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on a name. we're going to get that a bit later on. and that's how fox reports this sunday july 15, 2018. i'm jon scott. special report up next with bill hemmer in for bret baier live from helsinki. >> president trump says he's taking low expectations into his summit with vladimir putin. what's the impact after the indictment of a dozen russian for election interference? we will examine the popularity of vladimir putin in russia. welcome to special report. >> good evening. welcome to helsinki finland where it is just past 1:00 in the morning on a monday here already. i'm bill hemmer in tonight for bret baier. lovely picture we have tonight here on the water. we are only 12 hours away where the leaders of the two most powerful nations in the world will get together and talk about their differences and how to keep them from sparking a new
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cold war. the summit between president trump and vladimir putin comes on the heels of a blockbuster indictment of a dozen russian operatives accused of interfering in the election of 2016. and that issue may dominate the coverage as well. chief white house correspondent john roberts is with me tonight here in helsinki. john, good evening. >> bill, good morning to you from helsinki. just down the street, actually from where you are, some american experts have observed and president trump agrees that relations between the united states and russia are at their lowest point since the end of the cold war. and tomorrow in the same place where president reagan met gorbachev almost 30 years ago he will attempt a turn around. president trump again lowered expectations for tomorrow's summit in an interview with cbs saying he doesn't know what to expect. >> it was mutually agreed, let's have a meeting. i think it is a good thing to meet. i do believe in meetings. nothing bad is going to come out
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of it. and maybe some good will come out. >> with the indictment friday of 12 russian intelligence agents for hacking dnc computers, election meddling will loom large over the summit. while the indictments were announced, after president trump appeared with theresa may in britain, the president was aware they were coming when he said this. >> will we be talking about meddling? i will absolutely bring that up. i don't think we will have any gee i did it you got me. there won't be a perry mason here i don't think but you never know what happens. >> putin has repeatedly denied that the russian government had anything to do with the attempts to throw the election. he may find it more difficult to stand by that assertion tomorrow. >> he made it plain that he said the russian state was not involved and he was very clear with his translator that that's the word that he wanted. now we will have to see given that these are allegations concerning gru agents, obviously
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part of the russian state, what he says about it now. >> democrats some of whom wanted president trump to cancel the summit are urging him to beware. >> i think it is too late for him to cancel the summit, but president trump needs to make it clear that he knows who he's meeting with. he's not meeting with a competitor. he's not meeting with a potential friend. he's meeting with an adversary. >> the u.s. ambassador to russia, says as the midterms approach, president trump will send a clear message to putin. >> put them on notice as we have already in our meetings at a diplomatic level. that's why tomorrow's session is going to be important. november is looming. and we have to make sure we can navigate this relationship through the months ahead. >> in addition to election meddling, issues on the table for tomorrow's summit include nuclear weapons, syria, and russia's occupation of crimea, which president trump says he doesn't like, but has not said he couldn't live with. >> you can't rule out the possibility he might recognize
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russia's annexation of crimea? >> highly unlikely. >> before leaving scotland for helsinki, president trump again raised eyebrows with his views toward america's european allies. while the president has repeatedly bristled about eu trade tariffs, he went so far as to call the eu a foe. >> well, i think we have a lot of foes. i think the european union is a foe what they do to us in trade. you wouldn't think of the european union, but they are a foe. russia is a foe in certain respects. china's a foe economically certainly, they are a foe. but that doesn't mean they're bad. it doesn't mean anything. it means that they are competitors. >> and in his meetings with the british prime minister theresa may last week, president trump told her she should play hard ball with the eu over brexit. at the press conference on friday, president trump revealed that he had made a suggestion to theresa may that she thought was too brutal. today she said that suggestion
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was that she should sue the eu over brexit rather than negotiate with them. bill? >> john roberts in helsinki, thank you. good evening and good morning and all of that here in the north. the russians and the fins know each other pretty well through history. correspondent ellison barber is here with that story. good evening. >> good evening to you. a whole lot of history, for the fins and russians a significant part of that history is war. >> in 1939, the soviet union invaded finland, historians say 25,000 fins died or went missing during the winter war. russia lost at least 48,000. this wasn't finland's first fight with russia. finland was part of the russian empire until 1917. more recently the fins and russians at times have a tepid relationship. the government says russia was behind a 2013 cyberattack on the foreign ministry. local polls show that most finnish people dislike president putin and most dislike president donald trump too.
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only 2% say putin makes the world a safer place. only 4% say trump makes the world a safer place. today in helsinki, some protesters marched along the cobblestone streets carrying signs and chanting. >> i think they should work for a better world because they are guys who have power to change things, and i wish everybody -- [inaudible] -- but i'm afraid these guys aren't doing it. >> but the protest was relatively small, nothing like the protests in the u.k. and most people who talked with us were not fazed by the meeting at all. >> i don't know what they are talking about. can you tell me what they are talking about? >> why did the president of russia and the president of the united states choose to meet in helsinki, finland? >> we're known for our honesty and our education. >> the simple answer could be logistics. >> we're just a place to hold the meeting. >> president trump already planned to be in europe. president putin wanted to
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represent russia at the world cup. after all, it took place in his country. and helsinki is an hour and 45 minute flight from moscow. or maybe everyone just likes the fins. >> we're trustworthy people. >> there's always at least one thing people can get excited about during this meeting it seems to be beer. this is beer that is made by a brewery in finland, just north of helsinki. the brewing company says that they made 10,000 of these trump putin beers and they sold out in about a day. it's a brewery called rock paper scissors brewery about 40 minutes away. >> they are good people. >> 24 hours. we will try it. >> thank you. that summit bringing together an american president leading a deeply divided country with a russian leader who until recently has enjoyed solid support at home. tonight senior foreign affairs correspondent amy kellogg looks at putin's sometimes puzzling popularity and what's affecting it now.
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>> vladimir putin rode to power for a fourth term as president in march with his biggest election victory ever. in his nearly two decades at the helm, he has lifted russian living standards and many will tell you restored pride in this country. standing up to the west, taking back crimea, and asserting himself as a major player in global politics, particularly through his intervention in syria. but his approval ratings which have often been in the 80% range despite sanctions and international isolation took a significant hit in june. >> the polls as much as we can trust the russian polls but at least they see a kind of trend. we see in the last month the putin popularity fell -- fell, it was around 15 points which is a lot >> that drop has been attributed to the government's decision to raise the pension age, a move that brought demonstrators out on to the streets last month. natalia who distributes aid to the needy says there's been a serious up tick in the last
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several months of working poor unable to make ends meet and not just in the poorer lands. >> translator: previously requesting from the regions now are coming from the moscow area. the number of families in need has grown sharply. >> she attributes this to the wage stagnation of recent years coupled with rising prices but it is the economic situation is getting worse for many, people say the majority put up with it because it is still much better than in soviet times or the chaotic 90s. but a recent poll indicated one third of young russians would like to move abroad. >> russia is experiencing an unprecedented brain drain right now. we've only seen the likes of it in the 1990s after the collapse of the soviet union. >> while russians have largely supported putin's increased military spending and adventures abroad, focus groups show they are now clamoring for more money to be spent on social programs and development for russians. many say that russian
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nationalism particularly in the wake of a successful hosting in the soccer world cup is resurging, the question of whether russia is on the rise or in decline remains an open one. bill >> amy kellogg, thank you. let's talk more about the summit with kansas republican senator back in kansas city tonight, sir, thank you for your time, and our thoughts are with your community in kansas city after the shooting of those police officers earlier today. we certainly hope everything turns out after that. thank you here. >> thank you for that. >> what should president trump expect in 12 or 14 hours here? >> well, a visit to moscow, to russia is any indication, you will see a lot of denial, long conversations, and no admission of any errors on the part of russian government officials or the country. so i hope -- what i hope happens
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is that the president -- i think this is especially useful this visit now, i really do believe that the two presidents meeting is a good thing. but i think now president trump with the indictments that were just recently announced has the ability to demonstrate to the russians that the interference in our elections was real, confirmed by a series of indictments, and i would expect the conversation to be about nature of our relationship, if the russians want it to be improved, that we need to have no more interference in elections in 2018 or 2020, recognition that crimea and ukraine are important to us and the world and that those borders sovereignty matters and a desire to see that we get a plan in syria that brings this bloodbath to an end. so lots of issues. but i think the most important thing is that we'll see the
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leaders sitting down, trying to figure out if there is a path forward on any of them. >> yeah, you just described your trip briefly there to russia a few weeks ago. you sound frustrated in your voice. but yet it's described as a breakthrough for the first time in five years. how come? along with ambassador huntsman, senator? >> we had a very -- in my view very useful visit. what i would say is that it may be a message to president trump that the russian media and government officials described our visit totally different than it was. i don't believe the russians when they say they didn't interfere in our elections. americans should not believe russians when they describe the meetings we had as inconsequential, as easy, as nothing was presented to the russians that was any kind of threat. i don't mean a threat in a military sense, but a threat in whether or not we're going to have better relations. so i would encourage the president to have other americans surrounding him in his
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meeting with president trump. the russians are propagandas. they can say and their media will report whatever they say. and it would be nice to have others in the room who can then reaffirm what president trump has to say about what transpired in the meeting. but it was a very useful meeting -- >> we don't believe that will be the case tomorrow. i would suggest to our viewers watch three things, how is that one-on-one session relayed to the outside world? watch the body language during the press conference that will follow. and watch chris wallace's interview with vladimir putin and see how he describes that meeting, and then you can match that up with president trump's description. i think those are your three markers here in about 12 or 14 hours, sir. you agree with that? >> well, again, i would be very cautious about what russians say about any meeting. but i do hope that good things come from this one-on-one conversation. and we'll see what the press
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reports, what the russian press and what the world press reports on the nature of those meetings based on what those two individuals say about it. good point about body language as you watch the two leaders together. bill: no question same thing with chairman kim as we saw in singapore a few weeks ago. i think everybody has their wish list about tomorrow. here's chuck schumer's wish list that came out earlier today. press putin on the election meddling that you just talked about, send indicted russians to the u.s. for trial, which trey gowdy mentioned earlier today as well and keep the russia sanctions in place. my guess is the sanctions will not move tomorrow. do you feel otherwise? >> i don't know what the president will say about sanctions, but the message we delivered as members of congress as the united states senate in russia is your behavior has to change before those sanctions will be lifted. and a significant portion of those sanctions can only be lifted by congressional action, not just by president alone. the thing i would add to that
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list, be great if those indicted individuals were extradited to the united states, but the thing i would add to that list is use this as an opportunity to tell the russians that the european american alliance is strong and use this as an opportunity to reassure nato that the united states and nato are aligned in our efforts to hold back russian aggression coming the direction of europe. we have spent fy 19, the budget we're talking about in congress right now, appropriates 6.5 billion dollars and we have 34,000 troops in europe under the european command with other soldiers and marines rotating in and out, navy personnel as well, designed to reassure our allies that we are with them because of russian efforts to pull us apart. i hope the president reassures europeans that we're with them and i hope he makes that clear to putin that this is an alliance that works in the best interest, not just of europe, but in the best interest of the
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security and future of the united states of america. bill: senator thank you for your time. jerry moran the republican from kansas with us in kansas city tonight. thank you, sir, very much. >> thank you, bill. bill: when special report returns here in helsinki, progress is reported on talks to return the remains of american soldiers missing since the korean war. and will president trump's talk with putin about religious prisoners in russia break ground? right now we are behind the scenes, though, in helsinki, finland. summertime here in helsinki and the cruise ship are leaving the harbor. what a remarkable time this time of the year. it is daylight literally 20, 21 hours a day as it is right now late in the day. this is our fox news set-up. you saw chris wallace on fox news sunday. this is where we are broadcasting live today and again tomorrow, right across the street from where presidents putin and trump will meet
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the california democratic party has snubbed incumbent senator dianne feinstein by giving its endorsement to her november opponent, state senator kevin deleon. a vote was taken on saturday. among the party's roughly 360 executive members. feinstein easily defeated de leon in the primary last month but since he came in second he qualified for the general election ballot in that state. u.s. and north korean officials held productive talks today to talk about the return of american servicemembers remains missing since the korean war. that's according to mike pompeo, the secretary of state. he says working level meetings between u.s. and north korean officials will begin tomorrow, about 7700 u.s. soldiers are listed as missing from the korean war. 5300 are believed to be in north korea still. there are other big issues out there, besides the russia summit, and they will all need the president's attention when he comes back home.
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we survey some of those from washington tonight. >> president trump will return to a united states this week where foes abound just as much as abroad. one sign of that, house democrats applauding fbi special agent peter strzok. mr. trump found his testimony worthy of disdain. >> i thought it was a disgrace to our country. >> for all the contentious atmosphere of those open herings -- hearings, republicans say closed-door hearings are yielding process. lisa page returns monday for more. >> i'm not going to characterize her testimony because i think that would be not in spirit of what we're trying to do with transcribed interviews. i will say there's new information we have been able to gain today, and that new information is credible. >> elsewhere the president's tough talk on tariffs is meeting not with productive negotiation as hoped but with retaliation, potentially hurting american manufacturers and farmers, often in states where trump won big. >> so at some point this year, i
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think it will show up in the economy. that's what we're trying to avoid. >> i'm not a big tariff fan and i'm disappointed that the president has taken that route and i hope he gets off of it pretty soon. >> democrats attempts to slow walk the nomination of supreme court pick brett kavanaugh are showing faint signs of success if only because his paper trial is huge encompassing not just years on the bench but in the bush white house and on ken starr's probe, 20,000 pages on that alone. >> i have known brett kavanaugh for nearly 30 years since law school. but i don't know the details of what he did in the bush administration, what he did on judge starr's independent counsel team. and i certainly haven't read most of his 300 opinions. >> democrats hope that kavanaugh's hearing won't happen until after labor day, but barring any unseen revelation, delay may be all they have. >> we saw three democrats vote with all the republicans for neil gorsuch. i think we will see something in that range for brett kavanaugh. >> and democrats continue to step up pressure on the administration over the
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separation of immigrant families at the border, hammering at over the slow pace of reunification, but that message is having a hard time getting aired as the helsinki summit and the kavanaugh confirmation drown it out. bill? bill: never stops, thank you, doug, doug mcel way in washington tonight. in a moment here president trump's history with the russians. first though a look at what some of our fox affiliates around the country are covering tonight. in chicago, police say body cameras show a man was fatally shot by an officer on saturday in the south side neighborhood was armed with what appeared to be a handgun. the shooting sparked a clash between angry residents and police officers. police say four people were arrested and some officers suffered minor injuries there. fox 8 new orleans where officials at a zoo are investigating how a jaguar escaped from his habitat on saturday and killed six animals. it was captured and returned to his night house after being sedated by a veterinarian team. no people were injured there. this is a live look at san
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moment. russia has been a major issue for president trump since before his inauguration day. tomorrow's summit will write a new chapter in the president's relationship with his russian rivals who could be either friend or foe. here's correspondent rich edson on that tonight. >> president trump entered office promising a better productive relationship with the largest country in the world. >> if putin likes donald trump, i consider that an asset not a liability because we have a horrible relationship with russia. russia can help us fight isis, which by the way is number one tricky. >> months later, then secretary of state rex tillerson traveled to moscow and established a working group with russia to resolve differences. >> we need to attempt to put an end to this steady degradation which is doing nothing to restore the trust between our two countries or to make progress on the issues of the greatest importance to both of us. >> the president even invited russian foreign minister lavrov to the oval office alarming democrats and republicans. last july, the president met putin at an international summit. he tweeted, quote, i strongly
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pressed president putin twice about russian meddling in our election. he vehemently denied it. i've already given my opinion. we negotiated a cease-fire in parts of syria which will save lives. now it's time to move forward in working constructively with russia. in congress bipartisan and veto proof majority supported a comprehensive sanctions law targeting russia and other adversaries. the president signed it. in response, russia expelled hundreds of american diplomats. the u.s. retaliated. also closing a russian consulate. the administration has implemented sanctions against dozens of russians, expelled even more russian diplomats and closed more facilities in response to russia's suspected involvement in the poisoning in england of a former russian spy and his daughter. unveiling what he called invincible weapons, putin showed a video of a russian missile hitting the u.s. the u.s. russia cease-fire in southwest syria has collapsed. and the special counsel has indicted a dozen russian intelligence agents for hacking the clinton campaign and
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democratic national committee. >> putin seeks to shatter nato. he aims to diminish the appeal of the western democratic model and attempts to undermine america's moral authority. his actions are designed not to challenge our arms at this point, but to undercut and compromise our belief in our ideals. >> and the president's outreach continues in helsinki and less than a month ago, he floated returning russia to the g-7. the group expelled russia for invading and seizing crimea, once a territory ukraine controlled. bill? bill: rich, thank you. rich edson in washington tonight. also in tonight's focus on faith, russia's treatment of religious people is a subject that many individuals are hoping to see addressed during the summit. they want progress on that front inside russia. religion correspondent lauren green has some specifics for us tonight. >> human rights activists want president trump to take a page out of president reagan's play book when he used a stop over in helsinki on his way to a summit
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in 88 with soviet leader gorbachev to press the issue of human rights. >> what are we to think of the continued suppression of those who wish to practice their religious beliefs? there remains no reason why the soviet union cannot release all people still in jail for expression of political or religious belief. >> but trump's critics fear human rights will get pushed to the side in the coming talks. >> could be quite unpredictable but so far president trump has made it quite clear that he doesn't really see any human rights problems in russia. that's very troubling. >> according to the u.s. state department, russia is currently holding more than 150 political and religious prisoners. last year the country outlawed the jehovah's witnesses religion and for the last few months rounded up 20 of them under the charge of extremism. a statement saying in part peaceful law-abiding citizens are being prosecuted as if they were terrorists simply for
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reading the bible, singing and praying with fellow worshippers. the state department will not say if trump will or will not raise the issue of human rights with putin, but stands by its statement released last month saying we call on russia to release all those identified as political or religious prisoners immediately. analysts say the overarching issue here is that human rights may just be a low priority. >> for this administration, religious freedom is important, but it is not a paramount concern when there are burning geopolitical issues such as syria, such as ukraine, arms control. >> analysts point out that political and religious prisoners tend to be pawns in negotiations. but activists are hoping that the state department's edict has more bite than bark. bill? bill: we shall see. lauren green, thank you. reporting in new york tonight. in a moment, the panel on what to expect from the summit. we will get to all three coming up. first though beyond our borders tonight, israel deploying iron
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dome antimissile defense near tel aviv after an escalation with gaza other the weekend. the israeli military has however lifted its restrictions along the gaza border indicating it's accepted an egypt mediated cease-fire that ended a 24 hour round of fighting with hamas. saturday the military carried out its largest wave of airstrikes in gaza since their war in 2014. hitting several hamas military compounds and flattening a number of its training camps. iraqis demanding better public services and jobs took to the streets for a sixth day in the southern oil rich province. authorities put security forces on high alert and blocked the internet and the country's shiite heart land. the protests coming as iraq waits for final results of a partial recount of a ballots from may's national elections before a new government can be formed in baghdad. pakistanis observing a day of mourning for the victims of this weekend's attacks during political campaigns that left 153 people dead.
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the largest attack killing 149 including an assembly candidate there. another suicide bombing struck an election campaign convoy in northwestern pakistan that killed four. and those are just some of the stories beyond our borders tonight. we are also coming to you from well beyond our u.s. border. "special report in helsinki" will continue right after this. whatever you do to stay healthy. you might be missing something. your eyes. that's why there's ocuvite. ocuvite helps replenish nutrients your eyes can lose as you age. it has lutein, zeaxanthin and omega-3. ocuvite. be good to your eyes.
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>> frankly don't expect -- i go in with very low expectations. >> he is looking at arms control. probably the most important issue we have here is non-proliferation. the two countries are 90% of the world's nuclear weapons. you have syria. you have north korea. you have ukraine addressing their malign activity and their election meddling. >> we know trump doesn't do a lot of prep work for these meetings. my fear is that putin could come in with maps of ukraine or maps of syria and try to cut some deal and frankly take advantage of this president. bill: that a little bit of a sample about from all sides really before this big meeting goes down here. want to bring in our panel tonight from washington former senior national council, fox news analyst and former spokeswoman at the state department and from los angeles former advisor to british prime minister david cameron and host of the next revolution here on
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the fox news channel. good evening to all three of you. appreciate your time especially on a sunday evening. we're getting a little more detail now about this specific timing for tomorrow. just now and just to let our viewers know and the three of you know, at 6:20 a.m. eastern time is when we expect putin and trump to come together for the first time. after that around 8:00 a.m., according to the schedule, so an hour and 40 minutes later, they will what they call a bilateral meeting there with other advisors. the first meeting by the way takes place with the two of them together. at 9:50 a.m. eastern time we will see a joint press conference on behalf of the two. that's the lay of the land tomorrow. to our viewers at home, chris wallace will have an exclusive interview with putin and president trump is talking to the channel that you will see in prime-time tomorrow night. we will have all kinds of reaction, guys. i think michael you can begin this. what is your, you know, knowing that you worked in the west wing, what is your expectation of tomorrow? >> well, you just played a clip of the president saying that his expectations are very low, and
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so are mine. i agree. this is the only second formal meeting these two presidents will have had, the last one about a year ago. the relation between the two countries have only gotten worse in the meantime. so just being together exchanging pleasantries, clearing the air, raising issues is probably about all you can hope for. if they get a personal relationship on track to improve things between the two countries, that would be about the most you can hope for. i don't expect to hear a lot of substance. maybe the most substance you will hear is these are the substantive things that we will talk about later or our staff and teams can talk about later but more than that i wouldn't expect. bill: we will put a marker in the ground on that one. what about you, marie? >>i'm looking how certain issues will be discussed, particularly in the press conference where we will get an idea on how these leaders want to spin this meeting publicly. i'm looking to see how they talk about syria, for example. there are reports that putin may want some ground bargain where the u.s. withdraws from syria.
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that would really leave iran and russia and assad with more room to maneuver in syria. we know president trump has talked about withdrawing, though. that's one issue i'm focused on. in terms of ukraine and eastern europe, there are some rumors particularly after the president's harsh rhetoric in nato that president trump may pull back from military exercises in some places like the baltics for example. i'm focused on those issues. more importantly, bill, putin has a way of dominating conversations particularly when there's not a set structured agenda. he has on a way on going about diatribes about russian history from his point of view. these meetings could go longer than that time frame you outlined. i will be looking for all of that and much more tomorrow as well. bill: all right. steve, what about you? >> well, i agree with a lot of that. i think there's one more thing i would add into the mix which is a lot of the conversation around this particularly from critics of president trump, has centered on the idea that, you know,
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putin's a strong one and he wrecked our democracy and donald trump is unprepared and doesn't know what he's doing and he's the weak side of this, it is important to remember that president putin himself has an agenda to try and increase russia's status in the world. he wants to get back into the g-8. he wants to be taken seriously. he has an incredibly weak economy. he wants russia to be great. therefore he will actually be looking, not just to have a strong personal relationship, but to find ways to offer something up, i think, so that he can improve russia's standing in the global community, and i think that's something you might see the beginnings of that in this meeting. bill: he did a few interviews in scotland over the weekend, and again on friday and thursday of last week, he was talking at every site he stopped on the nato and u.k. tour. this was his message, michael, from earlier today on twitter he sent this out heading to helsinki finland looking forward to meetings with president putin tomorrow. unfortunately, he writes, no matter how well i do at the summit, if i was given a great
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city of moscow as retribution for all the sins and evils committed by russia over the years, i would return to criticism that it wasn't good enough. thought i should have gotten st. petersburg in addition. much of our news media is indeed the enemy of the people and all the dems know how to do is resist and obstruct. this is why there's so much hatred and dissension in our country but at some point it will heal. that's a message to the people back home. >> first let me say in response to the notion that putin knows how to dominate a conversation and take it where it wants to go, i can assure everybody that donald trump knows how to do that too. you are going to have two very strong personalities in the room. i don't think either one is going to necessarily be able to get away with that and get the meeting to go 100% the way he wants it to go. one of the issues that could come out of this is we have seen a lot of indications that the russians very much want another arms control treaty. we negotiated one with russia in 2002 during the bush administration. the obama administration negotiated a follow on in 201. that's about to expire.
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this could be an easy way for the two countries to get together on something that really doesn't require either side to give that much to the other side and is good on balance for the relationship to reduce the number of operationally deployed nuclear weapons and get tensions down around the world without costing either side too much. it is one of the ways that the united states improved relations with the soviet union in the 70s. and we had nothing to talk about with the russians. we essentially came together and said look we can both agree that nuclear weapons are bad. let's see if we can get the numbers down and increase the peace in the world. that was accomplished. that might be achievable again here. bill: marie, would you take that? >> well, i would have to see the details of it. to your question just now about domestic politics, let's take a step back here. president trump since the announcement of indictments against 12 russian government officials has called the mueller investigation a witch hunt. he has blamed the democrats for getting hacked. he has called the press the enemy of the american people and called the european union a foe of the united states.
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so at home that may play well with his base, but there are a lot of people who genuinely believe that donald trump is working to undermine the western alliance, that he is more sympathetic to someone like putin than he is to nato given his world view that the relationships are really transactional and not based on values. so donald trump has domestic political reasons to show he's tough on russia interference in our election, but bill, i have no faith that he will actually -- he will actually raise that in a real way. bill: they all signed the communique coming out of nato. steve hilton i will come to you in a moment. i have a topic for you that you talk about every week on your show. that's the u.s. global presence under president trump. in a moment we will get to that topic. but more from behind the scenes here in helsinki. >> the finnish people have seen summits before certainly in 1990 in fact at the presidential palace george herbert walker bush and gorbachev were here
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together in helsinki. that was one month after saddam invaded kuwait. that was about a year before the collapse of the entire soviet empire. tomorrow presidents trump and putin will meet again at the presidential palace. after the break, our panel on u.s. foreign policy around the world. who says summer gets all the fun? not us. because southwest has $69 one-way sale fares for travel throughout september and october. so you can fill the rest of your year with amazing trips. from football games to reunions, or just a break from the office. these $69 one-way sale fares are ready to make your september and october a whole lot better. book now at southwest.com. low fares. no hidden fees. that's transfarency. send you on a journey to get to your bonus cash back. first they make you sign up for bonus cash back and it's only on a few categories. and when those categories change, you gotta sign up again. when does it end?!
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bill: now to the u.s. global stage and how things are going. back with our panel, michael, marie and steve. steve, when you reflect on nato of last week, from the u.k., you think about the communique that was signed at the end of the week, do you have any question as of the sense of unity that that block of countries goes into tomorrow's meeting with? >> not at all. i think that the central focus of what president trump is aiming to do, and i think succeeding on the world stage is changing america's strategic role in the world from the last few years from weakness to strength. that is the central idea. and you're seeing it in a number of ways. you saw it in relation to nato where for years president obama was badgering european partners to put more money into nato and didn't really happen and so now the president has done that in a strong way that you are seeing the results. you see on russia, where president obama did practically nothing when putin walked into crimea, when putin hacked our
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elections. now, where you see the trump administration stepping up the sanctions and importantly changing policy on energy which is a real threat to putin in a way that never happened before. you're seeing it with the most important issue of all, the biggest threat to america is not russian hacking. it is not russia. it is china. and on china, after decades of weakness and sucking up, you finally have a president that is standing up to china. what do his critics say? they criticize president trump for hitting china with sanctions. what that really shows is that the elitist attitude to president trump's foreign policy is intellectually incoherent. they just hate trump and criticize whatever he does. bill: that's pretty much what he said in his tweet a bit earlier that we read. michael, when you were at the nsc, i mean how do you look at these puzzle pieces as they are coming together on the global stage? >> well, the china point raises a good point. if you look out decades half a
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century, most analysts would say that a much greater long-term challenge to the united states is not russia. it is china. china poses a long-term challenge to russia too. similar to what the nixon administration did in the early 07s split russia and china to bring china more in the american directi direction. the problem that president trump has as much as he would like better relations with russia, russia has shown no appetite for wanting better relations with the united states. they have continued to irritate us in ways large and small throughout his administration and don't show any appetite for stopping. so it's difficult. i personally think that's not in russia's long-term interests. but i'm not the president of russia. and the president of russia apparently thinks it somehow is in his long-term interest or maybe he's just thinking short-term. that's the challenge that has to be overcome if this relationship is ever going to get better. bill: i would add to all of this the north korean threat. the president says there hasn't been a missile or rocket fired
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in nine months in north korea. there have been no nuclear tests and we got back our hostages. who knows how it will turn out in the end but why isn't the fake news talking about these wonderful facts because it is fake news. that to me sounds like an election issue, marie. if you keep north korea calm in the following sense that there are no more tests you can probably look back at singapore and call that a success. >> it will only be a success if there's a long-term deal for north korea to get rid of its nuclear weapons, which was the point of the summit. so the jury is still out on that. but i think what you are seeing is donald trump is fundamentally realigning american foreign policy away from values-based, interest-based alliances, away from multilateralism, towards really transactional foreign policy relationships, right? he got away from the transpacific partnership trade deal which i would argue lets china actually grow stronger in asia economically. he walked away from the paris accord. he walked away from the iran deal. he criticized nato, right?
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he doesn't seem to understand the value or appreciate the value of long-standing values and interests-based alliances and instead is really putting american foreign policy on a different footing. his supporters may love that. they may say why are we still supporting nato, south korea? but it is changing america's security and leadership in the world and that will have consequences for decades to come, bill. i believe that. bill: okay. marie, thank you for your input tonight. michael anton to you as well. steve hilton out there in l.a., have a great program. we will see you tonight in about two hours' time, 9:00 eastern. thank you all three. have a great sunday. >> thank you, bill. bill: some final thoughts from helsinki in a moment. woman: i stay active by staying in rhythm. and to keep up this pace, i drink boost optimum. boost optimum with 5 in 1 advanced nutrition helps support muscle, energy, bone, normal immune function, and vision. boost optimum. be up for life. with tripadvisor, finding your perfect hotel
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bill: finally tonight a reminder what's coming up tomorrow and tomorrow's going to be one busy day here in helsinki. presidents trump and putin, they will meet in about 11 hours shortly after 6:00 a.m. east coast time. they will hold another expanded meeting that will follow that. then they are scheduled to hold a joint news conference right around 9:50 a.m. that will be during america's newsroom. now, chris wallace will talk with president putin after all of that. and we will run the interview following that. and stay with fox news for coverage of all the summit activities and i will see you tomorrow torning at 9:00 a.m. -- tomorrow morning at 9:00 a.m. eastern time. a big long day tomorrow.
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bret is back tomorrow night at 6:00 eastern. good night for now from helsinki. have a great evening. bye-bye.

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