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he will sing for us if we give him a microphone, big crowd and astroturf. >> join us on friday. >> have a great day, see you tomorrow. >> bill: good morning. everybody. breaking news in the white house, president trump firing off many early morning messages and how he defends his meeting with vladimir putin fresh from helsinki helsinki. the group is back together. i'm bill hemmer on guitar live inside "america's newsroom." >> sandra: welcome. i'm sandra smith. a moment we don't often see from the president. trump admitting he misspoke when he characterized the summit. yesterday president trump making it clear he does indeed support the intelligence community. >> president trump: i have full faith and support for america's great intelligence agencies. always have. and i have felt very strongly that while russia's actions had
no impact at all on the outcome of the election, i accept our intelligence community's conclusion that russia's meddling in the 2016 election took place. >> bill: has the president changed his tune or clarified it? >> this morning the president is saying that the helsinki trip wasn't all bad because a bulk of the talk with putin actually happened away from reporters and behind closed doors. the president tweeted this morning first thing so many people at the higher ends of intelligence loved my press conference performance in helsinki. putin and i discussed many important subjects at our earlier meeting. we got along well, which truly bothered many haters who wanted to see a boxing match. big results will come. the president has been deliberately trying to explain why he didn't see any reason why russia would have interfered in the u.s. election.
that's what intel chiefs have told him and he is blaming and abbreviation for he says what a mix-up. >> president trump: in a key sentence in my remarks i said the word would instead of wouldn't. the sentence should have been i don't see any reason why i wouldn't, or why it wouldn't be russia. >> i just spoke to an administration official, once everybody got back to the white house yesterday the president gathered staff erd and looked at a transcript. the president apparently realized he misspoke and wanted to make that clarification. >> bill: what are they moving toward now today? >> they're trying to reframe the u.s./russia relationship in 2018 about things other than the u.s. election in 2016. >> there are so many different issues these two presidents addressed. they talked with north korea, iran, israel, syria, ukraine,
the middle east, nuclear proliferation. when the media talk about the supreme court they talk about abortion. when they talk about russia they talk about election meddling. >> 2 1/2 hours from now the entire trump cabinet is coming over for a meeting. if anyone has any questions they're about to have a chance to ask him. >> bill: peter doocy leading our coverage from the white house. thank you. >> sandra: we also have breaking news out of capitol hill this morning where the house is getting ready to vote on a resolution to support ice after a growing number of democrats have been calling to abolish the agency. meanwhile president trump saying it is just more evidence that the left wants open borders. >> president trump: the democrats are for open borders which means crime. you look at ms-13 is pouring in and we stop them better than anybody else could but when they get through. then we send ice. ice is tougher than they are. there is a move on to get rid
of ice because ice is tough. if you don't have tough people doing that job you'll have crime like you've never seen it. >> sandra: let's head to griff jenkins in washington >> bill: when a progressive democrat -- the last thing he expected was the republican controlled house would bring it to the floor for a vote until they did initially scheduling it for a day in an attempt to call democrats' -- then republican leaders scrapped the vote and will instead vote today on a non-binding resolution to support ice. applauding what the bill says is the brave men and women who enforce the nation's immigration laws and make sacrifices every day to secure our borders. republican clay higgins who authored the new resolution had this to say. >> it states what i believe most americans would concur
with. we support law enforcement, we support ice. we're a nation of sovereign borders. there is obviously what i believe to be dangerous language coming from the left. this latest call for the abolishment of ice is just more of the same. this is beyond the pale. this has reached a point of dangerous rhetoric. so i believe it called for a response. >> the strategy shift seemed to indicate that republicans worried about democrats to vote against their own bill and give them cover in a debate over the administration's immigration policies. today's vote, some call it a political stunt. >> what the republicans are doing is doing a gotcha votes. we won't let them do that. there are too many pressing issues we need to get on the floor of congress that this majority hasn't been able to get to the floor and we want to use any time we have to talk about the most pressing issues.
>> the house is expected to debate and vote this afternoon. not sure what time it will be, but clearly and from the comments you played from tucker's show last night it will be front and center in november. >> sandra: we'll certainly be watching all this. griff jenkins, thank you. we'll continue the conversation on both of these big stories with some great guests this morning. our headliner next hour florida senator marco rubio joins us and in the 11:00 a.m. hour we have congressman michael mccaul, chairman of the homeland security committee. stay tuned for all of that. >> bill: election, another big story this morning. four term congresswoman martha roby won the runoff in alabama coming off the heels of an endorsement from president trump. the president tweeted congratulations on her gop primary win for congress. my endorsement came late but when it came the floodgates opened and you have the kind of landslide victory you deserve,
enjoy. she expressed gratitude to the white house. >> yes, president trump's endorsement was certainly helpful and i appreciate the vice president's willingness to engage in this ways. >> bill: guy benson, how are you doing, guy? good morning to you. also co-host of "benson & harf". she was running against a former democrat. >> a former democrat. fairly conservative who switched parties, became a republican and ran against her arguing she had not been sufficiently pro-trump enough in her career. some of her criticisms of trump in the past became one of the issues of the campaign. she argued that she had a consistent conservative record. her opponent had voted for nancy pelosi when he was a member of the house of representatives as a democrat. and that argument won the day. it certainly helped as she just pointed out that president trump swaopd in at the 11th hour and endorsed her.
those were some of the dynamics. i also suspect, bill, that maybe some republican primary voters in alabama were a little bit wary about turning the keys over to someone who is not a relatively safe incumbent given what happened a number of months ago in the senate race down there. >> bill: interesting. 2-1 is pretty definitive outcome. did you see what james comey had to tweet after the finland deal? he said this republican congress has proven incapable of fulfilling the founders design. all who believe in this country's value must vote for democrats this fall. history has its eyes on us. policy differences don't matter now. i thought he was a republican. >> look, james comey, i'm not particularly interested in taking any political advice from him whatsoever. he is under investigation for improper handling or leaking of
classified materials. his top deputy has been referred for prosecution for lying. his beloved institution of the f.b.i. is under siege where the president i think sometimes unfairly demonizes or undermines the work of the f.b.i. and intelligence community arguing, trump do, it was run by a bunch of partisan hacks. what's the former leadership of the f.b.i. doing in this case? coming out and endorsing democrats in this overwrought tweet, self-righteous. if you care about america's values you must vote for the democrats. you know, bill, this has been driving me crazy the last few weeks. the deep state argument i think is often overblown significantly by some trump supporters and defenders, but it's almost as if the people who populated and led the supposed deep state are hell bent on vindicating the criticisms of them.
michael haden making an unseemly holocaust comparison on a controversial immigration policy. john brennan using the word treesonous way over the top and now jim comey endorsing the democrats. >> bill: a democrat also referred to this -- >> it's too much. it's too much and again, i think james comey should be focused on restoring the credibility of his institution that he loves so much, the f.b.i., which is under siege right now. and the worst thing he can do in order to try to restore that reputation as a down the line law enforcement agency that is not poisoned by politics. the worst thing he could do is come out with self-righteous partisan endorsement of the president's opponents but he has done it. >> bill: we have to get you tea and get you healthy.
we'll see how the middle feels about what happened. helsinki is seven hours ahead of east coast time and we work on deadlines every minute every hour of every day. seven doesn't divide well into 12 or 24 and we're doing the math all times. the other thing it's the midnight sun. the sunlight is out until midnight and comes out at 4:00 a.m. and factor it into coverage. the word surreal has been overused. but at the time i described to you it was quite an environment we'll never forget. give it a couple of days, process it, sometimes your first reaction is an overreaction. we'll get more reaction. >> sandra: we're happy you're back, welcome back. it is hard to forget moving on to this those horrifying chaos and screams after the shooting massacre that occurred in las vegas last year.
next a growing outrage after the owner of the casino hotel the gunman used as a sniper's nest decides to actually sue the victims. >> bill: a woman on a bike pedaling past the warning gates on a draw bridge and a video showing what happened to her next. >> sandra: president trump taking on john brennan after the former c.i.a. chief called helsinki's comments treasonous. rand paul is up next. >> president trump: these are people are bad people and they're being exposed for what they are. and it's a shame that it has to happen but it's really hurt our country. ♪ motorcycle revving ♪motorcycle revving ♪ motorcycle revving ♪ no matter who rides point,
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used the term this is nothing short of treasonous. he is giving aid and comfort to the enemy and a betrayal of the nations. >> bill: john brennan, a lot of reaction on that blasting the president's trip with vladimir putin. president firing back in an interview with tucker carlson last night to john brennan and others. >> president trump: brennan is a very bad guy. if you look at it, a lot of things happened under his watch. i think he is a very bad person. i also think that when you watch peter strzok and lisa page, when you watch all of the things that have happened and comey, take a look at that and mccabe, who has some pretty big problems, i assume. you look at the deception, the lies. they are being exposed for what they are. and it is a shame that it has to happen but it's really hurt our country. >> bill: senator rand paul. good day to you. i say you monday afternoon from helsinki talking to cnn. that was a fire work in itself. what do you think about what
john brennan is doing right now? let's start there. >> john brennan started out his adulthood by voting for the communist party presidential candidate and showing himself to be the most bias, bigoted, hyperbolic unhinged director of the c.i.a. that we've ever had. to call the president treasonous because he doesn't like him. i fill bus terd brennan. i tried to keep him from being the leader of the c.i.a. but realize that brennan and clapper are known for wanting to expand the authority of the intelligence agencies to grab up everyone's information including american's and so i don't have a lot of respect for these people before they decided to go on hating the president. i dislike these people because they wanted to grab up so much power and use it against the american people. >> bill: you characterized it very well the other day.
you said if you've been investigated for a year and a half -- that was the president's percent effective on monday. the tweed. some people hate the fact that i got along well with russia. it is called trump derangement symptom. you diagnosed that, did you? >> i've told people the best way to look at this. reagan called out the soviet empire for being the evil empire, tear down the wall but reagan did sit down with goesh khofsh and i guess he doesn't call him an evil tyrant or storm around and shake his fist in their face-to-face meetings. we reduced nuclear weapons, reduced the threat of nuke area war. i think that trump responding at times with, you know, bold rhetoric against some of the foreign leaders and against north korea but sitting down with them is in the mold of
what reagan did. some people are deranged with trump and that's why they're crazy. >> bill: so much of the issue comes back to him and tries to sell it. he is saying, i want it, get over it, don't try to take it away from me on illegal grounds. he has to say it that way. if he doesn't say it that way people don't know where he is coming from. i think that's what happened on monday. >> the president sees the mueller investigation, all these accusations from partisan democrats, hillary clinton saying oh, he colluded with the russians but then he also sees that the only people who actually we know colluded with the russians were hillary clinton who paid a british agent who paid russians for information for the dossier. he feels like the intelligence community cooked up a political or partisan investigation. but also part of the mueller investigation is something that should have investigated. who hacked into hillary clinton's emails. he sees the part where he is accused of collusion and he
responds to that and it taints the whole investigation. there is part of the mueller investigation that is legitimate and part of it that is a partisan attack on the president. >> bill: you will talk to mike pompeo in a hearing next week. i don't think mike pompeo should wait until next week the talk. he was in the bilateral meeting. we still do not have a good idea what happened in those meetings. why not come out and talk today? >> i think that we will hear more over time. i plan on talking to the president in the next week or two by going to the white house and talking to him about the meeting in helsinki and i think they will begin to talk more about it. but realize that the beginning of diplomacy isn't always splashed across the front pages. sometimes diplomacy goes on for a year, two years at a time until we finally get a breakthrough that can be made public. >> bill: thank you for your time. hope you come back soon. rand paul, the republican from kentucky on the hill. >> sandra: still ahead the young soccer team rescued from a flooded cave in thailand make
their first public appearance since leaving the hospital. we'll tell you how they're doing. plus a social media hearing on capitol hill turns into a partisan show. we'll dig into that one next. >> the majority would have us believe this conspiracy theory about anti-conservative bias despite the fact the republican party controls all of our federal government. who would have thought,
oh my. the mind reels. >> sandra: i've watched it a couple times. thankfully she will be all right. >> bill: wow. >> sandra: on capitol hill a house judiciary committee hearing on monitoring social media content. breaking out into partisan spats with both democrats and gop leaders making highly political accusations yesterday. watch. >> google has also deleted or blocked references to jesus, chick-fil-a and the catholic religion. what will it stop? >> let's make something very clear. there is no evidence that the algorithms of social networks or search results are biased against conservatives. >> sandra: let's bring in congressman andy biggs. thanks for your time this morning. what is happening here? in your view, is there censorship of conservatives when it comes to social media companies? >> i think there is and ample
evidence. western journal was growing and the algorithms changed and the flow of visitor traffic is put to nothing. i think of marsha blackburn who has had to have her website taken down because the purveyors of social media said she had -- we have hate speech against conservatives out there and that is allowed to stay up until we take extraordinary measures and make contact after contact in the case that matt gates pointed out. we see this happening and these purveyors acknowledge they have algorithm challenges and they
sometimes aren't acting quick enough. >> sandra: one example of that. bob goodlatte brought this up in the beginning of the hearing noting how facebook recently as we all learned censored quotes of the declaration of independence. one of the social media companies flagged them as hate speech. obviously identifying there is a problem here. he said these platforms need to do a better job of explaining how they make these decisions or perhaps explaining the algorithms that you are mentioning. do they? >> i think they do. and i think what we're doing is the right approach to this by putting public pressure on this. as we shine the light of day on this we do see the social media companies, they want to respond because their constituencies includes a significant portion of people on the sites are concerned and concerned. we have to keep putting
pressure on this way. the other way is to do it, to regulate them, that's not good for conservatives as well. >> sandra: one said the hearing was based on pure fantasy the democrat said and that it should be focusing on the crisis caused yesterday by donald trump. democrats wanted to move on and talk about the words of the president in helsinki. congressman, next i want to ask you about republicans. they want the i.g. to look into rod rosenstein over these alleged threats to congressional staffers. what are you learning about that? >> well, we know what happened, or what has been asserted as happened and i think it to be true. staffers were kind of intimidated that they would be investigated, their phones would be seized and looked at if they continued to press for the release of documents, some of which we've asked for over a year ago now. thousands of documents.
and so mr. rosenstein and his staff took umbrage at our staff putting pressure saying look, we've been waiting for this long enough. give us the documents. and so he says it didn't happen. our witnesses say it did happen. i think the inspector general needs to really look at this because if that's the case, that kind of threatening, intimidation is the type of bullying we just can't allow from our law enforcement people. >> sandra: congressman andy biggs. thank you for coming on this morning. great to have you on the program. >> bill: 9:29. fox news alert. growing outrage after mgm sues the victims of the most deadly mass shooting in u.s. history. what is behind this lawsuit? >> sandra: republicans say they aren't finished with tax reform. why the party is now developing a second bill. >> remember when not long ago the economy was sluggish. paychecks going nowhere and all
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you are talking about millions of americans having bonuses or raises or both. you are talking about unemployment rate that's under 4% and gdp that is at or above in the future will be at or above 4%. >> sandra: let's bring in maria bartiromo. anchor of sunday morning futures. pop up the dow if you can. four minutes into trading. down a couple points. sharply unchanged at this moment as i used to say. nonetheless we have been seeing records in the u.s. stock market. the nasdaq surged to another record yesterday. some of these individual technology names making all-time highs, facebook, google, etc. the market shrugs off big concerns. >> i think the market is giving this administration the benefit of the doubt when it comes to tariffs on trade. when i speak with market watchers they say well, president trump is in negotiation mode. right now they aren't as worried about the impact of
tariffs and trade disputes happening because they think that at the end of the day the u.s. will get a better deal because the president is in negotiation mode. you mentioned the markets this year and last year. obviously the tax plan had a lot to do with the big gains we saw last year. >> sandra: now tax reform 2.0. they'll vote on the tax cuts in september. politically it could have huge implications but huge implications as well for the american family. >> one of the biggest centerpieces of this plan as you heard kevin brady say was making the individual tax cuts permanent. one of the issues here is that they are afraid that new people come in and if the democrats do take control of the house they will reverse this and they will actually make taxes go up for individuals. so what the house ways and means committee wants to do and president trump wants to do is make sure the cuts put into place the beginning of this year are permanent. the way the corporate tax cuts are permanent. that's one of the centerpieces
of this plan. the other big issue is what president trump told me two weeks ago. we are considering lowering the corporate from 21% to 20%. we know what the corporate cut did to the economy. it was very positive. >> sandra: he originally targeted a lower corporate. he settled on 21%. interesting to see it come down. you talk about the impact the 21%, the drop to 21% had. what does it do to american businesses if we see it drop even further? >> i don't think it's a material difference, 21 to 20%. it's the number they wanted initially and couldn't get there. at the end of the day the big issue, how do you pay for this? deficits that have doubled according to the white house late yesterday we get the announcements or friday that deficit projections are double what they were. that has more to do with the spending that we're seeing out of this government as opposed to the tax cuts. make no mistake, 35% to 21% or
20% is a huge deal for business. and that's why you've actually seen animal spirits businesses investing in their people and r & d and that will likely continue if we see a further cut. >> sandra: it will be fascinating to watch. possible tax reform 2.0. vote coming in september and then this news. google has been find $5 billion from the e.u. and told to alter the android model. they say they've used it as a dominance of its search engine. >> sandra: i don't know if it's using it as dominance to get market share but google owns the android phone. they can put whatever it wants on that phone and what the e.u. is saying they're putting all these services and new apps on there which are icing out competitors in terms of having those apps on the android phone. it sort of feels to me like it
did in the early 90s when microsoft was the big target and they were getting fined by the e.u. and u.s. when you get bigger, larger and larger you become a bigger target to the government. that's one issue. >> sandra: in researching this google has a market share of more than 90% for general internet search. we all use it. when you don't know something you google it. >> 90% doesn't sit well with antitrust regulators. >> they make a lot of money. they might be able to pay for that. maria bartiromo. thank you. >> bill: senator marco rubio weighing in on the president's clarification after helsinki and whether the u.s. is still vulnerable to meddling. >> what matters is what we do moving forward. 2016 is in the hands of this committee's work and what mueller is doing. 2018 is around the corner. our job is to make sure what happened in 2016 doesn't happen
in 2018. >> bill: it is today's headliner at 10:00 a.m. eastern time. 22 minutes away live on "america's newsroom." another alert. mgm resorts filing a lawsuit against people you wouldn't expect. they'll go to court over the survivors and families of the victims who were killed in the biggest mass shooting last october. the company is not seeking money. william la jeunesse is live in l.a. to sort through this one. what's up? >> this is really about where any claim against mgm is hurt. in federal court seemed to favor the hotel or state court which would likely favor the victims. mgm is doing what any smart company would. coming up to shield itself from liability arising from the mass shooting where the gunman entered the hotel with massive fire power and killed 58 victims. however, mgm is getting hammered in the court of public opinion saying 1,000 victims are entitled to nothing claiming a federal law passed
after 9/11 known as the safety act precludes any finding of liability against mgm for any claim for injuries arising out of or related to paddock's mass attack and the plaintiffs have no liability of any kind to the defendants. why? well, mgm says that the concert security vendor was certified by the department of homeland security against terrorism or acts of mass injuries. therefore, mgm has no liability. but lawyers for the victims say the f.b.i. never classified the vegas shooting as a terrorist act because the gunman had no clear motive. that mgm is unethical and judge shopping. >> it wasn't meant to provide immunity for a hotel casino who had woefully inefficient security process. all the bells and whistles going off that they didn't catch. >> so far 250 victims have
filed against mgm claiming the hotel, not the concert, failed to provide adequate security, was negligent in stopping the attack. mgm faces hundreds of millions in losses should it lose. >> bill: interesting twist. thank you, william la jeunesse. >> sandra: there are new developments on the case of an american pastor fighting for his freedom after being detained in turkey on terrorism charges. the latest on his case after a hearing today. >> bill: reporters, columnists are hammering the president after helsinki. is the media taking this too far? howard kurtz has looked at it and will analyze it coming up next. >> the attacks on trump, this overwrought hysterical insane attack by the media, the democrats, some in the republican party and phony conservatives. you're led to question a president, just don't go nuts. ♪
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appearing at a press conference this morning. it was their first chance to address the media following their two-week ordeal. reporters, classmates there to cheer the team on as they made their entrance. doctors say the 12 boys and their coach are all healthy. they say the boys have each gained nearly seven pounds since their rescue. more on this amazing story later in our show. >> bill: amazing indeed. >> sandra: so happy to hear they're healthy and eating again, in good spirits. >> bill: you don't usually lose pound when you are 14 years old. they look great and a lot of happiness in thailand again today. >> comparing the president's conference with putin to pearl harbor, the beginning of the holocaust, calling him a traitor, treasonous, two weeks ago they said he was running japanese internment camps, this is the pseudomedia. all this hysteria. the fact of the matter is trump
hasn't done a thing to harm america. >> bill: howard kurtz is a fox news media analyst folks on media buzz on sundays. good morning to you. you've been watching and listening and reading the incoming back and forth. what do you think right now about the do over from yesterday afternoon? >> well, first of all, bill, the media are largely rejecting it and mocking the president's attempts at a clarification likening it to as hostage video. it's leaks from insiders. we have seen this before undercutting the president. "washington post" reporting that he ignored most of 100 pages of briefing material saying to be tough on vladimir putin. axios quoting former officials on helsinki need a shower, another one said dude, this is a blanking disgrace. they are being disloyal but also frustrated in the president and what some of them
called defiance disorder blew past their advice. it's when everybody on the president's staff says don't do this, you have to be tough on putin. don't stand up there. we saw it after charlottesville. the said i'm president and say what i want and he often excels at saying what he wants. sometimes when he says what he wants -- >> bill: how much do you think was based on the answers the reporters didn't get it. rod rosenstein getting the answers he was expecting. republicans on the hill not getting the answer they were expecting. >> there was a great expectation in the media and political world that in light of the indictments of the 12 russian military officers the president would strike a more aggressive tone but equating the intelligence agencies from the strong denial about president putin. a lot of talk in the press
about traitor and treasonous, taken out and shot, the analogies to pearl harbor and so forth. it is a pattern i've observed. when the president makes a mistake or says something he will go to a 10. the press goes to 11, 13 and it convinces many trump supporters that gunning for the guy. never gets the benefit of the doubt. it can be an overreaction, which is not to say he doesn't deserve criticism for what happened in helsinki. >> bill: you would say the first reaction can be an overreaction. do you think this was an overreaction or do you think the reaction was appropriate in realtime? >> on the substance of it i think the reaction was perfectly appropriate and understandable. here is the difference in this case. when the president says fake news. in this particular instance you have a number of conservative outlets and commentators being highly critical how he handled vladimir putin. you have the "wall street journal" editorial page saying
a personal and national embarrassment. hosts and commentators being strongly critical of what the president did. newt gingrich, worst mistake of his presidency. what trump did, this cuts across the usual left/right or pro trump, anti-trump line and that's why there has been so much intensity. >> bill: we don't know what happened in the private meetings. if there was movement on things like north korea we want to know. >> sure, the session with putin was more than just the press conference. the press conference is the public stage, the glare of the spotlight. that's all we have to go on. it may turn out that the summit will indicate more progress than we might have expected but now you even have "the new york times" saying well, this raises the question what does putin have on trump. there is no evidence of that but it made it into the mainstream conversation.
>> bill: i saw on the "today" show in southeastern wisconsin, trump supporters that flipped from blue to red in 2016 they were 100% behind him. they hear it in ways the media do not hear and i think that's something we really have to keep in mind. howard kurtz, thank you so much live in d.c. >> sandra: new york's self-proclaimed socialist democratic candidate stirring up more controversy with her interviews. >> we won't win if we don't stand for anything. we need to occupy every airport and border. we need to occupy every ice office until those kids are back with their parents. >> sandra: now why top members of her own party are starting to come out against alexandria ocasio-cortez. >> bill: today a turkish court ruling an american pastor will not be released. more on this breaking development from overseas coming up next. >> president trump: we have pastor brunson, a wonderful
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>> sandra: an american pastor being held in turkey on charges of terrorism is ruled to remain in prison following a hearing earlier today. his next trial date will be in october. if found guilty he could face up to 35 years in prison. the case is fueling tensions between washington and ankara. lauren green joins us from new york city. >> the third hearing for the pastor is now over. despite some indications he could be released, that is not happening. he has been remanded behind bars and a new court date is
set for october 12. the 50-year-old is charged with espionage. supporter say it's a sham case. he just a political pawn. he is a north carolina native who lived in turkey for more than two decades has been jailed since october of 2016 rounded up after a failed coup attempt in turkey alleged to have links. they called several prosecution witnesses to prove their case. defense witnesses testified for the first time today. meantime brun son's legal team in the u.s. says he is dismayed but encouraged by the worldwide support. >> pastor brunson obviously is discouraged because he is an innocent u.s. citizen who has been held by a nato ally for over a year and a half, almost
650 days. >> last week senator lindsey graham who has met -- >> i don't think he would let us see pastor brunson if they weren't looking for a way to end this. we need to get this issue behind us. >> there is still more ahead. back to you. >> sandra: lauren green, thank you. >> bill: back to our top story of the day. president trump clarifying his comments after helsinki and senator marco rubio is our headliner today. he is in the hot seat at the top of the hour. come on back. they taste like victory because he always gets the lowest price on our rooms, guaranteed, when he books direct at choicehotels.com. or just say badda book, badda boom. book now at choicehotels.com. or just say badda book, badda boom. touch shows how we really feel. but does psoriasis ever get in the way?
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huh. >> sandra: it's the walk back to remember. welcome to a brand-new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm sandra smith. >> bill: i'm bill hemmer. good to be back. president returning home to a firestorm of critics hoping to settle the dust. >> president trump: i have full faith and support for america's great intelligence agencies. always have. and i have felt very strongly that while russia's actions had no impact at all on the outcome of the election, i accept our intelligence community's conclusion that russia's meddling in the 2016 election took place.
in a key sentence in my remarks i said the word would instead of wouldn't. the sentence should have been i don't see any reason why it wouldn't be russians. >> sandra: all right. that was the president there and we want to bring in our headliner now senator marco rubio of florida, the member of the foreign relations committee joins us now. thank you for coming back to the program this morning. as we started the hour, we said a walk back to remember. what is your thoughts this morning as you look on at the last couple days? >> well, i'm glad the president said that yesterday because the meeting in helsinki left an impression that he was siding with vladimir putin's assessment over that of the intelligence community. i want to reiterate what i've said all along. i don't think vladimir putin interfered in our election, i know he did. i think his primary objective was not the election of one candidate over another but the primary objective was to weaken the next president of the united states by thrusting them
into controversy. no matter who would have won the election they would have faced two years of russian-inspired controversy as we've seen over the last year half in issue has become dominant. we need to understand and punish what he did in 2016 and hold accountable anybody who helped him do it but harden our election infrastructure and what russia does and by putting in place the deter act, a bipartisan law i offered a few months ago that i hope we can pass which will require specific and significant sanctions if he does this again. >> sandra: is this president tough on russia? is he as tough as you want him to be based on what you just said? >> as i said i wish what he said yesterday would have been said in helsinki because it would never have had this sort of notion that he was siding with putin against the u.s. intelligence community. but i also -- it's important to point to policy. this president has provided and
this administration has provided lethal weapons to ukraine to protect itself from russia. they've imposed sanctions that in many cases go beyond what congress had asked for. so the actions have been strong. i'm a strong supporter of nato. i think that's something we need to recommit ourselves to but in some instances this administration's policies have been stronger than the previous administration when it comes to russia and more forward leaning. >> bill: tucker karlsson had an interviewed that aired last night. there was a question about are they an enemy, foe, adversary, competitor, all that built up to helsinki. here is how he explained it last night. >> president trump: getting along with russia and not only for that reason is a good thing, not a bad thing. they're a strong military but their economy is much smaller than china. and i don't want to use the word adversary. we can all work together and do great. everybody can do well and we can live in peace.
>> bill: react to -- fold that into the tweet of earlier today. some people hate the fact that i got along well with president putin of russia. they would rather go to war rather than see it as trump derangement system. how much of that is part of the argument we're having? >> we have to judge vladimir putin. it's important for a moment to talk about the russian federation and russian people are two separate things. people in russia support what putin does and many don't. a lot of them wind up dead. a lot of his enemies wind up dead as mr. wallace pointed out in his interview a couple days ago which was a remarkable interview. to go back for a moment. china on the world stage is a bigger threat because of the economy and the effort to replace us. russia is a significant adversary under vladimir putin. there is nothing wrong with wanting a better relationship with russia. the priels for a better relationship cannot be to overlook or allow vladimir
putin to continue his hostilities against the united states. >> bill: here is my impression in finland. i think people in the room where wanting and expecting a certain reaction. it was almost as if they were looking for a tear down this wall moment. and i didn't think that would happen one-on-one. you mention chris wallace's interview with putin. for american people to understand what happened in finland they have to watch wallace's interview. if you listen to putin words when he denies the dossier, the spying, it is hard to get a yes/no answer out of putin. everything has this circular sort of nuanced response. when you watch the putin interview and wallace that press conference makes sense. >> two things make sense, too. talking about putin and kgb. you can't ignore that's what he did for 25 years. >> bill: he ran the secret
police after the soviet union fell in the 1990s. >> he was trained and made a living by fooling and deceiving westerners. that's what he does. that's what he is good at and what he continues to do. the second point i would make he never had an interview like that in russia. do you think any journalist in russia could ask him the questions that wallace asked him the other day? he doesn't answer to anybody. i would point to one more thing he said in the interview. he denied the interference but spent most of the time arguing the hacked emails from the clinton campaign were not fake but real. someone just ex posed the truth and the american people passed judgment on that truth. he doesn't care if we know. he will never admit it. he doesn't care if we know he interfered. it makes him feel and look powerful and on par with the president and the united states. which is his overriding goal here is to reposition russia as a global power on par with the united states. he can't do that economically. >> sandra: isn't it also important, senator, to look
back and give some perspective of president trump's predecessors and their handling of russia and its leaders and you look back at that moment. president barack obama sitting down with-out going russian president and what he told him he would be able to do post election. here is that moment. bring this into the conversation. >> after my election i have more flexibility. >> sandra: of course, that was the president saying this is my last election. after my election i have more flexibility. >> i remember take that moment well and criticized it. when the president says mistakes have been made with russia he is right. thinking that we could -- not fully understanding who vladimir putin truly was. i fear that's the potential that -- i don't think that's where we're headed but we could
if we continue under this idea if we're nice to vladimir putin and try to get along with him personally everything else will work out. he is not interested in a win/win relationship with the u.s. vladimir putin believes that the only way to make russia stronger is to make america weaker. as long as he believes that and as long as that's the way he operates it is almost impossible to have better relations. we have to have relations and we have to be able to talk because there are other issues. he has nuclear weapons as the president points out. 90% are controlled by the u.s. and russia. we have to talk to him but do so with a clear understand what motivates him, who he is, what he has done in the past and what he will do in the future. other administrations thought they could reset things with him and -- >> bill: take the u.s. interpreter from the one-on-one meeting on monday and have the person testify in front of your committee. i'm calling for a hearing with
the interpreter of the meeting with the president's meeting with putin. would you support that? would that be enlightening? >> i would love to know what they discussed privately. wouldn't we all? we'll see what it was by the policy proposals that emerge. the practical problems with that is number one, they deserve a certain privilege. that's the first thing. and i think they would be able to do that. the second is if you did that, no one would ever serve as an interpreter in the future. so i want to know what was said. i think we'll learn more about that. i think the administration owes us an answer on that. i really do. people on the intelligence committee and on foreign relations, we need to know if any agreements have been made. i don't think bringing in the interpreter is the right way to get the answer. >> sandra: newt gingrich, one of the president's long-time supporters said this press conference was the most serious
mistake of president trump's presidency. i just wonder you've already given us your take on the clarification and the comments that he made in helsinki. what are the implications of this moment for your party? >> well, i don't know about for the party. i haven't analyzed it politically. i think when it comes to issues of national security and foreign policy those things to the extent possible be above our politics. i would analyze it in terms of i think that was not a good moment for a administration. i think that's one of the things that contributed to what you saw yesterday. i think it's important that the president of the united states be strong and firm in support of the u.s. intelligence community and i think it's important our public policies be built on reality. not wishful thinking. the reality is vladimir putin believes the only way he can be strong is making us weak. i don't care what he says in a private meeting or what he says publicly. that's the way he has behaved. the last point i would make is he has never. in his time in power, he has never walked away from an opportunity to exploit weakness. and anything that shows him
weakness is an invitation to aggression be it interfering in elections, syria, ukraine or anywhere else. that's what we have to keep in mind. >> bill: pushback is so important with this guy. the deter act to amp up sanctions could have an impact. did you hear president obama yesterday in south africa 100th anniversary of president mandela's birthday? he keyed off on what he considers lies and deception at the highest level when it comes to policy in d.c. here it is, watch. >> people just make stuff up. they just make stuff up. we see it in the growth of state-sponsored propaganda. we see the utter loss of shame among political leaders where they are caught in a lie and they just double down and they lie some more. >> bill: what do you think of that, senator? >> i'm anti-lying whether by republicans or democrats. if we want to get into a tait
-- tit-for-tat. i have problems with the obama administration's -- there is a truth and that is that in american politics today there is a lot of people out there saying things that aren't factual because people have lost trust in our institutions, they just have. they've lost trust in the media and in political parties and in experts on subject matters. that's a huge problem in our society at large beyond our politics. but it most certainly is having an influence on politics and we're all to blame for it. both political parties and people outside of politics have contributed to that. >> sandra: it's interesting to continue the watch the political fallout and reaction to all this this morning. great to get your take, senator rubio. your colleague, bob corker, had some pretty strong words to say about where this week puts vladimir putin back on the
world stage. watch this. >> what happened at this press conference gave an indication that all of a sudden we were approving of his actions and we were putting him back on the world stage with our approval when europe has hung together pushing back against him. we should hang with them. >> sandra: did the u.s. put putin back on the world stage? >> a couple things on that. the first is, i'm glad the president said what he said yesterday and i'm glad because the impression he left the day before was that we were okay or that he didn't even believe some of our intelligence agencies. it was important that he did that. i wish he would have said it in helsinki. that said, bottom line with vladimir putin is that is his goal to be back on the world stage. what matters moving forward is what we do. not just what we say but what we do. different from russia, he is a dictator. we have a congress who has a chance to do things like the
deter act, like build up our military and recommit to nato. >> bill: i want to get one last answer out of you. your democratic colleagues, some of them are right now trying to abolish ice. i don't know if you think that's a good idea or not. you have an election in four months' time. when you fold that into the reaction from helsinki two days ago where do you think that issue here at home with regard immigration and this part of the federal government is, senator? >> that's a radical and dumb idea rejected by the vast majority of americans. people can disagree about immigration policy. we have to have immigration laws and enforced and ice does a lot more than just immigration enforcement. a few weeks ago we saw ice trying to execute on a law to go after a trafficking group and protestors are out there disrupting their ability to go after human traffickers. ice is a lot more than immigration reform. if you don't like our immigration laws, you can change the law.
they enforce the law that congress passed and is on the books and should do so in a responsible way. abolishing ice is a ridiculous and dangerous idea. >> bill: it could hurt them in november. >> i believe it will. >> bill: the conversation of ice. house homeland security chair mcdermott kaul is coming up. >> sandra: the democratic party leaving further to the left as a socialist knocks a top democrat from the ballot. she is stirring more controversy with some of her interviews. why former democratic senator joe liberman says the upstart candidate is bad for america. our "america's newsroom" a-team is here to take that one up. managing blood sugar is a series of smart choices.
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fixing problems. let's bring out america's a-team. capri cafaro, david asman and shelby holliday. >> battle inside the left. many of my democratic colleagues would say joe lieberman later in life became an independent. he is not necessarily the stalwart of the democratic party. from ohio, this woman in bronx, brooklyn, >> bill: queens. >> in the five burroughs there was a push for the bernie sanders part of the party that latched on. i think number one this person may reflect somewhat of her district but number two she is not reflective of democrats at
large. and i think -- >> sandra: david is chomping. >> there is nothing that the democratic party stands for. >> the chairman of the dnc calls her the future of the democratic part, tom perez calls her the future. is he totally wrong? >> yeah. i'm not a fan of tom perez. i was for the guy that was the mayor of south bend, indiana. we need to move the democrats back to mainstream. >> the problem with joe lieberman's thesis. joe crowley the person she dethroned he should run. he doesn't have a chance. he does not have a chance. joe crowley led to ocasio-cortez. it was joe crowley, nancy pelosi, chuck schumer, all the democratic party that moved so far to the left over the past
10 years it is beyond obama. obama pushed them further to the left in terms of growing the government, shrinking the private sector through overregulation and high taxation. our economy was stuck in the mud for years under president obama and it was only after the private sector was released that it began to grow. the choice that you have, if you have an obama -- so-called mainstream democrats in charge is that the economy doesn't grow and people think well, maybe we'll get socialism a try. it was the crowleys that led to this. >> bill: what does shelby think. >> the person who support her won't be persuade i had. 30% of the young people support socialism. harvard polls are showing numbers that are shocking. those people who kind behind ocasio-cortez, they do not care what somebody like joe
lieberman says and i also think this is a problem for the democratic party because when you look at the 2016 election there were a lot of republicans who voted for trump even though they didn't love him because they were worried how far left the democratic party was shifting in large part to bernie sanders, the same brand of democrat that she is. >> sandra: why does she keep giving all the interviews? she is out. >> she is 28 years old. a year ago she was a bartender. she is in love with the publicity. frankly, anybody would be. vanity is the favorite sin of the devil. everybody who gets that much attention who is young enough -- >> that's not why you enter public service, though. >> that's the lure that one is enchanted by when you're in it. >> sandra: this interview stirring up some controversy. >> we have to occupy all of it. we need to occupy every
airport, we need to occupy every border. we need to occupy every ice office until those kids are back with their parents period. >> bill: how will that sell in south bend? >> look, i just actively rolled my eyes. here is the thing again. democrats -- there are certainly things like separating families at the border that we have an argument to be made there. when you go 15 steps further and say we need to occupy everything. what does it mean? we're focused on ice. it's customs and border patrol that has that function. >> bill: you are a moderate democrat and it makes your job more difficult. >> i also saw there was a study by the democracy project that was actually put out by both the biden foundation and bush foundation which speaks to this. a growing number of millennials don't value living in our society. >> the abolishing ice themes and the other themes she has to
the left that follows to my original point from the mainstream democratic party leadership supporting the sanctuary cities movement. where do you go from there except -- they are pushing the train so far in one direction you will are record at the border. >> so many democrats running now are trying to distance themselves from nancy pelosi. >> sandra: we'll have you back. new reaction to the president's clarifications on his comments about russian meddling. >> i think that trump responding at times with, you know, bold rhetoric against some of these foreign leaders really is in the mold of what reagan did. most of these people are deranged with trump and why i think they're crazy. >> sandra: rand paul last hour. the a-team takes on the president's back pedaling next. >> bill: google getting slammed
>> sandra: president trump clarifying his comments from the summit in helsinki saying he accepts the conclusion of u.s. intelligence officials that russia interfered in the 2016 election. moments ago we got new reaction from our headliner senator marco rubio. >> i don't think vladimir putin interfered in our elections, i know he did. and i think his primary objective was not the election of one candidate over another but to weaken the next president of the united states by thrusting them into controversy. no matter who would have won the election they would have been facing two years of russian-inspired controversy. >> sandra: our "america's newsroom" a-team is back with us now. capri cafaro, david asman, shelby holliday. david, you first. >> i think the president's
excuse it was just one word wasn't really adequate. obviously it was the whole tone of the conversation that was what was objectionable. trump supporters don't care. they've seen the pile-ons on trump. you don't follow them because they usually follows something he says that may be off rather than follow his actions which seem to be working whether domestic or foreign policy. the american people get it. the rhetoric is the kind of the b.s. stuff you don't really pay attention to. they look at the actions. >> bill: if you ignore this story you'll miss it again when it happens again. i was referring to the nbc report this morning about the trump supporters. they are all in on it. >> trump supporters like his tough talk. they like he goes and shakes up nato. they like that he is demanding
change and promoting america's values. it is very strange to go see him stand next to vladimir putin and the tough talk is absent and part of trump's base that are pro law enforcement. law and order. members of the law enforcement community are split over this. they don't necessarily think it is wise of trump to cast out on the intelligence agencies. that walk back yesterday didn't address a lot of other controversial comments he made standing next to vladimir putin. >> i think it's nuance. i don't think his entire base -- >> this isn't about the base or politics. this is about america and what it means to be american. this is about the future of a democracy and basically what is happening in the post 20th century post world war ii alliances that we've grown to rely upon as the reality and norm to create peace, prosperity and stability across the globe. >> bill: you understand the
perspective he is coming from. i'm a businessman. don't take away the greatest accomplishment. you guys are beating me up for intel for a year and a half. i don't believe it and try it and you're still trying to take me down. that's where he is coming from. if he said it like that, repeatedly, we might have a different perspective. >> also you weigh what he said and the pushback what he said. the charges of treason. what happened in 2012 when president obama leaned over and whisper to the russians we have your back and following that 2012 meeting, russia invaded crimea, they defied all of these missile defense things and turned syria into a satellite of russia. the bottom line is that for all the talk that the president was making back then, president obama was making, the actions led to a very unsafe world
vis-a-vis russia. >> we have a problem. this goes back to the mid 1990 when we had an opportunity after the fall of the berlin wall to actually help invest in institutions regardless of whether or not boris yeltsin was a drunk and a bit of a crazy person. because we did not invest and help all the way back 25 years ago we created a circumstance where vladimir putin could thrive. this isn't something that will be fixed overnight but we cannot encourage putin and we cannot go against our allies. >> actions speak louder than words. our actions against russia speak loudly. >> one other point. president trump loves addressing problem from the obama administration. he loves taking on issues that happened under obama. why not russian meddling? >> he has taken on russia.
he has attacked russians on the ground in syria. hundreds of russian troops. >> i'm talking about hacking. he seems to say it happened under obama. all i can tell putin is not to deal with. >> the problem there is that the president did not want to credit a mueller indictment, which is what happened on friday. rod rosenstein came out knowing well the president would be meeting with putin and monday two days following that indictment and the president hated the fact that rod rosenstein and mueller were trying to direct his intentions vis-a-vis russia. that's why he reacted the way he did. >> sandra: one of the messages from democrats recently has been abolish ice. tucker carlson asked the president on the issue of immigration and how he responded. i want to get your take. >> president trump: democrats want open borders which is saying we want open borders, we want crime. >> why do you think they want that?
>> maybe a political philosophy they grew up with. maybe they learned it at school. maybe they are fools. i don't know. we have the worst immigration laws in the world. we don't have any law. we have an opposite to law. >> sandra: is there truth to that? >> it's a little bit of all and none of the above. there is this assumption that democrats want open borders because bringing in the latino and hispanic community and saying we want free and open borders and no rules with immigration will give us more voters in the 2020 election. many being roman catholics are skewed more toward the republican party and frankly any sort of call to abolish ice is stupid and short sighted as well. if you're concerned about the policies. >> sandra: your party hasn't gotten that message. >> they need to get it. >> would it be the kiss of death to appoint capri the head of the dnc here and nou. it
would be better for the democratic party if she was heading the democratic party instead of tom perez. they want to eliminate all borders essentially because that's what the only alternative to making the border stronger. it's the only alternative to what we now have and what we're struggling to do. i just agree with capri 100%. it's a terrible message to the country at this point as they see all the problems with sanctuary cities and everything else. >> not just a terrible message. is it constructive to be having this debate or is it a distraction from the real issue, separation of families on the border and true immigration problems? >> might get you some votes in california and new york. i don't know about the rest of america. shell by, david and capri.
>> sandra: lawmakers may tackle retirement plans as part of round two of tax reform. what this will mean for the future of your 401k. >> bill: the mlb all-star game last night. they went deep time and time again. but one person making his debut now apologizing for something he posted online, huh? what's that about? 24/7 crew is on deck. what about him?
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christina p. >> my last name is long. we'll try again next time. >> sandra: make him do it again. >> 401ks. tax reform 2.0 discussed yesterday on capitol hill there are three bills within there. the first one talking about retirement savings and improving that for middle class americans. they're proposing small employers should automatically enroll employees, one part of it. automatic. >> bill: you don't lose 10 years because you forgot to consider it or you didn't want the take the chance of losing more from your paycheck. >> when you are automatically enrolled it is more successful having to opt in. even businesses know that and why you have to opt out of newsletters and everything else. that's one of the things. they'll also offer disclosing monthly annuity income. they're applied to pension plans, an annual amount you get every single year and usually companies don't want to offer
that because what happens if they associate with an insurance company that goes bust and that company is held responsible. they encourage companies to get involved in that about improving the retirement savings plans for americans. if you look at some of the stats americans aren't doing well with savings. they said 65% of americans are saving little or close to nothing. another study from another bank -- >> sandra: a change in behavior is what goes into a lot of people have different takes why that is happening, whether or not there is a different mentality. what are the chances of something like this happening in an election year are? >> they want to get it put forward before mid-terms and you have three parts to the tax reform bill. i don't think all three bills will necessarily get approved right away because there is also the universal savings account they're trying to put forward as well and extending the individual tax cuts beyond
2025. that will get the most resistance especially within the senate. the retirement savings plan seems to be bipartisan support trying to encourage americans to save and that's really important for the future of the american economy. the other two points or not even just the individual tax cut because of the ballooning deficit, those arguments are why you may not see that go through. >> sandra: because it's hard to keep track of. these incentives, retirement and savings incentives is one of three of the bills in tax reform 2.0 package according to kevin brady. trying to keep track of all that is a lot. another topic. that is google and the e.u. e.u. suing google a lot of money. >> $5 billion u.s. it's a fine because they have pretty much come to the conclusion that google has taken advantage of customers in europe by purposely forcing smartphone makers to put google
operating systems, android systems on the phone going as far as paying some smartphone makers to put certain apps like chrome and the play app on the phone so when you are sifting through their phone you're using a google interface. if you don't want to use that you have to go on your phone and opt out like we were discussing and switch to another. google has the full monopoly over the market and there are two sides to the story in the sense that some -- the business side is that oh, they're going after a big company that worked hard to make a lot of money fining them $5 billion that they can make back in 16 days according to the "wall street journal." this is based off of their 2017 revenue. you have a business that has worked hard, grown, huge monopoly over the market but at the same time you have people like you and i that aren't realizing our data is being shared. that we're being shifted towards google products or google shopping sites as opposed to other sites. it makes it a little more
difficult for the smaller players to come in. that's the side where i feel like i understand why they're fining. >> sandra: if you want to find out more about the story google it, right? it is still just -- we do it. >> bill: $5 in trading. >> this is the cost of doing business for them. >> sandra: christina, thank you for being here. bill will get your last name. promise it. facebook is owning up to a mistake. why they are apologizing for censoring a pro-trump group and a capitol hearing with social media companies got political real fast. >> we have hate speech against conservatives up there and allowed to stay up until we have to make contact after contact. insurance that won't replace the full value of your new car? you'd be better off throwing your money right into the harbor. i'm gonna regret that.
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>> sandra: lawmakers are demanding better responsibilities from social media companies. executives from facebook, twitter, google, the giants testifying on capitol hill yesterday facing questions over bias and censorship and the hearing did get heated. 24/7 crew is here. brett. what happened? >> this is, i think, congress is very frustrated with a lot of these technology companies.
we talked about this yesterday, the need for more transparency yet protecting their secrets and algorithms, their business model and trade secret and they have a right to protect that bet a level with transparency. diamond and silk the executive saying we made a mistake and apologized. >> sandra: are these companies getting pressure from both sides of the aisle or just gop lawmakers >> they are getting pressure from both sides of the aisle and getting it from the gop and democrats and they honestly should be getting some pressure from that and i was hopefully we would see more of this after mark zuckerberg and some clarification about the end user license agreements we all agree to when we sign up to the sites that explain what a lot of this stuff will work and how it will happen. but it is still in the legal language that none of us understand. >> what happened yesterday was the social media companies
apologized to diamond and silk, marsha blackburn but also said that these were isolated incidents and political bias does not play a part in their decision making. they are saying overall they're trying to do a good job and these are just situations that tend to happen. they did face some serious questions from democrats as well over why they haven't removed some right wing conspiracy theory websites as well. these social media companies make major mistakes but they are in this really tricky position where they have to walk a fine line between preserving free speech and removing hate speech. it's a difficult place to be. >> interesting you mention hate and removing tweets or being careful because sometimes it's not the company but the user who gets in trouble on social media. segueing into what happened at the all-star game last night. great baseball game, 10 innings, 10 home runs. american league wins for the sixth year in a row. josh hader from the brewers was
not his biggest moment. his phone blew up because tweets he sent out seven years ago surfaced last night. where he uses the n word. he makes gay slurs, sexist comments. he spoke about it after the game and he owned it. listen. >> i was immature and -- that doesn't reflect on who i am as a person today. you just tweet what is on your mind and there is no excuse for what was said and i'm deeply sorry. >> 17 years old he talks about himself as a kid, as a child. when i was 17 and i think you would say the same, the last thing you want to be thought of is as a child. it's a convenient argument but opens the door. millennials who lived through this period with social media now you have a career that could pay the price. >> we have to remember we're
all media people. you don't have that when you are 17. you stand up in class and say whatever you want. when we were all teenagers there was no -- >> it wasn't acceptable for us -- >> where did these people grow up? in an environment where they weren't exposed to differences of opinion? people's opinions change when they meet other types of people in the world maybe i had this wrong. maybe my group of friends was wrong about this? >> a major lesson. you have to be very careful about what you say. >> sandra: i apologized. >> lorenzo cain says i'm okay with it. great guy and great teammate and this isn't who he is. >> sandra: meanwhile do we have a few seconds left? twitter purging how many accounts? >> that's right. >> it's real, it's on twitter. >> bill: like bob dylan. it must be true, i read it in a
newspaper. now it's it must be true, i saw it online. >> they face criticism and they're really trying to do the best they can with -- they created the monster they're trying to control. >> bill: katie peary lost 3 million. >> president lost 340,000. katy perry has the most followers of anyone. >> she is a fire work on twitter. >> bill: it's fake news. thank you. at -- we're at the white house coming up. don't miss a moment. ♪
>> sandra: it is 11:00 a.m. on the east coast and this is a fox news alert as we await the president's cabinet meeting beginning 30 minutes from now amid new reaction to his clarification on russia election meddling comments that he made during that summit with putin. welcome to a brand-new hour of "america's newsroom," i'm sandra smith. >> bill: i'm bill hemmer 9:00 to noon. three hours. the statement coming yesterday president saying he misspoke after sparking a firestorm of criticism saying that he has full faith in u.s. intel agencies and some of his critics claim it's too little too late. you can't forget the policies with actions against russia. senator marco rubio making the case last hour.
>> i wish what he said yesterday it would have been said in helsinki. we wouldn't have thought he was siding with putin against the u.s. intelligence community but it is also important to point to policies. this president has provided and this administration has provided lethal weapons to ukraine to protect itself from russia. imposed sanctions that in many cases go beyond what congress asked for. so the actions have been strong. >> bill: fox coverage this hour, marc thiessen joins us with reaction. we begin at the white house peter doocy. good morning. officials still talking about helsinki. what is expected today or what are you hearing today, peter? >> hearing that white house officials think the putin meeting was productive because there was a lot more to it than just the press conference that everybody has been talking about and at the white house they think there are much more important things on the horizon than continuous 2016 talk.
>> why aren't you having everything that -- this is much more than election meddling. >> we have more details what the white house meetings when they say they thought the putin meeting was productive. while the nato meeting was a triumph with billions of dollars being put up by member countries at a faster pace the meeting with russia may prove in the long run to be a greater success. russia agreed to help with north korea and the process is moving along. there is no rush. the sanctions remain. big benefits and exciting future for north korea at end of process. and the separate is pushing back on critics with this. some people hate the fact that i got along well with president putin of russia. they would rather go to war than see this. it is called trump derangement syndrome. yesterday was all about the president trying to clarify that he does not side with
putin over u.s. intel agencies. today is more about shifting attention to other things that the two men talked about. >> bill: how is he trying to smooth things over with the intel community now? >> by drawing a line today between officials in the intel community who brief him and he says he has confidence in, and some intel officials who served president obama who he does not have such confidence in, including the former c.i.a. director. >> president trump: i think brennan is a very bad guy. if you look at it a lot of things happened under his watch. he is a very bad person. >> the next few hours busy at the white house. 30 minutes from now a cabinet meeting kicks off and at 2:00 sarah sanders takes reporters' questions in the briefing room. >> bill: thank you, peter. >> sandra: president trump seems to have something in common with his predecessor when it comes to vladimir putin both coming under fire for trying to turn over a new leaf with russia. from the obama era reset button to the current controversy my next guest writing an op-ed in
the "washington post" called trump isn't the first president to embarrass himself by cozying up to putin. marc thiessen joins us now. what did you write in that piece, marc? >> president trump is not the first president who has the delusion he could get along with vladimir putin. my old boss george w. bush promised to end the rivalry of the cold war and at his first summit said i looked into putin's eyes and got a sense of his soul. barack obama did something far worse. when barack obama came into office in order to appease vladimir putin he canceled a missile defense deal with poland and the czech republic. they took a big risk signing up with the united states and he threw them under the bus on the 70th anniversary of the soviet invasion of poland. it was like a second betrayal. and hillary clinton, of course, as his secretary of state had
that embarrassing moment where she gave her russian counterpart a giant reset button with the word reset misspelled in russian. everybody has tried to find a way to reset and get along and the results have been terrible. vladimir putin invaded georgia, invaded ukraine, shot down an airplane, violated the inf treaty. violated the chemical weapons convention. sent troops to syria. he has been a bad actor despite all of these efforts. so donald trump is going to learn i think pretty quickly that vladimir putin isn't a competitor, he is an enemy and will continue to behave that way no matter what he tries to accomplish in a summit meeting. >> sandra: have president trump's policies -- has his policy with russia been an improvement so far at least over president barack obama? >> dramatic improvement. that press conference was cringe worthy.
if you look at the policies versus the rhetoric what president trump is doing it's positive. as marco rubio pointed out he gave $47 million in military aid to ukraine. obama refused to do that. kicked out 60 russian diplomats over the use of chemical weapons in britain. a violation of their obligations under the chemical weapons treaty that just killed a british citizen. russia launched a chemical attack that killed a british citizen on british soil. insane. trump punished them for that. he increased sanctions on russia for the election and violations of the inf treaty and arming the taliban and some other things they're doing. his policies are a dramatic improvement. and quite frankly everyone was criticizing trump for beating up the nato allies. he got them to cough up more
money for defense. if he was trying to get more pro russian policies from the white house elections, it blew up. >> sandra: the white house is pungt up they largely see the meeting with putin as productive and moving forward the president says this in a couple different tweets. so many people at the higher ends of intelligence loved my press conference performance in helsinki. we discussed many important subjects at our earlier meeting and got along well which bothered many haters who many people loved my press conference. we did that. he ends this by saying big results will come. the president is promising big results. how will success be measured after this summit has now taken place? >> well, success will be measured by russian action. if he can succeed where both george w. bush and barack obama and hillary clinton failed before him and get russia to
cease its aggressive actions against nato allies, it's actions in syria and other places around the world. again, it's not just -- this is completely overlooked during the summit but just a week ago a british citizen died in a russian chemical weapons attack in britain. they are violating the chemical weapons convention where they ceremoniously announced six months ago they destroyed all their chemical weapons but then they used a chemical weapon an british soil. if trump is looking to do an arms control treaty with these people they need to stop violating the imf treaty and they just violated the chemical weapons convention. if he can get them to stop doing that and start living by their current treaty agreements it would be an accomplishment. not signing new treaties with russia. >> sandra: here we are halfway through the week. we'll continue to see where it
all goes. you're writing about it and had you on this morning and we're glad we did. thank you. >> bill: reminder to our viewers we expect a pool spray to bring the cameras in the room and see what the president has to say with his cabinet meeting getting underway this hour from the white house. stay tuned. fox news alert. 29-year-old russian citizen making her first court appearance today. federal agents accusing her of being a russian spy charging her with conspiring against the u.s. jennifer griffin watching it from the pentagon. >> we have learned the f.b.i. began tailing the alleged russian spy not long after she moved to the united states three months before the presidential election. but her efforts to infiltrate top levels of the republican establishment including the nra, cpac and national prayer breakfast have been underway for the past four years.
she entered the u.s. to study. she koz edoka up to republican circles and went to nra events. she hosted american gun enthusiasts in russia. one delegation included milwaukee sheriff dave clark and began a romantic relationship with a gop operative. in september 2016 she sent an email obtained by the f.b.i. quote, we have only two is the an advisor team on russia for a new president. in a series of direct messages via twitter to her russian handler on election night quote, i'm going to sleep. it is 3:00 a.m. here. i'm ready for further orders. she was arrested sunday. her lawyer said in a statement, quote, maria is not an agent of the russian federation. she has offered repeatedly to answer any questions the department of justice has. in 2015 she flew to las vegas
to ask then candidate donald trump a question. >> i am visiting from russia. so my question -- >> good friend of obama, putin. >> my question will be about foreign politics. if you were elected as a president what will be your foreign poll particular especially in relationship with my country? >> president trump: i believe i would get along very nicely with putin. >> she appears in a federal court in a few hours here in washington, d.c. accused of working for a putin ally sanctioned by the government earlier this year. >> sandra: the owner of the mandalay bay hotel filing suit in the wake of the most deadly mass shooting in modern u.s. history. [screaming and gunfire] >> sandra: why mgm resorts is now suing victims of that massacre. >> fired f.b.i. director james
comey with a message for voters in the mid-term in november. alan dershowitz will be weighing in and why mueller might be offering immunity. >> sandra: the president firing back after former c.i.a. director jim brennan calls trump's news conference with vladimir putin treasonous, bret baier joins us live just ahead. >> it's an insult to everything about our government to have a former head of the c.i.a. calling the president treasonous just because he doesn't like him.
>> sandra: former f.b.i. director james comey is sending a strong message on twitter. the long-time republican urging americans to vote for democrats in the mid-term elections. meanwhile robert mueller's team wants a federal judge to grant immunity to five witnesses who might testify in the trial for former trump campaign chairman paul manafort. let's talk about all this with alan dershowitz the author of the new book "the case against impeaching trump" and harvard law professor. thanks for coming back on the program this morning. first of all mueller seeking immunity for five witnesses in the paul manafort trial. what's that all about? >> first of all this whole man fort case demonstrates there was never a need for a special counsel. manafort has been indicted for
matters unrelated to the russia probe. tax, bank issues. any u.s. attorney anywhere in the country could have done this and granting immunity. a normal u.s. attorney wouldn't grant so much immunity for such a small fry defendant. it really shows that what is going on here is they are targeting the president. they are targeting the people around him and using manafort, as judge ellis found, they're trying not only to make him sing but make him compose possibly. and putting all the pressure they can on him. he is a means toward the end. that's just not the way justice should operate. civil libertarians have long been opposed to that method of squeezing witnesses indicting them for unrelated crimes and then trying to get them to testify against more important people. as i used to teach my first year criminal law students if you commit a crime in america always commit a crime with someone more important than you are so you can flip on you and
they can't flip on you. that's what's going on here. >> sandra: what are the actions on the part of the government? what does it tell us where this is going mueller seeking immunity of these five people? >> well, a special counsel has to produce results. unlike a normal u.s. attorney. if a normal u.s. attorney investigates a case and there is nothing there it goes away. if a special counsel is appointed and given lots of money and a large stuff and comes up with nothing he failed. he is searching and searching trying to get low-hanging fruit and using the power of the office to make sure they can squeeze him so perhaps he can testify against someone more important. if manafort doesn't testify, he will go to jail and he will go to jail for something he never would have gone to jail for had there not be a special counsel. if he does testify, we'll have to wait and see what he says and whether he has anything on anybody more important.
the fear is not only will he sing, but he might compose. that is he might make things up or exaggerate. witnesses like this understand that the better the story, the better the deal. they sometimes try to improve their stories and go beyond the bare truth. >> sandra: i have to ask you about the former f.b.i. director james comey saying vote for democrats in the fall. he tweeted this out. this republican congress has proven incapable of fulfilling the founders' design that ambition must counteract ambition. all who believe in this country's values must vote for democrats this fall. policy differences don't matter right now. history has its eyes on us. what did you think when you saw that? >> well, comey is a private citizen now. as a private citizen he is entitled to vote for and urge other people to vote for anybody but it really discloses something important. people in defense of comey,
mueller, rosenstein say they're all republicans. they're all republicans. but it is centrist republicans that hate trump the most and a lot of the effort to try to get trump has been done by republicans or in mueller's case ex-republicans. don't let anybody be fooled by the notion that just because these are republicans it doesn't show that it's a fair process. you have to judge for yourself whether it's a fair process. but the fact that republicans are behind it, republicans like mueller who switched to become democrats, it demonstrates that this is not about whether or not it's a republican is going after them or a democrat. you have to judge the process by its inherent fairness, for me there have been a lot of unfair aspects of this process and as a civil libertarian i'll continue to talk about that. >> sandra: it was back in may of 2017 that comey said he was leaving the republican party because of the president and he said the republican party has left me and many others. i think they've lost their way and i can't be associated with
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out of it as the president is now still just hours back from that helsinki/putin summit. and the president walking back some of his remarks there from the presser. so anything that comes out of this we'll be watching for this and we'll bring it to you when we get it. >> bill: company that owns the casino of the worst massacre in american history is now taking to court some people you would not expect. the mgm resorts suing 1,000 victims of the las vegas shooting. william la jeunesse running down this story in the west coast newsroom. that's the story here, william? >> when we first heard about this it made no sense. why would the hotel sue the victims? it is all about legal strategy and where the case is ultimately heard. ist is not about assigning blame to the victims or taking their money. there is imagine or p.r. blowback now that claims 1,000 or so victims are entitled to
nothing after gunman stephen paddock entered the mgm hotel with fire power and killed 58 victims. the company says a federal law known as the safety act precludes any finding of liability for any claim for injuries related to paddock's mass attack and the plaintiffs have no liability of any kind to the defendants. lawyers for the victims disagree. >> they have no interest whatsoever in the victims. what their number one and only priority is, their money. >> mgm claims because the concert security vendor was certified by the department of homeland security against terrorism or acts of mass destruction that it has no liability. but the victims' lawyers say no, the f.b.i., not the sheriff, ever classified this
as terrorism. therefore the law does not apply and mgm is not entitled to immunity. the bottom line mgm is protecting its bottom line to get the claims dismissed in federal court. otherwise they face hundreds of cases in state court claim it was grossly negligent in providing security that resulted in fatalities and injuries in which they would be liable that would cost them a lot of poker chips. >> sandra: we're minutes away from the president's cabinet meeting. that meeting coming on the heels of the controversy over his summit with vladimir putin. we're expecting to get video playback of that any moment now and we'll bring it to you as soon as it happens. >> bill: also the president taking on former c.i.a. director john brennan after he called president trump's actions of the summit nothing short of treasonous, high
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>> bill: there is a cabinet meeting just getting underway with the president and his administrations at the white house. we're told the pool camera just went inside. what that means is the meeting is underway, just beginning at the top of the meeting. the cameras will come inside and the president usually has some sort of commentary or message for the day and then he says you guys run along for now. we don't know what will come of this meeting. we don't know how long it will last or what the tape play-out will be available. we're watching it now and bring it to you. the old tape routine, that the right. i'm showing my age or youthful inexperience.
>> sandra: in all seriousness it will be a really important moment to hear from the president because reaction continues to pour in from around the country and around the world to that summit with the russian president. so what will the president say and this is also a short time after he decided to publicly walk back some of those remarks that he did make on that stage in helsinki. >> bill: clearly they did not enjoy the ride home or the reaction they were getting because they felt compelled to change it yesterday. will there be more to that? will there be some sort of further advancement of the arguments yesterday? we'll wait and see. that meeting is just getting started. >> sandra: all right. >> president trump: ice goes in and they get them out. they put them in jail or they throw them out of the country and they don't think about it. now there is move on to get rid of ice because ice is tough. if you don't have tough people doing that job you'll have
crime like you've never seen it. >> sandra: president trump blasting dems wanting to abolish ice. the house is preparing to vote on a resolution to support ice after a growing number of democrats called to abolish the agency. let's bring in texas congressman mike mccaul chairman of the home security committee. you have strong thoughts on this, mr. chairman. what do you think about this cry from democrats? >> it's a very reckless, dangerous policy to abolish an agency created after 9/11 to protect americans from dangerous people, criminals, drug dealers, potential terrorists. the secretary told me they stop on average about 10 terrorists a day that try to get into the united states. known or suspected terrorists. and i just think it is very irresponsible. it's a political move on their part and we are going to put this bill on the floor today and we'll see who votes to support ice and who doesn't. >> sandra: what do you expect to come of that? >> i don't know.
i'm hearing some rumors that they may vote present. not exactly a profile in courage. ice does a lot more than what you see down on the border now with the unaccompanied minor children. they stop a lot of bad things from coming into the united states including fentanyl and opioids. when i was a federal prosecutor after 9/11 we used the immigration laws to get suspected terrorists out of the country because sometimes you can't charge providing material support for terrorism. again, i think it's a misinformed, uneducated, irresponsible move. >> sandra: the latest that we're hearing is that the house republican leaders will not hold this quick vote on the democratic bill that calls on abolishing immigration and customs enforcement and instead
offering a non-binding gop measure, a resolution instead of the democratic legislation. you aren't exactly sure why or if that's happening. >> well, i think that's an option that leadership has possibly down the road is to put the democrat bill on the floor as well. this is, sandra, so important to mention that my bill to authorize ice for the first time into law passed last year overwhelmingly with nearly every democrat voting for it, including nancy pelosi and the author now of the bill to abolish ice. less than a year ago they were all in favor of ice and voted to authorize it into law. this is a complete hypocrisy and it's pure politics. >> sandra: you're republican colleague in the senate marco rubio didn't mince words what he thought about calls to abolish ice. >> it's a radical and dumb idea
rejected by the vast majority of americans. people can disagree about immigration policy. immigration policy has to be enforced. ice is -- if you don't like the laws, our immigration laws, we need them, we're a sovereign nation, change the law. but they're law enforcers. >> sandra: it will be interesting to see where everybody stands on this ultimately if we do. >> marco is right. 70% of the american people favor ice as a law enforcement agency stopping bad things and people coming into the country. otherwise it's lawlessness. and i think this is going to blow back on the democrats. i don't think the majority of the american people are with them on this one. >> sandra: meanwhile we have the live shot in the corner of the screen here that we're awaiting anything that we can possibly see or hear out of the president's cabinet meeting underway. it began half past the hour in the white house. just days following the
president's controversial words on that stage standing next to vladimir putin in helsinki. could i get your thoughts as we await to hear the president? >> well, i'm glad the president retracted or sort of corrected his statements about our intelligence community. i got briefed on the russian interference in our elections in october of 2016 before the election. i called upon then the obama administration to call out russia for what they were doing. that we had to have consequences. i also have briefed this president on this issue. to me it's clear and convincing evidence in the intelligence community that russia did interfere or attempted to in our elections. in a democracy, that really cannot stand. sandra, that's why we passed the sanctions against russia because of their aggression in crimea and ukraine but also their efforts to meddle in our elections in 2016 presidential. what i worry about is going
into the mid-term elections we're seeing some intelligence that they may try to do this again. >> sandra: what would you like to hear from the president if we hear him speak a few minutes from now? >> i think to again vindicate our intelligence community's assessment on this. and to take a tough position against russia as they are not our friend. they are our foreign adversary and they attack us every day and they're getting very aggressive with submarine warfare capabilities. the one area where russia -- we could work together is trying to resolve this conflict in syria, which has created one of the greatest humanitarian crises we've seen in a generation. and a lot of problems with isis and terrorism. that's one area i think we can work together. >> sandra: so it sounds like you would like to hear the president again say that he backs up the intelligence community and their findings on russian meddling in our elections and you would like to hear the president be tough on
russia. is this president tough enough on russia as far as you see and from your perspective? >> well, i do think the sanctions are tough. i think the actions are tough. the rhetoric doesn't seem to match the actions. and i would like -- i understand he wants to have a good relationship but let's be clear eyed about who we are dealing with. a former kgb officer who has been very aggressive globally, used cyber operations to hurt the west and europe. and i think it's important that he also reaffirm our position with nato. that nato is an important ally, institution, created after world war ii as a buffer to the soviet union. we have to know who our enemies and friends and allies are. i think it's important that any president make that clear. >> sandra: great to have you on and we're awaiting the president holding his cabinet meeting in the white house now.
chairman michael mccaul. thank you, nice to see you this morning. >> bill: the deadline to reunite separated families eight days from now july 26. federal officials have not been able to find the parents of 71 children who may have been separated from their mother and father. do we know how many children have been united so far? >> numbers have been difficult frankly since covering this story from the beginning to get from hhs. according to court documents, that's how we know those numbers that some 2500 kids, again ages 5 to 17, all but 71 have a parental match. in terms of how many have been reunified we simply don't know at this point. the reunification does occur at an ice facility. we can tell you that. humanitarian groups get to work. this is the en nunsiation house
in el paso one of four locations in the country identified by the government to assist the families once they are released from ice custody. >> we're expecting immediately six more families. the pace of releases will increase dramatically in the next couple of days to where we may be looking at as many as 100 individuals, 50 families per day that will come to us. >> the same is happening at this catholic charities facility in mcallen, texas, on the other side of the texas/mexico border. hundreds of volunteers working around the clock ahead of next thursday's court ordered deadline when all kids are supposed to be back with their families. >> bill: where are the things on the various lawsuits that challenge the zero tolerance policy. >> a federal judge halted deportations of migrant
families once the reunion has occurred. this at the request of the american civil liberties union. the aclu filing something in court saying that there are persistent rumors that mass deportations will be carried out imminently and that they would be carried out immediately upon reunification. the judge imposed a one-week delay of those deportations. the d.o.j. lawyer opposing the delay but did not address those specific rumors in court. so again a whole lot of various components of the law being challenged as it makes its way through the courts, bill. >> bill: thank you, casey stiegel in dallas today. >> sandra: well, at this moment the president is holding his first cabinet meeting at the white house since that controversial summit with vladimir putin. the press pool in the room with them now and we should get a tape play back from that meeting at any moment. when we do we'll bring it to you. >> bill: former c.i.a. director
>> bill: as we mentioned waiting to see what happens inside the cabinet meeting that's underway. the cameras went in a short time ago and see how long the president talks and what he has to say. as we await that bret baier anchor of special report with me now. almost noon eastern time here in washington, d.c. what are you picking up from last night into today coming off that statement from yesterday would not as opposed to would in helsinki? >> the walk back was tough clearly. and the president, i don't think, wanted to do it but secretary pompeo and vice president pence were instrumental in getting him to do it. but after it was done, i think there is a feeling of moving forward. that's what they want to do at the white house.
you saw kellyanne conway defending the president this morning and i think you'll see again here in this cabinet meeting kind of trying to get stride again after what was, you know, a cleanup of a p.r. problem. >> bill: i'm holding my hands what the white house put out yesterday. may of 2017 president signed an executive order about cybersecurity to keep our infrastructure safe to the heart of russian meddling. he ordered the expulsion of 60 russian intelligence officers and others. by the way, this statement goes on for pages. just a few highlights. that is their position now as they try to push back. i want to play you a clip from last night. here is tucker carlson in an interview about how the president is trying to be tough on putin and also thread the needle of cooperation to get
something out of him or advance this relationship somehow. watch. >> president trump: i'm not pro-russia, pro-anybody. i want to have this country be safe. i don't want nuclear weapons even people thinking about it. russia and the united states control 90% of the nuclear weapons in the world and getting along with russia and not only for that reason. that's a good thing. >> bill: what about that, bret? >> you have north korea, syria, iran in syria, you have iran threatening a lawsuit against the u.s. about the iran nuclear deal. you have a lot of places that russia plays a part. i still think, you know, there is legitimate criticism about his performance in that news conference and that he wouldn't have walked it back if everything was okay. i think when you look at former c.i.a. director john brennan talking about treason, you've got other people coming out
bremmer political scientists saying treason can only be committed against the enemy of the united states defined clearly when the u.s. is in a declared open war unless the u.s. declares war on russia you can't commit treason so stop with all the treason talk. you are getting pushback on some of the really aggressive comments post news conference. >> bill: i had mid-term elections on my mind when i was in helsinki just gauging reaction. i think the reaction from the left was predictable. they don't like this president and he will never win a lot of people over in new york city or washington, d.c. but it was the reaction on the right from the middle of the country and if the right came at him that way what are the people in the middle thinking? you've got time before early november. you don't have a ton of time. i wonder how much of that is on their mind now? >> that's right. i think that we're going to see in polling and going to see in
outreach if something tangible comes from the meeting, the one-on-one and they can kind of definitively say this is a result of the meeting and why i didn't go out and really hit him over the head on election meddling, maybe that's going to blunt it a little bit. but the news conference itself caused the problem that clearly had to be cleaned up. >> bill: thank you, bret. we're getting a bit of a read-out. an indication we'll see it on camera real soon. see you soon. >> sandra: the soccer team who spent two weeks trapped in a thailand cave is speaking out. hear what they are saying today and how they are doing now that they are back above ground. >> thank you very much for the support from all of the world. to have our children here, thank you. in-laws were coming, a little bit of water, it really- it rocked our world. i had no idea
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>> bill: the cabinet meeting. a bit of a read-out at our folks at the white house. the president finished saying made incredible progress. meetings at nato a tremendous success, economy is booming and training the workforce, vocational education, training people and making sure folks are up to speed to get jobs and be employable. the meeting is ongoing. more in a moment. we're trying to figure out if there is any more reference to helsinki. he is sitting next to secretary of state mike pompeo, also deputy secretary of defense shanahan. when it becomes available we'll roll it out. stand by. >> sandra: well, that thai soccer team sharing their story of survival. they were stuck in a cave for
two weeks. this morning they're talking about what it was like. benjamin hall following the story from our london bureau. what condition are the boys in? >> quite amazing to see them today seven days after they came out of that cave having spent 18 days underground they were running about kicking foot balls before the press conference began. clearly a real change and doctors very happy with their progress. they began by talking about how they got stuck. they had actually been in that situation before in that cave with rising water but decided to go in everywhere. the water started blocking the entrance they realized they were in trouble. one of the boys describing that moment through the voice of a translator. >> i was thinking oh, we would be able to get out, i calmed down and i did not feel frightened. i told everyone be courage. do not lose hope.
>> they survived on a little bit of water but no food and sadly they referenced the navy seal who died trying to save them. they felt responsible for his dealt. they were thrilled to be out and take life with a new meaning from now on. >> sandra: benjamin hall, thank you. >> bill: another alert watching the meeting. we'll see that in a moment. expecting playback momentarily. a quick break here. back in a moment. let's take a look at some numbers:
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>> i have never taken a trip where i been stopped by securit three times. in three different places. >> what happened? ege i don't know. helsinki, they pulled me aside, held back in amsterdam said the went through everything. got back to jfk they ran the passport again. i said what's going on? >> what was the answer? >> they didn't have a good one. they said it's your lucky day.
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