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we'll be live from helsinki with all the details. you do not want to miss monday's show. by the way, don't miss the show. don't underestimate the president. let not your heart be troubled. laura ingraham is next. we'll see you live from helsinki on monday. have a great weekend. >> laura: good evening, from washington i'm laura ingraham. this is "the ingraham angle." i thought things were supposed to slow down in the summertime. there's no slow time with president trump and we'll have insight and analysis you cannot and will not get from anywhere else tonight. president trump meeting with the british prime minister and the queen today and on monday, he's set for that one-on-one meeting with russian president, vladimir putin. newt beginning rich is going to analyze the president's entire overseas trip and preview what's in store for monday. back at home, a major development in the mueller probe, interesting timing too.
the doj announcing new charges against 12 russians for hacking the democrats in the 2016 election. but is there any evidence of collusion? doesn't look like it. it's the end of the week so raymond arroyo will be here for friday follies. a special london edition and the latest on that overhyped trump protest balloon flying madness above london and then discuss the president's meeting with her majesty. plus dinesh d'souza joins us for a discussion about george w. bush and bill clinton. first the top story, thousands of demonstrators hit the streets to protest the president's visit to england today where trump continue to challenge the global status quo. as we reported last night, president trump gave an interview with the "london sun" and he said treresa may's approach to brexit could put
uk/u.s. trade could be in jeopardy. today he clarified things and shared his view on several international matters. >> i didn't criticize the prime minister. i have a lot of respect for the prime minister and it was a story that was generally fine. but didn't put in what i said about the prime minister and i said tremendous things and it's called fake news and we still have a lot of problems with the good old recording instrument. based on just trade in general and our other relationship would be fine, but the trade is a little bit tricky. we want to be able to trade and they want to be able to trade and i think we'll be able to do that, okay. i think she's doing a traffic -- terrific job, by the way. >> i wonder if you agree with the president of the united states that immigration has damaged the cultural fabric of europe and perhaps you can elaborate on that, what did you mean by that? >> i think it's been very bad for europe. i think they better watch themselves because you are
changing culture and you are changing a lot of things. you're changing security. >> the u.k. has a proud history of welcoming people who are fleeing persecution to our country. we have a proud history of welcoming people who want to come to our country and contribute to our economy and contribute to our society. and over the years, over all immigration has been good. >> you giving russian president vladimir putin, the upper hand, heading into your talks given that you are challenging these alliances that he seeks to break up and destroy. >> see, that's such dishonest recording, of course because it happens to be nbc which is possibly worse than cnn, possibly, possibly. let me explain something, we have left nato with more money, with more unity, with more spirit than nato has probably ever had. >> how would you characterize your relationship with the united kingdom? >> i would say i give our relationship in terms of grade the highest level of special. so we start off with special.
i would give our relationship with the uk and now especially after this two days, with your prime minister, i would say the highest level of special. >> laura: i'd like to have the highest level of special introduction of my next guest, newt beginning ring. ahead of a new show on netflix. very special. what did you make of that appearance today with teresa may great to see you as always, very special. after the "sun" article that did have an audio component. so they did quote him but apparently they didn't quote him fully on what he said about may. how did that go down? >> i think sometimes trump spends a fair amount of time make up ground he lost. they're allies, they are friends. i suspect he was embarrassed it came out the way it did. she has a very weak government
in a lot of trouble and that didn't help but i thought the press conference helped her and it was also the tone was about right, i think. trump is actually at a very good trip. even "the new york times" admitted in a shocking editorial that he accomplished a great deal of what obama tried to do with nato but failed to do. and trump must have got an lot done for even "the new york times" to say it. >> laura: if someone comes to our country, a foreign leader and criticizes our president or our policies, we don't much like that in the united states. and i think donald trump durant like that. when we had previous mexican presidents have done that about immigration, i know i hit him hard on the radio. it didn't feel right. giving the interview to the sun, it was a ridiculous mistake.
>> it was a mistake. he said, look, he's had a very good trip. >> laura: but he has apologized and clarified. >> he has done good things overall. trump is a little bit like a baseball player who strikes out but also hits a lot of home runs but there's some balance in there. that's part of his style. >> laura: and he is relatively new, a year and a half into this and still a lot of successes. and still lots of successes. the criticism of the president and i have to play this, tom donalan today on cnn former security adviser for president barack obama. today on cnn. >> i think you would tell him cancel it. >> i wouldn't have scheduled it in the first place. we don't have the kind of unity you'd like to have coming into something like this. >> there are no goals? how many summits did barack obama did that were more like parties that kept the catering office busy in the white house. that's ridiculous.
>> i think it's inappropriate to measure the comments of an obama era official as though they're real. i mean, these people represented a world view of weakness and a world view of, quote, leading from the rear. john kerry's model of being secretary of state is anywhere there's a four-star hotel with a five-star restaurant any time. if you watch what president trump is completing and nato leaders are getting to the level of commitment president bush and president obama asked for and trump got them to say yes. there are a number of these things that are happening that represent a substantial gain partly by force of his personality. >> laura: and he's different from the usual. i mean, people -- and i think a lot of the smart people, the council on foreign relations,
the brook institution, they spent their lives dedicated to gee political understanding and written these articles that most people haven't read. information and this guy comes along and says this is ridiculous. why are we paying so much of this burden? and you guys need to cough up more money. and why shouldn't we have a better relationship with russia and china is more of a threat. you can't say that why? >> i think, too, and first of all, trump is probably the most unusual president since andrew jackson in that his personality, his style, his aggressiveness. second, i think what drives the foreign policy establishment crazy is their prestige and their role in the world is
because they're smart and write good papers. >> laura: to complicated for the people to understand and president trump does it better. >> and de values them and we say what if the new model became a electing a president who didn't need us? that's why you see this frenzy on both the right and the left. >> laura: let's face it, the people on the right and there's about this many, five, they're talking just to themselves and maybe a few people on msnbc and that's a dwindling audience, god bless them. today the indictments were handed down, long indictments, russian g.r.u. officers, intelligence officers, what do you make of this, the serious allegations, hacking to american accounts, placing malware into prominent accounts, podesta, the dnc. very serious. >> they're very serious. they raise two questions in my mind. the first is why is it mueller would decide to release this before the president sees putin.
it's odd timing. i don't care frankly because i think it strengthens trump's hand to walk in and say to putin, you guys say you didn't do that? we just indicted 12 of your people. and the second question which i would raise which is an important question if we are going to start going after people, there are going to be so many chinese that we should be indicted this is a very interesting standard to start setting. probably the right standard but it does mean we'll go after other country's nationals in their own homeland and indict them. that would be a big change. >> laura: and trump did say today he would confront russia about the question of meddling before the indictments were handed down. let's watch. >> we'll be talking about meddling. and i will absolutely bring that up. i don't think you'll have any gee, i did it, i did it, you got me. there won't be a perry mason
here, i don't think. but you don't know what will happen. i will firmly ask the question. >> laura: there's a narrative they can't get off. trump cozy to putin and mean to our allies. it's a drumbeat you hear all day long and sometimes when you're friends you have to have an honest relationship. >> if they listen to president trump said to chancellor merkel when he went right at her and said don't accept the russian pipeline. buy our liquid natural gas instead. he's threatening putin with billions of dollars of losses. and that's not the act of somebody in putin's favor. >> laura: the more we are able to traian late with russia and china, that would be disastrous. and he continues to show up people on matters that are
complicated and important, but he said it doesn't have to be that linear. we can have better relationship with more countries. >> he also has a model in his own head that we live in an age when leaders can communicate directly with leaders. it changes the whole nature of diplomacy. he does that with kim jong-un in north korea. he does it with the president of china and now with the president of russia. as churchill said, jaw, jaw, jaw is better than war, war, war. i would rather have them talk. >> laura: and now democrats are saying we shouldn't talk. in the '80s all they said is we should talk. speaking of, there was the big trump balloon and the protests in london. yeah, there were protests in london. remember the protests against reagan and against bush. we have some of the video. reagan, '82, bush, berlin and
hundreds of dozens of people in spain. "82 for reagan. fires and huge mass protests. you hear we're the most hated because of donald trump. you hear that all the time. >> i spent a fair amount of time in rome and recently i was in paris. i don't think we're hated. i think people on the left react like people on the left and of course a lot of the reagan demonstrations were paid for by the soviet union who were subsidizing the movement which the liberals don't like to concede. but i think that -- so somebody puts up a big balloon. why should the -- my first reaction is, this is the best they've got? this is the answer of an intellectual answer to trump? >> laura: one point, we're running late. on the trade issue. he's getting slammed for tariffs. one of the top respected
analysts had a great quote i think we can play it, if you don't mind. let's just listen to this because it blows away what everyone is saying about tariffs and whether trump can win a trade war. let's watch. >> we are winning and will win the trade war and i think just look at the performance of u.s. markets relative to china and others. i call it the reagan moment for trade. when people realize at the end of the day the u.s. will prevail because it's a less open economy, it's a more dynamic economy. >> laura: they'll see the trump approach to trade is work. >> we're the largest market in the world. everybody else needs access here more than we need access anywhere. >> laura: newt gingrich, very special. i got to get to rome this summer. mueller indicts russians for hacking the democrats. what about collusion? we'll have a full report directly ahead. ission investmen,
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curious given the president's meeting with vladimir putin monday and there was this important clarification. >> there's no allegation in this indictment that any american citizen committed a crime. that no allegation that the conspiracy changed the vote count or affected any election result. >> laura: not quite at collusion yet, are we? let's bring in some experts kim strasel, saul wisenberg. and scott bolden. your reaction today, scott, the handing down of indictments against russian operatives with the g.r.u.? >> it keeps rolling forward. the 12 indictments as and the five convictions. the whole issue is america and doj but in particular the white house have got to take this meddling seriously and i think these indictments further that process along. what i worry about most, whether
i'm a democrat or republican is if this president doesn't accept it or take it seriously what the administrative agencies and government to prevent this from bothing the mid-terms or 2020. it's a real risk. >> laura: hacking is a real problem. we had a top intel official today saying our infrastructure is highly vulnerable to hacks which can shut down our entire power grid in the country and really serious stuff. but -- >> and our border, too. >> laura: counting indictments doesn't get us to this grand theory of collusion upon which this investigation was initially started and kicked off. but you've read more indictments than i would ever have read in my life. what did you glean from what dropped today and do you think the timing is an any way at the least curious, saul? >> well, it's a lot of questions. let me start with the timing
being curious or suspicious. i doubt it. i don't know how long the putin trip or summit has been planned. i heard it's only been a few weeks so i seriously doubt that. a couple things though, you talk about indictment counting and you talk about the investigation being about collusion originally. from the beginning the investigation was also about russian interference. also whether they colluded with any people here but also about russian interference in the election. and i think this indictment goes to the heart of that and it's real and it's serious and it certainly buys robert mueller a lot of time and he can say, folks, this is what i've been doing and it wasn't very easy to do and to put together. now, to scott's point, this may seem petty, but you talk about indictment counting and bean counting. it's not 12 indictments. it's one indictment of 12 people. >> you're right. >> there's a perennial -- >> that was petty.
>> by you or by me? >> no, no, by you. but the other thing to remember here is that and scott will validate me on this, and i know you will, too, laura, you don't need much. there is no collusion whatsoever here. it's strictly a russian operation. it's very serious. we should all be very concerned about it, however, under conspiracy law in the united states, once you have a conspiracy, it takes very little to connect a new person to that conspiracy. still have to find them guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. >> laura: and it looks like they're trying to do that in a circuitous way with roger stone. a lot of reporting on the roger stone about whether he knew when the e-mails were going to drop and he denies all this and says they're trying to bankrupt him. gleeful at the rosenstein
announcement. let's watch. >> this is no ordinary criminal case. this is a criminal case that potentially implicates the president and people around him on his campaign. >> donald trump likes to describe this as a witch hunt. this as a witch hunt well, we found some witches and they were indicted. >> my hope is the president and his allies were cease and desist on calling the mueller investigation a witch hunt. >> laura: kimberly, mueller has racked up a lot of indictments. manafort, much of his conduct predates much of this but on the pure issue of trying to influence our election and hack into our systems, it seems like mueller is coming up with facts that are very important and looks like they could probably get some convictions. whether or not it matters because they're not going to get these people to come to the united states. they seem to be hot on the trail of something here. >> look, what was missing from all of those comments is the realization, there's this new
indictment engaging 12 people but none of it has to do with collusion. none of it has to do with obstruction of justice from the trump team as rosenstein made very clear and as he did the last time they came out when they named russian nationals they had charged with hacking and being engaged in our election. i think this is the one disingenuous aspect of the mueller probe which frustrates americans which he spends time uncovering russian plots it would be nice to make it clear because the press doesn't want to go there. the democrats, they are still obsessing every day making it sound like there is an imminent arrest of a trump official at any moment when in fact the guilty pleas or indictments that the special counsel has filed have been unrelated to any of the original accusations. we have a couple on the catch all of lying to the fbi and one
for a supposed wire -- money laundering fraud from a decade ago. >> laura: and we have to remember, rosenstein today said no evidence this changed the outcome of the election. have to be careful how they describe this. well taken. today's charges include no allegations of knowing involvement by anyone in the campaign, no allegations the alleged hacking affected the election results. this is consistent with what we've been saying all along. scott, another thing a friend of mine raised with me, doesn't this also under score how important it was for hillary or anyone in government, high levels of government, not to have unsecure e-mail servers? remember back when we discovered that this e-mail server had been unsecure she was using, very
unusual the way she was keeping her e-mails that peter strzok when this issue was raised with him, pretty much every expert believed the russians were able to hack into her system. he decide not to engage on that issue. if they're so worried about russian hacking, they didn't seem that worried about hacking into hillary's e-mails. >> those agencies ought to be concerned about that. if there's unsecured processes. >> laura: this is a secretary of state having an e-mail server in a house or in the bathroom and -- >> what about hillary clinton for her e-mail being hacked. >> laura: i'm saying if they're worked about russia why were you not concerned about the secretary of state as smart and savvy as she was trying to circumvent the normal course of government. >> i think they were.
>> laura: she was worried? when she was caught she was. she violated them all. >> absolutely. >> laura: saul, go ahead. >> the indictment appears to say it doesn't mention her by name but on the very day the president said russia, if you're listening, find those missing e-mails. they apparently later that night made an attempt to go into her server and find them, and according to the indictment, it was unsuccessful. they have to be describing her. but if i could just speak very briefly to one of kimberly's points, i think it's wrong to say it has nothing to do with his original charter or what he was originally supposed to be look at -- >> i never said that. i said it was behoove him to come out and make clear its one of his main focuses. >> it's in the document. >> rosenstein has already said that for him.
my point is you're right, it's an important point. it doesn't look like they have anything close to a collusion case. >> laura: they're coming empty on it. they're coming up empty on it, saul. >> no, they're not. >> but why are we also -- >> he was supposed to also be look at russian interference in general and this goes to the heart of that. and i think it's very wrong to have said to him it's a witch hunt. now what's he going to do? he wants to get tough with putin and say look what you've done. you had to have known about it. what is putin going to say, this is a guy you have been attacking and saying he is running a witch hunt. >> laura: last word, scott and kim. >> let's talk about briefly, collusion, right. the gop believes since there's no collusion therefore somehow the white house and donald trump are absolved of something. collusion is not a crime. it's an act.
it will be in the body of the indictment. charges whether they're money laundering or something else is what the charges are and the other important thing is this investigation is about russia but it's also about whether there were russian connection to donald trump. let's remember that. >> kimberly, last word. >> mueller could have solved this and made it easier for himself. with the press out there suggesting all the time he has been working nonstop just on the trump campaign, this was his sole focus. we know the mueller campaign leaks. his team puts stuff out and they would have made clear one of their focuses was on the russians or the bigger focus was on that and it wouldn't have caused the white house to then suggest this probe was about something very different. >> laura: the pr on this has always been it's someone in the trump campaign, it's manafort. separate from the legal issues, scott and saul raised great points.
but the pr, donald trump himself is pulling the lever and kimberly is right about that. up next, raymond arroyo will be here to explain how trump's visit with the queen went really well today. and why the media is so obsessed about this protest balloon which i think is cute. the british edition of the friday follies next.
>> laura: i think we realize it's friday the 13th and time for a british edition of the friday follies. queen elizabeth welcomed president trump and melania to windsor castle today. for more we are joined by fox news contributor raymond arroyo. this was awesome. how do you think it went? >> first of all, we're dealing way woman on the throne since 1952 and met 13 american
presidents from truman before she was on the throne and then eisenhower in '57 and after that she met with everybody from ford to carter. >> laura: truman. >> believe it or not, president carter kissed her on the lips, proclaiming that no one's done that since my husband died. today went swimmingly. today 13 presidents have met with queen elizabeth because she met with herbert hoover in a hotel room -- >> laura: look at her smiling. she's having a great time with trump. i love her. >> this say very gracious, beautiful tea and she was smiling and pointing him where to go. there was one awkward moment. >> laura: must you go to the awkward moment? >> i can't imagine what was going through the mind of this queen as they reviewed this honor guard.
>> laura: donald, would you move to the left. you're blocking me, young chap. oh, he has no clue. >> queenie, you were wonderful in the crown. so good in the crown. don't put me up. we're doing bubbles in their heads, not ours. >> laura: i just love her. i'm sorry. 1939 she sat not as queen but sat as the daughter of the king with f.d.r. >> i'm not sure if that happened. that was her mother elizabeth. how could she be so young. edit that out. sorry. >> then there were in central london these protests at the same moment that flooded the streets which is kind of uncharacteristic you'd have this level of protests given putin and others have come to down with virtually no protests. and one person challenged the
protesters a woman named ashe sakar she and she claimed to be protesting trump's immigration policies. and it got ugly. >> while be in westminster alongside others who find border administration is unconscionable he thinks the sight of our elected prime minister holding donald trump's hand -- >> did you find obama deporting 3 million people uncomfortable. >> he's not my hero. >> did you protest against him, did you? >> laura: the centerpiece of the protest is the balloon. i think it's adorable. i want to hit it around with my kids. cnn covered it as if it was a visiting head of state. look at that thing. >> wait until you see this coverage. this is hilarious. they were covering every moment of the floating balloon. >> laura: it's so cute. you've been all over the trump
baby balloon. what is the latest? >> not major stunning developments. it's been up in the air 35 minutes. nothing's changed there. it's got another hour and 35 by under the permission granted by the london mayor. you have to bear in mind there's a lot of political context around this balloon just to repeat what it is, donald trump as a baby in a nappy or a diaper, holding a mobile phone, obviously his favorite weapon of war, twitter. >> laura: he's holding a nappy with his cell phone. >> here's the amazing thing here. it was a 19 foot balloon. this is hardly a blimp. >> laura: they're making it look like a macy's day parade the way you shoot the balloon. >> here's the amazing thing. if you watch closely, the people surrounding it, it's like the israelites around the golden calf.
and they attributed the presence of the balloon with driving trump away from central london. this was practically a pagan -- >> laura: imagine if they would have done something like that with obama. >> the turkish president erdogan was just here. he is charged with horrible atrocities. >> they were smashing the security detail and put him in the hospital. >> he goes there, there are almost no protests. but the last big protests were when george bush visited. 100,000 people showed up in the streets. >> laura: bush equals terrorists. here's the headlines, thousands of a region inflamed in flames. and thousands of people in london, thousands of headlines. thousands of people in london and europe, they have a long, long, long memory about conservative slights but a very,
>> laura: president trump of course making some deman >> laura: president trump of course making some demands of our european counterparts but two former occupants of his office thought it was necessary, of course, to take shots thinly veiled, at our commander in chief. >> i view the role of the united states as very important. the truth of the matter is the way the world is today that if the u.s. takes the lead, others tend to follow. >> do you really want to say we're going to make everybody have a big military but we're not going to help anybody build their own future and change their lives, i don't think so.
>> laura: that's right. the new best buds george w. bush and bill clinton scolded president trump for doing what they did not. take nato to task for decades of free loading on the united states. let's bring in dinesh d'souza. and the you documentary death of a nation comes out and we have the author. it's a little throw take shots at the president while he's abroad. they didn't mention him by name, but come on. >> the fact two guys that ran against each other from opposite parties shows how trump has changed the political cartography the whole map of international relations. now in a sense this should have been done in 1992 when the soviet union collapsed because the whole nato alliance was assembled for the purposes of anti-communism. some of it goes back to world war ii, the reason we pay for
the defense of places like germany and japan is we were afraid of them remilitarizing like in the '30s and '40s. it took an outsider, trump, to do it. and to watch these old geezers complain about it, they are like toy soldiers who walk into the wall and keep going. the examination was overdue in their time and happening final now. >> laura: pat bucannon was on radio with me yesterday and said look, the days of the open border, endless trade deals with no amendments, that day is over. endless wars, those days are over. it's the last gasp of the old political establishment that was a bipartisan cabal that weren't listening to the people and they were both two-term presidents but on the blue collar issues we care about, manufacturing, jobs,
trades, immigration, they were both total disasters. >> what i find amusing is people focus on the injustice of illegal immigration to natives, to people of america. but i would like to point out the injustice to legal immigrants. i'm a legal immigrant and it took me several years and many of us don't come from countries where you can across over a line. so the illegal immigrant is jumping the line against the interests of the legal immigrant who is standing in line. that aspect of the injustice of it has rarely been pointed out. the democrats and also with clinton and bush, they're conflating legal and illegal immigration as if they amount to the same thing. >> laura: he did that all day long at the event in arkansas and george w. bush, again, a very nice man, i like him personally but he just gets it wrong on immigration every single time but throws the word out like nativism and isolation
protectionism. they just trip off his tongue without any reference to the current political dynamic. and this is what he said yesterday about the immigration issue. >> i'm disturbed by the debate that's taking place because i think it undermines the goodness of america. >> laura: so you're dinesh you're a bad person if you don't agree with the bush open border amnesty plus idea. you're a bad person. it's very christian. >> this immigration debate is so filled with cliches and many happen to be wrong. even those who say america was in a sense created by immigrants. that's a half truth. america was actually a country created by settlers. settlers create the original country that immigrants subsequently want to move to. immigrants are attracted to the kind of society settlers build.
and that's why they immigrate but that distinction is often lost by people who say america was created by immigrants. >> laura: looking forward to your film. thank you for being here with us. i almost couldn't believe my eyes on headlines by boston and check this out, speaking of immigration. the city council headline a hearing on whether to grant voting rights to some noncitizens in local elections. voting rights. the measure is at a stand still because some of the council members are getting flooded with calls and e-mails from residents who are angry about the idea. what a surprise. joining me with reaction, florida's republican attorney general. pam, we have seen this issue pop up in california, where there's been a push for, of course, full health care benefits for illegal immigrants and driver's licenses. everybody has driver's licenses. concern about voter fraud. but in boston it would be people with green cards but a lot of
categories of people who are legally in the country but not yet citizens. what do you think about that? >> well, obviously we're a nation of laws. they're doing this in maryland. they started it in various cities in local elections in maryland. it's not illegal in local elections but it is in state and federal. so, laura, just talking about the voter fraud, my gosh, how do you distinguish -- in florida, on the ballot you have multiple races how do you know -- first of all, what kind of i.d. are they going to use? their green card to come vote? and are they going to create separate ballots to ensure they don't vote in state and federal races. because if they do they could go to prison or be deported. from a practical standpoint i don't know how they'll make that work. >> laura: it reminds me with the push to legalize medical marijuana.
first it's medical marijuana and then the door is wide open and all of a sudden you're in colorado which i love but lots of people think it's a big mistake. i have to move on to what they're doing to brett kavanaugh. and there was a chance of the democrats' chances of derailing the nomination. that now they're -- this is just great. now they are trying to get him by association to this me too movement by saying a judge he clerked for, himself, was charged with abusing or accused of abusing clerks. how did brett kavanaugh not know about this? this is how low it gets. tell us about this story and where you think it's going to go. >> i think these are extremists of the party and they have nothing on judge kavanaugh. that's why they're going to go
after him with everything they've got. the ridiculous rhetoric. they said he threatens american lives by his opinions is ridiculous. let me tell you about my senator, bill nelson in florida. bill nelson, before -- after president trump said four people, gave us our four nominees said he would blanketly oppose all four. how absurd is that when he previously supported one of them to be on the bench? it makes no sense. they can stand shoulder to shoulder with the extremists of the party or follow the law. elections have consequences and this is our nominee. the three things i always say are so important in a judge and especially a justice, are intelligence, humility and integrity. no one will -- he is brilliant. you and i know he is beyond reproach. and i got to know him -- you know him much better than i. i got to know him personally
because i hired his law clerk as my solicitor general. and what impressed me is his humility. he is a real guy. >> laura: what they're doing is pathetic and transparent and sickening and not going to work. that's all the good stuff. pam, have a great weekend. we really appreciate it and next up, a group of young interns claimed they were refused an uber service because of what they were wearing and be here to tell us the story and it's good. don't go away. phones have made our lives effortless.
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>> laura: three republican interns were reportedly kicked out of an uber car this week after the driver allegedly noticed what they were wearing. to tell us what caused this expulsion from uber we are joined by matthew handy and congression congressional interns who were also in the car at the time. isn't it fun to be an intern in washington in the summer. it's the coolest thing to do. congrats on getting the internship. matthew, what the heck happened? i'm giving a hint. where were you going by the way? >> we were headed to the d.c. m.a.g.a. meetup.
>> laura: the make america great again meetup. >> that's where we were going. we called the uber and he shows up at george washington university where we're staying and he sees us and is like is that a make america great again cap? >> we were holding them just like this. he couldn't see anything. it was -- >> laura: very observant. >> is that the hat? and we're like, yeah, he's like i can't do this ride. so we're kind of look at each other because she was in the car and he was trying to get in and i'm standing to the side. and so, we're like, this is a joke. and he's like, i'm serious, i can't do this ride. i had this happen about -- last month the same thing happened,
the uber was joking. >> laura: so, this is just wild. >> yes. >> laura: people get into ubers with bare feet. i mean i would rather have someone with a hat i disagree with. but as an african-american woman, as a conservative republican, apparently you're not allowed to think certain things. that's what goes through my mind or you don't deserve to be in this car. i find that to -- it's funny to joke about it. but it's not funny in another way. what is going through your mind? >> well, i was frightened. i was angry. but what i was thinking afterwards was, how many times has he done this and gotten away with it? will this will "b" the new norm? are we judged by the way we think? that's the same as being judged
by your religion, gender or race. i was very upset. >> laura: did you get his name? >> we did. >> laura: we're not going to reveal it. but elijah. >> i would say he made a decision and i respect it. i didn't question him or ask for an explanation because i didn't want things to escalate, you know. >> laura: good for you. >> like we have seen in the recent moves, a senator, i believe, it was -- i can't think of his name. >> laura: mcconnell. mitch mcconnell. >> mitch mcconnell. he was ran out of a restaurant and his wife also faced some protesters. i didn't -- >> and cabinet officials. and steven miller and sarah huckabee. you cannot be -- this is the kirsten nielsen opepisode.
this is where they have gotten. so you see this happening. you said you respected his decision. i would respectfully say to you i don't respect his decision. it is not up to us to judge people based on whether they're -- you can say i disagree with you. you make a funny comment but to say you're not worthy of a ride. you're not worthy of a ride. i mean, i think of all the great civil rights leaders. and now, it's your mind. you can discriminate against someone for their mind and opinions. matthew? >> i mean, of course, i was ticked off. i mean, for this to happen, and you always hear about these things. so with sarah huckabee and all the others. this would never happen to me because i'm not in the public eye and there's no reason for
this to happen to people like us. and so -- it took a while for me to calm down. i sent out a tweet. >> laura: i requested an uber to go to a maga meetup at trump hotel and held my red maga hat in my hand. looked at me and said i cannot take this ride. he had no right to refuse service. uber, unacceptable. uber said we take this very seriously. send us a direct message so we can connect. did they connect with you? >> they did. and they were not help. they sent the same generated responses, i said you can call me. i sent my phone number and e-mail. they never called. >> laura: we have to ask uber
right now, does this apply to individuals who are pro life? who are uber drivers who don't like a planned parenthood t-shirt and maybe an older woman who needs a ride somewhere. if that's the policy, that's fine. you can discriminate against someone on the way sis of their thinking or political opinion or mind. it doesn't surprise me. you had that horrible thing at starbucks with african-american men who i think were treated unfairly. and that got a lot of coverage. we'll see if we can get coverage for this. you guys have a great summer. identify want to hang out with them after the show. we'll be right back. stay there.
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