> that's right. a quick word if i may on the peter strzok/page texts. i've been scouring the intelligence community all week on this story. over and over agaiat i hear is those few text messages that you highlighted have been more damaging than anything that's transpired so far and the mueller investigation and are probably going to be more damaging than anything that could come out in theuture. it's something that i think is causing a lot of, causing people to pause and reflect upon their service. when it comes to the inspector
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general's report, there's an uncomfortable reality buried in the inspector general's report for the trump administration which is that they got five of the most - - unfilled positions. department of homeland curity, department of defense, even white house inspector general position is currently vacant. every time they log criticism against the obama administration for the way they policed themselves, it highlights that they are choosing not to police themselves at all. at least not until now. >>chris: your reaction to gaudi and reaction that house republicans leadershipis fed up . >> christopher wray and the fbi
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need to be responsive to the will of congress. they have oversight on the department of justice and fbi. it's astonishing that these request for documents have been stonewalled, delayed. ignored and the speaker was right and the house is right. i don't understand. christopher wray has a chance to make a clean break with comey and can do so by being forthcoming. i hope to god they are forthcoming in the next few hours. >>chris: up next, president trump defends the deal he made with kim jong-un saying it's made the world safer. democrats say he gave up a lot without getting much in return. we will talk to senator jack reed about those concerns, and.
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>> a look at action a cocktails golf club in southhampton, new york. home of this year's u.s. open. the singapore summit between president trump and kim jong-un produced stunning and surprising pictures. what about the substance? did the two leaders resolve differences that could lead to a nuclear confrontation? joining me is jacket, the top democrat on the armed services committee. welcome back to "fox news sunday". >> thanks chris. >>chris: president trump says north korea is no longer a nuclear threat and on friday he added this.
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>> i have solved that problem. we are getting it memorialized but that problem is largely solved. >>chris: senator, your reaction. >> north korea is a nuclear threat. what he said was absolutely preposterous. north korea has between - - nuclear weapons. they have muscles that can deliver those two south korea, japan, guam. they have an infrastructure of nuclear laboratories and testing facilities, etc. this issue is just beginning to be dealt with. >>chris: the president acknowledges that although he clearly is more optimistic than you are that it will get settled. north korea has suspended its nuclear bomb and missile tests for months. it has destroyed one of its main testing facilities. the two sides are talking at the highest level. would you concede that president trump has dramatically reduced tensions between the two countries? >> i think initially, he helped elevate the tensions. fire and fury.
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the demeaning twitter views about kim jong-un, etc. i think the path to diplomacy and is the wiser one. i commend him for that. but the meeting itself was a great victory for kim jong-un. he got the prestige of being the first leader of north korea to be embraced by the president of the united states. his record of mistreating and human rights violations was ignored. the regime and his staff did very well at putting it together. given the lack of - - enforcement. guarantees about the security of north korea which the president seem to imply. is different than the maximum pressure campaign he's put on. then conceded without any other quid pro quo the exercises we
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conduct with the south koreans which i think is a mistake. the president chose to call them provocative wargames which are not the case at all. so at the end of that summit, kim jong-un walked away with a great deal and we are just now beginning to put together, put it back together. >>chris: the top democrat in the senate armed services committee. the president agreed to suspend joint literary exercises between south korea and the united states. he did say if north korea drags its feet, he can resume.how big a deal is that?>> it is a big deal. it's a complete surprise to our allies. the south koreans and the japanese. they are very concerned. second, it's part of our determined not wargames but deterrence of the north koreans. if this goes for a long period of time, operationally, we will
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lose the skills we need to collaborate with our colleagues in the region. i think it was interesting that the chinese were the first to report the successionof these exercises and i think they will take a great deal of comfort fromt . chris: president trump announced friday he is imposin , stiff new tariffs on china effective july 6. here he is. >> we are going to do $50 billion on $50 billion of high-technology equipment and other things coming into the country. >>chris: china responded quickly that it is going to respond. it's going to retaliate with tariffs on u.s. farm products. crude oil, u.s. cars. senator, are we now in a trade war with china, >> itlooks looks that way but i think the president is right
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in calling out china. they have abuse in many respects the free-trade arrangement that has been built up over generations. companies compete in china or international companies as they are allowed to another countries. they have used the trade system to their advantage. the president is right in taking action. the question is, are these actions coordinated? i don't think so. before he left for the singapore summit, he had a difficult meeting with the g-7. he's not going into this trade battle with china with a unified effort by the western powers. second, i think a lot of his judgment seems to be snap judgments. he impose tariffs on countries aiming at china and he wound up hitting canada and other countries where we have not only trade relationships but very strong national security relationships. the methods i think he employs in many cases are counterproductive. to the trade war issue, we could be approaching such a
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war. >>chris: gaining interest and concern by the moment, the issue of families at the border being separated. let's put up a statistics. in the first six weeks after the admission launched its zero tolerance policy, we now find out 1995 minors were separated illegally. here is president trump's explanation. >> that's so far and that's what the democrats gave us and we are willing to change it today if they want to get in and negotiate but they don't want to negotiate. >>chris: your reaction to the policy and the impact it's having in terms of separating these families? >> it's not the law. it's the president's policy. he has stated, it's been reported that he's using it as a negotiation tool.
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he's using it to intimidate, so theydon't come across the bord. he's using as a political ploy so it's not the law. to say it's law is misrepresenting the facts . >>chris: let me ask you about two aspects of them. in terms of trying to deter families from coming across the border, they are coming across illegally. what's wrong with that? >> we should come and we've tried in the past to develop comprehensive immigration reform which would secure the border. we can't have a border that's open. but it also recognizes individuals here for many years and provides a much more effective process of people seeking asylum if people are trying to legitimately come into the united states. we have to protect our borders. i think it's repugnant to most americans when you have people like doctor franklin graham condemning the separations as abhorrent to core american values.>>chris: the son of
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billy graham. let me ask you the other aspect because it has been suggested, this is a negotiating ploy. the argument is the president has suspended ca program and he has imposed this policy to bring democrats like yourself to the table to create a grand bargain. he will stop this policy, he'll provide protection for the dreamers but in return, the democrats will give him the border wall and limits on legal immigration. visa lottery and chain migration. >> i don't think americans would like to see children 2-4 years old, torn away from parents as a negotiating ploy in washington d.c.. i think that's the american view. there are other ways to negotiate between republicans and democrats. using young children as political foils is abhorrent. >>chris: are you said you would
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not agree to a deal? >> i am think this is repugnant to most americans. we have leaders of the community leaders like doctor graham speaking out. that sends a strong signal. there are ways we can negotiate. we had, a few months ago, we sought a deal with the president with respect to some enhancement of border security including stretches of the wal . in return, the daca dreamers would be allowed to stay. - - he just sort of walked away from it. to use children in this way, to me, is something frankly, that's not what we are about in this country. >>chris: senator reid, thank you.always good to talk with you. coming up, our sunday group returns to discuss the showdown over immigration. will the parties resolve their will the parties resolve their difference ahh... summer is coming.
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you haven't had any rocket shot in the air for seven months. they just blew up there testified. >> this is the weakest statement i've ever seen it come out of engagement with north korea. >>chris: the top democrat bob menendez questioning president trump's positive assessment of the nuclear deal he struck with north korea's kim jong-un. we are back with the panel to congresswoman harmon, how do you assess the singapore summit? what is a plus and minuses? >> it was a made for tv moment. there were two big images. one was at the g-7 with the president sitting like this glaring at angela merkel and the second one shaking hands with kim jong-un and saluting
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in return to a north korean general. how i assess it, i think it's a short-term propaganda when for kim. he got almost everything he wants. jackie just said that. but i think if you just makes no more threats and doesn't test again, he's gotten away with becoming a nuclear nation. being recognized by the world and i think it will be more economic advantages. i think china will trade when we won't punish china for trading with north korea. i think just yay him. there are two winners. one is china which has much more of an advantage in asia now that we are suspending our exercises and possibly reducing or eliminating our troops in south korea. the other one is russia because of what we did with the g-7 and
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the new tariff plan. europe is destabilized and that gives russia huge advantages with the ukraine and syria and parts of the middle east. >>chris: jillian, as someone who worked on the national security council for president bush and president obama, president trump seems confident he got a deal from kim to give up his nuclear weapons, even if that isn't spelled ouin the final agreement. the joint agreement they signed. do you share the president confidence? >> i share the hope and optimism. not necessarily his confidence because i think the matter what is said now, time will tell. one thing to point out. in the wake of this summit, it seems the response is breaking along political lines much like it did to president obama's
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overtures to the iran regime. when it comes down to policy matters here, there's one major challenge the trump administration is facing that president obama didn't have to deal with in 2012-14 that's north korea's continued super aggressive gray zone warfare in cyberspace. i've been speaking to cyber expert was a during the lead up to the summit, even as the summit was ongoing, north korea sponsored hackers were infiltrating u.s. banks, financial institutions and carrying out attacks on them. this is something that is not yet dealt with. they may be able to get to some kind of do neutralization deal without addressing that but it will ultimately fall apart if the top of the station can confront this had on. >>chris: let's turn to the other subject and that is the separation of families coming across the border which i think is fair to say, is sparking growing outrage as we now learn almost 2000 miners were separated from their adult parents as they came across the border.
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in the first six weeks after the president and his administration announced a zero-tolerance policy. it was the president on this this week. >> they are all saying about separang the families. that's a democrat bill. that's demowanting to do that and they could solve it easily by getting together but they think it's a good election point. >>chris: what do you think of the separation of families? the zero-tolerance and what's come from it. and as it's apparently being used by the top administration as leverage to get the democrats to negotiate a bigger deal on immigration. >> let's take the politics and then go to policy. there's a new harvard pole that says give the dreamers, they can remain here and have a path to citizenship in return for which, thereis increased , use american rather than family connections but eliminate
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lottery and found the border wall. that deal gets better than 2:1. in favor of it. at the end of this, the president's position but i will give you the dreamers and the path to citizenship in return for these three things. has the support of the american people. the administration is on firm ground when he's not on as firm ground when it comes to his description of the detention of minors and separation from families. this is being driven by the justice department for zero-tolerance point that is to say anybody that comes across the border is now going to be charged. it used to be the policy if you came across the border, if you were a mexican, you were removed out of the country. now they will charge the mexicans with an immigration violation. that makes it impossible for them to enter legally in the future to work or become a citizen. the administration had taken the policy and rather than
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taking otm's, he would hold them and move them out within 30-35 days. now, you have to hold these people into the whole process of charging them,litigating in court, finding them guilty or not and processing them of the out of the country. we only have two facilities in which you can put families intact.we used to have a big facility in texas but the courts made us in essence, restricted and then obama closed it down. >>chris: where are we on the idea that somehow this policy, which is sparking a lot of growing outrage is going to be a defective tool for the trump administration to use to bring democrats to the negotiating table? >> my hope is, the democrats will not get stuck on trying to win that argument. they will not convince him this was the wrong thing to do. they ought to find a way to resolve the situation which is, provided an opportunity for the dreamers.
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this is incumbent upon the republicans in the house. the dreamers get a path to citizenship and get to remain here and there are changes on the other side including money forthe border wall . we have a wall along 600 miles of the board. it needs to be replaced and upgraded. that's primarily what the president is talking about. he's given up on building a wall at the top of the canyon with a mac border is 1500 feet in the air. he's talking about a limited wall, maybe a couple dozen miles more than we now have but upgrading it to make it modern and repairing it. >>chris: it strikes me that the president is in a politically risky position. one to the degree he keeps the separation going i will ask you, does he get blamed for this or do democrats get blamed and if he were to get a deal, which would include the amnesty or citizenship for the dreamers
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and a lot of hard-line conservatives will call that amnesty. that has downside for him too? >> he is in a box with his own base. republicans can't agree on anything.their real problem is they can't come to terms amongst themselves about what legislation.e immigration paul ryan, they just totally faced paul ryan. he avoided a discharge petition which would be rebellion among the members of the house. paul ryan defeats this and he says okay boys would hang together because people, with legislation next week. and then the president goes and dumps on it. we're not going to do that badly the white house tries to clean itup and say, what the president meant to mean was this. in any >>chris: in any case, the president is going to capitol hill to work this out. >> they've got to do a deal. until republicans can agree on what they think immigration
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policy will look like, amongst themselves. the democrats are off the hook. republicans have to finish their own work first to. >>chris: 64 percent of republicans believe dreamers should remain and apply for citizenship. 77 percent of independents. 79 percent of americans overall. >>chris: will democrats be separation of families or do they see this as a political benefit for them? >> i don't believe anybody wants these kids to be pawned. - - tried to pursue in florida where they had a summit. the push factor comes from central america. mexico should police its southern border better but these kids and migrants are coming from central america with his rampant corruption and
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danger to their families. >>chris: so clean up the situation at home. whcome back, lord stanley comes to washington. finally.
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>> while our trip last week to singapore was fascinating, the downside was we missed being in dc for the washington capitals
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victory celebration. on tuesday, the streets rocked the red while the newly minted district of champions held a parade. washington's first major sports title in 26 years. days before, - - and the capitals made franchise history, eating the vegas goal tonight in game five of the stanley cup finals. - - and his teammates wasted the cup along constitution avenue. headed for a rally in t of the capital. some 100,000 fans celebrated the victory. 44 years in the making. doing it peacefully with no arrests. just possibly showing our nation's leaders what could be accomplished when everybody rules together. we congratulate owner ted - - and the city of washington on the victory. now let's do it again next
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