smugness and group think. have a great weekend. "hannity" is next. judge jeannine sitting in for him. >> welcome to this special edition of "hannity." the trump effect. i'm jeanine pirro in tonight for sean. with a booming economy, rising pom -- poll numbers and shakeup around the world the trump agenda is on the move. america's left is unraveling. and early this week the u.s. supreme court upheld the president's travel ban. and in another decision, the highest court of the land dealt a serious blow to government labor unions. plus, breaking this week, justice anthony kennedy is
retiring giving president trump the opportunity to send a judge to the supreme court for the second time in 18 months. on wednesday during a raucous rally in north dakota the president recapped his momentum week and so much more. take a look. >> president trump: and i'm proud to report that just yesterday, the supreme court upheld the travel ban. [applause] and our authority to keep america safe. the travel ban ruling underscores just how critical it is to confirm judges who will support our constitution. our great, great constitution. but the heritage foundation came out with a report and this was as of two months ago. we have already implemented 64% of our top agenda items. that is at a much faster pace than even ronald reagan. that is pretty good, right?
>> now even more good news. six months after passing an historic tax cut package, the economy is breaking records. earlier today, president trump celebrated america's economic progress. take a look. >> president trump: the economy is indeed doing well. [applause] six months ago we unleashed an economic miracle by signing the biggest tax cuts and reforms. i have to add the word "reform." it's a very important word. but the tax cuts is what got us there. that is what is really doing it. the biggest tax cuts in american history. now it's my great honor to welcome you back to the white house to celebrate six months of new jobs, bigger paychecks and keeping more of your hard earned money where it belongs, in your pocket or wherever else you want to spend it. >> in the wake of all this good news, we also learned that president trump is now set to take part in a
diplomatic summit with russian president vladimir putin. and joining us now to preview this meeting and more is the white house senior adviser for strategic communications mercedes schlapp. good evening. >> great to be here. >> all right. mercedes, the president had a great week and in fact i just kind of outlined a lot of it. but i think that the thing that is, you know, the most interesting i would say at this point -- although saving your money and good economy is really important to all of us -- is the supreme court. the president now has an opportunity to put another person on the supreme court. it's not even two years and he is going to have his second person on the supreme court. i understand he is meeting with potential candidates this weekend in bedminster. is that what is happening? >> well, the president is working quickly to see if we can fill this vacancy. obviously he has several folks
in mind. he actually has, as you know, put out the list of the 25 qualified candidates. you know, president trump has been incredibly transparent in this process. in the same time, he has also met with senators, talking with them, getting their input in terms of the supreme court justice nominee. and i think what we do know definitely is that president trump is looking to make this announcement on july 9. i got to tell you, from that list you know you will find individuals with impeccable qualifications, with the right judicial temperament and with tremendous intellect. in the mold of a supreme court justice gorsuch. and it is such an important part of president trump's legacy. it's no question, judge, that president trump has been the most consequential president in our history. what he has been able to accomplishment as you said is absolutely amazing.
it's work that he has put his heart and soul too in ensuring that americans every day have opportunities. >> meeting with putin. so july 9, he is going to give us the name of the person that he is going to present for supreme court. a week later, he is going to be in helsinki meeting with, you know, vladimir putin. i mean does the man -- i mean, his agenda keeps on rolling. earlier, 64% of his top agenda items have already been satisfied. >> we have talked about the booming economic story here in america. his success in ensuring that we had a strong -- that we have a strong economy. as we know in the next quarter, it looks like the economists expect 4% g.d.p. growth. that is impressive. in addition to that, the president obviously focuses on the interests of america's national security. and, of course, that means
having very strong relationships with our allies. the president is a coalition builder with other faces. of course, he takes risks. he goes over to north korea. he meets with kim jong un. he is able to move forward in terms of denuclearizing the region which is incredibly important for world peace. in addition to that now he is looking to meet with president putin. this again is an opportunity to talk about a range of national security issues that are critical for our country. >> will the president be talking to putin about cyber warfare? the issue that seems to be on the front burner in this country. election interference? >> the president will talk about a range of issues including syria, iran as well as north korea. i think you will see again, the president will bring up a variety of issues with president putin. this is an opportunity for con
strucktive and cooperative engagement with russia. as we know when the united states and russia are working together and getting along it's good for the world and it's good for peace. so it's an opportunity again for the two world leaders to come together and talk about a variety of topics. >> you know, mercedes, it is amazing. there is so much to talk about. we can do it with the positive news for an hour. with what has happened with north korea now meeting with putin, the supreme court justice. i mean the president is on a roll. mercedes schlapp so good to see you again. thank you so much. >> he is. >> all right. and while the trump agenda saw a lot of progress this week, the deep state continued to collapse and deputy a.g. rod rosenstein was in the hot seat. take a look at this. >> why are you keeping information from congress? >> i am not keeping any information from congress. >> i want to know why you won't give us what we've asked for. >> sir, i certainly hope your colleagues are not under that impression. that is not accurate, sir. >> it is accurate. we have caught you hiding
information. >> mr. chairman -- >> you wrote the memo saying that comey should be fired and you signed the fisa extension for carter paige. it seems like you should be recused more than jeff sessions. >> i can say if it were appropriate for me to recuse i would be more than happy to do this and let someone else handle this. >> did you not know that bruce orr was meeting with christopher steel, getting the information about the dossier and supplying that information to the f.b.i. at the same time his wife nelly was working for fusion g.p.s. and helping hillary clinton? did you not know he was doing that for the f.b.i.? >> whatever you got, finish it the hell up. this country is being torn apart. >> joining us now are two of the men you just saw. florida congressman and gubernatorial candidate ron desantis. and texas congressman louie
gohmert. it's good to have you here. i'll start with you, representative ron desantis. was our favorite guy rod rosenstein -- i got to tell you. i watched that, congressman. i was so frustrated with the smirking and the don't attack me personally and the taking the time to run the clock. is he keeping information from congress? >> judge, this is really concerning. yes, they are keeping information from congress. but it's not just a normal stonewall. what they are saying is peter strozk open asthmasive counterintelligence information about trump's campaign. we know it was colored with bias and we know the problems. trying to get the details about it, rosenstein says i can't talk about it. it's classified and sensitive. peter strozk wednesday for the deposition he wouldn't answer most of the questions because it's classified. so they unleash the counterintelligence powers of the government.
now they are using that, the sensitivity of that as a shield to protect them from congressional oversight. that is wrong. >> it's clearly wrong. congressman gohmert, you think that knows guys are actually listen in on your office? >> well, i don't know about listening in but i've been told they are keeping an eye on me. the thing is, though, i mean look at what they do. they have a history and especially mueller and weissman. they work together on the russia investigation where they are trying to get uranium illegally which they have done. so, that was also under the jurisdiction of a guy named "rosenstein." rosenstein, mueller, comey, weisman are joined together in so much of this stuff. it's incredible. judge, you have seen people lie. i can't say what all strozk said. but during the hours i was
watching, you know, you would see them say things that he knew he was lying. he knew you knew he was lying. >> interesting. >> yet he was so cool about the way he would say it. i was sitting there going golly, he is so good about lying. then i realize, you know what? he's been doing that forever to his wife. he has got this lying with the proper emotion down pat. all those times he probably lied to his wife about lisa page. this guy is really good about what he does. and then rosenstein to sit there and say he didn't know what the guy in the office two doors down who worked directly for him. he says he was not working on the russia investigation. oh, i didn't know he was the one that got the information from christopher steel for the f.b.i. wow! how about that?" i mean holy cow. >> you know what, congressman gohmert, i share your frustration. but congressman desantis, i will ask you this. the american people understand
what is going on. you look at this guy rod rosenstein. he is so knee-deep in the swamp it's pathetic. he is the one who said that comey should be fired. he is the one that convinced sessions he should recuse himself. he is basically now running the department of justice. he says he doesn't know anything and he is not dragging his feet on the production of records that congress want. but the american people instinctively understood this because they elected an outsider to be president. so here is the question that they have. what are you going to do about it? i don't want to hear it's the conscience of the senate, or the congress. we want you to hand it over. what are you guys going to do about this? when are we going to see justice? >> well, you have to impose a sanction for noncompliance. i have been saying we should have done that months ago, judge, because we have been doing this dance back and forth. >> right. >> it's counterproductive. it wastes time. i don't know, though, so that is what i would like to do personally. i do have other colleagues who would. i don't know whether we have a majority of the congress who would support that at this
juncture. i hope we do. but ultimately you would need to vote it out through whole body. i think that is absolutely appropriate. if you don't do a sanction, then they will keep stonewalling. >> of course they'll stonewall. these are the same people who said to you there were no e-mails between the f.b.i. and the department of justice on the meeting on the tarmac between loretta lynch and bill clinton. c'mon, they have been lying from the get-go on this whole thing. but i'm going to go back to you congress -- >> let me interject. it's all going to be a question of how strong our leadership is. when boehner was speaker, he would not let us go after coskanin. the guy lied. it was just all kind of offenses were committed. loretta lynch, there were problems there but you had the i.r.s. knee-deep in lies and fraudulent conduct. he wouldn't let us do anything. but if you remember trey finally got the assurance, and that is why he went on sunday shows previous, two weeks ago
who said we are going to have a vote this week if he doesn't produce this week. and we didn't have a vote that week because it got pulled back yet again. >> by whom? by whom? >> the leadership -- >> give me a name. stop saying, "leadership." give me a name. >> well, they're elected. they're not leaders but they have been elected and they have prevented us from keeping these guys or making them -- >> congressman, give me a name. who are we talking about? paul ryan? who are we talking about? >> that is where the buck stops. yes. >> thank you very much. congressman desantis, you were great last night. congressman, louie gohmert, thank you for being with us. all right. joining us now with more is fox news contributor charlie hurt, the author of the new book "the russia hoax: the illicit scheme to clear hillary clinton and frame donald trump." fox news legal analyst gregg jarrett and fox news contributor juddd schone. i'm fired up. i can't stand it when people
lie. you can do a lot of things but don't lie to me. charlie, i'll start with you. what we have got here is we have got, you just heard two congressmen. what they say is you know what? leadership isn't letting us do what we've got to do. what do they have to do? american people are frustrated. that is why they elected donald trump. what needs to happen now? >> it's just beyond frustrating. when you sit there and you look at a guy like rod rosenstein who i think should be impeached, should be fired, frankly. to look at a guy like that whose only objective in coming before congress is somehow sticking up for covering up trying to protect the institution of the f.b.i., that is not what we are worried about here. what we are talking about is that the f.b.i. was weaponized and turned into a political weapon and went after a political opponent at the height of a presidential campaign. these are very, very important
constitutional issues that congress has ever right and every responsibility to get to the bottom of. >> they are not doing it. >> and to have these people -- and they are not doing it. and to have the people stonewalling only means that congress should work twice as hard to get that information. >> okay. that tells me, doug, they are the swamp, too. >> absolutely. i have a dirty little secret to reveal. the reason the republicans are lagging in the polls -- they are coming up now -- is the republican leadership, the least popular people in america are paul ryan, retiring. and mitch mcconnell. that is donald trump and that is the republican party's problem and a great benefit for democratic party. >> what is interesting is mitch mcconnell with the selection of the supreme court justice, his numbers and his stock is going to go up a little bit. i think. >> but you don't hear him on this issue, do you, judge? >> no, you don't hear him on this issue. that is why i'm going to gregg jarrett to talk about -- i
could say how frustrated were you but we all were. but look, when you have got this rod rosenstein, i, like you, was all teed up to get some answers. he smiled, he smirked. he said you are not attacking me personally, are you? i am attacking you personally. what is your take on this whole thing? >> he was untruthful yesterday. he denied he threatened staff members on the intel committee. i talked to two of them. they used that very word. "we were threatened by him. he threatened to subpoena our e-mails, our phone records and our texts." he was also untruthful when he said that he was not withholding documents from the committee. his own letters reveal he is concealing evidence and withholding documents. why is why he has been given until -- that is why he has been given until july 6 or turn them over. i think the president should order him in writing to comply. and if he doesn't comply he should be fired.
>> all right. let's continue with that. i will go to you, charlie. if the president were to order rod rosenstein to comply, and rosenstein doesn't, then who impeaches rosenstein? would the president fire rosenstein? does he need another james comey scenario all over again? >> well, my goodness, judge, who does this guy think he works for? he ultimately works for the president. he ultimately works for the american people. if the president wants to can him, he can. he works for the president. and the fact that he is sitting in that committee hearing pointing as the members of congress two are doing their job, trying to do their job, which isover sight of the administration, oversight of a position they confirmed the position for him to hold, the idea he will sit there and point the finger at him. and gregg is right. the astonishing things or the threats that have come from him.
but even before the threats made to staffers, he accused -- he said that -- he had some comment about how he will not be bribed into giving over information. basically accusing members of congress of trying to bribe him. >> guys, i'm running out of time. congress is a coequal branch of government. this guy is so arrogant and condescending. should he be impeached? >> yes. >> it will become a constitutional crisis -- >> if the president does fire him. >> yes. that is what he is banking on. >> that is what is rosenstein banking on? >> correct. >> what should happen? >> you cannot deny a lawful subpoena from congress. that is grounds for being fired. it should be done if he continues to obstruct. >> it will never happen. >> let's do it now. >> i'm with you. thanks, guys. >> thank you. >> coming up on this special edition of "hannity." hillary clinton is the latest democrat endorsing incivility on the left. governor mike huckabee sanders
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>> as the thrump agenda succeeds the left is unraveling. now many are harassing trump allies all over the country. the left claims to have a monopoly of compassion for women. but take a look at how they treat women in positions of power within the trump administration. >> i was asked to leave a restaurant this weekend where i attempted to have dinner with my family. my husband and i politely left and went home. i was asked to leave because i work for president trump. we are allowed to disagree but we should be able to do so
freely and without fear of harm. this goes for all people regardless of politics. >> three huge guys came up and started probably an inch from my face screaming at me every word in the book. cursing as loud as they could. so then a trooper, my trooper came up. and my boyfriend and i got our tickets. we were headed in. and then they ran in and circled me where i could not get into the theater. they stopped me. >> homeland security secretary kirstjen nielsen is in a mexican restaurant of all places. the [bleep] gall. shame on you! shame! shame! shame! shame! shame! shame! shame! shame! fascist pig! >> jeanine: on tuesday, a group of protesters in georgetown harassed senate majority leader mitch mcconnell and his wife norm
elaine chow who serves as the secretary of education. when hillary clinton was asked about the calls, she responded, "oh, give me a break." but the let's rhetoric is not only targeted on republicans in leadership positions. take a look at the calls from the left to get rid of i.c.e. >> i think there is no question that we've got to critically re-examine i.c.e. and its role and the way that it is being administered and the work it is doing and probably think about starting from scratch. >> i think we need to abolish i.c.e. that seems really clear. they have strayed so far from the interest of the american people and the interest of humanity. we need to abolish it. >> eliminating i.c.e. for instance. >> yeah. yes. >> i.c.e. isn't doing what it was created to do. it's being used as his own personal police force.
and in those actions it's actually making us less safe. >> i don't think i.c.e. today is working as intended. >> you think you should get rid of the agency? >> i believe that it has become a deportation force. and i think you should separate the criminal justice from the immigration issues and reimagine i.c.e. >> jeanine: joining me now with reaction, mike huckabee, fox news contributor. good evening, governor. now i can't imagine as a father what it's like watching your daughter stand at that podium and talk about her being harassed out of a restaurant because she works for our president, and, you know, a man who is both a friend of yours and obviously someone she admires a great deal. give us your reaction. >> well, it's very frustrating to see that the owner of a restaurant that only bullied my daughter and threw her out of the restaurant but showed a level of bigotry.
if you are going to be that bigoted, put a sign on your restaurant that says, "no shirt, no shoes, no republicans, no service." i mean at least be honest about it. and say to people we don't want your business. we don't want the likes of you at our lunch counter. you can't even sit in the back of the bus. that is pretty sad in that country. i think sarah handled it with dignity and class. probably more than her old man would have done. >> jeanine: and then, you know, she, of course, is someone that all of us have a great deal of respect for. and she called herself as has done the president for civility. and then good old hillary who i thought was still in the woods comes out again and says, you know, forget about that. "give me a break." what is your take of hillary clinton's basic rejection as civility as a way to approach this problem? >> not a surprise coming from the president who called the trump voters "a basket of
deplorables." it's clear she has not gotten over the loss. but here is what is even clear. this november americans will make a very significant decision as to whether they want to elect the democrats who want to get rid of i.c.e. and open the borders and treat people who come here illegally with great level of open arms, regardless of their criminal background. and everybody let them vote, for heaven's sake. do we want a party that lets illegal aliens be treated better than we do citizens simply going out to eat or going to a movie? that is the america that people will choose. do you want the civil one where you get to go to a restaurant or the one where you don't unless you are an illegal and then, of course, come on in and we won't arrest you. because we're getting rid of the police force. the very people who try to keep these folks out. >> jeanine: i must tell you, governor, when i first heard the woman running for governor from "sex in the city" cynthia nixon we should get rilled of
ice -- get rid of i.c.e. i thought well, that goes to show you someone never in government before. but then they all started taking on the mantra and i had to say what is happening in the united states of america? >> well, it's obvious that this is a script. all the democrats are required to read it. i think they have to memorize it. it's like lines in a play. and they are all supposed to audition for it. but it's getting really ridiculous when this is their message to the american voter. let's get rid of any scrutiny of the people two break in country without any form of identification. who do not come through the legal process. judge, we are a nation of immigrants. we love and welcome immigrants in this nation. >> jeanine: of course we are. >> all of us have come here from somewhere. but my gosh, we did have to do it legally. what these folks are saying no borders, non-whatsoever. i can't go to -- none whatsoever. i can't go to any country in world and just walk on in. why should someone be allowed to come in america like that? i have no idea.
>> jeanine: it's a turning point in this country. as you say, the 2018 elections are so incredibly important. anyway, governor mike huckabee, so good to have you on this evening. >> thanks. always a pleasure, judge. >> jeanine: all right. and still to come on this special edition of "hannity," democrats in the media are completely losing it over justice anthony kennedy's retirement from the united states supreme court. and by the way don't forget to buy a copy of my book on amazon or barnes & nobles. "liars, leaders and liberals: the case against the conspiracy." more after the break. that's why she wears dr. scholl's orthotics. they're clinically proven to relieve pain and give you the comfort to move more. dr. scholl's, born to move.
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look at this. >> regardless of what happens in his presidency now, donald trump will leave a mark on this country for decades to come. yeah. it's like it's not going to go away. he is giving america judicial herpes. >> if you are lgbtq, if you are a person of color, if you are a woman -- if you are not a straight white male in america you are probably freaking out. >> we are looking at the destruction of the constitution of the united states. >> we are screwed for generations. >> clean air and water that you use and breathe is at stake. >> we are looking down the tunnel of potentially criminal liability for women seeking to make decisions about their own bodies. it's time for democrats to throw down. we have been playing by the rule book. and donald trump and republicans have been playing by street rules. we need to play by street rules. >> don't allow a vote on this, don't have a hearing, don't have a meeting, don't let anything go forward. don't play ball with this
decision. >> jeanine: fox news is reporting that president trump is set to interview candidates this weekend and will announce a final decision on monday july 9. the president sat down with fox business maria to discuss major questions he might have for nominees and her interview will air sunday at 10:00 a.m. here is a preview. >> reporter: are you going to ask your nominees beforehand how they might vote on roe v. wade? >> president trump: well, that is a big one. probably not. they are all saying don't do that. you don't do that. you shouldn't do that. but i'm putting conservative people on. and i'm very proud of neil gorsuch. he has been outstanding. his opinions are, you know, so well written. so brilliant. and i'm going to try and do something like that. but i don't think i'm going to be so specific. >> jeanine: joining me now with reaction, former obama economic adviser austan goolsbee. and fox news contributors deroy murdoch and robert
jeffress. i'll start with you, pastor. right now, the right, of course, is looking for the president to appoint someone who is pro life. the president has indicated in the preview that he is not going to ask that direct question. what do you think the president is going to ask as it relates to whether or not a person is pro-life? >> well, the president is exactly right not to ask a specific question about roe v. wade. and judge, he doesn't need to. here is why. it's the philosophy of this justice that really counts. you know for the last 50 years the only way liberals have been able to enact their agenda is through the judiciary having justices who create imaginary rights for some americans while at the same time erasing the real rights of other americans. there is no right to abortion. that is nowhere in the constitution. be -- but there is a right to life to erase for 50 million
children butchered in the wome since 1973 roe v. wade. if the president and i know he will, appoint a conservative justice with a conservative philosophy, roe v. wade and the other atrocities from the jew dish jare will take care -- judiciary will take care of themselves. >> jeanine: austan goolsbee, i assume you will have the opposite opinion. but isn't the president almost required to suggest someone who is an originalists, a constitutionalists? i think we can all agree that justices are not supposed to write the law. they are supposed to interpret precedent. >> yeah, look. i can see why the democrats that you showed on the clip are as agitated as they are. justice kennedy is really quite a centrist justice. he is kind of the deciding vote on a lot of these cases. >> jeanine: right. right. >> by most indicators, we don't know who -- i see your name rumored, judge jeanine, so i'm not going to ask if
you're going to interview. but it depends a great deal on who he replaces justice kennedy with. by most indications it looks like somebody is going to be quite a radical departure from what justice kennedy was. and if they do that, i don't want to get in an argument about the issue of abortion. it's a very emotional issue. just the polls indicate that more than two-third of america do not want to overturn roe v. wade at this point. >> jeanine: okay. all right. deroy -- >> if you put in a justice that does that, we'll have problems. >> jeanine: i don't know if we'll have problems. deroy, is there a requirement because kennedy is very often the swing vote, that the president is required to nominate someone like kennedy? he can nominate anyone he wants. >> he can nominate anybody. he could nominate a very left wing judge if he wanted, a right wing judge or a centrist. i assume he will pick somebody off the list he publicized. the original 21 but up to 25
judges. which has been vetted by the federalist society and heritage foundation. most of the names were out there before he was elected so people knew what they would get. he has been transparent about putting the names forward. people have had basically a year and a half to look into them and the backgrounds and the judicial outlook and so forth. >> jeanine: i'll ask you this, pastor jeffress. then i want to go back to austan again. look, the truth is that the judges who are up to be a justice, i mean if they have too many decisions that are controversial, i mean that is going to cause, you know, uprising. but if they don't have a lot of controversial decisions, then on the other hand they are going to be conservatives who will say well, maybe they are not conservative enough. what we have is murkowski and collins who are votes that we need, the republican senators who are both pro-choice.
how does the president balance that to get the 50 republicans he needs? pence will be there if there is a tie. >> you know, judge, not long ago the president asked me why i thought he had a 75% approval rating with evangelicals. i said it's very simple. you are delivering on your promise to put conservatives on all of the courts. judge, the president knows this. this is what he ran on. and i'll have to tell you. if we were dealing with a president bush, either one of them, or heaven forbid, president romney i'd be nervous tonight that the president would waffle and give in to the democrats and the liberal republicans but this president has the guts to deliver on his promise. and i believe he will do it. >> jeanine: clearly he does. i don't think there is anyone at this point who would say that president trump doesn't have guts. i mean, but let me go to austan now. you know that there are democratic senators, heidi
heitkamp, as well as manchin. they are in red states. they are democrats. what happens to them if they vote for a conservative nominee in a state that is overwhelmingly red? >> what happens among their voters? >> jeanine: yes. >> in congress? >> jeanine: do they get elected? >> you know, i don't know. you are quite right. they are in tough races. you know, i would be remiss not to remind everyone that the democrats were in office and they had the longest filibuster and held up the proposed justice merrick garland. so you can see why the democrats are feeling like this was a power play that was not justified. i think that the democrats in red states that are in tough races, it's going to matter a lot to them who gets nominated as a candidate. >> jeanine: it will be a conservative. we all know that. >> is it someone reasonable or does it seem extreme? >> jeanine: it will be a
conservative. they are not happy. if they are not happy, people going in restaurants you can be sure they won't be happy with the president's nominee. thank you, gentlemen. >> thank you. >> jeanine: coming up, daniel hoffman and sebastian gorka on president trump's upcoming summit with russian president vladimir putin as this special edition of "hannity" continues.
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>> jeanine: welcome back to this special edition of "hannity." the white house announced yesterday that president trump will hold a one-on-one summit with russian president vladimir putin on july 16, in helsinki, finland. on air force one today, the president told reporters that he will discuss with putin the
ongoing situations in syria and ukraine, election meddling and the deescalation of tensions with russia and china. president trump's national security adviser, ambassador john bolton was in moscow earlier this week meeting with putin and their other russian officials to help prepare for the summit. he also addressed critics who believe the meeting shouldn't happen due to the ongoing russia probe taking place here in the united states. take a look. >> well, i think a lot of people have said or implied over time that a meeting between president trump and president putin would somehow prove some nexus between the trump campaign and the kremlin, which is complete nonsense. but i don't think that has been helpful. the fact is that it is important for the leaders of the two countries to meet. there are a wide range of issues despite the differences between us where both
president trump and president putin think they may be able to find constructive solutions. i would like to see someone say that is a bad idea. >> jeanine: joining us with reaction, contributor daniel hoffman. former contributor to president trump and strategist sebastian gorka. good evening, gentlemen. dan, i'm going to start with you. you know what is fascinating to me is that, you know, since john bolton has been secretary of state, i mean we have had a meeting with kim jong un. we now have a meeting lined up in two weeks with putin. it is just amazing, is it not, that we have been able to have these sit-downs when the last administration didn't know how to meet with anybody like putin or kim jong un. >> ambassador bolton is absolutely right about the importance of high-level diplomacy. i would caution just from my
experience at the c.i.a. about managing our expectations. we have an extraordinarily complex and challenging relationship with russia where few of our interests intersect. we also have this background of russian's nefarious espionage investigations. which ambassador bolton called "an act of war." we will talk about the important issues of the day. including the arms control. the start streety is due to ex -- treaty is due to expire. there is ukraine and syria. not to mention traditional issues of counterterrorism, proliferation and fighting organized crime together. >> jeanine: sebastian gorka, let's talk about ukraine that barack obama did nothing about. what leverage do we have with russia to be able to get them to forget about coming to the table, they are already at the
table but how do we level them? >> well, russia is in a world of hurt right now. if you look at every single significant policy decision that the president has taken in the last year and a half, judge, which has any impact on russia, they are been hurt. whether it is unleashing fracking in the anwar, whether it's getting the nato nations finally to pay 2% of the defense budget or whether it's arming the ukrainians, we have a lot of leverage. this is a country in a death spiral. 600,000 russians die every year. more than are born. the average mortality of a russian male is under 60. so, there is all kind of things with the economic, diplomatic that we can leverage. but the big problem is this is a nation run by a former k.g.b. officer. the kind of people that daniel was dodging in moscow for many years. this is not your average country. >> jeanine: all right, daniel. you are shaking your head. add to it.
>> i'm nodding. dr. gorka is 100% right about that. >> jeanine: all right. but then, what do we have to offer them? >> well, you know, i think dr. gorka was right about the leverage in ukraine. what scares president putin is democracy. having a country on his border with a large number of ethnic russians and the russian-speaking population like ukraine, which is growing in its relationship with the european union and with nato and has just received tomahawk antitank weapons. javelin antitank weapons from the united states. i think we need to double down on our support to ukraine. i would like to see the president publicly make a statement, a commitment to ukraine's territorial integrity and independence at the summit. i think a harder one for us is going to be syria, which this week russia launched attacks in southwestern syria that resulted in the deaths of lots of civilians. they broke the truss that was agreed to -- the truce that
was agreed to a year ago. that was designed to let assad focus on other allies. i'm not sure i see us breaking through with a resolution. >> jeanine: does russia, dr. gorka, have any kind of incentive to get out of syria? what does it benefit russia to be in syria? >> well, look, russia has to be understood as different from other countries. this isn't belgium, this isn't canada. i always label russia as an anti-status quo actor. they meddle in other people's business. they destabilize regions to profit from that instability. however, they are in trouble in syria. remember, secretary mattis said u.s. forces have killed over 200 russian mercenaries in syria. it's not going well. it doesn't play well at home. they want relevance. putin wants to demonstrate relevance and he knows with donald trump this is a very, very different president. >> jeanine: and when they have this meeting -- and i just have a few seconds
left -- what do you think we are going to come out with? but i think we are going. i want to thank you both for being with us tonight. thank you sebastian gorka and thank you, dan hoffman. more of the special edition of "hannity" after the break. since my stroke, he hasn't left my side. with the right steps, 80% of recurrent ischemic strokes could be prevented. a bayer aspirin regimen is one step to help prevent another stroke. so, i'm doing all i can to stay in his life. be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. jushis local miracle ear t at helped andrew hear more of the joy in her voice. just one hearing test is all it took for him to hear more of her laugh... and less of the background noise around him. for helen, just one visit to her local miracle-ear is all it
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