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>> sandra >> we received a call as an active shooter. we do have fatalities and serious injuries and also have many, many witnesses that are being interviewed. >> sandra: meanwhile the newspaper staff defiant in the face of tragedy putting out today's edition with pictures of their five murdered colleagues with the headline. >> bill: griff, as we begin with you we're live on the air now. what do you have for the latest from indianapolis this morning? hello. >> in an hour and a half we'll have 38-year-old jarrod ramos appearing via teleconference facing five counts of first degree murder. we're learning more about his background and the history of making threats over social media and the defamation suit
he had against the capital gazette from 2013. it was dismissed. he was upset about an article written about his conviction in an harassment case against a woman who told officials ramos would next become a mass shooter. early in the hours this morning we're going to try to find out more about that. but again, while he held a grudge, there is still a lot of questions about the motive behind this horrific shooting, bill. we talked to the police chief here is what he had to say. >> we know what everyone else is saying about why. i want to know why he thinks he did this. that's a biggie for us. and quite honestly we're 18, 19 hours in now and we're hitting a frustration factor because we aren't getting a whole bunch of information out of him. >> the chief also telling us when it came to that story,
bill, about the mutilated fingers and not able to get fingerprints the chief confirmed that story is false. we're trying to find out how that story came to be. >> bill: early on in all this. what do we know about the victims, griff? >> we know they're being held as journalist heroes in that paper. as you mentioned a true act of defiance printing this morning. in fact, if you open up, you see within here, bill, a blank page where the opinion pages would normally be. they say in honor of those victims. this is certainly a community when i talked to the mayor that has been hit hard but they will get back up. interestingly enough, it was just a week ago at this very moment last friday that officials were doing an active shooter drill. and that perhaps explains why they were so quick on the scene, bill.
>> bill: remarkable. griff jenkins. thank you for that. more from annapolis coming up shortly. >> sandra: we're getting reaction from the white house. president trump tweeting my thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families. thank you to all the first responders who are currently on the scene. press secretary sarah sanders writing strongly condemn the evil act of senseless violence in annapolis, maryland. a violent attack on innocent journalists doing their job is an attack on every american. our prayers are with the victims and their friends and families. >> bill: it is stunning when it happens in a small beautiful town like annapolis. everybody is close and it is rocking that community. we should see an appearance perhaps if court 90 minutes from now. >> sandra: we'll watch for that. the other big story of the day. president trump meeting last night with a small bipartisan group of senators as he considers his pick to replace retiring supreme court justice anthony kennedy. speaking yesterday in wisconsin, the president pointing to his first supreme
court pick, neil gorsuch calling the process of nominating a justice, quote, the most important decision a president can make. >> president trump: we had a fantastic choice with justice gorsuch, i'm very proud of it. he is doing a fantastic job. and we're going to try and do just as good. so we'll start working on that process. we've already started and hopefully we'll make you very proud. >> sandra: we'll hear from the former governor of arkansas mike huckabee but first is kevin corke live at the white house this morning. what a week. >> what a week indeed. you know it's important when the president, traveling extensively. comes back here to the white house to conduct meetings that last well beyond 8:00 p.m. you pointed out a bipartisan group of senators came here to the white house. an interesting collection. we talk about the meeting ahead of his next selection for the
high court. a trio of democrats and a pair of republicans thought to be less than predictable at a minimum, collins and mer kowski. yesterday in wisconsin the president talked about the process and told the audience there it is full steam ahead. >> president trump: we're going to pick ourselves one great united states supreme court justice. [applause] to take the place of a great man, justice kennedy, really a great person, great man. i'm so honored that he decided to do this during our term. and i think that showed confidence in us. >> yesterday a rally spearheaded by democrats against the president's selection which for the record has yet to be made. >> this is a line that has been drawn about whether we are going to criminalize women, whether we are going to be
arresting women for making decisions about their bodies. this is not a fire drill. this is not a hypothetical case. >> there have been folks on capitol hill the president shouldn't make this pick at all because it's an election year and noting the fact that mitch mcconnell basically slow walked and then stalled ultimately that merit garland selection of president obama. the key distinction it's a mid-term election year, not a presidential election year. >> sandra: expect to hear a lot more on that. kevin corke at the white house. >> bill: our next guest weighing in mike huckabee. welcome to "america's newsroom." here is your tweet from last night. so glad real donald trump will appoint the next scotus justice but it is causing dems to melt
down. what do you mean? >> well, the fact is the democrats are being irrational. let me quote a famous politician barack obama who said elections have consequences. they do. we elect a president, he picks supreme court justices. it's the way it worked. i'm talking barack obama picked two. he had a right to do it and a lot of republicans voted to give him those picks. now democrats act like no, if it's a republican president he doesn't get to do that. why not? i think the democrats will be unhappy with whoever donald trump puts forward. if he put moses up for the possibility of being supreme court justice, the ultimate law giver of the 10 commandments they would still be against it. >> bill: i don't think moses is available this time around. who would you pick, if you have a name, and how do you think it changes america, if it does?
>> one of the things i feel very strongly about is that it shouldn't be that you pick somebody because you perceive them to be a conservative. that's the whole problem with the court. it has become an ideological court. it ought to be a constitutional court. the pick ought to be somebody who has great respect for the actual words of the constitution, what they meant when they were written, and until they're changed, to follow them. what we don't want liberal or conservative is somebody who wants to legislate from the supreme court bench. if you want to be a legislator, run for congress. you want to be a supreme court justice, look at the letter of the law and interpret it. but don't make it up. that's been the problem for the past 40 or 50 years with supreme court justices who thought they were members of congress. >> bill: we may get a pick before the moscow summit.
mitch mcconnell and his wife were the victims of a verbal assault. here is what he said about it last night. >> i loved it. it went viral on the internet and i have one tough wife and i'm proud of her. getting in people's faces in public places is not a great way to sell your point of view. i think everybody ought to have their fair say. >> bill: what do you make of that? some of the left say the gop and president started it. you talk about this a lot. civility in american life. >> well bill, i think the tragedy is a lot of people on the left think it is not enough to go and vote at the ballot box or even go to town halls and public meetings of political nature and express themselves or write letters to the editor. now it's about not just shutting down their views, but it is about shutting them down in a personal way. not allowing them to go to a movie or restaurant or pump gas as maxine waters said. don't let people do anything.
that's not a free society. that's not a place where liberty reigns. that's a place with fascism when you start telling people they can't live their lives normally and freely. we don't want that kind of society. i don't want it for people on the left. i would never want to shut down their businesses. my gosh, that defies everything i believe and love about america is that people can have different points of view. >> bill: appreciate your point of view this morning. mike huckabee with us today. enjoy the weekend. >> sandra: we'll have more on the supreme court nomination and a whole lot more with today's headliner kellyanne conway joins us live at the top of our 10:00 hour. >> bill: deputy a.g. rod rosenstein grilled by republicans at the hearing yesterday. watch here. >> i don't know why you won't give us what we've asked for. >> i hope your colleagues aren't under that impression. that is not accurate, sir. >> it is accurate. we've caught you hiding information.
>> can we allow the information to answer? >> bill: did lawmakers learn anything from this testimony? where are we now and bob goodlatte is our guest live next. >> sandra: president trump says he is looking forward to next month's meeting with vladimir putin. general jack keane joins us to talk about that high-stakes summit. >> bill: also meet a u.s. navy lieutenant and nascar driver who rescued a family from a burning minivan. hear his harrowing story of survival coming up. in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. the name to remember.
>> i am deputy attorney general of the united states, okay? >> you're the boss, mr. rosenstein. >> that's correct. >> why did you tell peter strzok not to answer our questions yesterday. >> i didn't give him any instructions. >> his bias is an appropriate explanation for his conduct. do you agree? >> i agree with the findings of the inspector general report and they indicate bias.
>> we need a date when you found out the wife of your deputy was working for people who were actively trying to undermine president trump. >> bill: a fiery hearing. just a sample as republican lawmakers clash with rod rosenstein over just about everything from his department's role in the trump campaign surveillance to alleged stonewalling of document requests by committee. congressman bob goodlatte led the operation yesterday. with me now back in virginia and thank you for coming back here and good morning to you. we have a second delay in the satellite. what did you learn through this back and forth? >> well, i got two things accomplished yesterday. first of all, a confirmation by the deputy attorney general of the united states that he agrees with the inspector general's report that there were many, many missteps made by the f.b.i. in the investigation into various actions by former secretary of
state hillary clinton and he confirmed that he agreed that was extreme bias reflected not just by peter strzok and lisa page but by others who were identified in that report. and therefore, that's confirmation that this investigation that we've been conducting needs to move forward because it now moves into what happened when peter strzok moved from the clinton investigation into the so-called trump/russia collusion investigation. secondly, we had the opportunity to address some of our concerns regarding the production of documents and the testimony of peter strzok in a private interview the day before. that interview was plagued by the f.b.i.'s counsel instructing him repeatedly not to answer questions that are very important to our investigation. so i got the opportunity to impress upon both the deputy attorney general rosenstein and director wray how important
that is. and to point out a new development, that is in the production of documents, which has been improving greatly and they have produced a tremendous number of documents, someone at the department of justice made the decision not to include communications within the department of justice. only within the f.b.i. or between the f.b.i. and the department. but if two people looking into the clinton matter or other matters related to our investigation were communicating with each other in the department of justice, those weren't produced. we got a commitment from the u.s. attorney, john lausch, to get on that right away. >> bill: four things. sounds like a lot. with regard to the strzok interview, when you say that the lawyer for the f.b.i. repeatedly interrupted him and refused to answer a number of questions, why would peter strzok appear before your committee? do you expect him to do that? or is this a case of peter strzok appearing, raising his right hand and taking the fifth amendment? >> well, we don't know what he will do when he testifies.
when he was allowed to answer questions, he answered the questions. some of his answers particularly regarding the explanation of a number of his outrageous text messages were completely unbelievable. but nonetheless, he will be back before the committee for a public hearing. that will take place soon. we do not have a date yet but we are getting close. we'll announce it soon. >> bill: okay. democrats are making the case that all you are trying to do to this committee is undermine the system of justice. what do you say to democrats? what do you say to americans who grew up trusting an f.b.i. and trusting the c.i.a. has that trust been broken, sir? >> we're all about making sure that the rule of law and our system of justice works very well and unfortunately as reflected in the inspector general's report, that broke down in 2016 and then on into
2017 with very unbalanced biased investigations leaning over backwards to make sure that hillary clinton did not get indicted. and then leaning into and launching an investigation in the presidential campaign related to donald trump and his campaign and we have a tremendous number of questions that the american people share and we'll get to the bottom of that. in the process, we're going to restore the reputation of the f.b.i. because director wray and general rosenstein both have been very committed to doing this. there has been a cleaning house there. six top people at the f.b.i. are now gone from director comey and the deputy director and mr. strzok i think is on his way out the door. that's a positive step. the director wray has also indicated he agrees with most, if not all of the recommendations made by the inspector general on how to
proceed in the future. they are implementing programs right now to make sure their agents know they cannot conduct themselves in 2020 or any other time the way they did in 2016. >> bill: i'm out of time. thank you for your time today. more to come on this clearly and see if and when peter strzok testifies. bob goodlatte, thank you, the chairman of the judiciary live from virginia. >> sandra: we're awaiting a court appearance by the suspect in yesterday's deadly shooting at a maryland newspaper and how police were able to respond to the scene in one minute. more on that in just a moments. >> the fact that we had done a drill less than a week beforehand. had to walk past those simulated victims and go to the shooter and take the shooter down. little did they know they would be actually doing that a week later. greatness of an suv?
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>> i'm very proud of that response but not only the speed of the response, but the courage they demonstrated in entering that building without a moment's hesitation, finding that shooter apparently hiding, and taking him into custody without shots being fired. >> sandra: police arrived on the scene within 60 seconds of the first gunshot. this as we await an appearance by this suspect jarrod ramos. that's expected to happen in about an hour. we'll likely see him from the detention center at which he is being held. he is facing five counts of first degree murder. let's bring in steve rogers, former member of the f.b.i. joint terrorism task force.
thank you for being here this morning. horrible occasion to have you. it comes with your work, right? 60 second response was key in the quickness with which the police responded to this. >> one of the most effective, efficient responses to a violent crime i've seen in recent history. this police department is a model for the rest of this country and that's a tribute to the command and control structure, police chief, supervisors on the scene and training, which is ultimately important in responding to these incidents. >> sandra: the training is really key as police forces across the country try to figure out how they can improve their response having these situations happen in our schools and our churches. >> police departments now what they call active shooter training. they actually go into buildings that could be potential targets, room to room, hallway to hallway. when they arrive on the scene they know exactly where to go and what to do.
>> sandra: amazing, 60 second response saved a lot of lives there. as far as the shooter is concerned, there were red flags here. >> the common denominator in the overwhelming number of these shootings is there are red flags. in this case there were many. we don't know the motive yet but it looks like it had something to do with some of the reporters writing articles about this individual. but any assault on a journalist is assault on the first amendment. that precious first amendment and we need to protect journalists in this country. once they become victims of violent crimes we're in real trouble. >> sandra: the acting police chief said it was a planned attack. he used smoke grenades when he entered the building we know. two law enforcement sources say ramos used a shotgun. what's amazing tying this back with the speed to which police responded to this there was never gunfire exchanged with the police and shooter. >> not at all.
it's indicative to how this police department was able to take him into custody without more casualties including their own men and women being shot. but it boils down to what we said earlier, the training is so important. tactical training and strategic training. all ended in what could have been a worse situation. >> sandra: one of the gazette reporters phil davis, this is another amazing aspect to this, a live tweeting going on. something that we have seen recently as well. he tweeted there is nothing more terrifying than hearing multiple people get shot while you're under your desk and hear the gunman reload. >> i can't imagine what went through the minds of these victims. how courageous were they even being able to tweet information out that perhaps the police or others needed in order to neutralize this individual. >> sandra: the president tweeted out thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families shortly
after the shooting took place. what a morning to look back how horrific that scene must have been for all of those victims and those people to go through this morning. >> to look back how this police department saved a lot of lives on that morning. >> sandra: thank you to them. thank you. bill. >> bill: almost 9:30 in new york city. republican lawmakers wanting answers on attempts to collect intelligence on the trump campaign. >> did peter strzok brief you on it? >> no f.b.i. personnel briefed me on it. >> bill: did congressman gates get the answers he was looking for? >> sandra: the top two gop candidates for florida's next governor duke it out in our fox news debate last night. >> are you prepared to endorse president trump in 2020? >> most aseweredly. i look forward to campaigning with him as gov more of florida.
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>> did you read the fisa application before you signed it? >> not going to comment. >> you won't say to this committee whether or not you read the document you signed associated with spying on people with the trump campaign. >> sandra: that's congressman matt gates demanding answers about the fisa application to carter page with yesterday's hearing with rod rosenstein and f.b.i. director christopher wray. congressman gates joins us live now. good morning. >> good morning.
i didn't think it was a trick question to ask the deputy attorney general if he had read the document that bears his signature that allows the united states government to spy on a presidential campaign. you would think that was a softball question. but it shows how mangled things have become at the department of justice and the f.b.i. and so we're hoping to get documents that will provide answers because we haven't been getting the answers from the senior leadership. >> sandra: you and your colleagues were demanding a lot of answers in that hearing room yesterday. did you get any? >> we certainly didn't get the answers we wanted. in addition to the clip you just showed, there seems to be now new inconsistency developing in the department of justice's story. they previously said they opened the trump/russia investigation on july 31 when they got communication about george papadopoulos. but when i asked what investigative activity occurred before july 31st, rosenstein and strzok both said that's classified. which is a weird answer, right?
if nothing happened before july 31st you think they would just say it. it may well be the president's claims that intelligence was collected against his campaign were, in fact, true. if the f.b.i. and department of justice made liars out of paul ryan and trey gowdy i think they'll have to answer for that. >> sandra: you know, you are saying a lot there, congressman. and we were watching these exchanges yesterday live on this program because the hearing started about now. and it got fiery and your colleague, trey gowdy, was certainly demanding answers as well. and this was another one of those fiery exchanges. watch this. >> we've seen the bias. we need to see the evidence. if you have evidence of wrongdoing by any member of the trump campaign, present it to the damn grand jury. whatever you got. finish it the hell up. this country is being torn
apart. >> sandra: you were there and you heard it, too. what did you think of that? >> well, i think it's a good thing that we've actually got someone before the congress that we're holding accountable. trey gowdy understands that bob mueller answers to rod rosenstein. if rosenstein wanted to accelerate the pace and show the american people where this investigation stands we could. all we know as the american people is the very same people that worked on hillary clinton's investigation then worked on the f.b.i.'s trump/russia investigation and then went to mueller's investigation while they were spewing venom and bias that the inspector general said cast a cloud whether the official acts of the government were affected by the bias. the inspector general is a democrat and critical of the staffing decision to take the very same people that had worked on the clinton investigation and then have them ultimately working for bob mueller as someone who worked on a number of public
corruption cases the inspector general said it was odd and not something that was a standard practice that we should replicate. time and again bad processes by the f.b.i. and department of justice and why we would like to see it come to a conclusion. >> sandra: congressman, the top democrat on the judiciary committee, the committee holding the hearing yesterday, said republicans are requesting documents they know they cannot have. he says this is all an effort -- you hear this from other democrats, this is an effort on the part of republicans to undermine the special counsel's investigation. what do you say back to that? >> i would say the special counsel has done a good enough job undermining his own investigation and the latest cbs poll more than half the country disapproves of the way mueller is handling the investigation. we either live in a country where at the end of the day it's elected people that make the decisions or we live in a country where unelected people like rod rosenstein who has never faced the voters get to
decide on these fundamental questions and our belief is there should be congressional oversight. it is troubling may 1 rod rosenstein said there is no constitutional bases for congressional oversight. he believes he answers to know one, not even the voters, congress or president. that's troubling to me and that's why we'll stay on the case and keep demanding documents and we'll hold their feet to the fire. >> sandra: final question. at the end of that exchange we played leading into you, with rod rosenstein, he told you we have absolutely conveyed all the questions chairman nunes has raised and optimistic we'll be able to respond to him fairly soon. have you had any further communication with d.o.j., rod rosenstein or do you expect to soon? >> well, that was not chairman nunes's viewpoint. he is very frustrated and angry to the point of contempt and impeachment if necessary to get the documents.
i'm proud to have devin nunes's back. we haven't gotten the answers we want and why yesterday the entire congress took a vote saying we demand the documents in seven days. if we don't get them a lot of pressure will fall to our leadership. will they defend our institution and prerogative for oversight or roll over for rod rosenstein and the rest of the folks at the d.o.j. frustrating our efforts? i hope they'll stand with us and i suspect they will. >> sandra: congressman matt gates fresh off the grilling of the heads of the f.b.i. and d.o.j. it was -- it was quite a hearing. a lot of people -- >> more to come. i would expect comey, lynch, strzok, we'll see them all in public and we should have the cameras on. >> bill: in the meantime the first lady melania trump returning to the border visiting a facility in tucson arizona. she pledged to do whatever she can on behalf of the detained children and their families.
back in washington hundreds arrested during a mass protest at the hart senate office building. demonstrators calling for an end to the administration's zero tolerance policy at the determine and the termination of ice. that seems to be a growing argument on the left. we'll see where it goes. kristin gillibrand came out in favor of that. we saw in the primaries on tuesday as well. watch it and see where it goes. >> sandra: president trump set to meet with russian president vladimir putin next month. so what should he hope to accomplish during this summit? we'll ask general jack keane. he is hear. >> bill: saying goodbye to a big piece of american nostalgia. closing its doors for good. what a sign of the times. >> sandra: look at that.
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song one half times and then my head explodes. out with it. >> president trump: we can all get along it will be great. the world has to start getting along. i think we'll be talking about syria and ukraine and talking about many other subjects and we'll see what happens. >> bill: we're getting ready for a high-profile talk as he gets set to meet with vladimir putin july 16th, a monday in finland, jack keane, lay it out for us. you believe president trump is looking forward to this. i imagine vladimir putin is as well. how do you size it up, sir? >> well, first of all putin has wanted this ever since the president got elected. putin is a bit of an international pariah, bill, because of his aggressive behavior. he has been excluded from the g8.
he hasn't been on the world stage the way he would like to be. what he wants out of this is a return of the degree of legitimacy for him to his domestic audience and number two he wants relief from some of the sanctions. president trump i think he looks at these things as a beginning to establish a relationship based on rapport, something he believes he did successfully with president xi at his first session with him in mar-a-lago. on the table, let's face it, there are some really tough issues here. thousands of people killed in ukraine as a results of russian intervention. hundreds of thousands killed in syria as a result of russia enabling assad to commit genocide against his own people. the fact that putin is back dooring north korea with fuel and other commodities to keep that nation propped up is an issue for us and meddling in the u.s. election will
obviously come up. it has already come up. ambassador bolton has gone out of his way, bill, not to raise the expectation bar. not even put a single issue on the table in terms of what we're trying to resolve. the president has talked about it. i think the issue that is on the president's mind more than anything else, bill, is syria. that's where we got our troops. he has already said he wants to get out of there at some point. i think he would like to work a deal with putin to push back on the iranian's participation in the hope the united states will at some point be able to disengage there if putin is willing to assist with isis as well. >> bill: that's very interesting the way you lay that out there and looking at the video, bolton and huntsman in moscow as well. do you think syria is the point where you get some give and take on this? because the issue with ukraine and north korea, some may argue those are intractable at the
moment. >> syria is the toughest problem on the internation scene by far. a raging civil war for six years, 9 to 10 million people displaced from homes. human catastrophe to be sure. the russians and the iranians have successfully propped up the assad regime despite all of our claims. >> bill: what would president trump give vladimir putin? is there a deal to be made on this? >> i think what he would do is -- what he has in his pocket is the fact the united states eventually will leave syria. and for that he wants something in return. i don't believe we should be leaving syria until we're finished with isis completely. we haven't finished with it completely. they're still down in southeastern syria. i think that's what the president is carrying in his pocket and he wants something in return for that. he would likely take the iranians pulling out of there. but why would they leave? they scored a major victory
here. it's their anchor in the middle east. >> bill: thank you. you believe the president is clear eyed going into this. there will be some drama, sir, thank you. come on back, jack keane, look forward to talking soon. >> happy fourth of july next week. >> sandra: president trump ramping up the pressure on harley davidson. >> president trump: harley davidson, please build those beautiful motorcycles in the usa, please, okay? don't get cute with us. don't get cute. >> sandra: so could the president get the company to change its mind about moving some of its production overseas? >> bill: u.s. navy lieutenant and nascar driver putting his life on the line to rescue a family from a burning minivan. that hero is live coming up.
>> sandra: a nascar driver being hailed a hero after pulling over on the side of a california interstate to help a family escape from their minivan as it burst into flames. joining us now is a two-time nascar diversity driver of the year u.s. navy lieutenant jesse. he joins us now. lieutenant. you are being hailed a hero. how does that feel? >> it's pretty crazy. the big thing is especially with what happened that day for me i don't consider myself a hero honestly. i was just doing the right thing and i think it's something that anyone could have done, anyone could have saw what was going on and leant a hand. unfortunately there wasn't many people who did try to lend a hand. i'm glad i was able to help and keep them from getting into a dangerous situation. >> sandra: you are coming home. you are returning from a raceway and just finished race,
correct? >> yeah, so saturday we had raced at sonoma raceway and finished the race top 15. the next day i stayed for the nascar cup race and after that i had a six-hour drive back home. hour five of the drive super tired, wanted to get home. saw this minivan sitting on the side of the road on the i-5 and i noticed there was a family of four right there and some of them were in the vehicle, some were out. they were going back and forth and i noticed underneath the vehicle the motor it was leaking a lot of fluid and there was a small candlelit fire that had started underneath. that's not good. being around race cars and being in the military and kind of knowing how quickly flammable fluids can go from small fire to big fire i decided i needed to stop and go render help. so i stopped. >> sandra: you knew time was of the essence and what was about to happen. it did indeed happen. it went up in flames. you have a message to share
with people because i know that you have since talked about this and you have put out a message to people don't go for your belongings. this family of four needed to get out and they were reaching for items that they didn't want to lose in their car and you said what? >> yeah, i walked up and the funny thing is at first i knew i had maybe a few moments maybe to see if i could try to save the situation. we did try to get the minivan into neutral and push it away from burning fluids. it didn't work. i said everyone get away right now. we got 20 or 30 yards away and turned around and the motor burst into flames. from there half of the car burst into flames and got back to the fuel cell and the whole minivan was a huge fireball. with california and the dry brush that was everywhere my next thought i could see a
california fire starting right here. it was a dad, mom, two kids. i don't think -- >> sandra: you are a hero and the family is grateful for you and we are, too. not everybody stops to help when they see people in trouble. >> bill: well done, man. >> sandra: thank you. >> bill: great stuff. >> sandra: we'll be watching you on the racetrack. >> bill: good luck, jesse. thank you for your time here. bracing for a showdown at the capitol. major political clash over president trump's nominee for the supreme court. kellyanne conway is on deck top of the hour. come on back. keep your most valuable insights hidden from your competitors. the ibm cloud. the cloud for smarter business. the ibm cloud. but how do i know if i'm i'm getting a good deal? i tell truecar my zip
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>> sandra: the suspect in the shooting rampage in a maryland newsroom will be arraigned in court in a half hour. he is facing five counts of first degree murder. we'll take you there live. good morning and welcome to a new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm sandra smith. >> bill: good morning, sandra, i'm bill hemmer. more on that shooting in a moment. now full steam ahead for the trump team in finding the next nominee for the u.s. supreme court which brings us to our newsroom news feed. let's go. >> going back to washington and we're going to pick ourselves one great united states supreme court justice. justice kennedy really a great person, great man. i'm so honored that he decided
to do this during our term. and i think that showed confidence in us. when i ran for president, i started hearing outside of obviously defense and all of that, the most important decision a president can make is the picking of united states supreme court justices if you're lucky enough to do that. we had a fantastic choice with justice gorsuch, very proud of it, doing a fantastic job. and we're going to try and do just as good. so we'll start working on that process. we've already started and hopefully we'll make you very proud. >> bill: let's get to it with kellyanne conway, senior counsel to the president joins us from the white house. good morning and welcome back. it's a friday and you are in the hot seat here, okay? let's get to the supreme court first. what is the state of the
process, if there is not yet a short list of nominees, where is the president's head on this? >> you saw last night the president return from a two-day trip out meeting with americans and came here and met with senators from both parties because it is the senate's job constitutionally could advise the president on such matters and the president is taking their advice. at the same time it will be a presidential decision. this president going back to the campaign for two straight years now has been very transparent and therefore accountable with respect to the type of person, indeed the specific individuals he would consider to put on the nation's highest court. yes, as you just mentioned he elevated justice neil gorsuch, outstanding in his first term and a half on the supreme court. look also what a president has done in the u.s. circuit courts. 21 confirmed judges on the u.s. circuit courts. one out of eight u.s. circuit judges now is a trump appointee.
we already see the way the president approaches this. i think neil gorsuch in his confirmation hearings put it best when it came to hot button issues like abortion where he said it settled precedent and not my job and not relevant whether i like a particular precedent or don't. i know people on the other side who are really losing at every turn politically and they will try to make this about one or two issues. we know that the supreme court covers any number of issues under the constitution in a given term. this week and last week they decided about union dues, compelling them to use it for political purposes and ruled in the president's favor on travel ban and released opinions recently on internet taxes. so the court is very active on a breadth of issues. this president has said he will choose from the list and very clear in his appointment the
type of jurist he likes. a constitutionalist. >> bill: does he make a decision before the summit with vladimir putin? >> he may. i don't think the timeline has anything to do with the summit. this president is an original multi-tasker. he does many different things in a given moment and week. the sheer volume of the way he works is mind numbing to many people. i find it a privilege. a timeline won't be according to the summit as much as the president takes seriously the vacancy and knows we should move with some dispatch in filling that vacancy. >> bill: we'll put it on a maybe based on the timeline. >> he is a guy who moves on everything. >> bill: maybe sooner. >> maybe sooner. i think that person could be confirmed this year. why not? >> sandra: that being said, this summit coming up with
vladimir putin. what is president trump hoping to accomplish and get done in that summit? >> he made very clear a couple of things. one is to improve relations with countries and its leaders where we can. where it makes sense for the united states of america and peace loving people everywhere to improve relationships. the president follows the same model he did with the singapore summit and mr. kim with russia. i sent one of his top security officials in the case of north korea secretary pompeo, in the case of russia, security advisor john bolton. that person goes over there and lays the ground work. you get other people working on logistics. this president has said from the beginning he is willing to talk to leaders when it is in the best interest of america. if russia and the united states of america can work on national security issues together the president will do that. at the same time this president
has had no reluctance whatsoever to push back when he has felt it is appropriate. telling russian officials. pushing back an assad and i want to say one more thing. you had president obama whispering in a hot mic that he would have more flexibility after the next election. you have this president as transparent as can be on going over there. that's a much better way to be president. >> bill: to have a summit like this you have to get a win/win. what is the win/win for each? is it a deal on syria and where the ground could move? >> the win/win is having the conversation to begin with. another win would be the president's vision with respect to syria. this president has pushed back on assad twice when he has gassed his own people with support of russia. continuing the conversation about nuclear capable north korea, nuclear capable iran. this president is so active around the globe to not involve russia in some of these
conversations and i'm sure because this is what the media will say, too, what are you talking about with respect to interference in elections? everything is on the table. when mr. putin and president trump met the last time, that particular one-on-one meeting lasted much longer than people anticipated. i don't know why they were anticipated a certain timeline. it covered an array of topics and you can expect that to happen again. >> sandra: what a hearing it was yesterday kellyanne, christopher ray and rod rosenstein, the heads of the f.b.i. and d.o.j. sat in a hearing room and faced a grilling from republican lawmakers. was the president able to witness a few of those exchanges? what were his thoughts when he looked at really the anger and frustration that we continue to see in this case from house republicans over lack of documents getting handed over and lack of quite frankly questions getting answered? >> again, you see the transparency and accountability
of the process. it was a televised briefing. folks are under oath when they're answering those questions and director wray and deputy attorney general rod rosenstein made clear they feel they are complying with the request. some of the republicans and others disagree. the house passed a bill yesterday or passed a bill and so -- >> sandra: resolution. >> yes, resolution, excuse me. the fact it is true that many americans are tiring with the length of the process here. that is true if you look at the polls, the number of people who are saying the investigation is a good idea has gone on too long or interfering with other thing. the president of the united states does not allow it to interfere with his major duties, which is to be the chief economic steward of our nation's economy. it could not be doing any better than it is. we're having a six month tax cut job cuts anniversary here today. >> bill: benghazi went on for 2
1/2 years. >> i find that comparison to be wanting. >> bill: i know the president was traveling in wisconsin yesterday. did he watch the hearing? did he watch any of it? >> he can access clips any time he wants. he is aware and briefed on everything of that nature. he certainly knows that -- he knew the hearing was taking place and knew some of the highlights if not the specifics. everybody has been playing their choice, chosen clips from the last day. so i think the president could not be more clear. he tweets about it and puts it on social media and talks about it freely often that he believes this is a witch hunt and there was no collusion. he goes back to what we were promised at the very beginning of this, which is that this changed votes and he wasn't duly elected. that's a load of bunk and everybody knows it. he was democratically elected and doesn't let it get in the way presiding over the strongest economy if not our lifetimes if not ever and
continuing to meet with leaders here in america, but across the globe and at different summits to try to bring more peace and prosperity wherever he can. >> sandra: chief of staff, what are the plans there? what is the president actively doing right now as far as looking for a replacement? >> i don't understand these stories. the media is ants in a sugar cube focus on one thing. it seems to come up every month or two or three. i went back and looked at a bunch of inquiries from february, from december, now from june. they all say the same thing. i did not respond to them. here you have responses directly from the president and from our chief of staff john kelly yesterday that it's all news to them. we have a chief of staff. i'm delighted to serve under chief of staff kelly and i work with him and whoever the president asks me to work with across his administration. i know it's easier and maybe
more fun for folks to play the parlor game and learning the intricacy of policy here. but i guess eventually everybody is going to leave and eventually everybody who said people will be leave will be right. it's odd for that to dominate the coverage. >> bill: just to be specific. general kelly is staying, is that what you are saying? >> as far as i know general kelly wants to stay and he is staying. he hasn't said anything differently to me. i come here to work every day with the team that the president has asked us all to work with and we do. i find this place to be much more streamlined and sophisticated and running in a very good way a year and a half into the presidency and we don't run around wondering who is leaving next or forced out. we get to work every day and so much on our plate as you know. it's not one of them. i'll leave that to them. >> bill: what does the white house have to say given the shooting in annapolis just up the road from you? >> it's a horrible tragedy. what we're trying to -- us
being all of america, is piece together that this person, shooter, murderer had some kind of grievance against the paper. he filed a lawsuit and lost it and active on social media. the very threatening it seems to me, about this paper and went in yesterday and did what he did. the president expressed his sympathy and continues to be briefed by the f.b.i. and others and we'll continue to talk about this as the different facts develop. obviously people who go to work every day, innocent americans should not have this as an occupational hazard. i think as our press secretary made clear last night an attack on innocent journalists and americans is an attack on all of us. >> sandra: what are the president's plans next week. fourth of july week and he will be making a trip out to montana? >> the plan is for him to go to montana on july 5th and the day before the president and first
lady will host for the second consecutive year the military families here at a picnic and later celebrate america's independence. our 242nd year of our nation's independence on the south lawn. the fireworks display for all to see and we're very excited because it's a great celebration of our nation's independence. this president has done a great deal to advance the cause of democracy and freedom. everything from economic freedom to national security freedom and our ability to be free and prosperous. >> bill: you came on to talk about taxes, six-month anniversary today. what do you think the impact of the tax plan has been on america today? go ahead and sell it. >> it's been very positive. any metric you look at the confidence numbers, historic confidence numbers among consumers and small business owners and manufacturers. the job creation, the growth numbers, all the critics saying
you can never get it above 3%. that's fantasy. it is projected to be well above 4%. i think what it's done in addition to giving the millions of americans -- hard working americans the bonuses and raises, it has simulated growth and a -- people feel free to move around in the job market. 6.7 million available jobs now out paces the number of actual job seekers. it gives people freedom to think about their next job or career move. the -- 300 billion dollars that was parked overseas and companies can now bring back. the corporations are investing in the workplace and workforce. and also you see the childcare tax credit. people feel like they can make more free decisions. i think the number one
byproduct of tax cuts is freedom, individual freedom and liberty. >> bill: thanks for being here today. we covered a lot of ground and have a great weekend. happy july 4th to you and everybody at the white house. >> happy birthday, america. >> sandra: can president trump force harley davidson to hit the brakes on plans to move some of its production overseas? the american icon at the center of the fight over trade tariffs. we'll have more on that next. just how much resistance with president trump's eventual supreme court nominee have in congress. >> we expect to get a nomination from the president rather soon. and we should be able to work our way through the confirmation process sometime before early fall.
company announced it is planning to shift some of its production overseas because of those tariffs. bill mcgurn joins us now. the president sending a message there. is it being received? >> right. well, i think there is a larger message being received. that's the proposals for 31% tariffs in europe on harley davidson. harley is like a lot of american companies whether it's mcdonalds, ford or something. a lot of their customers are overseas now. i understand the motorcycle market is mature in the u.s. so i also understand that these tariffs that the europeans would put on would add $2200 to each motorcycle. a lot of people don't manufacture here for that reason. foreign companies build their cars here to avoid different taxes and tariffs. >> bill: don't get cute. >> they have to make a profit and this is one of the problems, i think, when you go
down the tariff road are supply chains are complex. nothing is usually built with purely components from one country in one country. it comes from all over. to try to get the cheapest and best parts. >> bill: you have a deadline, july 6th. do you think they get it settled or do they go into effect the end of next week? >> i don't think they get it settled. >> bill: it will royal the markets. >> sandra: a lot of it out there. as far as the tax situation is concerned. a lot of that is already into the market. i don't have to tell you that. i wonder how important this becomes as we move into mid-terms and in november to really see how the effects of this play out politically. >> you mean of the president's trade policy. >> sandra: i mean on taxes. you heard kellyanne conway selling it. >> she is right on the taxes. the tax cut was a tremendous achievement and the economy is going full blast and it is an odd argument to think the tax
cuts had nothing to do with this. wasn't it just a few years ago the obama officials were telling us that under 2% growth was the new normal and we had to get used to it? a version of -- not only does it make a difference in people's lives in terms of new jobs and higher pay, it is unparalleled. economic growth for each 1% of growth the effect on the average citizen of compounded wages basically, you can't do anything that would equal that. >> bill: my sense is this is a president who keeps one eye on the market every day and if you've got a mid-term in 4 1/2 months now, this is a market that he wants and hopes to keep strong until then. >> i hope he does, too. >> bill: when you fold that in with the tax cuts. >> it's the biggest selling point and like them to get off
other things that i think might be a distraction. i think the trade policy is a little bit of a distraction. a lot of it is how people feel. we saw it with bill clinton. the benefits of a booming economy overrideed some of the scandals and so forth when he was president. >> bill: when you see him holding a shovel in southeastern wisconsin for the breaking of the foxconn plant. >> people can feel it's real. i have a daughter just graduated from college looking for a job. it is a great time to be looking for a job. i'm not sure i would have said that a year ago. >> or the previous 10 years. >> i think a lot of people -- what people want -- what people want is to think tomorrow is going to be better than today especially for their children, right? that there will be opportunities. that's the american dream. tomorrow will be better than today. the opportunities are going to be more and people are feeling that now. it was something that again a few years ago we were told was not possible.
>> sandra: it is really something you're talking about gdp, tax cuts and tariffs but not about the stock market. we haven't heard from this administration. the market took a breather. >> the market isn't the economy as reflected. it's dangerous to look at that. >> bill: do you have a supreme court pick? >> i like a lot of the people on the list. my understanding i don't know any more than you. it's between cavanaugh who i used to work with in the white house, and amy coney barrett. i'm happy with that list. i'll put it that way. >> bill: thank you, bill mcgurn. have a great weekend. a lot of breaking news. we'll get back here. in five minutes the suspect will be m court in an hour. police will give us an update on the final news conference.
then at 12:15 president trump addresses the shooting for the first time on camera. so all that is coming up live when it begins you'll see it here on fox. >> sandra: the sparks fly during a heated hearing on capitol hill. republican lawmakers dig for answers from the top brass of the d.o.j. and f.b.i. the "america's newsroom" a-team is on deck. or dings on this truck. they all got a story about what happened to 'em. man 2: it was raining, there was only one way out. i could feel the barb wire was just digging into the paint. man: two bulls were fighting, (thud) bam hit the truck. try explaining that to your insurance company. woman: another ding, another scratch. it'll just be another chapter in the story. every scar tells a story, and you can tell a lot more stories when your truck is a chevy silverado. the most dependable, longest-lasting, full-size pickups on the road.
>> bill: 10:30. first court hearing for the man accused in the deadly shooting at a maryland newspaper. police say he opened fire with a shut gun killing five and injuring two others. police announcing they'll hold a news conference, the final news conference, in one hour. it's 11:30 eastern time. we'll watch that. president trump will talk about it at 12:15 from the white house in washington the 38-year-old suspect had a year's long history making threats against the paper
including several on social media right before the attack. he has been charged with five counts of first degree murder and he came looking for specific victims. >> this person was prepared to come in. this person was prepared to shoot people. his intent was to cause harm. >> blown to pieces. it was in shattered pieces on the carpet and this guy was holding a big shotgun and moving across the entrance of the capital gazette office pointing the gun deeper into the office like he was targeting people. >> bill: president trump tweeting i was briefed on the shooting in annapolis, maryland. my thoughts and prayers with the victims and their families. thank you to all the first responders who are currently on the scene, end tweet there. more to come on this in one hour. >> that interview was plagued
by the f.b.i.'s counsel instructing him repeatedly not to answer questions that are very important to our investigations. when he was allowed to answer questions, he answered the questions, some of his answers, particularly regarding the explanation of a number of his outrageous text messages, were completely unbelievable. >> sandra: that was chairman bob goodlatte during an interview talking to bill last hour about anti-trump agent peter strzok. let's go to "america's newsroom" a-team. juan williams is the fox news political analyst and co-host of the five. ed henry the chief national correspondent and shelby holiday the video reporter for the "wall street journal." that was quite a hearing yesterday and you heard from the chairman. what was your big takeaway. >> this i.g. report, which was much hyped for many months has been overshadowed. it hasn't gotten enough attention. i think the reason is the big
story a week or so ago was migrant children on the border and rightly so, a big story. we end the week with justice kennedy and some other big stories we'll get into in a moment. bottom line for me is this is an interesting i.g. report that says there was no bias at the f.b.i. in terms of the handling of hillary clinton and the handling of donald trump except the rest of the report has hundreds of pages of text messages saying stop donald trump at all costs, we need an insurance policy to stop him. and i can already see the frown on juan's face and he will tell me i'm wrong. the fact of the matter is how can you say there was no bias at the f.b.i. when you have hundreds of pages of text messages saying the opposite? >> sandra: will you tell ed henry he is wrong? >> i never have and never will. well, you know, they can have bear summits sometimes work. what strikes me is that we had an explosion of emotion at the hearing yesterday. i think trey gowdy was going at
not only rod rosenstein but at times it looked to me he just wanted to take on the whole justice department, the f.b.i., everybody else and say you guys are tearing america apart. i think that's what he said. the russians aren't losing, america is losing because this goes on and on and divides us. i think part of the point. there is no question. the russians intended to divide us and played to the existing divisions. >> sandra: should mueller wrap it up? >> at this point you want him to do an exhaustive, complete and accurate investigation. >> sandra: the point is it has gone on a long time. >> if i was rod rosenstein, how long did that benghazi take place? i believe it was years, mr. gowdy. you can play both ways. yes, we want answers. everybody wants to know we're hearing the truth. going on about some agent text message to his girlfriend. talk about being in the weeds. you are trying to distract
people. >> bill: without the i.g. we wouldn't see the text messages. >> sandra: i don't know if it accomplished much. it was a time to air grievances, the resolution the house passed carries no legal force and i just think it is interesting when you are watching a committee that shut down their investigation and democrats say we didn't really do a full investigation, they're standing there demanding things from the justice department. they want records, yet i don't believe they've turned over transcripts from their investigation and haven't made the unclassified transcript public because the way in which they conducted the investigation and it has become to political it's hard to say it was a productive, helpful thing for the american people. >> bill: the rubber will meet the road when peter strzok testifies, if he does testify. listen to what chairman goodlatte said about the interview that went on for 11 hours on wednesday. when you think about the f.b.i. attorney who repeatedly prevented strzok from answering questions.
>> right. >> bill: what i take away from that is that peter strzok is not going to do this under oath. >> he better do it under oath and here is why. when we heard a week or so ago peter strzok's lawyer said he has been battered and beaten and wants to tell his side of the story. great. there is a presumption of innocence in this country. he shows up but not he doesn't talk about the f.b.i. lawyers jump in and say he can't answer that. what are they hiding? juan can say it's strzok texting his girlfriend. it was about substance and the investigation, juan. if it's not a big deal and pillow talk, why did the f.b.i. lawyer say don't answer that? >> i don't know what the question was, ed, >> i don't either but they keep blocking it. >> it would be nice to have the transcript. >> you have an ongoing investigations. both sides know there are national security interests and
the possibility of people changing their stories. they may have said to him on some questions hey, hold off. but as to what he texted, i don't know the question was why are you texting you don't like donald trump? how many americans would get caught in that trap? >> sandra: does it raise red flags that they won't turn over the documents republicans are asking for in so long? >> i don't think it's out of keeping with the way investigations are done in washington and around the world. they hold on to as much information as long as possible. i don't like it as a reporter, i'm trying to crack the case but it is my experience. >> you're right, there would be anti-trump text messages from all kinds of people out there like there would be anti-hillary text messages from other pieces. you are a commentator and journalist. this was the f.b.i. agent running the clinton investigation. the point people miss. you can't be doing anti-trump stuff when you are supposed to be nonpartisan. >> i appreciate it. the counter point is then the
one that gets screwed on this is not donald trump, it is hillary clinton. >> she didn't come out of this fairly, either. >> it is incredible to me. it's the trump people pointing out peter strzok is biased. not only was he mean to hillary clinton, he wanted more power to go after hillary clinton. >> he wasn't mean to her. >> i think it underscores the frustration that everyone has with the investigation because everybody wants to know more. mueller is working behind is scenes. very complex investigation and many cases he has to wait for foreigners to land in the u.s. before he can question them. it is hard to speed up these investigations. we would love to know everything going on behind the scenes. i'm not sure the american people will be able to end their -- come together and end their divisions until we do know more. >> sandra: there is tension. >> bill: i think we're dreaming. let's go to supreme court. sound bite number two with mitch mcconnell on with shannon last night hoping to draft democratic support when the
vote finally happens. >> we're hoping there will be some democratic support. remember justice gorsuch got at least three senate democrats who supported his confirmation. those individuals are still in the senate. we're not assuming this is just going to be a straight party line vote. >> bill: any democrats vote for whomever the pick is in an election year? >> right now you would look at three. heitkamp possibly manchin, maybe go to indiana. but i think on this one you will get counter pressure. last time when it was neil gorsuch there wasn't a counter pressure. i think schumer let democratic senators go. this time i think because of the great concern -- >> how many voted for gorsuch. >> i think it was three. why the president invited those three to the white house. >> bill: you have susan collins
and murcowski. >> under covered. the president did a smart thing last night. he invited those three democrats we mentioned and two moderate republicans, the chair of the senate judiciary committee saying let's talk about this. he will pick who he wants. that's what presidents do. if we can bring in some folks early in the process and consult with them that's smart. there are so many of the democrats in the states that trump carried, manchin votes against the president's pick and he is in trouble. >> a pledge of president trump's on the campaign trail to remake the supreme court. you cannot underestimate the stakes here in this battle. schumer says it's the most important vacancy in a generation. that's his argument for wanting to hold this up. i do think the president is moving fast and wants to have a pick before july 11th and have hearings in august and a nomination and confirmation before the mid-terms. there is a purpose.
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(vo) you can never have too many faithful companions. that's why i got a subaru crosstrek. love is out there. find it in a subaru crosstrek. >> bill: what a week. throw a dart, right? who won the week. our a-team is back here, juan williams, ed henry and shelby holliday. >> what about sandra? >> bill: bret does winners and losers on friday. who won the week? >> president trump by a mile. we start the week with the nonsense about the resist movement saying sarah sanders can't eat dinner with friends and family at a restaurant. how ridiculous was that. fast forward the week ends with -- nothing more serious in terms of politics and policy and the future of this country
than another supreme court pick that will literally shape where we're headed on abortion and a bunch of other policies over the next few decades. it starts with the nonsense and now you've got something that's real that i think the left it's finally sunk in. donald trump won the election. they have a year and a half. it's finally sunk in. you see the freak out over the last 48 hours over the kennedy retirement. harris said the constitution is being shredded and all this other stuff. the president hasn't even picked somebody. when he won that election hillary clinton knew full well that was one of the things. >> bill: he is on a roll. the trump bull market right now the past couple weeks. >> i think his campaign won the week. promises kept. supreme court decision on the travel ban was huge. the supreme court said you can keep tweeting, you can keep inflammatory rhetoric on the campaign trail and say whatever you want to say. you do have the authority to secure the borders and act in
the national interest of america. national security interest. i think this comes under the big column of promises kept. the president trump can keep being trump and keep forging on. >> it's pretty close. mitch mcconnell is a big winner this week. he is a big winner, the senate majority leader who blocked merritt garland, president obama's selection for a year. with the idea that gee, maybe a republican would win. here comes trump and you get gorsuch. now you start to understand the real implications of what mitch mcconnell did. he opened the court to be fixed that you will get a strong conservative voice specifically on abortion. >> hang on. the loser is harry reid. he opened the door. >> he did not. >> he ended filibusters on lower court judicial nominations, not supreme court. >> other presidential nominations sglao. that was one
for the supreme court is the master work not from my perspective. it was rather sort of destructive in terms of not only the protocol in the senate but i think this will hurt the country. because i think faith in that institution the supreme court of the united states will plummet. people will say well it's run by the conservatives or it's run -- it's all political. >> sandra: rapid fire. >> free traders lost the week. tensions are ratcheting up with china and hearing the president is threatening to pull out of the world trade organization. people who support free trade are a little scared right now. >> i think for me the big loser this week was republicans in the house who said we'll get an immigration bill done. don't worry about it. >> bill: probably not going to happen. >> the republicans got off the hook. a big failure. the big loser is the red hen restaurant. they'll have to rename it the blue hen since they only let democrats in. >> bill: now serving.
thank you. shelby mentioned, you forget about the travel ban. you forget about the union dues. >> sandra: our news cycle is incredible. >> bill: it's the biggest story ever until next tuesday. >> sandra: anybody got anything for bill? >> watch us this weekend. >> sandra: thank you. "america's newsroom" a-team. california passing america's toughest online privacy law. what tools people now have against companies that collect their personal data. the 24/7 crew is here and they're entering the studio. build and run apps anywhere you like, while keeping your competitors at bay. the ibm cloud. the cloud for smarter business.
>> bill: california lawmakers signing off on the nation's toughest data privacy law giving consumers more control over whether or not companies store their information and what they do with it. >> sandra: 24/7 crew is here, thank goodness. brett larson, jared max. what do we know about this, brett? >> it is a really good thing. we've had so many data breaches over the past -- take a week there has been -- millions of people and you can almost guarantee we've all had our data compromised at this point.
there has been enough of them. what to do in that situation. we can't rely on the companies to fix it because they aren't doing it. and so we have this piece of legislation from california. it's a good idea and goes into effect in 2020. what i like about it, it is not something the voters did. it wasn't a ballot initiative but the legislators did. it will give them wiggle room should it go into effect saying it is too much. >> bill: what does it say? >> you have to know what companies are taking from you, what data they're collecting and why they're doing it as well as if they're giving it to a third party company. in a facebook situation they'll have to tell you, these are the advertisers that have your personal data and the data we're collecting about you and why we're collecting the data. >> bill: the facebook hearing with zuckerberg taught us that the companies are making a lot of money off this >> that's how they're funded. >> i think it's lip service. it all looks pretty 2020. all the do-not-call lists we've
signed up for. now we get calls on our cell phones. >> you don't answer them, don't you? >> if you ever made that mistake they keep coming. >> you can't do nothing. doing nothing has not worked. you have to do something. this is a step in the right direction. >> we'll see how it works out. >> sandra: be careful what websites you log onto and enter the personal information. meanwhile you have news in the baseball world? >> what an interesting story. the detroit tigers fired their pitching coach, an 11 year pitcher in major league baseball for firing making incentive comments. they said they were racially charged comments. it turns out that chris bassio was talking not about a clubhouse employee who is african-american who misunderstood him, but he says he was making comments about a pitcher named daniel stumpf on the team and he calls him spider monkey. that's his nickname.
daniel stumpf tells the detroit free press he hasn't called me that. not a nickname i'm familiar with. he was let go and asked -- the coach was let go. the team said did you use that word monkey? he says yes. i used that term but he was talking about somebody else. yet the pitcher says spider monkey not a nickname i'm called. chris bassio was out of a job. he says where do i go to get my reputation back? does he file a suit for wrongful termination? was this misunderstood? george carlin said it is not about the words but the context. here it's the words and context and interesting to see how it goes. had the pitcher said he calls me that all the time, different story. this is his first season with the team but he had been a previous pitching coach and spent 11 years in baseball and highly regarded. whether or not he said something he shouldn't have said or if we've become that sensitive. >> or moving into a court case?
you usually bring a highlight. that's a different kind of highlight the way that story is developing in baseball. thank you both. all good. >> happy friday. >> bill: breaking news. want to get back to the story in maryland. awaiting the state attorney set to speak after the arraignment after the alleged annapolis shooter. the president will talk about this in about an hour from now. we're watching all the cameras and microphones and we'll bring it to you when it happens coming up here live on "america's newsroom." the first survivor of alzheimer's disease is out there. and the alzheimer's association is going to make it happen. but we won't get there without you. visit alz.org to join the fight.
friday morning. i'm sandra smith. >> bill: hour three. nice to see you, sandra. i'm bill hemmer. jarrod ramos is accused of a targeted attack at an annapolis paper. he shot out the door and went looking for victims. five killed, two wounded. officers on the scene arrived within 60 seconds of the first shot and they're praising the first responders because of it. >> the fact that we had done a drill less than a week beforehand and i had watched these guys come in and practice. they stepped over simulated victims, head shots and chest shots. i've been in that newsroom and i know when someone comes through the glass door there is nowhere for anyone to hide. they had a typical newsroom situation. just desks and no cover. >> sandra: kris jenkins is reporting live from annapolis this morning. chris. >> good morning, sandra. it was just inside the courtroom here and it will be about an hour before ramos
ma ramos. there was a surveillance camera within the business and the surveillance was reviewed positively identifying ramos and that ramos tried to conceal himself under a desk after killing the five individuals and waited for police there. also in the courtroom this is judge thomas's courtroom. the states attorney wes adams who will come out to the microphones after the bail hearing happens and the police chief here. we spoke to him earlier about what he is learning so far on the investigation and here is what he had to say. >> we did get some physical evidence that might help us from his apartment. but we didn't get the definitive here is why. i would like to see that. >> is he cooperating at all with you? >> we aren't getting much cooperation at all. >> we'll see if he does cooperate in the videoconference. we did not see an attorney yet representing him. i'll go back in there and find out. i have to mention the other part of this story, sandra, which is the defiance of the capital gazette newspaper publishing today and identifying the five victims.
so a lot happening here and clearly as we've talked all morning long a history of threatening -- ramos threatening this newspaper. perhaps we'll get more indication from the state's attorney when he speaks to us in a little bit. >> sandra: we'll wait for that. thank you. >> bill: in the meantime president trump offering his thoughts and prayers to the families of the victims in that shooting. we speak to kellyanne conway, counselor to the president last hour about this very topic. >> the president expressed his sympathies. continues to be briefed by the f.b.i. and others and will continue to talk about this as the different facts develop. >> bill: that from last hour. kevin corke live at the white house this hour. how soon before we hear from the president weighing in on the shooting in maryland? >> we do know the president will be addressing the nation on the six-month anniversary of his tax cuts and jobs act. that will be happening in the east room a little after 12:00 today. around 12:15.
we believe and have been assured by our sources at the white house that the president will, in fact, address the deadly shooting in maryland. let me share for the folks at home what the president had to say in the hours after the deadly shooting which claimed the lives of five journalists. prior to departing wisconsin i was briefed on the shooting. the most important part of this tweet. thank you to all the first responders who are currently on the scene. as i mentioned, that shooting claiming the lives of five journalists, not to shock and shake the community but clearly that impact can be felt right here at the white house. >> horrible tragedy. what we're trying to -- us being all of america, is piece together that this shooter, this murderer had some kind of grievance against the paper. had filed a lawsuit, lost the lawsuit and seems to have been very active on social media,
very threatening as our press secretary made clear an attack on innocent journalists and innocent americans is an attack on all of us. >> no matter how many times we have to cover a stories like this it never gets easier. sanders called it an evil act of senseless violence. >> bill: what is the latest on the president's search for a new supreme court justice? >> you know it's big when the president comes home after traveling all over the country and is conducting meetings at the white house, bill, after 8:00 in the evening. let me share a picture of some of the participants of a gathering at the white house last night that began around 7:15 and lasted for quite some time ahead of his next selection for the high court. a trio of senate democrats from red states. manchin, donley, heitkamp, a pair of republicans collins and murcowski whose votes are less predictable and there with chuck grassley.
sanders called it part of an ongoing outreach to get views and advice from both sides of the aisle. here is what the president said about it in wisconsin. >> president trump: we're going to pick ourselves one great united states supreme court justice. [applause] to take the place of a great man, justice kennedy. he is really a great person, great man. i'm so honored that he decided to do this during our term and i think that showed confidence in us. >> as you can well imagine, bill, passions running high on this issue. it seems every time there is a new supreme court justice to be named there will be protests. it was the case once again. democrats spearheading a gathering against the selection which has yet to be made. we expect to get more details, bill, very shortly on the so-called short list. right now the names vote
floated are the familiar ones. among them mike lee from the state of utah. >> sandra: for more on the president's big decision on who should replace justice kennedy let's bring in "fox news sunday" anchor chris wallace. good morning to you. this will be the big topic on your show this weekend. >> it will be one of two big topics. we're also, thanks for the plug, going to be able to talk, the first interview since he met with president putin with john bolton the president's national security advisor and we'll be talking to him obviously about the putin/trump summit that will take place in mid july. lot to talk about there. yes also the president and the opportunity he has here to shift the court to a solidly conservative five-vote majority. solid conservative five-vote majority for perhaps a quarter century could have enormous impact long after president trump leaves office on the
daily lives of people when you think of all the issues the supreme court rules and what it has ruled on just this week. so we'll be talking to john bolton but we'll also be talking to leonard leo, one of the top leaders of the federalist society who put together that list of 25 judges and one senator on that list who the president says he will pick his supreme court nominee from. we'll also talk to dick durbin the number two democrat in the house. they're trying to find some way to stop this nomination before they know who it is. doesn't seem likely they'll be able to stop it. >> sandra: it will be quite a battle ahead and there is a serious balancing act that republicans are embarking on here. former governor mike huckabee who was earlier on the program had this to say about the upcoming battle. >> i think the democrats will be unhappy with whoever donald trump puts forward. if he put moses up for the possibility of being supreme court justice, the ultimate law
giver of the 10 commandments, they would still be against it. >> sandra: he met with lawmakers at the white house yesterday in what is possibly an optimistic sign how the president is proceeding here. they walked out and some of them saying it was a good conversation. joe manchin called the meeting productive. >> look, you know, there are consequences to elections. barack obama famously said that. there are consequences to the success, the victory in the election of a conservative like donald trump, a constitutionalist as opposed to hillary clinton who had a more expansive view of the supreme court and how the constitution should be interpreted. i asked them about that. the first question i asked in the third presidential debate donald trump will pick one of the conservatives on that list of 25 and it will be somebody who conservatives will like and liberals aren't going to like. it's one of the issues in the
election and the one thing that president trump has to be careful about, sandra, is he cannot afford to lose a single vote with john mccain out of washington convalescing in his battle from brain surgery. if one of the two women that were part of the group last night. murcowski or collins. if they were to switch and go to the democratic side and vote no it's 49-50 and the president will lose. it seems to me while he will pick a strong conservative he probably is not going to pick somebody who is on the record and some of these people are, as being against roe v wade. i don't think collins and murcowski, it won't be somebody with a record of having voted against or spoken out against roe v wade
>> sandra: i'm sure you had thoughts yesterday in the hearing of rod rosenstein and christopher wray respond to a grilling from republican lawmakers. bob goodlatte was on the program this morning and here is what he had to say about the trust in the f.b.i. and c.i.a.. >> we are all about making sure that the rule of law and our system of justice works very well and unfortunately as reflected in the inspector general's report that broke down in 2016 and then on into 2017 with very unbalanced biased investigations leaning over backwards to make sure that hillary clinton did not get indicted, and then leaning in and launching an investigation in the presidential campaign related to donald trump and his campaign and we have a tremendous number of questions that the american people share and we're going to get to the bottom of that.
>> sandra: there were some fiery exchanges in that hearing room yesterday and you still hear the frustration from chairman goodlatte this morning. >> this is a perfect storm for the intelligence community but especially for the f.b.i. they became embroiled through no fault of their own in first hillary clinton and the investigation of what she did with her emails and then donald trump and the whole question of russian meddling and whether the trump campaign had anything to do with it. that's the last thing that law enforcement wants to be involved with. you can certainly argue and the inspector general found they could have handled it a lot better. they say james comey was insubordinate in some of the decisions he made moving outside of his lane and doing things he shouldn't have done and should have consulted with his bosses at the justice department and you have those just terrible text messages between peter strzok and lisa page which show blatant bias.
now there is an argument as to whether or not that bias filtered into the final decisions that were made. lord knows, no american would want to have somebody investigating us who showed that kind of bias against us in their private emails. it is a legitimate concern on the part of house republicans and it is going to be awfully hard for the f.b.i. director chris wray and rod rosenstein who incidentally are both republicans appointed by donald trump to satisfy those concerns on the part of house republicans. >> sandra: they didn't get a whole lots of answers to their questions yesterday, that's for sure. chris wallace, thank you very much and as he mentioned, quite a lineup for "fox news sunday". check your local listings to see what times it airs in your neighborhood and watch it on the fox news channel. thank you for coming on the program this morning. >> bill: the summit is set for july 16. president trump and vladimir putin sitting down in finland. what will they talk about and what's the agenda?
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of station with the c.i.a. and he joins us now. i wonder what your expectations are for that summit. >> there is no shortage of issues. there is comparatively less challenging issues like working together with the russians on counter terrorism and counter proliferation and organized crime. even i think negotiations to extend the starr treaty beyond the february expiration date. those are the easier issues on which we may find some common ground. what's far more difficult, i think are three issues. starting with syria and then north korea and lastly ukraine which will be of great interest to our european allies. in the back drop of this all is russia's espionage operation and interference and meddling in our elections with cyber intrusions. >> sandra: we had a chance to catch up with kellyanne conway on this program. we asked her heading into this
what is the president's goal and intentions? >> this president has said from the beginning he is willing to talk to leaders when it is in the best interest of america. if russia and the united states of america can work on national security issues together, the president will do that. at the same time this president has had no reluctance whatsoever to push back when he has felt it is appropriate. >> sandra: so what will the president's goals be when he sits down with vladimir putin? >> as i said i think there will be some tangible results perhaps on those three issues of counter terrorism and counter proliferation, organized crime and arms control. on syria it's really difficult. it hasn't turned out to be the quagmire for russia the president obama predicted when syria launched military attacks. russia has a lot of leverage in syria and ally in iran and
hezbollah and they've really mounted outreach effectively building relationships in the region with these partners, saudi arabia and israel and interested in selling s-400 to turkey. they launched attacks in syria. that was really just a pause so the assad regime could go and take over other areas of the country like damascus and i just don't know that we'll get too far in syria. but i think the discussions are worth having. i agree 100% with kellyanne conway. democrats should remember president obama talked about outstretching his hand to dictators in north korea and iran without pre-conditions. negotiations are always good and we can always strive for some common ground. north korea will also be very important. the russians have helped a bit on sanctions those lavrov discussed with kim jong-un
ratcheting down the sanctions before denuclearization in the peninsula but the negotiations are worth having and we may find ourselves being able to strike some balance there with the russians. >> sandra: it is going to be a big moment, big one for this presidency and the big one for the country. daniel, thank you. >> bill: 21 past. florida candidates for governor facing off in a heated fox news debate. hot button issues like immigration and trade, loyalty to president trump all on the line and talked about last night. one of those on stage is adam putnam. he joins us live in a moment to talk about that next. >> what an exciting time to be in front of such a live audience of 1,000 florida republicans. it's completely different than a washington, d.c. studio. welcome to florida, congressman.
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>> sandra: after weeks of debate congress heads home for the fourth of july holiday recess without passing an immigration bill after two republican proposals were defeated in the house. congressional leaders insist the effort to solve our immigration problems is not over. particularly reaching a legislative solution to keep immigrant families together. that stays in line with the president's executive order. one other area of immigration reform under fresh discussion when congress returns temporary protected status for foreign born individuals who are unable to return to their native countries due to safety concerns. >> when donald trump was trying to win florida in 2016 adam putnam did not attend a single
rally. you couldn't find him if you had a search warrant. >> i support our president. i support our president's agenda for our country and i support the fact that all of us pay less in taxes this year because of trump's tax cuts. >> bill: adam putnam and desantis facing off. one will win the primary. adam putnam is with me. desantis was on earlier today. we're giving you a crack. he mentioned donald trump 21 times. you mentioned him five times. how did it go? >> well, i thought it was a great debate and i was very pleased to be a part of it with a lot of energized, enthusiastic conservative florida republicans. i think the debate reflected two very different approaches to this campaign. the congressman's approach sounds like he is running for the senate.
more washington my approach was to put florida first. florida's problems and florida's solutions, economy and families. that's what the governor will have to focus on in the third largest state in the united states. >> bill: more from ron desantis going at you last night. have a listen here. >> he was in congress for 10 years. i've been there for five. i've done more in five than he did in 10. i'm leading on issues that matter and what he does is he gets a six figure salary from the taxpayers of florida. he campaigns insistently. he has been in elected office since he was 22 years old and always does the bidding of his donors instead of the people of florida. >> bill: your response. >> well look, he is never in florida and that's why he is trying to do a little political tactics on us. i can get around our state
without a gps or map unlike the other candidates. i know big cities and small towns and put out plans to deal with florida's opioid crisis, better jobs in florida, vocational and technical training into florida schools and support our community colleges that will help us rebuild the middle class and diversify our economy and proud to have the support of 45 sheriffs in florida who know that i'm the best candidate to keep floridians safe. that includes the congressman's own sheriff. >> bill: thank you for your time. we have breaking news. apologize for cutting it short. good luck in the primary. we'll watch it end of august. >> sandra: over to annapolis, maryland. officials giving an update on yesterday's shooting. >> with that i'll turn it to the chief. >> good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, i'm sorry to see you here today. bear me with as he take my glasses off. they get dark and i want you
guys to see me but i probably can't see you too well so i'll ask you to bear with me. i want to start today by offering the sincere condolences of the police department to the capital gazette staff. much like police, local newspapers become a family and their family suffered a tragedy yesterday. most of the folks that work at the capital gazette work with us daily, weekly, and we know them. it is not only a loss for them. i want them to know that. it is loss for the police department and truly it's a loss for the city of annapolis and our county. our hearts go out to them and we'll be thinking of them as we move forward and we wish them the best as they try to deal with their grief. i also have to thank a bunch of people. so i'll ask you to bear with me on this. there were 300 law enforcement
officers on that scene yesterday. 300 law enforcement officers from the annapolis police department, the county sheriff's office, the maryland state police, howard county police department, maryland transportation authority police, department of maryland, department of natural resources police. annapolis fire and bomb squad, prince georges county police department, montgomery county maryland started to send us help. bwi airport's fire and rescue services came. the nsa police came. the f.b.i. was, as always, a very present help in times of trouble. the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms gave us a large amount of help. nsa came to help. the united states secret service came to help. and the postal inspectors came to help. whether they were helping us direct traffic, whether they
were bringing water to cops who were dehydrated or whether they helped us go if that building and save people's lives, every cop from all those agencies was a part of how we saved people's lives yesterday. i thank them from the bottom of my heart from our police department. also like to thank our community. one of the beautiful things wearing a badge and patch here in our county we know how our community feels about us. we've heard you have the last 24 hours. as always, we thank you for that support and love and we thank you for the support and love that is going out to the capital gazette. the business community is absolutely front and center of that larger community. we have had so many showings of love from our business community in the area in the last 24 hours. i am, as always, humbled and touched by their support. i can confirm for you at this time that we identified the
suspect with help through other investigative techniques by using facial recognition technology, from the maryland image repos tory system and thank governor hogan for allowing us that help and like to thank the state police for being so present and helping us identify the suspect. we were able to use that and a couple other techniques to make sure we knew who the bad guy was. i will not say his name today. i refuse to do it. i wish you wouldn't do it but i know better. he doesn't deserve us to talk about him one more second. thank you to the maryland combined analysis center. there are no other suspects we're looking for right now. we have no reason to believe anybody else but the suspect was involved in this atrocity. we did recover the suspect's car after a pretty lengthy
search nearby. we have conducted a search warrant on that. i can't give you much more on that right now because we're still putting puzzle pieces together. we did also do overnight a search warrant in the 400 block of armstrong court, maryland state police helped us serve that warrant last night. i want to thank them again. we did find evidence at the residence. i can't go into details about it but i will tell you it is evidence showing the origination of planning, things like that, in his apartment and it shows what we knew we would find, which is that we have one bad guy and that for his own reasons he chose to do what he did yesterday. we've confirmed, i think, already it was a shotgun used in the incident. i will also confirm it was a pump action shotgun. it was legally purchased a year or so ago.
and i'm going to close and allow questions with this. this was a targeted attack. we can't fathom why that person chose to do this. we don't think we have anymore clear and present dangers to the citizens of our county. that person has had a history with the police department. in may of 2013 we did have a situation where online threatening comments were made. we had a detective assigned to investigate it. the detective spoke with legal counsel for the capital gazette. several members of the capital gazette staff. mr. marquard was scheduled to be on that conference call and he did not call in.
on that conference call, it was discussed that the capital gazette did not wish to pursue criminal charges. there was a fear that doing so would exacerbate an already flammable situation. lieutenant frazier will, after appropriate redaction, be sending you the police report on that incident. we'll be able to do that in the next couple hours. bear with us as we do that. we're trying to do it right. we'll only get one shot at doing this right. with that i'll take a couple questions. [inaudible question] >> so i think that they are trying to put all those puzzle pieces together. all of you are good investigative reporters and you've all looked at the social media platforms. there is clearly a history there. i will tell you that we were not aware of that history until
last night. should we have been in a perfect world? sure, we should have been. we were not. we get a threat call a day. it is tough to keep up with them. we lost a great tool a couple years ago. it was the national conscience that decided we weren't going to be able to use it. it made our job a lot easier as it relates to following things, phrases, areas on social media. [inaudible question] >> given the situation at the time, i think the investigator made the call. the investigator involved is retired. i haven't had a chance to talk to him yet. we make calls every day. i think he made a call based on what he was presented.
we make that call every day. every day we talk to somebody who decides they don't want to press charges. in maryland, if it's a felony, we push. if it's a misdemeanors. a lot of them go the way of not charging. i don't feel the department was negligent in any way. >> [inaudible question] >> tell us more about his demeanor when you started the interrogation or what happened? >> i'll beg your indulgence to say this. we have not or have not been getting cooperation from the suspect. the suspect was scheduled to go to bail review an hour or so ago. i am not terribly sure what happened there. so for now, that window has closed for us and we'll have to try to do things a different way. [inaudible question] >> yes, sir.
[inaudible question] >> we still have to do a forensic reconstruction on digital stuff. we haven't had a chance to do that. we didn't find a manifesto or anything. we did not find that. [inaudible question] >> so this is how i'll answer that question. when the officers went in, they were going in there to neutralize a threat. that became very clear very quickly. and i think fight or flight kicks in certain ways and i don't know why, but flight won for this suspect yesterday. he didn't run away, but he hid. [inaudible question] >> yes, ma'am.
>> what's the total time frame from the moment you got the call until you got the suspect? how long did the whole incident take place? >> within two minutes they were pushing in on the suspect and getting him cornered and not hurt anyone else. do i think the annapolis city cops, the county cops, and the sheriff's department saved people's lives yesterday? without question, without question. what we found was more stuff to distract people and confuse people than it was to introduce casualties if that makes sense as far as devices. i'm going to beg your indulgence and not answer that. i'll say this, the fellow was there to kill as many people as he could get.
>> [inaudible question] >> no, sir. i cannot answer that question. i have seen your colleagues post things. i have not gotten that feedback from my investigators yet. i have to be honest with you, they are hitting the point of diminishing returns on their ability to stay awake and keep going. we'll be glad to get more on that to you guys in the near future. i can't answer it right now. [inaudible question] >> sure. maryland has a system that has come under some fire from civil libertarians called bear with me maryland image repository system. the maryland combined analysis center ran the picture we sent them through that system and it was able to identify the
subject. we would have been much longer in identifying him and being able to push forward in the investigation without that system. it was a huge win for us last night and thus for the citizens of our county. [inaudible question] >> i believe -- bear with me on this because i'm not a pro. i believe it's drivers license and mug shot. >> can you explain why this was necessary? >> we had lag getting answers on filinger -- fingerprints is all i can tell you. it's why the senior law enforcement force said that. they read lag as some sort of
attempt on his part. so we had lag and it happens. i don't know why it happens. last night i don't know why it took us a little longer through the computer system. computer systems do that. but we immediately -- we didn't have the luxury of waiting and we immediately turned to the help we used. [inaudible question] >> i can't answer that, ma'am. i really can't. i have no idea. [inaudible question] >> it was a 12-gauge shotgun. [inaudible question] >> so it's my understanding that we had the initial incidents with social media
platforms and if it's twitter i'll take your word for it. if it's instagram, i would accept that, too. we had the instances in 13 and it went dark and very shortly before the incident there were further posts. i could be wrong on that and to be honest i haven't dug that much into that. [inaudible question] >> so in maryland, when you become prohibited there are certain crimes -- i'll be honest, i don't know if stalking is one of them -- felonies, and certain misdemeanors. i believe he has a harassment conviction, yes? so i know he was charged with harassment once. that's the best answer i can give you, sir.
[inaudible question]. >> felonies are automatic. there are specific misdemeanors and i'm not sure if stalking is one of them. i know domestic assault is. i am going to beg your indulgence on being circumspect on that. i have to protect the integrity of the prosecution here. i think he had planned it and i'm going to ask you to let me stay at that. [inaudible question] >> close, close enough where if you were planning it you would put your car there. does that make sense? [inaudible question] >> we aren't getting very much communication, sir. i'll take two more. [inaudible question]
>> i wish i could answer that question with some clarity. i cannot. using statistics, generally active shooters are wanting to go out in a blaze of glory. i just can't get in his head. i can't do it. i wish i could today truly. one more, ma'am. [inaudible question] >> i would characterize them as minor and everybody is doing okay if that makes sense. that's the last one. the person who went to shock trauma is one of our fatalities and god bless her. thank you, ladies and gentlemen. >> more information we want to get out to the public. we're asking if anybody has information, again we successfully evacuated about 170 people out of that building so most of those people in some way, shape or form could be a possible witness, whether they
saw something, heard something -- >> sandra: he was there to kill as many people as he could kill. he planned it. you've been listening to the chief of police in annapolis, maryland for the suspect that killed five innocent people in a newsroom. no other clear and present danger, he said. at this time there are no other suspects. they aren't looking for anyone else involved. he would not say his name. incredibly tragic situation that played out there in that newsroom yesterday. they confirmed he used a 12-gauge pump action shotgun. the police chief thanked 300 law enforcement officers that responded to the scene. the first responders arriving 60 seconds after the first phone call. he credited their response for preventing many more deaths. we'll hear more about this in a few minutes. the president is expected to speak for the first time on camera since this happened at 12:15 p.m. eastern time.
>> bill: suspect is not talking. that's clear from all the comments we heard a moment ago and the social media postings that go back to 2013 there will be questions about that. and what action investigators took or chose not to. questions are out there. >> sandra: law enforcement swift action there. >> bill: the president will talk in about 30 minutes. a quick break here and we'll be back after this.
>> sandra: president trump targeting harley davidson yet again yesterday after the motorcycle maker announced it would move some production out of the united states. >> president trump: harley davidson, please build those beautiful motorcycles in the usa, please, okay? don't get cute with us. don't get cute.
they don't realize the taxes are coming way down. they don't realize that yet. i spent a lot of time with them. build them in the usa. your customers won't be happy. >> sandra: joining me in oregon congressman greg walden chairman of the energy and commerce committee. thank you, good to see you this morning. obviously the president is sending a strong message to this american company. >> yeah, he is. i'm glad he is. we need manufacturing jobs here. and you know, he has done so much to improve this economy. you look at the lowest unemployment rate in decades. you look at the best time to go find a job. a million jobs since the tax cuts. taken the hand of regulation off of business to grow and innovate jobs. now is the time to believe, not leave, that this trump recovery will make a difference. we have to get better trading agreements. president took the lead on that
and i hope they keep the powder dry and see how it plays out. >> sandra: do you worry about the trade disputes and where they might end up? >> yeah. the president said give him a chance to negotiate. he is the premier negotiator. we don't want a big trade or tariff war. nobody has lower tariffs than we do or lower barriers to entrance than we do. we've seen our jobs leave as a result. we need to put pressure on our friends to renegotiate and get better deals. we should give him a chance to try to get a better agreement in each of these countries and across the globe so we get more jobs in america. it's worked on taxes and working on regulation. i don't want a big trade and tariff war but he needs to have the room to negotiate and we need to support him in that. >> sandra: finally i want to ask you about what you spoke about on the house floor on wednesday. it is time for real justice,
you said. president trump can't administer that. you are asking the president to pardon two ranchers that triggered the takeover off a national wildlife in -- >> they should never have been put in prison. fire out here on the range is a tool, a management tool. the government uses it, private sector uses it. judge in this case, a federal judge said it would be unconscionable to sentence them to five years. he gave them three months and a little over a year. the obama administration made them serve the full fire-year sentences. president trump could pardon them today and give them the freedom they deserve and he should do that and i hope he does. >> sandra: congressman, thank you for coming on the program this morning. >> bill: you're welcome. thank you.
another story here the mastermind of benghazi attack sentenced to 22 years in prison. the terror attacks in 2012 in benghazi led to the death of four americans, ignited a political firestorm. charles woods is the father of ty woods. he lost his life. you think the sentencing is outrageous. make your case. >> one thing that really bothers me personally after five years, after an american diplomat has been killed for the first time in 40 years, after four americans were killed in benghazi, we finally only have one person responsible that has been brought to trial and that one person received a very light sentence. >> bill: how are you doing -- >> the worst thing about the light sentence, he will be out in a few years. but after he is released he is going to be on probation supervised here in the united
states for five years. so for five years we have an american terrorist walking our streets. i thought we were supposed to get terrorists out of our country. he will be a hero to those people here in the united states that hate our government and what happens if he marries an american woman, has an anchor baby and we can't send him back home and separate him from his family afterwards? >> bill: how do you think you resolve this in finally arriving at justice? >> well, you know, one of the foundations of justice is protecting victims both potential and those who have already suffered. and the problem with this light sentence is it does nothing to discourage and cause respect and fear towards potential terrorists both in the united states and elsewhere from doing this sort of thing. at the trial i believe it's on
november 6th he bragged that he wished more americans had been killed in the attack. so he is an unrepentant terrorist. there is no way he should ever be allowed out of jail again so he can influence the death of american citizens or even others in other parts of the world. >> bill: thank you for your time almost six years later. i know this is very difficult. thank you for being here today and i see the painting behind you. >> one other thing i have totally forgiven everyone involved with the death of my son. i am not seeking vengeance, but just for the protection of the united states, you know, we're told in romans 13 the government is to protect us from wrongdoers. this doesn't protect america, it actually endangers america. >> bill: thank you, sir.
thank you for your service and your son's. >> thank you. >> sandra: take you back to annapolis, maryland where prosecutors are giving an update on the shooting. the state's attorney is speaking. let's listen. >> shooting of the innocent victims in this case. it was upon those facts that the judge relied upon to hold mr. ramos without bail. the next step in this process is either a preliminary hearing or bring the case before the grand jury for an indictment. either of those things occur in the next 30 days. from there the case will then be forwarded to the circuit court. that is the result of today's proceedings. >> please repeat the series of events that happened before and after -- [inaudible question]
>> as i stated to the judge, there were two entrances to the offices in which this attack occurred. the rear door was barricaded. mr. ramos then, as i told the judge, entered into the front door and worked his way through the office where he was shooting victims as he walked through the office. >> you said he actually shot some of the victims that were trying to get out that barricaded back door? you told the judge that? >> that is correct. >> can you say that? >> there was a number of victims -- there was one victim that had attempted to escape through the back door and was shot at that point. >> also talk about his -- [inaudible question] >> i cannot go any further into that. what i had stated on the record is what i have to -- is my comment to that.
[inaudible question] >> he was taken at the scene, as was shown yesterday. he was brought before a commissioner yesterday -- early this morning and was held without bail. [inaudible question] >> i have no further comment on any of his motivations or anything about the press. [inaudible question] >> i will not comment on any further evidence or any specific evidence about this case. as a prosecutor we can discuss the series of -- we can discuss what occurred today, what was stated in the courtroom. however, i cannot discuss the pending nature of the investigation nor the specific pieces of evidence. while i appreciate that you all are here, the public wants to know all the fine details of that, the defendant is presumed
innocent until proven guilty and is entitled to a fair trial. i ask that you guys allow the process to work. the next step in the process is to take it before a grand jury for preliminary hearing and the case because thank you very much, i appreciate you guys covering this and it will be all. >> harris: fox news alert as what we have been watching as we start off your "outnumbered" is the sheriffs county and prosecutors coming up to the microphones outside the courthouse for the suspect in yesterday's vicious shooting that left five dead and many injured, no bond. that's aspect being held, no bond pending a court appearance and those were the prosecutors who were explaining the case that they have already laid out before the judge. they included some details that