tv Americas Newsroom With Bill Hemmer and Sandra Smith FOX News June 22, 2018 6:00am-9:00am PDT
>> how great was that? one of the biggest, best crowds. have a great weekend. lynyrd skynyrd, you guys are awesome. >> bill: the reaction today coming in from all corners of the country after the passing of our friend and our colleague charles krauthammer. he died yesterday at the age of 68 two weeks after writing an eloquent letter to us all stating in a way only he could. my final verdict. my fight is over. that fight ended today but not without a lot of reflection. good morning, everybody. it's friday and i'm bill hemmer. a big welcome to you. whole new show and formt. blasts off like a rocket ship. >> a lot to talk about including this. i'm heather childress in for
sandra smith. today we're remembering the life and legacy of the brilliant and beloved dr. charles krauthammer. he overcame adversity with a prolific career and a contributor here at fox news. we all knew him as a fixture on the special report panel where his witt and honesty is the reason why viewers tuned in each and every night. >> the biggest error that we make is to lose the damn war because we refuse to recognize who the enemy is and what it requires. why do you have to talk about that? the morning is over, the -- if you're a conservative you should be optimistic. it will snow in hell before the d.o.j. will go after her. we were all expecting it and it didn't happen. the dark that didn't bark. >> bill: last night an empty chair on the special report panel where he sat for more than a decade. we listened and learned.
jonah goldberg fox news contributor, i know you were close to him. i know you shared a lot of time with him. tell us the story. >> well, it's so hard to do because -- it's funny, from the outside when you watch dr. krauthammer, when you watch charles on tv or read his column britt was making this point last night as well. there was always -- i've said all these things to his face. there was a dr. strange love kind of dark, you know, harshness to his appearance for a lot of people because he was so blisteringly smart and so blunt and so surgical in his analysis that it would sometimes seem like he didn't have a lot of feelings. he was just giving this dispassionate analysis. but then when you actually saw him in the greenroom here at fox or you saw him elsewhere over a meal or anything like
that, all of that melted away and he was this unbelievably happy warrior. and one of the ways -- i'm not a huge baseball fan but the single best way i ever knew whether or not a national game was playing on a given night was by seeing how happy charles was when he came blazing into the studio or into the greenroom in his wheelchair because he would be chewing gum with his nationals hat on and like a giddy little kid. i was like there must be a game tonight. he was always in this unbelievably happy mood knowing the second he was done with the panel he was going to go blazing out of the garage here in that sort of bat mobile thing of his and go to the baseball game. when i talk to -- washington is full of people who at the end of their lives at the goodbye, at their funerals and memorial services people will read really impressive resumes. and charles has among the most
impressive resumes of anybody you'll ever meet. but his life wasn't about his resume. it was about -- it will end with the eulogy you speak well of the man himself. he was one of the most decent, compassionate, glorious men is the only way i can put it people i've met in my entire life. he cared deeply about people and did unbelievable small kindnesses for people that you wouldn't think someone of his prominence and schedule never mind his physical condition could do. he cared passionately about people and relationships. truly one of the most wonderful people i've ever known. >> bill: i want to set you up with two things here. first of all when he explains to brett how has life changed at age 22. here is how he described the moment of impact physically. >> this is not a man designed for television. you say this is not a potential tv star. he became a huge star even a mega star on this channel. and it was the cheer force of
his intellect and the power of his thinking. and on top of that, there was a gentleness about him personally that if he disagreed with you you never felt attacked, he just disagreed with you. >> it hit at precisely the angle when all the force was transmitted to one spot and that is the cervical vertebra which severed the spinal cord. >> when did you realize the accident was life altering. >> the second it happened. >> bill: in his letter he said this. i leave this life with no regrets. it was a wonderful life, full and complete with the great loves and endeavors that make it worth living. i'm sad to leave but leave with the knowledge i live the life i intended. that clarity of thought. that power of a brilliant mind, jonah, is what compelled him forward. >> that's absolutely true. one of the things that made his
life possible is that he as a sheer act of human will decided to accept the tragedy of his accident and just put it behind him and make the best out of his life. what an impressive life he made. it's funny, on special report every now and then i sometimes will crack a joke and it became this thing where the most important thing to me on being on the panel was to get charles to laugh and get it on camera in part because it was one of the only things i could ever do on tv that would make my mom gush with pride. you made charles laugh. and it became this thing with us where i always tried to get him to crack up and hopefully to do it on camera. it was never stated. i was never saying here comes charles. he was just this -- he was this guy who -- look, charl murray
is a close friend of mine and done a lot of work on iq and intelligence and charles always said in terms of raw cognitive ability, charles krauthammer may have been the smartest person he ever met. and yet when you go back on charles, for me at least i'm not full of memories of how smart the guy was. of course he was smart. the memories for me was how happy and contented and how brilliantly he carved out a life in full for himself despite all of the burdens in his way. and for that i'm just grateful to have known him in my life and i want to say one thing, though, i really hope a lot of my friends and colleagues on the right who are now in this sort of say anything conceivably possible no matter how nasty and vicious it is, so long as it makes liberals angry seems to be one of the motivating passions on the right among a lot of my friends these days. it is destroying conservatism.
that wasn't charles. all the people who are celebrating his life and contribution, maybe they should take a few seconds and think about how he modeled a different way. he never gave an inch when he was on principle or when he thought he was right, but he wasn't vicious and cruel. he didn't mock children with downs syndrome who are in a cage. he didn't do anything like that that we see so much of on the right these days. he was a decent man who took the higher road even though he was in a wheelchair. >> bill: thank you, jonah. more on the life of charles. steven hayes, and bret baier we'll welcome our colleagues and friends during or broadcast for the next 2 hours. we all have a story and anecdote. >> that line you used, i lived the life i intended. how many of us can say that? something to think about. some other stories we're
following. house republicans punting on immigration delaying a vote on a compromised measure until next week after a conservative bill was defeated yesterday. president trump and other top republicans laying the blame at the democrats' doorstep. jeff paul is live near the border in texas. we begin with peter doocy who is live on capitol hill with the latest from there. good morning, peter. >> good morning, heather. the immigration bill that is now in limbo had the full 25 billion for a border wall that president trump wants. so house republican leaders thought having president trump come to the capitol and dhs secretary come to the capitol would do the trick. house republican leaders misjudged their members and initially told reporters they only needed one extra day to rally the troops. that apparently wasn't going to be enough. >> we're going to put this vote off until next week. and this will give us time to
work out our differences. we have a lot of different factions in our conference. but this is one of the better if not best conferences i've been to where everybody is trying to come together as a team so we can get to 218 and get it across the finish line. >> so the more moderate immigration bill that leaders like was going to finish short another signal that leaders may not have their fingers on the pulse of their conference. the more conservative vote was given a vote as a courtesy finished with a dozen more votes than anyone expected. it was known as the goodlatte bill. it doesn't give a pathway to citizenship to daca recipients and got 193 gop votes. despite that, democrats do not plan to forge ahead with anything bipartisan. >> they have never ever been interested. sometimes you all repeated that it's a compromise. it is not a compromise. it may be a compromise with the
devil but not with the democrats in terms of what they have in their bill. >> president trump says maybe they should wait until they elect more members of the house and senate on the republican side. >> bill: a new report that hundreds of migrant children have been reunited with their children since may. jeff paul has the latest. good morning. >> we're expecting yet another demonstration here at the point of entry. two u.s. senators are expected to come here and bring attention to lawmakers not only about what is going on inside these youth immigrant shelters but try to go out there and possibly get inside. a group of mayors tried to enter the gates yesterday and we were right there with them following them. they confronted police. >> this is as close as the federal government allowed us to get to the tent cities set up to house those immigrant kids and if you take a look over here you see a big group of reporters as well as many
mayors that have come here basically to the border to try to get in and see what's going on beyond this fence. you can see some of the homeland security officers are out here watching guard but again we have not been allowed to get into the tents to see with our own eyes what is happening in there. >> we're learning that on monday we might get a chance to go inside that tent facility and see what it is like. there will be no cameras allowed. >> bill: jeff paul back on the border today. what's next? >> first lady making a surprise visit to a children's shelter in texas, not without some commentary about her wardrobe choice. texas lieutenant governor dan patrick joins us live. >> bill: president trump has a message on immigration. what he is saying about that already today. check it out. >> president trump: we have to have a very tough policy otherwise you have millions of people pouring into our country. we can't have that. we have no choice. we have to have a very strong border. if we don't you'll have millions and millions of people and look what is happening
>> i'm here to learn about your facility and know you have children on a long-term basis. and i also like to ask you how it can help to reunite with the families. >> bill: that from the first lady clearly visiting texas meeting with children and workers during that visit. texas lieutenant governor dan patrick is sitting in studio now. nice to see you in new york. what do you think her visit did for this yesterday? >> i think it was very powerful in terms of it showed the white house, the first family cares about these people, which i know the president -- i don't know melania, i know the president very well. they care about these kids. i thought it was powerful message for her to come. >> bill: per year along the
four-state border, how many apprehensions do you have? >> here is a number. thank you for asking me this question because every time i hear someone from the left say we have 11 million people in this country illegally, it really bothers me. that was the number that the u.s. chamber of commerce gave in 2004, even the pew hispanic research center in 09 said it was 11 million. we apprehend from brownsville to san diego and texas has 2/3 of the apprehensions, 400,000 people every year over the last five years. on average. we're down this year. the high mark was in 2014. we think -- no one knows for sure. we think we get one out of every five. that means a million to a million half take the low or high number get in every year. since 2004, if the number was 11 million then we're somewhere around 25 or 30 million. >> bill: that makes the daca issue more complicated.
how much has washington, d.c. failed on this issue, republican, democrat, take your pick. >> i've said for a long time i blame both parties. republicans had a chance around 2005-2006. obama had a chance and didn't get it done. today the democrats are clearly the obstructionists. charles schumer says i won't vote on any bill when pelosi says i'm not negotiating, well then, we aren't going to make any progress. now it's up to the republicans to do it on their own. i would like to see the senate change the filibuster rule. we did that in texas. we had a similar situation where the democrats could block anything. >> bill: the white house feels the same and the president sent a message today move on. we'll tackle this after the mid-terms. how about that position? >> hopefully we'll pick up more seats. i think we will. the democrats think it is a positive for them. it's a negative. america doesn't like obstructionists and america understands we have to have a
secure border. they're coming in waves. i heard someone from the white house the other day say we can't detain them or separate them or prosecute them or deport them. so what are we supposed to do? , open the door and that's what the left wants. by the way, of these children and teenagers that we're talking about, over 70% came here on their own. 40,000 this year by themselves. you just cannot accept -- i've been on the border many times. you can't accept these are the real parents. the drug cartels control the border and make as much money or a lot of money as smuggling people as much as they do drugs. so they'll send these families in, extort a lot of money and send these families in to take up a lot of border patrol and they smuggle the drugs in the other direction or the other people paying them more. the drug cartels are looking at america and laughing. the president is right on this. no one wanted to separate these kids. he followed the law. obama did the same thing. that's in the past.
we need to move forward. >> bill: very well stated. >> we have to stoipt. >> bill: i get it. do you think they have the will? do you think they have the desire? if you are blaming democrats for some time. >> i'm blaming both. >> bill: democrats may hold it as a political issue for the mid-terms. do you see this being solved? will you be back here in five years talking about the same thing? >> lord, i hope not. it is costing texas and everyone in the country billions of dollars and the crime that comes with it. i've been watching the last two days in new york the stories about charles krauthammer. it is time for statesmen and gentlemen in congress and people bigger than themselves. when you get elected your biggest responsibility is to hour state but you have to be bigger than yourselves and you have a responsibility to the country. this is terrible for our country. i love to see paul ryan call
mitch mcconnell. let the republicans pass it and we'll put an end to it if you can get rid of the filibuster bill. >> heather: it is deadline day for the department of justice. paul ryan threatening to hold rod rosenstein in contempt of congress if the d.o.j. doesn't hand over documents related to the russia and clinton email probe. so will the department comply? alan dershowitz is in studio. >> bill: we'll remember the life and legacy and the brilliance of our friend, charl krauthammer throughout the day. >> it's my job to call a folly a folly. you are betraying your whole life if you don't say what you think. and you don't say it honestly and bluntly. it's just a burst pipe, i could fix it. (laugh) no. with claim rateguard your rates won't go up just beacuase of a claim. i totally could've... (wife) nope! switching to allstate is worth it.
>> you are betraying your whole life if you don't say what you think and you don't say it honestly and bluntly. >> do you think you will ever start writing? >> no, i intend to die at my desk. i would like to. i'm not sure i can arrange it. >> heather: people from all over the nation remembering an intellectual giant, long time fox news contributor charles krauthammer, including many of our nation's leaders and former president george w. bush saying this. for decades charles's words have strengthened our democracy. his work was far reaching and influential and while his voice will be deeply missed his ideas and values will always be a part of our country. steve hayes is the editor in chief of the weekly standard and fox news contributor. steve, thank you very much for joining us. difficult day for so many. can you share with us one of your favorite stories involving charles? >> sure.
good morning, heather. charles was such a delight to be on the panel with and back in the early days of my time on special report we would do the panel three times a week together and we would talk together for a half hour, 45 minutes before the panel started and then we would continue on the panel and charles and i had some differences during the 2012 republican primary. he was i think a little bit more favorably disposed to mitt romney i was a more tea party friendly conservative and liked the arguments newt gingrich was making. we had one debate in particular during the primaries charles went first and whoever was in the middle went second and i went third. i made the mistake of leaving charles just five seconds or so to come back at me after i finished my comment with a response and charles absolutely destroyed my argument with one sentence. and about a week later we had a
similar argument and charles went first and i went -- somebody went second and i went third and i knew what charles would do if i left him any time. so i deliberately started speaking very, very slowly as i was giving my answer so as to not leave him even an extra second or two. and as i was doing this he knew exactly what i was doing and looked down the panel at me and just started laughing while i was in the middle of my answer. so it was a pretty funny exchange. we finished, went to commercial break and looked at me and said you have learned from the master. indeed i did learn frr the master. >> heather: i understand some of the best moments on the panel were actually in the commercial breaks as well because that's when, you know, you guys got to experience his sense of humor, something that people at home didn't necessarily get to experience. >> right, exactly. you know, it's easy for our viewers to see just how
brilliant charles krauthammer is and how articulate he was. he spoke in perfect paragraphs. his thoughts were clear and it was as if he were saying the thoughts in your own head as often as not. and he will be remembered for that. i will remember him even more for two other reasons. he was such a good man. and in washington, d.c. these days, i regret to say there aren't enough good men. and in that sense he was truly a role model for me. and as a friend charles was just -- we spent those hours and hours and hours together chatting before the panel started back in his back office in the washington bureau. and we just became very, very good friends. and i've missed over this past year have missed his counsel on a personal and professional
level. and it will leave a big hole in my life not having him around to talk to. >> bill: i think the way he looked at life is absolutely fascinating. life for him was a moving target and always evolving, right? liberal to conservative, psychiatry to political commentary, to writing and so forth and he did not move in a straight line with one exception. that was the power of this man's mind. >> yeah. >> bill: that's what enabled him to keep moving forward at age 22 and beyond. to graduate with his medical class on time at harvard. to lay the example for so many that were lucky enough to be touched by him, steve. >> you are absolutely right. what was also extraordinary, i knew him and i knew him very well for a decade. and obviously i knew what had happened, i knew about his accident, and he didn't shy
away from talking about it but he didn't also force it into conversations. and i remember having one conversation in particular with him about where he is almost casual about it, if that makes sense. it might sound odd to folks. we were standing in the makeup room. charles was a huge movie buff. i think he has seen every movie every made in every language. he watched movies endlessly. and when we were talking in the makeup room he asked if i had seen the movie called "sliding doors." a movie in which a woman is away from her apartment. she makes the subway train in one scenario and gets home and finds out her husband is having and affair and her life takes one path. and in the second scenario she misses that same subway and doesn't make it home and doesn't find out her husband is having an affair and her life takes quite a different path. she is happier in the scenario where she finds out where the unfortunate thing happens where
it's more difficult at the time. charles said to me, he said that's kind of how i look at this. my life was going to take one of two paths. this is what happened and this is my life and i'm going to make the most of it. pretty amazing attitude to have towards something like that. >> bill: thank you, steve. steven hayes there. we'll see you soon in person. >> heather: charles krauthammer died at the age of 68 after, as we've said over and over a simply remarkable life. stay with us here on "america's newsroom." we'll be right back.
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good morning. >> good morning. while republicans on the hill struggle with their own internal divisions over the immigration reform issue right now, they may have just as big a problem at the white house. the president tweeted this morning that the republicans cannot pass immigration reform at least until the mid-term elections and he suggested that they stop wasting their time from the tweet now. even if we get to 100% republican votes in the senate we need 10 democrat votes to get an immigration bill. the dems are obstructionists who won't give votes for political reasons and they don't care about crime coming from the border. we need to elect more rs, he said. republicans had been hoping a strong push from the president might propel one of these two immigration bills now under consideration in congress over the top but it was not to be. the president's visit to capitol hill on tuesday was well received but it wasn't enough. mr. trump canceled the congressional picnic at the white house even though the steaks were placed on the grill
the day before. a sign that may have signaled slim hope for immigration reform in a divided congress. adding to the intrigue first lady's visit to the shelter for unaccompanied minors in mcallen, texas. people have been trying to read into the meaning of the jacket. the words i really don't care, do you? the president tweeted late yesterday it refers to the fake news media. melania has learned how dishonest they are and she no longer cares. the first lady's spokesperson had a different take on the meeting. stephanie grisham said it's a jacket, there was no hidden message in it at all. congressional paralysis notwithstanding mr. trump's executive order still stands in place and it requires parents be detained with their children. it also mandates the construction of new facilities
and the prioritization of adjudicating their cases as quickly as possible. bill, back to you. >> bill: doug mcelway from the north lawn. >> heather: for more on this let's bring in former arkansas governor mike huckabee and the host of huckabee on trinity broadcasting network where he will have an exclusive interview with president trump on saturday night. look forward to that. immigration obviously something that he will talk about as well. i want to bring up first of all this magazine cover from "time" magazine if people have seen it. you have the young girl 2 years old and then you have president trump looking down at her. the problem is, "time" magazine is trying the talk about all these children separated from their families and it turns out this child the daily mail was able to talk to her father in honduras. she was never separated from her mother but yet you have this on "time" magazine. >> i think it's clear to say, heather, our entire system is broken. government is broken, they
can't pass an immigration bill because they want to fight over the minor details rather than take care of the big issue. the news media is completely broken. they are missing big stories and then they are making up stuff. this is a great example of what the president calls fake news. you take a 2-year-old girl, you super impose a picture that never happened, donald trump never looked down on this little girl. turns out she was never separated from her family at all. this is why america i think is just disgusted and fed up with the manner in which our country is headed. >> heather: it does seem dishonest and then in terms of where the country is headed we keep talking about well, you need to work with us, you need to work with us. here is what chuck schumer had to say. he said president trump is the one that bears responsibility. listen. >> congress getting it done, not going to solve the problem unfortunately because immigration is such a contentious and divisive issue. the president has to do it
himself. let us hope he does. >> heather: well, they wanted these families to not be separated. he did that. but then that wasn't good enough. what is it that they really want? >> they just want to make sure donald trump doesn't solve any problems. let's remind ourselves that the democrats owned the whole thing a few years ago. they had the white house, both houses of congress and could have fixed immigration. they didn't even try. they didn't even try. and then even when we had a divided congress they never put a bill out there and said let's fix it and do this. they didn't really care. this is a political stunt for them, not about kids. it is about power and that's one of the things that i find so disgusting is that in the name of caring about children, what they really care about is their own political fortunes. their own political positions and i find that really disgusting. >> heather: i find it interesting that several of these same political leaders were there during president obama when this same type of
thing was happening but now they are acting like this is the first time it's happened >> many of the pictures that we've seen, heather, are actually pictures from 2014 where children were wrapped in foil blankets, the temporary blankets that you see and put in what could be called cages. and those pictures were not recent. they were not the ones during donald trump's administration. they were 4-year-old pictures when obama was president and i don't remember chuck schumer or any of the other democrats and i don't remember some of the anchors from other networks now who have invoked ridiculous terms like nazi and japanese internment camps, i don't remember a word from these folks during that period of time. you know why? they never said anything about it. that's why it proves that this is a phony outrage. but it is a dangerous outrage. it further divides the country and makes it more difficult to actually solve a problem that we all would like to see solved. >> heather: absolutely. i'm glad you said that.
no one likes these pictures of these children in those conditions. no one likes for them to have to be separated from their families. some would say they shouldn't come here in the first place or we should send them together back across the border. but the main thing is they don't need to just hear our leaders blame each other. they need some sort of action on it. and hopefully that will happen. >> well, heather, again, one of the facts getting overlooked of the 12,000 children separated from their parents, 10,000 of them were separated when the parents sent the kids unaccompanied to the border. the separation didn't happen at the border or at the hands of ice agents. it happened at the hands of their own parents who shipped them off to the border unaccompanied by their mothers or fathers. i'm not hearing that very much. and so it's really again disproportionate to the truth and that's unfortunate for all of us and makes it more difficult to solve the problem.
>> heather: we just heard lieutenant dan patrick saying 70% come here without their parents. thank you so much for joining us. we really appreciate it. >> bill: another story we're watching today. justice department running out of time. speaker ryan may subpoena rod rosenstein if he doesn't comply. alan dershowitz is next. >> heather: signs that north korea will dismantle its nuclear arsenal. a report on the progress so far. >> president trump: this could have been a catastrophe of 30, 40, 50 million people. i think we're very close to having that situation solved. alright, i brought in new max protein ...to give you the protein you need with less of the sugar you don't. i'll take that. [cheers] 30 grams of protein and 1 gram of sugar. new ensure max protein. in two great flavors.
congress. >> i expect them to comply. this is legitimate -- i'm concerned they've been dragging their feet over at the justice department giving congress. they could have spared a country a whole bunch of drama if they would have complied with the requests months ago when they were made in the first place. >> bill: alan dershowitz wrote "the case against impeaching trump." you know drama in the courtroom. thank you for coming back here. we'll get you back in new york very soon. what do you believe paul ryan will do in this matter? >> well look, there has never been a more important time for our system of checks and balances to operate. whether it be regarding the president's immigration policies or the mueller investigation or the clinton investigation. we need effective checks and balances and effective checks and balances requires that the executive branch, the justice department comply with legitimate subpoenas by conscious and if it's necessary
to issued a contempt order it should be done. it's rare for the legislature to hold a member of the executive in contempt but it has been done. then you have to go to court and get the court to enforce it. i think generally it's used as a sort thing to hold over the head of justice department officials and in the end they comply. i suspect that will happen here. we may see drama. they may say no. >> bill: these documents the hillary clinton clinton email, fisa application, why would the department of justice not want to surrender that paperwork? >> well, in my long experience with these matters, when the government claims national security much of the time it's to avoid embarrassment. there are not really national security secrets involved. for example, they failed to turn over the smoking gun strzok communication in which he said we'll stop the election
of president trump. that wasn't turned over. there is no national security there there. it was just because it was incredibly embarrassing and hard to believe the story they found one of the messages but they didn't find the more important one. so i think it's important for congress to enforce their request, their demands and indeed their subpoenas for this kind of information because the public has the right to know. even if there are materials that are national security congress has the right to see those subject to a secrecy and a decision has to be made when and how much to reveal to the general public. >> bill: two minutes, two questions, two topics, i'm dying to get your answer on this. it's been a week since the i.g. report came out last friday. do you see any legal problems for any individuals involved in that report? >> there are legal problems. i don't see any criminal problems. i'm in favor of decriminalizing
and stop weaponizing the criminal justice system. i didn't see any cause for criminal investigation and prosecution. certainly the revelation that comey was using his email in the manner in which he had criticized hillary clinton for using her email, that's worthy of further investigation by the i.g. and i think there are conflicts of interest that are worthy of investigation. i think the whole rosenstein issue is worthy of investigation. if mueller is looking at all at the comey firing, who was the main witness there? the main witness is the man who is investigating this and in charge of the investigation, rod rosenstein. so yes, legal but no criminal. >> bill: a quick answer here i'm out of time. i could talk to you for hours. does peter strzok make a good witness or is he compromised? >> he is very compromised and shouldn't be an f.b.i. agent. the fact that a high-ranking f.b.i. agent says he is going to stop a legitimate election.
i tried to stop the election of trump by voting against him and contributing to hillary clinton. that's a legitimate way of stopping. when an f.b.i. agent sends a message that he will stop and has an insurance policy that has to be investigated. i don't know why he is still an f.b.i. agent. he should be fired. >> bill: he says he will testify and we'll see whether or not that happens. you'll be watching. thank you for your time. >> i'll be watching. he will try to say it was a joke, he didn't mean it seriously but has to be pressed very hard. >> bill: it's june in martha's vineyard. enjoy it. forever summer. >> heather: we'll dig deeper in the next hour. jim jordan is our headliner of the day and joins us to talk about this and a whole lot more in our next hour of "america's newsroom." stay with us. eep number 360 sma. it senses and automatically adjusts on both sides, for effortless comfort. for a limited time, save up to $500 plus free
>> heather: more than a week after president trump's summit with kim jong-un, north and south korean officials are meeting to discuss reunions for families separated by the korean war. greg palkot is live in london with that story. greg. >> the two sides coming together on this very emotional issue. delegations from north and south korea, including committees from the red cross meeting at the border announcing that some 200 family members, 100 from each side separated by the korean war would be reuniting in august. this is the first such gathering in just about three years. it is the result of the recent interkorean summit. 50,000 people remain alive and have been separated by the war and the division of the countries. other humanitarian issues taken up including the status of north korean defectors in the
south and south koreans still detained in the north. all this comes after word that the remains of some 200 u.s. service members lost also in the korean war could be handed over by north korea in the coming days, heather. >> heather: we were talking about when it will happen. there is more diplomacy involving south korean president moon. >> absolutely. south korean president moon is in moscow, three-day visit to russia. today he met with russian president vladimir putin. together they claimed close cooperation in their work towards the common goal of the complete denuclearization of the korean peninsula. there is some dispute whether that denuclearization has started yet. the president yesterday gave the impression it had. defense secretary mattis said he hasn't seen any indications yet. the state department are saying
there has been contact between north korea and the u.s. since the summit but they are not confirming some reports that we're seeing that secretary of state pompeo might be heading back to pyongyang in the coming days to keep this thing moving along. >> heather: we didn't know he went there when it began. it wouldn't surprise me. >> bill: now we get to the wardrobe controversy. first lady on the trip to the border. how the white house is responding on that today plus heaven is a far better place this morning as we remember the life of charles krauthammer. ♪ ♪ keep your most valuable insights hidden from your competitors. the ibm cloud. the cloud for smarter business.
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entresto, for heart failure. >> heather: today we are paying tribute to the life, the legacy of our colleague and dear friend dr. charles krauthammer who lost his brave battle with cancer. good morning, everyone. i'm heather childress in for sandra smith. >> bill: this man was a fighter. i'm bill hemmer. he had an impact on every one of us here and i'm certain he had an impact on you. a bit of a sampling how we feel about charles and how he felt around us. >> long-time syndicated columnist charles krauthammer has passed away. needless to say, all of us at fox news are devastated by that news. >> as we celebrate the life of charles krauthammer. >> he had this extraordinary
intellect. one that all of us admired and none of us thought we could ever come close to equaling. he was in a class by himself. he was extraordinarily kind and gentle and the combination made you love him and we did, all of us did. the audience did. you couldn't help it. >> the great gifts of my 20 plus years here at fox news channel was to become his friend. no mistaking what he meant. he argued almost always wholely on the level of principle. >> he used his mind to his fullest and made life better. >> he was the national umpire. he called balls and strikes if he thought that democrats were doing something wrong, he would call it and when he thought people on his side of the aisle conservatives were betraying what he thought were the right
principles he would call them out as well. >> he was able to put together the human side of life and have an appreciation for family and sports and all of those things that he talked about in things that matter, which i think is such a wonderful title to his book. >> it was really simple things that made him happy and he spent so much time making everyone around him happy. >> he was an amazing man. the way he handled death is an example to a lot of people. he handled it with class and eloquence that he really was. >> it is really an example for all of us now and forever. >> when i was totally unknown i could say anything i damn well pleased. >> it is my job to call a folly a folly. you are betraying your whole life if you don't say what you think and you don't say it honestly and bluntly. >> bill: here to help remember the life, remarkable life, juan
williams. ed henry and guy benson. heaven is a far better place today. why don't you guys just share with us. >> i have a story about profanity. it is like in the gutter but charles -- charles will be smiling about this one. he and i and juan all love baseball. every time i saw him in the washington bureau he would say what about the nationals and yankees? he would have dinner with the manager of the orioles. i had a chance to meet tommy lasorda. he said you know the greatest moment don't you? dave kingman beats the dodgers. a reporter comes up to lasorda and said what was your opinion of kingman's performance? he said my opinion? ffff basically for a minute half you can google it.
charles told me when i'm having a bad day i go to youtube and click on that and listen to tommy lasorda curse out a radio reporter for 90 seconds and he said i laugh my butt off. >> the funny thing about this is going to baseball with charles. because to go to baseball with charles meant that we get off "special report" around 7:00 and we're racing to get to the start of the nationals game. racing with charles meant getting in his car, which was a specially outfitted ford van, right? and i used to joke that it is not brit hume or bret baier or my car that's the most expensive car in the d.c. parking lot. it is his van. he got a new one a year ago. to get to the game you are trusting this guy who is a paraplegic driving through the streets of washington oh my gosh. then the payoff is this, he is good friends with ted learner who owns the team. he had the best parking spot in
the stadium. let's go, man. >> ed, your story reminded me of the column he wrote. in defense of the f word. it is so elegant but it was defending the f word. it is laugh out loud funny start to finish and i highly recommend it. i think words like brilliant and irreplaceable get thrown around a lot but they actually really applied to charles. i think a lot of our viewers appreciated his intellect and those of us who got to know him even a little bit more than that appreciated his uncommon kindness as a human being. i'll never forget one of the thrills and terrors of my career was first appearing with him on the "special report" panel that i had watched for years and admired him. i remember before the first panel thinking to myself how on earth can i measure up to this guy? and then i just had this
comfortingly simple answer, you couldn't. you can't. and you just had to do your best and he was unfailingly supportive and would give you tips and pointers and i was like the most junior guy in the bureau and he was engaging me almost as if i was an equal even though i wasn't. it meant so much. >> a young producer in the washington bureau. our viewers have never heard of her and she works her butt off and helps us all look good. you could have presidents like george w. bush write the tributes. she wrote a tribute that was writing. she said charles was up here in terms of legacy and everything. i'm here. and you would think he would look right past me. he stopped every night and talked baseball with me and they would talk about the lineup and talk about why did the manager put this guy in and take out zimmerman? she said he made me feel important. that's what he does and did. >> bill: our colleague bret
baier is joining us now by way of telephone. good morning to you. i don't know if our viewers fully realize the relationship you had with charles and the way you kept in contact with him and really, you helped us be guided through his process by the contact you had and well, we heard from you last night and now we get ready for a chance to say goodbye this weekend. >> yeah. it's a sad day, bill. good morning. and let me tell you this first of all, daniel krauthammer, charles' son and his wife, robin, have really been lifted up by these stories and these anecdotes and seeing the video and sound bites and they have said their goodbyes obviously and they are getting ready to formally do that. but they have really been lifted up and it has been a great thing for -- to see on
our air. you know, obviously i had a personal connection. he was my first baseman on the panel for almost 10 years and he was a guy who could cut through the noise. he didn't waste words. he was wise, but also had this humor. he was not the traditional one way or the other, didn't know how he would come down on some things. then he would write a column about tsa that would be don't touch my junk and you would die laughing. he just had this gift. and i think that there are very few people in our world today that have that, and i hope somebody can come close but i don't think anybody will be like charles krauthammer. >> bill: reminds me of the statement that our executive chairman of fox news and 21st century fox put out a week ago. he wrote charles has been a
profound source of personal intellectual inspiration for all of us at fox news and principled stand on the most important issues of our times and a guiding star in an often turbulent world. the world with too much superficial thinkers vulnerable to the ebb and flow of fashion and his words and his ideas and dignity and integrity will resonate within our society and me for many years to come. that goes to the essence of krauthammer, bret. it goes to the essence of murdoch when you think about the power of a contrarian thought. if you can express it, you can bring a lot of people around that think in a different way about life. >> even if you totally disagreed with him, you got to the end of his presentation as he was making it and you just nodded your head and said wow, i get how he got there and i appreciate it. and we do need more of that in
our world. i commend to the viewers this special tonight 9:00 p.m. eastern time in his words. and we obviously worked on it after we got word he was in his final days but it is really charles, and it is quintessential charles. and it's emotional but it is also his life in his way and i think it's really good. >> bill: we look forward to seeing that. thank you for calling in and sharing again more thoughts with us today. thank you. i've got a story. charles came to new york when he put out the book "all things matter." if i've told one person i've told 10,000 people this is where he was the night of the book event. to read the piece marcel, my brother, an obituary about his brother the day he died. remarkable stuff. the genius on power of the words that he used is extraordinary. i was the first one there that day, which i often do, and we
took a photo and there were these pictures on the wall across the room. we were having small talk. he stops me and said you see that photo right there? i look up. there is this guy walking on a beach and he is tall and strong, dark hair, handsome. it was taken from a hotel balcony looking down at the beach. he said that photo was the last picture taken of me before my accident. i said where was it? he said i was on the beach in bermuda. i was 22. but i finished graduating on time in medical school and that -- talk about a hook, wow. >> how do you follow that up? >> the thing about him, we think about him and i see the picture sometimes of him as a young man. he was a really handsome, beautiful young man, thick, strong looking black haired, wonderful and we all knew him as a guy in a wheelchair and a guy who struggled at times even
with breathing. such a contrast. i didn't know that charles krauthammer. i didn't know the guy who would realize, you know, that his life really was politics, not medicine. come to washington worked in psychiatric research and a speech writer for mondale would go on to fit -- this is not, you know, trying to sort of guild the lily i'm telling you the straight deal. i sat across from charles arguing with him regularly for almost that 10-year period. he fits into a tradition if you think about people like bill buckley and what bill buckley meant for conservative thought in this country and you come to people like bill sapphire. giving structure to conservative thought at a critical moment. and what the party stood for in terms of the republican ideal. and then you come forward maybe to think about people like george will, robert novak, but
then you come to charles krauthammer. and you remember krauthammer gives you reagan doctrine in terms of what american ideals and security should be our worldview. and charles gives language, articulates what it is. and the president i can tell, i was back there, he loved it. the whole administration took to it. here is someone who understands how serious a thinker what the liberals would call the actor really is. >> bill: he could do it in paragraphs but also one sentence so incisive. i mentioned keith hernandez to him once talking baseball. he said remember that time they were taking the team photo of the mets and they were brawling and had a fist fight and strawberry was a lazy outfielder and not throwing the ball in right and doing the fundamentals. he punched hernandez. that's right. he said it's the only time strawberry ever hit the cut-off man.
>> bill: gentlemen, thank you. marcel my brother piece is a story about spending summers on long beach, new york. last week with the belmont. it goes at 7:00 at night. you wake up in the morning and what do you do with your day? you can't ever take the chance of missing the possibility of a triple crown winner and so i said what will i do? i got in my car and drove out to long beach and sat there for six hours and found a good bar and just thinking about him and his brother being out there and justify did win the triple crown. charles, thank you for that. still to come, gentlemen, stand by. here in a moment here is season two of roseanne getting a green light. a big difference. how the network plans to move on after the controversy on the show's namesake star. >> heather: the battle over immigration. we've been talking about it. rages on. the house kills one bill, delays the vote on another. president trump wasting no time dishing out the blame. >> president trump: we have to
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>> heather: roseanne is coming back sort of. after the controversy over her racist tweet. roseanne giving the plan her blessing as well. let's bring in the 24/7 crew. charlie shimkus, brett larson and jarrid max. >> good news for the 200 plus people who get their jobs back but it's a gamble. roseanne was the center of that show. i'm not sure if there is a show without her. i think what will happen is people are going to tune in because they're curious if the writing and story line is there they might stick around. i've heard from a lot of people who say they aren't going to tune in because they are angry with how abc handled her firing. >> i see it's a purely money move. abc stands to lose a lot of money without doing the show.
$100 million in ad revenue is what they stood to lose. i see it as a sort of here is a way we can maybe get some of that money, maybe we go another season, maybe we go two years and who knows? into the second year the controversy may have died down and maybe they bring roseanne back in. >> is ashton kutcher available? when charlie sheen screwed up they brought kutcher into 2 1/2 men. >> i don't know if he is available. this show centers around the character darlene, the daughter. john goodman is a big-name actor. a lot of people love him. maybe it could work. >> bill: a long lost character of roseanne, a daughter who comes back and takes up the trump theme. >> i don't think 2 1/2 men was ever the same, no. >> bill: let's talk about melania. the jacket that the shot heard round the world. do you want to start there? >> i probably have the least controversial thing to say.
it's a $39 jacket from last year. who cares? it came that way. she is known for her fashion, okay. right, it's like it's three little points. >> there were three explanations given to this whole thing. it doesn't mean anything. the president said it was an attack on the media and critics speculated the message on her coat was directed at the children. let's scratch that one off the list. that is ridiculous. the messaging in the white house with this one was off because what her spokeswoman said was different than what the president said. but yeah, she chose to wear this coat and the big takeaway is that it really did take away from all the good work she did on the border. >> who cares what they are wearing? secret messages or whatever. >> did she make a hand symbol, too? >> if that was why she wore it to send a message to the mainstream media they played
into it because they're talking about it. i spoke to somebody who lives in mcallen today and he said that the first lady didn't get to do all she wanted to do because there has been a lot of flooding down there. she did want to leave her mark and like i said, you know, this is a shame and i think that maybe somebody, she should have known better, maybe worn a different coat. >> bill: "washington post" with jacket gate. the first lady is category 5 trolling us. if you match that with the president's tweet about fake news -- well, we just talked about contrarian thought a moment ago about charles krauthammer. turn it around because she is turning it around possibly on everybody else. >> she has had a hard week with the tweet about her son. so maybe she is just fed up and sick of the whole thing and she is just trying to, you know, take a jab at the media.
>> maybe that was her response. >> bill: what is going on in the meadowlands? >> sports betting is now in new jersey. the meadowlands racetrack will become the fourth outfit where people can make sports bets. it's such a big deal because it's in the same complex where the new york giants and jets play football. legalized sports gambling is now okay in new york. we had the super bowl. the new york, new jersey super bowl. >> you want to smell stale cigars. >> july 15th at meadowlands. >> bill: i don't like this gambling deal on professional sports. i don't think you should sit in a stadium and bet. >> i think it leads to big problems and brings in a lot of
money but creates a little of destruction. >> bill: thank you for the destruction you have brought to us through the past week. you're all three terrific. thank you all. in a moment the house facing an uphill battle on immigration after lawmakers vote down the first of two proposals. is there a way forward? we'll talk to jim jordan about that. that's coming up. >> heather: it is deadline day for the d.o.j. will republican lawmakers finally get their hands on those subpoenaed documents from the clinton email investigation? we'll talk about it. you shouldn't be rushed into booking a hotel. with expedia's add-on advantage, booking a flight unlocks discounts on select hotels until the day you leave for your trip. add-on advantage. only when you book with expedia. add-on advantage. remember sleep before smart phones? new! zzzquil pure zzzs is here to help. with a drug-free blend of botanicals with melatonin ...that supports your natural sleep cycle... ...giving you that head start in the morning.
>> bill: breaking news. supreme court waiting on a few decisions. they say police need a search warrant a ruling a moment ago if we want to track criminal suspects' movements by collecting information about where they've used a cell phone. critical. 5-4 ruling. victory for privacy in the digital age. a big change from the old days
when authorities could go to the phone company and obtain information about the numbers dialed from a home telephone, a land line without present a warrant. the decision a moment ago 5-4 with chief justice john roberts the deciding vote from there. in the meantime also in washington house republicans hitting a roadblock on immigration delaying a vote on a so-called compromise bill until next week after a more conservative measure can't get off the ground. president trump blaming democrats tweeted republicans should stop wasting their time on immigration until after we elect congressmen and women in november. dems are playing game and have no intention of solving this problem. we can pass great legislation after the red wave, end quote. a reference to mid-terms come november. our guest now supported the conservative bill. ohio republican jim jordan member of the house freedom caucus and serves on the oversight and judiciary
committee. nice of you to be our headliner, sir. we have a lot of stuff to talk about. vote next week, what can pass if anything? >> right now nothing can pass but i will tell you this 193 votes for the conservative bill. if our leaders had whipped that bill like they've done other pieces of legislation, only 19 votes short. story yesterday was the fact we were so close with the conservative bill. the reason the other bill wasn't being brought up today is because it would get less votes than the conservative bill got yesterday. the focus should be on that conservative bill. let's find those 19 other members who can pass that bill because after all that's the one that is consistent with the mandate from the 2016 election. it does all the good things border security, build the border security wall, stop visa lottery and chain migration and reform our asylum law and deals with the daca population. let's refocus on that and get it passed. >> heather: do you think it was an issue not concentrating on the first bill to begin with
since it ended up being so close and what are the issues with the second one that possibly be resolved over the weekend? >> i think that's the wrong premise. start with the bill that has 193 votes. if there are a few minor things that can be tweaked on that to get us to a majority of the house, maybe we can look at that. let's whip it. remember for months we were told by leadership that bill only has 150 votes, 160 votes. it can't get close. yesterday when the vote was called in front of god and everybody 193 republicans said this is what's consistent and told the american people we were going to do and they voted for it. let's focus there and make that the base bill and get that over the finish line and then the president is right, chuck schumer said this earlier in the week. they don't want to do anything. at least the house should show the american people we're doing what we said. >> bill: the president also said today move on. go ahead and get more people elected in november and come back to it then. >> we may have to do that. chuck schumer has been very
clear he doesn't want to do anything to fix the problem. he just wants the political issue. the bill we had yesterday would fix the problem. that's the bill that we told the american people we would support and that's what they support. if we can get anything across the finish line it should be that and if it goes to the senate and they can't get it passed that's the senate being the senate and do what the president said. >> bill: we had the texas lieutenant governor on with us last hour. he said among the four states in the southwest they apprehend 400,000 people a year and he said that's just those that we are able to apprehend. he thinks four times that many get through. he estimates there is not 11 million illegals in america he thinks there are 24 million. >> all the more reason we need to do the bill we passed yesterday. >> bill: how much has washington failed those states? >> we have. we had ice and customs and
border in my office last week. they said 2,000 people a week come to the border seeking asylum. 100,000 people in a year. they said 80% of those aren't legitimate asylums and don't qualify. that's what is happening on our border. we have to do the right kind of legislation. it drives me crazy and drives the american people crazy is we can't pass the bill that was consistent with what they elected us to do, the goodlatte bill on the floor yesterday but we're so close. so let's get it done. >> heather: then there is just a very short question why pass anything if you don't think that it can pass in the senate? >> well, i mean we're supposed to do our job. what happens in the senate it is hard to figure out that place. we should do our job. if the senate can't do theirs then let's have an election this fall and have the red wave happen and elect more conservative senators. we should still do our job.
we shouldn't forfeit our ability. >> bill: let's talk about department of justice, peter strzok and the whole ball of wax. paul ryan yesterday is issuing the demand to get the department of justice -- if he doesn't get his way he is threatening a subpoena. this is what he said about that. watch. >> you met with rod rosenstein over the dispute you have or over records. some members want to hold him in contempt. are you supportive of holding him in contempt? >> i'm supportive of making sure we get the documents we deserve and requested. we expect compliance. i'm still getting daily reports from our committee chairs about the progress on compliance and regroup with them tomorrow. i expect them to comply with all of our very legitimate document requests. this is legitimate congressional oversight of the executive branch.
>> the speaker has been clear and told me this mr. meadows, i and others introduced which says the full house goes on record and tell the department of justice if you don't give us what we have within a certain time period we'll move to the next step. the resolution comes first, if rosenstein doesn't comply, then it's contempt and we're prepared to file articles of impeachment against mr. rosenstein if he doesn't give the house of representatives and congress a separate and equal branch of governments to give us the documents to get answers for you, the press and the american people. we're at the end of the line. >> bill: why do you think they've been so stubborn? >> because it's embarrassing. we've caught them hiding things. why did they redact the fact strzok and one of the fisa court judges were friends. it is not classified. it is not an ongoing investigation. they redacted it. we had to go to the d.o.j. to get the unredacted document to
find it out. why did they do that? think about this? jim comey has been fired, andy mccabe fired. jim baker was demoted an left. lisa page was demoted and left. peter strzok deputy head of counter intelligence was demoted and escort s out of the f.b.i. they launched the russia investigation and ran the clinton investigation. where have you seen where the top six people who were in charge of the investigation? rod rosenstein need to give us the information or all three steps st*eps will take place. >> heather: do you think that you will hear from peter strzok and what do you want to hear from him? >> we want to depose him and scheduled to be next week. chairman goodlatte has been clear about this. i talked to him at our hearing earlier this week. they'll subpoena him if they have to. we'll get a deposition. more importantly we need rod
rosenstein and christopher wray in front of the judiciary committee to answer our questions as well. >> bill: you are also hot on the department of justice going after records on behalf of the "new york times." what is the rub there? >> it's called freedom of the press. think about the federal government went after conservative groups when the i.r.s. tar g*eted them. now we find out that they went and just grabbed alley watson's emails and records, are you kidding me? that's never supposed to happen in this country. a law that we've introduced and hope it passes and we think it will. it passed the few years ago when mike pence was the sponsor. >> heather: i read your article where you were talking about that and wanted to emphasize it and get it passed and related to what's going on now in terms of the d.o.j. and not releasing information to you. >> right. this is all about the first amendment. first amendment, right to practice your faith the way you
want. petition your government to assembly. your ability to speak in a free fashion and not be harassed by your government and right to a free press. go after the leakers. this is the case. go after the leakers but do not go grab the material that the reporter has who is giving information to the american people. you can't do that. that's what our bill says. let's try to get it passed. >> bill: mark meadows told us on fox yesterday on with neil on fox business he does not want to be the next speaker of the house. do you? >> he would be a good one. i've been very clear. if and when there is a race for speaker i plan on being part of that discussion. right now i'm focused on doing what we told the american people we would do so we can stay in the majority and continue to do what we need to do to make this country great. >> bill: that wasn't necessarily a no. we've talked about this before. you want to go further? >> bill, i'm focused on doing my job representing the people in the fourth district of ohio. i appreciate your question. >> bill: you got it.
thank you, sir, for your time and we appreciate that. jim jordan from the hill. a lot of work next week. >> heather: not a no. >> bill: indeed. bringing in payne in a moment. facial recognition software. is this a step toward big brother? charles payne will break it down in a moment. >> heather: house republicans hitting a brick wall on immigration. we were just talking about that. whether they ever find 218 votes to pass the bill? "america's newsroom" a-team will be back for round two. >> the president hasn't answered. how many kids are in these facilities now? what's their condition? why hasn't the media been allowed to come in and see and verify that the conditions are humane?
benson. gentlemen, start your engines. what are we doing here? a combo. i like it. juan, will the house pass an immigration bill next week? >> no. >> no. >> no. they can't find consensus. >> i'm hearing no. >> chuck schumer shouldn't get off the hook. >> bill: you guys made this so interesting. >> lightning struck. republicans can't get a consensus but let's be fair chuck schumer has been there saying we have to help the kids, we have to help the kids. the president said i want a bipartisan bill. let's codify it-in-law and make it happen. i'll block anything. i'll block anything. i want to help the kids. now he doesn't. >> heather: jim jordan talked about using the conservative bill and tweaking that a little
bit. >> they're heading into the mid-terms where they are likely to lose republican seats if they cling to the majority. you can't pass this when you have the power, you will never get immigration done. >> if you have a republican majority in the house and they can't pass a bill why are you pointing at democrats? what you get here is that famous scene with mark meadows of the freedom caucus lecturing paul ryan and you see a divide within the party. >> i thought you would say a famous scene of the godfather. >> we said no, no, no. >> bill: the pros. topic two. will peter strzok testify? >> yes, he wants to. >> yes. >> i think he probably wants to also especially if he gets fired he gets escorted out of the building by security i think he might be on his way out and has an axe to grind as he seems to have in the text messages. what has he got to lose? if he won't be charged with
anything he wants to get his side of the story out. >> bill: do you know he will not be charged? >> i don't know that. if his lawyers say don't testify because it will hurt you legally maybe he will think about it. >> bill: what will he say? >> his lawyer keeps saying he has been treated unfairly. his own text messages not only say we want to stop donald trump from being president but all the texts beforehand we heard months ago the trump voters, smell them at the wal-mart. unbelievable. yes, he deserves his day in court and tell his side of the story. what is your side of that story? >> heather: when you talked to him earlier didn't say he thought he would back up and say i didn't mean it? >> bill: that was implied. >> the big point here is the i.g. inspector general report said there was no evidence of bias in his conduct as an f.b.i. agent. i think people --
>> you i and have bias about a lot of things. peter strzok will defend himself and say that f.b.i. agents and the intelligence community do not deserve to be demeaned in this manner. >> bill: a slow rolling train. thunder and lightning. third topic. will melania trump wear this jacket again? >> i hope not. >> i thought the media jumped the shark when they spent a week and a half on whether she wore heels or sneakers. that was ridiculous. this yesterday, look, why she picked that particular saying when she is going to see kids, maybe that was a little odd but boy, if you are going to focus on that when the first lady is reaching out to kids and going to the border and doing her job, it was ridiculous. >> come on, ed. i tell you what was outrageous, the message on that jacket at a time when america has real issues left or right about children and suffering. >> she wasn't directing it at the kids.
>> somebody should have said don't wear that jacket. >> i believe the question was will she wear it again? my only answer to that is i don't care, do you? [laughter] >> bill: that is perfect. that's perfect for the lightning round. thank you, guy, ed and juan. appreciate it, gentlemen. thank you. do you think she will? >> heather: yes, i do. i think she will. she already did when she was returning back to the plane, right? he wore it twice. >> bill: we're all about contrarian thought today. >> heather: we'll talk about amazon taking heat for selling facial recognition software to law enforcement. will it help the good guys or simply bring the surveillance state one step closer? charles payne on deck to talk about that. >> if you and i don't know and have no way of even knowing that we are under surveillance, we can't even challenge that surveillance. llion
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privacy versus security, amazon pushing sales of facial recognition software to law enforcement potentially giving authorities a leg up in catching the bad guys. charles payne the host of making money on the fox business network joins us now to talk about it. >> bill: great to see you. >> a great article in the journal yesterday about this. there is great things going on -- amazing things going on in china to parallel all this. the notion of really just freedom, right? and i think the next major frontier in this battle will be facial recognition and the ability to track anyone in this country anywhere for anyone to be able to do that. there has been a lot of pushback. silicon valley about doing deals with the government. not wanting to help our federal government with respect to law enforcement or foreign policy. but a lot of this stuff that's being created anyone can go out there and buy. any company can buy it and it is getting to the point where it's very intrusive and people
are starting to raise red flags. >> bill: people with the big new iphone x and facial recognition. i tried it and i thought it's -- i can still get to where i need to go and i don't need the facial recognition. other colleagues of mine love it. and they say hemmer, come back in six months. i guarantee you will be on facial recognition to pay to unlock your phone and do all sorts of things. >> i don't do any online banking. i'm a little bit of a dinosaur with respect to that. accounting say please, get the direct deposit. >> bill: you don't even do direct deposit? >> i'm a little old school. when we were talking about this i sent in a quote, nothing was your own except the few cubic centimeters inside your skull. unfortunately that will be the future. now, china the reason i brought that up they are ahead of the curve on this. they have cameras in
universities where they can look at a student and judge their emotions from facial recognition whether they are stimulated or bored by the class and police officers started using sunglasses with facial recognition technology. it's amazing we were worried about big brother when ultimately it could be any private company or any individual. >> heather: it's bad enough they go through and keep track of what you search on google and send you ads related to that. this would take it to another level. >> bill: your big point this is coming whether we like it or not. >> so i guess the main thing is maybe rules of the road. this is in such a state right now there is no really strong rules on how to use this, who can buy this. at the very least i think we should make sure we know who is buying this information and who actually has the ability to monitor not just those but everything else. >> bill: you write out your checks by hand still?
>> yes. >> heather: i do that, yeah. >> i'm old school. >> bill: too many passwords to remember. have an awesome weekend. we had the privilege of knowing charles krauthammer. in a moment honoring his life and legacy with chris wallace sharing thoughts with us. >> heather: talking about immigration reform. can the house get it done? homeland security chair michael mccaul joins us as "america's newsroom" rolls on. (director) cut! nice, candace, but this time bold. did someone say "bold?" (gasping) starkist jalapeo tuna in a pouch! loaded with bold flavor. just tear, eat... mmmmm. and go bold! try all of my bold creations pouches! the world is full of different hair. that's why pantene has the perfect conditioners for everyone. from air-light foam, to nourishing 3 minute miracle, to the moisture-infusing gold series. we give more women great hair days - every day.
>> bill: good morning. 11:00 here in new york. 8:00 a.m. in california. it is the top of the hour as we reflect today on the remarkable life of our colleague, charles krauthammer, a pulitzer prize winning columnist, best selling author. charles lost his battle with cancer yesterday at the age of 68. died on the summer solstice, longest day of the year. good morning. thank you for sharing your day with us today. nice to see you, sandra has a day off. >> heather: a long weekend. lot to reflect on today. good to be with you. a member of the fox news family, of course, for more than a decade krauthammer had no problem speaking truth to power regardless of political party.
his candid, quick witted remarks delivered with style and civility. >> it's my job to call a folly a folly. you betray your whole life if you don't say what you think and say it honestly and bluntly. >> why did you choose psychiatry? >> i was looking for something halfway between medicine and philosophy. psychiatry was the obvious thing. i'm a psychiatrist in remission and haven't had a relapse for 25 years. one of the reasons i shifted because on foreign policy the democrats changed, i didn't. >> what did you notice about the progression of your thinking on politics? >> how dummy was in the beginning. i stopped evolving 20 years ago. i'm frozen in amber. >> bill: he could go on and on with that smile. chris wallace with me now and good morning to you.
>> you look, that perfectly en capsule ates what a lot of us are feeling. we're terribly sad to have lost him and you can't watch those clips without feeling a sense of delight that you had the opportunity for a moment to see lightning in the bottle and to be with him and to hear those lines that he just tossed off without -- his extraordinary wit and insight and eloquence. it wasn't planned and he didn't -- i'm sure he worked hard on it but he -- just these lightning bolts of wisdom, humor and wit that would come flying out of his mouth. it was extraordinary to be in his presence. i was talking last night and think in our national conversation he was the umpire. he called balls and strikes and in a world where we're so split
and you have to stick to the party line, he didn't. he stuck to his convictions and his principles and his intellect and, you know, he was a conservative, no question about that. but if he thought something betrayed his conservative principles he was happy to call it even if it was another republican. and similarly he would call out the excesses of the left and that's increasingly rare and increasingly precious in our society. >> bill: i think he spoke with a confident mind. he trusted his intellect. he did not see life in a straight line and that's pretty evident from his own resume. if he had to take a left or right-hand turn he took it in his professional and personal life when he saw trauma he reached it and faced and reached inside of himself to say how can i figure this out?
that's his trail. >> i completely agree he had a confidence, somewhat occasionally say maybe over confidence but yes, he trusted his judgments in things. a lot of us sometimes -- what does this really mean? he could kind of see through it and knew true north on the compass and he understood where it stood and he trusted his intellect, his voice, his principles. not to say he was always right. that would have been kind of boring if he had always been right but he was always consistent. he knew what he thought and he was unafraid to say it. that's very, very special. then of course the other thing that we have to talk about when you talk about charles krauthammer was what good company he was. i don't want to make it sound like he was the pope or infallible. he was just good fun. he was funny, sly, witty. i remember one time i said
something about gee, i wish i had said that and he said -- he said well, it's a french phrase that means the wit or spirit of the staircase. when you've been to a dinner party and walking down the staircase leaving afterwards and you think gee, that's what you should have said. who but charles would know there was a perfect french phrase, the spirit of the staircase to describe that thought. he was so much fun and so educating and inspiring and so much darn fun to be around. >> bill: two things i want to share before we wrap up our segment here. go to the krauthammer letter that he sent out i believe it was 12 days ago. it concluded this way. he said i leave this life with no regrets. it was a wonderful life, full and complete with the great loves and endeavors that make it worth leaving. i am sad to leave but leave
with the knowledge that i lived the life i intended. there has been a lot of baseball talk. stirewalt writes his piece every day and used to have the segment where he said now for a word from charles. here is a moment for charles at the nationals game last night in washington, d.c. moment of silence from the perspective where charles sat in his wheelchair, chris. somewhere between first base and home plate at nationals park. >> yeah. he was a special man and i wrote a letter to his wife, robin, and daniel, his beloved son this morning and one of the things i said is you know, he is only 68. he should have had another 20 or 25 years to share with them and all of us. so that's very sad. on the other hand, he was on this earth for 68 years and we got to share those lucky of us
to know him or watch him on tv we got to share some of those 68 years with him and we're all the richer for it. i think in the end all you can do you mourn his passing is count your blessings to have shared a part of charles krauthammer's life and his extraordinary spirit. >> bill: we only have today and it was a privilege. thank you, chris, chris wallace in washington dana perino joins us in a few moments as we honor the memory of our friend and colleague and a number of anecdotes to share with us. >> heather: she helped with his book. >> bill: yes, which was remarkable to our viewers out there. if you get a chance, get it. it will have an impact. >> heather: can i tell you one of the -- i sent this out a lot of people on twitter were trying to look from the quotes from that book. every once in a while a single person arises without whom everything would be different. i think that's very fitting for
him. >> bill: yes. >> heather: much more to come on that. fox news alert. president trump urging republicans to stop wasting time on immigration until after the november mid-terms. as house gop leaders struggle to secure enough yes votes for their compromise immigration bill putting off a vote until next week. the more conservative measure failed yesterday in the house. house freedom caucus member jim jordan weighing in on the bill's defeat in our last hour. >> we were so close with the conservative bill and the reason the other bill wasn't being brought up today is because it would get less votes than the conservative bill got yesterday. the focus should be on the conservative bill. let's find the 19 other members who can pass that bill because after all that's the one that's consistent with the mandate from the 2016 election. >> heather: john roberts is live for us at the white house with more on all of this. john. >> two important things going
on now. republicans in congress trying to coble enough votes to get the vote passed next week. at the same time a district judge in california, judge gee is considering a request from attorney general jeff sessions to allow dhs to continue to hold children indefinitely if the judge doesn't grant that request and there is no indication that she will, that puts us back to where we were earlier this week. then on the legislative front the president suggesting that republicans in congress give up on any idea of immigration reform until after the election. he tweeted republicans should stop wasting their time on immigration until after we elect more senators and congressmen and women in november. dems are just playing games and have no intention to solve the decades-old problem. we can pass great legislation after the red wave. the tweet stands in contrast to what he said yesterday. congress needs to come together and act to fix what he calls america's broken immigration
system. listen here. >> president trump: this has been going on for decades and they have to sit down. i'll be certainly willing to do it. i just told you i'll invite senator schumer and nancy pelosi. they can come over and bring whoever they want. but the lawmakers have to sit down and have to do something because our country cannot continue to run like this. we can't have open borders. >> the president standing firm on the issue of securing our borders tweeting this morning we must maintain a strong southern border. we can't allow our country to be overrun by illegal immigrants as the democrats tell their phony stories of sandness and grief hoping it will help them in the election. obama and others had the same pictures and did nothing about it. a senior administration official tells fox news that some 500 children have been reunited with their families. that's 500 out of some 2300 children and in most cases, heather, the senior administration official says they were reunited in under
three days. >> heather: john roberts live for us. coming up house homeland security chairman michael mccaul of texas joins us live to talk more about this immigration including what it will take to get a deal done. >> bill: in a moment 11 past the hour president trump urging congress to fix the immigration laws. >> president trump: if we don't close these loopholes there is no amount of money or personnel in the world to address the crisis. very serious crisis. >> bill: some uncertainty over an executive order ending the separation of families. it might create new problems. we'll get a take on that coming up live. >> heather: areas still trying to recover from hurricane harvey under a state of emergency. the latest on the devastating flooding up next.
>> heather: a fox news alert as president trump's order to halt family separations sparks new chaos leaving law enforcement and social service agencies unsure of what will happen to thousands of children president trump has repeatedly called for an end to catch and release policies which releases undocumented immigrants while they wait for a court appearance. our next guest says there is no way catch and release can stop under the president's new order to keep immigrant families together. joining me now is brandon judd, president of the national border council. thank you for joining us this morning.
so why not? why can't that happen? >> if you look at the flores versus reno case, the courts have specifically said you can't hold children i believe it's 20 or 22 days. you can't hold children more than 20 days. a deportation proceedings takes much longer than 20 days. if you can't hold the children and you can't separate the children from the family you'll have to release the parents with the children. that then puts us back into the catch and release mode. >> heather: judge gee is trying to decide whether or not to lift that requirement at this point. we were talking about when we think that decision will come down. that could change things, right? >> it does. now, if the judge lifts that requirement then that executive order keeps everything intact where we don't have to go back to the catch and release program. minus that there is nothing that can be done under the courts that will allow us to hold these -- hold everybody pending deportation proceedings
and still hold the children as well. it can't be done. >> heather: john roberts said 500 children as of now have been reconnected with their families within the last three days. let's listen to what president trump had to say in terms of the immigration problem being solved. listen. >> president trump: every time they write a rule or regulation it makes it worse, not better. we have to hire thousands of judges. no country in the world is hiring judges like that. they hire border people. they can't come into the country. >> heather: you were talking about the backlog hiring for judges. is that what needs to happen? >> there is a lot of things that need to happen. frankly, we have to have congress step up and have to have congress step up and do their job. minus them doing their job we're talking about short term fixes. we do need more judges, we do need border patrol agents and ice officers. we need all of these different resources but frankly that has to come from congress. >> heather: in the meantime what do you do with all these
families? i realize 70% one of the stats i heard 70% of the children that cross over are without a parent or adult. in terms of the ones that are here and in the situation right now, what do you propose we do? >> right now the ones that we have we have to reunite them with their families. that's why the president signed that executive order. but what we have to do is we have to create another window like the president created back in april of 2017. he single handedly dropped illegal immigration to 45 year lows. if we can create that -- if we enact it at the right time and implement the proper policies and operations at the right time, we can get this done. we had that window in 2017. unfortunately our agencies failed to seize upon that. >> heather: you think ending catch and release is part of what will decrease the numbers. >> it has to. you have to look at what the
magnets are that cause people to cross the border illegally. if they know that they can break our laws and there is not going to be any consequence to breaking the laws they'll continue to break the laws. they know that all they have to do is get released, then they can, as president obama coined the term, fall into the shadows of society. they can just go there and never have to show up to their court appearance and know that maybe in 20 years an amnesty will come along. that's what we're talking about now. they know how to game the system and they know how to play to system and that's what they're doing. >> heather: does it anger you when hear about democrats. they wanted families to be put back together, president trump made moves to do that and now they say that's not enough for them. do you think what they want the bottom line is catch and release? >> all they want to do is be a thorn in his side. that's all they're trying to do. what really upsets me is that president trump did not start this policy. we were doing this back in 2014.
our facilities were overcrowded, we were separating children from families, from parents, we were doing it on a large scale basis. what he did when he signed that executive order is actually stopped a policy that pre-dated him. you would think that the democrats would say hey, good job. but of course they aren't going to. they'll continue to heap all kinds of disparagement on him and try to make him look bad. >> heather: what he did was follow the law. the images are heartbreaking. thank you for joining us. we'll see what happens in the house over the weekend. thank you. >> bill: house republicans will push the vote to next week and considering a compromise immigration bill. we do not know what michael mccaul is about to say. reaction from the texas congressman coming up. >> heather: we're remembering legendary journalist charles krauthammer and how he is being honored by his colleagues. >> you get graded on the curve. selling books you get numbers
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>> read charles krauthammer's column in the post. he is a brilliant man. >> when you get praise from president clinton and you're from my side of the aisle, that means my career is done. i'm toast. maybe npr will take me. juan williams used to be, but otherwise i'm done. >> bill: i love the humor. memories pouring in. a long time fox news
contributor our colleague, friend, charles krauthammer. we were lucky to know this man. dana perino remembers the man she calls a friend and what he taught her over the years. good morning to you and thanks for being here. >> it's an honor, thank you. >> bill: tell us a story. >> there are so many it seems. i do remember as a young hill staffer. i started in 1995. and the republicans had just taken back over the congress after being in the minority for so long and one of the first things that congressman i worked for told me is every day you should read the "washington post" but on fridays you have to read charles krauthammer. and that started a tradition that i carried with me for years and i never thought i would actually ever get to meet the man and then to know the man and then to work with him. as you said, it was a privilege, of course, to be his friend. you really felt like you had
earned it because he was generous with his time. if you listen to all of these remembrances that people have had, i cannot believe how much he touched each of us personally as well. maybe with a question about what we wanted to do next in our careers as he did with me after i left the white house. or helping somebody deal with a grieving process. for me it was when my dog, henry died. you love dogs and he said every time you got a new dog he would ask why do we do this to ourselves? and he told me it's because dogs make us better people. and then, of course, his intellectual prowess is unmatched. in some ways words to describe charles krauthammer really feel pretty inadequate because he was such a master of the language. >> bill: you love books and you think about what he contributed to massachusetts general early in his career with psychiatry
and the contribution he made and his transition to politics and really political thought, i think, in the modern age. but the book he put together, things that matter, you are big into books and you just mentioned words. you had a hand in that. >> yes. >> bill: tell us about that. >> i had read charles krauthammer for so many years. you posted, i believe, bill, one of my favorite columns, one of many people's favorite columns that he wrote about his brother, marcel after he passed away at the age of 59. i remember when i read it i was at the kitchen island on our house in capitol hill in washington, d.c. before i left to go to the white house for the day, and it just blew me away. years later i was working for a publisher as a consultant i had the collection of charles
krauthammer. trust me, he is different. everybody wanted to have that book and it was a real privilege to put it together and bill, he wrote an original essay for that book. i encourage everyone to get that book and read it or he read the audio book. what you'll find in that collection of all of his work that he did over many decades, the lead column that is part of that book is the one he wrote about his brother, marcel. >> bill: marcel, my brother. thank you, dana. dana perino with us today. we'll see you later at 2:00 and 5:00 as well. the daily briefing and the five. the article she mentions is called marcel, my brother. if you want to google it find it by way of the "washington post". it is still free and online. i encourage everybody to read it, to save it, to book mark it because it is a tribute to the person he loved most in this world, his older brother.
he talks about the summers they spent on long beach, new york and there is a picture he describes and how charles wishes he could take that moment and hold it for the rest of his time. and today we can say he has done that. in the words of charles, forever together, forever summer, indeed it is. charles krauthammer died on the summer solstice, the longest day of the year, and for today going forward, he is always forever summer with you, charles. thank you for what you have given us. sales. build attendance for an event. help people find their way. fastsigns designed new directional signage. and got them back on track. get started at fastsigns.com.
to tour facilities for children and hold a round table after that at a border patrol station. steve harrigan is live for us in texas. what is happening now with the children who have been separated from their parents? we've been getting some updates. >> that's right. administration officials are confirming that more than 500 of those children have already been reunited with their parents. more than 2300 separated since the start of may and efforts now underway by aid organizations, law firms and government officials to try to continue those reunions. we saw one in the early hours this morning at 2:30 in the morning at a baltimore airport. a woman from guatemala separated at the border from her 7-year-old son for one month was reunited. that reunion came after a lawsuit the woman claimed her human rights had been violated and a forceful separation and here trying to get asylum fearing an abusive husband and
had words of advice for other parents in the very difficult situation now of searching for their own children. here is what she had to say. >> they can fight the same way i did. they have to fight to get out from there to fight for their children. one has to win the battle. >> in addition to aid groups and law firms trying to reunite parents and children the government is discussing plans for a central reunification to be built if texas to try to bring those remaining parents and children together. >> heather: they've been working as quickly as they can. 500 reunited so far. are you expecting visitors where you are today? >> that's right. ted cruz and john cornyn from texas expected to come here after seeing some facilities geting a firsthand look at the conditions for detained children on the heels of a visit by melania trump yesterday visiting a facility that held 58 children. some of those children crossing the border by themselves.
others separated from their parents. the first lady asking officials at the shelter how often the children got to speak to their parents? how long they were going to be in that facility? and what she could do, if anything, to try to reunite the children with their parents as quickly as possible. back to you. >> heather: thank you so much. >> bill: house republican leaders will delay a vote on an immigration meadows. sir, good day to you. a lot of tourists there today. i'll speak loudly. what do you think? as you talk to your colleagues is this something you can get done next week? >> chairman goodlatte and i, it is our bill. we decided to put a pause on the bill and held a conference last night. it was very productive. we have a lot of factions in our republican family but i think last night was a great night. we saw a lot of the different
issues coming together and i think we'll have a very constructive bill on the floor next week. a lot of this will take care of this family separation issue. right now under law they get separated. we keep the families together under this law and it's very important point. we also provide border security and fix the daca, which all the democrats seem to be against that when we debated the bill on the floor. and every democrat voted against our daca fix and solution yesterday. >> bill: when you talk about a compromise bill, pardon me on this one, but how do you define the difference? where was the compromise? >> honestly it's the four pillars, my border security bill ending the visa lottery system, which is random. chain migration, reducing that and the daca solution. i think the other members are very much in the weeds on this
and we're trying to get everybody a consensus bill, if you will, get everybody together so -- we need to pass this. this is an historic opportunity to do something we haven't done in 25 years. fix the daca kids, legalize them, it will provide border security that i talked about for seven terms in congress, and bill, we just have to get this done. 25 billion dollars to build the president's wall and provide the technology and personnel to get it done. >> bill: sounds like you are putting everything in there the president will sign. the senate will be an uphill climb. the president saying kick it until after november. get rid of the filibuster in the senate. that's not your area but his position. the lieutenant governor in your state was with us last hour. he is sharing the blame for everybody in washington sglief owe said for a long time i blame both parties. republicans had a chance in 2005-2006. obama had a chance and didn't
get it done. today the democrats are clearly the obstructionists. >> bill: even if you get something in the house, where does it go? >> with supreme court gorsuch they waived the filibuster rule and made a 51 vote. we in the house get a lot of bills passed and nothing happens in the senate. quite frankly, this is the most important bill we've -- other than the tax cut bill we'll vote on this congress. i would urge senator cornyn and mitch mcconnell to waive that filibuster rule and make it a 51 vote. i know the president of the united states would stand firmly behind that as he stands firmly behind us. i'm 1,000 percent behind what you're doing in the house. he endorses the bill and wants it done. he wants his wall. we'll get it done in the house. i feel very optimistic about that. the senate needs to waive that
ridiculous rule that does not go back to the constitution. >> bill: to be clear they waived it for gorsuch and you would like mcconnell to waive it on this. what has he told you about that? >> they like their traditions in the senate. they aren't getting anything done in the senate. we're getting very impatient in the house. i passed 100 bills out of my committee just sitting over there in the senate. it's true with every committee chairman in the house. this is the number one campaign promise that the president made was to build the wall, secure the border, my bill delivers that. we'll pass it. and i would urge mitch mcconnell and senator cornyn to stop this procedural nonsense and waive the filibuster rule and go to a 51 procedure like they did with gorsuch. >> bill: i understand what you are saying there. have you talked to mitch mcconnell about this?
>> well, i've talked to senator cornyn about it. >> bill: your message has been delivered to senator cornyn and you would assume the conversation he is having with senator mcconnell. to get it done you will have to twist some arms. >> there is one man in this town who can do that, the president of the united states. so if we get our job done in the house, i would urge the president and i know he will do it, to try to waive this filibuster rule in the senate to get this thing done. this is one of the most fundamentally game changers when it comes to immigration reform, border security, and the daca fix which everybody wants that. all democrats voted against it yesterday but everybody wants a solution to daca. including republicans. >> bill: thank you for your time. >> thank you so much. >> bill: next week will be a big week. michael mccaul from texas. thank you for being here. >> heather: sounds like it might be the key. the white house wants to
reorganize and streamline the federal government announcing proposals to consolidate some agencies and slash some programs. will this be the real start of draining the swamp? >> department of education and the department of labor being merged. we think that makes sense. they are both doing the same thing, trying to get people ready for the workforce. girl, pepto ultra coating will treat your stomach right. nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea.♪ try new pepto with ultra coating.
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>> we call it the drain the swamp cabinet meeting. we talked about that during the campaign and you talked about it since you have been haor. today we're introducing the actions that follow up on those words to show people what we meant when we said drain the swamp. >> heather: the white house unveiling a sweeping new plan to reorganize the federal government. it would combine agencies and departments like education and labor. so let's bring in brad blakeman a former deputy assistant to president george w. bush and fox news commissioner green. on some level it makes sense and you can't argue with it. this example with a cheese pizza versus a pepperoni pizza. the cheese pizza is regulated by the fda for safety and the pepperoni pizza would be regulated by the department of agriculture. it doesn't make a lot of sense. >> you're absolutely right.
it boggles the mind, right? i also think, though, we can move away from the example of what is being done with pizzas and understand that a restructuring of our federal agencies, with the intent to dismantle social safety nets, that is nefarious and cruel in a way that is in many ways unamerican. i think we can all agree -- i hope we can all agree our social safety net programs help make america great. and i don't know if president trump really gets it or if he is just not aware of how hard some of his most ardent supporters poor, working class americans will be hit when the social safety net is ripped away. >> heather: do you think that's the intent. >> absolutely not. the democratic response is crying fire in a crowded theater. the main mission is to leave
government better than you found it. government should only do for the people what we can't do for ourselves. you have to do it well. that's what the president is trying to do here. some of the agencies that he is talking about have never been restructured since they were born into the government. they have only gotten bigger and we have to get back to the mission are what are these departments supposed to do? are they doing it well and cost effectively and do we need them? it's not about just canceling services. it is about being responsible. >> heather: let's listen to what mick mulvaney had to say over the years how nothing has changed. >> it has been almost 100 years since anybody really reorganized the government at this type of scale. it has been since fdr and new deal where he changed the way the government worked. we haven't changed it very much since then, it means we're almost 20% into the 21st century but still dealing with a government that is from the early 20th century. >> heather: he went on to point
out that president trump, his background as a businessman, businesses change all the time. this is what he does. >> businesses do change all the time and i think we can only look at the president's track record and so for example, when you look at scott pruitt, who is by far the most corrupt cabinet member in my lifetime, i think in all of our lifetimes, and get -- yet he hasn't been held accountable. so if the intention is really to drain the swamp, if the intention is really to cut costs, we've got an epa head who has spent more than the obama and bush administrations did combined in security detail. so again i think on the surface it looks good. you start to peel back the onion, take one layer deep. the administration is on the record in saying that the intention is to cut back, to
scale back these programs, and this is going to hit some of the president's ardent supporters the hardest. >> heather: brad, final word. >> the mission is not to hurt anybody. it is to make government more responsive and more responsible to the american people and to understand that government has to be nimble enough to change, nimble enough to understand what works and what doesn't, and have the courage and responsibility to make those changes for the people. the status quo is unacceptable. >> heather: thank you both for joining us. appreciate it. have a great weekend. >> bill: "outnumbered" is coming up in 10 minutes. a preview with kennedy and melissa. >> there you go. special k, i like that. house republicans delaying a vote on the compromised immigration bill as the president says they should wait until after the mid-terms. he says since democrats won't help they need more republicans in congress to get something passed. democrats say they are being shut out of the process.
we are going to debate it all. >> and it is deadline day for the d.o.j. to turn over all documents requested by congressional investigators. if they don't lawmakers are dangling threats of impeachment and contempt of congress. could that happen or will the justice department hand over the goods? >> i bet they'll do it. it's friday. all that plus our #one lucky guy, "outnumbered" top of the hour. be sure to watch. >> bill: this week we've heard a lot about the detention centers for children separated from illegal families on the border. phil keating gets an inside look at one of those centers. we haven't seen this a lot. phil is coming up next.
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facility housing unaccompanied migrant children in the state of florida. phil keating tells us what he found there in homestead, florida today. hey, phil. >> there are about 1200 illegal immigrant kids housed inside this facility, all of them between the ages of 13 and 17. the vast majority of these kids, more than 90%, entered the country without parents. they snuck across the border by themselves and were captured by border patrol. according to the shelter, fewer than 70 of those 1200 there today actually arrived recently with their parents have since been separated from their parents with their par interests in own detention centers. federal, state and local as well as media health and human services provided a group of 20 media representatives a tour inside this morning throughout the campus which lasted about an hour. we saw part of the highly structured daily life of these refugees, boys playing soccer and basketball. we were not allowed in with
cameras nor to talk to the kids. those were the rules. according to the federal office of refugee resettlement that oversees this facility the 1200 teenagers come from el salvador and honduras and crossed into the country illegal in texas, arizona or california. two nights ago agents released the video what it is like inside. what we saw in the tour that's how it looks. classrooms where the kids have six hours of academics each day. dormitories for boys, dorms for girls, segregated. each room six bunk beds. 12 kids to each room. cafeteria, much like a school cafeteria. all the kids walk around in single file. very structured. the agent tells us is goal is to provide a safe and secure environment. >> our average stay at 100 shelters in 17 days is 57 days. in those 57 days again we're
working to find a sponsor to place the child. then the sponsor takes care of that child and sponsor also has signed an agreement that said they will make sure these children go through their immigration proceedings. >> that's an absolute requirement. there is an attorney as well as nurses and doctors inside to give kids advice on the future they have to go through, which is with immigration proceedings. this is an emergency shelter of the 100 nationwide. this only opens when there is that much of an influx of illegal immigrants on the southern border and that's the case right now. >> bill: thank you, interesting look there. phil keating in florida. >> heather: house republicans forced to delay a vote on a compromised immigration bill while they work to corral enough votes. when will it come to the floor? ♪ george weber ma r
tonight at 9:00 eastern time. tune in tonight, set dvr, do whatever you need to see this. >> yeah, great hearing everyone's personal stories, including yours. >> likewise. thanks for being here. have a great weekend, everybody. >> on the work to reunite kids separated from their parents after crossing the border illegally, the justice department denying "washington post" report they stopped prosecuting adults who cross illegally. white house official says around 500 of the more than 2000 children separated since may have been reunited. this is outnumbered, i'm melissa francis, here host of "kennedy," kennedy, and abby huntsman, democratic strategist and fox news contributor jessica tarlov and co-host of juan williams is here. you are outnumbered.